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- 0:27Speaker 1: Here's a bold prediction from Mike Ferguson.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Legend Bay throws a forward pass.
- 0:36Speaker 3: If you're ever going to do it, This would be
- 0:38Speaker 3: an interesting game to do, but I don't think you're
- 0:40Speaker 3: going to... If you want to go crazy and just
- 0:44Speaker 3: swing for the fences, do it with your quarterback. Not
- 0:47Speaker 3: Legend Bay. But that would be a three-point bowl prediction. Juck,
- 0:53Speaker 3: are we going to see it?
- 0:54Speaker 4: Massive, massive stones if we see that, my man. I'm
- 0:58Speaker 4: going to go with no, but boy, if we did,
- 1:00Speaker 4: that would be unbelievable. We have no idea if this
- 1:04Speaker 4: is a good red zone team.
- 1:06Speaker 3: So... Wouldn't that be like a little jet sweep action
- 1:11Speaker 3: with him throwing the ball to, say, Bennett Christian or
- 1:14Speaker 3: somebody breaking into the end zone?
- 1:16Speaker 5: Like, is that an easy touchdown? That's a two-point conversion play,
- 1:21Speaker 5: I think. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's a good two-point conversion.
- 1:26Speaker 5: Call it the 40 special?
- 1:30Speaker 2: For the 40 acres?
- 1:31Speaker 3: No, because he's from 40, North Forney.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Oh, Forney. Oh, I thought you said Forty.
- 1:36Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Yeah. Not bad. Not your best work, but.
- 1:42Speaker 3: That's the best compliment you've ever given me.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Mateo and Fuego, how sweet a third win in a
- 1:48Speaker 1: row against Texas would feel.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Enjoy your time there, gents. Thanks for the coverage.
- 1:52Speaker 1: That's been a big topic of conversation this week, the
- 1:54Speaker 1: fact that this is not only the third year in
- 1:59Speaker 1: a row when Ohio State's playing Texas, which is bizarre
- 2:02Speaker 1: to think Ohio State's played.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Outside of Michigan... maybe that's it.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Texas, but no, no, but in terms of like the
- 2:10Speaker 1: last three years, I don't know that three in a row, right?
- 2:12Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I've touched with the last three years, 24, 25, 26.
- 2:15Speaker 1: I guess they played Oregon twice, two years ago. And
- 2:19Speaker 1: then they're going to play them again this year. So
- 2:21Speaker 1: Michigan and Oregon, they will have played three years in
- 2:24Speaker 1: a row.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Maybe Indiana.
- 2:26Speaker 1: They played Indiana twice, right? Or once last year, once
- 2:30Speaker 1: the year before, and they play them this year. So yeah,
- 2:33Speaker 1: But outside of a couple Big Ten teams, Texas is
- 2:37Speaker 1: basically a Big Ten team for Ohio State's purposes. The
- 2:40Speaker 1: fact that they could beat them three in a row, that.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Would be really.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Psychically damaging, I think, to the Texas Longhorns, where this
- 2:51Speaker 1: is a year where they've put a lot of resources
- 2:53Speaker 1: into this team, and it feels like this is a
- 2:55Speaker 1: hump that they have to get over.
- 2:57Speaker 4: It's also coincided with the resurrection of the program. The
- 3:02Speaker 4: first couple of matchups were when they were on top
- 3:04Speaker 4: of the world. And now they're back on top, a
- 3:07Speaker 4: couple of semifinals. And for Ohio State to be able
- 3:10Speaker 4: to beat them this year with their best squad they've
- 3:13Speaker 4: put together, with all the, I mean, the weight of
- 3:16Speaker 4: the world feels like it's on Sarkeesian.
- 3:18Speaker 2: He looks gaunt.
- 3:19Speaker 4: He's lost weight. He's not a chubby guy, but he
- 3:21Speaker 4: looks even skinnier. It feels like some serious pressure on them.
- 3:26Speaker 4: And if I'm a Texas fan, coming away, losing this
- 3:29Speaker 4: one again, at home, at night, with everything that they
- 3:33Speaker 4: gave him, which was everything that he asked for in
- 3:36Speaker 4: recruiting in the portal. I mean, everything that he asked for, loaded.
- 3:40Speaker 4: They're the ones this year, you know, we talk about
- 3:42Speaker 4: the games. The game last year, the advantages Ohio State
- 3:45Speaker 4: had with the super elite talent and not having seen
- 3:49Speaker 4: Matt Patricia, the home field advantage. Texas has all of
- 3:52Speaker 4: those this year. There's really no excuse for them not
- 3:55Speaker 4: to pull out a win in this game. And it
- 3:58Speaker 4: would be very devastating to that program, I think. And
- 4:01Speaker 4: it really could spiral because they got one heck of
- 4:03Speaker 4: a schedule. Last year with Arvel Reese, you knew a
- 4:06Speaker 4: little bit about him. But everybody knew about him after
- 4:09Speaker 4: that game. And the draft people loved him. And Arch
- 4:12Speaker 4: Manning got to know him very, very well. Raheem Biles
- 4:16Speaker 4: has an opportunity to do that. The college football people
- 4:18Speaker 4: know him, but the regular people watching are going to
- 4:20Speaker 4: be like, who the heck is this guy?
- 4:22Speaker 3: Possibly. Especially him and Colin Simmons. Being together, maybe working
- 4:27Speaker 3: off of each other could be the difference, I think,
- 4:31Speaker 3: in this game, even though we've made our picks.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to those later. It's interesting, though.
- 4:39Speaker 1: It feels like you've had linebackers become stars in this game.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I mean, that was kind of one of the A.J.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Hawk games in 2005. It was James Laurinaitis in 2006.
- 4:47Speaker 1: It was Arvel Reese last year, so... Does this become,
- 4:54Speaker 1: is it Raheem Biles, or is this the Christian Allegro game,
- 4:58Speaker 1: or is this the T.J. Alford game, or the Peyton
- 5:01Speaker 1: Pierce game, whatever?
- 5:02Speaker 3: Your Andrew Swetner ratio from 2008 is horrific.
- 5:07Speaker 2: I'm talking about regular season games. They're just focused on
- 5:09Speaker 2: the regular season.
- 5:10Speaker 3: That's the fun thing about this one. It's this early
- 5:12Speaker 3: in the season. There's the opportunity for somebody to be
- 5:15Speaker 3: that guy that just blows up and everybody knows and
- 5:19Speaker 3: I'm wondering, you guys can throw your thoughts in the comments.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Who do you think that could be or who do
- 5:23Speaker 3: you think it will be? I'm guessing it's a very
- 5:25Speaker 3: confident Ohio State fan base right now in the chat.
- 5:29Speaker 3: So who do you think is going to be out
- 5:31Speaker 3: of the blue a little bit and become that guy?
- 5:35Speaker 3: Would it shock you if it's T.J.
- 5:36Speaker 4: Alford?
- 5:36Speaker 3: Would it shock you if it's Riley Pennyjohn? We saw T.J.
- 5:38Speaker 3: Alford was the defensive player of the game last week.
- 5:41Speaker 3: I think it would be good for Ohio State if
- 5:42Speaker 3: it's Peyton Pierce just to get that thing going.
- 5:45Speaker 2: And I've seen some Texas fans in the chat as well.
- 5:49Speaker 2: who do we not know about? Who are we not
- 5:51Speaker 2: talking about?
- 5:53Speaker 1: Who are we not talking about now that we're going
- 5:55Speaker 1: to be talking about on our post-game show Saturday night
- 5:58Speaker 1: one way or another?
- 5:58Speaker 2: Because, you know, I feel like we've watched the first game.
- 6:03Speaker 1: We have a decent sense for who the, you know,
- 6:06Speaker 1: key players to know are.
- 6:08Speaker 2: But sometimes there's, you know, hey, Jacoby Jackson.
- 6:11Speaker 1: We weren't talking about Jacoby Jackson much before the Ball
- 6:14Speaker 1: State game. And then, boom, Jacoby Jackson puts together a
- 6:16Speaker 1: really nice day for Ohio State. We got a super
- 6:19Speaker 1: chat from Mike Farino.
- 6:20Speaker 2: How's it going?
- 6:20Speaker 1: I feel weirdly confident in this game. I'm normally worried
- 6:23Speaker 1: about these matchup games, but I just feel really, really confident.
- 6:26Speaker 1: And it's not like I don't see a path to
- 6:28Speaker 1: Texas winning. Just don't think it will happen.
- 6:31Speaker 3: What do you guys think that confidence is? Is it
- 6:33Speaker 3: for me? The reason I think Ohio state has a
- 6:35Speaker 3: really good chance is Julian saying how much of it
- 6:38Speaker 3: is also Sark having trouble in these games, kind of
- 6:42Speaker 3: like Dabo or whatever, where it's just like, until they
- 6:44Speaker 3: do it, I'm just going to assume that it's not
- 6:46Speaker 3: going to happen.
- 6:48Speaker 4: Like, There's a bit of that for me with Sark,
- 6:51Speaker 4: for sure. And it's something that I've felt for a while.
- 6:55Speaker 4: He's made some, I don't know, the red zone stuff
- 6:58Speaker 4: that he's done in this game. It's just not, it
- 7:00Speaker 4: feels like he's choked up. Of course, he's not great
- 7:02Speaker 4: there anyway, statistically. But I'm kind of with you, Tony,
- 7:06Speaker 4: with Julian saying, I think that we are potentially about
- 7:11Speaker 4: to see a game that kind of starts a front
- 7:14Speaker 4: runner Heisman campaign here. The way he looked the other day,
- 7:17Speaker 4: the way we've seen him throughout the offseason, it just
- 7:20Speaker 4: feels different than last year, which was so elite. And
- 7:23Speaker 4: Ryan Day talking about his release getting quicker and even
- 7:26Speaker 4: more accurate. And I thought that's ridiculous. And it really
- 7:30Speaker 4: did look like that. Minus, I was saying to myself,
- 7:34Speaker 4: the first possession, and then realized later on watching the
- 7:36Speaker 4: video that it was actually Jeremiah broke off the route,
- 7:40Speaker 4: the one that he airmailed out there. So it was
- 7:43Speaker 4: almost a flawless game. A perfect 158.3 passer rating. I mean,
- 7:47Speaker 4: I don't care who you're playing against. It's just ridiculous.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Yeah, Julian Sane was 21 of 25 week one against
- 7:53Speaker 1: Ball State. Had two incomplete passes on the first drive.
- 7:56Speaker 1: So he was 21 for 23 the rest of the game.
- 7:59Speaker 1: One of the passes hit Bo Jackson in the hands
- 8:02Speaker 1: on the goal line and just he.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Didn't catch it.
- 8:05Speaker 1: And the other one hit Chris Henry in the hands
- 8:08Speaker 1: on the goal line. And the defender kind of got
- 8:10Speaker 1: his arm on Chris Henry's arm and kind of knocked
- 8:12Speaker 1: it away.
- 8:13Speaker 2: But it was.
- 8:14Speaker 1: 21 completed passes and two balls that hit receivers directly
- 8:18Speaker 1: in the hands.
- 8:18Speaker 3: And, you know, you had the miscommunication with Jeremiah. And
- 8:21Speaker 3: then also the Devin McEwen thing was just– that was–
- 8:24Speaker 3: you throw it up for him. And it was maybe
- 8:26Speaker 3: a yard, you know, over his head. It's like, yeah,
- 8:30Speaker 3: that's a pretty accurate day. I think, Tom, you're going
- 8:32Speaker 3: to have to dig out your photo of Julian from
- 8:36Speaker 3: spring of 25 when the light is shining down from Woody.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Uh-huh, uh-huh.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Awesome shot. That's the guy. This is an opportunity for
- 8:49Speaker 3: him to just shape the next part of his story
- 8:54Speaker 3: because it did not end well last year for him.
- 8:57Speaker 3: Some Ohio State fans are like, it's time for tape.
- 8:59Speaker 3: It's time to move on because you know you're limited.
- 9:03Speaker 3: I think, and tell him wrong about this, and I
- 9:07Speaker 3: may be here in two days talking about it, but
- 9:10Speaker 3: I think he is the difference in this game and
- 9:13Speaker 3: his accuracy and his comfort level, his understanding of the offense,
- 9:17Speaker 3: the weaponization of the cadence and the timing and the
- 9:20Speaker 3: tempo and all of that thing, all of those things,
- 9:22Speaker 3: I think make him a better guy, better quarterback, better
- 9:25Speaker 3: equips him to attack any kind of defense, but also
- 9:29Speaker 3: it's going to be fascinating to see him try to
- 9:31Speaker 3: handle this.
- 9:33Speaker 2: True or false.
- 9:34Speaker 1: The winning quarterback has a, 95 percent chance of being
- 9:39Speaker 1: in new york for the heisman ceremony the winning quarterback
- 9:42Speaker 1: of this game.
- 9:43Speaker 4: True yeah true yeah yeah.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Because i and i think because you know we're talking
- 9:48Speaker 1: about this as this can be julian saying making a
- 9:52Speaker 1: statement and showing people that the last season was not
- 9:55Speaker 1: you know the end of last season wasn't you know,
- 9:58Speaker 1: you could say many of the same words about Arch Manning.
- 10:00Speaker 1: And you could say many of the same words about
- 10:02Speaker 1: the Texas receiver core this year, because last year, Ohio
- 10:06Speaker 1: state had a decided.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Advantage in the receiving core.
- 10:10Speaker 1: And it wasn't like Ohio state had a great receiving
- 10:11Speaker 1: core beyond the top two last year, but the top
- 10:14Speaker 1: two was so good this year. I think Ohio state's
- 10:16Speaker 1: receiving core is Very good with the top two, but
- 10:18Speaker 1: also pretty good, pretty deep. I think it's a better
- 10:20Speaker 1: receiving core for Ohio State this year. But holy smokes,
- 10:23Speaker 1: you take Ryan Wingo and then you add Cam Coleman
- 10:26Speaker 1: to him. And Mosley is, I mean, Mosley's no slouch.
- 10:32Speaker 1: They have a really, really good top three wide receivers.
- 10:35Speaker 1: This is the best wide receiver core Ohio State has
- 10:38Speaker 1: faced since.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Uh, better than Miami last year, I would say probably
- 10:45Speaker 1: better than Indiana last year.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Probably.
- 10:49Speaker 3: I mean, those are really good.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Like I'm going back to like 2024, Oregon, when it
- 10:56Speaker 1: was like Evan Stewart, like you don't face that many,
- 11:00Speaker 1: like really, really insanely talented wide receiver cores in the
- 11:04Speaker 1: big 10.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Like there's, you're getting a lot of.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Purdue in the monitors at times in the big 10
- 11:08Speaker 1: and a lot of Wisconsin. And, you know, even some
- 11:11Speaker 1: of the good teams, uh, don't have elite wide receiver play.
- 11:15Speaker 1: That to me is between Arch Manning and the wide receivers. This,
- 11:20Speaker 1: I think, Chuck, is going to be a substantial challenge
- 11:22Speaker 1: for that secondary.
- 11:24Speaker 2: No doubt.
- 11:25Speaker 4: No doubt. You know, Jermaine looking really good in week one.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Devin Sanchez with the challenge that he sat there and
- 11:32Speaker 4: remember over the preseason in his interview session, named off
- 11:38Speaker 4: all the guys he's going against by name. And now
- 11:41Speaker 4: it's time at home and really his first huge test
- 11:46Speaker 4: in his home state. And that storyline is, is going
- 11:49Speaker 4: to be something to follow. If, if he does real well,
- 11:53Speaker 4: I mean, it's just confidence meter off the charts moving
- 11:56Speaker 4: forward because this won't be the only insane receiving room.
- 11:59Speaker 4: He sees that Oregon one is pretty lethal as well.
- 12:04Speaker 3: He mentioned two guys from Oregon. He's going through the
- 12:06Speaker 3: names of players, but yeah, I, We think we know
- 12:10Speaker 3: about the Ohio State corners, but we're really going to know.
- 12:13Speaker 3: And we're certainly going to know a lot more about
- 12:16Speaker 3: Devin Sanchez, who is the most confident player on the
- 12:19Speaker 3: team because, one, he's a corner, so he has to be.
- 12:22Speaker 3: But this is also a big game for Jermaine Matthews,
- 12:25Speaker 3: who gave up some catches last week, has been kind
- 12:30Speaker 3: of diminished in the eyes of a lot of people
- 12:32Speaker 3: for some of the catches against Indiana. And so this
- 12:35Speaker 3: is an opportunity for him to shut people up. And
- 12:37Speaker 3: he had the interception against Arch last year. He had
- 12:40Speaker 3: a good game there, but also gave up the touchdown.
- 12:43Speaker 3: And on a heck of a reception, and that was
- 12:45Speaker 3: good coverage. And those guys, there's a lot of pressure
- 12:49Speaker 3: on them because those are two NFL receivers that are
- 12:51Speaker 3: going to be going against the brain. One goes fast,
- 12:53Speaker 3: and second, Kent Coleman has got the catch radius of
- 12:57Speaker 3: a smaller Jeremiah Smith, if you will. But then also
- 13:01Speaker 3: Jay Timmons dealing with a legit slot receiver in this
- 13:05Speaker 3: one is going to be a test. We're going to
- 13:10Speaker 3: see what Jay Timmons is like right now in terms
- 13:12Speaker 3: of he makes a lot of plays in practice. Now
- 13:15Speaker 3: you're going to see it one way or the other.
- 13:18Speaker 3: Is this game too big for him? Nothing suggests, and
- 13:22Speaker 3: I see you smiling already, nothing suggests that anything is
- 13:25Speaker 3: too big for him, which is crazy for a freshman,
- 13:27Speaker 3: but I don't think he's a normal freshman.
- 13:30Speaker 1: I agree.
- 13:31Speaker 4: Not a normal freshman. This moment is huge. Personality-wise, if
- 13:35Speaker 4: there's anybody who's going to be unfazed by the moment,
- 13:38Speaker 4: it's this dude, and he's just different. And if he
- 13:41Speaker 4: can come out of here relatively unscathed when we talk
- 13:44Speaker 4: about giving up, making stupid plays, giving up a couple
- 13:47Speaker 4: of big chunk yard of plays off of some errors,
- 13:50Speaker 4: I think that it's just going to be a really
- 13:52Speaker 4: solid to good day. And if he makes a bad play,
- 13:55Speaker 4: he'll probably make a great one to make up for it.
- 13:58Speaker 4: I feel good about that one. it's germane is, is,
- 14:02Speaker 4: is the situation that kind of gives me a little
- 14:04Speaker 4: bit of pause, but that's only because we've seen him,
- 14:06Speaker 4: you know, give up some plays where you're like, ah, man,
- 14:09Speaker 4: but he could potentially kind of resurrect his reputation with
- 14:14Speaker 4: a lot of people are down on him with a
- 14:16Speaker 4: really solid one here because they've all got incredible matchups,
- 14:19Speaker 4: difficult matchups, each one of them.
- 14:21Speaker 3: Do you think, because it's something Tom and I were
- 14:23Speaker 3: talking about, do you think there is a third corner involved?
- 14:26Speaker 3: Cause I, I'm thinking Jay Timmons might be the third corner,
- 14:29Speaker 3: That's true.
- 14:29Speaker 4: That would be my thought.
- 14:30Speaker 3: Yeah, like instead of Cam Coleman or Cam Calhoun, you're
- 14:33Speaker 3: going to see Jay Timmons play some outside, which he
- 14:36Speaker 3: did last week. So I think they'll rotate that way
- 14:38Speaker 3: in order to keep guys as fresh as they can,
- 14:40Speaker 3: but also like Jay Timmons working outside against these two
- 14:43Speaker 3: guys is a huge task as well because the outside
- 14:47Speaker 3: guys are better than the inside guys.
- 14:49Speaker 2: And I don't know, like he's played. He has played
- 14:53Speaker 2: a college game now. He has a college game under
- 14:55Speaker 2: his belt.
- 14:56Speaker 1: I don't know that he has any experience against any
- 14:59Speaker 1: kind of, I mean, like, it was just kind of like, yes,
- 15:02Speaker 1: you were there. They were really not ever tested downfield.
- 15:07Speaker 1: There were a couple shots downfield, one on like a
- 15:11Speaker 1: double reverse flea flicker where there was a guy open,
- 15:14Speaker 1: but the, it was like Matthews, I think was the
- 15:17Speaker 1: guy who was closest, but it was just kind of
- 15:19Speaker 1: someone who got lost in coverage and then they overshot him.
- 15:22Speaker 2: There was one deep shot to Cam Calhoun. That was
- 15:24Speaker 2: kind of it all week last week. They just didn't,
- 15:27Speaker 2: Ball State really didn't throw the ball.
- 15:28Speaker 1: So I feel like the whole Ohio State secondary, I'm
- 15:33Speaker 1: exactly where I was before the season. I feel like
- 15:36Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons to be encouraged. I think
- 15:37Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons to think this is going
- 15:39Speaker 1: to be a good secondary. I don't know that I
- 15:42Speaker 1: learned anything one way or the other last week.
- 15:45Speaker 4: Totally with you on that. My notes from the secondary
- 15:48Speaker 4: after the game were empty.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Yeah, just like, yeah, I don't know.
- 15:52Speaker 3: Before we get to the Super Chat, we'll see the
- 15:54Speaker 3: real Earl Little. this week as well. We have no
- 15:57Speaker 3: idea what that looks like in terms of is he
- 16:00Speaker 3: just going to be a strong safety and help out?
- 16:03Speaker 3: Is he going to attack? I guess he was on
- 16:05Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage maybe once in the Texas State game,
- 16:09Speaker 3: but where is he going to be? He has to
- 16:13Speaker 3: be a guy that Arch Manning is asking the same question.
- 16:16Speaker 3: Where is he? What's he there for? What's he doing?
- 16:18Speaker 3: Why is he looking at me like that? We had
- 16:22Speaker 3: so many expectations for him before before the spring and
- 16:26Speaker 3: after the spring, thinking he's going to be this weaponized nickel.
- 16:30Speaker 3: And then you get to fall camp and it's like, oh,
- 16:32Speaker 3: he's just a strong safety. But it's like, is he just? Like,
- 16:36Speaker 3: is that diminishing him to say he's just this? Because
- 16:39Speaker 3: we don't know. We know he was the Florida State
- 16:41Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year. Think of that what you will.
- 16:44Speaker 3: But he was second team all ACC. Think of that
- 16:46Speaker 3: what you will by Jeremiah Smith-Pikes.
- 16:52Speaker 6: Make you find love Love This time Can what I
- 17:07Speaker 6: feel Be real Well she threw away the motel key
- 17:15Speaker 6: I wish she'd never met me Oh, yeah. Say you will,
- 17:30Speaker 6: I say you will. If you tell me that Des
- 17:35Speaker 6: Moines's all right, we could steal a car and leave tonight.