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The Kenny Report | 29 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Kenny Report. I'm Caroline Marcus filling in
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Speaker 3: for Chris. Coming up this evening, American actor Michael Rappaport
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Speaker 3: joins me to discuss a powerful documentary on the explosion
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Speaker 3: of anti Semitism since October seven. He also had some
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Speaker 3: strong words for Prime Minister Anthony Alberanesi.
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Albanzi, the representation from Canada from all over
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Speaker 2: the place that spoke about giving the state of Palestine
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Speaker 2: this week? Who are you to offer up a state
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Speaker 2: of Palestine? Dennis colonialism a pilot's alarming warning.
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Speaker 3: The construction of giant wind turbines may make it nearly
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Speaker 3: impossible to fight bushfires in regional New South Wales.
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Speaker 1: More on that later.
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Speaker 3: Who sexually abused his five year old daughter now in
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Speaker 3: a female prison after identifying as a woman. Sal Grover
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Speaker 3: will join me on this, but first, Anthony Alberzi has
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Speaker 3: squandered yet more taxpayer funds, this time on a vanity
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Speaker 3: trip to the UK where he attended a UK labor conference. There,
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Speaker 3: the International Guest of Honors sprooked his own electorate success
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Speaker 3: to a sycophantic audience and helped prop up their scandal
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Speaker 3: ridden prime minister, Sir Keir Starmer.
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Speaker 4: What I see here in UK Labor and that this man,
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Speaker 4: this leader, this prime minister, my friend, is the same
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Speaker 4: determination that I know lives in every member of the
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Speaker 4: Australian Labor Party.
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Speaker 3: And Anthony Alberisi had some point in comments for those
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Speaker 3: on the right.
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Speaker 4: Tearing things down is easy, but it doesn't leave you
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Speaker 4: with anything. The low politics of fear and resentment are easy,
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Speaker 4: but they only divide the country. They don't advance it.
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Speaker 3: Now that could have been as much a dig as
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Speaker 3: UK Labor figures agitating for a change to their own
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Speaker 3: leadership after a series of controversies have dogged Sakios Damer.
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Speaker 3: But honestly, what benefit is this to any Australian except
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Speaker 3: Albanizi himself and his overinflated ego. It's not the first
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Speaker 3: time Albo has supported a divisive UK Labor leader. Back
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Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, the then aspiring Australian Labor leader post
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Speaker 3: for a photo with controversial far left UK Opposition leader
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Speaker 3: Jeremy Corbyn. They'd reportedly met at least three times over
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Speaker 3: fourteen months. Yes, this was the same guy who referred
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Speaker 3: to members of terror groups Hamas and Hezballah as friends.
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Speaker 3: Opposition leader Susan Lee lashed the PM about today's speech,
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Speaker 3: accusing alban EASi of crossing a line.
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Speaker 1: In fact, he didn't just cross a line.
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Speaker 5: He flew to the other side of the world.
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Speaker 6: To give a partisan political speech on behalf of a
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Speaker 6: political party in another country.
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Speaker 1: That is totally unacceptable.
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Speaker 7: And Treasurer Jim Chalmers predictably defended him.
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Speaker 8: He made sure that he met with both sides of
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Speaker 8: politics while he was in the UK, and the Head
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Speaker 8: of State and the prime ministers of Canada and Spain.
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Speaker 8: I think any objective observer of that would conclude that
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Speaker 8: that was a pretty effective use of the Prime Minister's time.
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Speaker 3: But I'm sure most Australians would prefer alban Izzi to
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Speaker 3: focus his efforts on meeting US President and Donald Trump,
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Speaker 3: given the growing political differences between the pair and the
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Speaker 3: importance of resolving the tariffs issue as well as securing
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Speaker 3: a commitment to orcus Sure the pair may have very
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Speaker 3: briefly made and taken that awkward selfie on the sidelines
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Speaker 3: of the UN and now have that first meeting schedule
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Speaker 3: finally for next month, but that's only coming nine months
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Speaker 3: after Trump was reelected, and frankly, I have little confidence
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Speaker 3: Albo won't get blown off again. Albo's visit to the
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Speaker 3: UK comes days after his speech at the United Nations
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Speaker 3: in New York, where he proudly spoke of Australia's recognition
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Speaker 3: of Palestine. Contrast that speech with leaders from New Zealand
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Speaker 3: and Singapore who are sensible enough to realize such a
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Speaker 3: move is not just purely symbolic, it's an actual obstacle
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Speaker 3: to peace. New Zealand Prime Minister Christopher Luxon told New
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Speaker 3: Zealand Radio.
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Speaker 1: His country and could feel proud of.
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Speaker 3: The decision not to recognize the Palestinian state.
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Speaker 1: Is it a decision we can be proud of. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think we can be proud of it because we've
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Speaker 1: made our own independent decision, an assessment of it. We
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Speaker 1: cannot recognize the state where terrorists actually play a role
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Speaker 1: in its government.
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Speaker 3: And here's the Singapore Foreign Affairs Minister explaining why that
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Speaker 3: country won't recognize Palestine either.
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Speaker 9: We will recognize the state of Palestine when it has
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Speaker 9: an effective government that accepts Israel's right to exist and
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Speaker 9: categorically renounces terrorism.
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Speaker 1: It's not that hard, is it?
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Speaker 3: Albo Now to an important update to an exclusive investigation
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Speaker 3: I brought viewers earlier this year. Jewish Nicole was a
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Speaker 3: volunteer host with Sydney community broadcaster Radio skid Row, that
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Speaker 3: is until she was sacked by the station after refusing
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Speaker 3: to support hamas.
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Speaker 10: If I cannot support the October seventh attacks as resistance
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Speaker 10: that if I cannot support the hostages being kept, then
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Speaker 10: I on align with her values and I cannot be there.
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Speaker 3: Nicole had been hauled into a meeting with station management
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Speaker 3: after covering a picture of a Palestinian flag with a
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Speaker 3: music record late last year. Management told her she would
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Speaker 3: have to attend pro Palestinian rallies and actively support the
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Speaker 3: station's view Israel had no right to exist and that
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Speaker 3: Jews had no right to live there. When she cried
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Speaker 3: about her family's experience in the Holocaust and seeing anti
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Speaker 3: Semitism explode here in Australia, she was laughed at, then
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Speaker 3: mocked for her white women tears.
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Speaker 11: And when I started to cry because I was trying
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Speaker 11: to have a respectful conversation about agreeing to disagree and
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Speaker 11: respect each other's views even though I absolutely don't.
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Speaker 10: Support terrorism and aggression and murder.
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Speaker 11: They basically told me we don't appreciate your white women tears.
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Speaker 3: Radio skid Row is a heavily taxpayer funded broadcaster and
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Speaker 3: a registered charity that gets hundreds of thousands of dollars
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Speaker 3: in Commonwealth funding every year. I revealed in January the
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Speaker 3: Media regulator AKMA had begun an investigation into the station
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Speaker 3: following our reports. Today, AKMA released its findings that Radio
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Speaker 3: skid Row did breach the Broadcasting Act license conditions in
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Speaker 3: sacking Nicole. It found the station failed to follow so
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Speaker 3: its own disciplinary procedure when it dismissed the presenter without
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Speaker 3: giving the person clear reasons for the dismissal or offering
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Speaker 3: them a right of appeal. It also found Nicole's dismissal
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Speaker 3: contributed to a broader perception that there were barriers to
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Speaker 3: participation within the station based on political and cultural beliefs.
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Speaker 3: In other words, people who are anti terror groups may
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Speaker 3: not feel like they could participate. Worryingly, though, the regulator
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Speaker 3: did not find a problem with a show broadcast on
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Speaker 3: skid Row that was promoted by the station as being
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Speaker 3: called Red Inverted Triangle, which is of course a symbol
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Speaker 3: for Hama's military targets. There was no breach, AKMA said,
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Speaker 3: because the station changed the name of the show.
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Speaker 1: To Pulse of Palestine.
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Speaker 3: Its host, New Southworales government public servant Ahmed Abbadla, had
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Speaker 3: referred to Zionists online as sub humans, accusing them of
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Speaker 3: inventing cases of anti Semitism and equating Zionism with Nazism.
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Speaker 3: In its report, ACMA says it listened to four episodes
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Speaker 3: of the show and did not find any material that
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Speaker 3: may incite or encourage violence. That's despite one episode the
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Speaker 3: regulator listened to ending with mister Abadlas sprooking his personal
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Speaker 3: podcast called you Guessed It read Inverted Triangle, it said.
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Speaker 3: AKMA acknowledges that reference to the symbol may be distressing
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Speaker 3: for some listeners. However, in this contest context, the AKMA
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Speaker 3: considers that the reference in the broadcast does not appear
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Speaker 3: to incite or encourage violence as contemplated by the CODES.
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Speaker 3: As a result of these breaches, Radio skid Row has
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Speaker 3: implemented training for all its volunteers and members and committed
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Speaker 3: to providing updates to the Regulator on its progress, but
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Speaker 3: it's largely a slap on the wrist. Hopefully, though the
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Speaker 3: exposure of this ugly episode will deter other broadcasters from
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Speaker 3: such discrimination. Anti Israel bias is all over the media,
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Speaker 3: whether it's mainstream news, the public broadcaster, or community radio.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's blatant, like in the cases Radio skid Row
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Speaker 3: or outlets like The New York Times, which ran this
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Speaker 3: front page a couple of months ago about starvation in Gaza,
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Speaker 3: featuring a skeletal Palestinian child who had turned out actually
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Speaker 3: had a.
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Speaker 1: Serious medical condition.
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Speaker 3: The fact his mother and older brother looked well fed
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Speaker 3: in photos should have been a clear red flag. But
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Speaker 3: other times the media bias is more subtle, as perhaps
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Speaker 3: in this example from Line's Worldwide of Sports coverage of
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Speaker 3: the two hundred meter heat at the World's Athletics Championships
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Speaker 3: featuring our own rising star Goot Goot or Gout Gout
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Speaker 3: note the only athlete not mentioned by country or name
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Speaker 3: in this clip.
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Speaker 12: Gout gaus a first World Championships and a generous round
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Speaker 12: of applause. Brian Level from Jamaica nineteen sixty nine is
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Speaker 12: his overall best time silver medallist in the under twenties
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Speaker 12: twice in relays to remember from Zimbabwe in the center.
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Speaker 3: Lane, see how the commentator glossed right over the Israeli
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Speaker 3: sprinter blessing a free fer. A nine spokesman would not
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Speaker 3: provide a comment, but it is understood the commentator didn't
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Speaker 3: mean to miss.
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Speaker 1: The Israeli athlete.
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Speaker 3: He was still giving analysis on the Jamaican runner before
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Speaker 3: the camera panned to the next athlete. Way, whatever happened there,
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Speaker 3: it's not a good look. And I'll be speaking more
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Speaker 3: about the Radio skid Rows story with my panel later
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Speaker 3: in the show. Now to a story that is disturbing
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Speaker 3: on so many levels. The Australian reports a pedophile father
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Speaker 3: who sexually abused his own five year old daughter is
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Speaker 3: being held in a Victorian women's prison because he now
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Speaker 3: identifies as a woman. But despite please from women's groups,
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Speaker 3: Premier just Into Alan is ignoring requests to have the
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Speaker 3: inmate moved. Women's Forum Australia Chief executive Rachel Wong wrote
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Speaker 3: to the Premier, calling the move a grave injustice to
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Speaker 3: the vulnerable women in prison there, many of whom carry
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Speaker 3: histories of sexual abuse and trauma. Joining me now is
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Speaker 3: Giggle for Girls. Founder and women's rights advocates Sal Grover,
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Speaker 3: so thank you for coming on. You share Rachel Wong's
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Speaker 3: concerns here about having a prisoner like this in a
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Speaker 3: women's jail.
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. And yes, Rachel
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Speaker 5: is one hundred percent correct like her. I've been emailing
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Speaker 5: just into Alan, the Victorian Premier.
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Speaker 13: I've contacted the Minister.
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Speaker 5: For Corrections, the Victorian Equal Opportunity in Human Rights Commission.
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Speaker 5: No one has responded to anybody. So it's quite amazing
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Speaker 5: how they ignore the concerns from women and women's rights groups.
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Speaker 5: But the moment a man claims to be a woman,
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Speaker 5: they have no problem listening.
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Speaker 13: To that, do they.
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Speaker 5: But this is where the gender identity in our legal
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Speaker 5: system ends up.
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Speaker 13: This is a culmination of all of.
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Speaker 5: The policies of gender identity that both politicians and institutions
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Speaker 5: have been pushing on Australians for years, starting with be kind.
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Speaker 5: It ends up with male pedophiles in female prisons. And
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Speaker 5: you know, it's not just that he years in a
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Speaker 5: woman's prison.
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Speaker 13: It is also that his.
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Speaker 5: Identity of woman was used in his defense to get
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Speaker 5: a lighter sentence and it worked. So the trickle down
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Speaker 5: of this to other male criminals in our society. Knowing
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Speaker 5: that they can use this as an excuse and then
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Speaker 5: get a reward of going to a woman's prison is chilling.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned the sentence. He only got a minimum of
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Speaker 3: two and a half years. With time already served, he'll
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Speaker 3: probably be eligible for parole a lot sooner than that.
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Speaker 3: It seems manifestly inadequate for this type of crime. But
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Speaker 3: having written to the Premier and others yourself, what do
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Speaker 3: you make of her refusal to even make a comment
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Speaker 3: on this case.
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Speaker 5: Well, I think actually seeing nothing is seeing everything. I
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Speaker 5: think that if you had a normal human reaction to this,
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Speaker 5: you would respond to it and say, of course something
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Speaker 5: needs to be done. It can't possibly be that a
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Speaker 5: male pedophile, especially one of that is the surrendous, can
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Speaker 5: be put into a woman's prison.
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Speaker 13: Or it can even have the right to call himself
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Speaker 13: a woman.
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Speaker 5: It's it's so offensive on so many levels, but it's
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Speaker 5: also dangerous, and as I said, the impact that it
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Speaker 5: has on society as a whole is far greater than
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Speaker 5: the measly two and a half years he's going to.
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Speaker 13: Serve in prison.
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Speaker 5: I think that just inter Allen has to not just
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Speaker 5: make a statement about it, but actually has to do something.
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Speaker 13: It's not acceptable to say that they can't do anything.
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Speaker 5: They amended these laws to be able to put these
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Speaker 5: guys in female spaces and to have them recognized as
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Speaker 5: women under the law.
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Speaker 13: Effectively proving that laws can be changed.
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Speaker 5: It's always important to remember that laws can be changed,
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Speaker 5: sex never can be And so this is I think
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Speaker 5: where Australians have to understand that this ideology that that's
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Speaker 5: been pushed on all of us for such a long
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Speaker 5: time is coming to sort of the apex and the
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Speaker 5: worst case scenarios are becoming a reality, and either we
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Speaker 5: fix this or we go into a really really dark place.
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Speaker 5: It's been fixing places like America and the UK. Extremely
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Speaker 5: is proving he doesn't get better here, like it's time
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Speaker 5: to fix it.
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Speaker 1: Well, even in New South Wales.
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Speaker 3: You and I previously spoke about another case of a
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Speaker 3: double murderer not that long ago, Terry Mark Donneye, whose
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Speaker 3: requested transfer to a women's prison was denied. So it
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Speaker 3: can happen, but clearly not in Victoria just yet. I
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Speaker 3: wanted to ask you about Green's co founder Drew Hutton.
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Speaker 3: He's reportedly been suspended by a crowdfunding platform called chuff
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Speaker 3: dot org. He was using that to raise money for
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Speaker 3: his legal action against the Queensland Greens.
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Speaker 7: But while the crowdfunding site wouldn't respond to questions from The.
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Speaker 3: Australian, mister Hutton suspects transgender rights activists behind the suspension here.
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Speaker 3: So mister Hutton was expelled from the party he helped
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Speaker 3: to create, allegedly for disagreeing with this race of transgender
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Speaker 3: rights from the Greens. What do you make now about
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Speaker 3: this apparent cancelation on this site.
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Speaker 5: Well, I actually have no doubt that his suspicions are
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Speaker 5: correct because they happened to me too. I had to
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Speaker 5: had to raise millions of dollars to fight for my
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Speaker 5: own rights in court, and we were kicked off two
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Speaker 5: different payment processing platforms due to activist complaints and ended
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Speaker 5: up having to one create our own and to go
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Speaker 5: with a company the one company the world gives and
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Speaker 5: Goo that actually won't listen to them. But I mean,
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Speaker 5: this is the power that activists, these activists have and
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Speaker 5: they've managed to capture both of all that institutions and
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Speaker 5: a lot of our media sky News actually fortunately being
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Speaker 5: the one that they haven't and the government, and so
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Speaker 5: the cases like Drew's like Carly Smith is another woman
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Speaker 5: who's fighting this, Louise Elliott and Tasmania myself. These pushbacks
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Speaker 5: to try and get not only just back to normal,
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Speaker 5: but making it clear that people can have different opinions
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Speaker 5: and people can say the truth, and that we can
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Speaker 5: challenge this dogma is really really important.
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Speaker 3: It is tough, Soal Grover, thank you so much for
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Speaker 3: your time tonight. Appreciate your import As we get closer
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Speaker 3: now to bush fire season, and experienced pilot has raised
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Speaker 3: serious concerns about plans to build hundreds of wind turbines
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Speaker 3: and transmission lines in the New South Wales region of Yas.
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Speaker 3: The pilot, who has been engaged by the Rural Fire Service,
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Speaker 3: asked not to be named, but told The Daily Telegraph
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Speaker 3: the projects would make it nearly impossible to fight fires
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Speaker 3: from the air. He went on to say, if there
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Speaker 3: are obstacles which hinder the efforts of aircrew, we are
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Speaker 3: not going to take extra risk. Joining me now is
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Speaker 3: the Environment editor at The Australian, Graham Lloyd Graham.
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Speaker 1: It's great to see you.
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Speaker 3: I've heard this concern myself from farmers that I've interviewed
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Speaker 3: about the renewables rollout.
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Speaker 1: This does seem to be shaping.
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Speaker 3: Up as a genuine issue and risk in areas prone
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Speaker 3: to bushfires.
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Speaker 14: That's right, Hi, Carolina. It's certainly an issue that has
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Speaker 14: been raised over a long period of time, and like
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Speaker 14: everything with this roll out, it's a sort of question
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Speaker 14: of sucker and sea because they're being put out now
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Speaker 14: at a scale where if there are going to be issues,
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Speaker 14: they are going to becoming apparent fairly quickly and soon.
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Speaker 14: There's obviously regulations about how you can operate aeroplanes in
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Speaker 14: the vicinity of what are extremely large industrial objects out
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Speaker 14: on the landscape, and of course they have themselves been
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Speaker 14: prone to cause fires, burst into flames, throw flames off
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Speaker 14: a great distance from the wind towers, and if this
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Speaker 14: takes hold in a dry area, it's not possible to
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Speaker 14: get fire fighting planes and machinery into place. You have
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Speaker 14: all the conditions for a very significant problem, and it's
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Speaker 14: not confined, of course, to wind turbine, says. Equal concerns
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Speaker 14: have been raised about the capacity for transmission lines to
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Speaker 14: arc and cause bushfires it areas, which is something that
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Speaker 14: is known to happen, and we're now going out of
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Speaker 14: our way to put them all through state forests and
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Speaker 14: national parks. So there could be a very very serious
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Speaker 14: issue when bushfire season comes upon us.
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Speaker 3: And the irony is that these wind turbines supposed to
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Speaker 3: be helping the environment supposedly could be contributed contributing huge
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Speaker 3: environmental damage in that process.
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you.
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Speaker 3: About Human Rights Commissioner Lauren Finlay. She's defending the Commission's
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Speaker 3: push to crack down on so called climate misinformation.
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Speaker 1: Now it comes after the body.
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Speaker 3: Received backlash last week as it to the Climate Committee,
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Speaker 3: regulation is necessary to stop the spread of misinformation related
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Speaker 3: to climate change. Miss Finley writes in The Australian that
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Speaker 3: false claims have real world consequences, but we're not suggesting
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Speaker 3: that different or contested views on climate policy should be outlawed.
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Speaker 1: Graham, what do you make of this?
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Speaker 3: Should we be concerned about climate censorship?
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Speaker 14: I think we should always be concerned when bureaucrats decide
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Speaker 14: that they should have the power to say what is
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Speaker 14: disinformation and what's real information. Of course, there's a lot
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Speaker 14: of public mischief to be had in misleading people, but
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Speaker 14: there's also a great strength in having open conversations and
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Speaker 14: debates about all things. And I think on this issue.
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Speaker 14: A measure is Chris Bowen speaking at the United Nations
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Speaker 14: last week. He's saying climate denihalism takes lots of new forms.
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Speaker 14: One of them is saying that it's a very difficult
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Speaker 14: thing to achieve, and the other is to say that
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Speaker 14: it's going to cost a lot of money. Well, god
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Speaker 14: forbid that they be classified as misinformation, and suddenly we're
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Speaker 14: not allowed to talk about anything.
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Speaker 3: That would be extraordinary censorship, wouldn't it. Graham Lloyd, thank
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Speaker 3: you so much for your time. Coming up after the break,
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Speaker 3: one of the few Hollywood celebrities courageous enough to speak
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Speaker 3: out on the explosion in anti semitism joins us, and
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Speaker 3: he has a few choice words for Anthony Albanizi Well
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Speaker 3: us actin comedian Michael Rappaport is a familiar face in
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Speaker 3: television and film since the October seven attacks on Israel.
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Speaker 3: He's also been an outspoken advocate against anti Semitism. He's
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Speaker 3: one of the few Hollywood celebrities courageous enough to speak
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Speaker 3: out against the explosion in anti Semitic attacks, including in
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Speaker 3: a new documentary called October eight coming to Sky News
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Speaker 3: next week.
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Speaker 2: The Hostages Must Come Home free, every single one of them.
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Speaker 15: I spoke at the rally in Washington, DC, and I
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Speaker 15: was so humbly appreciative with the response of the way
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Speaker 15: I spoke, and I appreciate you guys, Thank you. I
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Speaker 15: know where I am on the pecking order.
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Speaker 16: There's so many other bigger names, bigger celebrities. I have
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Speaker 16: never felt the fact that I, Michael rap Report was
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Speaker 16: the big Hollywood name autside from the Great Deborah Messing
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Speaker 16: is some real disappointing.
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Speaker 7: I spoke to Michael rap Report earlier and I began
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Speaker 7: by asking if he was personally shocked to see the
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Speaker 7: anti Semitism that erupted in the US following the October
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Speaker 7: seven attack.
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Speaker 2: I was very shocked. I was very surprised. I was
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Speaker 2: very hurt by the immediate anti semitism in the United States,
24:12
Speaker 2: specifically in New York, and not just the anti semitism.
24:15
Speaker 1: The celebration and elation.
24:18
Speaker 2: While the bodies and the massacre were still being sorted
24:22
Speaker 2: out really really surprised me. I don't think anybody would
24:26
Speaker 2: have ever predicted that while Israel was under attack and
24:30
Speaker 2: while we were still sorting out what happened to who
24:33
Speaker 2: and who was kidnapped, and who was harmed that people
24:37
Speaker 2: would be celebrating, celebrating in the streets, specifically in my
24:41
Speaker 2: home city of New York.
24:44
Speaker 3: It was very similar in Australia. You would have seen
24:47
Speaker 3: some of the scenes we had here too, especially at
24:49
Speaker 3: the opera house, the riots, the calls for where's the
24:52
Speaker 3: Jews or gas the Jews or whatever it was.
24:55
Speaker 1: It was shocking.
24:57
Speaker 7: I saw it.
24:58
Speaker 2: People's behavior in your country, people's behavior all over my
25:02
Speaker 2: country was similar to the behavior of the innocent civilians
25:07
Speaker 2: of Gaza celebrating. And it wasn't just a celebrated it
25:12
Speaker 2: was like an orgasmic elation, which I don't understand.
25:17
Speaker 1: That was shocking to those scenes.
25:19
Speaker 3: You've spoken in the documentary and on your social media
25:23
Speaker 3: about the celebrities, the Hollywood celebrities who've spoken out about
25:27
Speaker 3: every social justice cause but were silent on anti Semitism.
25:31
Speaker 3: Here's how you described that in one of your videos.
25:35
Speaker 17: I put a black square up here like a pac
25:38
Speaker 17: during Black Lives Matter. Don't you feel like an apple
25:41
Speaker 17: now for putting up a black square during Black Lives Matter?
25:45
Speaker 17: When newbody is coming and saying anything on our behalf.
25:51
Speaker 3: Why do you think those celebrities have been so silent
25:54
Speaker 3: on this issue.
25:56
Speaker 2: I think a lot of artists have and silent because
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Speaker 2: number one, they're uninformed. Number two, they're going with the
26:06
Speaker 2: trend and the the popular crowd. And number three, they
26:10
Speaker 2: have disdain and disregard and disrespect for Jews in Israel,
26:16
Speaker 2: and it came to the surface like no other time
26:21
Speaker 2: in modern history.
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Speaker 1: It's been.
26:26
Speaker 2: Surprising, to say the least, from the artistic community, From
26:30
Speaker 2: you know, my community, it's been disappointing, and to be
26:35
Speaker 2: totally honest, it's been hurtful. It's been very, very hurtful because,
26:38
Speaker 2: like you said, artists traditionally, whether it was the Beatles,
26:42
Speaker 2: whether it was Marlon Branda with the Oscars, whether it's
26:45
Speaker 2: every musician, every actor under the sun, have always spoken
26:49
Speaker 2: out again about about atrocities. And you know, it's one
26:54
Speaker 2: thing to say free Gaza, cool, but to not even
26:59
Speaker 2: acknowledge that to this day there are hostages being held
27:03
Speaker 2: and we're heading into two years, two years of hostages
27:07
Speaker 2: being held, some who of whom are American citizens. To
27:10
Speaker 2: not even acknowledge that, to excuse it and to rationalize
27:14
Speaker 2: it is very, very, very disappointing.
27:20
Speaker 3: We've seen a number of speeches at the United Nations meeting,
27:24
Speaker 3: including from our own Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi, as well
27:27
Speaker 3: as a number of other countries which are now recognizing Palestine.
27:32
Speaker 3: What would you say to leaders like ours about taking
27:35
Speaker 3: that step.
27:36
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Albanizi, the representation from Canada, from all over
27:42
Speaker 2: the place that spoke about giving the state of Palestine
27:48
Speaker 2: this week, who are you to offer up a state
27:52
Speaker 2: of Palestine? Dennis colonialism? Also, the u N is a joke.
27:58
Speaker 2: The en is a jo, it's a performing arts center.
28:02
Speaker 2: It's like a boys club. It's like a soho house
28:05
Speaker 2: that people pay fees for. It's a traffic jam in
28:09
Speaker 2: my city, New York City. And you can say Palestine
28:14
Speaker 2: is this, and you could say Palestine is that, And
28:16
Speaker 2: I could say that I am the starting center of
28:19
Speaker 2: the New York Knicks. You could recognize Palestine as a
28:23
Speaker 2: state all you want. It's performance art. Who's running the place? Hamas,
28:28
Speaker 2: what are the borders? Who's the governing body? So it's
28:32
Speaker 2: it's it's smoking mirrors, and it's it's crazy that it's
28:37
Speaker 2: playing out this way. But shame shame on all them
28:40
Speaker 2: that showed up. Shame on Prime Minister Albany c and
28:44
Speaker 2: and everyone else that followed suit when they know, when
28:46
Speaker 2: they know that Palestine will never be a state ever, ever,
28:50
Speaker 2: ever be a state until Hamas is completely gone. And
28:54
Speaker 2: then you could start talking about a state and and
28:57
Speaker 2: borders and all that stuff. But the problem uh started
29:00
Speaker 2: with Hamas and the problem will end with Hamas. So
29:04
Speaker 2: it's all smok a mirrors in performance art. So many
29:06
Speaker 2: of those Prime Minister, you're Prime Minister the Canada, mccron,
29:10
Speaker 2: did you get into my business? These are great actors,
29:14
Speaker 2: These are fantastic performers. They need to get him too
29:17
Speaker 2: my business. There's Academy awards on the table for them.
29:21
Speaker 3: It's so true, although I don't know if Anthony Albanizi
29:24
Speaker 3: has a face for television and film. Michael, You've had
29:28
Speaker 3: shows yourself canceled, You've been the subject of boycott campaigns,
29:32
Speaker 3: You've had shows protested, You're on.
29:35
Speaker 1: Tour at the moment.
29:36
Speaker 3: How hard is it being a proudly Zionist pro Israel
29:39
Speaker 3: performer right now?
29:43
Speaker 2: You know, there's ebbs and flows. You know, I just
29:45
Speaker 2: had a bunch of sold out shows in New Jersey,
29:48
Speaker 2: and I'm doing shows all over the country, and I
29:51
Speaker 2: expect those shows to go over without a hitch. You know,
29:55
Speaker 2: people like to make threats and phone calls and all
29:58
Speaker 2: that stuff. A lot of it doesn't manifest it self. Again,
30:01
Speaker 2: it's a lot of smoking mirrors. I stand by Jewish people.
30:07
Speaker 2: I stand by the sovereignty of Israel. I have nothing
30:09
Speaker 2: to apologize or explain myself for. And you know I'm ready,
30:15
Speaker 2: willing and able to deal with. You know, whatever the
30:19
Speaker 2: ramifications are. You you could come to the show and
30:23
Speaker 2: and and screaming yell uh. The the the the actual
30:27
Speaker 2: show inside it have always been great and fun and
30:30
Speaker 2: loving and you know people leave with a smile on
30:33
Speaker 2: their face.
30:34
Speaker 3: You'll have to bring it to Australia sometime. Thank you,
30:37
Speaker 3: Michael Rapper, Paul. We're looking forward to showing viewers the documentary.
30:42
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to everybody seeing October eight,
30:45
Speaker 2: and now more than ever, people should just give it
30:48
Speaker 2: a chance and watch it and learn about some of
30:52
Speaker 2: the some of the facts that have happened and how
30:55
Speaker 2: we got here. I'm proud of the film.
30:57
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You should be.
31:01
Speaker 3: And the October eight documentary will air on Sky News
31:05
Speaker 3: on when else October eighth at seven point thirty pm.
31:10
Speaker 3: After the break, the Opposition leader lashes Albanizi's UK Labor speech,
31:15
Speaker 3: slamming it as crossing a line plus beers.
31:19
Speaker 1: At number ten.
31:21
Speaker 3: PM steps into Downing Street with Ossie Lager and tow
31:25
Speaker 3: We head to London with Sophie Elsworth next.
31:32
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
31:32
Speaker 3: Let's cross to the UK now, where our Prime Minister
31:36
Speaker 3: has addressed the British Labor Party's annual conference. He was
31:40
Speaker 3: very eager to draw parallels between UK liber A Labor
31:44
Speaker 3: and his own party.
31:46
Speaker 4: But what I see here in UK Labor and that
31:50
Speaker 4: this man, this leader, this Prime Minister, my friend, is
31:54
Speaker 4: the same determination that I know lives in every member
32:00
Speaker 4: of the Australian Labor Party, an absolute resolve to stand
32:05
Speaker 4: together and defend democracy itself.
32:10
Speaker 3: Joining Minawa's News Corp Europe correspondent and Sky and his
32:14
Speaker 3: contributor Sophie Ellsworth. Sophie, great to see you again. What
32:18
Speaker 3: did you make of this address from the Prime minister.
32:23
Speaker 18: They're great to speak to you, Caroline.
32:25
Speaker 2: Look.
32:26
Speaker 18: Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi flew from London to Liverpool yesterday
32:30
Speaker 18: to address the first day of the Labor conference here
32:33
Speaker 18: in the UK, and he gave this speech about the
32:36
Speaker 18: importance of democracy and also the importance of seeking not
32:41
Speaker 18: to divide. He spoke fondly of Sakia Stamer, and he
32:45
Speaker 18: also spoke of his success that he had at the
32:48
Speaker 18: last Labor election, at the last election in Australia that
32:52
Speaker 18: the Labor Party had and of course Caroline, he was
32:55
Speaker 18: speaking to British Labor voters who received this speech, that
32:59
Speaker 18: they were thrilled to receive this speech and they gave
33:01
Speaker 18: him a standing ovation because obviously it was in a
33:05
Speaker 18: crowd of supporters of Sakia Stamer, and also in the
33:09
Speaker 18: crowd was former Prime Minister Julia Gillard.
33:14
Speaker 3: Well Albani Albanizi also had an audience with Royalty King
33:20
Speaker 3: Charles during his visit, and shortly after the meeting he
33:23
Speaker 3: told News Corp He's confident that senior members of the
33:27
Speaker 3: royal family will soon be heading here to Australia.
33:30
Speaker 1: What more can you tell us?
33:33
Speaker 18: He did indeed, Caroline, So on Saturday we traveled up
33:37
Speaker 18: to Scotland in Aberdeenshire and he visited King Charles the
33:41
Speaker 18: Third in a closed meeting. No media was present, but afterwards,
33:46
Speaker 18: mister Albanize he did speak to the media and he
33:49
Speaker 18: told news Corp that he expects a visit very soon
33:53
Speaker 18: from the Prince and Princess of Wales. Now, he didn't
33:56
Speaker 18: give away any details Caroline when that will be, but
33:59
Speaker 18: we know we just had the King and the Queen
34:02
Speaker 18: in Australia in October last year. So he's very hopeful
34:05
Speaker 18: that he will have a visit soon from Princess Catherine
34:09
Speaker 18: and Prince William, which I'm sure will be extremely welcomed
34:12
Speaker 18: by the Australian public.
34:14
Speaker 7: No doubt those two are probably the most popular royals
34:18
Speaker 7: right now. Suddenly would go down maybe better than Harry
34:21
Speaker 7: and Meghan's visit after There are accounts of that visit later,
34:25
Speaker 7: Meghan's saying a lot of the problems starting then. Albanizy
34:29
Speaker 7: also made a visit to Number ten Downing Street and
34:32
Speaker 7: he brought along some very unique beers, a fact that
34:35
Speaker 7: Sir Kiirs Darma pointed out during the party conference.
34:39
Speaker 8: Albo came armed with cans of Albo beer.
34:43
Speaker 7: I kid you not, well, it doesn't seem like Sis
34:47
Speaker 7: Darmer has his own kind brand of beer or former
34:51
Speaker 7: beer that someone's made in tribute to him. How do
34:53
Speaker 7: you think this whole visit has worked out for Albaniasi.
34:58
Speaker 18: Look it's been quite a positive, is it for him? Caroline?
35:01
Speaker 18: He sent three days in the UK. He departed yesterday
35:04
Speaker 18: Sunday afternoon local time.
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Speaker 1: He did meet with.
35:08
Speaker 18: A Sakia starmer at ten Downing Street, several other government
35:12
Speaker 18: ministers and look it was I would regard it as
35:15
Speaker 18: a pretty successful meeting with him because he got time
35:18
Speaker 18: one on one with King Charles. However, he has drawn
35:22
Speaker 18: criticism from the Coalition who said he shouldn't be using
35:25
Speaker 18: taxpayer funds to attend a labor conference, which is exactly
35:30
Speaker 18: what he did.
35:31
Speaker 1: On Sunday.
35:32
Speaker 18: His jet, government funded jet flew to Liverpool and that's
35:36
Speaker 18: where he gave that address in front of the labor conference.
35:40
Speaker 3: Yeah. I gave him a serve about that too, Sophia
35:42
Speaker 3: at the top of the show. I'm really not sure
35:44
Speaker 3: who that benefits other than himself. Anyway, Thank you so
35:47
Speaker 3: much for your time and joy what looks like a beautiful.
35:49
Speaker 1: Day there in London.
35:51
Speaker 3: After the break of the New Zealand PM says Key
35:54
Speaker 3: we should be proud that country isn't recognizing Palestinian statehood.
35:59
Speaker 3: Plus much for elbows beloved Medicare. Car gp bulk billing
36:04
Speaker 3: rates are in free fall the latest doctor survey results. Next,
36:13
Speaker 3: welcome back. Let's bring in the panel now, GT Communications,
36:17
Speaker 3: Gemma Tonini and Sky News contributor Caroline de Russo. Welcome ladies, Hello, Hello,
36:23
Speaker 3: great to see you to be here. Well, first, let's
36:26
Speaker 3: head across the ditch where sanamines appear to prevail. The
36:31
Speaker 3: Prime Minister of New Zealand has said his country can
36:34
Speaker 3: be proud of their call to not recognize Palestinian statehood,
36:39
Speaker 3: and their foreign ministers said that there is no fully
36:42
Speaker 3: legitimate and Bible state of Palestine to recognize at the
36:46
Speaker 3: United Nations General Assembly GEMMA, as they spoke about at
36:50
Speaker 3: the top of the show. Singapore has also rejected recognizing Palestine. Now,
36:55
Speaker 3: I mean these countries are setting an example as to how.
36:59
Speaker 6: You can and this is leadership and it's not ideology
37:03
Speaker 6: and it actually means something to say not now, what
37:06
Speaker 6: are they actually recognizing? And I made this point weeks
37:09
Speaker 6: ago with Chris on the same program in terms of
37:13
Speaker 6: what our government has done has aligned with a corrupt
37:16
Speaker 6: administration that has no rule of law, that cannot exist.
37:20
Speaker 6: The irony, this is the irony, is that the Palestinian
37:23
Speaker 6: authority cannot exist outside of the context of Israeli government support.
37:28
Speaker 6: If you know the first thing about Middle East, that
37:30
Speaker 6: region of the Middle East, that's the absolute truth. If
37:33
Speaker 6: the Israeli government withdrew its security support for the PA,
37:37
Speaker 6: the whole place would burn down in a heartbeat. I
37:39
Speaker 6: used that metaphorically obviously.
37:41
Speaker 3: And that's part of the reason why they haven't been electionized.
37:43
Speaker 6: Because they can't guarantee that Hamas would not be elected.
37:48
Speaker 2: More broadly, and.
37:50
Speaker 6: There is no structure, there's no If you want me
37:52
Speaker 6: to start about what it's like for a woman under
37:54
Speaker 6: Palestinian authority or worse under Hamas, there's no agency for
37:58
Speaker 6: women minorities.
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Speaker 1: Our government has really.
38:02
Speaker 6: Exposed the depth of its capture by this particular ideology.
38:07
Speaker 6: You don't have to be a fan of the State
38:08
Speaker 6: of Israel to look at that situation and go there
38:11
Speaker 6: is nothing to recognize here. It is a great, great
38:15
Speaker 6: shame to our country and a great embarrassment to the
38:18
Speaker 6: Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister Karra.
38:21
Speaker 7: Not only is the recognition a purely symbolic move, it
38:25
Speaker 7: would say, and not really recognizing any definitive state, as
38:29
Speaker 7: Jemma points out, but I see it as quite harmful
38:32
Speaker 7: as an obstacle to peace. You know, Donald Trump said
38:35
Speaker 7: they might be close to a.
38:36
Speaker 3: Deal, but one of the Hamas leaders said in an
38:39
Speaker 3: interview with CNN that he views that these countries recognition
38:44
Speaker 3: as a validation.
38:46
Speaker 1: It's a reward for October seven.
38:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, of course, and that there is that there is
38:53
Speaker 7: pretty obvious, and particularly you know, I mean the idea
38:57
Speaker 7: of even recognitions by country, and Australia is an example
39:01
Speaker 7: that is very heavily caveatated. All the caveated parts kind
39:05
Speaker 7: of get pushed to one side. No one actually thinks
39:08
Speaker 7: about the practical side. The UK is their wording around
39:13
Speaker 7: their recognition is a particularly unhelpful example, where they essentially say, well, well,
39:18
Speaker 7: this is really in Israel's court and Israel can't deny
39:22
Speaker 7: some sort of peace plan. So it essentially gives Hamas
39:27
Speaker 7: free reiin to play out because the more they play up,
39:31
Speaker 7: you know, the more likely and more quickly or the
39:33
Speaker 7: more support they're going to get from from the UK government.
39:36
Speaker 7: So it actually it actually doesn't help when you look
39:41
Speaker 7: at you know, many countries around the world they support
39:43
Speaker 7: the idea of a two states solution, but on the
39:46
Speaker 7: basis that there is broader peace.
39:49
Speaker 1: In the region. Gem has already made the point.
39:52
Speaker 7: Unless there is, you know, a clear, definitive state to recognize, you.
39:57
Speaker 1: Know, it's fanciful. It's a fairy tale.
39:59
Speaker 7: You might as well recognized a tooth fairy. I wrote
40:01
Speaker 7: about this last week. It helps no one. It puts
40:04
Speaker 7: the whole thing back.
40:05
Speaker 6: But then the conversation shouldn't even be happening while hostages
40:08
Speaker 6: are still being taken Like this is this horrible two
40:11
Speaker 6: speed set of morality, whereby we know that weaponizing a hospital,
40:17
Speaker 6: for example, is a war crime. We know that weaponizing
40:19
Speaker 6: a school is a war crime. We know that taking
40:21
Speaker 6: hostages is a war crime. Nobody's talking about those things.
40:25
Speaker 6: As long as those hostages and that the bodies of
40:28
Speaker 6: the hostage is murdered are still being kept and held
40:31
Speaker 6: as collateral by Hamas, there should be no conversation. It's
40:36
Speaker 6: like the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister and the cohort
40:38
Speaker 6: who have gone along with them are the kind of
40:40
Speaker 6: people who pick their kid up from the lock up
40:42
Speaker 6: after the kid's been done for drunk driving and you know,
40:45
Speaker 6: criminal damage, and they reward them with a trip to Europe.
40:48
Speaker 6: It's absolutely unthinkable. And I also say this, think about.
40:52
Speaker 1: In the Australian context.
40:53
Speaker 6: In the Australian context, what would our government do. And
40:57
Speaker 6: the thing that I think is particularly agree just in
41:00
Speaker 6: this situation is that our government on the other side
41:04
Speaker 6: of the world, who's never had to deal with a
41:06
Speaker 6: single conflict, let alone a conflict on five or more
41:09
Speaker 6: fronts on their borders by people ideologically committed to wiping
41:14
Speaker 6: you out simply because of your faith and ethnicity. Our
41:17
Speaker 6: government has never had to deal with anything even closely
41:22
Speaker 6: resembling that.
41:23
Speaker 1: And it has the.
41:24
Speaker 6: Audacity, the audacity to lecture the Netanyahu government and you
41:28
Speaker 6: don't have to like baby, you don't have to like
41:31
Speaker 6: what's going on there, but the audacity to pretend that
41:34
Speaker 6: you would even have the skills to know the first
41:37
Speaker 6: thing to do.
41:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's like, as many people have pointed out,
41:41
Speaker 3: rockets being fired into me from Melbourne and then.
41:45
Speaker 6: That situation, I've been in them.
41:47
Speaker 3: Shelter exactly, and you see how scary it is.
41:50
Speaker 1: Let's move to this story.
41:51
Speaker 3: I gave an update to my exclusive investigation at the
41:55
Speaker 3: top of the show into Radio skid Row, which has
41:58
Speaker 3: now been found to have breach the community Broadcasting Act
42:02
Speaker 3: by the regulator AKMA. Their investigation determined the station failed
42:07
Speaker 3: to follow its own disciplinary procedure when it dismissed a
42:11
Speaker 3: presenter without giving the clear reason.
42:14
Speaker 1: To her for the dismissal or offering a rite of appeal.
42:18
Speaker 3: Now, Jemmy, this was of course about a Jewish host
42:21
Speaker 3: sacked for refusing to support Hamas. Do you think these changes,
42:25
Speaker 3: these findings though, will change things in the media landscape.
42:29
Speaker 1: For i't type of anti Israel bias that's so prevalent.
42:32
Speaker 6: They don't know if this individual one in isolation will
42:37
Speaker 6: but as the start of a scenario or an environment
42:42
Speaker 6: in which people are pushing back and should push back,
42:45
Speaker 6: name me one minority group. And for those watching, and
42:49
Speaker 6: you don't realize Australian's us are very much a minority,
42:53
Speaker 6: name me one minority group that has to go through this.
42:57
Speaker 6: Like if this station said to me, Jemmy, you're a Christian,
43:00
Speaker 6: you can't work here anymore, it's laughable because it doesn't happen.
43:03
Speaker 6: It would never happen, namely one other minority group that
43:07
Speaker 6: has to.
43:07
Speaker 13: Go through this garbage.
43:08
Speaker 1: So in isolation, will it change it?
43:10
Speaker 13: No?
43:11
Speaker 6: I don't think it will. But I am very heartened
43:14
Speaker 6: to see members of the Jewish community and their allies
43:17
Speaker 6: pushing back and doing what is available to them legally.
43:23
Speaker 1: Yeah.
43:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least there is some positive result there in
43:26
Speaker 3: terms of that station having to make some changes to
43:30
Speaker 3: how it operates. Meanwhile, how is this for absolutely ridiculous?
43:34
Speaker 3: You know that long spruked housing fund to alban Easy
43:38
Speaker 3: loves to tout it was meant to build forty thousand
43:42
Speaker 3: social and affordable rental homes by twenty twenty eight. Well,
43:45
Speaker 3: according to The Australian, it's been the equivalent of just
43:49
Speaker 3: eight median priced Sydney houses this financial year.
43:54
Speaker 1: Caro, this is outrageous.
43:59
Speaker 7: I was out ages, but it's totally unsurprised, isn't it.
44:02
Speaker 7: I mean, you've got a ten billion dollar fun that
44:05
Speaker 7: has spent thirteen million, and apparently in the last three
44:09
Speaker 7: months or the three months since the thirtieth of June,
44:12
Speaker 7: another one hundred and thirty odd million has been allocated.
44:17
Speaker 1: It's been allocated.
44:19
Speaker 7: But because of the way, because of the way this
44:21
Speaker 7: all works, you know, until places are built or money
44:25
Speaker 7: is allocated, until places are tenanted, say, you're not actually
44:30
Speaker 7: going to see the flow through effect.
44:32
Speaker 1: So we're kind of putting again. This will be unsurprising
44:35
Speaker 1: to you.
44:35
Speaker 7: The cart a bit before the horse, because you need
44:38
Speaker 7: to be able to get projects through, you need to
44:40
Speaker 7: be able to get buildings built. But if this money
44:44
Speaker 7: isn't you know, isn't happening until the back end, well,
44:47
Speaker 7: then you're gonna have a bit of a problem. I'd
44:48
Speaker 7: also love to know what feels like this very rushed
44:52
Speaker 7: one hundred and thirty odd million in the last three months,
44:55
Speaker 7: where that's going, how that's being spent, and how these
44:58
Speaker 7: applications are being as set because I reckon the government
45:02
Speaker 7: has probably wet themselves after it was only thirty million
45:05
Speaker 7: last year and all of a sudden they're spraying it
45:08
Speaker 7: all over the shot. So it'll be very interesting to
45:11
Speaker 7: see what the you know, what the ROI is on
45:14
Speaker 7: this money, you know, I mean, who knows. I could
45:17
Speaker 7: just see you being wasted and you really worry when
45:21
Speaker 7: you have got funds this peak and governments who hell
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Speaker 7: bent on pretending like they're doing something productive, and I mean,
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Speaker 7: none of this is going to make a dent on
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Speaker 7: the housing supply crisis at all.
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Speaker 13: No, absolutely not.
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Speaker 3: Well, look remember alban Easy parading around with that man
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Speaker 3: Care card before the election, promises of free healthcare here,
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Speaker 3: there and everywhere.
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Speaker 1: Well, so much for that.
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Speaker 3: The Australian Today has reported that only twelve percent of
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Speaker 3: general practitioners say they bulk bill all of their patients
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Speaker 3: and eight point eight percent of people, the highest on record,
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Speaker 3: going to the doctor because of cost. This new survey
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Speaker 3: of GPS has found GEMMA from November they'll be added
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Speaker 3: financial incentives for practices to bulk bill. But how much
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Speaker 3: of that is actually going to move the needle here?
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Speaker 6: I don't suspect much at all. I think if I
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Speaker 6: remember correctly, when this policy was announced and all of
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Speaker 6: the medical organizations AMA and all of the cohort came
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Speaker 6: out and said this is just nonsense. It's a nonsense
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Speaker 6: policy that is not going to work in practice or
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Speaker 6: in theory. And look, I've got a couple of friends
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Speaker 6: who are GPS and they all say the same thing.
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Speaker 6: It's just absolutely unsustainable. It's like we expect GPS to
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Speaker 6: not make a living, you know.
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Speaker 1: It's like we have this.
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Speaker 6: Expectation that they shouldn't charge for their time and.
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Speaker 1: That it's a charity, right. But also when there's this.
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Speaker 6: Pressure, the pressure is for the doctor to have a
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Speaker 6: shorter consult to push more people through during the day.
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Speaker 6: Like I'm very I say fortunate I pay the Medicare levee,
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Speaker 6: but I've also paid I've also, i should say, chosen
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Speaker 6: to pay private health insurance for as long as.
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Speaker 13: I've had a job.
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Speaker 1: So that's a long time.
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Speaker 6: Because I'm in my fifties now and.
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Speaker 1: I can that's not cheap. It is one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: not cheap.
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Speaker 6: But I can tell you what when I collapsed in
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Speaker 6: the street with a kidney stone four years ago, I
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Speaker 6: didn't go to a public hospital in Western Australia because
47:12
Speaker 6: I knew.
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Speaker 1: I'd end up ramped.
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Speaker 6: I went to a private emergency room and I had
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Speaker 6: emergency surgery that night, and all of a sudden it
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Speaker 6: was worth every piece of every sacrifice that I'd made
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Speaker 6: for that insurance. The point is, I'm in a position
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Speaker 6: to do that. Vulnerable people who have been sold a
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Speaker 6: furfee by this government on this policy have got false expectations,
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Speaker 6: and how are we going to meet that need?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's not quite the fantasy that we were
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Speaker 3: sold by alban Ezi.
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Speaker 1: Yet again.
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, bad news for renewable energy evangelists and electric car
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Speaker 3: enthusiasts alike.
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Speaker 1: It appears REMP.
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Speaker 3: Tape is getting in the way of Sydney's roadside EB rollout.
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Speaker 3: Energy distribution companies have warned bureaucracies preventing them funding and
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Speaker 3: installing electrical vehicle charges on polls, which in turn is
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Speaker 3: significantly slowing the roll out, creating all these black spots
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Speaker 3: across the state.
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Speaker 1: Carol, I know Jemmas had.
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Speaker 3: An electric car that lasted about FID a minute.
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Speaker 1: I'm free now everyone, I'm free?
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Speaker 7: Does this we only have about thirty seconds left here?
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Speaker 1: But does this come as a surprise.
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Speaker 13: No, not at all.
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Speaker 7: And the resources industry of Western Australia is going suck
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Speaker 7: it up, buddy, Welcome to our world. This is the
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Speaker 7: same problem we have in housing, the same problems we
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Speaker 7: have with infrastructure. When you let bureaucracy get in the
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Speaker 7: way and the process become more important than the outcome,
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Speaker 7: it affects all areas of industry. We're also seeing it
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Speaker 7: more broadly within renewable projects. So the fact that we're
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Speaker 7: seeing it with ev charges is probablyly surprising thing I've
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Speaker 7: heard this week.
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Speaker 1: I know exactly, isn't it? Thank you both, ladies.
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Speaker 3: That's all time we have for tonight. Chris Canny will
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Speaker 3: be back tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Here's Peter Kredlin.