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Episode 279: Miller's Crossing (SG-A 4.09) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's horrible. That's that's unpleasant. I don't like that
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Speaker 1: at all.
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Speaker 2: All Right, some context, it's now very official getting into
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Speaker 2: the building where we record, and we have to sign
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Speaker 2: visitors in. Now I work here, so I don't have
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Speaker 2: to sign myself in as a visitor obviously, but for
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Speaker 2: the first time ever, and which is what twelve years
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Speaker 2: and more context, you used to work in this very building,
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Speaker 2: but so now that you're not an employee, you have
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Speaker 2: to sign it as a visitor. Still too soon. Still,
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Speaker 2: and you've just received the photo that the iPad took
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Speaker 2: of you as you signed it.
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Speaker 1: From naval level. It was where they have the iPad
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Speaker 1: looking straight up, so it's very full. Chin, it's all chin. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And then yes, I signed in s I n E.
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Speaker 1: Is the app that I get it from.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can see what they were going for, but yeah,
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Speaker 2: it had it. Get it Agate episode two hundred and
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Speaker 2: seventy nine, talking about Stargate Atlantis, season four, episode nine,
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Speaker 2: a little bit of Miller's crossing. We'll get into that.
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Speaker 2: I'm Mitch obviously, I don't know obvious, but I'm the
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Speaker 2: one that always does this at the start, and then
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Speaker 2: you're Maddie.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it must be easy if people now,
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Speaker 1: because wasn't it always people couldn't tell which one was
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Speaker 1: you and which one was Brandan.
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Speaker 2: Which I could never get me too, Like Brendan's got
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Speaker 2: like such a deeper voice than like I'm jealous at
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Speaker 2: how deep his voice is compared to mine.
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Speaker 1: Well, and he's so dead pan as well. Well sure,
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Speaker 1: you know, but even just like compared to you at least.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like, you know, you know, I
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Speaker 2: feel like the room does that a lot too, because
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Speaker 2: there's nothing going on here except for three people talking
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Speaker 2: to each other in absolute otherwise silence. But even just
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Speaker 2: like kicking it back and seeing him on a weekend
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Speaker 2: or something like that, you know, he's got a deeper voice.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I love that. I mean, it's mine's very
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Speaker 2: nasily and I hate this out of my own voice,
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Speaker 2: So you know, I would love a I'd love a
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Speaker 2: deep voice. But at the same time, I'm like, if
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Speaker 2: something means confuses.
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Speaker 1: You say that we're in the room with some and
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Speaker 1: calls themselves high pitch Maddie.
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Speaker 2: Sure, but there's a clear distinction, you know, like there's
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Speaker 2: one thing to be maybe have a high pitch and
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Speaker 2: another one to go, are you sick? Are you sick?
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Speaker 1: I sound really congested. You're like, no, that's just it's
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Speaker 1: just me.
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Speaker 2: Like I had rhinoplasty, I had polyps taken out, I
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Speaker 2: had like three different surgeries done on my nose like
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Speaker 2: seven years ago, and I was so excited that once
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Speaker 2: it all cleared up that maybe I would sound less nasily.
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Speaker 2: And then I think people thought that I was setting
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Speaker 2: myself up to sound bad. So as I'm saying that,
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Speaker 2: more and more people, oh, you don't sound any different,
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Speaker 2: thinking they were doing me.
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Speaker 1: Ah.
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Speaker 2: I think there was a big difference.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, if you go back and listen to
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Speaker 1: you from like, you know, two thousand and nine, very different.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah definitely. But I think that's just
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Speaker 2: an age thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be because.
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Speaker 2: I think i've even at the start of this pod.
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Speaker 2: Oh when did I get it done? Yeah, probably seven
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Speaker 2: or eight years ago, so we started the pod before
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Speaker 2: I had it done. Anyway'm gonna I'm going to actually
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Speaker 2: rebook in to get something done all over again at
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Speaker 2: the end of the year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for anyone just said he's got to get the
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Speaker 1: old deviated septum surgery or whatever.
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Speaker 2: That was one of my things through sleep Appy. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I've had that big test where they sort of put
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Speaker 2: all the cables and the pads on your head and
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Speaker 2: they scan you during your sleep and they're like you
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Speaker 2: sleep like shit, and I know, like, thanks for coming,
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Speaker 2: thanks for turning the equipment.
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Speaker 1: They put me in the big the big machine where
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Speaker 1: they you know, the cat scan machine with the oh
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Speaker 1: really like that to check all my sinus and something. Nah,
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Speaker 1: you're just fat, that's you just snore. You don't have sleep,
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Speaker 1: app you just snore a lot because you're fat. Jesus
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Speaker 1: the White Fatty And like, okay, great, thanks thanks to
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Speaker 1: charge me to put me in the machine. Dearhad love
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Speaker 1: it even I can't remember which movie it cost me
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Speaker 1: that night when I got when I got hooked up
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Speaker 1: my GP.
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Speaker 2: He's a good gpoo, my GP. He's a good friend
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Speaker 2: of mine, and hooked me up with the machine, put
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Speaker 2: all the pads on. I sort of like in a
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Speaker 2: walk out to the car and I'm all hooked up and.
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Speaker 1: I thought, damn machine was in his basement, wasn't that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I had a movie premiere on that night.
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Speaker 2: I feel like maybe it was superhero esque pretty good bet,
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Speaker 2: And so it would have been not only because it
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Speaker 2: was very on theme that if I would have shown
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Speaker 2: up with like all these weird cables coming out of
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Speaker 2: my head going into a box that I'm wearing on
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Speaker 2: my belt or something, and you know, get around, I
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Speaker 2: goes go, you know, it would have been like the
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Speaker 2: baby Yeah, exactly twenty twelve, but I had that going
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Speaker 2: on anyway. That's got nothing to do with Stargates Miller's crossing. Now,
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Speaker 2: when you tease this last week, Miller, I'm like, hang on, McCay,
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Speaker 2: missus Miller.
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Speaker 1: Did I make the joke? It just occurred to me. Now,
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Speaker 1: did I make the joke that I should have said?
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Speaker 1: It was an episode about maybe one of the Miller's
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Speaker 1: cross dressing would have been.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you did. Then again, I don't
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Speaker 2: think you really have to say cross dressing anymore. No,
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Speaker 2: there's I think there's there's more twenty twenty five names
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Speaker 2: so that I don't know what it is, but whatever
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Speaker 2: it is, we accept it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good on non binos and non non beanie babies.
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Speaker 2: A few people on our Patreon DM just to say
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Speaker 2: loved it. Yep, love some gear. Firstly, Dame I heard
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Speaker 2: was he loved the Tino fasor mala awe. Gay I
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Speaker 2: didn't that.
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Speaker 1: Well, that went straight over my head. Yah, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: don't think I. I don't think I did it. That
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Speaker 1: was the first time he brought it back.
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Speaker 2: You're like it's You're like your brain's like pre listening
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Speaker 2: to it before it like your ears are like, you know,
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Speaker 2: safe guarding. It sounds like a Rugby League reference. Don't
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Speaker 2: even push you through to the brain.
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Speaker 1: Nah. Nah, in one you're out the other absolutely in
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Speaker 1: one day out the other. In that mouth came because
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Speaker 1: that's the only key we word I know.
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Speaker 2: Bless you. Yeah. Yeah, Miller's crossing nothing to do with
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Speaker 2: anything we were just talking about. After helping her brother
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Speaker 2: Mackay with replicator coding, his sister Jeanie is kidnapped, prompting
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Speaker 2: Makay to travel to Earth, where he too suddenly goes missing.
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Speaker 2: Written by our favorite Martin Martin Guerro and directed by
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Speaker 2: Andy M. Michaida. Yeah, oh he's a great guy. Love match.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think? I think that might actually
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Speaker 1: be Anyekeia Machida in the background, Taylor.
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Speaker 2: Very good, very good connection. Yeah, this was obviously very
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Speaker 2: different because you know, we pre credits, we throw back
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Speaker 2: to Tu Ginnie and like you know, Black Ops Team
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Speaker 2: bust In and just like scare.
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Speaker 1: The shit out of appearing to some kinky stuff.
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Speaker 2: I had some serious role play going, especially when she
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Speaker 2: wakes up and looks at the husband and he's like,
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Speaker 2: I heard something. I'll go check it out, Like what
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Speaker 2: just now you heard it? Because it looks like you've
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Speaker 2: been up for a while. It's like he's waiting for
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Speaker 2: his queue. Yeah, he goes up. Oh no, I'm being punished.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, I've fallen onto the chair. Oh no, I
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Speaker 1: can't get up.
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Speaker 2: One of their black masks has fallen into my head.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, there's a ballgag ind here for some reason.
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Speaker 2: And then yeah, post opening credits and McKay Shepherd and
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Speaker 2: most importantly Ronan arrive at the SGC and I kind
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Speaker 2: of had to rewind it because I wasn't listening to
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Speaker 2: any of the dialogue with old mate that's been in
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Speaker 2: love with Carter for ten years. I was just thinking,
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Speaker 2: holy shit, we are at the SGC. Ronan's on Earth.
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Speaker 2: Ronan's on Earth for the first time, well the.
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Speaker 1: First time to be seen that.
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Speaker 2: Ah, that's true. Because what was the already there what
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Speaker 2: we just sort of heard in passing that he'd yeah.
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Speaker 1: But also obviously when All Make Bear Care died, Ronan
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Speaker 1: was one of the pall bearers who walked his caskets. Okay, okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: So he's his first time off base, like he's definitely
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Speaker 1: been to the STC before, but real quicker than Tilk absolutely, yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: well that well, he doesn't have to put a beanie on,
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Speaker 1: that's true. Can you imagine him trying to fit all those
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Speaker 1: dreads under a beanie? Now that would look suspicious.
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Speaker 2: Well, he said at one stage, and we're just going off.
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Speaker 2: This isn't even what I thought anymore. This is just
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Speaker 2: talking about it. But I'll get back on track. At
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Speaker 2: some stage. When he's like, they're like you gotta wear
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Speaker 2: a suit, he gues, you know, you got to blend in.
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Speaker 2: He's like, I'm going to stand out no matter where
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Speaker 2: you put me in. But are you though, like you're big?
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Speaker 2: But like that's maybe it's the dreads, I guess, and
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Speaker 2: he did because he's hella handsome. Oh well yeah, and
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Speaker 2: he did look ridiculous in a suit that wasn't tucked in.
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Speaker 2: It's like you guys have done him, you know, at
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Speaker 2: a service here, but.
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Speaker 1: It screams independent contractor.
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Speaker 2: It just yeah, it was It was a surprise to
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Speaker 2: me to obviously go on to and then I'm like,
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Speaker 2: holy shit, this isn't this is an Atlantis episode that
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Speaker 2: seems to be heading towards being entirely based on Earth, and.
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Speaker 1: Then checked as if it was written by Joe and Paul.
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Speaker 2: Well, honestly, that was going to be my joke. I
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Speaker 2: was going to come on here and go written and
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Speaker 2: directed by Joe and Paul, directed by any Keido. Ah.
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Speaker 2: And then as it's going on, and I sort of
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Speaker 2: had to pause it at one point because I'm watching it.
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Speaker 2: Wife walks in and like she's a nurse, not that
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Speaker 2: well just because it's got medical stuff that she would
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Speaker 2: naturally ask questions. But I thought if she would ask
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Speaker 2: what was going what am I watching? Because I'd been
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Speaker 2: you know, it was on for a couple of minutes
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Speaker 2: before I did stop it. When she was in the room,
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Speaker 2: it was just with old mate, the head of the
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Speaker 2: military contractor or whatever. He was talking about his daughter
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Speaker 2: being sick and then looking into cancer research and applying
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Speaker 2: experimental shit, and I thought if she asked me, now,
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Speaker 2: what am I watching and I say, oh, Stargate. I
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Speaker 2: wonder how much that would surprise it because it was
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Speaker 2: just all medical jargon and it was about using God forbid,
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Speaker 2: all this alien technology to better human either living advancement
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Speaker 2: whatever in the medical field. Like we had a lot
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Speaker 2: of that early on in SG one, where it was
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Speaker 2: more about the military stuff. Occasionally there was a there
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Speaker 2: was a health benefit, but it was often too dangerous
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Speaker 2: to really bring back and put into mass production back
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Speaker 2: on Earth.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've come a long way since the cavemen virus.
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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I feel like a
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Speaker 2: lot of that's just sort of gotten lost in the background.
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Speaker 2: It's sort of like we expect that that's what's going on,
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Speaker 2: and whenever my kids asked me, you know what it's about,
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Speaker 2: and even the difference between Star Wars, Star Trek and Stargates,
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Speaker 2: and it's like, well, ones, you know, you know, fantasy
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Speaker 2: a long way away, Stargate is now, and with modern people,
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Speaker 2: modern technologies dealing with this stuff that you know, a
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Speaker 2: whole new universe they've been opened up to, and Star
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Speaker 2: Trek is Earth's future and us sort of actually engaging
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Speaker 2: in you know, some pretty nice civil relationships with a
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Speaker 2: lot of alien races and not so civil with others,
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Speaker 2: but again about human advancement, peace and and you know,
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Speaker 2: expanding us and the future and all that. So it
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Speaker 2: was a bit more of a I think it reminded
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Speaker 2: me of what they touched on very early on in Stargate.
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, you bring the Wraith
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Speaker 2: into it again and it's like they're on Earth. It's like,
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Speaker 2: holy shit, this is a moment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I know, it's only one and he's got seven machine
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Speaker 2: guns trained on him. But it just kept taking different steps,
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Speaker 2: like for the most part, but not that it was
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Speaker 2: a shit episode and it was only made good because
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Speaker 2: a Wraith came into it. But I was just like, okay, cool, yeah,
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Speaker 2: like a medical thing. And this guy isn't just this
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Speaker 2: overararching sort of villain like aha, you will fix my daughter,
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Speaker 2: I will kill you. Like he was a guy that
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Speaker 2: was taking some pretty drastic sort of steps to try
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Speaker 2: and save his daughter. And you got that pretty early
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Speaker 2: on with him going hey, hey, hey, like I've got
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Speaker 2: you and you were under my guard and you know,
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Speaker 2: we'll tease you and all that sort of shit. But
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Speaker 2: I'm here to save my daughter, and he wasn't he
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Speaker 2: wasn't evil, he was desperate.
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Speaker 1: I called him an evil doctor, evil mister Sheffield. Remember
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Speaker 1: when mister sheff Field was an SG one and he
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Speaker 1: kind of you know, similar situation where he'd been an
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Speaker 1: outside contractor for the SGC making technologies and he'd figured
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Speaker 1: some shit out and then whereas this guy obviously had
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Speaker 1: the whole you know, and we spoke about this before.
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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you do anything for your kids. You
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Speaker 1: and Sarah are very much like that. So you guys
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Speaker 1: do anything for your kids. So you know, yeah, he
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Speaker 1: is of a sympathetic villain in a way, in much
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Speaker 1: as yeah, you can call him a villain in this
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Speaker 1: he's more just kind of a shades of gray desperation.
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Speaker 2: Kind but just like how how like violent his little
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Speaker 2: Black Ops team were on multiple occasions before you all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden became sympathetic to him, Like, dude, like,
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you could have just forcefully asked them and
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Speaker 2: then put them into a car. You didn't have to
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Speaker 2: like bust into their house and scare their child, scare
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Speaker 2: the husband, like threatened to kill them.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't do because we've we've done it
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Speaker 1: a few times in in SG one. I'm glad they
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Speaker 1: didn't do the just the unmarked van pulling up beside
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Speaker 1: someone on the street and just like yanking, Yeah, driving off.
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Speaker 2: It happens to bit.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like they could have just like
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Speaker 1: knocked on their door in daylight and walked in there
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Speaker 1: and you know, put them to sleep and dragged them out.
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Speaker 1: He didn't have. But yeah, they needed some action on
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Speaker 1: the on the on the oppen because it is yet
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Speaker 1: it is a very talking tool yet so there's not
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Speaker 1: a lot of that goes on in it, and he does.
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Speaker 1: I thought you brought up Sarah before I thought you
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Speaker 1: were going to say what she lean into was. I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty sure it was in this. But there's a shot
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Speaker 1: where just like the needle just goes into either Genie's
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Speaker 1: arm or the daughters just on just like just a
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Speaker 1: straight zero degree angles, not into a vein, just straight
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Speaker 1: into flesh, you know what I mean. And I was like,
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Speaker 1: I feel like if there was a medical professional on
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Speaker 1: site or an advisor, they've gone that's not really how
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Speaker 1: that would go.
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Speaker 2: No, she's good for that, Sarah, either, it's too big
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Speaker 2: of a needle or it's in the wrong spot, and
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Speaker 2: they would put that much in there with that particular
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I get it, but also I like, no,
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Speaker 2: they should have someone that's an advisor.
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Speaker 1: Like well they normally do in the SGC, I know,
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Speaker 1: like sorry inn sg won in the SUC, like when
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Speaker 1: they do like the old like Doc Phraser scenes and
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Speaker 1: stuff like that, they did have there was a real
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Speaker 1: nurse on site who was the In the same way
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Speaker 1: there's a military advisor. It's like, oh, the Air Force
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Speaker 1: wouldn't do this. The Air Force wouldn't do that. There
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Speaker 1: would be a medical advisor there being like Okay, well
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Speaker 1: this is how you would do this, this is how
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Speaker 1: you would apply this, this is what you would do. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: all that kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: You know, him being sympathetic. I was about to say
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Speaker 2: that you did start to feel sorry for him obviously
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Speaker 2: with his backstory. His wife died a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 2: He can't go through that again. He has to save
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Speaker 2: his daughter and then she dies twice in this episode. Yeah, dude,
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Speaker 2: hasn't he been through enough? Now? Like I get that
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Speaker 2: he was an assle, but you know, you did start
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Speaker 2: to realize why, and you hated him a little less
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Speaker 2: for it.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I just want to put on
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Speaker 1: record to anybody listening to anyone who's going to slip
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Speaker 1: into my DM and be like, Maddie, it's your job
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Speaker 1: to give the trivia and give us all the behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes info.
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Speaker 2: True.
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Speaker 1: No, what, No, I'm not going to talk about what
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Speaker 1: he was in and where people who watch other sci
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Speaker 1: fi shows recognizing.
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Speaker 2: The dad Garry Wallace. Okay, it's not worth that.
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Speaker 1: That's one to bring it up.
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Speaker 2: What he was in? You can?
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Speaker 1: You know, you know, but I'm not getting into it.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. And I'm glad you said that now
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Speaker 2: because had I have just blindly and innocently asked you
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Speaker 2: the question I'm about to ask you, if you hadn't
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Speaker 2: have said that, it would have looked like I was
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Speaker 2: trying to beat you because I was about to ask
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Speaker 2: have we seen him before, but more specifically in Stargate
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Speaker 2: because he does seem familiar to me. But is that
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Speaker 2: only because I may have seen him in another you know.
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Speaker 1: Possibly talk amongst yourselves while I look it up. So
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Speaker 1: this is where we need a third person?
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Speaker 2: Is christ This is going to be interesting but yeah
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Speaker 2: he did.
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Speaker 1: Because I don't know the actor's name, so I've got
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Speaker 1: to go into IMDb. I've got to look up Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: then find the episode, and then find the actor who
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Speaker 1: played Henry Wallace.
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Speaker 2: Okay, hang on, let me just I'll just give you Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: there we go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we could play some audio while I'm
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Speaker 1: looking it up. Oh yeah, I mean it's either all
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Speaker 1: full discretion to anyone listening. It's I did my prep
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Speaker 1: for this a while ago, and Mitch has been sick
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Speaker 1: and unable to do things. So I have bits of
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Speaker 1: audio here that I have no idea what they mean.
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Speaker 2: Find the longest one, then, well.
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Speaker 1: I don't even have the not I just have what
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Speaker 1: I've saved them as play number one. See what it says.
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Speaker 1: It just says bait on mine.
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Speaker 3: And your correspondence with Jeanie.
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Speaker 4: I desperately needed someone familiar with the coding to come
15:04
Speaker 4: fix the programming, right, So Genie was just the big no.
15:07
Speaker 3: From what I could tell, she had a firmer grasp
15:09
Speaker 3: of the coding than you did. I don't think it's
15:10
Speaker 3: fair to judgement on a couple of emails.
15:11
Speaker 2: I mean, they don't reflect you, because that was that
15:15
Speaker 2: sent me that clip that was so funny because like, again,
15:18
Speaker 2: at that stage, we didn't know to feel sorry for
15:21
Speaker 2: that guy. And he's there trying to save his sister's life,
15:24
Speaker 2: like he's literally traveled across the universe to save his
15:27
Speaker 2: sister's life. And then the guy who's kidnapped her and
15:30
Speaker 2: you know, as far as he was led to believe
15:31
Speaker 2: at that point, threatened her and her family with death, says,
15:34
Speaker 2: sister's smarter than you are in this particular instance. And
15:38
Speaker 2: he's like, well, hang on, hang on, hold on, you
15:40
Speaker 2: don't know the star crazy here income and even at
15:45
Speaker 2: the start, and I loved Zelenka, I don't say Zelenski,
15:49
Speaker 2: but because he's obviously very busy elsewhere, Zelenka, you know,
15:52
Speaker 2: saying to Roddy, we've been here for ten hours. You've
15:54
Speaker 2: been staying at the same shit. You're waiting for this epiphany.
15:57
Speaker 2: Couldn't you just ask your sister for help? And he's
15:59
Speaker 2: like no, He's like, put your ego aside. And then
16:02
Speaker 2: and Rodney's saying, well, I guess if we did solve
16:05
Speaker 2: it now with her help, it would allow me to
16:06
Speaker 2: focus on other project. He's like, hey, hey, sell it to
16:08
Speaker 2: yourself however you want. And I'm like, I love when
16:11
Speaker 2: people call him out, but it's always John that calls
16:14
Speaker 2: him out. Yeah, and Ronan gives him a little bit
16:16
Speaker 2: of shit. And obviously now that Carter's around, though not
16:18
Speaker 2: in this episode, you know.
16:20
Speaker 1: We'll get to that, or you believe we'll get to that.
16:23
Speaker 2: The little behind the scenes.
16:24
Speaker 1: Oh no, there's no story. I just I just have
16:26
Speaker 1: I have, I have opinions.
16:28
Speaker 2: Oh right, okay, so yeah, it was Yes.
16:32
Speaker 1: I think I figured out where you would know him from.
16:35
Speaker 1: He was in Captain America the Winter Soldiers, someone called Scudder,
16:42
Speaker 1: the pivotal character of Scudder. But other than that, yeah,
16:45
Speaker 1: he's This is his only appearance in any Stargate franchise
16:49
Speaker 1: as far as I can see. But he was in
16:51
Speaker 1: Captain America Winter Soldier as Scudder. He was also in
16:54
Speaker 1: something else she would have knowned. He did one episode
16:56
Speaker 1: of Arrow in twenty fifteen, and yeah, just a lot
16:59
Speaker 1: of you know, one episode bits.
17:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he looks he's one of those faces. Yeah,
17:04
Speaker 2: like he would get around in the TV scene or whatever.
17:06
Speaker 1: But I would buy him if he popped up in
17:08
Speaker 1: an episode of SG one as like the leader of
17:09
Speaker 1: SG twelve or something like that.
17:11
Speaker 2: I'd buy it. Oh, yeah, by it. And I just
17:12
Speaker 2: thought maybe he had been an SG one as like
17:15
Speaker 2: a you know, mister Sheffield alternate. Somewhere along the line
17:19
Speaker 2: we have dealt with him. He has been there, or
17:20
Speaker 2: he has been like a lowly thing, and now he's
17:22
Speaker 2: higher up. He's running that company or that organization at
17:25
Speaker 2: the least.
17:26
Speaker 1: Is doctor Quinn Medicine.
17:27
Speaker 2: Woind if that's I mean, I did watch that as
17:29
Speaker 2: a kid. If I could remember more than one thing
17:32
Speaker 2: about that show, I would be very surprised. Yeah. And
17:35
Speaker 2: I just thought the fact that he came in and
17:37
Speaker 2: was like twice to two different characters like I'm Henry Wallace.
17:41
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, his most recent credit he did, he's
17:44
Speaker 1: done three episodes of Suits.
17:46
Speaker 2: La, Okay, I haven't started watching that. No, I mean either,
17:49
Speaker 2: I mean I never finished Suits. Oh, we've got about
17:52
Speaker 2: four episodes into the Catherine Heigel era Markel.
17:57
Speaker 1: Oh no, you are a fan of Megon Markel and
17:58
Speaker 1: you checked out and the Catherine Heigiler.
17:59
Speaker 2: Well, I think it turns out I'm a fan of
18:01
Speaker 2: Rachel on Suits more than I'm a fan of Megan Markle.
18:06
Speaker 2: But we did get that far and then my wife's
18:08
Speaker 2: like like we we don't even know if she said anything,
18:10
Speaker 2: but we just sort of fell off. And then when
18:12
Speaker 2: I tried to get her back because I knew that,
18:14
Speaker 2: like at least old mate Patrick Adams does return in
18:18
Speaker 2: the like what do they make nine seasons and it's
18:20
Speaker 2: eight and nine that was Catherine Heigel and I was like, no, no, no,
18:24
Speaker 2: in season nine he comes back into it, and there
18:26
Speaker 2: was all the rumors that maybe she would even though
18:28
Speaker 2: she was like engaged to a royal at that point.
18:30
Speaker 2: That was never gonna happen. And I was like, I
18:32
Speaker 2: just want to get to the end and it ends
18:34
Speaker 2: the way that finishes with like those two main guys there,
18:36
Speaker 2: let's just get them we haven't yet. Yeah, that's like
18:38
Speaker 2: my years on.
18:39
Speaker 1: I was in that show for Rebecca. I love g Notorious. Yeah,
18:43
Speaker 1: so yeah, it was a bit of it.
18:44
Speaker 2: And what's the redhead's name? Donna?
18:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, both in the Great Yeah, but Rebecca, Rebecca was
18:52
Speaker 1: my in and yeah when she left, it was a bit.
18:54
Speaker 2: It was a bit rror. It's a bit more.
18:56
Speaker 1: Although ironically I've never been able to find anywhere Australia
18:59
Speaker 1: to watch and has spin off show.
19:00
Speaker 2: That she Yeah, yeah, come out of that show. You're right, No,
19:05
Speaker 2: I can't remember whether we had access to it, wonder
19:07
Speaker 2: whether we were now anyway.
19:09
Speaker 1: He would probably be on seven plus or something of those.
19:11
Speaker 1: But I get her in I get her in Loan
19:13
Speaker 1: Star nine to one one. That's my guilty pleasure. So
19:15
Speaker 1: with Rob low So, final season of that coming out soon.
19:19
Speaker 2: Anything I've seen of that show is when they find
19:21
Speaker 2: a guy who's been frozen in like his home ice bath,
19:25
Speaker 2: and they try to compress his chests and they pushed
19:28
Speaker 2: through things.
19:29
Speaker 1: I've also sec the video of the of the racist neighbor,
19:32
Speaker 1: the old lady neighbor trying to fake a heart attack
19:34
Speaker 1: because there's some Mexicans next door having a barbecue. Yes, yes, yes,
19:37
Speaker 1: And then she fakes a heart attack and and she
19:39
Speaker 1: doesn't want the black guy to give her mouth to mouth,
19:42
Speaker 1: that's right. And then he's like, well, I'm also trans
19:44
Speaker 1: so and she's like, ah, I'm fine, I'm okay.
19:47
Speaker 2: Then yeah, yeah. One of my favorite scenes, brilliant. I
19:49
Speaker 2: think I have seen that. It's like those two those
19:51
Speaker 2: are two great ads for watching that show. But you know,
19:53
Speaker 2: I've got enough cop procedurals that I haven't caught up
19:56
Speaker 2: on in yeah decade, So yeah, Craig.
19:58
Speaker 1: Every other week, Craig's on me about what from the
20:00
Speaker 1: rookie and I'm like, it's not it's just not gonna
20:01
Speaker 1: hap And you love Nathan Fillion, love him, love him.
20:04
Speaker 1: Never going to happen as far as the cop procedure
20:05
Speaker 1: goes happen.
20:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, never going to.
20:07
Speaker 1: Happen, buddy.
20:08
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's good to know. And I will
20:09
Speaker 2: push you for where Henry Wallace is actually from and
20:12
Speaker 2: why at the end of the podcast, we're not banking up.
20:16
Speaker 2: That's one. So it's not going to cost you, you know,
20:18
Speaker 2: exactly next week or anything like that exactly. I was
20:21
Speaker 2: starting to worry, as again first time are watching this
20:24
Speaker 2: that I'm thinking, well, she kind of has to die,
20:29
Speaker 2: this daughter. They well, at least they can't save her
20:31
Speaker 2: with this technology, because if this technology works and they've
20:36
Speaker 2: cured cancer as they were celebrating, which I still felt
20:39
Speaker 2: kind of weird. Like this dad, you know, like one
20:43
Speaker 2: he was in his when he first noticed that they
20:44
Speaker 2: had escaped in that in that first scene where they
20:47
Speaker 2: were locked away, they escape and he's in his office
20:49
Speaker 2: by himself, and I'm like, I feel like at this
20:51
Speaker 2: point where you think like a cure might be right
20:54
Speaker 2: around the corner, because literally right around the corner you
20:56
Speaker 2: have two of the smartest people in the freaking galaxies
20:59
Speaker 2: working on this problem that you know you would be
21:01
Speaker 2: bedside with your daughter. Then when she actually does get better,
21:06
Speaker 2: then he walks off to take these two people that
21:08
Speaker 2: he's just kidnapped to pop a bottle of champagne completely
21:10
Speaker 2: separate from her.
21:11
Speaker 1: So that were terrible, pau by the way, that champagne paw.
21:13
Speaker 1: If you if you look closely at that terrible what
21:16
Speaker 1: was it like a straight up no, straight up there
21:19
Speaker 1: was there was maybe ten mils of champagne in the
21:21
Speaker 1: bottom of that and the rest was foam. And I
21:23
Speaker 1: think at one point you even see like they they
21:25
Speaker 1: dropped the champagne flute down out of frame because that
21:28
Speaker 1: phone was going out the time, right, Yeah, absolutely.
21:30
Speaker 2: Poor did you just again little side turned on? Just
21:32
Speaker 2: because it's Champagne watching Dead Devil Born Again and he
21:35
Speaker 2: had Bbie and and young Michael Gandalfini and they're in
21:39
Speaker 2: a scene party scene earlier on and whatever's going on,
21:43
Speaker 2: and she's looking a him. She goes shots and he's
21:46
Speaker 2: like yeah, and they go to the bar and they
21:48
Speaker 2: pick up like three champagne flutes. I'm so sorry, guys,
21:52
Speaker 2: that's not a shot.
21:53
Speaker 1: I check out anytime Gandi guys on on screen because
21:55
Speaker 1: I can't stand that character. I'm sure that actor did,
21:58
Speaker 1: because I want to see him. He's in that that movie.
21:59
Speaker 1: I want to see the come out, isn't it the
22:01
Speaker 1: one with Kit Connor and all the and and the
22:06
Speaker 1: gold guy from Guardians of Galaxy the war movie.
22:08
Speaker 2: The what's it called Warfare? Yes, yes, he's in that.
22:11
Speaker 2: I heard that he's in it the other day. And he
22:13
Speaker 2: plays like a pivotal role. Yes, I saw. He's like
22:15
Speaker 2: killing it.
22:15
Speaker 1: He's like part of the core, like six guys that
22:18
Speaker 1: got matching tattoos. That's fantastic apparently, because the opening scene
22:22
Speaker 1: is we now we divulge into this the fantastic film clip,
22:26
Speaker 1: and I've assume there's a song attached to it call
22:27
Speaker 1: on Me, came on Me. Yeah, they all got tattoos
22:33
Speaker 1: that say call on me.
22:34
Speaker 2: Oh brilliant. Yeah, a little movie date between us to
22:38
Speaker 2: go and watch gandal Feeni.
22:39
Speaker 1: Absolutely and definitely not the Kit Connor.
22:43
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I just thought, Okay, he should
22:46
Speaker 2: have been in the room with his daughter, Like if
22:49
Speaker 2: his daughter's just getting cured, she says, she's conscious for
22:51
Speaker 2: the first time in a while.
22:52
Speaker 1: You don't celebrate with the people that you've abducted to
22:54
Speaker 1: get it done. You spend that time with your kid.
22:57
Speaker 1: You've done all this And because even says later on,
22:59
Speaker 1: like he knew that the second he had this plan,
23:00
Speaker 1: he knew he was going to prison whether she lived
23:03
Speaker 1: or died, he knew spend some time with you would
23:05
Speaker 1: spend the time with her, But you need.
23:06
Speaker 2: That dramatic walk into the guy going we need you,
23:08
Speaker 2: and then the dramamic walk in of him realizing that
23:11
Speaker 2: his daughter's dead, would happened her heart stopped, blah blah blah.
23:14
Speaker 1: But I thought, was she ever get a line or
23:16
Speaker 1: was she just an extra I do you reckon?
23:17
Speaker 2: No, she when she was better and they walked in
23:19
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, these are the people that saved you.
23:22
Speaker 2: And she said, oh, it's the best I felt in years,
23:24
Speaker 2: or something like that. But I thought, yeah, it's It
23:28
Speaker 2: sucks when the crux of the story, at least that
23:31
Speaker 2: part of it is a cure, and you know that
23:34
Speaker 2: they cannot create this cure because then it really does
23:39
Speaker 2: have world changing effects. Yeah.
23:41
Speaker 1: Well, and for the same reason we couldn't bring Wea
23:47
Speaker 1: back because she's part replicator. Yes, this girl would not
23:52
Speaker 1: be allowed out in the general population because she's part replicator.
23:56
Speaker 2: Yeah h yeah, that's true. Yeah, so I thought that
23:58
Speaker 2: sucks because we know how this is going to end. Yeah,
24:00
Speaker 2: but then you get Genie infected with it, which I mean,
24:03
Speaker 2: for as sympathetic as he was as a villain, real
24:05
Speaker 2: dick move where he's like, oh, sorry, you just wanted
24:08
Speaker 2: to escape and the only coding you were working on
24:10
Speaker 2: was to unlock the doors. Well, now you're going to
24:11
Speaker 2: save your sister. It's like, well, that's how you're gonna
24:14
Speaker 2: get shit done around here.
24:15
Speaker 1: So it was hard. I think, and we say this
24:18
Speaker 1: a lot. I think this could have been a two parter,
24:21
Speaker 1: but it also could have been two separate episodes. Like
24:23
Speaker 1: obviously the I think the trap, and because it was
24:26
Speaker 1: a Martain Geiro written episode is we just want Genie
24:31
Speaker 1: and Meredith, We just want them doing the brothers sister
24:35
Speaker 1: thing because all that is absolute gold. But yeah, the
24:40
Speaker 1: the deep turn it took in terms of Wallace injecting
24:45
Speaker 1: Genie so that they had to you know, break the
24:48
Speaker 1: thing about breaking her legs to all that kind of
24:50
Speaker 1: which I think Brendan has referenced a few times on
24:52
Speaker 1: as well.
24:53
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have meant anything to me. Yeah, that was
24:55
Speaker 2: such a great exst.
24:56
Speaker 1: What I wish we'd actually spend a little bit more
24:58
Speaker 1: time and if it was an episode of Star Trek,
25:00
Speaker 1: I believe what I think is the moment where John
25:05
Speaker 1: pushes Wallace to volunteer to feed the race. That's the
25:11
Speaker 1: ethical quandary for me. That's the thing that I want
25:14
Speaker 1: to investigate, because that all felt very out of character
25:18
Speaker 1: for John, very out of character. So I wish I mean,
25:22
Speaker 1: the scene itself was it made me feel uneasy and icky,
25:26
Speaker 1: which I think is good, But I just wish there'd
25:29
Speaker 1: been a little more back end stuff after Jeannie had
25:33
Speaker 1: been saved, of John coming to terms with that, and maybe,
25:40
Speaker 1: you know, John and Rodney having a conversation about that.
25:44
Speaker 1: I also think, you know, maybe there would have been
25:45
Speaker 1: more emotional investment for John if it had been Taylor
25:52
Speaker 1: or Rodney or someone that he was closer to rather
25:54
Speaker 1: than Jeanie, who we've only seen for one episode. I
25:57
Speaker 1: feel like that is a very heavy turn for j
26:00
Speaker 1: On to take. For Jeanie, I think I would have
26:04
Speaker 1: loved a conversation between Rodney and John about it. And
26:10
Speaker 1: maybe it was the reason John did it is because
26:13
Speaker 1: of his connection with Roddy and yes, he always shits
26:15
Speaker 1: on Roddey and makes fun of him, pokes fun. We
26:17
Speaker 1: could have, you know, found out that maybe John had
26:20
Speaker 1: lost his sister or he doesn't really have a family.
26:22
Speaker 1: He doesn't We've never really spoken about any of John's
26:26
Speaker 1: family or anything like that. So I would have liked
26:28
Speaker 1: maybe some kind of element there because I feel like
26:31
Speaker 1: if that was a Jack and Daniel scene, we would
26:33
Speaker 1: have gotten some backstory and we would have got the
26:35
Speaker 1: family element of you know, you are my family, You're
26:38
Speaker 1: my chosen family, whatever it is. So I really would
26:41
Speaker 1: have liked an episode about that, but we're never going
26:43
Speaker 1: to get that from Martin Guiro. And then I think,
26:46
Speaker 1: and much to my dismay of Elizabeth not being here,
26:51
Speaker 1: is I think Elizabeth would have been the one to
26:54
Speaker 1: talk about the moral quandary of is it okay to
26:59
Speaker 1: do this? And you know the way that John sort
27:03
Speaker 1: of yeah talked Henry into it, Yeah, kind of thing
27:07
Speaker 1: I would have I would have liked to explore more
27:09
Speaker 1: of that.
27:09
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, well even like the way that John
27:12
Speaker 2: was so dismissive of and I understand why, but of
27:17
Speaker 2: Rodney offering himself. Now, when Rodney said that, I wasn't
27:20
Speaker 2: taking that completely as like, oh, I'm going to say
27:23
Speaker 2: I want I want to be killed by this wraith,
27:25
Speaker 2: this unnamed wraith with four letters. I took that almost
27:29
Speaker 2: like I'm just going to give him a little dose,
27:31
Speaker 2: like you know, let me lose ten years of my
27:33
Speaker 2: life just to give him a little booster to have
27:35
Speaker 2: him finished. Will send him back to to Atlantis and
27:39
Speaker 2: we'll fix him up somehow. I didn't take that as
27:42
Speaker 2: him saying my life for hers, because you know, he
27:46
Speaker 2: cops enough shit about not being that guy, and I
27:49
Speaker 2: like that he would do it for his sister. But
27:51
Speaker 2: I feel like, almost this will be another thing, like
27:54
Speaker 2: you know, we've we've had moments where I mean it
27:57
Speaker 2: was in the last episode with his sister where there
28:00
Speaker 2: are moments where he turns into a much more selfless person,
28:04
Speaker 2: but then it's forgotten about the next episode and they
28:06
Speaker 2: just go on. It's like they've reset it and it's
28:08
Speaker 2: the old school Rodney, which is fun because we love
28:10
Speaker 2: old school Rodney. He works, we know where he is
28:12
Speaker 2: in his place in the team, but we forget about
28:15
Speaker 2: those moments that make him a better person. And then
28:18
Speaker 2: this happens to the point where it was exactly how
28:22
Speaker 2: you were just saying, he was sacrificing himself. But because
28:25
Speaker 2: of what the show continually tells me, I'm like, oh,
28:27
Speaker 2: he doesn't mean all the way. He only means a
28:29
Speaker 2: little bit. But then John going no, like absolutely not,
28:33
Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, but it's my sister, and I'm
28:34
Speaker 2: going to do it anyway. Him saying no, I'm sorry,
28:37
Speaker 2: you're too too important and you're on my team. No
28:40
Speaker 2: making a call as a military person rather than a
28:44
Speaker 2: you know, letting a friend you know do what he
28:47
Speaker 2: you know again, what he tried to do, go and
28:50
Speaker 2: sneak into the room and probably make it happen. And
28:52
Speaker 2: it's like, well that he's only saying no narratively, he's
28:55
Speaker 2: saying no, because not even narrative as the story, but
28:58
Speaker 2: the actual show and production and thirty three minutes, you know,
29:01
Speaker 2: he says no so definitively because there's going to be
29:04
Speaker 2: another way for this to work out and then yeah,
29:06
Speaker 2: cut to next scene, and before I realized what was
29:09
Speaker 2: going on, I'm asking myself, hang on, what why Shepherd
29:13
Speaker 2: interrogating this guy like he was there to find Rodney
29:16
Speaker 2: but he has nothing to do with this guy's going
29:18
Speaker 2: to get to jail. He's not like he's not his
29:21
Speaker 2: legal representative, he's not bringing more evidence against him, Like
29:24
Speaker 2: there's not oh yeah.
29:26
Speaker 1: And then obviously then that leads into and there's been
29:29
Speaker 1: some criticism about it from some of the fandom and
29:31
Speaker 1: stuff like that, in that it is kind of like
29:34
Speaker 1: Tabula rasa, where if Rodney had just hit Enter, it
29:39
Speaker 1: would have been fine.
29:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was this whole thing.
29:41
Speaker 1: He did everything up until the point of hitting enter,
29:44
Speaker 1: and it's like we walk in and we see that
29:46
Speaker 1: Todd has just sorry the Wraith with no name of
29:51
Speaker 1: four letters. Wait, wait, Reese, I don't spoil anything. Okay,
30:02
Speaker 1: I don't spoil anything. Race He's just fed, and then
30:06
Speaker 1: he like taps three buttons on the computer and then goes, okay,
30:09
Speaker 1: it's down. Off cut it, you know what I mean.
30:11
Speaker 1: So a little people are going, well, he could have
30:14
Speaker 1: just done that, But then they had this to say
30:16
Speaker 1: in the audio commentary about it, because this is pretty.
30:19
Speaker 5: Much the darkest we've ever gotten on the show. And
30:21
Speaker 5: there was a lot of hesitation from Joe and a
30:23
Speaker 5: lot of hesitation from the network that we essentially have
30:26
Speaker 5: our lead character talking a guy into killing himself and
30:30
Speaker 5: is that too dark? And you know, I brought up
30:32
Speaker 5: that Wallace is a tragic character. He makes, you know,
30:35
Speaker 5: he makes he has a tragic flight and make said,
30:37
Speaker 5: you know, some some terrible mistakes. Again the second that
30:40
Speaker 5: he injects Genie in that he kind of signs his
30:43
Speaker 5: own death warrant. And the other thing is, what would
30:47
Speaker 5: you do. I have no problem with the decision, you know,
30:50
Speaker 5: like Shepherd didn't bring him in there and and you know,
30:54
Speaker 5: put the Rai's hand on his chest. He presented it
30:57
Speaker 5: cleanly and said, listen, your life is over anyway. You're
31:00
Speaker 5: about your daughter is dead, You're about to go into
31:03
Speaker 5: a very dark place for the rest of your life.
31:05
Speaker 5: You can save someone's life here right in fact, two
31:08
Speaker 5: people's lives, because oddly enough, he's saving the Wraith and Genie,
31:12
Speaker 5: not that that's a primary concern. So this I kind
31:15
Speaker 5: of like too, we kind of leave it a little
31:17
Speaker 5: ambiguous to the fact that like, had he been done
31:19
Speaker 5: the whole time and was just holding them up and
31:23
Speaker 5: did he really need to feed? I mean, I think
31:25
Speaker 5: he really needed to feed, and I also think he
31:27
Speaker 5: was already done.
31:29
Speaker 1: So that's you know from the writer, He's like, yeah,
31:31
Speaker 1: he acknowledges that, Yeah, he thinks that that the Wraith
31:36
Speaker 1: was was playing them, and that yeah, he wanted to feed,
31:40
Speaker 1: but he wasn't necessarily that he would die without having Faeda,
31:44
Speaker 1: So I think it still keeps the threat of the
31:46
Speaker 1: Wraith ye alive there as well.
31:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is interesting. And in the end, like I know,
31:50
Speaker 2: he talked him into doing it and whatever that side
31:54
Speaker 2: of it. But at the same time, like Wallace, Okay,
31:57
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to live with the the guilt I
32:03
Speaker 2: guess over his daughter, but also just the sadness of it,
32:05
Speaker 2: the grief around his daughter and now not having his wife.
32:09
Speaker 2: But also he doesn't have to go to jail now,
32:12
Speaker 2: like he's taken an easy way out. Yeah, you know, Okay,
32:15
Speaker 2: he probably went through some excruciating pain and in those
32:19
Speaker 2: ten to thirty seconds howe long it took him to die,
32:22
Speaker 2: probably regretted his decision. But at the same time, you know,
32:26
Speaker 2: he took the easy way out to offer himself up,
32:28
Speaker 2: even if he had to be guilted into it. So like, yeah,
32:31
Speaker 2: John had to be darker than we've ever seen him
32:34
Speaker 2: to have that conversation with that guy so that he
32:36
Speaker 2: could save well, save Rodney but also save Genie. But
32:39
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's like there's a certain percentage
32:43
Speaker 2: of like, well, his conscience could be cleared a little
32:46
Speaker 2: bit because this guy was, you know, probably in some
32:50
Speaker 2: levels happy to happy to not have to go to
32:52
Speaker 2: jail for everything that he did.
32:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, but it also does bring up the you know,
32:56
Speaker 1: when we first meet the Raith, it's like they can
33:00
Speaker 1: feed without taking everything, because he did that with John,
33:03
Speaker 1: took little bits of John and then sort of gave
33:05
Speaker 1: it back once he'd sort of drained the other guys. So, yeah,
33:08
Speaker 1: it's hard when there's so much backstory and stuff to
33:13
Speaker 1: work in with that. I don't think Martin giro bothers
33:16
Speaker 1: to look into, which actually I can tell you I
33:18
Speaker 1: can confirm he doesn't.
33:21
Speaker 5: Now was this comic kind of just a shout out
33:24
Speaker 5: to Martin Wood for some reason or because it's Martin
33:26
Speaker 5: Wood on the cover there?
33:27
Speaker 2: Did you know that I.
33:28
Speaker 4: Didn't even notice. Yeah, I honestly didn't notice. It was
33:30
Speaker 4: something that the props guy's brought in and we pulled
33:32
Speaker 4: out of the drawer and Joe was flipping through the
33:35
Speaker 4: various magazines and that was the one so oh good
33:38
Speaker 4: Martin Waite.
33:38
Speaker 2: So what was it?
33:39
Speaker 4: A TV zone?
33:40
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what it was.
33:41
Speaker 5: No, it was like some comic they had mocked up
33:43
Speaker 5: where Martin is a superhero. So I don't think we
33:46
Speaker 5: was even for the show. I think he just asked
33:48
Speaker 5: them to do it.
33:49
Speaker 4: You're a real attention to detail kind of a guy. Actually,
33:52
Speaker 4: I have to be aware of this.
33:53
Speaker 5: Next He's like, hey, you know what I want to
33:55
Speaker 5: comic of just me? And they're like, well, we're busy
33:57
Speaker 5: trying to make a TV show. And he was like,
33:59
Speaker 5: well listen, I'm Martin wood It, so do it. Are
34:01
Speaker 5: you probably gonna get fired? And they you know, if
34:03
Speaker 5: people listen.
34:03
Speaker 2: To his attention to details, well.
34:06
Speaker 1: Listen here, Muttin Guiro, mister, I'm Muttin would I'm more important?
34:11
Speaker 1: The comic book that Joe was reading, so the Shepherd
34:14
Speaker 1: was reading, was The Amazing Avenger, which they created for
34:19
Speaker 1: Avenger two point oh with old mate, freakin' what's his name,
34:25
Speaker 1: Folger Pilger.
34:27
Speaker 2: Is okay, attention not to all the details.
34:30
Speaker 1: Yes, So the episode Avenger two point oh, which is
34:34
Speaker 1: what Felger Felgar there, It is named his virus after
34:39
Speaker 1: his favorite comic book hero, the Amazing Avenger, which they
34:42
Speaker 1: made a comic book of that. On that episode they
34:45
Speaker 1: made the Amazing Avenger person apparently looked like Martin Wood.
34:48
Speaker 1: They never really made it to screen, but that's a
34:50
Speaker 1: pretty important episode. And to not know and to be
34:53
Speaker 1: one of the head writers of the spinoff show.
34:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't go off half cocked, mate, if you don't know.
34:58
Speaker 1: This is why he'll always be the lesser.
35:01
Speaker 2: I just like the idea, and I guess you would've
35:03
Speaker 2: got that power, like if he did want something like
35:04
Speaker 2: that drawn up, that he could just go to props
35:07
Speaker 2: and arts yeah and go uhh yeah, just like I
35:10
Speaker 2: just need a little something something for that table. Yeah,
35:12
Speaker 2: it's a big deal. But if you could just.
35:15
Speaker 1: As opposed to Martin Guiro who inserted himself as a
35:17
Speaker 1: background extra in one of his episodes and then they
35:20
Speaker 1: had to devote it entire friggin DVD bonus feature to
35:24
Speaker 1: like a day in the Life of Krewman such and.
35:26
Speaker 2: Such or whatever and him just hamming it up. So
35:29
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a lot of money being put into that,
35:31
Speaker 2: Like come on.
35:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, this is why I can't see Ghiro.
35:34
Speaker 2: What's the go with the what's the Carter thing that
35:36
Speaker 2: you were talking about before?
35:37
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I don't want to say it, but
35:39
Speaker 1: it's like it's like, no Carter and no Taylor in
35:42
Speaker 1: this episode. It's like, well, we've got Genie and we've
35:46
Speaker 1: got the dead girl in the bed. It's probably enough
35:48
Speaker 1: feminine energy. We don't need them for this, Like what
35:50
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Like, I feel like Carter probably
35:54
Speaker 1: would know more about replicated technology than oh h than
35:58
Speaker 1: Rodney would. Inherry Hell, Karda was a replicator at one point,
36:02
Speaker 1: well she had a duplicate. Yeah, So it's just like,
36:06
Speaker 1: I know, she's in a command role now and she's
36:08
Speaker 1: not the science nerd. And that's the that's the downside
36:10
Speaker 1: to having Carter and Rodney on the same show, because
36:13
Speaker 1: they're essentially the same person for two different shows.
36:15
Speaker 2: So you could do it, like even if he didn't
36:17
Speaker 2: resolve it with his own team and he refuses them
36:20
Speaker 2: and leaves them in the room just figure it out.
36:22
Speaker 2: But then he goes, you know, like kind of puts
36:25
Speaker 2: his pride away a little bit and goes without anyone
36:28
Speaker 2: else knowing to talk to Carter about it. Carter can't
36:31
Speaker 2: work it out, yeah, and says, maybe you need to
36:34
Speaker 2: talk to it, and like she's almost the one that
36:36
Speaker 2: talks him into it because he's got a soft spot
36:38
Speaker 2: for her. Rather than listening to Selenka saying I'm bored
36:41
Speaker 2: and I'm hungry and I've lost the world to live,
36:42
Speaker 2: He's like, that's nice because you're not smarter than me,
36:44
Speaker 2: whereas Carter it's like, oh, damn it, I really want
36:46
Speaker 2: to hook up with you those I.
36:48
Speaker 1: Have a feeling it might have to do with the
36:49
Speaker 1: contractual stuff. And again I wish I wish we knew
36:52
Speaker 1: more information about it, because it's like you look at
36:54
Speaker 1: don Don s Davis. He was credited in every single
36:57
Speaker 1: episode from season one to seven, but like he got
37:00
Speaker 1: a credit in the opening credit, but he wasn't in
37:03
Speaker 1: every episode. You know, sometimes he'd just been in one scene,
37:05
Speaker 1: or he wouldn't be in the episode at all. And
37:08
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what they wanted to do with Weir,
37:12
Speaker 1: but obviously Tory wanted to work a lot, but it's like,
37:15
Speaker 1: I feel like they could have with her contract even
37:18
Speaker 1: if they wanted to change it in season four and said, look,
37:20
Speaker 1: you're still gonna get the same amount of pay. He's
37:22
Speaker 1: still gonna you know, because surely Amanda would have cost
37:24
Speaker 1: more than Tory did. But it's like, you're still gonna
37:26
Speaker 1: get the same amount of pay, but you're still gonna
37:28
Speaker 1: get credited for every episode, but you're not gonna be
37:31
Speaker 1: in every episode. It's called a as far as I'm aware,
37:34
Speaker 1: it's called A ten thirteen. So in Gilmore Girls, Keiko Aganno,
37:39
Speaker 1: who plays Rory's best friend, she's another character like that
37:42
Speaker 1: where she is credited for every episode but she's not
37:45
Speaker 1: in every episode. But it's their way to secure her
37:48
Speaker 1: so that she can't go off and get other work
37:49
Speaker 1: and not be available when they do need her. And
37:51
Speaker 1: I saw in a special feature once she calls it
37:53
Speaker 1: her contract, she was called A ten thirteen and it's
37:56
Speaker 1: out of every thirteen episodes she has to appear in
37:58
Speaker 1: at least ten, okay, and that's her, but they don't
38:00
Speaker 1: have put her in every single episode, So I feel
38:02
Speaker 1: like that's probably something that they've done with Amanda in
38:06
Speaker 1: that they wanted to. They wanted more of a Donn S.
38:07
Speaker 1: Davis kind of role. They wanted the command to be
38:10
Speaker 1: reduced less. I'm like, why wouldn't you just instead of
38:12
Speaker 1: trying to bump Tory down to recurring, just give her
38:16
Speaker 1: that gear because I feel like that would have been
38:17
Speaker 1: cheaper than Amanda. He's been on the show for ten
38:20
Speaker 1: years already, so I'm assuming that's why, you know, Amanda
38:25
Speaker 1: isn't in all of the episodes, because it's more like
38:27
Speaker 1: what they wanted. But I feel like they stupidly it's
38:29
Speaker 1: cost them a lot more money. But I understand that
38:32
Speaker 1: Carter is more of a draw card ratings wise, so
38:34
Speaker 1: I think that must be with the fan and they
38:36
Speaker 1: what they were trying to do there. Yeah, what I
38:38
Speaker 1: thought would have been a bigger draw card for ratings
38:41
Speaker 1: is I think there was a missed opportunity. I would
38:44
Speaker 1: have loved for Ronan to be just fantastic with kids
38:50
Speaker 1: in the same way. You know we saw Rodney in
38:52
Speaker 1: season one can't deal with kids, terrible with his niece.
38:56
Speaker 1: I would have loved when they all went to the
38:58
Speaker 1: Miller's house. I would have loved for and to just
39:00
Speaker 1: be completely obsessed and enamored with Madison was the little
39:06
Speaker 1: girl's name, like Jeanie's daughter, and then those who just
39:09
Speaker 1: get on like a house on fire, like he's given
39:11
Speaker 1: her piggyback rides and flipping her around, just being like
39:14
Speaker 1: the fine uncle and just being everything Rodney's not, and
39:18
Speaker 1: like Madison and Ronan just having this immediate connection and
39:21
Speaker 1: just falling so deeply in love with each other. Ye
39:24
Speaker 1: as like this uncle and nice kind of situation. I
39:26
Speaker 1: think that was such a missed opportunity because again, I
39:28
Speaker 1: feel like Ronan, even in this he was kind of
39:31
Speaker 1: didn't really do much, even for him going to Earth
39:33
Speaker 1: and us seeing him on Earth for the first time,
39:37
Speaker 1: we kind of missed that. And I think there was
39:38
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity because at the opening, when they were
39:43
Speaker 1: making cookies or something like that, he asks the father
39:47
Speaker 1: asks her, do you want to make this many cookies
39:49
Speaker 1: or one big cookie?
39:50
Speaker 2: And she's like one big cookie.
39:52
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, I went to Cole's a couple
39:54
Speaker 1: of months ago and I bought a roll of like
39:55
Speaker 1: pre made cookie dough, and it did say on the
39:57
Speaker 1: side of it, it says makes sixteen cookie all one
40:00
Speaker 1: big cookie, and I'm like, hold on a second, guys,
40:02
Speaker 1: hold the phone. But I'm like, I would have loved
40:06
Speaker 1: to just like rod and just be like, look what
40:07
Speaker 1: I found. And there's just like a giant cookie him
40:09
Speaker 1: in Madison, just walking around just with his giant cookie
40:11
Speaker 1: playing in the background.
40:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's the episode that I want to wall
40:14
Speaker 2: I know, I would have taken away from some of
40:16
Speaker 2: the seriousness when Rodney is talking to his brother in law,
40:19
Speaker 2: but then like the fact that they go and do
40:21
Speaker 2: that privately, and then if they were to come back,
40:24
Speaker 2: you know, you come downstairs two minutes later in the show,
40:27
Speaker 2: but it could be taking place ten fifteen minutes later whatever.
40:30
Speaker 2: And as they come down and you're looking around and
40:34
Speaker 2: we have Rodney just all Rodney Ronan just like runs past.
40:37
Speaker 2: He's like out in the backyard and they're just like, yeah,
40:39
Speaker 2: you know, firing off you know, NERF bullets at each
40:41
Speaker 2: other or you know, like yeah three, I mean, yeah,
40:43
Speaker 2: be playing.
40:44
Speaker 1: Doing the spin that he does with his blaster. Imagine
40:46
Speaker 1: him doing that with a NERF gun.
40:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. In the sand
40:49
Speaker 2: pit together, they're building blocks, so whatever she might be,
40:52
Speaker 2: he's playing princesses or something with her. He's out there
40:55
Speaker 2: hour on, yeah, role playing inside some kind of like
40:58
Speaker 2: yeah exactly, and he would be like, you said, love it,
41:00
Speaker 2: But it would have just been such a such a
41:02
Speaker 2: flip from like the brother in law saying this is
41:05
Speaker 2: all because of you and she's gonna die and we
41:07
Speaker 2: don't know. And again, the only time we've seen, the
41:10
Speaker 2: only thing that we've seen that's pointing us in any
41:12
Speaker 2: direction is that this was a serious unit because they
41:14
Speaker 2: busted in their house. They lasers pointed at her head,
41:17
Speaker 2: ready to fire bullets and kill everybody, blah blah blah.
41:20
Speaker 2: And yeah, to just flip it over with Ronan all
41:24
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, yeah, playing in.
41:26
Speaker 1: The in the background, like teaching her how to be
41:28
Speaker 1: a runner. Yeah, Like they're like they're like hunting her
41:31
Speaker 1: pet rabbit in the backyard or something like that.
41:33
Speaker 2: She comes up, she's like, Daddy, Ronan told me how
41:35
Speaker 2: to stab a man in the neck from behind. Yeah,
41:38
Speaker 2: come up. He's just like full this jab jab jab
41:40
Speaker 2: jab in the jugular. That would have been great. Don't
41:42
Speaker 2: even think about that.
41:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ronan told me how to gut MOPSI you know
41:46
Speaker 1: what I mean?
41:46
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, well okay, going back to the thing
41:48
Speaker 2: that I said before though, like I was like, well,
41:50
Speaker 2: the CUE is not going to happen because then they
41:51
Speaker 2: have to find reasons to not apply it on a
41:55
Speaker 2: grand level. And if that's the case, if they keep
41:57
Speaker 2: doing that, then what's the point of any this. If
42:01
Speaker 2: they're not out there to further our technology and to
42:03
Speaker 2: explore for the benefit of the humanity, then what do
42:05
Speaker 2: we as a show? What are you trying to say
42:08
Speaker 2: to us? Like what layer of bullshit can you keep
42:11
Speaker 2: giving to us when it's not just yeah, we just
42:12
Speaker 2: want to go and shoot vampire aliens, you know, like
42:15
Speaker 2: in the end, that's kind of what this is about.
42:18
Speaker 2: But they don't because it doesn't work for the daughter,
42:23
Speaker 2: or it did because you know they the heart stopped
42:25
Speaker 2: because they were trying to fix it. Now she's back,
42:27
Speaker 2: but then you know, shit happened anyway. Jeanie's a separate story,
42:31
Speaker 2: and it was such a great moment where he's like, well,
42:33
Speaker 2: I had to break a legs, so what did they Well,
42:35
Speaker 2: it gives the NAO something to fix, and then it'll
42:37
Speaker 2: start moving through to her to her brain. You know.
42:40
Speaker 2: They they do fix the coding so they did like well,
42:45
Speaker 2: I mean, they did their job. They what did he
42:47
Speaker 2: end up doing in the end do they They're they're inactive,
42:49
Speaker 2: they're they're not actually out to be little health robots
42:52
Speaker 2: like he sort of took that away so that they,
42:55
Speaker 2: you know, with the Q is not there anymore, is
42:57
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, that's sort of the end of yes.
42:59
Speaker 1: Because bas the what the what the the nanoprobes? That'd
43:03
Speaker 1: be a that's true. What what the replicators did to
43:09
Speaker 1: fix her is they just did a hard reset like computer,
43:12
Speaker 1: They switched her on and switch her back on again,
43:14
Speaker 1: which she was brained it. She lost all them you know,
43:16
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So while yes, it did
43:19
Speaker 1: cure cancer, it also cures life, you know what I mean.
43:22
Speaker 1: You know, so it's it's not a it's not a
43:24
Speaker 1: viable cure in that if you have cancer and you
43:27
Speaker 1: want to have your mind wiped and be brain dead,
43:29
Speaker 1: sure we can give you this. We can give you
43:31
Speaker 1: this cure. But I guess ninety percent of people would say, well, that's.
43:34
Speaker 2: Not really a cure, is it.
43:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's still it's you're still losing the person
43:39
Speaker 1: that it is quote unquote.
43:40
Speaker 2: See and I think we've we've played around for the
43:41
Speaker 2: idea of it before with the Wraith or maybe some
43:43
Speaker 2: aliens in n S G One, But the idea of
43:45
Speaker 2: like if we had to feed wraith prisoners, it's like
43:48
Speaker 2: get some lookers on death row, you know, like that's
43:50
Speaker 2: some real dark shit. Yeah, But if you're otherwise going
43:52
Speaker 2: to like firing squad or or you know, lethal injections
43:57
Speaker 2: or electric chair or whatever, it's like, well, we could
44:00
Speaker 2: do that, or we could let an alien prisoner feed
44:03
Speaker 2: off him and they're still dead and our asset stays live. Again.
44:06
Speaker 2: Dark shit they're never gonna, never gonna get into. But
44:10
Speaker 2: it's like that could almost be treatment for like hardcore prisoners.
44:13
Speaker 2: You put those nanos in full body mind reset, they
44:16
Speaker 2: come out there a clean slate again. They can go
44:18
Speaker 2: off into society and you train them up to be
44:20
Speaker 2: a normal, functioning, non evil human being. Like again, they're
44:24
Speaker 2: never going to do anything like that. They're gonna do that.
44:26
Speaker 2: They may as well turn you know, the a stargate
44:29
Speaker 2: into a garbage shoot, you know, to go to poop
44:31
Speaker 2: planet or something. Because we're thinking of far more practical
44:33
Speaker 2: things and a way to use technology beyond the actual
44:36
Speaker 2: narrative of the show. But it's just yeah, a shame.
44:39
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, we're gonna dangle this carrot over with
44:40
Speaker 2: a little cure. It actually does work. It just works
44:44
Speaker 2: really well. Unfortunately.
44:45
Speaker 1: It was like a Twilight Zone kind of thing.
44:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like the race can come along it. Yeah,
44:49
Speaker 2: I've changed the coding, so that'll stop. It's like, can
44:51
Speaker 2: you fix it so that it does the thing that
44:52
Speaker 2: we want it to do? Oh nah, couldn't possibly do that?
44:55
Speaker 2: Like show ends. Oh okay, cool, so we're back to
44:58
Speaker 2: kind of resetting it. So that's but yeah, baby steps,
45:02
Speaker 2: baby steps, Yeah yeah, yeah, cure and then it'll be canceled.
45:06
Speaker 1: Something was a little bit odd though, as I noticed
45:08
Speaker 1: is when Genie and Rodney were escaping, is they were
45:10
Speaker 1: hit with like zas.
45:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
45:13
Speaker 1: Now they weren't entars because ntars, which we have existed
45:16
Speaker 1: for seven eight years now, had the little red things underneath,
45:20
Speaker 1: the little red crystals and shop the red bolts. This
45:22
Speaker 1: was pretty much shooting like little zat bolts. Yeah, so
45:26
Speaker 1: they like they were handguns.
45:27
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have they sort of manufactured their own with all
45:29
Speaker 2: their like research and stuff.
45:30
Speaker 1: They don't mention it, no, never, I don't think it's
45:32
Speaker 1: ever seen again or not the same thing.
45:34
Speaker 2: It looks like a zat blast, but it does that
45:37
Speaker 2: sound effect. And they're holding earth handguns. Yea.
45:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the closest we've seen that there's an n
45:41
Speaker 1: tar which has the yeah, the red crystal on the
45:44
Speaker 1: base of the of the grip handle.
45:46
Speaker 2: Craig, Sorry, I don't know.
45:47
Speaker 1: The gun turns and yeah, shoots the little red bolts
45:50
Speaker 1: that knock people.
45:51
Speaker 2: Out, which on a mass scale level would be so
45:53
Speaker 2: good for humans. Rather than having to carry around projectile
45:57
Speaker 2: you know, ammunition runs out, you could have these handguns,
46:01
Speaker 2: guns that you are familiar with holding. It's our it's
46:03
Speaker 2: our type and style of weapons, but their energy weapons.
46:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, exactly.
46:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, we never see it again.
46:11
Speaker 1: A couple of housekeeping things though, If anyone noticed the
46:16
Speaker 1: table in the middle of the room where Rodney and
46:19
Speaker 1: Genie were working, the kind of triangular shaped silver medal table,
46:23
Speaker 1: you take all the computer screens off it, that is
46:26
Speaker 1: the table from and you send us a picture of
46:28
Speaker 1: it the other day. Mitch from the season three episode
46:31
Speaker 1: uh fair Game, where we have the treaty meeting before
46:36
Speaker 1: you ouled us and the Asgar. Yes, that's the triangular
46:39
Speaker 1: meeting table that we all sit down at at that one.
46:41
Speaker 1: They've repurposed that for this episode.
46:43
Speaker 2: I did only randomly send a photo of that to
46:45
Speaker 2: the team because we had a like came up on Instagram.
46:49
Speaker 2: When they get into gate page By, I'll give them
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Speaker 2: a shout out. Alex Poffus so a little bit of
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Speaker 2: apof it. Liked your photo and I'm like, that looks
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Speaker 2: like a very old episode. It's from the episode we
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Speaker 2: posted in October twenty seventeen, so seven and a half
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Speaker 2: years on. Didn't like anything else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just went deep and it was an accidental
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Speaker 1: double day. As he's like rolling through he.
47:10
Speaker 2: Was looking for nudes and unfortunately double tapped.
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Speaker 1: Now you gotta hit up my dms for those.
47:14
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so yeah, you gotta work for it. That
47:16
Speaker 2: shit for free.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
47:19
Speaker 2: And then the other thing.
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Speaker 1: If you notice during the montage of like Rodney and
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Speaker 1: Jeannie and the Wraith and stuff working, at a certain point,
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Speaker 1: they pan across the Wraith's face and his tattoo is
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Speaker 1: on the wrong side of his face because they mirror
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Speaker 1: imaged it. They flipped the image in in posts just
47:36
Speaker 1: to have him walking in a more sensible direction or whatever.
47:38
Speaker 1: But if you notice, it's actually a reverse shot because
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Speaker 1: his tattoo is on the wrong side, right.
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Speaker 2: I was more so I probably would normally notice things
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Speaker 2: like that, but I was just looking at the.
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Speaker 1: Blink and you'll miss it kind of right. It's not
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Speaker 1: like a huge close up anything like that.
47:52
Speaker 2: I think because he was so still didn't say anything.
47:54
Speaker 2: He was just standing there looking so long that I
47:56
Speaker 2: was looking at his skin and just thinking.
47:58
Speaker 1: About anyone's in a bit of shadow kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: So I think that's why they thought they could get.
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Speaker 2: Away with it. And there are some like great detail
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Speaker 2: like those yea, like tatty slice like almost like you know,
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Speaker 2: gills almost like little gashes and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Nostrils, Yeah, they do their cheeks.
48:11
Speaker 2: And they look deep, so that details great. The skin
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Speaker 2: that it's always so like oily and shiny looking and
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Speaker 2: stuff that looks great. And I was thinking, I wonder,
48:22
Speaker 2: it's like it's it's it's a shame almost that they
48:24
Speaker 2: didn't like really alter the color of their skin when
48:27
Speaker 2: they needed to feed, just to sort of add that element,
48:29
Speaker 2: like it's such a that would be much more visual
48:31
Speaker 2: representation of their hunger and there and their gray.
48:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, something something sickly, even tailor than what they are.
48:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, they already look creepy, and.
48:41
Speaker 1: That would have been a nice way to retcon that
48:43
Speaker 1: weird queen we saw at the end of season two,
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Speaker 1: the real Earth, like the real human looking one with
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Speaker 1: like the pink skin and the Yeah maybe she just
48:51
Speaker 1: needed to feed.
48:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have taken that, But I guess three
48:53
Speaker 2: and a half seasons in we can't really make those changes.
48:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know they've added that guns. Yeah, and
49:00
Speaker 1: for anyone who's been waiting, we're not gonna blue ball you,
49:02
Speaker 1: and they'll give it a pay off of Coles. We're
49:04
Speaker 1: going to reference it and make sure that everyone knows
49:06
Speaker 1: about it.
49:07
Speaker 2: One of the highlights.
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Speaker 3: But I'm nervous, right because you know it's an admiral
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Speaker 3: I'm talking too. So I say to him, sir, if
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Speaker 3: you use an I thirty seven form instead of an
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Speaker 3: N one, you can save yourself from using like like
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Speaker 3: like one hundred G seventy two's. And there's this pause.
49:26
Speaker 3: No one says anything for like I don't know, fell
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Speaker 3: like minutes. Finally, the Admiral looks over at Landry and
49:32
Speaker 3: he goes Hank not only is your boy here, right,
49:37
Speaker 3: But I think we found ourselves a new Bingo caller
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Speaker 3: for someday else birl I thirty seven N one G
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Speaker 3: seventy two Bingo.
49:51
Speaker 2: Whoever said the Admiral didn't have a sense of humor?
49:54
Speaker 3: Oh well, then there was this other time that General
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Speaker 3: O'Neil we were to have.
49:59
Speaker 2: Something just someone, yeah, some of you to shoot I'll
50:03
Speaker 2: get yeah, yeah, holy shit. That made me laugh. Just
50:06
Speaker 2: the idea of those two like that felt like fan
50:08
Speaker 2: fix of the ship, Like what what kind of situation I know,
50:12
Speaker 2: Walter and Ronan sitting down eating lunch together and be
50:15
Speaker 2: like that is so weird. Let's make it happen, And
50:18
Speaker 2: they put it in the show. And that's how you
50:21
Speaker 2: use Walter.
50:21
Speaker 1: And then that's why I don't begrudge the fact that
50:23
Speaker 1: we didn't get Ronan and Madison doing that stuff, because
50:26
Speaker 1: we got we got this scene, which I think is
50:28
Speaker 1: you know, is a fair comprimend.
50:29
Speaker 2: Just how not even bored, It's just more like unimpressed
50:33
Speaker 2: and just drained he was from having to listen to
50:37
Speaker 2: that ship.
50:37
Speaker 1: And remember in a Wind of Opportunity when Tilk would
50:40
Speaker 1: just like close the door guy, when every time we
50:41
Speaker 1: started the cycle. It's giving that.
50:44
Speaker 2: And that beautiful innocent Walter like just not appreciating.
50:48
Speaker 1: Not getting it at all.
50:50
Speaker 2: That that's what was going on, you know, and look
50:53
Speaker 2: far too big of became if you're not gonna have Carter.
50:54
Speaker 2: But you know, Ronan and Tilk walking past each other.
50:57
Speaker 1: In the hallways like just I got bad news for you.
51:01
Speaker 2: Something you don't have to say it, but also don't
51:04
Speaker 2: say it. But it would have just been.
51:06
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who do you reckon it went in
51:08
Speaker 1: a fight. N has got his blaster, till Scott is
51:14
Speaker 1: double double dildo staff weapon.
51:17
Speaker 2: I mean, old school Tilk definitely would have had more stamina.
51:20
Speaker 2: But I don't I don't know. Now I'm starting to
51:23
Speaker 2: feel there's some fanfic for you know, that great thing
51:25
Speaker 2: that's been going around. I mean you might be you
51:27
Speaker 2: hate it. I just love the reels and tiktoks that
51:29
Speaker 2: have come out of it. But the one hundred men
51:30
Speaker 2: versus a gorilla I thing, yeah, going on over the
51:32
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. And then someone asked Robert Irwin
51:35
Speaker 2: and and he's like, look, I've been asked this a lot,
51:40
Speaker 2: so I thought I'd finally open it up and actually
51:43
Speaker 2: give him my answer, and then he just gave the
51:45
Speaker 2: most politically like boring corrected. He's like, you know, these
51:50
Speaker 2: are endangered animals, so I don't think we should be
51:52
Speaker 2: fighting them at all. I'm like, dude, that's it's gonna hypothetic.
51:55
Speaker 2: Can we just have fun with it?
51:56
Speaker 1: Just go stand overy. Then you're on with you're painted
51:58
Speaker 1: on abs mate, And he's like.
51:59
Speaker 2: But if we put that aside in the end, these
52:03
Speaker 2: gorillas they're not actually aggressive creatures, you know, like you
52:06
Speaker 2: would really have to antagonize them to make them want
52:09
Speaker 2: to fight you, so there would be no need to
52:11
Speaker 2: I'm like, just answer the fucking question. Just say that
52:14
Speaker 2: these things are like bread like strength, like they are
52:19
Speaker 2: born as just these apex like muscle machines, and that
52:23
Speaker 2: they would of course obliterated human if it ever got
52:26
Speaker 2: to that. You don't have to then say I'm all
52:28
Speaker 2: for animal cruelty. You don't say that you want to
52:30
Speaker 2: harambe this situation. You want to throw a man or
52:33
Speaker 2: a person into an arena where a gorilla might do
52:36
Speaker 2: something to them, Just come on so here I am.
52:39
Speaker 2: You're like, who would win a fight? And I'm like,
52:42
Speaker 2: but why do we have to make them fight. I
52:44
Speaker 2: like both of them.
52:45
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