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Trump Condemns Democrats for Message to Military | California Losing Jobs · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty.
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  Speaker 2: Kf I AM six forty Handle here on a Friday morning,
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  Speaker 2: November twenty one. It's raining, it's footy Friday at eight,
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  Speaker 2: it's ask candle anything at eight thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this I don't even know where to go with
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  Speaker 1: this one.
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  Speaker 2: This is another trump ism and it started with six
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  Speaker 2: Democratic congress people.
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  Speaker 1: Who are all former military people.
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  Speaker 2: Who made a video saying, and this is in relation
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  Speaker 2: to the president sending troops for example, attack possibly attacking Venezuela,
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  Speaker 2: just a lot of things that many people think are illegal,
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  Speaker 2: and that's going up through the courts. And what the
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  Speaker 2: video said is five of the Democrats said, this is
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  Speaker 2: to the armed services.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to follow illegal orders.
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  Speaker 2: One of them said, you cannot follow illegal orders. In
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  Speaker 2: other words, you are asked to do something and it
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  Speaker 2: is illegal, then you have a duty not to follow it.
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  Speaker 2: Now that is a little bit complicated because who determines
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  Speaker 2: what is legal or illegal. But just saying that, the
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  Speaker 2: President immediately on truth Social came back and said that
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  Speaker 2: that was seditious behavior punishable by death. This is really bad,
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  Speaker 2: dangerous to our country. He wrote, in an earlier post,
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  Speaker 2: their words cannot be allowed to stand seditious behavior from traitors,
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  Speaker 2: lock them up. Okay, So let me give you a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of law here. Okay, we start with the statement,
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  Speaker 2: you do not have to follow illegal orders, or you
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  Speaker 2: cannot follow illegal orders. Now, of course, Caroline Levitt said,
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  Speaker 2: what do you hear a chain of command?
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  Speaker 1: You can't ignore orders no matter what. That is wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And let me give you an example.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, And that's hyperbolic, but it's an example, and that is,
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  Speaker 2: there are a bunch of kids running out of a
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  Speaker 2: kindergarten class. You scream, or the authority scream, or the
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  Speaker 2: army screams, get down on your knees, put your hands up,
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  Speaker 2: and the guns unload them, even upon order.
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  Speaker 1: Should an army person do that?
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  Speaker 2: Now, obviously it's an extreme here, but it's an example.
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  Speaker 2: Should an armed army personnel shoot an unarmed person whose
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  Speaker 2: hands are in the air and.
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  Speaker 1: It's no threat.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that army person, that Soldier number one, has the
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  Speaker 2: right to say no, and it is our has the
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  Speaker 2: duty to say no.
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  Speaker 1: So these congress people are right.
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  Speaker 2: Now practically speaking, you know, is that ever going to happen?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it can't close. Remember Kent State.
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  Speaker 2: Where the four students were killed by the National Guard
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  Speaker 2: and the national guard shot into the crowd of demonstrating students.
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  Speaker 1: Who were unarmed and four of them were killed.
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  Speaker 2: Now there was an issue as to a gunshot was
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  Speaker 2: heard and they specifically aim who knows, But the point is,
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  Speaker 2: had they been aiming into the crowd, that is illegal.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do that. And Caroline Levitt said, chain of command.
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  Speaker 2: If you are ordered to do anything, you must follow that.
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  Speaker 2: Wrongo bongo. Okay, we start with that. Now, seditious behavior,
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  Speaker 2: that is not sedition. Telling telling service people you have
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  Speaker 2: the right not to follow illegal orders, that is not sedition.
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  Speaker 1: You are not a trader.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you are convicted under the wildest possibility, under
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  Speaker 2: the wildest circumstances, it's not a death penalty.
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  Speaker 1: It's not He's just dead ass wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And the fear among these these congress people is there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of deranged followers of the president who
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  Speaker 2: may take it on themselves to Okay, the president said
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  Speaker 2: they should die, they should be executed. Now do I
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  Speaker 2: think the president is going to order an execution?
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  Speaker 1: Of course not. Was this hyperbolic from the president.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so he's just spouting off, and I
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  Speaker 2: think he just doesn't know what he's talking about, and
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  Speaker 2: he's just reacting, and he throws it on truth social
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  Speaker 2: but you have to admit there are deranged people out there.
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  Speaker 1: Sedition, by the way, is maximum.
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  Speaker 2: Of twenty years, and there was only one person that
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  Speaker 2: got twenty years out of the January sixth got twenty
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  Speaker 2: two years because his few counts were leveled against him.
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  Speaker 2: And what happened, the president of course pardoned him because
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  Speaker 2: instead of looking at it as a seditious behavior and
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  Speaker 2: the beating up of police officers and overrunning the capital
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  Speaker 2: that this president views as patriotic, who was a patriotic
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  Speaker 2: move and all of the January sixth defendants are patriots,
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  Speaker 2: our patriots. So and by the way, he defended the
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  Speaker 2: chance of the supporters. Remember where they were screaming, hang
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  Speaker 2: Mike Pence, Hang Mike Pence. He never said anything negative
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  Speaker 2: about that. Hang that's Nancy Pelosi.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. These were patriots that were saying that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's kind of outrageous. Lindsey Graham, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: who is probably his staunscious supporter, said he has never
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  Speaker 2: seen democrats are any Congress people. This outrageous. Now, how
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  Speaker 2: about what the president said about hanging them? What do
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  Speaker 2: you think, Well, I disagree with that. Come on, guys,
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  Speaker 2: By the way, have you heard any Republican say the
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  Speaker 2: president is just dead ass wrong, straight out, dead ass wrong.
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  Speaker 1: This is not treason.
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  Speaker 2: Even if they called for the military to ignore a
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  Speaker 2: lawful order.
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  Speaker 1: Is that sedition? It is not sedition.
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  Speaker 2: Is overthrowing or being part of the overthrowing of the government,
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  Speaker 2: That sedition. Not telling service people you have the right
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  Speaker 2: not to listen to an unlawful order. It's a big difference,
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  Speaker 2: all right, duh. So I just wanted to point that out,
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  Speaker 2: sort of give you a background. Now I want to
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  Speaker 2: do a handle history segment because as soon as this happened,
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  Speaker 2: as soon as I saw this, I immediately went into
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  Speaker 2: my history mode.
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  Speaker 1: And this is World War two history.
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  Speaker 2: This is the history that I enjoy the most talking
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  Speaker 2: about because my dad's experience in World War Two, which
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  Speaker 2: is extraordinary. So there is a woman, was a woman
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  Speaker 2: by the name of Tuguri di Akino, and she was
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  Speaker 2: born in la and she was convicted of treason and
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  Speaker 2: went to prison for six years for treason.
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  Speaker 1: And her case was based on the testimony.
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  Speaker 2: Of two men who were coached by the FBI, and
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  Speaker 2: she became a sc scapegoat for anti Jabmandese sentiment, even
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  Speaker 2: though the case really sucked.
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  Speaker 1: After the war, she was Tokyo Rose.
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  Speaker 2: Tokyo Rose broadcasts on basically Radio Tokyo all over the
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  Speaker 2: South Pacific, and it was propaganda against the armed forces
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  Speaker 2: of the Allies, mainly the United States, saying things like,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to lose the war, you're here, you're dying,
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  Speaker 2: your wives are with new boyfriends. I mean, just really
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  Speaker 2: some pretty harsh stuff. And well, she was born in
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  Speaker 2: la in Watts. She went to UCLA and got a
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  Speaker 2: degree in zoology. So how does she become one of
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  Speaker 2: maybe a dozen Tokyo Roses. By the way, there was
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  Speaker 2: no single Tokyo Rose. They were never referred to as
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  Speaker 2: Tokyo Rose. That is an American name that the Allies
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  Speaker 2: came up with in referring to these women, all of
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  Speaker 2: who spoke absolutely perfect English. She didn't read Japanese or
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  Speaker 2: her parents were Japanese. She could barely speak a word
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  Speaker 2: of Japanese, but she spoke perfect English. And she became
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  Speaker 2: Tokyo Rose. Ah, what a story.
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  Speaker 1: This is so world War.
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  Speaker 2: Two ends in nineteen forty five, and journalists are now
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  Speaker 2: looking for Tokyo Rose. They didn't know that it was
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  Speaker 2: really six or twelve different people, and Tokyo Rose this
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  Speaker 2: was the voice or voices that we're trying to sat
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  Speaker 2: military morale by spreading propaganda against the American soldiers.
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  Speaker 1: And play American tunes.
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  Speaker 2: Effectively, she was a disc jockey and instead of doing it,
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  Speaker 2: now here's a tune from Benny Goodman or whatever who
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  Speaker 2: was playing. She also interspersed that with by the way, guys,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to lose the war.
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  Speaker 1: You know that, don't you.
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  Speaker 2: You're fighting a force much stronger than you. You're fighting
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  Speaker 2: something that can't be won. You're here, the other guys
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  Speaker 2: are there, and they're hooking up with your girlfriends, your wives,
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  Speaker 2: and look out, well look what's happening there. All right,
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  Speaker 2: I want to come back and finish it up. Because
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  Speaker 2: she was convicted of treason. Treason fascinating story. This is
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  Speaker 2: in light of what the President wrote on True Social
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  Speaker 2: regarding those five Democratic Congress people, all members of the military,
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  Speaker 2: saying to the military, our military, you don't have to
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  Speaker 2: follow illegal orders in reference to what's going on and
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  Speaker 2: in one of the posts, you cannot follow illegal orders,
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  Speaker 2: and the president went completely nuts and he wrote, this
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  Speaker 2: is treasonous, it can be this sedition. Can you get
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  Speaker 2: the death penalty? Which, as I explained, none of that
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  Speaker 2: is true. Okay, Now, what did happen is this La
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  Speaker 2: born Japanese woman to Gori Diakino convicted of treason and
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  Speaker 2: went to prison for six years. And it was a
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  Speaker 2: pretty sketchy case. And here's what happened. She shouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: been convicted, convicted because the entire case was based on
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  Speaker 2: testimony of two guys who were coached by the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: So she was one of Tokyo roses.
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  Speaker 2: There were about a dozen Tokyo roses, English speaking women
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  Speaker 2: of Japanese descent who in fact were in Tokyo broadcasting
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  Speaker 2: propaganda all over the South Pacific in favor of the
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  Speaker 2: Japanese and telling Allied forces you shouldn't fight.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to beat you.
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  Speaker 2: You've got your girlfriends, your wives are at home and
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  Speaker 2: they're screwing people, the male man.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just on and on now.
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  Speaker 2: As I said, she was born in La Here in
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  Speaker 2: laws Angeles, had a degree in zoology from UCLA, wanted
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  Speaker 2: to be a doctor. In nineteen forty one, she went
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  Speaker 2: to Tokyo. Now this is before the war. She had
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  Speaker 2: a sick aunt, she didn't have a passport, could not
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  Speaker 2: get out of Japan, and so what ended up happening
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  Speaker 2: she was trapped hounded by the Japanese police who were
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  Speaker 2: suspicious of her loyalty because she was an American. She
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  Speaker 2: refused to renounce her American city ship. She couldn't read Japanese,
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  Speaker 2: she basically couldn't speak it. So she found a job
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  Speaker 2: as a typist at Radio Tokyo. Because that's what they
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  Speaker 2: did is here you go, you can be a typists.
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  Speaker 2: And then what they did is enlisted powws in the
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  Speaker 2: propaganda division. And she became a disc jockey in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: forty three, and in a chirpy voice, speaking American English,
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  Speaker 2: she called herself Orphan Anne, by the way, and she
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  Speaker 2: did hundreds of broadcasts and she called those zero hours,
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  Speaker 2: and she would address the troops in the South Pacific
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  Speaker 2: as my boneheads in the South Pacific.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, federal prosecutor, she comes back. She's tried.
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  Speaker 2: She was a betrayer of her native land and a
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  Speaker 2: betrayer of her government. In time of need, she was
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  Speaker 2: a turncoat and a female. Benedict Arnold, I guess you
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  Speaker 2: could argue that, and she had actually, she argues subverting
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  Speaker 2: the propaganda.
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  Speaker 1: She was entertaining troops with language that no.
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  Speaker 2: One could take seriously, introduced upbeat American music. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: the gis loved her. They loved Tokyo Rose, they thought,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they all listened because effectively it was an
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  Speaker 2: American radio station they were listening to out of Tokyo.
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  Speaker 2: And the Japanese they got more than a dozen of
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  Speaker 2: these women into radio service, and the plan was to
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  Speaker 2: demoralize homesick troops. She talked about the hopelessness of the
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  Speaker 2: fight against Japan, urged American fighting men to quit now.
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  Speaker 2: Japanese surrender right or an atomic bomb hits Nagasaki Hiroshima
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  Speaker 2: and the Japanese surrender, and two American journalists find her
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  Speaker 2: because the Americans they wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Three people in Japan. Three people. One of them was
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  Speaker 1: hero Hito, the emperor that they wanted to try.
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  Speaker 2: But it turned out that MacArthur set that aside and
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  Speaker 2: said we're not going to go there, and he was
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  Speaker 2: brilliant about that. The other one was tojo Hidaiki Tojo,
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  Speaker 2: who was the prime minister. They tried the Americans. The
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  Speaker 2: Allies tried and they hanged him. The third person they
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  Speaker 2: were looking for was Tokyo Rose. She was considered that important.
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  Speaker 2: So she comes back to the United States. Two American
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  Speaker 2: journalists promised her two thousand dollars for rights to her story.
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  Speaker 2: She signs the contract saying that she was the one
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  Speaker 2: and only Tokyo Rose because she needed the money, and
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  Speaker 2: so the government in Japan through her in prison for
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  Speaker 2: a year, saying there was no case against her. She
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  Speaker 2: tried to return the United States with her husband, who
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  Speaker 2: was a Tokyo journalist. She was pregnant wanted her baby
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  Speaker 2: to be born American. Now keep in mind she's an
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  Speaker 2: American citizen. Made it back. LA City Council voted to
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  Speaker 2: bar her return. You ain't coming to Los Angeles. Pressure
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  Speaker 2: was mounting and mounting. This is during the Truman administration.
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  Speaker 2: She was hauled into federal court facing eight counts of
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  Speaker 2: treason in nineteen forty nine and she was convicted of
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  Speaker 2: treason six years and it turned out while she was
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  Speaker 2: Tokyo Rose one of them. The treason part actually did
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  Speaker 2: not really fly, but the political aspect of it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it did.
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  Speaker 2: She argues she was forced to do this by the
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  Speaker 2: Japanese government, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: But you still have to be able to have proof.
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  Speaker 2: And she was quoted as saying things that she claims
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  Speaker 2: she never said. By the way, there was no recording
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  Speaker 2: whatsoever at all of any of this. And it was
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  Speaker 2: these two guys coached by the FBI who testified against.
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  Speaker 1: Her, so her story.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, President Ford granted her a full pardon
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy seven. She was a ninety when she died,
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  Speaker 2: I think in two thousand and six, and reinstated her
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  Speaker 2: American citizenship. The story of Tokyo Rose who was convicted,
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  Speaker 2: and this is President Trump wants five Democratic Congress people
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  Speaker 2: convicted of sedition because they're telling servicemen you do not
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  Speaker 2: have to follow illegal orders by the administration or by
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  Speaker 2: the president that sedition. That should be the death penalty.
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  Speaker 2: And none of that is true. None of that is true.
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  Speaker 2: All right, California, it's losing a lot of good jobs.
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  Speaker 2: We used to have the California model, massive investments in
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  Speaker 2: higher education. By the way, University of California at one
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  Speaker 2: point was considered the finest university system in the world,
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  Speaker 2: development of industrial zones like the South Bay Silicon Valley,
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  Speaker 2: upgrading a basic infrastructure. California was dynamic, prosperous. It's broken
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  Speaker 2: now and now the state still provides great opportunities for
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  Speaker 2: technology and financial elites. But looking behind, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: it leaves behind this spectrum big one of the middle
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  Speaker 2: and working class.
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  Speaker 1: And how do we know. Let's look at the stats.
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  Speaker 2: The state's poverty and unemployment level highest in the country, TEPI,
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  Speaker 2: job growth highest in the country. Other states Texas, Florida, Arizona,
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  Speaker 2: the Carolinas, Tennessee. They have exploded. They're doing so well.
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  Speaker 2: And you know why they're doing so well because they're
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  Speaker 2: following the California model. They're doing the investment, they're doing
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  Speaker 2: the infrastructure, they're bringing people. And so you look at
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  Speaker 2: the defense and aerospace industries.
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  Speaker 1: The state.
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  Speaker 2: We lead in numbers of engineers, the cutting edd technology.
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  Speaker 1: But here's what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Once the companies develop products, they move they go to Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Why is that well, because of taxes, because of housing
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  Speaker 2: and aerospace jobs are great.
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  Speaker 1: California is one of the most expensive places. I think
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  Speaker 1: it is the.
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  Speaker 2: Most expensive place to live. So let's go to Texas,
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  Speaker 2: so the jobs go there. There's a company called Jet Zero.
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  Speaker 2: It makes fuel efficient planes based in Long Beach. The
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  Speaker 2: jets will be built in Greensboro, North Carolina. Fourteen thousand
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  Speaker 2: people will be working over ten years. A almost five
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  Speaker 2: billion dollar plant is being built SpaceX. Right, they're already
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  Speaker 2: moving from California to Texas because that's where they're going
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  Speaker 2: to build the rockets. Blue Origin Jeff Bezos, the largest
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  Speaker 2: test facility that has Brownsville and Van Horn, Texas bringing
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  Speaker 2: these great blue collar jobs. And so why is California
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  Speaker 2: falling behind? Well, if you look at what is happening here, Well,
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  Speaker 2: we're more involved in green energy, and we're fighting and
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  Speaker 2: we're trying to save Hollywood. We're trying to get a
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  Speaker 2: space commission. We don't have one.
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  Speaker 1: Texas and Florida they do have one.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, environmental questions are far more important
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  Speaker 2: than keeping jobs here. Texas and the Carolinas are just
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  Speaker 2: doing so much better and we're simply losing to these
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  Speaker 2: players in other states. And well, how about chip manufacturing
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  Speaker 2: that takes enormous amounts of energy, which is the most
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  Speaker 2: expensive state in the United States for energy costs? Why
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  Speaker 2: it's California, and these chip plants just suck up energy
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  Speaker 2: like you can't believe.
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  Speaker 1: So if we have to go back, are we going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to go back? Well, certainly not with Newsom.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly not with a liberal legislature and a liberal governor.
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  Speaker 1: Moved to Texas.
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  Speaker 2: And if you have a shotgun, get yourself a pickup
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  Speaker 2: truck and get yourself one of those racks and put
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  Speaker 2: the shotgun in the back window, because you have to
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  Speaker 2: do that. That's the law, by the way in Texas.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that, but by statute
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  Speaker 2: you have to do that. KFI AM six point forty.
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