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Danny Parkins on Lakers losing to Rockets, Harden Playoff Struggles & Celtics' Red Flags | 04.30 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to The Right Time, a Wave original.
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Speaker 1: My name is Beaumontie Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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Speaker 1: You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe
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Speaker 1: you are a hater.
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Speaker 2: We got Danny Parkins in on Thursday. What's going on, man?
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Beau. God, these NBA playoffs are a marathon,
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Speaker 3: my man.
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Speaker 2: It's a marathon.
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Speaker 1: We really just got to get through, like, the next
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Speaker 1: two and a half weeks or so.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 2: That's a long time. But that's the key.
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Speaker 1: Like, once we can start getting some teams out of
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Speaker 1: here in the second round.
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Speaker 2: Like, we've gotten some help already, right? Oklahoma City. Did
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Speaker 2: they part? Made quick work. San Antonio. Did they part?
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Speaker 1: The Lakers had their opportunity to do their part last
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Speaker 1: night because it's worse with them because they've games could
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Speaker 1: be way far West.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? But they didn't do it.
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Speaker 2: They had nothing for us, which is raising the question.
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Speaker 1: I talked about this a bit of goodwill on Wednesday show.
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Speaker 2: They really did play over their heads in those first
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Speaker 2: three games, right?
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Speaker 1: The question is whether or not we are witnessing a
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Speaker 1: regression to the mean in this case. Because they got
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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves back, and I don't know if that hurt
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Speaker 1: or helped.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Austin Reeves clearly was knocking off some
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Speaker 3: rust and had some fatigue. A lot of his shots
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Speaker 3: were coming up short. Obviously, very different players. we kind of,
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Speaker 3: we saw with Joel Embiid, like Embiid came back and
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Speaker 3: game one was not good. And then game two, he
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Speaker 3: was dominant. So I think the Lakers, that might be
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Speaker 3: like their biggest sign for optimism is that in theory,
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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves should have fresher legs than the rest of
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Speaker 3: the squad for game six. And maybe all weird sentence,
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Speaker 3: maybe Austin Reeves, Dave LeBron James and the Lakers, like
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Speaker 3: very weird time we're living in, but it is possible. Uh,
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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was a, I don't think Luke Kennard
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Speaker 3: and Marcus Smart were going to do that. You know,
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Speaker 3: just like those guys were, and those first games, it
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Speaker 3: wasn't just that Kennard went nuts or Marcus Smart went nuts.
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Speaker 3: They all went nuts early. Like they all had amazing
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Speaker 3: first quarters. So like LeBron could save some energy for
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Speaker 3: the end and they could play with a lead and
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Speaker 3: Houston could get tight. So it wasn't just like, oh,
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Speaker 3: a random spurt late in the second quarter. It gave
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Speaker 3: them a cushion for the whole game. And yeah, that
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Speaker 3: is not happening anymore.
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Speaker 1: Like, I believe that there was no excuse for the
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Speaker 1: Rockets to lose this series with or without Kevin Durant.
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Speaker 1: That was my take in the beginning. Now that it's 3-2,
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Speaker 1: we're kind of with game six being at the crib, right? Like,
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Speaker 1: we're kind of in, like, look, man, the thing about playoff.
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Speaker 2: Series is the Rockets... don't have.
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Speaker 1: Home court advantage, but they got it back to where
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Speaker 1: it was supposed to be off the top, right? Like,
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Speaker 1: it's all just a matter of, can you sneak a
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Speaker 1: win here and there? Now, of course, what we're asking
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Speaker 1: them to do at this point is win four games
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Speaker 1: in a row, which is very difficult to do against
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Speaker 1: a team that is reasonably in the same ballpark as
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Speaker 1: you are. But then winning now that it's 3-2, like,
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Speaker 1: I feel like we have to ignore the fact that
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Speaker 1: it used to be 3-0.
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Speaker 2: Now it's 3-2. They have game six at home.
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Speaker 1: It is reasonable that the following collection of players could
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Speaker 1: win this playoff series.
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Speaker 2: Jabari Smith, Tari Eason, whose mama be talking crazy about
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Speaker 2: him on the Internet. It is the wildest story in
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Speaker 2: the NBA that like as somebody who has haters, nobody
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Speaker 2: hates on me like Tari Eason's mom hates on him.
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Speaker 3: I'm not familiar. What is she doing, man?
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Speaker 2: Let me look. Let me let me look. I'm sorry
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Speaker 2: to not be able to. Yes.
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Speaker 3: And you hear I've missed.
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Speaker 1: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
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Speaker 1: Tari Eason, mom, Twitter. Let me get to where this is.
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Speaker 1: So this is from Reddit 11 months ago. And it
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Speaker 1: said the title is Bro. Tari Eason's mom posted this. Oh, actually, no,
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Speaker 1: that was.
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Speaker 2: Her being very harsh toward the toward the Warriors. Apparently,
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Speaker 2: she's just like this. With everybody.
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Speaker 1: But, like, if he has a bad game, Tari Eason's
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Speaker 1: mom is going to be the one to say that
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Speaker 1: he's had a bad game.
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Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 2: Fun.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Like, it's that sort of situation. But these are the guys.
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Speaker 3: I like it.
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Speaker 2: These are the guys that are out there in this game.
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Speaker 2: What a weird series this is.
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Speaker 1: Jabari Smith, Tari Eason, Alprin Shingun, Ahmed Thompson, Reed Shepard,
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Speaker 1: Dorian Finney-Smith, Aaron Holiday.
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Speaker 2: And Josh Akogi. Smith, Shingun, Thompson, and Thompson played 42, 43,
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Speaker 2: and 46 minutes.
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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves comes off the oak after missing that time
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Speaker 1: and plays 34 minutes because you had to because he
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Speaker 1: used to be playing really over 40 and you still
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Speaker 1: had to play him 37. It's a 41-year-old man playing
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Speaker 1: 39 minutes. DeAndre Ayton playing 38 minutes for you.
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Speaker 2: Shit, I should have known you lost just by looking
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Speaker 2: at that. Marcus Smart in year 12 giving you 37 minutes.
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Speaker 3: It is a ragtag bunch for the Lakers. And the
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Speaker 3: Rocket side of it, like, man, that game was weird.
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Speaker 3: The series has been weird. Last night, the Lakers are
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Speaker 3: making their comeback. They cut it to three after the
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Speaker 3: Rockets had seemingly been in control. And Reed Shepard goes ISO,
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Speaker 3: hits a bucket, and then picks LeBron's.
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Speaker 2: Pocket and fast breaks the other end. I'm like, what
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Speaker 2: am I watching? I got it.
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Speaker 3: Like, it was such a, it's such a strange series.
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Speaker 3: But to your point earlier, too, like, The Rockets had
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Speaker 3: a collapse where they're up six with 30 seconds to
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Speaker 3: go and blow the game. Series very easily could have
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Speaker 3: been 2-2, but if we just men in black mind
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Speaker 3: erased ourselves and hadn't watched a minute of the series
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Speaker 3: and said, okay, there's no Luka, there's no KD, Austin
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Speaker 3: Reeves is coming off an injury, the Rockets are down 3-2,
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Speaker 3: but game six is in Houston. I think it would
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Speaker 3: be totally reasonable to pick Houston to still win the
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Speaker 3: series because... old lebron old lakers team with one day
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Speaker 3: arrest between game five and game six and then one
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Speaker 3: day arrest between game six and game seven like the
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Speaker 3: younger more athletic team should get stronger as the series
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Speaker 3: goes and i think that's what we're seeing like i
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Speaker 3: think houston's defense the last like nine quarters has been
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Speaker 3: pretty like i think it's 21 or fewer points for
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Speaker 3: the lakers and like six of the last nine or
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Speaker 3: six of the last 10 quarters. So I think this
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Speaker 3: is tilting towards Houston and LeBron could end up being
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Speaker 3: the first guy ever to lose a series up 3-0.
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Speaker 1: You remember when LeBron said he don't even like when
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Speaker 1: he was explaining about how he don't like to go
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Speaker 1: to Memphis and he was like, I don't even like
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Speaker 1: to go home no more.
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Speaker 2: After letting Reed.
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Speaker 1: Shepard take your cookies like that in front of everybody,
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Speaker 1: I don't.
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Speaker 2: Think he's ever going back. I wouldn't personally.
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Speaker 1: And when I say I wouldn't, I don't mean I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't if I was LeBron James. I mean that I
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Speaker 1: comma Beaumont Jones at age 45.
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Speaker 2: It's hard to explain.
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Speaker 1: It's not that Reed Shepard shouldn't be able to take
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Speaker 1: the ball from me.
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Speaker 2: I'm just not going to be able to explain it
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Speaker 2: to people.
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Speaker 3: It was wild. It was a wild moment. And it
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Speaker 3: happened in the fourth quarter of an NBA playoff game.
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Speaker 2: I witnessed it.
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Speaker 3: I'll remember where I was fighting off sleep on my couch.
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Speaker 2: Let me tell you who's really going to remember with that.
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Speaker 2: Reed Shepard.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what Reed Shepard is going to have
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Speaker 1: to do with the rest of his career for this
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Speaker 1: to not be the first line in the rest of it.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: Like right there.
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Speaker 3: You remember that sequence in the fourth quarter, a game
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Speaker 3: five of a round one game where you got the
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Speaker 3: best of LeBron James in a 45 second stretch.
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Speaker 1: Brother, let me tell you something about that one time
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Speaker 1: I dumped a basketball in a game.
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Speaker 3: Right? Hell yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I remember when I worked with Pablo. Pablo would
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Speaker 1: get on me about that, and he'd be like, that
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Speaker 1: one time.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, tell me about the one time.
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Speaker 3: Right? I don't got the one time.
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Speaker 1: The one time. It never happened again. I don't think
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Speaker 1: I ever tried. I don't think I ever tried before that.
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Speaker 1: But you're going to hear about this. I have to
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Speaker 1: tell you about this.
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Speaker 2: There's a dude my brother's cool with, and he used
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Speaker 2: to live in my building. Right?
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Speaker 1: And this is no lie. he invented the phrase wifi.
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Speaker 1: That's his claim to fame that he was in the
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Speaker 1: meeting and they were like, what are we going to
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Speaker 1: call this? And he throws out wifi and he's kind
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Speaker 1: of like the dudes who play drums or James Brown,
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Speaker 1: where everybody sampled your breaks, but you ain't getting, you
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Speaker 1: ain't get paid for it. Or like in the wire
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Speaker 1: where Wallace is like the dude who invented the chicken
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Speaker 1: McNugget must be rich.
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Speaker 2: But he's not the similar thing.
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Speaker 1: And so my brother had told me all this time
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Speaker 1: about the story, about the guy who invented wifi. And, um,
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Speaker 1: I said, he then one day said who the guy was.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I didn't know it was him.
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Speaker 1: He was like, oh, my bad. I thought you said
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Speaker 1: you'd had a conversation with him before. Because, hey, man,
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Speaker 1: it comes up quick as it would come up quick
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Speaker 1: for me.
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Speaker 2: That might actually be my nickname.
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Speaker 3: Bomani Wi-Fi Jones.
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Speaker 2: Wi-Fi Jones.
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Speaker 1: That's what they call me, Wi-Fi Jones. So when I
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Speaker 1: was cooking up Wi-Fi, right? That's what it would be.
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Speaker 1: If I'm Reed Shepard and I took LeBron's rock, that's
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Speaker 1: all anybody's going to hear about. Sure, my dad was
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Speaker 1: the most outstanding player in the 1998 Final Four.
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Speaker 2: But we're not going to talk about that. That's old news, pops.
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Speaker 1: Was LeBron James playing in that game or was Michael Doliak?
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Speaker 1: playing in that oh that's right it was Michael Doliak
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Speaker 1: that you were playing against.
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Speaker 3: Got it yeah you and I got to be honest.
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Speaker 3: I don't have my one-time dunk story. And I don't
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Speaker 3: even have, for my people and my athletic ability, I
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Speaker 3: don't have my one-time hole-in-one story. But I promise you, Bo,
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Speaker 3: when I get that hole-in-one... I'm working it into every conversation.
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Speaker 3: You got to.
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Speaker 2: You got to.
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Speaker 1: And remember, the key is you got to start recording
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Speaker 1: the video from the tee, not from the shot necessarily,
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Speaker 1: but you're going to have to walk it all the
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Speaker 1: way down to be sure that you have gotten it.
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Speaker 1: And I got to say, that is not just for
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Speaker 1: your people in the way that you intended. That is
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Speaker 1: just for a certain class of the bourgeoisie because if
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Speaker 1: my brother hits a hole in one brother, I'm low-key
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Speaker 1: hoping he never does.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this summer, I am looking forward.
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Speaker 3: Me and your brother have to get out and finally
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Speaker 3: put this all together.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Because let me tell you, there's a hole in one.
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Speaker 1: I don't know when we're ever going to stop hearing
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Speaker 1: about this. I personally think you guys need to be
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Speaker 1: glad that I don't talk all the time about when
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Speaker 1: I got that hole in one on the wordle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Thank you. Right.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for sparing us with your first guest.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See that
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Speaker 2: right there. That's the issue.
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Speaker 1: It take as much skill to get that as it
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Speaker 1: would to get your hole in one in golf. It's
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Speaker 1: just a good, pure swing with a little bit of
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Speaker 1: luck after.
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Speaker 3: You keep telling yourself that.
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Speaker 2: You keep telling yourself that, huh? How about that? Right?
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Speaker 2: There we go. Like, Greg Maddux never threw a no-hitter.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: That's true.
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Speaker 2: That's true.
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Speaker 3: There's a certain amount of luck involved. Hell yeah, there's.
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Speaker 2: A certain amount of luck. Like, I can't believe... Came
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Speaker 2: in here, poo-pooing all night.
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Speaker 1: First thing, the first green square, then the second green square,
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Speaker 1: then it felt like the next.
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Speaker 2: Three just went all to sprint. And I was like,
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Speaker 2: wait a minute. Is something broken? Did I get my
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Speaker 2: hole in what? My brother got a hole in one
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Speaker 2: on that the other day, but I ain't going to lie.
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Speaker 1: I'm hating because my brother did the technocratic move of
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Speaker 1: he just used what they say is the best combination.
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Speaker 1: So I don't even feel like that counts. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying? It counts because you got it.
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Speaker 2: But like.
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Speaker 3: It's like a hole-in-one on a par-three course. You have
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Speaker 3: more chances.
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Speaker 1: I pulled it off with a door. As a Prince fan,
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Speaker 1: I got a door as my hole-in-one. As what I
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Speaker 1: was going for was to get three vowels and not
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Speaker 1: to just go with the most common letters.
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Speaker 2: Throw a little L1 on it. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: And so I got a good little hit. I felt
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Speaker 1: like I spud it back.
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Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: I felt like I got it to go past the holes.
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Speaker 1: And then I hit it with the right kind of speed.
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Speaker 3: Were you concerned about a Dorn?
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Speaker 2: You know, I was, but sometimes you got to make
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Speaker 2: the hard decisions. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying? And I, and that's, that's
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Speaker 2: what I did.
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Speaker 3: Green, green, green.
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Speaker 1: I went like this right here. I took my tongue.
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Speaker 1: I put it on my thumb, put it up in
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Speaker 1: the air. I saw which way it was going, man.
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Speaker 1: That's what I, that, that's, that's what I did. And so, yes,
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Speaker 1: this is what it's going to be like to be
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Speaker 1: cool with Reed Shepard. For anybody that knows him, that's
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Speaker 1: met him or anything else, this is going to be
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Speaker 1: your life. But I got to ask you this, and
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Speaker 1: this is tied to a game from Wednesday night, and
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Speaker 1: it's this thing that Ryan told me.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, there's no way. Not Danny Parkins.
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Speaker 1: Not such a reasonable man with a historical background.
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Speaker 2: There's no way that this is what's going on, but
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Speaker 2: Have I heard correctly that you are all in on
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Speaker 2: James Harden and the Cleveland Cavaliers to win the East?
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you a story, Bo. Short answer is yes.
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Speaker 3: In fairness to me, I made this pick before Jason
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Speaker 3: Tatum came back and looked like Jason Tatum. Okay. This
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Speaker 3: was a day after the Garland trade.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Because I am not a Darius Garland fan. I think
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Speaker 3: that he is part of a breed of NBA player
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Speaker 3: that is very exciting to watch, but very difficult to
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Speaker 3: win with. Like the six-foot fast guard.
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Speaker 2: Let me put a pin in that right fast.
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Speaker 1: We're going to get back to this other thing in
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Speaker 1: a minute, but I want us to maybe not, even
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Speaker 1: if not now, but it's a discussion to be had.
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Speaker 1: I would make the argument that Darius Garland, for those reasons,
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Speaker 1: is a... I am fans of guys that you're not
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Speaker 1: going to win with because they're fun. But I get you.
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Speaker 2: As a television analyst with an investment in being right.
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Speaker 3: That is it.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
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Speaker 3: I was like, man, he's a small, fast guy with...
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Speaker 3: bad toe injuries who you got to give three years,
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Speaker 3: $ 178 million to on his next contract. You didn't win
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Speaker 3: anything with him.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was totally reasonable to, yes, you're not
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Speaker 3: selling high on the asset, but I think that asset
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Speaker 3: is going down. I was like upgrading him for Harden,
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Speaker 3: who could take some of the burden off of Donovan Mitchell,
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Speaker 3: who's a great passer. Like I thought it made some
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Speaker 3: sense at the time. And I didn't think Tatum was
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Speaker 3: going to come back and be Tatum 10 months after
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Speaker 3: the Achilles injury. And then I'd like to think of
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Speaker 3: myself as the guy, in the Titanic who closes himself
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Speaker 3: in the captain's room and is willing to go down
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Speaker 3: with the ship as opposed to the guy at the
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Speaker 3: end of the movie who's like, I have a child
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Speaker 3: and gets off the boat. And so I'm not abandoning
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Speaker 3: my take. And I do think that James Harden, while
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Speaker 3: he has way too many unforgivable and atrocious game sevens,
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Speaker 3: People act like he doesn't have good playoff games.
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 3: And he has a lot of them. Like you would
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Speaker 3: think he's fourth in active playoff minutes. You would think
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Speaker 3: he'd be like 11th in scoring. He's fourth. fourth and
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Speaker 3: made threes like he's he's right in line he has
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Speaker 3: he has some stinkers and as nick right likes to
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Speaker 3: point out he has like triple the games of the
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Speaker 3: next guy with like more turnovers than than made baskets
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Speaker 3: so he definitely is a ball dominant guy gets a
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Speaker 3: little careless with the ball but He's not supposed to
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Speaker 3: be the number one on this Cavs team. That's supposed
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Speaker 3: to be Donovan Mitchell. And if we're being honest, the
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Speaker 3: number two is probably supposed to be Evan Mobley. And
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Speaker 3: Mobley had a good game last night, but has been
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Speaker 3: very disappointing in these playoffs and I think has plateaued.
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Speaker 3: And so I think for what they are asking of
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Speaker 3: Harden at this stage of his career, frankly, he's been
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Speaker 3: the only one who hasn't looked scared on Cleveland. And so, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I am a bit of a James Harden truther.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm going to throw this out here just
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Speaker 1: as like a pro tip of sorts. And I know
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Speaker 1: you don't need like full on pro tips. You've been
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Speaker 1: doing this job for a while, but like it's a
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Speaker 1: little different on radio. Radio involves a lot more words,
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Speaker 1: a lot more conversation, right? The volume of what you
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Speaker 1: do on radio is different than TV. TV, what you say,
17:04
Speaker 1: it feels like it sticks a little more. hey, man,
17:06
Speaker 1: don't be holding yourself accountable to what you did to
17:09
Speaker 1: fill out the rundown that one day.
17:11
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
17:12
Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
17:13
Speaker 1: Just because you took that one for the team on
17:16
Speaker 1: that day does not obligate you to ride this whole
17:19
Speaker 1: thing out. Now, you raised, in hearing you talk about
17:22
Speaker 1: who should be the number one, number two, and number
17:23
Speaker 1: three on Cleveland, you made me think about that team
17:27
Speaker 1: in ways that I hadn't thought about, right? Because for me,
17:30
Speaker 1: my issue with them before the trade was, You have
17:33
Speaker 1: two small guards and you have two tall guys.
17:36
Speaker 2: And that is not the same thing as two big guys.
17:39
Speaker 1: And when you wind up in a situation where you
17:41
Speaker 1: have to deal with big guys, right? Like if they
17:46
Speaker 1: mess around and have to go play Detroit, which I
17:48
Speaker 1: don't think is going to get that far. But if
17:49
Speaker 1: they had to mess around and go play Detroit, Detroit has.
17:52
Speaker 2: Big guys, right? Beef stew don't need to be as
17:56
Speaker 2: tall as these boys.
17:57
Speaker 1: Because he coming in there just to knock their asses around, right?
18:00
Speaker 1: Jalen Dura's coming in there to knock their asses around.
18:03
Speaker 2: There we go.
18:04
Speaker 3: Yep, 100%.
18:05
Speaker 1: But I always struggle with the idea of Donovan Mitchell
18:09
Speaker 1: as your number one because small guard, right?
18:12
Speaker 2: And then when you talk about Evan Mobley, we get
18:14
Speaker 2: to that part.
18:16
Speaker 1: In a weird way, the most reasonable, true number one
18:21
Speaker 1: option for them in the postseason One.
18:25
Speaker 2: Would argue is James Harden. Like we've seen James Harden
18:28
Speaker 2: get teams to the conference finals, right? And I am
18:30
Speaker 2: not a James Harden truther. I am the opposite.
18:33
Speaker 1: I just know, I agree with you on the point
18:36
Speaker 1: and I think that it gets lost. He has a
18:37
Speaker 1: lot of really good games in the playoffs. You just
18:39
Speaker 1: know in the last one, he's going to stink. That's
18:42
Speaker 1: the part that you know. And hey, maybe in line
18:46
Speaker 1: with your fill the rundown point, the last game.
18:49
Speaker 2: Might not be the Eastern Conference Finals.
18:51
Speaker 1: Therefore, you can get by and you can win the East.
18:54
Speaker 1: But they have such a strangely configured team. where year
18:57
Speaker 1: 17 James Harden, there is a way in which you
19:01
Speaker 1: look at him and you say, at least for some
19:03
Speaker 1: of these games, this is the guy that I want
19:05
Speaker 1: to have the ball.
19:06
Speaker 2: Because Donovan Mitchell is so good.
19:08
Speaker 1: But he's a guy where I feel like Jalen Brunson
19:11
Speaker 1: is bigger than you think, even though it's like it's there.
19:14
Speaker 2: He's 6'2. It feels like he's 5'11, right? Donovan Mitchell,
19:18
Speaker 2: I feel like it feels like he's 6'3, 6'4. Nope,
19:20
Speaker 2: he's 6'1, 6'2.
19:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen, I think Donovan Mitchell is like a
19:26
Speaker 3: top 10 guy in the NBA. And so he's such
19:30
Speaker 3: an incredible scorer, also has had great playoff moments. And
19:33
Speaker 3: oftentimes his playoff losses, it's like Donovan Mitchell was amazing
19:37
Speaker 3: and everybody else was trash. And then the loss gets
19:40
Speaker 3: hung on him. And so I just try to be
19:42
Speaker 3: fair about those sorts of things. But there's no doubt
19:45
Speaker 3: that the ball is in Harden's hands way more than
19:48
Speaker 3: like I anticipated it needing to be when they made
19:52
Speaker 3: the trade. He has the ball the whole time. And
19:56
Speaker 3: I wish that there was a different way for that.
19:59
Speaker 3: And this is one that bothers Nick when I say
20:01
Speaker 3: it because it brings LeBron into the conversation. But I
20:03
Speaker 3: will ask you, do we talk about James Harden entirely
20:10
Speaker 3: differently if Chris Paul doesn't pull his hamstring it is
20:16
Speaker 3: a phenomenal question so for anyone who does not remember
20:20
Speaker 3: that Rockets team is built with the expressed we are
20:24
Speaker 3: not scared of the Warriors we're going to go after
20:26
Speaker 3: the Warriors.
20:27
Speaker 2: The most admirable thing Daryl Morey's ever done.
20:29
Speaker 3: Correct and they try to beat them at their own
20:31
Speaker 3: game and they are up three games to two And
20:35
Speaker 3: Chris Paul, at the end of Game 5, a game
20:38
Speaker 3: that they were up comfortably enough that he got hurt
20:40
Speaker 3: at the end of that game, they still win. They're
20:42
Speaker 3: up 3-2 against the Warriors. But CP3 goes out. Warriors
20:48
Speaker 3: come back and win in 7. Harden has the bad
20:50
Speaker 3: game seven, but he's all of a sudden out there
20:52
Speaker 3: with nobody else. He takes like.
20:53
Speaker 2: Didn't they miss 28 threes in a row?
20:55
Speaker 3: Correct. And he took... And.
20:57
Speaker 2: By the way, literally, I think it was 28. Correct.
21:00
Speaker 3: And he took like 30 shots in the game. So
21:03
Speaker 3: he didn't go down scared. He just went down missing.
21:07
Speaker 3: And then in the finals, Warriors sweep LeBron. It seems
21:14
Speaker 3: reasonable to say... That if the Rockets would have been
21:18
Speaker 3: able to beat the Warriors and the Warriors were good
21:21
Speaker 3: enough to sweep the Cavs, that Rockets team wins a
21:25
Speaker 3: title that year over LeBron. And all of a sudden,
21:27
Speaker 3: James Harden has beaten peak of their power, Steph Curry
21:32
Speaker 3: and LeBron in his prime. And we talk about him
21:35
Speaker 3: entirely differently. And it was because Chris Paul pulled his hamstring.
21:38
Speaker 1: I would say that we talk about him entirely differently
21:41
Speaker 1: simply if they go to the finals. Because every player...
21:46
Speaker 1: of his caliber, right? Every player with his historical legacy
21:52
Speaker 1: or a historical record, more accurately.
21:54
Speaker 3: Yeah.
21:55
Speaker 2: All of them have made the finals, right?
21:58
Speaker 1: Even when you start getting into the Carl Malone, Charles Barkley,
22:04
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing, right? Like when you get to that tier,
22:08
Speaker 1: they've all gotten to the finals. And I think that
22:11
Speaker 1: if Harden simply got to the finals, we would talk
22:14
Speaker 1: about him a bit differently. there's no way in 18
22:18
Speaker 1: double hockey sticks that LeBron James in 2018 was about
22:22
Speaker 1: to lose to some combination of Jim Horton and Chris
22:26
Speaker 1: Paul in the NBA finals. Cause look, I know the
22:28
Speaker 1: Rockets won like 65 games that year. I understand everything
22:32
Speaker 1: that you're saying, but I know for a fact that
22:34
Speaker 1: James Harden, that lemon booty would have, would have been
22:36
Speaker 1: overpowering for him.
22:39
Speaker 2: I listen.
22:39
Speaker 3: And I get, we're now arguing historical hypotheticals where either
22:43
Speaker 3: one of us could just be totally convinced that we
22:45
Speaker 3: are correct. But like, there's got to be some level
22:48
Speaker 3: of transitive property to the Warriors swept the Cavs. If
22:52
Speaker 3: the Rockets would have beaten the Warriors, that the Rockets
22:54
Speaker 3: would have had a fighting shot against that Cavs team.
22:57
Speaker 1: I think a fighting shot is fair. It's just that
23:01
Speaker 1: team has had a lot of dudes I don't trust.
23:03
Speaker 1: James Harden, Chris Paul, and Mike D'Antoni. At the same
23:09
Speaker 1: damn time.
23:11
Speaker 3: I get it. But they had the Warriors on the ropes.
23:16
Speaker 2: They did. They did. You're not wrong.
23:19
Speaker 1: Everything you say makes sense. But it reminds me of
23:22
Speaker 1: a meeting I once had with a professor in graduate school.
23:26
Speaker 2: And I needed some help with my homework. And I
23:29
Speaker 2: was going through my homework with him. And I was like,
23:31
Speaker 2: so what you think? And this.
23:33
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if
23:36
Speaker 1: this cat was good at jigsaw puzzles.
23:38
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying?
23:39
Speaker 1: Like if you could throw all your change up in
23:41
Speaker 1: the air, he could tell you the exact count by
23:43
Speaker 1: the time.
23:44
Speaker 2: It hit the ground. You feel me?
23:45
Speaker 3: I got you. I understand what you're saying.
23:47
Speaker 2: And I just remember that man did not look at me.
23:52
Speaker 1: He looked away from me and said, and I quote,
23:56
Speaker 1: you are off on one thing.
23:58
Speaker 2: And that one thing is everything.
24:04
Speaker 1: And that's where it gets to be the idea that
24:06
Speaker 1: James Harden was going to win a championship.
24:09
Speaker 2: I would tell you this, though.
24:11
Speaker 1: I had been saying maybe one day I'll get around
24:14
Speaker 1: to watching a game in that series. And after it
24:17
Speaker 1: became clear that Detroit was going to take care of Orlando,
24:20
Speaker 1: I went over there and watched some of that Raptors
24:23
Speaker 1: and Raptors Cavs series that surprisingly to me was on
24:27
Speaker 1: ESPN and not on Amazon Prime as Amazon Prime is
24:30
Speaker 1: like a souped up NBA TV series. Because that just
24:33
Speaker 1: seemed like such an obvious NBA TV series.
24:36
Speaker 2: Hey, man, that was a good game.
24:38
Speaker 1: Like, I think that series is going to wind up
24:40
Speaker 1: going seven games. I will now be able to, like,
24:43
Speaker 1: pick Scottie Barnes out of a lineup. Like, a lot
24:45
Speaker 1: of things I've been able to do since I went
24:47
Speaker 1: in there and watched that a little bit. But that
24:51
Speaker 1: team is, I guess if they get Orlando next, maybe
24:55
Speaker 1: they could beat them.
24:56
Speaker 2: But I think Detroit would wax them.
24:59
Speaker 3: Well, listen, Detroit is pretty one-dimensional. And so I'd be...
25:04
Speaker 3: I think going into the playoffs, Cleveland was the second
25:07
Speaker 3: favorite in the East in terms of the gambling markets. Now,
25:11
Speaker 3: everyone loves... Now, part of that was path because the
25:14
Speaker 3: Celtics and the Knicks would have to play each other
25:16
Speaker 3: in the second round. So part of that's the bracket
25:18
Speaker 3: and some skepticism on Detroit, which I think is being
25:21
Speaker 3: proven out by how this Magic series is going right now.
25:26
Speaker 3: But Cleveland is... and it's ridiculous for someone like me
25:30
Speaker 3: to say this about professional athletes, but like within the context,
25:33
Speaker 3: relative scale of professional athletes, they're a little soft. Like
25:38
Speaker 3: you were talking about it. They get big guys who
25:39
Speaker 3: are not big. That's like the more diplomatic way to
25:41
Speaker 3: say it. And so I do think that Detroit would
25:44
Speaker 3: physically impose on them. And by the way, Orlando is
25:47
Speaker 3: tough too. Like Wendell Carter and Jalen Suggs and those guys,
25:51
Speaker 3: they play really hard.
25:52
Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm not a Paolo guy. Paolo had a
25:56
Speaker 2: game in game five, but.
25:59
Speaker 1: Paolo seems like the kind of guy where for much
26:02
Speaker 1: of his career, we'll say, wow, he had a great
26:03
Speaker 1: game in that loss.
26:05
Speaker 3: I think that is, I think that is so far
26:07
Speaker 3: looking to be correct. And the magic are not that
26:10
Speaker 3: a ton of people care, but they were supposed to
26:14
Speaker 3: be like the, the odds, the wind total before the
26:17
Speaker 3: year 54 wind team, mid mid fifties. And then everybody
26:22
Speaker 3: got hurt. Like Wagner got hurt. Suggs was hurt. Paolo
26:27
Speaker 3: had weird stuff, weird stuff with the coach. Now all
26:29
Speaker 3: of a sudden they're healthy. They got Detroit on the ropes.
26:34
Speaker 3: Indiana made it last year. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, no,
26:38
Speaker 3: they like Indiana made it last year. I now have
26:41
Speaker 3: to be open to the pot. This is, this is
26:42
Speaker 3: not the NBA we grew up in where it's ones
26:45
Speaker 3: and two seeds, nine out of 10 years. Like it's,
26:49
Speaker 3: it is, there's so much damn talent in the league.
26:52
Speaker 3: And the three-point ball is such a variance that, I
26:54
Speaker 3: don't know, I think we have to be open to
26:56
Speaker 3: a lot more possibilities now.
26:57
Speaker 2: That is a fair point.
26:58
Speaker 1: And we have not discussed enough that Indiana went from
27:03
Speaker 1: having a legitimate chance to win the NBA championship, game seven,
27:08
Speaker 1: and were playing pretty well until Halliburton went down, to
27:12
Speaker 1: immediately saying, we're going to tank like you've never seen before.
27:19
Speaker 3: And it's smart. And it sucks.
27:22
Speaker 2: Yeah. It wasn't dumb, right? Yeah, yeah, right.
27:25
Speaker 3: We've talked about this before. There is a difference.
27:28
Speaker 1: But it's, yeah, look, like I said on the show yesterday,
27:31
Speaker 1: I was like, shout out to you, Adam Silver. Losing
27:33
Speaker 1: should make you feel ashamed.
27:35
Speaker 3: Right.
27:35
Speaker 2: And we have to try to do something. But that
27:37
Speaker 2: is such a huge swing.
27:39
Speaker 1: And let us not forget, that was the second straight
27:41
Speaker 1: year that Indiana had been to the conference finals. Like
27:43
Speaker 1: just like Minnesota went to the conference finals last year.
27:45
Speaker 1: Like this, like you talk about this being an NBA
27:48
Speaker 1: that's different than we grew up with. And I think
27:49
Speaker 1: the most interesting part of it is Minnesota went to
27:51
Speaker 1: the conference finals two years in a row and there's
27:54
Speaker 1: no pressure on them.
27:57
Speaker 3: No, because nobody thinks that they're a top three team.
28:00
Speaker 3: They're a sixth seed. No one thought they were a
28:02
Speaker 3: top three team in the West. Yeah. That weren't that
28:05
Speaker 3: impressive in the regular season.
28:06
Speaker 2: But nobody's even mad at them for that. Like nobody's like,
28:09
Speaker 2: hey guys, so when are you guys going to turn
28:11
Speaker 2: the corner? It's like every year is a new year
28:13
Speaker 2: in the NBA now.
28:14
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right. We got seven champions in the last seven years.
28:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
28:21
Speaker 3: We've talked about the problems of the regular season and
28:23
Speaker 3: they are significant. But if it actually has created a
28:26
Speaker 3: world where you can't just not watch a series because
28:31
Speaker 3: the NBA champion or at least the NBA finals representative
28:34
Speaker 3: could come out of any series, that makes what was
28:37
Speaker 3: already a great product even better.
28:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the Dynasty saga, right?
28:42
Speaker 1: Like, I think there's a bit of unfairness in some
28:47
Speaker 1: of the people ready to pounce on Jokic, but you
28:49
Speaker 1: know what? It's supposed to be like that, right? Three-time MVP,
28:52
Speaker 1: what the end game is supposed to be. No, there's
28:53
Speaker 1: supposed to be a little weight on this. Victor is
28:57
Speaker 1: the only guy that I think is in the league
28:59
Speaker 1: where we're going to, at some point, if it doesn't
29:01
Speaker 1: happen soon enough, where we're going to be like, hey, man,
29:03
Speaker 1: so when are you going to pull up and get
29:04
Speaker 1: that ring, guy?
29:05
Speaker 2: Right? Everybody else is just get into the tournament and Hey,
29:09
Speaker 2: maybe we'll just see how it goes.
29:11
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think people think that Victor is inevitable
29:16
Speaker 3: and they're probably right. I put, put, put me in
29:19
Speaker 3: that everyone category. Do you, the thunder are in such
29:25
Speaker 3: an unbelievable spot where like if Victor Wembanyama didn't exist,
29:30
Speaker 3: I absolutely would think that we were step one of dynasty.
29:35
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29:38
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Speaker 1: All right, we are back with Danny Parkins. And we're
32:28
Speaker 1: talking about the idea of like Oklahoma City as dynasty.
32:31
Speaker 1: The thing about Oklahoma City, and by the way, to
32:34
Speaker 1: a degree, San Antonio, depending upon how they wanted to
32:37
Speaker 1: use things, Oklahoma City still has that war chest of
32:40
Speaker 1: stuff to get better if they so decide.
32:44
Speaker 2: Like they could have gone and got Giannis.
32:46
Speaker 3: Correct. They are a perfectly constructed basketball team. And I...
32:53
Speaker 3: profiled in the book. What is one of the chapters,
32:55
Speaker 3: Sam Presti pipeline to the pros available now. Um, and he,
33:02
Speaker 3: you cannot play for the thunder. If you do not
33:04
Speaker 3: play defense, like that's one of the things like it,
33:08
Speaker 3: I've never seen a team like that. They don't just
33:11
Speaker 3: put out the spark plug offensive player, the white three-point shooter.
33:17
Speaker 3: They go nine deep, and they all D up. And
33:20
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, no, Jared McCain's not that good.
33:21
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know. He's playing his ass off.
33:23
Speaker 2: Oh, you're crazy. Jared McCain. David Starr should have stopped
33:28
Speaker 2: that trade from the grave.
33:30
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Like, and he's playing like eight minutes. Like it's,
33:33
Speaker 3: it's not, they are, they are so deep and so
33:37
Speaker 3: good at both ends of the floor. Chet, Jalen Williams
33:41
Speaker 3: and SGA are all signed through 2031. And to your
33:46
Speaker 3: point about all the assets, it's the draft picks like they,
33:50
Speaker 3: at which the draft, those draft picks, by the way,
33:52
Speaker 3: might've gotten more valuable in this new model because team
33:56
Speaker 3: misses the playoffs and you've got just as good of
33:58
Speaker 3: like a random down year. Maybe you're not going to
34:00
Speaker 3: get a top pick, but now you got flattened odds,
34:02
Speaker 3: better shot at doing it. But like they got Alex
34:05
Speaker 3: Caruso in just a one for one trade for Josh Giddey.
34:09
Speaker 3: Cause they're like, Josh Giddey is good, but doesn't have
34:12
Speaker 3: room on this team. So we'll go get Caruso because
34:15
Speaker 3: he's an unbelievable defensive player on a way below market
34:19
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34:23
Speaker 3: they'll now be able to go to, cause every team
34:26
Speaker 3: in the league has a good player that, on a,
34:28
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34:31
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34:34
Speaker 3: They'll just be able to go pluck those guys from
34:36
Speaker 3: other teams and say, we'll give you a first round pick.
34:38
Speaker 3: We'll give you this guy. We'll give you that guy.
34:41
Speaker 3: So people are like, Oh, they're going to lose case
34:43
Speaker 3: in Wallace or Lou Dort. They'll find the next one.
34:46
Speaker 3: That's just how they are right now.
34:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. And then they get, then they're, they're
34:52
Speaker 2: going to get San Antonio.
34:53
Speaker 3: Like, well, and that, and listen, that's, that's the thing. Like,
34:56
Speaker 3: if San Antonio was in the East, it would feel
35:00
Speaker 3: like we were going to get, and it would obviously
35:03
Speaker 3: not for the league be Laker Celtics in terms of
35:05
Speaker 3: like market size and historical, but it would feel like
35:08
Speaker 3: we were going to get Wemby against the thunder in
35:13
Speaker 3: the finals four of the next six years. And like
35:18
Speaker 3: actually like get like a great finals rivalry. And now
35:20
Speaker 3: it just feels like the Western conference finals is going
35:22
Speaker 3: to be the NBA finals.
35:24
Speaker 2: Yeah. Every year. Every stinking year, this is what it's
35:30
Speaker 2: going to be. But I want to ask you this.
35:31
Speaker 1: We're going into Denver, Minnesota. I still think Denver should
35:38
Speaker 1: win this series. I think Denver will win this series
35:40
Speaker 1: at this point if they don't.
35:43
Speaker 2: Damn, hands got to roll, right? Like, it's a great
35:45
Speaker 2: set of game sixes.
35:46
Speaker 1: Like, we didn't even get to Knicks-Hawks where, I mean,
35:48
Speaker 1: the Knicks are getting to play home games everywhere they go.
35:51
Speaker 2: That can't hurt.
35:52
Speaker 1: But I think it will be very interesting to see
35:55
Speaker 1: what happens if Denver does not pull this off.
35:57
Speaker 2: Like, this is one where if.
35:58
Speaker 1: Jokic is, I know Jokic is not physically well, but
36:02
Speaker 1: you got to go out there.
36:03
Speaker 2: And do like 35, 18, and 11, right?
36:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was real good in the last game. And.
36:12
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
36:13
Speaker 3: I think you lose Ant and DiVincenzo. I can't imagine
36:19
Speaker 3: Minnesota having enough to win that series. And I love
36:24
Speaker 3: what Gobert is doing in terms of he's taking it
36:27
Speaker 3: very personally that he wasn't a finalist for Defensive Player
36:30
Speaker 3: of the Year. And he's just like, I am built
36:33
Speaker 3: to guard Jokic and give him trouble that no one
36:35
Speaker 3: else really has been able to do. So they're going
36:38
Speaker 3: to go down with the fight. But I do think
36:40
Speaker 3: Denver gets out of it. And it's weird, man. We've
36:43
Speaker 3: talked about it before. We're like, life comes at you fast.
36:45
Speaker 3: I was going into these finals thinking, is this Denver
36:48
Speaker 3: team actually arguably better than the team that won the title?
36:53
Speaker 3: With how Jamal Murray was playing, with Aaron Gordon's health,
36:57
Speaker 3: and Minnesota's a terrible matchup for them. Christian Brown's been awful.
37:02
Speaker 3: Jokic was inefficient, which is really weird for him early
37:05
Speaker 3: in the series. So I think that heads would roll,
37:08
Speaker 3: so to speak. For Denver, it'd be embarrassing and we'd
37:11
Speaker 3: knock on Jokic. But the one that would be mortifying
37:14
Speaker 3: is the Knicks. And I know they're up 3-2 now,
37:16
Speaker 3: so they're probably fine. But I don't even... You firing
37:20
Speaker 3: Mike Brown one year after you fire Tibbs? Or are
37:22
Speaker 3: you just trading Carl Anthony Towns, even though he's been
37:25
Speaker 3: awesome when you've given him the ball in this series?
37:27
Speaker 3: What are you doing if the Hawks actually steal this thing?
37:32
Speaker 1: So let me run this by you as it relates
37:36
Speaker 1: to Jalen Brunson.
37:39
Speaker 3: Okay.
37:39
Speaker 2: And I'm just curious your thought here.
37:44
Speaker 1: One thing you have to be careful about is I
37:47
Speaker 1: talk about it as hiring the interim coach.
37:50
Speaker 3: Right.
37:52
Speaker 1: So you have a good run with the coach that
37:54
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be your coach. But is that guy
37:56
Speaker 1: the guy you're supposed to hire as your coach?
37:58
Speaker 3: Right.
37:58
Speaker 2: Like, do you hire the interim coach?
38:01
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody expected Jalen Brunson to be the
38:03
Speaker 1: player that he proved to be with the historical significance
38:07
Speaker 1: that this team had.
38:08
Speaker 3: Right.
38:10
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't think that happened. I don't think
38:12
Speaker 1: it ever happened before.
38:13
Speaker 2: Okay. But he's not supposed to be your number one guy.
38:18
Speaker 2: I think we'd agree on that.
38:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.
38:21
Speaker 3: Listen, I, I, I don't, I don't think this next
38:24
Speaker 3: team can win. Like I think they are a, It's
38:26
Speaker 3: a flawed team that eventually will get exposed, but they're
38:30
Speaker 3: so beloved and he signed that below market value deal
38:33
Speaker 3: that I cannot see a world, if you're going down
38:36
Speaker 3: the world of like move off of Jalen Brunson.
38:39
Speaker 2: Right, and that's what I'm saying.
38:40
Speaker 3: I think that ship has sailed.
38:42
Speaker 2: He's the most beloved player they've had since Patrick Ewing.
38:45
Speaker 3: Correct.
38:45
Speaker 1: But he's a 6'2 guard and can that guy be
38:48
Speaker 1: the guy that is the guy? But the guy that
38:51
Speaker 1: should be the guy has demonstrated to us that he can't.
38:54
Speaker 2: Be the guy.
38:55
Speaker 3: Yep.
38:56
Speaker 2: Right, and that's Carl Towns.
38:57
Speaker 3: Yep.
38:58
Speaker 1: They're in a weird place, right? They got to get
39:00
Speaker 1: Mikael Bridges out of there. That is officially an unsustainable
39:03
Speaker 1: situation with him. You can't have that guy keep playing
39:06
Speaker 1: for your.
39:06
Speaker 2: Team in New York.
39:07
Speaker 3: Bo, his contract extension starts next year. Yeah. I mean,
39:13
Speaker 3: like you gave him five first round picks and then
39:16
Speaker 3: the gave him the deal. The deal starts. Like who
39:19
Speaker 3: is trading for bridges? Right. Like I just, that one
39:23
Speaker 3: is to me, that, that is, that is untradeable. um
39:28
Speaker 3: towns towns i gotta give him credit he's been really
39:33
Speaker 3: good like yes he he has been good and he
39:36
Speaker 3: has been trying on defense and like he has been
39:39
Speaker 3: there was a great line back in the day uh
39:41
Speaker 3: in the post jordan bulls era when they drafted Eddie
39:45
Speaker 3: Curry and Tyson Chandler, and Scott Skiles was the coach,
39:48
Speaker 3: and a Chicago reporter asked Scott Skiles, what could we
39:51
Speaker 3: do to improve Eddie Curry's rebounding? And he said, jump.
39:56
Speaker 3: It's like Carl Anthony Towns is jumping. He's playing a
40:00
Speaker 3: little bit more like a seven-footer, and it's been nice
40:02
Speaker 3: to see. But I still think with Brunson and Towns
40:06
Speaker 3: on the court as much as they need to be
40:08
Speaker 3: on the court, that there is a ceiling on that
40:10
Speaker 3: team as presently constructed. You could trade Josh Hart, but
40:14
Speaker 3: Josh Hart's really good. You could trade O.G. Onobi, but
40:17
Speaker 3: he's really good in his role. I think the answer
40:19
Speaker 3: is you trade Towns.
40:22
Speaker 2: What can you get for him, though? I don't know.
40:27
Speaker 2: I've said this many times on this show. People have
40:29
Speaker 2: heard me.
40:30
Speaker 1: I felt like in that trade with Minnesota and New York,
40:32
Speaker 1: each team traded a guy that they thought you can't
40:34
Speaker 1: win with to get a guy that they're like, maybe
40:37
Speaker 1: it'll be different here.
40:39
Speaker 3: Correct.
40:40
Speaker 1: But I think Carl's about to make, he's making $ 60
40:44
Speaker 1: million a year too.
40:45
Speaker 2: Like there's that, there's that next, like there's, there's.
40:47
Speaker 1: A lot going on there and you are right. If
40:49
Speaker 1: they don't win this series, they are up three, two,
40:52
Speaker 1: they should win this.
40:52
Speaker 3: They should win.
40:54
Speaker 2: If they don't though, it's going to get weird.
40:56
Speaker 1: And then if they do win it, they got a
40:58
Speaker 1: good chance against Boston.
40:59
Speaker 2: Like that Boston. Hey man, that Boston, New York series.
41:02
Speaker 1: Me and you might have to jump in the car
41:04
Speaker 1: and go to Boston to go check out one of
41:05
Speaker 1: them guys.
41:06
Speaker 2: There's two especially to go here.
41:08
Speaker 3: Dude, the, The tickets at Madison Square Garden are offensive.
41:12
Speaker 4: Yes.
41:13
Speaker 3: I can't believe it, but I would love to go
41:16
Speaker 3: to Boston to go to one of those games with you.
41:18
Speaker 3: And as we just kind of bounce around the NBA,
41:20
Speaker 3: which I love, the Celtics are my least favorite team
41:25
Speaker 3: to watch. Game two, they took 53s and made 13
41:32
Speaker 3: of them. There should be some sort of shame or
41:36
Speaker 3: relegation or punishment. It's one thing when Steph Curry, Klay Thompson,
41:40
Speaker 3: and Kevin Durant were doing it. You're three of the
41:42
Speaker 3: five greatest shooters in the history of the damn sport.
41:46
Speaker 3: You have Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. You're shooting 26%
41:51
Speaker 3: from three. Get fouled. Go to the rim. And it's just,
41:59
Speaker 3: I hate watching them, and it gets rewarding. People talk
42:02
Speaker 3: more like stylistically and complain more stylistically about the thunder.
42:06
Speaker 3: And I get people don't like flopping, but Luca does it.
42:10
Speaker 3: Brunson does it. It, that is like a, at least
42:13
Speaker 3: they are driving to the basket. Like the, the, the
42:17
Speaker 3: Celtics six out of 10 shots or four. I think it's,
42:22
Speaker 3: I think 40% of their shots come in the paint
42:24
Speaker 3: by far the lowest in the league.
42:26
Speaker 2: It's like, it's, It's not basketball. I hate it.
42:30
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't like the way I
42:32
Speaker 1: love Joe Missoula. I do not like the way that
42:34
Speaker 1: he coaches basketball, right?
42:35
Speaker 3: Well, but so the right, but then like, how much
42:37
Speaker 3: can we love Joe Missoula when you lost to the
42:39
Speaker 3: Knicks because you went cold from three and you were like,
42:42
Speaker 3: this is just what we do. And now you're here
42:45
Speaker 3: playing with your food against the less talented team in Atlanta.
42:49
Speaker 3: And when you go cold from three, it extends the series,
42:52
Speaker 3: which damages your ability to go win a title. Like
42:54
Speaker 3: you're a great coach. Don't let them play with your food.
42:57
Speaker 3: Go get fouled.
42:58
Speaker 1: Remember when I said that sometimes you're a fan of
43:00
Speaker 1: people when they don't always do the winning thing?
43:02
Speaker 2: You know, like that.
43:03
Speaker 3: No, Brazula's a psycho.
43:05
Speaker 2: He's such a psycho.
43:06
Speaker 1: I'm a big Russell Westbrook fan, right?
43:08
Speaker 2: Like, I love the guy. We all have our guys, like,
43:12
Speaker 2: here and there that we choose.
43:13
Speaker 1: I think the thing with Oklahoma City is it's one
43:16
Speaker 1: thing to flop on that end. It's on the other
43:18
Speaker 1: end where Lou Dort is out here playing left tackle,
43:21
Speaker 1: and you boys are just out here, like, roughing people up.
43:24
Speaker 1: I think that's the part. Like, the thing with the–
43:26
Speaker 1: you know what the Thunder make me– the thunder make
43:30
Speaker 1: me think that somebody need to give them a free
43:34
Speaker 1: idea here and maybe not everybody can pull this off
43:39
Speaker 1: but if you could get you some artificial intelligence you
43:41
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that like redoes videos and stuff
43:44
Speaker 1: and basically do some sort of parody of Matthew McConaughey
43:48
Speaker 1: in a time to kill where he gets to talk
43:50
Speaker 1: about what happened and then he ends it.
43:52
Speaker 2: With now imagine they were white.
43:56
Speaker 1: Just imagine you just have 15 white boys flopping and
44:00
Speaker 1: hacking all the goddamn time.
44:01
Speaker 2: Wouldn't nobody abide by this. Everybody would be down on it, right?
44:06
Speaker 2: You know what? They play like Duke.
44:09
Speaker 1: They play like old-fashioned Duke, getting all the calls and
44:13
Speaker 1: playing defense with their hands. That's what they do.
44:17
Speaker 2: That's where it gets a little tricky with them.
44:20
Speaker 3: I can't defend the Lou Dortz stuff. I can't, I can't.
44:23
Speaker 3: You're right. Yeah, like that's... No, I can't defend the
44:27
Speaker 3: Lou Doerr stuff. And I never would try to. You know,
44:30
Speaker 3: it is, of course, it's in the Dylan Brooks, Draymond Green,
44:34
Speaker 3: and those guys.
44:35
Speaker 2: But at least Dylan Brooks got a personality to it.
44:37
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, the game needs a
44:39
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks. Yeah, Lou Doerr.
44:41
Speaker 3: Does have a tendency to hip-check Jokic when he's running
44:46
Speaker 3: up the court in the backcourt and then be like, what, who?
44:49
Speaker 3: What happened? What are you talking about? It's like, nah, just...
44:51
Speaker 3: Just own it. Just own it. Yeah.
44:54
Speaker 2: They're so good, though.
44:56
Speaker 1: If we get there. Like, we were talking about being sleepy.
45:00
Speaker 1: And I just want to mention something. I think this
45:01
Speaker 1: is a subtle thing, a subtle change with the NBA
45:03
Speaker 1: rights deal. I meant to mention earlier, but I'm going
45:05
Speaker 1: to just throw out here and see what you think
45:06
Speaker 1: about this.
45:07
Speaker 2: All right.
45:09
Speaker 1: Having these games on NBC means that games that may
45:13
Speaker 1: have started at 7.30 now start at 8. Because NBC
45:19
Speaker 1: doesn't get to remote Until 8 o'clock, which means I
45:23
Speaker 1: feel like we get some of these games that used
45:25
Speaker 1: to maybe be like 9.30, 10 o'clock tips, something like that.
45:29
Speaker 1: They now them 10.30 tips. And the 10.30 tip, that's.
45:34
Speaker 3: Rough, man.
45:35
Speaker 2: That's rough.
45:36
Speaker 1: It's helping the NBA goose them numbers because they get
45:39
Speaker 1: to go over the air for the NBC.
45:41
Speaker 2: Games, man.
45:42
Speaker 1: But it's a tough go with them 10.30s.
45:46
Speaker 3: 10.30 Eastern announced start. It's just... I'm like in a
45:50
Speaker 3: bad mood leading up to it. I'm like, okay, all right.
45:55
Speaker 3: My kids go to sleep like 8, 8.15, whatever. I'm like,
46:00
Speaker 3: I know, like clockwork, 6.45 a.m., running into the room.
46:07
Speaker 2: Daddy, I want pancakes.
46:09
Speaker 3: I want eggs. I'm like, all right. Daddy was up
46:12
Speaker 3: late watching LeBron. So every day. Uh, and I do
46:18
Speaker 3: work through the afternoon show, so there's no naps in
46:20
Speaker 3: my life anymore. It's very, I've got a hard life though.
46:24
Speaker 3: I've got a, I've got a real hard life doing
46:26
Speaker 3: this one hour a day television show. You know, I
46:28
Speaker 3: want people to feel badly for me. How's it going?
46:31
Speaker 1: It's not too late, by the way, for you to
46:33
Speaker 1: teach your kids, um, a very important phrase. When they
46:37
Speaker 1: say they want pancakes, they want eggs.
46:40
Speaker 2: People in hell want ice water.
46:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.
46:44
Speaker 2: You ever thought about running that one by them little jokers?
46:46
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
46:47
Speaker 3: I don't know how the six-year-olds may be approaching understanding.
46:53
Speaker 3: I don't know how four-year-old Eli would just be like, okay,
46:56
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to make my own cereal.
46:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair.
46:59
Speaker 3: I got to keep the four-year-old alive, I've been told.
47:03
Speaker 3: But I will say, Steph, the wife, and I, we
47:06
Speaker 3: have Saturday morning cartoons. I get why they've been a
47:12
Speaker 3: thing for generations. Yep.
47:15
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
47:15
Speaker 3: Like, man, I now get it. Date night with the
47:22
Speaker 3: wife on a Friday night, wake up.
47:24
Speaker 2: You know what?
47:25
Speaker 3: Why don't we just give you guys 30 minutes? Just
47:28
Speaker 3: a little 30-minute snooze for mom and dad to ease
47:32
Speaker 3: into our weekends.
47:33
Speaker 1: You just sitting them down, put that bowl in front
47:37
Speaker 1: of them.
47:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Here's a yogurt. here's a, here's a show.
47:44
Speaker 3: And I don't think this is a, this isn't neglect
47:48
Speaker 3: unless I get led to get to like nine o'clock.
47:52
Speaker 3: I don't think it's neglect for, I think that's, I
47:54
Speaker 3: think that's the amount that I give myself.
47:56
Speaker 2: I see the vision. I do. I do see the vision. Um,
48:01
Speaker 2: I do.
48:01
Speaker 1: You think Philadelphia has any chance at all? Are you
48:03
Speaker 1: just thinking that Boston just, we're just going to have
48:05
Speaker 1: a game or two of this with Boston where they're
48:07
Speaker 1: just not going to make any shots.
48:08
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:08
Speaker 2: That's what I think.
48:09
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is. Uh, our research staff put
48:12
Speaker 3: the graphic up on the show the other day. It
48:14
Speaker 3: was like last five years or three years, whatever it was,
48:20
Speaker 3: the timeframe was short period of time. Win loss record,
48:25
Speaker 3: just straight up in the playoffs for teams that went
48:28
Speaker 3: into games as a 10 or more point favorite. Boston
48:32
Speaker 3: was nine and seven. The rest of the league is
48:35
Speaker 3: 16 and four. So like if you're a double digit favorite,
48:39
Speaker 3: you're supposed to win the game outright. But Boston, so talented,
48:43
Speaker 3: the rest of the league's only been that big of
48:45
Speaker 3: a favorite 20 times total. They've been that big of
48:47
Speaker 3: a favorite 16 times, but they only win nine of them.
48:51
Speaker 3: Because when you shoot that many threes, there's just variance.
48:54
Speaker 3: You're going to go cold. You're going to have a
48:56
Speaker 3: night where you miss. And so they'll probably go to
48:59
Speaker 3: Philly and shoot 40% from three and win the game
49:03
Speaker 3: by double digits because they're wildly talented. But again, you
49:07
Speaker 3: play around with your food. anything can happen that even
49:10
Speaker 3: if you get by Philly, it's still an extra flight,
49:13
Speaker 3: albeit a short one. It's still an extra game. It's
49:16
Speaker 3: still an opportunity for someone to roll their ankle. So, yeah,
49:20
Speaker 3: I do think Boston will get it done and they'll
49:22
Speaker 3: get to that series with the Knicks, but they should
49:27
Speaker 3: be just much better at extinguishing these series than they are,
49:33
Speaker 3: but you want the variance in the games when you're
49:36
Speaker 3: playing teams that are better than you. or when you're
49:39
Speaker 3: down 15 at half. You don't need the variance against
49:42
Speaker 3: the Sixers.
49:45
Speaker 1: I think something is easy for us to forget about
49:47
Speaker 1: the Celtics and forget about the Tatum part. And I
49:50
Speaker 1: include me in this. This is not the same team
49:53
Speaker 1: of 2024. Like the 2024 team, one, this does not
49:58
Speaker 1: appear to be the same Derek White.
50:00
Speaker 3: Well, he's really struggling. No doubt about that.
50:03
Speaker 2: I think that part is important. I think.
50:05
Speaker 1: By the time the finals got around, they had healthy Porzingis.
50:08
Speaker 1: And healthy Porzingis is a different caliber of player than
50:12
Speaker 1: Vucevic inside. There's a different range of things that he's
50:16
Speaker 1: going to provide you.
50:17
Speaker 2: They out there starting, what's his name? Keita? Cueta? Whatever,
50:20
Speaker 2: how you say that?
50:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, Keita, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Who? What?
50:24
Speaker 2: No, he wanted to do is because the Celtics ain't
50:25
Speaker 2: got that many numbers that they got to give him
50:27
Speaker 2: like a, like, like a, like a, like a quarterback
50:29
Speaker 2: number is like 29 or some shit like that.
50:32
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that, that, that is, they're, they're not as
50:35
Speaker 3: good as the, but they were the two seed in
50:38
Speaker 3: the East and Jalen Brown's going to be first team
50:41
Speaker 3: all NBA. And then they got Tatum back. Like, so
50:46
Speaker 3: in the Eastern conference, this is the amazing thing about Boston.
50:50
Speaker 3: Detroit has one guy who can facilitate his own offense.
50:54
Speaker 3: Cleveland has a group of players who, as discussed, you
50:58
Speaker 3: don't really trust to get it done. Who am I forgetting?
51:04
Speaker 3: Who's the other time? Oh, and then the Knicks, as discussed.
51:08
Speaker 3: An oddly constructed basketball team with a lot of external
51:11
Speaker 3: factors going on. In a year where Jason Tatum missed
51:15
Speaker 3: basically the entire season with the ruptured Achilles, it will
51:19
Speaker 3: be worthy to criticize them if they don't make it
51:23
Speaker 3: out of the East. They should make it out of
51:25
Speaker 3: the East. Do you disagree?
51:29
Speaker 4: Should.
51:29
Speaker 3: Yes.
51:29
Speaker 2: Like bosses by my pick. Right.
51:32
Speaker 3: And so like, so I think that's why, but, but
51:36
Speaker 3: normally it's like, Oh, you lost your best player to
51:38
Speaker 3: an Achilles. You're not as good as your title team. Like,
51:41
Speaker 3: all right. You're not going to catch much heat if
51:44
Speaker 3: you lose, but because of how flawed the other teams
51:47
Speaker 3: are in the East, I do think that they would
51:50
Speaker 3: catch a decent amount of heat for blowing this thing.
51:53
Speaker 2: And I, I, The East feels more and more like
51:55
Speaker 2: the JV bracket every day.
51:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
51:58
Speaker 2: Every day.
51:58
Speaker 1: And it's weird because we have a team that won
52:01
Speaker 1: a championship two years ago who Jalen Brown has elevated him.
52:05
Speaker 1: He has been excellent without Tatum being there. The Pistons, hey, man,
52:10
Speaker 1: we have a team like this every couple years, right?
52:12
Speaker 2: We've seen this. But the Knicks... the Knicks, why not? Right.
52:16
Speaker 1: But I think what makes it bad for the Knicks
52:18
Speaker 1: and what's got to stink for all those teams in
52:20
Speaker 1: the East is that we look at Adam and saying,
52:22
Speaker 1: you should win the East.
52:23
Speaker 2: Cause the answer is why not? You know what I mean?
52:27
Speaker 2: Like I don't have, I don't have a compelling why
52:28
Speaker 2: not for the Knicks.
52:31
Speaker 3: Yeah. Listen, you made it to the Eastern conference finals
52:34
Speaker 3: last year and you fired your coach. So it was
52:36
Speaker 3: been James Dolan went on the radio and said it
52:38
Speaker 3: was a finals team. It was like, okay, well then
52:40
Speaker 3: I guess you got to be a finals team or
52:41
Speaker 3: else it's a failure. Um, And they've been better defensively
52:49
Speaker 3: than I thought they were capable of being with Brunson
52:52
Speaker 3: and Towns playing as many minutes as they do. So
52:54
Speaker 3: I guess they can do it. I still got to
52:58
Speaker 3: see it to believe it because Jalen Brunson goes cold.
53:03
Speaker 3: I don't know what their next pivot is. Carl Anthony
53:05
Speaker 3: Towns took seven shots in that last game against the Hawks.
53:08
Speaker 2: Crazy to me. He should be scoring 30 a game.
53:10
Speaker 3: Well, they got to give him the damn ball too.
53:12
Speaker 2: Right, I'm not even blaming him this time.
53:14
Speaker 3: Right, this time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so it's just like,
53:18
Speaker 3: I just, I don't trust them. You know, like I just,
53:21
Speaker 3: I do not trust them to not get in their
53:23
Speaker 3: own way, lay an egg, forget that Carl Anthony Towns
53:27
Speaker 3: is seven feet. Like just, until proven otherwise, I just
53:30
Speaker 3: do not trust that basketball team.
53:32
Speaker 1: All right, before we go, my man Danny Park has
53:35
Speaker 1: got a big event coming up that I want to
53:36
Speaker 1: make sure you guys know about.
53:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, thank you. It's a passion project of mine
53:44
Speaker 3: that I work very hard on. My brother Brad, three
53:48
Speaker 3: years ago this April, passed away from glioblastoma, which is
53:52
Speaker 3: terminal brain cancer. It's brain cancer without a cure. And,
53:56
Speaker 3: you know, it really shook me up. But I, my
54:00
Speaker 3: radio background, I've always thought we get to kind of
54:02
Speaker 3: play in the toy department with these jobs. I like
54:05
Speaker 3: using the platform for some good some of the time.
54:08
Speaker 3: And so I had kind of done this radiothon where
54:10
Speaker 3: I broadcast for 24 hours to fund the construction of
54:15
Speaker 3: a grocery store on the west side of Chicago. We'd
54:17
Speaker 3: talked about it in the past called Austin Harvest. And
54:21
Speaker 3: after my brother got diagnosed, I kind of wanted to
54:23
Speaker 3: pivot it in his honor and raise money for cancer research.
54:28
Speaker 3: And so the Chicago Cubs, who I'm very tight with,
54:31
Speaker 3: top to bottom of that organization, they said, the president said,
54:35
Speaker 3: what if we combine your radiothon and my ballpark? And
54:38
Speaker 3: we do this big weekend long fundraiser. So May 21st,
54:43
Speaker 3: I will go back to the score in Chicago, top
54:46
Speaker 3: ranked radio station there and simulcast on the marquee network,
54:49
Speaker 3: which is the Cubs regional sports network. I'll broadcast for
54:53
Speaker 3: 24 hours. I will bring on athletes, celebrities, doctors, and
54:57
Speaker 3: then just normal patients. And people will tell their cancer
55:00
Speaker 3: stories there. high net worth individuals and companies, sponsor hours
55:05
Speaker 3: for like dollar for dollar matches. So you're like, ah,
55:06
Speaker 3: what's my 10 bucks gonna do? We have companies that
55:09
Speaker 3: will double and triple your donations every hour of the broadcast.
55:14
Speaker 3: And then people can also donate tickets, memorabilia, experiences that
55:19
Speaker 3: we call them donation incentives, but basically that you can
55:21
Speaker 3: make a donation and auction off and kind of get
55:23
Speaker 3: a prize on the backend. And I'm really proud of
55:27
Speaker 3: it because everybody who works on it, we all have
55:30
Speaker 3: other jobs. And the Cubs cover the cost of the
55:33
Speaker 3: fulfillment of like mailing out the autographed baseballs and whatnot.
55:36
Speaker 3: So you've been involved in charities. I've been involved in charities.
55:40
Speaker 3: Sometimes you go to one of these galas and they
55:42
Speaker 3: raise a bunch of money, but then you look around
55:44
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, you're drinking top shelf liquor and
55:46
Speaker 3: you're eating steak and there's a band over there. Right.
55:49
Speaker 3: And there's a ton of costs going into it. We
55:51
Speaker 3: raised $ 750, 540 last year. And at the end, after all
55:52
Speaker 3: the accounting, the Cubs Wired, the brain cancer charity that
56:01
Speaker 3: I'm on the board of directors of, Brain Up, $ 750, 540.
56:06
Speaker 3: So 100% of the donations go to research. And I'm
56:11
Speaker 3: really proud of it. Cubsforacure.com is where you can donate.
56:16
Speaker 3: But in the lead up to the Radiothon, if you're like, hey,
56:18
Speaker 3: I'd like to sponsor something or send you some tickets
56:21
Speaker 3: to something or whatever the case may be, my DMs
56:24
Speaker 3: are open on Instagram and Twitter. And thank you for
56:27
Speaker 3: letting me plug it, man.
56:28
Speaker 2: No, no problem, man. And again, a moment to send
56:30
Speaker 2: a shout out to my buddy Michael Smith.
56:31
Speaker 1: As some of you know, he lost his wife in
56:34
Speaker 1: December from this same form of cancer. So my relationship
56:40
Speaker 1: with Mike and seeing what this particular cancer, what all
56:43
Speaker 1: this does to people, it was a very moving and
56:45
Speaker 1: jarring sort of thing for me personally.
56:47
Speaker 2: So any support?
56:48
Speaker 1: That you can give, I'll definitely be looking to do
56:50
Speaker 1: something to help you out as the time approaches. So
56:52
Speaker 1: I thank you for doing this, you know, more importantly,
56:55
Speaker 1: and it's my pleasure to be able to, you know,
56:57
Speaker 1: help you get the word out a little bit.
56:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
56:59
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. And you introduced me to Mike
57:02
Speaker 3: and he's going to, he's going to come on. He's
57:03
Speaker 3: going to come on the Radiothon broadcast on May, on
57:05
Speaker 3: May 21st. And yeah, man. So I really, I really
57:09
Speaker 3: appreciate it, bro. All right.
57:10
Speaker 2: No problem, man. Danny Parkins, check him out. First things first,
57:14
Speaker 2: five o'clock Eastern on FS1. My man, I appreciate you.
57:18
Speaker 3: Always a good time, man. Thank you.
57:20
Speaker 2: All right, no problem.
57:20
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