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Melvin the Casket Guy · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go first. I don't care my case is
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  Speaker 1: a little a little shorter than yours. Go Firstcuffer Starr
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  Speaker 1: to Judge mathis my faith, Yes, Judge matthis this is
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  Speaker 1: an oldie, but a goodie. I feel like Devin Harris,
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  Speaker 1: I don't her name might be pronounced Davon, but I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he says Devin. I don't know, Devin Harris
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  Speaker 1: is suing her former This is former lover, I wrote
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  Speaker 1: down former lover. They must have said it. They must
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  Speaker 1: have said it. I wouldn't have written down former lover
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  Speaker 1: out of nowhere they said. That is suing her former lover,
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  Speaker 1: Waddell Smith for five thousand dollars. Whoa Waddell counter suing
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  Speaker 1: for five thousand dollars. Devon says, I met Wadell years ago.
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  Speaker 1: He came off as okay till he drank. When he drank,
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  Speaker 1: he became violent. Okay. So just so just domestic abuse
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  Speaker 1: right off the bat. Mathis you'd think he would really
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  Speaker 1: be like serious about this. Instead, he says, we call
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  Speaker 1: those beer muscles. And that's a decision. Joe matthis, Judge
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  Speaker 1: matthis made that I think is wrong. It's a bad
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  Speaker 1: decision on the part of Judge mathis no longer my faith. Math. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you can't. You can't. A person can't tell you.
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  Speaker 3: That they've been abused and then you make a joke
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  Speaker 3: beer muscles, beer muscles.
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  Speaker 1: That's tough. She's suing her former lover Waddell Smith. Devon says,
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  Speaker 1: uh that Waddell in March asked to use my car,
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  Speaker 1: he said. Matthew says, were you all datede dating at
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  Speaker 1: the time? Where's my car. Waddell says, no, you're, Honor,
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  Speaker 1: We weren't dating at the time. I just asked to
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  Speaker 1: use your car. Uh uh. Devon looks a little less
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  Speaker 1: sure that they weren't dating. Mathis says, did you guys
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  Speaker 1: have relations? Devon says, yes, off and on, we had relations.
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  Speaker 1: That's usually Mathis so sex buddies. So Mathis has all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of jokes today. For some reason or another. Waddell
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  Speaker 1: says she was the neighborhood you know, your honor. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: and then he says, she took a speckle speckle, she
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  Speaker 1: took a special liking speed, she took a special liking
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  Speaker 1: to me. Uh. And she tried to put two of
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  Speaker 1: her kids on me, basically saying that I was the
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  Speaker 1: father of two of her kids.
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  Speaker 3: So they had been They had been at least in
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  Speaker 3: some way, shape or form connected for multiple multiple years
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  Speaker 3: two kids to be Boln correct, multiple years.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and in fact this place, this case takes place
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  Speaker 1: in the late two thousands. She references meeting him in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, so they've known each other for fifteen
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  Speaker 1: years or more. Devon's like, that's not true, your on or,
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  Speaker 1: I ever did that? What was like, your honor, she
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  Speaker 1: tried to murder me. Devon says, you're on right, didn't
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  Speaker 1: do that. He thought the child was his. He took
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  Speaker 1: a paternity test, he says, your honor, I didn't think
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  Speaker 1: the child was mine. But if you refuse the paternity test,
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  Speaker 1: they grant the custom. They basically say that it's your kid,
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  Speaker 1: you have to take the paternity test. And where I'm
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  Speaker 1: from in Michigan, and Devon's like that's not true. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: it is true, matthis is like whatever, move on. The
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  Speaker 1: kids weren't yours, and he said, and he says, you're right,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't mine. Says I told him. He tried to
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  Speaker 1: come use my car. I told him he could not
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  Speaker 1: use my car. We got into a physical altercation, and
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  Speaker 1: then he took my keys from me and left. This
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  Speaker 1: is sad. He took my keys, left of my car,
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  Speaker 1: and then he got an accident in my car, and
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  Speaker 1: then when the police showed up, he fled the scene
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  Speaker 1: of the accident.
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  Speaker 3: This is always my fear when I borrow someone's car.
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  Speaker 3: It's like if I get in a crash, this is
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  Speaker 3: going to complicate that.
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  Speaker 1: Shock you learn. I've never had that fear in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Not once have I had a fear about wrecking somebody
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  Speaker 1: else's car. We just don't care about people as much
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  Speaker 1: as I do. I guess, I guess that's what it is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you've driven my blazer, I know, and I'm always a
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  Speaker 1: little bit concerned, a little bit concerned. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: anything to get in the way of what we have,
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  Speaker 1: what we have. Do you think it would I don't
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  Speaker 1: think if you wrecked my Blazer, I would be like
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  Speaker 1: different towards you. There's so many things that could happen.
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  Speaker 1: I would hope not I would hope you're okay, but
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't let you drive it if I didn't care
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  Speaker 1: more about you. I understand that. But let's sayings.
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  Speaker 3: But let's just say I got drunk before I took
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  Speaker 3: the car, Right That complicated things?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it does. But I think that what
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  Speaker 1: would happen between us would have little to do with
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  Speaker 1: my car and a lot to do with your drinking.
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  Speaker 1: You know what totally messed me up, though, And I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you this right now. You know who did Cinderella?
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  Speaker 1: Is that? Who did Cinderella? Disney Prince Michael W. Stephen Curtis. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Curtis Chapman.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so Stephen Curtis's kid, Yeah backed, now we're real serious. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: So Stephen Curtis's kid, just driving the family car, was
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  Speaker 3: backing out of the driveway, ran over his kid's sister
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  Speaker 3: that died.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I am on gavel, we're doing it. I think
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  Speaker 1: about that almost every time I back up. I think
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  Speaker 1: about that whenever I pull into the driveway. Really, I
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  Speaker 1: always am like, I drive fairly fast, as you might know,
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  Speaker 1: and when I pull in the driveway, I always immediately,
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  Speaker 1: like almost come to a complete stop because in my
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  Speaker 1: head it's like my kid could run at it in
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  Speaker 1: a minute. Yeah, I think about all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Stephen Curtis Chapman's story affected us all in different Ways's right,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't believe we got here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the But but my what I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying is is my car is not that important. Your
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  Speaker 1: your friendship is more important than my car. Is. Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's try uh, let's try right. Start drinking now, all right?
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  Speaker 1: So she says, he fled the scene, and then I
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  Speaker 1: followed the police report on him. He and he went
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  Speaker 1: to jail. He actually served jail time, and he got
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  Speaker 1: out of jail started harassing me. I got a restraining
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  Speaker 1: order on him. This all led why did he start
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  Speaker 1: harassing her? She I think it's I don't know exactly,
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  Speaker 1: but you need to hear this. She says, he got
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  Speaker 1: a jail and started harassing me. I got a restraining
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  Speaker 1: or on him, a restraining order on him. Then he
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  Speaker 1: came to my house and this all led to me
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  Speaker 1: having to shoot him. So I want to be very clear.
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  Speaker 1: She admits in the courtroom to using a gun on brandished, brandished, brandished, brandished,
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  Speaker 1: branded brandish, your weapon, Uh, mathes Is, why did you
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  Speaker 1: shoot him? And she said he came back at me
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  Speaker 1: again and I was ready, and Matthew goes, I bet
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  Speaker 1: he didn't do it again, did he? And everybody laughed,
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  Speaker 1: and then Mathis explains so that she should.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Mathis then explains something that I would love a lawyer's
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  Speaker 1: take on. I can't imagine this being true, which is
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  Speaker 1: you were allowed to defend yourself with like force or
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  Speaker 1: like weaponry. And what that means is is that like
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  Speaker 1: he uses two examples, He's like, one example, if you
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  Speaker 1: could prove that the man was bigger or stronger than you,
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  Speaker 1: then you would need a weapon to equal that strength.
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  Speaker 1: So Mathis said, if I thought someone who was a
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  Speaker 1: martial artist and could use their body as a weapon,
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  Speaker 1: then I could have a gun to equal that out.
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  Speaker 1: That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Yeah. Now I
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  Speaker 1: would all for her shooting this guy if he was
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  Speaker 1: abusing her, Like, I'm all for it. But that is
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  Speaker 1: a wild thing that I didn't know as part of
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  Speaker 1: the law. If it is part of life.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds pretty similar to Florida standard ground law.
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  Speaker 3: Stand your ground though, is is like, if you are
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  Speaker 3: even remotely intimidated by what's going on, you can use
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  Speaker 3: your weapon. Yeah, I mean I hate to stay in
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  Speaker 3: your ground all though, this sounds like it would be
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  Speaker 3: more in the favor of the person who is defenseless
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  Speaker 3: than stay in your ground. Okay, stand your ground is
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  Speaker 3: just like you don't like what's going on? Yeah, light
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  Speaker 3: them up, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. So he explains this, uh to the courtroom. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I lost my place entirely used the weapon, and then
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  Speaker 1: he and Mathis was talking about it. Yeah. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: what else, like, first of all, your honor before we
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  Speaker 1: go any further, there is no record of me battering
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  Speaker 1: this woman at all. I didn't put my hands on her.
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  Speaker 1: That's not true. You know that raattering? He said, battering.
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  Speaker 1: Wow to the word battering. He goes, look at the
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  Speaker 1: police reports, look at anything you want to look at
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  Speaker 1: that is not that's not true. Mathis says, did you
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  Speaker 1: go to jail? He says, yes, I went to jail,
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  Speaker 1: and he goes, but it wasn't for abuse. It was
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  Speaker 1: for fleeing the scene of a car accident. She reported
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  Speaker 1: the cars stolen. I fled because I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: get arrested for stealing a vehicle, knowing I felt like
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  Speaker 1: I didn't steal it. I have the police report right here.
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  Speaker 1: You can look at this police report. It says nothing
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  Speaker 1: about abuse, nothing about physical education, nothing but any of that.
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  Speaker 3: That's not what this is about, as matthis saying that
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  Speaker 3: because you went to jail for stealing her car when
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  Speaker 3: you show back up on her property, it is reasonable
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  Speaker 3: to assume that there is some.
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  Speaker 1: Mathistist's say that, but that's what he's inferring. Sure, And
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  Speaker 1: then he says, were you convicted of a crime, and
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  Speaker 1: he says, yes, of fleeing the scene. I served six
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  Speaker 1: months in jail. He goes, six months in jail for
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  Speaker 1: fleeing the scene. I don't believe you. I don't believe
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  Speaker 1: it was for that. Was this your first conviction? Wad
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  Speaker 1: Elvin says, I couldn't post the bond, so I had
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  Speaker 1: to sit there until they let me out, until the
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  Speaker 1: process was done, and he said. Mathis goes, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: you said you played guilty. You said you played guilty,
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  Speaker 1: which means you wouldn't have to sit around for a bond.
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  Speaker 1: They would just sentence you at that time. And there's
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  Speaker 1: no way they sentenced you for six months just for
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  Speaker 1: fleeing the scene of the crime. He says, your honor,
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  Speaker 1: I signed a plea bargain. Then they released me. And
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  Speaker 1: he goes, I feel like you're changing your story. And
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  Speaker 1: he says, first of all, it says abuse nowhere on there.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't abuse her. Second of all, I have hospital
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  Speaker 1: bills from where she shot me, and I'm gonna I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna deliver those to the front right now. And then
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  Speaker 1: Matthis without blinking, goes, Okay, how much time did she get?
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  Speaker 1: She shot you twice? How much jail time did she get?
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  Speaker 1: He said, I don't know she shot me in the
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  Speaker 1: shoulder and in the leg. He goes. He turns to
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  Speaker 1: Devon and goes, were you Were you convicted and sentence
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  Speaker 1: to jail for shooting this man? Devon goes. No, Mathis goes,
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  Speaker 1: why do you think she shot you twice and wasn't convicted?
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  Speaker 1: Waddell says, she, first of all, your honor, she shot
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  Speaker 1: me because I was with another woman. She was mad
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  Speaker 1: that I wasn't her kids FI and if she couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have me, then nobody could have me. Then she opened fire.
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  Speaker 1: That's what happened. She opened fire. There was no feuding
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  Speaker 1: back and forth. She invited me to a party. She
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  Speaker 1: invited me to her house. I came invited, and then
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  Speaker 1: when she saw was with another woman, she shot me twice.
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  Speaker 1: Do he have that invitation? That's what happened. We don't
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  Speaker 1: have that invitation. No Mathis goes, did the did you
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  Speaker 1: tell the police that? Did you tell the police what
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  Speaker 1: you just told me? He says, yes, sir, he said,
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  Speaker 1: all right, read it on the police report. Read it
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  Speaker 1: that you told the police that you came to her
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  Speaker 1: house invited and then she shot you. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to say that he says, well, doesn't say that,
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  Speaker 1: but when I filed the police report after being I
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  Speaker 1: did file a police report on her after being shot.
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  Speaker 1: So uh, Mathis goes, ma'am, you were never arrested for
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  Speaker 1: shooting this man. Never And she goes, no, I wasn't arrested,
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  Speaker 1: and he says, can you prove that she shot you?
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  Speaker 1: He said, yeah, here's the police report after she shot
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  Speaker 1: me where I talked to the police. The police report
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  Speaker 1: says that he was on top of her. She fired
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  Speaker 1: her first shot off he got off of her. She
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  Speaker 1: fired a second shot. That's what it says. Mathis is
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  Speaker 1: ready to rule. That's not good. What is she suing for?
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  Speaker 1: She's suing for the he wrecked her car wrecked the car, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: she not. In short, that is all I got to
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  Speaker 1: why she's sue him for five thousand dollars. I'll give
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  Speaker 1: her the money because it's pretty clear he's a liar,
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  Speaker 1: and I think the police report proves that. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to give him the money, even though I'm not
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  Speaker 1: totally sure about the logistics of the Mathis is like
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  Speaker 1: judgment for the plane. If you clearly abused her and
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  Speaker 1: then you tried to do it again, and she showed
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  Speaker 1: you what was up. She showed you what happened. All
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  Speaker 1: of that is well and good. Doesn't have anything to
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  Speaker 1: do with the car. And I don't know why I am.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I might have missed at the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: It might be automobile stuff and emotional distress or harassment
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  Speaker 1: or anything that would be granted this money. He's gotta
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  Speaker 1: be right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you would think so, because they didn't spend nearly
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  Speaker 3: enough time on the bar.
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  Speaker 1: No all, no, no, no, they got they got passed.
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  Speaker 1: That pretty interesting. I mean she shot at point blank twice,
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  Speaker 1: so good for her. Uh. Interesting case, Yeah, interesting case.
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  Speaker 1: Let's head over to Judge Faith. Shall we love?
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  Speaker 3: Where Larry Jones Larry suing Melvin Bray for eighteen hundred
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  Speaker 3: dollars the cost of a casket, and Melvin Bray is
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  Speaker 3: countersuing twenty five hundred dollars for slander.
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready. Larry Jones' mom passed away
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  Speaker 1: and he began to look for a casket. As he's
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  Speaker 1: preparing for the ceremony, his friend tells him about Melvin
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  Speaker 1: Melvin can get you a Casketlvin Melvin's a casket.
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  Speaker 3: Guy, casket guy. So he uh gets it's a call
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  Speaker 3: from Melvin. I guess his buddy told Melvin, hey give
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  Speaker 3: Larry a call and told him to send me a
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  Speaker 3: picture of the casket that you want and I'll get
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  Speaker 3: it for you for a good price.
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  Speaker 1: Signed men the casket God. That's exactly right. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: So Larry goes to the funeral home checking out caskets,
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  Speaker 3: takes a picture of the one that he likes and
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  Speaker 3: not at all just send it over to him, and
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  Speaker 3: Melvin tells Larry that it's going to be eighteen hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 3: so he writes him a check for eighteen hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 3: He arrives at the mortuary and the casket is not
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  Speaker 3: the casket that he ordered. Dan the casket God, I understand,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not the casket that he ordered, so he
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  Speaker 3: decides not to use it and decides to use a
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  Speaker 3: casket that the mortuary had on sites that was also
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  Speaker 3: very nice. It cost him three thousand dollars, so all
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  Speaker 3: in all done, he's out forty eight dollars on caskets,
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  Speaker 3: one of which he's not going to use. We see
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  Speaker 3: a picture of the casket that he wanted compared to
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  Speaker 3: the one that he guts. It is relatively similar. The
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  Speaker 3: one that he got definitely looks cheaper. The handles aren't
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  Speaker 3: the same. There's no praying hands on it, which was
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  Speaker 3: a big deal Larry. It's also a twenty gauge casket
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  Speaker 3: in seven eighteen. Gage, I don't really know what that means.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know what. I don't know. Apparently not.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really understand what that means, but not the
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  Speaker 3: gauge that he wanted. Melvin explains that he didn't just
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  Speaker 3: get him a casket based off a picture. He sat
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  Speaker 3: down with Larry showed him a casket catalog and pointed
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  Speaker 3: to the one that he wanted, and that's the one
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: he got. Larry says, I never looked at a catalog
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: with Melvin.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I looked at a catalog at the mortuary. I looked
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: at caskets at the mortuary. I did him. I sent
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: him the pictures along with the info. She asks for
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: a text.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Of him sitting that information, and Larry says, I do
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: not have that text. Melvin insists that he came to
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: his house and showed him the catalog. She asks for
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: paperwork showcasing that he purchased from him, and he says
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: he doesn't have any paperwork. Melvin Cask doesn't deal in
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: paper work. He doesn't have any paper right now. He says,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't anticipate being sued. It's been two years since
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: this happened. I didn't save any paperwork.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: She asked Larry why it took.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: So long to sue, and he says, well, he was
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: told by Melvin that he'd get his money back, which
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: he never did, so I finally had to sue him.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, he doesn't have proof of that. Melvin says, no,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I never said that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I told him I would take the casket back and
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: try to sell it, and when I do, I will
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: get you your money back.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: She asked Larry where the casket is now. He says
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: that it is still at the mortuary. They said they
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: would hold on to it in case I needed to
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: sue mortuary.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Doing a mortuary is out here. You went with Melvin
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the casket.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Well, for you, you're probably gonna you're probably gonna wanna
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: wanna have this on hand.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: She asked Melvin one more time if he is sure
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: that that's the casket Larry picked out. Melvin says yes,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I am sure. She says, well, that makes Larry's action
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: seem kind of wild.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Melvin, he chose not to use your casket and spend
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: another three thousand dollars on top of what he already
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: spent for another casket. I'm not sure why he would
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: do that if you provided the casket that he requested.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Melvin says, well, it's all here on the receipt. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: do have a receipt and it says all sales are final.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Larry hands Larry has the receipt and he hands it
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: over and Larry says, as you can see on the receipt,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I ordered an eighteen gage.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: A twenty gauge. Does the receipt say what he ordered
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: or say what was provided? It says what he ordered.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: It's a receipt. It's a yes. So this is so
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: he It says in the receipt, here's what you ordered.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: You ordered a blah blah blah casket eighteen gauge, the
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: casket that showed up twenty gauge.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But he does say all sales are final? Does say
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: all sales are final? Interesting?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Uh, Faith asked Melvin, what's up with that? Melvin says,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: just stares at her, and she's like, are you gonna
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: answer her?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna stare at each other. He then stares
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: at the picture on the screen and he just says,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: that's the casket he chose.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Face says not according to the paperwork. She has Melvin
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: about his countersuit, and he says he's out there on
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: the streets talking, and she says what streets? And he
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: just shakes his head, and then he says something I've
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: never heard in all of our years.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I'm ready of yo gavel gavel, which is I wo
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: withdraw my countersuit? What that is said? Why?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: She says, you're just gonna with dry your catasuit based
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: on my question, which is what streets?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Was he talking? And he says, yeah, I'm gonna I'm
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: gonna withdraw, and she's ready to rule. Well, based upon
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Melvin's actions there at the end, I think Larr's getting
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: his money back. I don't know if it's that cut
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and dry, though, I honestly don't, because you went with
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a casket guy, first of all. Second of all, it
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: says all sales are final, and third of all, there's
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: no the only you don't have anything else, but you
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: just don't have anything else. It's that eighteen to twenty
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: gauge thing. I think she's based upon the fact that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: he didn't know how to answer the question and that
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: he writt like withdrew his countersuit immediately.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I think I think Larrer's getting his money eighteen hundreds.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Larry is getting his bunny. He's gonna get the eighteen
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars. But he does have to return the caskets
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and if Melvin wants to try to sell it again,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: he can.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: But in the after cam, in the.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Afterca call It on Jee faith Is Show, Melvin says
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: that he's going to donate the casket.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: To someone in the community. Look at that, Look at this.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I don't really know what happened to Melvin in this
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: in this court. Yeah, maybe it seems like something really
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: got to Melvin and he began to think about I
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but it at one and when
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: she asks him what he when he says he was
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: on the streets talking, and she says, what's what? What?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: What streets? It is as if he had he'd never
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: thought about this before, and it all just suddenly hits
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: him and he has a change of I don't know
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: what happened, but it was really something. So shout out Melvin,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: proof that he can. It's never too late. Did you
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: never too like to change even when you're in court,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: too late to do the right things what we did? Everybody? Congratulations?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Coming back next week. I think we should do this
• 21:49
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• 21:51
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