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- 0:27I am your host Dino de Cespedes and as as always I'm joined by
- 0:31my Co host Mr. Grant Angle. What is up man?
- 0:34Buddy, I'm feeling fantastic. I think this show is worthy of
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- 0:48Yeah, sure, there. We go to you as well, man.
- 0:52I appreciate it. You know, I think that's in,
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- 1:00an important episode like this. And, you know, we're just over
- 1:03here in the USA having a completely normal one over here.
- 1:06Guys, don't look at us. Everything's fine in the United
- 1:09States of America. Everything's going great.
- 1:11Everything's going as planned. We're going to be a OK.
- 1:15Yeah, man, to be honest, I've kind of checked out a little bit
- 1:18for everything going on. I've been heavy into this, like
- 1:21Olympics, women's preview coverage.
- 1:23You know, we're going to knock through our tears today, get
- 1:26everyone slotted, which is going to be a super tough exercise.
- 1:28So I've been totally heads down in my research here.
- 1:31I mean, you could tell me Joe Biden dropped out of the
- 1:34election. And I mean, I don't know.
- 1:35That'd be news to me. So with that said, where do you
- 1:38wanna get? Started well.
- 1:39I think we should describe the conceit of this episode.
- 1:43How are we gonna talk about these teams?
- 1:45Let's rely on the old sports radio device of the tie ring
- 1:50system, my good man. We've done it a few times on
- 1:52this program before and the NWSL and other competitions.
- 1:56So I think it's only right. Let's dust it off, bring it back
- 2:00for the Olympics. We have some teams that that
- 2:02slot nicely. Maybe we'll have some
- 2:04discussion, maybe we'll have some disagreement on it, but
- 2:06let's place these teams on neat little tears for us to kind of
- 2:10watch for going into the tournament.
- 2:11I love it. So we did a little pre gaming
- 2:14beforehand. We landed basically on 4 tiers
- 2:17that we like. So bottom tier, that's going to
- 2:20be our participation ribbon tier basically.
- 2:22Happy to be here. Let's not get hurt, let's keep
- 2:24these games close, let's keep these games respectable.
- 2:27One level up from that is the bronze tier.
- 2:29So this is a team probably loses in the quarterfinals, but could
- 2:33also maybe steal the bronze, make the semis.
- 2:36So that's second to the bottom, our silver tier.
- 2:39This is a team that I think we want to believe can reach the
- 2:43final, but probably more of like a third place bronze medal type
- 2:46team. And then there's the gold tier.
- 2:48These are teams that we believe can win it all just flat out in
- 2:52this first tier, the participation ribbon tier, we're
- 2:54going to put four teams in here, right?
- 2:56So these need to be the teams that we don't believe are
- 2:59advancing. So real quick, the top two teams
- 3:03in the three groups that six teams total going to make the
- 3:06quarters, which two third place teams are also going to make the
- 3:08quarters. Now how that tiebreaker works,
- 3:11it's just total points, then it's goal difference, then it's
- 3:14total number of goals scored. And then from there I think
- 3:17we'll there's some fair play stuff.
- 3:19It gets a little wonky. So one third place team is not
- 3:23going to make the quarterfinals. None of the fourth place seems
- 3:26to make the quarterfinals. So I think as we roll out this
- 3:29participation ribbon tier, let's keep that in mind.
- 3:31Who do we think is finishing bottom of the group and then
- 3:33which third place team do we think is going to be unlucky
- 3:36team to be on the wrong end of some of those tiebreakers?
- 3:39Yeah, I think that makes sense. I will say after goals scored
- 3:43for the third place tiebreakers, Yep, it's fair play.
- 3:45Points and deductions for if somebody gets a straight red,
- 3:49people who get yellow cards, etcetera, etcetera.
- 3:51And the 5th tiebreaker, the drawing of lots.
- 3:53So let's see if we get down to that.
- 3:57I know we had that situation in the Kakaf W Gold Cup, so
- 4:00hopefully it doesn't come to that though.
- 4:02All right, let's get into it. Let's take turns kind of naming
- 4:05A-Team and let's see if we agree putting that team in that tears
- 4:09that sound about right. Well, we drew lots before the
- 4:11show, You came out on top, so go ahead and kick us off.
- 4:14Very good at lot drawing myself. All right, let's kick it off.
- 4:18You know, no disrespect to this team.
- 4:20Some teams just aren't going to advance in this tournament.
- 4:22Let's kick it off with the Football Ferns of New Zealand.
- 4:25I do not think they have the firepower to get through.
- 4:28Where do you land on this squad? I agree with that.
- 4:30I think probably least talented team top to bottom, they're
- 4:33going to really need to muck up these games to scratch out any
- 4:37kind of result. And ultimately the field is so
- 4:39stacked that you don't just need one result.
- 4:42Like even though even a big upset win from New Zealand
- 4:44wouldn't be enough to kind of carry them through.
- 4:46So full cosine, they are in my participation ribbon tier.
- 4:50All right, so I'm going to go up next.
- 4:52This one was a tough one. I've got Nigeria in my
- 4:56participation ribbon tier. They're in an absolutely stacked
- 4:58group. I think when you look at their
- 5:00attack, which Anna Canon, she's cooled off for sure.
- 5:04Sisala, she hasn't looked all the way right in a good while, I
- 5:07think probably since moving over to the WSL.
- 5:09Doesn't mean it's not going to happen.
- 5:11I just think the form is kind of cooled off.
- 5:13And I think ultimately this is just a pick based on the
- 5:16competitiveness of the field. And then the other tough thing
- 5:19for the Super Falcons, things get progressively more difficult
- 5:23for them. So they open the tournament
- 5:25against Brazil, No easy task there.
- 5:28Then it's the world champion Spain.
- 5:29And then if if there's still anything left, anything in the
- 5:32tank, they've got to go heads up against Japan.
- 5:35So suffice it to say, they need a result versus Brazil.
- 5:39And I think even then might be a little tricky for for their
- 5:41first Super Falcons to advance here.
- 5:43I think so. I think they'll likely have a
- 5:45hard time holding the ball in the midfield.
- 5:48You can never rule out in in a dozy game.
- 5:51Maybe it comes against Spain, maybe it comes against Japan.
- 5:53I agree with you here. I put I also had them in my
- 5:56participation ribbon tier. They were my first cut though.
- 5:59I'm kind of with you on the Oshwala point where she hasn't
- 6:02really broken out yet, but man, like it could certainly happen.
- 6:06So that's what made it tough for me.
- 6:08But the field is too deep. I think Group C is the is the
- 6:11real group of death or a group of life, depending on how you
- 6:14like to look at things. So yeah, it's a participation
- 6:17ribbon this year for him. Agreed.
- 6:19All right, So that's two slots down to to go.
- 6:21Who else do you have not making it out of the group stage?
- 6:25OK, this one hurts my heart a little bit.
- 6:27We've rooted for this team. I'm actually curious to see
- 6:29where you land on them. And I hate doing this to both of
- 6:33the African nations. I think Zambia is in such a
- 6:36difficult group. I think there's a possibility
- 6:40that they concede way too many goals and even if they surprise
- 6:44me and finish third, who knows if their goal differential is
- 6:48going to hold up. So I am going to posit the
- 6:52Copper Queens of Zambia. Well, my friend, this is our
- 6:56first disagreement. There we go.
- 6:58I thought I could. I thought it could be.
- 7:01So I'm with you. Obviously we're we're going to
- 7:04be looking at a Group B team here and who's going to finish
- 7:06in fourth. I actually had Australia in this
- 7:09spot. OK, so no Sam Kerr, she's such a
- 7:13huge figure, you know, for this Australian team and Chelsea
- 7:16Football Club is just like, OK, yeah, obviously like massive
- 7:19player, she's out. And then you look kind of up and
- 7:21down that Australian team, a lot of good players, but no Sam
- 7:25Kerr's. I mean, I think like, yeah, you
- 7:27know, maybe Ellie Carpenter might be knocking on the door of
- 7:30like sort of that upper echelon type player.
- 7:33But ultimately this Australia side, a lot of second and third
- 7:36options, a lot of really good players, you know, like, I think
- 7:39they're going to be really good and really solid.
- 7:41And then I think this is going to come into play when we talk a
- 7:43little bit more about Group B. But I feel like Group B is the
- 7:46group obviously USA, Germany, Zambia, Australia, where we
- 7:50could see a lot of draws. We could see a lot of like knock
- 7:54down, drag out, you know, like even that Spain, Japan, Brazil
- 7:57group Nigeria, like you can imagine some variance there.
- 8:00Obviously Japan beat Spain for no in the World Cup.
- 8:03You know, Spain could like lighted, you know, like I feel
- 8:05like there's gonna be, the gold differentials are gonna be
- 8:07pretty wild there. And I think in Group B, the gold
- 8:10differentials gonna be a little flatter.
- 8:11So I actually have Australia finishing fourth in this group.
- 8:14Oh wow. Yeah, so I think, I think that
- 8:17that's my team who gets eliminated.
- 8:19I mean, obviously we could see a Mary Fowler kind of like
- 8:22explosion here. We talked to Samantha Lewis
- 8:24about that. But even then, man, like these
- 8:26teams, like you could get a massive, huge game.
- 8:29You know, we talked about that with Brazil and Germany back in
- 8:31the World Cup. Both openers were straight
- 8:34fireworks. Both teams bounce down the group
- 8:36stage. So it's got to be more than just
- 8:37one really, really good performance.
- 8:39I think all of that is fair. I'll throw out there.
- 8:42So obviously, you know, you talked about somebody stepping
- 8:44up in the absence of Sam Kerr, Samantha Lewis from ABC Sport in
- 8:49Australia, who you should watch that episode of our conversation
- 8:52with. As Dino alluded to, Courtney
- 8:55Vine, she's 25 years old for Sydney in the A league last
- 8:58season she had ten goals, 6 assists.
- 9:00She's headed to the North Carolina Courage.
- 9:02I think she's going to be trying to use her speed to get out on
- 9:05the counter. You mentioned Mary Fowler four
- 9:07goals, 6 assists and 21 appearances for Manchester City
- 9:10last season. Let me let me run this one by
- 9:13you. Haley Rosso, 29 years old,
- 9:15reported to be leaving Real Madrid after one season revenge
- 9:19tour, auditioning for a big contract at another club.
- 9:23Little you know, kind of working on that chemistry with Mary
- 9:26Fowler 2020 year old Mary Fowler Manchester City football Club
- 9:30kind of kind of an up and coming player.
- 9:32And then you have Kyra Cooney cross 22 for your Arsenal, 2
- 9:35assists and 14 appearances for your Lady Gunners.
- 9:38Another player who has a high ceiling and an opportunity to
- 9:42kind of just grow her profile and then go back to Arsenal, go
- 9:46back to London and say play me more like, this is like, did you
- 9:50see what happened back there? And I think you're gonna be
- 9:52surprised actually, where I have Australia on my tears.
- 9:54Spoiler alert. I think this is going to be the
- 9:56biggest gap that we have. Oh, so I get where you're coming
- 10:01from. I like the way you put it, a lot
- 10:03of second options. I just wonder, is it the time
- 10:07that Mary Fowler or Courtney Vine evolve into a first option?
- 10:10Could be, certainly could be. All right.
- 10:12So we'll put a pin in that one. You've got Zambia here, I've got
- 10:15Australia here. We'll make some final decisions.
- 10:17We want to come together as a team as we're entering this
- 10:21giant tournament, get into full, full alignment, get all of our
- 10:24X's and O's in a row and come up with one set of definitive pre
- 10:29the Olympics tears. So that's what that's kind of
- 10:31like what we're that's the big objective.
- 10:33That's that's the the piece of plastic that we slap before we
- 10:36go out onto the to the pitch. Align tears, bang.
- 10:42All right, I like it. My 4th team not advancing.
- 10:46This one was. This one was a heartbreaker.
- 10:49Apologies to the legend Julia Bellas Tindash.
- 10:52I don't think Brazil is making it out of the quarterfinals.
- 10:58You know, we talked about the the group dynamics and I think
- 11:00this is where the tiebreakers play a huge role because I think
- 11:04the goal differential ramifications of playing Japan
- 11:08and playing Spain and maybe even Nigeria also I think just could
- 11:12be too devastating. So Brazil could be a team that
- 11:14that beats Nigeria three nil or three one or something of that
- 11:17sort and then just sort of backslides from a goal
- 11:20differential standpoint. So I think once I kind of ran
- 11:23through a, you know, a little quick simulation on my notebook,
- 11:26I just don't think Brazil has the the defensive prowess.
- 11:31I think those more organized teams to Spain's, the Japan's
- 11:34are going to put too big of an L on this Brazil side for them to
- 11:38be able to overcome. I think one of those teams in
- 11:40the group maybe, but but those two I think are just too
- 11:44overwhelming. Yeah, I think that's totally
- 11:46fair. They were close for me.
- 11:49So I think I, I think I could be swayed.
- 11:51Yeah. You have Tarsiana, you talk
- 11:53about her, she's like still developing.
- 11:55So like, how much can you really ask this 20 year old?
- 11:59I think she is somewhere around there like a young 20s player.
- 12:03Like, hey, I'm going to need you to anchor the defense against
- 12:05Spain and Japan. That could be tough.
- 12:09Not a great spot to be in. My last participation ribbon
- 12:12tier team, I had Columbia, who I knew that.
- 12:15I thought that would hurt your heart to leave them out too.
- 12:18I think they might end up being vulnerable in defense.
- 12:22You kind of saw it play out in the World Cup.
- 12:23They're able to get through the group stage, but then put in a
- 12:26good effort, have tough, smart players, just not quite enough
- 12:31talent around. So those were two teams that I,
- 12:34I thought maybe could be, could be interchangeable.
- 12:37So I had, I had Brazil and my bronze tier and Colombia as one
- 12:41of my first one out after, after Nigeria.
- 12:44So I feel like they're in the in a similar ballpark.
- 12:47I think that's fair. Let me tell you what I liked
- 12:49about Colombia. Yeah.
- 12:50So First things first, they share a group in New Zealand,
- 12:54so. That's going to help.
- 12:56That's essentially like, you know, it's almost like a bye
- 12:59week in the old NFL playoffs. We're just like, this is a huge
- 13:02advantage, right? So I think, you know,
- 13:04unfortunately, I think that's three points and a pretty nice
- 13:07jump start on the gold differential conversation.
- 13:09Sure. I really like the firepower of
- 13:11Colombia. I mean, just just to kind of
- 13:13like scoot ahead. I had them in my bronze tier.
- 13:16So it looks like we've got Colombia, Brazil sort of
- 13:18flip-flopped. And I think ultimately what it
- 13:20came down to is I think that I think having New Zealand in your
- 13:23group is, is enough to speak, OK, this might be a free three
- 13:26and a nice goal differential boost.
- 13:28Brazil does not have the benefit of that, which is why I had
- 13:32those teams where they did. So can I talk you into flipping
- 13:35those two? I can buy that.
- 13:37I think that is a is a fairpoint.
- 13:39I do it with a heavy heart. Same with you.
- 13:40I know we got a lot of love for Brazil, the way they play
- 13:43football as a nation in general. I mean, Gabby Nunez for Levante,
- 13:4711 goals, 4 assists in Liga F last year.
- 13:49That's good for top ten in that league.
- 13:51We've talked about the form that Adriana has been in for your
- 13:53Orlando Pride, especially lately, three goals and an
- 13:56assist in the NWSL. Let me just put it out there.
- 13:58I have in my notes Ketoline. What can they get from her?
- 14:03Could she possibly be the difference between playing for a
- 14:07medal or being bounced before you get to the knockout stage?
- 14:10I think I think that's a heavy question and I know it's hard to
- 14:13put that that kind of expectation on a player
- 14:15returning from an ACL. But I thought in our discussion
- 14:19with Julia Bellas Trindage for the Guardian, who you should
- 14:22read her work and go back and watch that episode.
- 14:24It seems like the courage has been purposely leaving her out
- 14:27so she could be peak coming in the Olympics.
- 14:29Man, that really kind of gets some ideas going in my head.
- 14:31But I think you're right about the competition being stiff.
- 14:34It's tough to put Ghetto lean in there and be like good luck
- 14:37against Spain and Japan and Nigeria for that matter, because
- 14:40they'll play physical defense. 100% I think it's really like
- 14:43under selling it to call her an X Factor, but she she could
- 14:46absolutely swing this team's fortunes big time.
- 14:49It's wild to think this whole tournament's going to go down
- 14:52over the course of 17 days. So it's like you got to you got
- 14:55to get you got to get through six matches successfully over 17
- 14:59days. So go figure.
- 15:00All right, so bronze tier, I covered Colombia, that was
- 15:02that's my first bronze tier team.
- 15:04Who do you have in your bronze tier?
- 15:07I can't quit them. I'm going to put Germany in this
- 15:10tier. Never right off Germany.
- 15:12Delina Oberdorf ACL injury brutal.
- 15:15Really sucks. Giant bummer.
- 15:17Good luck, Delina in her recovery.
- 15:19You know, we wish her a full and speedy recovery.
- 15:21As we always do. We say too much in this show.
- 15:23As the ACL epidemic continues in this sport, we're just hoping
- 15:26for some solutions and hopefully some better practices or you
- 15:29know, just even discovery of what the better practices are in
- 15:32this sport. But kind of moving past that,
- 15:35the Oberdorf injury, I think it lowers the ceiling.
- 15:37They still have a good roster. I think when I look at Germany
- 15:41and I was kind of thinking about that roster and those players
- 15:44and going back and watching some of their games.
- 15:46They have to stop with the high turnovers.
- 15:49They do not have a good enough defense to survive giving the
- 15:54ball away in their own defending 3rd.
- 15:56And they need to start hammering teams with set pieces.
- 15:59Leia Schuler had six goals and two assists in their last like 6
- 16:03€6 qualifying matches. Clara Buell had five goals and
- 16:06one assist in Euro qualifying. Julia Gwynn has three goals and
- 16:09one assist in Euro qualifying. And then when I said that to
- 16:11myself out loud, like as I was kind of watching some old games
- 16:14and thinking about looking at the roster, if you are a team
- 16:17and your keys are we have to stop turning the ball over high
- 16:21and we need to cash in on set pieces, then your ceiling is
- 16:25probably a bronze. I agree with that, yeah.
- 16:27And I think it would be, it would be a bit of a stretch to
- 16:30even get that bronze. I, I, I did a whole faux wacky
- 16:34bracket on my side. I had the same German side
- 16:38getting getting through the group stage but getting bounced
- 16:41in the quarters. I just don't think they have the
- 16:43firepower. I think defensively they're too
- 16:45much of a mess. We talked about this with Bridey
- 16:47O2 on our USA preview show. Clinched or no clinched, you
- 16:51still kind of have to like Merle Fromms can't be out here, you
- 16:55know, butterfingering the ball and like just kind of giving
- 16:57away goals, you know, just Willy nilly.
- 17:00Yeah, especially just weeks whopping now it's like we're
- 17:03days with these. It's coming up real fast.
- 17:07Cannot wait. But yeah, I think I think
- 17:09they're just too like too sloppy.
- 17:11And I think the turnovers you mentioned is a great call to
- 17:13certainly symptomatic of like just a team that's not really
- 17:17firing totally on all cylinders. So I I also had them in my
- 17:20bronze tier. All right, in agreement.
- 17:22Boom. So I've got Zambia as my third
- 17:25bronze tier team, I've got three in the bronze tier and I've got
- 17:28Zambia here. I think they might have lucked
- 17:30out with their draw, to be honest.
- 17:32We talked about Germany, their defensive shortcomings.
- 17:35Australia too, The great Sam Lewis was on the show talking
- 17:37about, you know, gets a little spotty defensively.
- 17:39And I think when you're going up against Banda, when you're going
- 17:43up against Kundanagi, you know, in the NBA and NFL, when a
- 17:46player gets drafted, what do they always say is the first
- 17:48thing that is like the biggest difference from the last place
- 17:51that they played, making the leap up to the professionals.
- 17:54It's it's the speed, right? So playing Banda, playing
- 17:58Kundanagi and just the the quick turn around nature of it.
- 18:01And I know Germany knows this NBA side pretty well, knows
- 18:05Bondo pretty well. Australia's got some athletes
- 18:07too, but I think it's just going to be too fast.
- 18:10Like I think there's going to be an adjustment period.
- 18:13It'll take a lot for them to kind of like make a leap, but on
- 18:18the same token, you don't expect like the eight favorites to be
- 18:21the 8th that that qualify kind of do expect a little bit of
- 18:24variance here. And I think Zambia might have
- 18:26lucked out, you know, drawing a Germany drawing in Australia.
- 18:29If they can scratch something out against you, I think they're
- 18:31going to be able to score just going to become defensively.
- 18:34Are they going to be able to stay in these games?
- 18:36And I think Group B has a lot of like one ones, two twos, one nil
- 18:4121, you know, like I think these are going to be close games in
- 18:43this group. OK.
- 18:45I can buy all that. I mean, obviously if I had them
- 18:47in the participation ribbon tier on my individual tiers, it's not
- 18:52a big stretch to put them in the bronze tier.
- 18:55So I think that's, I think you raised some good points.
- 18:57I mean, the speed is a problem. We saw the speed present a
- 19:00problem for Germany in those pre World Cup matches in 2023.
- 19:05I worry if they're going to have enough of the ball to not just
- 19:09be completely run ragged before they get those chances.
- 19:13But good luck running some supreme athletes.
- 19:17It's like that. Good luck tiring them out in the
- 19:19first 180 minutes that they play.
- 19:21Maybe you might be able to get away with that in their third
- 19:24match in like 6 days or something like that, but maybe
- 19:26they're already qualified by then.
- 19:28So I'm with you. Let's put let's put the copper
- 19:30Queens on the on the bronze medal tier.
- 19:32All right. So does that mean you're
- 19:34swapping them? You're not swapping them right?
- 19:36I'm not swapping them, buddy, because here's the curveball in
- 19:39my in my tiers, I only had Brazil and Germany in the
- 19:43bronze. OK, so we've already kicked
- 19:47Brazil down to participation ribbon.
- 19:49Now we got Zambia up top. So that means we've only got 3
- 19:53in participation now, Nigeria, New Zealand and Brazil.
- 19:56Now we got a math problem that I didn't expect, and I'm terrible
- 19:59at that. I mean it, it really just
- 20:01depends. OK, so I had Australia finishing
- 20:03fourth just because I, I do harken back also to the World
- 20:07Cup where, you know, even when they get past France, it's a
- 20:09nil, nil that goes to PK's, you know.
- 20:11So I think like I'm a little weary of their, their score,
- 20:14boring prowess and a quick tournament like this and them
- 20:17not being at home, which we saw them at home in the World Cup.
- 20:19I think I I could be OK. Well, let me let me throw this
- 20:22your way. You don't seem too enthused
- 20:24about this German side. Is there a world where Germany
- 20:27finishes 4th in this group? I certainly think there is.
- 20:30I think it's on the board, yeah. So let me propose this.
- 20:35Let me propose this. Fuck, this is wild.
- 20:37But let's move Germany down to the participation ribbon tier
- 20:42because I like Zambia advancing. I'm on my soothsayer shit.
- 20:45This evening I lit some candles. You know, I was, I was, I was
- 20:49tracking some stars and some celestial beings, you know,
- 20:52moving, moving around. And I think I like Zambia
- 20:54advancing. So I'd like to keep them up.
- 20:56I want to put Germany in our participation ribbon tier.
- 20:59I think we just do that. OK, I think we can make that
- 21:02work because as I've pretty much spoiled it by saying there were
- 21:05only two teams on my bronze tier.
- 21:07I had Australia in my silver tier and that was because I I
- 21:11like Tony Gustafson. I thought he made a lot of
- 21:14adjustments. Samantha Lewis pointed to that.
- 21:15He has them play different ways. He's an adjustments guy.
- 21:18I like a lot of their young talent.
- 21:20I do think they're kind of poised to all kind of start
- 21:23taking those collective steps together.
- 21:25You see Sam Kerr have a big injury like this.
- 21:28They all kind of got to be looking at each other like
- 21:30Father Time's undefeated. Eventually Sam Kerr's not going
- 21:33to play for our side anymore. I'm pretty high on them.
- 21:36But I say if we move Germany there, I'm cool with putting
- 21:40Australia into the bronze tier. Is that kind of what you're
- 21:43envisioning? So right now, that would put us,
- 21:45this is funny, we're doing the show behind the show on the
- 21:48show. So that would put us
- 21:49participation. Nigeria, New Zealand, Germany,
- 21:51Brazil. Right.
- 21:53Yes. OK, so then for bronze, that
- 21:55means that we've got Colombia and Zambia.
- 21:58The textbook definition for the bronze is probably loses in the
- 22:01quarters. This team could also win bronze.
- 22:05Do we think Australia meets that criteria?
- 22:08Probably losing the quarters. Could their Their ceiling might
- 22:10be a bronze. I think so.
- 22:12I'd say that's the more reasonable tier.
- 22:15I think they're a threat to make the semis and either lose in the
- 22:19bronze medal match or win the bronze.
- 22:21OK, I love it. All right, so that means I had
- 22:23them in the 4th tier. You had them in the second tier.
- 22:25They're gonna settle nicely right into the third tier.
- 22:28Look at that. We keep it moving there we go
- 22:30love it all right silver tier. I've got two teams here.
- 22:34I think you've got one left here because we bumped Australia
- 22:36down. So I'll go first here give me
- 22:38Canada silver super solid a lot like Columbia.
- 22:42They share a group in New Zealand.
- 22:44We can't overlook that simple fact.
- 22:45You know like you kind of wonder Adriana Leon, who we talked
- 22:49about on the preview show for Canada, if she can like really
- 22:51carry all of that load. But in this instance, I do think
- 22:55that a, all of their units are strong all the way back to
- 22:58goalkeeper, right? So it's like they don't have
- 23:00that absolute, absolute killer in attack.
- 23:03But I love the unit. I think the unit got a lot of
- 23:06good talent on it and they're going to be tough to contend
- 23:08with. Athletically.
- 23:10They're an impressive team. I do think this team could reach
- 23:12the semis if things broke perfectly, perfectly for them.
- 23:16I could see this team sneaking into the final.
- 23:18Obviously, this is our defending gold medal squad.
- 23:20So yeah, I think this is the right spot for this Canada team.
- 23:23I think so too. I'm in agreement with you.
- 23:24They are also who I had in the silver tier.
- 23:28I'll say this was them in another squad for the too
- 23:30toughest for me, because I did also think, OK, well, if I'm
- 23:33putting somebody in the silver medal tier and I kind of play
- 23:36with that a little bit with Australia, but for Canada and
- 23:39this other team we'll talk about shortly.
- 23:40I'm sure I did think like, well, if I think Canada could win the
- 23:43silver medal, then they have to be they're on the board to win
- 23:46the gold because if you make the final, you can win the final.
- 23:49Something weird can happen and you like even if you're up
- 23:51against Spain, like you know, you could nick one and you could
- 23:54possibly get it. I'm glad you bring up Adriana.
- 23:57Leon almost beat the USA by herself and she believes she was
- 24:00their lone goal scorer in the 23 World Cup.
- 24:04Which I had to like, remind myself, like I had to go back.
- 24:06I was like staring at the stats. I was like, yeah, that is right
- 24:09isn't it? But luckily she has capable
- 24:11teammates on on her side with her.
- 24:13Evelyn Viens, 27 years old, played at Roma last season in
- 24:16Syria. Thirteen goals, 6 assists.
- 24:19She's a top goal scorer in Syria.
- 24:21She also had one goal in the UA for Women's Champions League and
- 24:24she was fourth in Syria and assists with those six.
- 24:26So a productive player. And then Miriam, you speak of
- 24:30Miriam Karabi from she scores bangers.
- 24:32Go subscribe to that podcast on any platform.
- 24:34Of course, Miriam talked about Jesse Fleming and I just
- 24:38couldn't agree with her more is that, yes, sometimes she does
- 24:40have that little bit of tendency to kind of disappear from some
- 24:43matches. But she also has the ability to
- 24:45just for 30 to 40 minute stretches look like one of the
- 24:50two or three or maybe even the best player on the pitch in her
- 24:53ability to pick out passes, to play angles to just kind of
- 24:56control the ball. You could see where sometimes
- 24:59she looks like the fulcrum of Portland Thorns offense.
- 25:02And in a couple matches this year with not a ton of time with
- 25:05that club, obviously, this is her first year with the Thorns
- 25:07after coming over from Chelsea, she was looking like the fulcrum
- 25:10of the offense to get the ball up to Sophie Smith.
- 25:13And so anytime you look that good on a team that has Sophie
- 25:16Smith on the team, you're doing something right.
- 25:18So I think the ceiling is high. And even though they are the
- 25:23defending reigning Olympic gold medalists, I feel like we're
- 25:26both also trying to do our pal Miriam a favor by we're
- 25:30disrespecting you, Canada. You can't win the gold.
- 25:34And then and then if they come back and they do it, then we can
- 25:36we can just pull the sports radio thing and be like, well,
- 25:38you know, we motivated them. I I'm pretty sure we did and
- 25:42it's great. Great point on Jesse Fleming
- 25:44too. You know, when you were saying,
- 25:46OK, good 20-30 minute stretch, I totally agree with that.
- 25:49But Jesse Fleming's also the kind of player that can make a
- 25:52pass or make a play where you're like, oh, OK, almost nobody can
- 25:55do that, right? Exactly.
- 25:57Like in a good spot. So I think she's got both those
- 26:00things going for her. And like we said, I think front
- 26:02to back they're, they're going to be really tough to contend
- 26:05with. I think I might surprise you
- 26:06here with my second silver tier team.
- 26:09Let me know if you're ready. I am ready.
- 26:12I've got to put them here. I think the US women's national
- 26:15team is drawing a little, drawing a little dead.
- 26:19When you look at the absolute top of this field.
- 26:22I think this team can reach the final.
- 26:25I think this team will reach the semifinals.
- 26:27I just about lost my fucking mind last week when I was just
- 26:30like, give me the USA for the field.
- 26:31I think I was coming off, you know, a very riveting one.
- 26:34Nil over Mexico to nil, nil go to against Costa Rica.
- 26:37Not sure what got into me. I think looking at the attack
- 26:40and I think we'll get into some of the favorites a little bit
- 26:42later, but I just get mesmerized by those three up top.
- 26:46Yes. And then there's like excellent
- 26:48singular players in spots on the squad.
- 26:52Doesn't mean as a unit they get fully cooking, but they're
- 26:55excellent players all over the field and those three up top are
- 26:59just devastating. But with that said, there's a
- 27:01lot still left to be desired. So a lot still left to be
- 27:04figured out by Emma Hayes and this team.
- 27:07It's not just, hey, does Emma Hayes know what to do?
- 27:09But can things get stalled, digested, downloaded, you know,
- 27:14rolled out and actually observed on the field in play, like when
- 27:19the tournaments going on against these top tier teams, that's
- 27:22when it gets a little bit tricky.
- 27:24And I think ultimately, I think the Cat Macario injury, you
- 27:27know, might have popped the balloon before things even got
- 27:30started just because you really did see, OK, we're missing a
- 27:34we're missing a pretty important connector there in the middle of
- 27:36the field that could come into play later down the line.
- 27:40So I want to take a quick 22nd here.
- 27:42Let me know what you think of my USA in the silver tier.
- 27:45It doesn't sound like you you we're on the same page, but I'm
- 27:47I'm dying to hear your your feedback on this one.
- 27:50I don't vehemently disagree, man.
- 27:52They are the team that I had the hardest time choosing between
- 27:56gold and silver. And it's for a lot of those same
- 27:59reasons. I think Lavelle is a more than
- 28:02capable #10 do I think you can play Rose Lavelle 70 minutes in
- 28:08three matches that happened in the span of like six or seven
- 28:11days? I don't think you can.
- 28:13I think it will. It would be borderline
- 28:14irresponsible to do that. I bet you Rose Rose wants to be
- 28:17out there. I bet you Lavelle wants to play.
- 28:19But her injury history suggests that that would not be the right
- 28:24thing for her. And then when you do that and
- 28:26you know, like you and I have been on this program for a while
- 28:28now, touting Jaden Shaw as a potential up and coming
- 28:32superstar. And Bridie O'Toole touched on it
- 28:35in our conversation with her. I don't think Shaw is quite that
- 28:38number 10 yet. I think she can grow to be that.
- 28:41I think she has the all the physical skills and the
- 28:44definitely the mental ability to do it.
- 28:46She doesn't quite have that yet. So the Macario injury is a
- 28:50killer, pretty devastating, maybe more so than we we even
- 28:54thought when it first happened. So even though I did, I had them
- 28:58as my last one on the gold tier. I can easily cosign drop them
- 29:02down to the silver tier with you, I think.
- 29:04I think that's fair. All right, let's go ahead and do
- 29:06that. Like I mentioned, I filled out,
- 29:08I did fill out a little bracket and in my in my little wacky
- 29:11bracket, I had Japan actually winning Group C, which pushes
- 29:16Spain to the second spot because I could just see Japan like
- 29:19lighting up either Brazil or Nigeria.
- 29:21Sure. Sort of like storming out ahead
- 29:23from a goal differential standpoint and then just
- 29:25basically winning on the math, right?
- 29:27Doesn't mean they're better than Spain, but that could happen.
- 29:29If that does happen and USA wins their group, it's USA, Spain in
- 29:33the quarter finals. And I'm not necessarily rooting
- 29:35for anything. I like all these teams for
- 29:37different reasons. But the thing that I am rooting
- 29:39for, I want to see USA versus Spain on the field.
- 29:43That's the only thing I want. I want to see these two teams
- 29:47play head to head. I mean, it's a guaranteed
- 29:49banger. You know, it might end up being
- 29:51very fortunate for for USAI think, you know, in our
- 29:55conversation with Brady, I can be a little self deprecating and
- 29:58say, you know, I love a good overreaction and and things like
- 30:01that. But I I stand by I think if USA
- 30:04plays Spain, I think it's probably more likely than not
- 30:09that it's not that close of a match.
- 30:11I think there are probably two goals between those two teams
- 30:13right now as it stands. And like you make a great point.
- 30:17Emma Hayes hasn't installed everything yet, and the players
- 30:20aren't playing in that system with any kind of consistency
- 30:22yet. Emma Hayes has talked about that
- 30:24specifically, too. It's just like we can't just
- 30:26snap a finger at everything I want everybody to do.
- 30:28They just do. It's just not realistic.
- 30:30And I think Jaden Shaw, who you brought up, I mean, she could be
- 30:34an excellent player. You know, when she hits her
- 30:36prime, she could be an excellent player in this tournament.
- 30:39Sure. But this roster is currently
- 30:40constructed. Kind of needs Jaden Shaw to be
- 30:44that now, right? Which is tough because I think
- 30:47like Rose Lavelle, I mean she's an excellent player too.
- 30:51And it's not her fault, you know, the injury, not even lift
- 30:54take the injuries off the table. I think Roosevelt is a little
- 30:58bit maybe too much of like a heads down attacking type
- 31:02player, which is extremely valuable, right?
- 31:05I mean, you cannot predict where she's going to go.
- 31:07She can go any direction at very fast speeds and and be
- 31:11dangerous. But against these top tier
- 31:13teams, we're going to have to work to get some of these goals
- 31:16and we're going to have to string together 345 excellent
- 31:20passes. And I think like Roosevelt,
- 31:22could she do that? Sure.
- 31:23But like, is that her game? Is that who she is?
- 31:25Is that her like sort of like top tier skill?
- 31:28She's better at other stuff than that.
- 31:30So I think it sort of leaves, you know, a pretty big vacuum
- 31:33for for a player looking to do that.
- 31:35I want to Fast forward, though, to our gold tier because we've
- 31:37already hit a couple of these teams, if I'm not mistaken.
- 31:41Well, if we agree on USA as a silver, that means you've got
- 31:44three teams in your gold. Yep, and I think it seems like
- 31:47we're perfectly aligned at this point.
- 31:49I believe so. All right, so let's start with
- 31:51the Champs. Spain, who we talked about a
- 31:53little bit when I say the Champs, so talk World Cup champs
- 31:57and nations that even include that.
- 31:59Disrespecting Canada? He did it again, Miriam.
- 32:06Now, I would never disrespect, you know, Evolvia ends in that
- 32:09in that squad. So Spain, when you look at that
- 32:12USA matchup specifically, right? And we know the USA's weakness
- 32:16is probably the midfield. And just like the general
- 32:20creativity and being able to control the game from the
- 32:22midfield. Let's go through who Spain is
- 32:25sending to Paris in their midfield from Real Madrid.
- 32:29You've got Teresa by era and Athenea del Castillo, 2 absolute
- 32:35home run hitters. The other three players in the
- 32:37midfield, Batri, Alexia, Pedeas, and only the best player on the
- 32:41planet, Aitana Bomati. So they're sending those five in
- 32:44the midfield and the USA is sending.
- 32:48We already know who the USA, the USA is sending.
- 32:50That's going to be a long day contending with those players.
- 32:53I think upfront is maybe where Spain doesn't necessarily have
- 32:57the best attacking unit. Still really great players.
- 32:59Caldente Sampatibello, Jenny Hermoso are kind of like the
- 33:02three headliners there. Defensively super solid.
- 33:05We already know that back line got that coy and goal.
- 33:08Batier and Carmona up the left and right hand sides.
- 33:10They're going to be extremely dangerous, but I don't feel bad
- 33:13saying that the USA is probably drawing dead against Spain.
- 33:16Most teams, almost every team except for one that I want to
- 33:19get into soon here, might be just absolutely drawing dead
- 33:22against against the Spanish side.
- 33:24Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, I can't I can't walk
- 33:27back that I said I think there are probably two goals between
- 33:30Spain and USA on most days. Obviously you never know what's
- 33:33gonna happen in football. But and you know, you bring up
- 33:35Puteas. We talked about it back when we
- 33:37talked about the the Champions League final with Chris Sharples
- 33:41from the zone who called that match.
- 33:43You know, Puteas won the ball endor in 21 and 22 and then had
- 33:48that devastating injury and kind of Beaumati took the mantle.
- 33:51So, you know, as Puteas kind of keeps working back, she's coming
- 33:55off that an incredible Champions League winning goal.
- 33:59You got to deal with her in the midfield and if your team has
- 34:02any questions in your midfield or even any questions in the
- 34:06defense, you're just not going to have a chance against this
- 34:09squad. This midfield is going to
- 34:10dominate. Yeah, so I'm glad you bring up
- 34:12the the midfield. Obviously possession is a huge
- 34:15indicator of kind of how your midfield, you typically how your
- 34:18midfield is able to control a match.
- 34:20So let's just talk about some of the the latest Euro qualifiers,
- 34:22understanding that these are not Olympic caliber squads.
- 34:25But just let's let's hear the numbers for a second.
- 34:28They had 77% of the ball in their last match.
- 34:30First Belgium, they had 76% of the ball versus Chechea in that
- 34:34weird loss where they conceded a penalty.
- 34:36They missed a penalty. Pattihuela hit the woodwork what
- 34:38felt like 8 times. The two fixtures versus Denmark,
- 34:42they had 70% of the ball in 174% of the ball.
- 34:45In the other, in their first match against Chechnya that they
- 34:47won that 76% of the ball. And then in their first match
- 34:51against Belgium where they beat them like 7 to nothing or
- 34:53something like that, they had 72% possession.
- 34:56They just play keep away and they know where everybody's
- 34:59going to be and they're playing every single passing angle that
- 35:02they can. And you can never disrupt all of
- 35:04their passing lanes. They all know where each other's
- 35:06going to be. And just for fun, if you say,
- 35:08OK, well, Belgium, Chachiya, Denmark, congratulations, they
- 35:12had 60% of the ball versus France in the UEFA Women's
- 35:15Nations League final. And we watched that game.
- 35:18That game was not particularly close either.
- 35:20No, I mean, that was a total handling of of that French side.
- 35:24Yep, this is where I kind of don't feel so bad about about
- 35:28having these three teams up in that top tier just because they
- 35:31could do everything. All right, So let me know who
- 35:33else you had in your gold tier outside of the Champs.
- 35:37I can't contain myself. I want to talk about Japan now.
- 35:40Let's go. I think they could win the
- 35:42tournament. Anata Miyazawa, 23 years old,
- 35:45Golden Boot winner in the 2023 World Cup.
- 35:48She signed with Manchester United Football Club at a wrong,
- 35:51wrong Manchester club. Anata, come on anyway.
- 35:54She signed with Manchester United, fractured her ankle in
- 35:57December, went on to miss like 3 months for the Reds, making her
- 36:00come back back on the national stage.
- 36:02Alba Fujino, another forward, 19 years old, had really just like
- 36:07audacious play, lots of skill in the 23 World Cup, was like one
- 36:11of the players that really kind of stands out in my memory.
- 36:14She LED her squad in the Wii League, the WE League in Japan
- 36:18with nine goals. She also LED Japan in the last
- 36:21World Cup in just minutes played.
- 36:24I just love her creativity out there.
- 36:26She plays with an attitude too that I really like.
- 36:28Then you have the legend Saki Kumagai, 33 years old, the
- 36:31ageless wonder in use. She played pretty well for Roma
- 36:35during the Champions League, from what we saw.
- 36:37She did have some moments where she kind of looked 33 out there,
- 36:42but it's only natural that you're going to see this
- 36:44champion slow down a little bit. But we call her a champion for a
- 36:47reason. She was a part of that 2011
- 36:49World Cup champion team for Japan.
- 36:52And then the last player I want to highlight, Mina Tanaka, 29
- 36:55years old, of Kobe Leonessa over the wee league in Japan.
- 36:59Eight goals and eight assists helping Kobe Leonessa to 2nd in
- 37:04the WE League. They play together, they're
- 37:06skilled, they're audacious, they're daring, and they're
- 37:09smart. I'm just so excited to watch
- 37:11every match this team plays, just like we watched every match
- 37:14they played in the World Cup. Yeah, I'm totally with you man.
- 37:16I not to reference the wacky bracket again, but in my wacky
- 37:20bracket I had Japan in the final.
- 37:21I love it. They're going to be just a
- 37:23nightmare to deal with. You didn't even mention Yui
- 37:26Hasegawa from Manchester City, who pretty much led the WSL in
- 37:30past completion percentage from the from the midfield.
- 37:34They're just going to be a problem.
- 37:35And I think you see it. Their style of play is unique.
- 37:38Tough to deal with, tough to kind of like know where the runs
- 37:41are coming from. I think we saw that in the World
- 37:42Cup. We've seen that in some of these
- 37:43big tournaments. What I love about this, the
- 37:45Japan side is they obviously share a group of Spain.
- 37:48So we'll get Japan, Spain in the group stage, which will be a
- 37:51rematch from last year's World Cup.
- 37:53Japan blank, Spain 4 nil. Spain goes on to win the whole
- 37:56thing. We'll get the rematch here and
- 37:58we could get another rematch down the line.
- 38:00Well, at least that's how my bracket shook out.
- 38:02So I think there's going to be some real swagger to that
- 38:06matchup. Like, you know, both teams are
- 38:08going to feel like, yeah, this is this is this is just a day at
- 38:10the office for us. I think when they, when they go
- 38:12heads up, there's not going to be any, you know, it's not the
- 38:14same dynamic as we have Spain and France where big sister,
- 38:17little sister, like France gonna need to like really, you know,
- 38:20go up a level, maybe 2 levels, you know, to kind of like get
- 38:23over the hump versus a Spain. Japan's not going to feel like
- 38:26that at all. I could not agree more.
- 38:28I think you're totally right. And so I I went back and I
- 38:31watched some highlights and just kind of skipped through the
- 38:33match just to watch different parts of Japan's loss in the
- 38:38quarterfinals to Sweden at the 23 World Cup.
- 38:41And this is another match like I talked about, like kind of the
- 38:43weird bounces that led to Spain losing the Chechnya and the Euro
- 38:47qualifiers. You know, we talked about it at
- 38:49the time we were watching the tournament, kind of doing our
- 38:51thing for a different podcast than for a different show then.
- 38:54But I will go the rest of my days and maintain that Japan
- 38:58could have won that match against Sweden.
- 39:00They were not physically overwhelmed.
- 39:02And Sweden, you know what time it is when you go play a big
- 39:05Nordic country like that, they try to beat you with set pieces.
- 39:08They try to out physical you. Japan was not fazed by that
- 39:11style of play. They still knocked the ball
- 39:13around. They missed a penalty in that
- 39:15that match. They hit the crossbar a couple
- 39:18times. They had a couple balls off the
- 39:20post, they had an unlucky handball in the box to concede a
- 39:23penalty. So at the risk of repeating
- 39:25myself, they are smart and organized, but what they put on
- 39:28top of that intelligence and that organization is that they
- 39:32will take you on. They have multiple players who
- 39:34will take you on one-on-one and say I could beat you with skill
- 39:37and speed and precision at the same time.
- 39:39And I just think in a condensed tournament like that, that can
- 39:42be a recipe for winning the whole thing.
- 39:44Yeah, I mean, it could be. We mentioned the six matches, 17
- 39:48days. It might take ten matches, 30 or
- 39:5140 days to kind of figure out exactly what this Japan is
- 39:54doing, but just determine it's going to be well, you know, well
- 39:57over and done with and they might be holding one of those
- 39:59medals. All right, so we got full
- 40:01alignment there. That leaves one side and that is
- 40:03France. This seems loaded with talent.
- 40:05Also shares a group with New Zealand, a CO2 Filey.
- 40:08She joined us for our France preview and I think the thing
- 40:12that she said that really, really stuck with me is this is
- 40:15a little bit of now or never for France.
- 40:18You know, there are no young players.
- 40:20Selma Basha, future ITC Hall of Famer, 23 years old, I think the
- 40:23youngest player in the squad as of right now.
- 40:26So this is sort of. Their golden generation all the
- 40:29way up to like Eugenie Laissemer who found her way onto this
- 40:33team. And then you have Irby Renard, 1
- 40:36foot in, one foot out and they're at home and there's the
- 40:39big, there's the big bad squad from Spain that's just gave them
- 40:43that work. The last few times they've gone
- 40:45head to head. You sort of feel like you're
- 40:48going to get everything that they have in this tournament.
- 40:51I think if this was played in a different country, I might have
- 40:54dropped them down to the silver tier, but they're at home and
- 40:57they're just sort of like everything sort of is
- 41:00culminating towards maybe hopefully for them, a storybook
- 41:03ending. But even still, you zoom out,
- 41:05you look at objectively they have tremendous players.
- 41:08They got a pretty clean draw with their group.
- 41:13So I think you do expect them to advance.
- 41:15And lastly, if France is able to win Group A, they will get
- 41:19matched up to the third place team in either Group B or C OK.
- 41:24They won't be matched up against the 2nd place team in the
- 41:26quarters. That could potentially be Zambia
- 41:29or Australia or Germany for France, or it could be Nigeria
- 41:34or Brazil. Pretty nice pathway into the
- 41:36semifinal, maybe for this French team.
- 41:38I couldn't agree more, buddy. And let me just, it was a little
- 41:42sweaty as I pull it out of the Koozie 2 beer show.
- 41:46Hey, to celebrate the Olympics, let me just make sure I get this
- 41:52all right. Yeah, no splash.
- 41:53Little bit of a splash. It's all right.
- 41:55Be OK. Splash napkins over here.
- 41:58OK, Yeah, now, now we're cooking.
- 42:00OK, let's start with I agree with a lot of your points and I
- 42:03want to get to some of them. Let me just start with something
- 42:05that's a little alarming. Let's get the bad news out of
- 42:07the way first. Let's do it.
- 42:08And a seal. Tufile, who Dino mentioned,
- 42:11writes for Forbes. She referenced this and kind of
- 42:13how it was going for France in the Euro qualifiers.
- 42:16Here's something alarming for you.
- 42:17Here are the goal scores for France in these six Euro
- 42:21qualifying matches. 3 by Marie Antoinette Katoto and then one
- 42:25by Caddy to DNE, Wendy Renar, Sakina Karshawi, Elise Dale
- 42:30Maida and won by Vicki Betcho who is a reserve and this
- 42:35Olympic squad. And that's the list.
- 42:37So 345678 goals and six matches shouldn't sound that bad, but
- 42:44when you have the players that France has, you might want
- 42:48something a little better and at worst, you might want a little
- 42:51better spread than that. Yeah.
- 42:53You don't like Ketoto as a center forward.
- 42:55I know her job is to score goals, but you got other players
- 42:58who can score on that team. Like, we don't have a single
- 43:01Cascarino goal yet. We got to get something figured
- 43:03out here. So with that in mind, I
- 43:06completely agree with your with your thought process on this
- 43:09kind of being the last shot. I know we live in an unjust
- 43:13world, but Wendy Renar and Eugenie Lisa Mare Never winning
- 43:17a major international tournament feels especially unjust.
- 43:22I will say that give the caveat, they won the 2017 She Believes
- 43:25Cup. That was a four team field.
- 43:27It was a banger of a four team field though.
- 43:29It was USA, Germany and England with France in there and that's
- 43:32a great achievement for France. I take nothing away from that.
- 43:35It's not the Olympics, it's not the EUR, it's not the World Cup.
- 43:38So I honestly think, and I know I drew, I drew the parallel when
- 43:42we were talking to a seal. I drew the parallel to the
- 43:45English men's national team, if you can believe it.
- 43:48They have to play on the front foot.
- 43:49They have to play attacking football with the players that
- 43:51they have. And that first match against
- 43:54Columbia's defense in the in the opener, I think you got to set
- 43:58the tone for the rest of the tournament there.
- 44:00And so I'm just going to be locked into that one.
- 44:02That's going to be a banger, a little bit of USW and T flavor
- 44:06also where the midfield, more specifically that the attacking
- 44:10midfield, a little bit of a gap there and then you probably find
- 44:14this team running up the sidelines, either Karshawi or
- 44:17Bosch on the other side. And that kind of leads me to
- 44:20maybe like Grace Galloro. Like could she be an X Factor?
- 44:23You know, we talked about like for the US, Lindsay Huron
- 44:25dropping back a little bit, which she kind of switched up
- 44:28against Costa Rica. So I think she was a little bit
- 44:29more forward. Could we see Grace Guerro play a
- 44:33little bit more forward? She's a big game, big moment
- 44:35kind of player, yes. So I think that could be
- 44:38somebody that you're like, hey, we just we just need this we we
- 44:40need more passes to connect. I agree with you, Katoto.
- 44:44She's a deadly finisher, but it sort of feels like 8090% of her
- 44:50of our finishes are are relatively straightforward.
- 44:53Great ball in great service. It's kind of like catching a lob
- 44:56in basketball. You jump up, you really tall,
- 44:58you catch it, then you slam it. So she's the ultimate lob
- 45:00catcher. A Seal talked about this too.
- 45:02No ML Manjri. So I think they're pretty locked
- 45:04in with who they have and how they want to play now.
- 45:07It's just could be a matter of was that the right setup.
- 45:10Now I want to get into some predictions here only because
- 45:14this French side in my bracket, I had them facing off against
- 45:19Japan and not beating Japan. I had Japan in the final versus
- 45:23Spain, France out in the semifinal.
- 45:26Where did you have? I'm sorry an apologies if you
- 45:29didn't do this but. So I did not fill out a regular
- 45:32bracket. Well, I mean, what you usually
- 45:34it's, it's one bracket where you go with your gut, one bracket
- 45:38where you do your research in one bracket where you do a wacky
- 45:42bracket because anything can happen in in tournament
- 45:44football. I did not fill out any of the
- 45:48three. I just kind of was going on like
- 45:50general ceiling. So in that scenario where you
- 45:54have France losing to Japan, does France win Group A?
- 45:59Yeah, France wins Group A, Yeah. And like, I think that's an
- 46:02important clarifier. Like when you actually look at
- 46:05how the bracket could shake out, almost every combination is in
- 46:09play because anybody could finish anywhere.
- 46:12So there's really not, this is not Wimbledon, where it's just
- 46:16like, right, you know, the bracket is the bracket.
- 46:17And you know, Venus is a place to read until the final.
- 46:21So really, this can go any, any number of ways.
- 46:23I just sort of like ranked my 4I slotted everybody in.
- 46:26I'll give you mine. Yeah, You know, if you're gonna
- 46:29make a pic sort of on the fly here.
- 46:30And apologies, I didn't do 3 brackets, I only did the wacky
- 46:32bracket. Yeah.
- 46:34OK. So in my semis I had Japan
- 46:37topping France and I had Spain topping Canada.
- 46:41OK. Because I had USA facing Spain
- 46:44in the first round and and I had Spain getting past them.
- 46:46Gotcha. So my 1:00 through 4:00 I've got
- 46:48Spain win the gold, Japan silver between France and Canada.
- 46:52I think you got to give the nod to France.
- 46:54So Canada makes a semifinal, but they end up with a fourth place
- 46:57finish. Very respectable.
- 46:58France takes home a medal, so not empty handed.
- 47:01And shout out to Samuel and the women's game because she did a
- 47:04great job talking about the pursuit of a medal and the
- 47:08Olympics being a different kind of tournament.
- 47:09She was like, all right, most tournament, I'm paraphrasing
- 47:11here, most tournaments are win or there's no alternative,
- 47:14right? In the Olympics, though, winning
- 47:16a medal, getting onto the podium and just taking home the
- 47:19hardware is different than other tournament.
- 47:21So shout out to Sam. We're kind of pointing that out.
- 47:24But yeah, that that's, that's my final four, how I saw it.
- 47:26OK. I think that makes sense.
- 47:28Spain, Canada, France and Japan as your as your final four which
- 47:33will lead to and I think in that scenario you're talking about
- 47:36France. Canada 3rd place bronze medal
- 47:40match should be a banger. I like the idea.
- 47:43France versus Canada for the bronze medal.
- 47:47Also Winner keeps Montreal. I love that.
- 47:52So, yeah, I mean, I could, I could definitely see that
- 47:54happening. And if France runs into Japan, I
- 47:57mean, a what a banger, what an incredible kind of style clash
- 48:02there. I could absolutely see Japan
- 48:05winning that match, but I'd give France a good chance.
- 48:07Just I mean with home field advantage.
- 48:09I feel like that would help. Yeah, for sure.
- 48:11Yeah. I just feel like Japan would
- 48:14pose so many problems for them and a lot of the same problems
- 48:17that Spain poses, only differently, right?
- 48:20A different, a different flavor of a really, really hard team to
- 48:23play. I don't know.
- 48:24How far have you thought with regard to who do you have
- 48:26winning, Who do you have possibly making the semis?
- 48:28And apologies if I'm putting you on the spot here.
- 48:29No, you're good. I mean, I, I would say I'm
- 48:32either a, Spain beats France in the final or Spain beats Japan
- 48:39in the final. I'm with you on that.
- 48:41And in, in terms of who can make it to the semis, obviously, I
- 48:44think USA is live. I think Australia is fairly live
- 48:49also depending on how the bracket shakes out.
- 48:52But my, my winner, I think it's Spain.
- 48:54I think every team is kind of chasing them.
- 48:56We are looking at the 1519 USA squad where you walk in, you are
- 49:03the stone cold favorite against everybody you play against.
- 49:07And people act like with that era of the USA squad, it was
- 49:11just 'cause they ran faster and they were more physical than
- 49:14every team. That's a little revisionists.
- 49:16I mean, Carly Lloyd, I have a lot of opinions about Carly
- 49:19Lloyd, but when she was your center midfielder and you had
- 49:21Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe and Tobin Heath, but then you
- 49:25also threw later in the mix Sam Lewis, the aforementioned Sam
- 49:28Lewis and Lindsay Horan. Yet a lot of players out there
- 49:32who were also smart and connected and playing a, a, an
- 49:36intelligent style of football too.
- 49:37So, and I just think that's where, where Spain is right now.
- 49:40I will not make the mistake of betting against Spain or
- 49:43Barcelona anymore. Sure.
- 49:46And that's what I say now until we get to the next Champions
- 49:49League final and I'm like, I don't know.
- 49:51Maybe it could be a couple weeks from now, or you might fall back
- 49:55in love with Japan and you know, who knows?
- 49:57That's fair. You might get a little wacky on
- 49:59your side as well. Damn, you're so right about
- 50:01that. Yeah, come on, man.
- 50:03I think. All right, man.
- 50:06So it looks like we both have Spain taking home the gold.
- 50:10The good news is the ball gets rolling this week.
- 50:13Thursday, the games kick off. Your boys will be back Thursday
- 50:17night. We're going to try to turn that
- 50:18one around ASAP. So make sure to keep it locked.
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- 50:23before we get out of here? I think that's it.
- 50:25I feel like I've sufficiently covered some of my bases by
- 50:28trying to just put like a sneaky flyer out on Australia, a sneaky
- 50:32flyer out on Brazil. I'm trying, you know, I'm trying
- 50:34to run the gamut here and protect.
- 50:37But yeah, man, I have almost forgotten that I like track and
- 50:41field and I like swimming and I like, I mean, Jesus Christ, we
- 50:46talk about basketball enough on this on this show.
- 50:49There's a men's and women's basketball tournament happening
- 50:51at the Olympics, too. I keep just thinking about the
- 50:54football, though. So, yeah, it's going to be hard
- 50:56to squeeze it all in. But yeah, the, the football's
- 50:58going to be so good. So I'm I'm happy to grind all
- 51:01that tape. Track and field too.
- 51:06Yeah, exactly. All right, man, I think we all
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