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SPECIAL EPISODE: Mastering the Marathon with Tina Muir, Angie Spencer, and Carrie Tollefson · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: Hey, hurdlers, popping into your feed with a super special
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Speaker 1: episode that was recorded last week leading up to the
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Speaker 1: New York City Marathon. I joined three superstar podcasters, all
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Speaker 1: of which I am sure that many of you listen
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Speaker 1: to on the regular. I've got Angie Spencer, host of
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Speaker 1: the Marathon Training Academy podcast, Carrie Tolofsen, host of the
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Speaker 1: See Totally Run podcast, as well as Tina Mure, host
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Speaker 1: of the Running for Real podcast, and the four of
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Speaker 1: us sat down with the help of our friends at
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Speaker 1: with running. I got a lot of messages from you
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Speaker 1: guys saying that you wish you could have been there,
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Speaker 1: you weren't in the New York City area, whatever the
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Speaker 1: case may be.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you were.
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Speaker 1: Taking it easy before crushing it over the weekend. So
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Speaker 1: I'm bringing this here. I really enjoyed the conversation live.
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Speaker 1: It's always super interesting to hear about different individuals experiences
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Speaker 3: You know, podcasting huge and a lot of us take
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Speaker 3: the opportunity when we're on the run into a podcast.
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Speaker 4: How did you.
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Speaker 3: Guys all get started? Can start with you? How did
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Speaker 3: you get started? In with your voice?
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Speaker 5: For me, podcasting came after my YouTube channel, which I
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Speaker 5: don't know, like I'm older now and I feel like
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Speaker 5: when I started youtubing, it was not really a thing,
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Speaker 5: and then podcasting became a bow and people might All
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Speaker 5: the people that I work with at See Tally.
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Speaker 4: Run were like, well, youtubing is kind of.
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Speaker 5: Maybe going away a little bit. Podcast is the next
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Speaker 5: big thing. And for me, those of you who know me,
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Speaker 5: I kind of say sorry after I screw up what
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Speaker 5: I'm on camera because I feel like I can be
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Speaker 5: a goofball and when I'm on the podcast is a
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Speaker 5: little different because it's like the radio voice.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 7: So it was a.
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Speaker 5: Scary thing for me to get into podcasting, but it
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Speaker 5: was fun, it was new, it was fresh, and to
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Speaker 5: be honest, I have loved having a little bit longer
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Speaker 5: conversation with my guest on the show. And so it's
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Speaker 5: really become something that's fueled me each week and hopefully
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Speaker 5: fuels a lot of you and some of the listeners
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Speaker 5: that tune in.
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Speaker 4: To see Tali run each week. But I just think the.
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Speaker 5: Inspiration of hearing everyone's journey, whether you're an Olympic athlete
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Speaker 5: like I am, or you are somebody that's just learning
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Speaker 5: how to run a five k or just not even
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Speaker 5: a runner yet just learning how to be you know,
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Speaker 5: motivated to get after it, which is my favorite saying.
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Speaker 4: So a long story short, it's kind of started.
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Speaker 5: You know, around and about and all the way around
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Speaker 5: and whatever you say. But it's been a great journey
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Speaker 5: and I've loved everyone.
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Speaker 4: And even.
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Speaker 7: Well for me.
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Speaker 8: It's interesting you mentioned about the video because I actually
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Speaker 8: started with I was working for a company called Runners Connect,
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Speaker 8: which some of you may have heard of. They had
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Speaker 8: a podcast that was pretty much dying of death. It
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Speaker 8: was really on its way out, and my boss said
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Speaker 8: to me, you can either start a video channel or
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Speaker 8: you can start a podcast.
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Speaker 7: And I had no clue what a.
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Speaker 8: Podcast was, but I knew that I'm not really kind
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Speaker 8: of the put together video type, so I opted for that.
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Speaker 7: Really started to enjoy it.
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Speaker 8: Although my first interview was Dave mcgillibray, which those of
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Speaker 8: you know who know of him the race director for
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Speaker 8: the Boston Marathon. Pretty you know, high up person to
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Speaker 8: start with. I was so nervous. There was echoing the
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Speaker 8: entire way round. I can't even listen to it now
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Speaker 8: because it was so terrible. But you know, hopefully a
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Speaker 8: progressed from there. Ended up starting my own podcast when
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Speaker 8: I left und Connect and similar to say Carrie, I
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Speaker 8: just really enjoy learning from people and it's interesting. This morning,
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Speaker 8: I was talking to someone who was asking me about
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Speaker 8: what else do you like besides running? And I was like,
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Speaker 8: you know what, I do like running, but actually that's
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Speaker 8: probably pretty like low down on my list of things
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Speaker 8: that I love because I the podcast for me is
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Speaker 8: about actually getting to know the people underneath the runner,
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Speaker 8: not so much the running itself.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess.
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Speaker 9: Back in two thousand and nine, my husband and co
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Speaker 9: host Trevor mentioned that he wanted to start a website
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Speaker 9: and a podcast, and my first question was what is
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Speaker 9: a podcast? I had no idea, And the second one
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Speaker 9: question I had for him was who's going to want
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Speaker 9: to listen to us? You know, I'm just a normal
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Speaker 9: everyday mom. I had run a couple of marathons. By then,
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Speaker 9: my husband wasn't even a runner, so I was like,
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Speaker 9: this is not going to work because no one wants
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Speaker 9: to hear me talk the whole time.
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Speaker 6: How can you do a running podcast if you're not
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Speaker 6: a runner.
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Speaker 9: So that was kind of the impetus for him to
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Speaker 9: start his running journey, and we kicked off early twenty ten,
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Speaker 9: so we're kind of old in podcasting years, but the
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Speaker 9: show has just really been inspiring for us because we've
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Speaker 9: been able to meet so many great guests, just talk
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Speaker 9: to everyday runners. That's one of our favorite parts is
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Speaker 9: getting to.
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Speaker 6: Interact with the listeners.
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Speaker 9: And like Tina was saying, our first guess of importance,
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Speaker 9: you know that was kind of big in the running world.
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Speaker 4: Was Bart Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So, and our audio and our connection was terrible. Kept
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Speaker 6: dropping the call.
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Speaker 10: I think they had to call him back like three times.
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Speaker 9: Of course, he's the most gracious person in the world
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Speaker 9: if you've ever had the chance to say hi to
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Speaker 9: Bart So, you know, after that inglorious start, we've been
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Speaker 9: doing it for a few years and definitely just being
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Speaker 9: able to have such amazing listeners is our favorite part.
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Speaker 9: And our tagline is you have what it takes to
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Speaker 9: run a marathon and change your life.
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Speaker 6: And people think it's.
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Speaker 9: Corny it first sometimes, but it sticks in your head
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Speaker 9: and I think anyone who's run a marathon can attests
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Speaker 9: of the life changing power that it has.
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Speaker 8: I just quickly jump in and say Angreen and Trevor
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Speaker 8: have had eight million downloads, which is just insane. I
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Speaker 8: just want to tell them up bettee, what is to
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Speaker 8: say it themselves?
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Speaker 1: I don't have eight million doubloads either? Do I two
7:17
Speaker 1: years young this December? Do I have any hurdlers in
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Speaker 1: the room? Any Hurdle pod? Yes, high hurdlers. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: coming again. My name is Emily Body. I if you
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Speaker 1: don't know the premise of Hurdle. Hurdle is a podcast
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Speaker 1: that talks to everyone from entrepreneurs to top CEOs about
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Speaker 1: how they got through tough times in their lives hurdles
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Speaker 1: of sorts by leaning into wellness. So a little deviation
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Speaker 1: from you, ladies, and that I feel like I'm a
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Speaker 1: little all encompassing of wellness and fitness, maybe a little
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Speaker 1: bit more as a whole.
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Speaker 4: With that said, I had my own hurdle.
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Speaker 1: Moment, as I like to refer to them, when I
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Speaker 1: was in college, I stepped on a scale, saw a
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Speaker 1: number that was very high for me at two hundred
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Speaker 1: and four pounds standing at five foot four, and knew
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Speaker 1: that I.
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Speaker 4: Needed to do something about it.
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Speaker 2: And it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: Until I started eating better and found a love for
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Speaker 1: running that I started to believe in myself and then
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Speaker 1: over time that seventy pound week loss came off. And
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Speaker 1: so inspired by my own hurdle moment, inspired by some
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Speaker 1: of the personal things that I was going through.
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Speaker 4: In my life, I decided to start connecting.
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Speaker 1: With other people and talk to these people that inspire
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Speaker 1: me about their journeys and how despite what you do,
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Speaker 1: whether you are Sadie Lincoln and you created Bar three,
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Speaker 1: or if your Dina Castor and your Dina Castor, that
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Speaker 1: we all have had times in our lives where I
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Speaker 1: don't want to swear I almost just did, where things
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Speaker 1: have gone wrong and we have leaned into wellness to.
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Speaker 2: Get through it.
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Speaker 1: So I'm so thankful again, I mean, on the Dina note,
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Speaker 1: we sat down together at a hotel in London. I've
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Speaker 1: recorded this everywhere from London to the Santa Monica streets
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Speaker 1: to Miami. So I'm so grateful for this journey and
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Speaker 1: where it's brought me, and I'm really excited to be
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Speaker 1: here with all of you tonight. So thanks so much
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Speaker 1: for having me.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna step out of the way because we've
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Speaker 3: got a whole bunch of expertise in this room. Thank
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Speaker 3: y'all for sharing how you got into podcasting in a
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Speaker 3: little bit of your background. I'm just gonna step out
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Speaker 3: of the way and let you guys take it over, all.
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Speaker 4: Right, barn.
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Speaker 5: So, since we're here for the New York City Marathon,
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Speaker 5: we have a little bit of different stuff.
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Speaker 8: One on.
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Speaker 5: None of us are racing, but I want to hear
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Speaker 5: from all of you why twenty six point two. I mean,
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Speaker 5: we've kind of heard you out your start to this
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Speaker 5: whole running thing, but why did you guys pick the
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Speaker 5: marathon and tell us maybe the inspiration behind it.
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Speaker 8: I can't really see how I saw when I was
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Speaker 8: running as an lait erner, how that could have not
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Speaker 8: been where I ended up being someone who was a
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Speaker 8: distance runner in college. And I did come over here
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Speaker 8: to the US to be to do my university, so
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Speaker 8: I was very much ingrained in the American system. It
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Speaker 8: just kind of was where you and up. I mean,
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Speaker 8: don't I look back now. And there are some people
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Speaker 8: who just do half marathons or go back to ten
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Speaker 8: k's and stay with that. But for me, I felt
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Speaker 8: like I didn't really have a choice, but I also
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Speaker 8: wanted to. I loved the idea of you know, I
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Speaker 8: always loved my long runs. I always quite enjoyed in college.
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Speaker 8: I would set off when we would drive vans to
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Speaker 8: where we were doing our long runs. I would get
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Speaker 8: out of the van and go so I could get
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Speaker 8: ahead of the guys, and then I would make it
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Speaker 8: a challenge to see how long I could go before
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Speaker 8: they caught me up. And I used to be able
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Speaker 8: to make it till about thirteen miles before they caught
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Speaker 8: me up.
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Speaker 7: So I actually was really proud.
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Speaker 8: Of that, and so that kind of led into me thinking,
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Speaker 8: I think I'm going to enjoy this marathon thing.
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Speaker 9: I had just moved across the country and had a
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Speaker 9: couple of small kids at home, and I was kind
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Speaker 9: of feeling, honestly a little bit depressed and not sure
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Speaker 9: what the next stage of my life was going to
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Speaker 9: look like. And I actually needed more time to think.
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Speaker 9: So with the little kids, they asked you a million questions,
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Speaker 9: and I had done a couple of five k's at
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Speaker 9: the time and really kind of enjoyed the challenge. I
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Speaker 9: really didn't consider myself to be an athlete at the time.
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Speaker 9: I didn't really do any sports growing up, but running
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Speaker 9: was something that was personally challenging and I could get
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Speaker 9: out there and just let my thoughts go, solve problems
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Speaker 9: in my head whatever. And somehow the idea of doing
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Speaker 9: a marathon just kind of stuck in my head. And
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Speaker 9: at the time, I didn't have any friends who were runners.
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Speaker 9: I didn't know anyone who'd ever done a marathon, and
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Speaker 9: maybe that's why I was so appealing. It was kind
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Speaker 9: of like my thing. And so I signed up for
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Speaker 9: the race and bought a pair of running shoes and
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Speaker 9: then proceeded to do pretty much everything wrong, you know,
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Speaker 9: from fueling to long runs to training. It was there
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Speaker 9: was a lot of messiness in it, but I got
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Speaker 9: through it and crossed that first finish line and it
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Speaker 9: was painful, but it was amazing, and I knew that,
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Speaker 9: you know, I would do another one.
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Speaker 10: So sixty one marathons.
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Speaker 6: Later, I'm still at it. Something stuck. Apparently, it's life changing.
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Speaker 1: How many first time marathoners this weekend we have in here.
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Speaker 1: I never wanted to be you ever, not at sixty one,
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Speaker 1: but an eight time marathoner as of Chicago.
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Speaker 2: I grew up weight cycling.
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Speaker 4: My entire life.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned the dramatic weight loss in college, and for me,
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Speaker 1: running was always something that I dreaded. My brother was
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Speaker 1: the track athlete of the family. My sophomore year of
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Speaker 1: high school, I didn't make the volleyball team because I
12:37
Speaker 1: couldn't run a mile in under ten minutes. So for me,
12:41
Speaker 1: running just was not my personal calling. But when I
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Speaker 1: started to go on this weight loss journey, what I
12:47
Speaker 1: learned was that running was the most attainable thing for
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Speaker 1: me to do that didn't require me spending money. You know,
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Speaker 1: the barrier to entry and running is quite low. So
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Speaker 1: I started every day one summer with what I thought
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Speaker 1: was a mile. It was a half mile I as
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Speaker 1: you did. At the end of the summer. It took
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Speaker 1: me fourteen minutes to run it every single day, But
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Speaker 1: it didn't even matter when I realized that, because what
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Speaker 1: I had realized was that despite the distance that summer,
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Speaker 1: I learned to love running, which was something a girl
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Speaker 1: from trouble Conneticut, never thought that she would do. So
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Speaker 1: learn to love running. Sign up for that first five k,
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Speaker 1: the five k becomes a ten k. And this is
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Speaker 1: a familiar story I'm sure for many of you. Before
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Speaker 1: I knew it, the Hardford Half Marathon, and then a
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Speaker 1: few years after that, after a slew of those Hartford Marathon,
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Speaker 1: and so now eight in and I just you know,
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Speaker 1: I affectionately call the first time I ran the New
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Speaker 1: York City Marathon that day as the best day of
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Speaker 1: my life. So anyone that's going out there on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: just know that you are already so far in this journey.
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Speaker 2: You have done so much for yourself.
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Speaker 1: And you will always look back on that day, no
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Speaker 1: matter what happens, as one.
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Speaker 2: Of the best days of your life.
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Speaker 1: So for me, marathoning has to say has been life changing.
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Speaker 2: Would be an understatement, but it has empowered me.
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Speaker 1: To be a better version of myself everywhere I go,
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Speaker 1: and I'm just so thankful for it.
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Speaker 7: That's awesome.
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Speaker 5: I was on the track, so I ran you saying
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Speaker 5: you went from five k to ten k to half
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Speaker 5: marathons marathon like I went from running twelve and a
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Speaker 5: half laps on the track to what the heck, let's
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Speaker 5: just do twenty six point two miles four months to
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Speaker 5: the day, basically after having my second baby. And for me,
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Speaker 5: one of the big reasons why I wanted to do
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Speaker 5: the marathon was because I had nothing to compare it to.
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Speaker 4: And I don't know about some of you.
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Speaker 5: If you're just kind of, you know, going for it
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Speaker 5: and have never run something in between five k.
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Speaker 4: And a marathon, I think that's okay too.
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Speaker 6: It's a long ways further.
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Speaker 5: Three point one to twenty six point two is it's
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Speaker 5: a long jump, a big jump. But you know, for me,
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Speaker 5: it was when I was competing and running so hard
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Speaker 5: for so long, I needed something that I did not
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Speaker 5: have to, you know, look back on the same workout
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Speaker 5: or what I had done, and I think I had
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Speaker 5: gotten scared of the.
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Speaker 4: Sport after I had my children.
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Speaker 5: I wanted to come back after Ruby, who's getting some water.
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Speaker 5: I wanted to come back after her, But my heart
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Speaker 5: wasn't in it anymore. It wasn't in it enough to
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Speaker 5: train twice a day and to travel and to compete
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Speaker 5: while she was at home with my husband, and I
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Speaker 5: wanted to be home with my kids or my kiddo
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Speaker 5: and then I had my second baby, and I kind of.
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Speaker 2: Was like, okay, maybe going.
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Speaker 4: Away with you.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I love Everett, but I needed some more time, right,
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Speaker 5: I needed some time, like Ganjie said, and I was
15:34
Speaker 5: doing TV work, but I thought, you know what, I'm
15:37
Speaker 5: not going to want to travel so much, so why
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Speaker 5: not stay out on a Saturday morning for two hours
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Speaker 5: and just go for a two hour run with my friends?
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Speaker 5: And it was wonderful. It was really fun to tackle something.
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Speaker 5: It went horribly wrong, and we can get into that later,
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Speaker 5: but it was something that it took me six years
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Speaker 5: to come back and I finally ran my second one
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Speaker 5: this year, so let me just say it took me
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Speaker 5: a while to go back to it, but it was.
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Speaker 4: What you ran. Well, that was my next question.
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Speaker 5: But I did do my second marathon this year, and
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Speaker 5: my second question was what inspired you to do your
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Speaker 5: last marathon? And for me, I wanted the house record,
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Speaker 5: to be honest, Charlie, my husband and two boys are
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Speaker 5: at the hotel right now, taking a little bit of
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Speaker 5: a rest because they've been running around all day, the
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Speaker 5: three of them and Charlie, but I wanted his record.
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Speaker 5: I missed it by a minute and that first time around,
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Speaker 5: and I got it by eleven minutes this time around,
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Speaker 5: so it was a fun day. It was the Twin
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Speaker 5: Cities Marathon. Anyone ever run in Twin Cities before, It's beautiful.
16:43
Speaker 5: I ran with a few people today that were from
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Speaker 5: New York and they're like, hands down most beautiful course,
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Speaker 5: just beautiful.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I did it and it went well.
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Speaker 5: Didn't train much different, but I did have a four
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Speaker 5: month old, so there you go.
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Speaker 4: That was the time I ran two fifty one fifty six. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's good. It's fad.
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Speaker 2: Tina's the group hype man.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess I am.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 5: She's like, tell your stats, but okay, so let's talk
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Speaker 5: about you guys.
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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the inspiration behind your last miraca.
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Speaker 8: Well, my last one was definitely a little bit different
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Speaker 8: to all my previous ones. The previous ones were definitely
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Speaker 8: about the results, about you know, when you get to
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Speaker 8: the next level. It was that typical run of thing
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Speaker 8: we do. When I get to X level, I'll be happy,
17:28
Speaker 8: but then you get there and you're like, well, you know,
17:31
Speaker 8: I want to get to the next sleven. So I
17:32
Speaker 8: kept doing that, kept chasing Out've actually only run I
17:35
Speaker 8: think six marathons and not that many. But I don't
17:40
Speaker 8: know how many of you know this, but I think
17:42
Speaker 8: quite a.
17:42
Speaker 7: Few in the room do that.
17:44
Speaker 8: In twenty sixteen I ran for Great Britain in a
17:47
Speaker 8: World Championships. I ran my pr later that year two
17:50
Speaker 8: thirty six in the marathon. So those were all about times,
17:53
Speaker 8: all about accomplishing things.
17:55
Speaker 7: And then in.
17:57
Speaker 8: Early twenty seventeen, I stopped running, wasn't sure I would
18:01
Speaker 8: ever run again, decided all of a sudden I wanted
18:04
Speaker 8: to start a family, didn't run a step for three months,
18:08
Speaker 8: had a child less than a year later.
18:10
Speaker 5: Was on my podcast and you know, had told her
18:13
Speaker 5: whole story about you know, not having her period for
18:16
Speaker 5: nine years, and like the week later found out she
18:19
Speaker 5: was pregnant.
18:21
Speaker 7: Yeah, it happened very quick.
18:22
Speaker 8: It was ten weeks from stopping running to being pregnant
18:25
Speaker 8: after yet not having a period for nine years. Had
18:29
Speaker 8: my daughter, and I thought, well, I had two goals.
18:33
Speaker 8: I wanted to kind of get back to the joy
18:36
Speaker 8: of running, because towards the end of my running career
18:38
Speaker 8: it was all about the finish line. I remember being
18:41
Speaker 8: in January of twenty seventeen and I had my next
18:46
Speaker 8: race was going to be the Gold Coast in Australia,
18:49
Speaker 8: and I was like, I can't wait to cross the
18:51
Speaker 8: finish line in.
18:52
Speaker 7: July like that.
18:53
Speaker 8: And you know when you're thinking that in January, that's
18:55
Speaker 8: pretty sad that, like all you're thinking about is the
18:58
Speaker 8: finish line, not even the race, the build up to
19:00
Speaker 8: the race, of the finish line. So I wanted to
19:03
Speaker 8: find joy. I decided to do the Disney Half Marathon
19:07
Speaker 8: the following January about one year later, as my kind
19:12
Speaker 8: of attempt to get my joy back in running. And
19:15
Speaker 8: I did and so I thought, you know what, I
19:17
Speaker 8: want to see if I can do it with the marathon,
19:19
Speaker 8: and was fortunate enough to be allowed into Boston. And
19:23
Speaker 8: it was hard, Like I forgot how I thought. I
19:27
Speaker 8: think I thought because I'd run two thirty six, it
19:29
Speaker 8: would anything slower would just feel easy. Definitely did not.
19:33
Speaker 8: I ran two fifty eight, which is still fast.
19:36
Speaker 7: I get that.
19:37
Speaker 8: But I was working about as hard as I had
19:40
Speaker 8: in any marathon to run that time. So it was
19:42
Speaker 8: coming at a completely different way. But for me, it
19:45
Speaker 8: was just about doing it for myself rather than about
19:48
Speaker 8: the finish line.
19:51
Speaker 9: But like some of these ladies have mentioned your goals
19:54
Speaker 9: kind of turned the snowball as you continue on your
19:57
Speaker 9: running journey. And so my last marathon was the Norwich
20:01
Speaker 9: Marathon in Vermont. I'm actually working to run a marathon
20:04
Speaker 9: in all fifty states, and I'm getting pretty close. That
20:07
Speaker 9: was state number forty eight and marathon number sixty one,
20:10
Speaker 9: so we're getting close to.
20:12
Speaker 7: The finish line.
20:13
Speaker 9: But it really has been about the joy of the journey.
20:16
Speaker 9: Maybe in the beginning it kind of was a wild hair.
20:19
Speaker 6: Like, oh can I do this thing?
20:21
Speaker 2: You know?
20:21
Speaker 6: How am I going to juggle this with three.
20:23
Speaker 9: Young kids and a busy life and just being able
20:27
Speaker 9: to be inspired by other people who are able to
20:30
Speaker 9: manage the training and the traveling. And I think it's
20:34
Speaker 9: just an amazing way to see different states that I
20:37
Speaker 9: probably wouldn't go to otherwise and being able to meet
20:41
Speaker 9: people from those states. So yeah, this last marathon was
20:44
Speaker 9: extremely hilly.
20:45
Speaker 6: I think it had three thousand feet of elevation gain.
20:48
Speaker 9: It was freezing cold, and it rained the entire time,
20:52
Speaker 9: so my hands got like little ice blocks. You know,
20:55
Speaker 9: you're trying to fumble with your fuel and get it
20:57
Speaker 9: in your mouth, but you know, there's still something.
21:01
Speaker 6: Joyous about it.
21:02
Speaker 9: There was the beautiful Connecticut foliage, I.
21:04
Speaker 6: Mean for nott Folige. I was in Connecticut two weeks
21:07
Speaker 6: before that for a marathon.
21:09
Speaker 10: So I'm getting all my states mixed up.
21:11
Speaker 9: But you know, there's so much beauty around us, and
21:13
Speaker 9: I think that's one thing about running is.
21:16
Speaker 10: That you can just look around you and think, it's.
21:18
Speaker 6: So great to be alive.
21:19
Speaker 9: It's great to have this strong, healthy body that I
21:23
Speaker 9: can do things that other people can't do. And I
21:26
Speaker 9: really try to remind myself that no matter what marathon
21:29
Speaker 9: I'm running or where I'm at, is that it's a
21:31
Speaker 9: privilege to be able to do this running thing. You know,
21:35
Speaker 9: it's not something that's guaranteed, and so really just having
21:38
Speaker 9: that gratitude, I think is what keeps me going and
21:41
Speaker 9: keeps me excited about it.
21:44
Speaker 1: I can relate to the fumbling with the fuel feeling.
21:48
Speaker 1: My last marathon was Chicago, but before that, kind of
21:54
Speaker 1: Boston in twenty eighteen, which was the greatest year of
21:57
Speaker 1: all time if you know anything about.
21:59
Speaker 4: This of Boston as of late.
22:02
Speaker 2: I just remember being so cold and walking up.
22:05
Speaker 1: To some running up to someone on the side at
22:08
Speaker 1: one point to ask them if they can put my
22:10
Speaker 1: AirPod back in the case because I couldn't do it
22:12
Speaker 1: myself and it was dead. And then the second thing
22:14
Speaker 1: I asked was I ran up to someone and I said,
22:16
Speaker 1: there are gummies in my pocket, can you get me them?
22:18
Speaker 1: Like I was incapable of grasping for them. So that
22:22
Speaker 1: was That was a fun experience. As I mentioned, my
22:25
Speaker 1: last marathon was Chicago. It was a dream as dreamy
22:29
Speaker 1: marathons go. I had heard so much about how flat
22:34
Speaker 1: the course was, and I decided to run it just
22:39
Speaker 1: because it's nice to get out of New York every
22:41
Speaker 1: once in a while.
22:42
Speaker 2: I'd done New York four times.
22:44
Speaker 1: Like I said, I love it, but I was just
22:45
Speaker 1: looking for a different challenge, and so I headed to Chicago.
22:49
Speaker 1: At first going into my training cycle with not a
22:52
Speaker 1: lot of expectations or not really having any big goals.
22:55
Speaker 1: But as I did more and more speedwork, I realized
22:58
Speaker 1: that I was in a much better place than I'd
23:01
Speaker 1: ever been before, maybe aside from Boston.
23:04
Speaker 2: I was really good up for Boston.
23:05
Speaker 1: But again, so yeah, I went out to Chicago and
23:10
Speaker 1: I had an amazing day out there.
23:12
Speaker 4: I ran a twenty one minute and eight second PR.
23:16
Speaker 1: And qualified for Boston, which is something I literally it's
23:19
Speaker 1: a sentence I never thought in my life that I
23:21
Speaker 1: would actually say out loud.
23:22
Speaker 2: So when I ran the.
23:24
Speaker 1: Boston previously, I did it with a charity or with
23:26
Speaker 1: a corporate sponsor. So it feels really bizarre and empowering
23:30
Speaker 1: to say that I earned my spot there and.
23:33
Speaker 4: Everyone says, well, you're going to go back, and I
23:35
Speaker 4: think I.
23:36
Speaker 1: Still have a little bit of PTSD, but I'm thinking
23:39
Speaker 1: about it and knowing me, I'll probably.
23:41
Speaker 2: Be back there in twenty twenty one.
23:43
Speaker 8: Nice, all right, So this is all we've been talking about,
23:47
Speaker 8: all the good moments, the nice things that happened. But
23:50
Speaker 8: we all know, all those of you who've done marathons
23:53
Speaker 8: know marathons are not always wonderful the entire way around.
23:57
Speaker 8: In fact, if you get one of those, that's kind
24:00
Speaker 8: of a unicorn and it never happened, that happens maybe
24:02
Speaker 8: once in a lifetime.
24:04
Speaker 7: But there were.
24:04
Speaker 8: Also many really tough moments, moments that you either mentally
24:08
Speaker 8: give up, you either physically you know, you have to
24:11
Speaker 8: walk off the course, or something breaks down. So I
24:14
Speaker 8: would love to hear you know something from each of you.
24:17
Speaker 8: But maybe Emily, we can start with you this time.
24:20
Speaker 8: You know, a struggle that you went through in one
24:22
Speaker 8: of your racism and how you go through it.
24:24
Speaker 1: It's funny because I remember in Boston in twenty eighteen,
24:29
Speaker 1: the mood in Boston was really glumb and I'll just
24:33
Speaker 1: put this out there so we're on the same page. Basically,
24:35
Speaker 1: race day was real feel of thirty two. It was
24:39
Speaker 1: hailing when I started, The wind gusts were up till
24:41
Speaker 1: like fifty miles an hour. A lot of the elites
24:44
Speaker 1: dropped out of hypothermia.
24:45
Speaker 2: It was a rough day. It was a really rough day.
24:47
Speaker 1: And the week of the marathon, like I said, the
24:50
Speaker 1: vibe in Boston, it was just like everyone was bumped,
24:53
Speaker 1: and I think, for my betterment, I went into race
24:57
Speaker 1: day and I wasn't mad, Like the reality was when
25:01
Speaker 1: I showed up there that day that I could be
25:04
Speaker 1: mad and waste energy on that or I could show
25:06
Speaker 1: up and accept the circumstances and do the best I could.
25:10
Speaker 4: With what I had.
25:11
Speaker 1: And so I went into race day knowing that I
25:14
Speaker 1: was prepared to run this marathon regardless of what it
25:17
Speaker 1: was going to be like out there.
25:18
Speaker 2: Despite being very prepared.
25:21
Speaker 1: And having a trash bag on me, until like mile twelve.
25:24
Speaker 1: I think like everyone out there just looked like the
25:27
Speaker 1: walking dead. I got to the hills, and I say
25:32
Speaker 1: hills because everyone just talks about Heartbreak Hill, but if
25:35
Speaker 1: you know anything about Boston, there's four of them, so
25:37
Speaker 1: don't let anyone fool you. And I just remember running
25:42
Speaker 1: up the Boston Final Hill just so beside myself, and
25:47
Speaker 1: I wanted to cry so bad, but I was just
25:50
Speaker 1: incapable of like completely letting go to that amount. But
25:54
Speaker 1: never in a marathon have I felt like my legs
25:57
Speaker 1: were literally just led and I was drenched, and I
26:01
Speaker 1: had thankfully just changed sneakers at one point because I
26:04
Speaker 1: had a friend that had extra sneakers for me on
26:06
Speaker 1: the side, and and I'm just drenched and everything hurts,
26:10
Speaker 1: and in my head, not finishing was never an option.
26:14
Speaker 2: It's never, never, never an option. But I just remember so.
26:19
Speaker 1: Many of the people that I had been pacing with
26:20
Speaker 1: up to this point slowly won by one. They were
26:24
Speaker 1: all going into a mid tent. They were all ducking out,
26:26
Speaker 1: and in my head, I was like, well, if all of.
26:28
Speaker 2: These people are ducking out, like am I doing something wrong?
26:31
Speaker 1: But not finishing was never an option, So that was
26:34
Speaker 1: quite the mental battle to get through.
26:37
Speaker 4: And again, like I said.
26:38
Speaker 1: I mean I went into it with a really great
26:39
Speaker 1: attitude and I walked out of that race with a
26:42
Speaker 1: four oh one, which for me having a pr a
26:45
Speaker 1: three twenty eight and aside from that three twenty eight,
26:48
Speaker 1: a three forty nine thirteen. So I was so proud
26:51
Speaker 1: of that four oh one, and I hung that poster
26:54
Speaker 1: very proudly, that Tracksmen poster, which if all of you
26:57
Speaker 1: are running, my biggest suggestion for you is to head
27:00
Speaker 1: down to the Tracks with pop up on Monday and
27:02
Speaker 1: grab a poster with your customized marathon time on it.
27:04
Speaker 4: They don't pay me to say these things. I just
27:06
Speaker 4: think they're the best thing in my apartment.
27:08
Speaker 1: But I proudly hung that poster right over my bed
27:12
Speaker 1: like the second I could, because I worked my butt off.
27:15
Speaker 4: For that four o one.
27:16
Speaker 2: I'm so happy with it.
27:19
Speaker 9: Well, since she talked about cold marathons, I'm gonna talk
27:22
Speaker 9: about hot marathons because the heat.
27:24
Speaker 5: You know, you run sixty one of them, so you've
27:27
Speaker 5: been through everything.
27:29
Speaker 9: I've been through a few of each, but the heat
27:31
Speaker 9: is my personal nemesis. It's like I am a pretty
27:34
Speaker 9: heavy sweater anyway, and a salty sweater, and I can
27:38
Speaker 9: just think about heat and start to sweat pretty much,
27:40
Speaker 9: and my skin loves to chafe, and so you get
27:43
Speaker 9: the salt and the sweat.
27:44
Speaker 10: And the heat going, and my skin's like I'm.
27:46
Speaker 6: Gonna chafe everywhere no matter what you put on me.
27:49
Speaker 9: So I remember one marathon in particular was the Lincoln
27:53
Speaker 9: Marathon and Lincoln, Nebraska, and it was one of those.
27:56
Speaker 6: Spring races where you've kind of trained.
27:58
Speaker 9: Through the winter, so you have you know, most of
28:00
Speaker 9: your long runs are in the cold, and then you get.
28:03
Speaker 6: A super hot race day and you're like, what do
28:05
Speaker 6: I do with this?
28:05
Speaker 9: I've I'm not he acclimated, and it was kind of
28:09
Speaker 9: like people all around were just kind of like death marching,
28:12
Speaker 9: and there's maybe people being haul away in ambulances, so
28:15
Speaker 9: you're thinking this is probably not even that safe, and
28:19
Speaker 9: aide stations, fortunately.
28:21
Speaker 2: They had ice.
28:21
Speaker 6: I'm sticking ice in my sports brad.
28:23
Speaker 10: And like rubbing it.
28:24
Speaker 9: On my head and you know, anything you can think
28:26
Speaker 9: of to keep cool. And I'm kind of like Emily
28:29
Speaker 9: and like too stubborn ever to quit, and I you know,
28:32
Speaker 9: I definitely recommend to people to quit if it becomes
28:37
Speaker 9: unsafe situation. So I'm a registered nurse, and I would say,
28:40
Speaker 9: you know, live to run another day for sure. But
28:43
Speaker 9: you know, for myself, I was like, Okay, I'm uncomfortable,
28:46
Speaker 9: I'm miserable, but I'm not in any trouble.
28:48
Speaker 10: Here, and so I just kind of, you know, march
28:51
Speaker 10: that one in.
28:52
Speaker 9: And there has been times during several marathons actually that
28:55
Speaker 9: I've promised myself just cross the finish line and you
28:58
Speaker 9: never have to do this again. And then of course
29:01
Speaker 9: she crossed the finish line. You're like, well, that wasn't
29:03
Speaker 9: so bad, was it.
29:06
Speaker 6: Maybe you can relay.
29:07
Speaker 10: I don't know.
29:08
Speaker 5: Well, I had a fueling issue and I was lucky
29:12
Speaker 5: enough in what was that twenty thirteen to kind of
29:17
Speaker 5: connect with Barn and say, hey, Varn, I need some product,
29:19
Speaker 5: or he maybe said Carrie, you need product. But I
29:23
Speaker 5: was feeding a baby right before this marathon, and I
29:28
Speaker 5: was feeding the baby during the marathon whatever if you
29:31
Speaker 5: want to say that. My body was going through all
29:33
Speaker 5: kinds of gyrations. And I did media work the morning
29:36
Speaker 5: of the marathon, so it's like I had to be
29:38
Speaker 5: at the start line at five am or something. And
29:41
Speaker 5: for the guys in the room. Sorry, but most of
29:42
Speaker 5: you probably have kids, So here we go. I pumped
29:46
Speaker 5: at about seven am and I took I had a
29:51
Speaker 5: peanut butter and jelly full on sandwich at like five
29:53
Speaker 5: point thirty or something like that. But by the time
29:56
Speaker 5: I got to twenty miles, I was waving to the crowd.
29:59
Speaker 4: I was taken it all in, and I forgot to have.
30:01
Speaker 5: Most of my genucamp, so I was kind of like,
30:06
Speaker 5: you know, just taking it all in, like I said,
30:08
Speaker 5: and not really paying attention to my feeling. Well, I
30:11
Speaker 5: got to twenty and I think it's a mile nineteen.
30:13
Speaker 5: In Minnesota, they have this big blow up wall and
30:16
Speaker 5: it's terrible. It's not nice to say that, but now
30:19
Speaker 5: that I've run it a couple of times, I think
30:21
Speaker 5: it's more so you get fired up to finish, you know.
30:23
Speaker 5: But at that time I was pissed. I was like,
30:26
Speaker 5: why do they have this blow of wall? Like that's terrible.
30:29
Speaker 5: And I got to the hills because that's where our
30:32
Speaker 5: hills start, and everything started to go wrong. I went
30:35
Speaker 5: from running six twenty six thirty pace to seven twenty
30:39
Speaker 5: to an eight fifteen to a nine forty five to
30:42
Speaker 5: you know, and I just kept going and I was walking,
30:44
Speaker 5: which my husband informed me that most people walk, but
30:47
Speaker 5: as an Olympic athlete, I thought, wall, I can't walk right.
30:52
Speaker 5: So I went through everything. I did it all wrong
30:54
Speaker 5: that day and I got to the finish line, I
30:57
Speaker 5: realized I hadn't taken all my genucamp. I hadn't taken
31:01
Speaker 5: the goose or whatever they were at the time.
31:03
Speaker 7: I had some some like chomps.
31:04
Speaker 4: I don't even know what I was.
31:05
Speaker 5: Taking, and I took had hadn't done anything. So for
31:10
Speaker 5: those of you who are running, I tell you that
31:13
Speaker 5: story because you need to stick with the feeling.
31:15
Speaker 4: That you've done.
31:16
Speaker 5: And if you haven't fueled, well, make sure you do
31:19
Speaker 5: something tomorrow because you know, the longer it goes, the more.
31:23
Speaker 4: You really rely on what you did early on.
31:25
Speaker 5: And for me, this.
31:26
Speaker 4: Product is just GONN lifesaver because.
31:29
Speaker 5: Not only was I feeding that baby and I could
31:31
Speaker 5: continue to feed the baby after.
31:33
Speaker 4: But it fueled me throughout.
31:35
Speaker 5: Now the last six years, I've really learned to to
31:38
Speaker 5: run properly, and I think that's why I had an
31:39
Speaker 5: eleventh minute pr to be honest, not because like I said,
31:42
Speaker 5: the training was so different, but because of the feeling, well,
31:46
Speaker 5: that's always good to hear.
31:47
Speaker 4: I know, right there we go, but it was it's
31:50
Speaker 4: the truth.
31:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh I know it. I'm reely.
31:54
Speaker 8: I just want to share mine quickly as well. So
31:58
Speaker 8: in my first marathon and Philadelphia Marathon twenty thirteen, I
32:02
Speaker 8: think my husband, who was also my coach, had said
32:07
Speaker 8: to me, right, you need to This isn't like any
32:10
Speaker 8: other race.
32:10
Speaker 7: You can't just go out and hold on.
32:12
Speaker 8: It doesn't work like that. I need you to go
32:14
Speaker 8: through thirteen controlled.
32:16
Speaker 7: So I did.
32:17
Speaker 8: I stuck to what I was supposed to be doing,
32:19
Speaker 8: was having a conversation with someone.
32:21
Speaker 7: But I got to thirteen and.
32:22
Speaker 8: I was like, right, go time, So I took off,
32:26
Speaker 8: picked up the pace, stopped fueling my last drink at
32:30
Speaker 8: mile fifteen and miles sixteen had the arrogance to think, I've.
32:34
Speaker 7: Only got ten miles left.
32:35
Speaker 5: That's not that bad.
32:37
Speaker 7: Mile nineteen.
32:40
Speaker 8: I felt like someone squeezed all the air out of
32:43
Speaker 8: my lungs and I.
32:45
Speaker 7: Suddenly couldn't see. I couldn't think.
32:48
Speaker 8: I had one good mile, which of course happened to
32:52
Speaker 8: be the mile I ran past my husband and he.
32:55
Speaker 7: Was like, this, what's coming on?
32:58
Speaker 8: Because I was running fine at that point, but then
33:00
Speaker 8: it came back to bite me. I ended up run
33:03
Speaker 8: walking the final few miles, couldn't see where I was going,
33:06
Speaker 8: I barely knew what my name was, but all I
33:09
Speaker 8: could think about was I'm and again Carrie, and I
33:13
Speaker 8: coming from I think things have changed a little bit,
33:15
Speaker 8: but coming from an elite world, I was like, I.
33:17
Speaker 5: Can't believe I'm walking right now.
33:18
Speaker 8: But yeah, and so there was me thinking that I
33:23
Speaker 8: was gonna smash my time and yeah, I ended up
33:26
Speaker 8: running around nine minutes for my final few miles, and yeah,
33:31
Speaker 8: it was miserable but definitely taught me some lessons about
33:34
Speaker 8: multiple things.
33:35
Speaker 4: For the American Did you think you were seeing Jesus too?
33:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think I totally thought I was working
33:41
Speaker 5: on the clouds of heaven, like I had all this
33:44
Speaker 5: white going on around, like the blood sugar.
33:46
Speaker 4: Was totally gon like not and it was just like
33:49
Speaker 4: whites everywhere. It was that.
33:52
Speaker 8: No, it's not nonexperience I would recommend to anyone. Okay,
33:56
Speaker 8: So the next thing I want to know from you,
33:58
Speaker 8: ladies is I think most runners at some point end
34:01
Speaker 8: up tying their self worth to their running. I mentioned
34:06
Speaker 8: earlier about me kind of doing that for the finish line.
34:09
Speaker 8: And we've all kind of had an experience where you
34:14
Speaker 8: thought something was going to be this amazing experience. You
34:16
Speaker 8: were like you, you know, were envisioning it and everything
34:19
Speaker 8: was great, and you just see it in your mind
34:21
Speaker 8: as going perfectly, and then something goes wrong and it
34:25
Speaker 8: all comes crashing down. So I would love to hear
34:28
Speaker 8: I obviously don't want to hear I don't love hearing
34:31
Speaker 8: the fact that you struggled, but I would love to
34:33
Speaker 8: hear something that you kind of a moment that happened
34:37
Speaker 8: to you and how you like forgave yourself for kind
34:40
Speaker 8: of making that error or letting yourself kind of get
34:43
Speaker 8: carried away to where your self worth was tied to
34:46
Speaker 8: that result or that finish.
34:48
Speaker 6: So and you maybe you can start well.
34:50
Speaker 9: I can't really think of a specific race, but I
34:53
Speaker 9: did go through a pretty big health struggle about three
34:57
Speaker 9: years ago.
34:57
Speaker 10: My hormones were.
34:58
Speaker 9: Totally out about I ended up gaining like forty pounds
35:02
Speaker 9: in one year, which you know, as Emily knows, is
35:05
Speaker 9: not a good book.
35:05
Speaker 6: When you're five to four.
35:07
Speaker 9: And you know your your identity as a running coach,
35:10
Speaker 9: as a runner is you know, pretty much tied into
35:13
Speaker 9: your body in a lot of ways. And I really
35:15
Speaker 9: felt like, number one, I was letting myself down because
35:18
Speaker 9: somehow I had managed to get.
35:20
Speaker 6: Myself into this physical condition.
35:23
Speaker 9: And number two, you know, you have a lot of like,
35:25
Speaker 9: what are people going to think of me? You know,
35:27
Speaker 9: here's this running coach telling us to do things, and
35:30
Speaker 9: you know she looks like that and she can't even
35:32
Speaker 9: you know, get her act together when it comes to
35:35
Speaker 9: her fitness. And so it was a real big humbling
35:37
Speaker 9: experience for me. And I really had to realize that
35:40
Speaker 9: I am enough no matter what I look like. And
35:44
Speaker 9: I cannot put my all my identity in my physical appearance.
35:47
Speaker 9: I can't put it in my running times because obviously
35:51
Speaker 9: they suffered during that period of time. And I really
35:54
Speaker 9: just had to step back and think.
35:57
Speaker 10: About some of my core values. And a couple of
35:59
Speaker 10: my core.
36:00
Speaker 6: Values are gratitude and courage.
36:02
Speaker 9: And I really had to think, how can I apply
36:05
Speaker 9: this in my daily life? And each person in here
36:08
Speaker 9: is going to have different ways that they can apply
36:10
Speaker 9: gratitude and courage. Everyone has their own unique challenges and
36:14
Speaker 9: their own unique struggles, and so I think if you
36:17
Speaker 9: think about your values and really kind of dig into
36:20
Speaker 9: that it's going to help you through those situations where
36:23
Speaker 9: you kind of feel stuck and you don't really.
36:26
Speaker 6: You don't really see a good way forward.
36:28
Speaker 9: And fortunately I was able to start working with a
36:32
Speaker 9: nutritionist and we will talk about this a little bit
36:34
Speaker 9: later when we talk about nutrition and fueling, but thankfully
36:38
Speaker 9: I did come through that really challenging point in my life.
36:41
Speaker 9: But it's really helped me to have more self knowledge
36:45
Speaker 9: and realize that, you know, you cannot just have all
36:49
Speaker 9: your focus beyond physical appearance or you're running times, because
36:54
Speaker 9: you know, the body gets older and at some point
36:56
Speaker 9: you don't pr anymore, and just to be really great
37:00
Speaker 9: for the physical shape that you do have, whatever it
37:03
Speaker 9: is right now, just be grateful that your legs can
37:06
Speaker 9: carry you forward.
37:07
Speaker 10: And so I guess that's one thing that I've kind
37:09
Speaker 10: of learned through.
37:09
Speaker 4: Going through that.
37:11
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, when I was younger, I had this
37:13
Speaker 1: interesting relationship with running, but also specifically the mile, having
37:18
Speaker 1: not made the JV team my sophomore year in high
37:21
Speaker 1: school because I couldn't do it in under ten minutes.
37:23
Speaker 1: When I was growing up and overweight, my brother, the
37:26
Speaker 1: track athlete, would always joke and he'd say when I
37:29
Speaker 1: would bother him, he'd say, go run a mile, knowing
37:31
Speaker 1: that I couldn't do it well. So, as many of
37:34
Speaker 1: you know are all around the United States and obviously
37:38
Speaker 1: internationally as well.
37:39
Speaker 4: Now, mile races are are the move.
37:41
Speaker 1: They're the thing that people love to do, and I
37:44
Speaker 1: myself felt very empowered to run one as well. So
37:49
Speaker 1: earlier this summer I signed up for the Brooklyn Mile,
37:54
Speaker 1: and I was very open and excited about my training
37:57
Speaker 1: for this as someone who was at the time I'm
38:00
Speaker 1: a seven time marathon er, the mile still felt scary
38:04
Speaker 1: because it wasn't just okay, can you go out and
38:06
Speaker 1: run a mile? It was okay, how fast can you
38:09
Speaker 1: go out and run a mile? So from the get go,
38:12
Speaker 1: with the help of an amazing coach in New York
38:14
Speaker 1: City named Steve Finley, we geared up for me to
38:18
Speaker 1: do it as fast as possible and.
38:20
Speaker 4: My impossible, crazy goal.
38:22
Speaker 1: Was six minutes, and so I trained really hard for that.
38:26
Speaker 1: And as I mentioned it, it definitely has paid off
38:28
Speaker 1: in the long term with all of the progress that
38:31
Speaker 1: has helped me achieve with the marathon.
38:33
Speaker 2: I mean by running faster.
38:36
Speaker 1: More frequently, I was seeing speeds and easier speeds.
38:41
Speaker 4: Than ever before, So super thankful for that.
38:43
Speaker 1: But I was very open and honest about that six
38:46
Speaker 1: minute goal and ended up going out to Kent Avenue
38:49
Speaker 1: in Williamsburg and running a six oh seven. And that
38:52
Speaker 1: was really challenging for me to accept after the fact,
38:55
Speaker 1: because I felt embarrassed.
38:57
Speaker 2: I felt like it was something.
38:58
Speaker 4: That I should have.
38:59
Speaker 1: Been able to do and I just didn't pull it.
39:01
Speaker 4: Out that day.
39:02
Speaker 1: And so it took a little, you know, a couple
39:05
Speaker 1: of days to get over myself and a couple of
39:07
Speaker 1: good pep talks with some friends and a couple of
39:10
Speaker 1: good glasses of red Gurollo. But once that happened, I
39:15
Speaker 1: really realized that, you know, every failure, obviously it happens
39:18
Speaker 1: to teach us something, and so it was.
39:21
Speaker 2: It was great.
39:21
Speaker 1: Actually, later in the summer again in New York, there's
39:24
Speaker 1: the Fifth Avenue mile, as many of you know about,
39:26
Speaker 1: and so I went out for the Fifth Avenue mile
39:29
Speaker 1: the day after a twenty mile or long run or
39:33
Speaker 1: a long training run. And I went out there that
39:35
Speaker 1: day and in my head, I was just like, you know, what,
39:37
Speaker 1: whatever happens here, like it's all good, Like this is
39:39
Speaker 1: not the point.
39:40
Speaker 4: The point is not to do a slub six on.
39:42
Speaker 2: Fifth Avenue today, and I didn't.
39:44
Speaker 1: I did a six o nine, But the fact that
39:46
Speaker 1: I went out there, I ran a six o nine.
39:47
Speaker 1: The day after going out and running twenty miles, I
39:49
Speaker 1: was like, well, you'll learn something and you're ready to
39:52
Speaker 1: take on whatever the next challenge is that comes your way.
39:55
Speaker 1: So again, all these things, all these failures, all there's
39:58
Speaker 1: these struggles, they're happening to teach just something.
40:00
Speaker 4: They're happening to help us grow some grit.
40:03
Speaker 1: And I can certainly say that I'm very proud of
40:06
Speaker 1: that six oh seven, and that's six oh nine and.
40:08
Speaker 4: All the other numbers in between. I would have to say,
40:11
Speaker 4: I think the big thing that I've learned from this sport,
40:13
Speaker 4: which is everything. I mean, I've learned everything from the sport.
40:17
Speaker 4: I've grown up in it.
40:19
Speaker 5: It's become my career now after my running career, and
40:22
Speaker 5: you know, obviously I'm trying to teach my kids not
40:25
Speaker 5: necessarily they have to run, that we can learn from it.
40:27
Speaker 5: But I would have to say coming back from injuries
40:29
Speaker 5: was probably the hardest thing and the big thing for
40:31
Speaker 5: me and all of us will experience injuries. Right, maybe
40:35
Speaker 5: not all of us are going to have to run
40:36
Speaker 5: the mile on national television and show.
40:38
Speaker 4: Everyone that you are not as fit as you once were.
40:41
Speaker 5: But I can remember doing that in Arkansas, running the
40:44
Speaker 5: mile and being like ten seconds slower than I was
40:48
Speaker 5: the year before, and knowing everyone that was interested in
40:52
Speaker 5: the sport was going to watch and see me not
40:54
Speaker 5: where I should not, where I was, not where.
40:56
Speaker 4: I should be. And experiencing that in front of everyone.
41:01
Speaker 5: Has been a really good life lesson for me that
41:03
Speaker 5: we can put ourselves out there even if we're not
41:05
Speaker 5: one hundred percent, and we can learn from it and
41:08
Speaker 5: we can fight back from it.
41:09
Speaker 4: And it's been a struggle.
41:11
Speaker 5: You know, when you are an elite athlete and this
41:16
Speaker 5: is what you've lived and you know, grown up doing,
41:19
Speaker 5: it's hard to move on from it. And I'm there
41:22
Speaker 5: in this point now where I do broadcast and I
41:24
Speaker 5: do speaking and everything is still revolved around running but
41:27
Speaker 5: getting slower by the second.
41:30
Speaker 4: And it still is my identity. So towing the line.
41:33
Speaker 5: Is still kind of scary because there's still a little
41:36
Speaker 5: bit of expectation. Even when I ran my two fifty
41:39
Speaker 5: one then people were already like, are you going to
41:41
Speaker 5: try and run the trials, like are you going to
41:43
Speaker 5: do this and that? And I'm like, if you saw
41:45
Speaker 5: my training, there's no way I should try to run
41:47
Speaker 5: the trials. I'm trying to just get out the door.
41:49
Speaker 5: But I think the big thing that we all have
41:52
Speaker 5: to keep in mind is even though we have had failures,
41:54
Speaker 5: we always come back stronger because of it.
41:57
Speaker 4: And I think.
41:59
Speaker 5: We're all really lucky and ahead of the game because
42:01
Speaker 5: we have the run to kind of smooth it all
42:03
Speaker 5: over again.
42:04
Speaker 4: So pretty thankful for it.
42:09
Speaker 9: Oh sure, we've been talking a bit about challenges, and
42:13
Speaker 9: one big challenge for people can be nutrition and fueling
42:17
Speaker 9: in particular. And I'm sure all of us will agree
42:21
Speaker 9: that there's no one size fits all fueling or nutrition strategy.
42:26
Speaker 6: That's going to work for everyone.
42:27
Speaker 9: And what worked for you two years ago, you know,
42:29
Speaker 9: might not work for you in two years.
42:31
Speaker 6: So it's kind of one of those things that's always
42:33
Speaker 6: in flux.
42:34
Speaker 9: I've been really fortunate to be using Generation you Can
42:37
Speaker 9: products since twenty thirteen, and I started using them.
42:41
Speaker 6: Not in the way I recommend it to people. I
42:43
Speaker 6: did not practice with it at all.
42:45
Speaker 9: I had a total disaster with my fueling you know,
42:49
Speaker 9: couldn't take.
42:49
Speaker 10: Gels anymore, was getting really sick, and so I.
42:52
Speaker 9: Just thought, what the heck, it couldn't be any worse
42:54
Speaker 9: than it is. I'm going to use it for this marathon.
42:57
Speaker 9: And it went perfectly. So I feel really grateful that
43:01
Speaker 9: that's been one predictable thing I've been able to count
43:04
Speaker 9: on for so many years and so many marathons.
43:07
Speaker 6: But let's talk a little bit about nutrition.
43:09
Speaker 9: And the first thing to start out with is are
43:13
Speaker 9: there any changes in your daily nutrition patterns when you're
43:16
Speaker 9: in marathon training, Because a lot of people are not
43:19
Speaker 9: in marathon training, you know, twelve months of the year.
43:22
Speaker 10: So Emily, you want to start going on.
43:25
Speaker 1: A pizza Fridays every Friday, like, without fail, I'll go
43:31
Speaker 1: and get two, even though most Fridays I think I
43:33
Speaker 1: should only get one. But I go to the pizza
43:35
Speaker 1: spot I'm a New Yorker, around the.
43:36
Speaker 4: Corner, I grab two slices.
43:38
Speaker 1: I go home. I have it with a nice big
43:40
Speaker 1: glass of red It's the best thing.
43:43
Speaker 4: But in addition to that, I mean, for me, it's
43:48
Speaker 4: always funny.
43:48
Speaker 1: I run with a great group on Thursday mornings, and
43:51
Speaker 1: all of the men in the group are like.
43:52
Speaker 2: I can't eat enough.
43:53
Speaker 1: I'm struggling to eat enough to get all the calories
43:56
Speaker 1: I need. My body is just a fat burning machine.
43:59
Speaker 1: And I've lost twenty pound and I walk into wrong
44:01
Speaker 1: club and I'm like, I've gained twelve pounds. I don't
44:06
Speaker 1: have this problem at all, and I'm just constantly hungry.
44:10
Speaker 1: So I think the difference for me during a marathon
44:13
Speaker 1: training cycle is.
44:14
Speaker 4: I'm actually just trying to fuel.
44:16
Speaker 1: My body with whole, great foods more so than usual.
44:21
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely cognizant of what I'm eating on
44:23
Speaker 1: the regular, but I think for me when it comes
44:25
Speaker 1: to marathon season, it's just really about getting all of
44:29
Speaker 1: the basics. And you know, like, am I starting my
44:32
Speaker 1: day off with my Athletic Greens which I shake up
44:34
Speaker 1: every single day because it has twelve servings of fruits
44:37
Speaker 1: and vegetables that is like my one hundred percent go to?
44:40
Speaker 4: Then?
44:40
Speaker 1: Am I having like whole grains with every meal? Am
44:43
Speaker 1: I getting in more vegetables throughout the day? Is their
44:46
Speaker 1: protein around? Like just really being mindful of what I'm
44:50
Speaker 1: putting into my body because I know, for me, just
44:53
Speaker 1: that extra step, that extra cautious attentiveness really goes the
44:59
Speaker 1: extra distance.
45:02
Speaker 8: Well for me, I guess I've kind of gone I
45:05
Speaker 8: don't want to say the opposite way. But when I
45:08
Speaker 8: first started marathoning, I was kind of eating whatever whatever
45:11
Speaker 8: it could to be enough. And then as I transitioned
45:15
Speaker 8: kind of through the elite world over the years, I
45:18
Speaker 8: became more and more controlling with what I was eating, which, obviously,
45:22
Speaker 8: now I look back, makes sense. As I said, not
45:25
Speaker 8: having a period for nine years not eating enough clearly
45:29
Speaker 8: correlates there. But I started to get more and more controlling,
45:33
Speaker 8: to the point to where my final marathon that I
45:37
Speaker 8: did before I stopped was you know, I would I
45:41
Speaker 8: was controlling everything. When I was in England with my parents,
45:44
Speaker 8: we had to go to the restaurant I chose so
45:47
Speaker 8: that I knew I could get healthy food.
45:49
Speaker 7: I wouldn't. I still was totally addicted to sweets.
45:52
Speaker 8: I had such a sweet tooth, and I know now
45:55
Speaker 8: that was my I still have a sweet tooth, but
45:58
Speaker 8: it was it was like a like.
45:59
Speaker 7: A nicotine addiction kind of sweet tooth.
46:02
Speaker 8: And I know now that was obviously my body like
46:04
Speaker 8: screaming at me to give it more. But I'd become
46:07
Speaker 8: to the point where I was only eating you know,
46:10
Speaker 8: basically a whole thirty diet for those of you who
46:12
Speaker 8: know what that is, but only clean foods. You know,
46:15
Speaker 8: when I would go to a place where they would
46:18
Speaker 8: be serving like sandwiches.
46:20
Speaker 7: Oh no, I'm not eating the bread, how dare you?
46:23
Speaker 8: I was just very everything was one hundred percent clean.
46:26
Speaker 8: And so when I stopped running, I knew, you know,
46:29
Speaker 8: I had to change my relationship with food. I worked
46:31
Speaker 8: with a dietitian and that really, you know, made a
46:36
Speaker 8: difference with my relationship with food. But then this previous
46:39
Speaker 8: marathon in Boston, I kind of went for the opposite.
46:41
Speaker 8: I ate what I wanted when I wanted, if that
46:44
Speaker 8: was fried chicken, I lived in Kentucky, so there was
46:47
Speaker 8: a lot.
46:47
Speaker 7: Of it around.
46:49
Speaker 8: If that was fried chicken, I had fried chicken. I
46:51
Speaker 8: kind of just let myself do what I wanted. I
46:54
Speaker 8: was fueling with Generation you Can, and I ran Boston
46:58
Speaker 8: one hundred percent only on Generation you Can. And as
47:02
Speaker 8: Barrone likes to share, my funny story that I actually
47:04
Speaker 8: ended up wearing capris on a seventy degree day because
47:07
Speaker 8: I've got my shorts. That's how much I believed in
47:10
Speaker 8: you can that. I wasn't daring to go without it,
47:13
Speaker 8: but so I still had that and I trusted that
47:15
Speaker 8: at least so I knew that the marathon, fueling wise,
47:18
Speaker 8: I would be safe. And like Emily, I also use
47:20
Speaker 8: athletic greens, so that kind of these two things were
47:24
Speaker 8: the any things I really did, and anything else was
47:26
Speaker 8: just whatever.
47:27
Speaker 5: Whenever you wore those three cord length tights so you
47:31
Speaker 5: could have your and in my yes, so I was
47:34
Speaker 5: the we laughed, but I was the only sub three
47:37
Speaker 5: hour marathon or in the twenties marathon with a belt.
47:39
Speaker 4: So I could have my uken.
47:43
Speaker 7: We're serious about this, Yeah, we're serious about this.
47:45
Speaker 5: This is good stuff, but fueling for me and real
47:48
Speaker 5: quicker nutrition for me. You know, I love to eat period,
47:55
Speaker 5: Like I know, you're not supposed to say you run
47:57
Speaker 5: to eat, but I run so I can eat more.
48:01
Speaker 5: And I'm not real specific, I'm not real scientific it.
48:04
Speaker 5: I've been lucky that I've been able to run consistently,
48:07
Speaker 5: or if I was injured, I had to you know,
48:09
Speaker 5: hammer cross training hard because I.
48:11
Speaker 4: Was getting paid to run.
48:12
Speaker 5: So since I was twelve years old, I haven't really
48:15
Speaker 5: fluctuated much.
48:17
Speaker 4: You know, I put on forty pounds of babies.
48:20
Speaker 5: But you know, I've been consistent and I think for
48:23
Speaker 5: me and my body, being consistent has been the key.
48:27
Speaker 5: It's not so much about being so specific. But you
48:30
Speaker 5: don't see me going a week without a run very
48:33
Speaker 5: often unless it's planned in. You don't see me taking
48:36
Speaker 5: a week off without going, you know, and doing some
48:39
Speaker 5: cross training if I'm hurt.
48:40
Speaker 4: It's I think having consistency.
48:43
Speaker 5: And if you are going to, you know, make sure
48:46
Speaker 5: you worry about weight or whatever.
48:48
Speaker 4: I think that's what's helped me. I do eat.
48:50
Speaker 5: I'm not one to sit with a bag of chips
48:52
Speaker 5: in front of a TV.
48:54
Speaker 4: I do have a little milkshake every night.
48:55
Speaker 5: I have my my You can't milkshake every every day
48:58
Speaker 5: at three pm with my well I want to say
49:01
Speaker 5: six years old, six year old son.
49:03
Speaker 4: But you know, I think that's been for me. So
49:06
Speaker 4: has it been easy?
49:07
Speaker 2: No?
49:07
Speaker 5: Not always, But I think I just think about what
49:09
Speaker 5: I put into my body and enjoy it because you
49:12
Speaker 5: know what, guys, we only have one life to live
49:14
Speaker 5: and if we can run and be healthy, then enjoy
49:17
Speaker 5: some of the things. And you know what, if it's
49:18
Speaker 5: Friday pizza that sounds lovely. For me, it might be
49:22
Speaker 5: Tuesday and Friday, but I've been able to do that.
49:26
Speaker 4: And I'm a single, thirty something living in New York.
49:29
Speaker 2: It's almost like.
49:30
Speaker 4: Every other day.
49:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, and when then if you do have children, it
49:34
Speaker 5: becomes mom, can we have breakth or you know, breakfast, lunch,
49:36
Speaker 5: and dinner of pizza every single day, So it's hard
49:39
Speaker 5: to say no all the time.
49:41
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna bring us home. Here with one
49:43
Speaker 4: final question.
49:44
Speaker 1: Obviously, for many of us these days, social media plays
49:48
Speaker 1: a huge role in how we interact with other people,
49:52
Speaker 1: how we consume information, and how maybe even sometimes we
49:56
Speaker 1: carry ourselves.
49:58
Speaker 4: My question for you, ladies is is what.
50:00
Speaker 1: Impact does social media, if any, have on your training?
50:07
Speaker 5: You know what?
50:07
Speaker 4: For me, it holds me accountable.
50:08
Speaker 5: You know, I am busy, I have all these like
50:11
Speaker 5: I feel like I have a thousand different jobs.
50:13
Speaker 4: And we we were testing out our mics this morning
50:16
Speaker 4: or this afternoon day. What time is it, I don't know,
50:19
Speaker 4: but what.
50:19
Speaker 5: We were talking and I feel like, you know how
50:21
Speaker 5: we were all talking at the same time.
50:22
Speaker 4: There are four of us talking at the same time.
50:24
Speaker 5: And that's what I feel like is in my head
50:26
Speaker 5: right now. But you know, I just would have to say.
50:29
Speaker 5: Social media for me is accountability. You know when I
50:32
Speaker 5: posted every week, you guys saw it. I would post
50:35
Speaker 5: my long run every week. Some people would come at
50:37
Speaker 5: me and say, why are you posting your time? Like
50:39
Speaker 5: are you trying to you know, say you can still
50:41
Speaker 5: run fast or whatever, And I would come right back
50:43
Speaker 5: at them and say, when I post my seventeen mile
50:46
Speaker 5: run last week, and I know I have an eighteen
50:48
Speaker 5: miler this week, If I don't post that, I can maybe,
50:51
Speaker 5: you know, just sneak away with not getting it in.
50:53
Speaker 5: So for me, it's totally accountability. I don't have a
50:56
Speaker 5: coach in my ear anymore. I don't have teammates holding
50:58
Speaker 5: me accountable to get to actors, So for me, social
51:01
Speaker 5: media has been a good way that way, I think for.
51:04
Speaker 7: Me it's like permission.
51:07
Speaker 8: I think a lot of the time within training, we're
51:11
Speaker 8: very much in our own heads, feeling like with the
51:13
Speaker 8: only one struggling with the anyone's having a bad day.
51:16
Speaker 7: And so for social media.
51:19
Speaker 8: Those of you who know me, I running for real,
51:21
Speaker 8: I'm very real, share what I'm thinking, and so being
51:26
Speaker 8: able to say these things and getting other people saying yes,
51:30
Speaker 8: that is exactly what I feel like, and you know
51:33
Speaker 8: I had that day last week. You'll get through it.
51:36
Speaker 8: I think for me, it's a lot about having giving
51:38
Speaker 8: myself the permission to to not be okay, or to
51:42
Speaker 8: struggle with things, or to find things hard. So social
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Speaker 8: media for me is just a nice place that I
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Speaker 8: can also find other people who are also feeling that way.
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Speaker 8: One of the sentences in my intro is about not
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Speaker 8: being alone, and I think a lot of that is
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Speaker 8: what social media brings.
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Speaker 7: It brings to you a place.
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Speaker 8: Yes, it can be a highlight reel, but it can
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Speaker 8: also be a place where you see that you don't
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Speaker 8: be anyone who's.
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Speaker 7: Having an odd day.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think social media can be a great place
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Speaker 9: for connection.
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Speaker 6: I know we've been able to connect with.
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Speaker 9: People all over the world that would never get to
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Speaker 9: know I mean, you know, quote unquote know with we're
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Speaker 9: not for social media and being able to share in
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Speaker 9: the highs and the lows of their training, Like Tina
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Speaker 9: was saying, to know that you're not alone. When something
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Speaker 9: goes great, there's people to cheer you on, and to
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Speaker 9: know when something just falls apart that other.
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Speaker 10: People have been through that and they can kind of.
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Speaker 6: Help you put yourself back together.
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Speaker 9: And I guess I will say that the negative part
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Speaker 9: of social media is often we tend to, you know,
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Speaker 9: see all of our uncertainties and all of the negatives.
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Speaker 9: You know, we kind of tend to judge ourselves pretty harshly.
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Speaker 9: And then you can get in the comparison game and
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Speaker 9: you see someone else's highlight reel, so you know, you
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Speaker 9: can get in that comparison trap, and it's all say,
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Speaker 9: you know, if someone something that's not serving you on
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Speaker 9: social media, then you know you need to unfollow that.
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Speaker 9: Because there's plenty of positivity on social media.
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Speaker 6: There's communities for everyone.
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Speaker 9: People who can build you up, and so if you
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Speaker 9: feel like you're just getting this vibe that you're not
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Speaker 9: good enough, then that's probably.
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Speaker 10: Social media that you need to disconnect from.
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Speaker 6: So, you know, it could be very good.
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Speaker 7: It could be a.
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Speaker 9: Tool for really encouraging you and moving you forward, but
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Speaker 9: it can also be something that can.
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Speaker 2: Hold you back.
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Speaker 4: I think it's permission.
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Speaker 1: I think it's accountability, it's all the things that you
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Speaker 1: ladies are saying. I also believe that for me, I
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Speaker 1: had just this one awful long run this year that
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Speaker 1: for some like I had been doing a ton of traveling,
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Speaker 1: spending a lot of time alone. I went out on
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Speaker 1: the long run alone right when I got back, and
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Speaker 1: it was just downhill from the moment I started, and
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Speaker 1: I remember I finished it and I was just so
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Speaker 1: beside myself crying on a park bench near me. In
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Speaker 1: the next week, when I came back to go back
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Speaker 1: out for the next long run, I U, I said.
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Speaker 1: Before I walked out, I said my Instagram story, I said,
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Speaker 1: I'm about to go out there, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: I really need you guys like this cannot go like
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Speaker 1: it went last week. And so I had the notifications
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Speaker 1: from my dms going to my garment, which is not
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Speaker 1: something I always do, but I turn them on and
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Speaker 1: literally every two minutes for twenty two miles, someone DM
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Speaker 1: me and they told me complete strangers some of them
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Speaker 1: what motivates them to show up when things get hard,
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Speaker 1: And that is what the beauty.
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Speaker 2: Of social media is.
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Speaker 4: That is the stuff that's.
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Speaker 1: Worth focusing on, right It's just this opportunity to connect
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Speaker 1: with like minded individuals, regardless of where they are, that
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Speaker 1: share a common interest. And for me that day, it
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Speaker 1: was just a complete, complete.
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Speaker 4: Game changer for that I'm so thankful. I know we're
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Speaker 4: going to wrap up here.
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Speaker 1: First and foremost, I do want to say thank you
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Speaker 1: so much to you can. This has been an awesome
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Speaker 1: opportunity to sit down here with all of you, and
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Speaker 1: also to all of these wonderful ladies for sharing their insights.
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Speaker 1: I think we're all a little bit better after this,
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Speaker 1: don't you