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- Todd: We've had Strangulation twice. How are we gonna fit strangulation into this one? Yo, it's Carrie: I don't know. But my daughter my Todd: Ha ha ha ha. Yo, it's Carrie: daughter saw a clip and she was not happy about it. She said it said something about st Todd: What by me or by you? Yo, it's Carrie: strangulation and I was like I'm like, Yeah, you gotta hear it to get it. You can't just be enraged by our headlines. Todd: That one I don't even know if that was it was the headline she saw. Yeah. Strangulation is healthcare. That was the one the first one we did. Which is obviously Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. I think that was the one. I think that was the one. Todd: a play on abortion as healthcare. That's you know, kind of the point. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Right. Todd: It's like murderous healthcare. It's kind of the point. And Yo, it's Carrie: I get it. my gosh. Yeah. my gosh. Todd: then we did s you coined the last one. Strangulation starts at home. That was fabulous. Yo, it's Carrie: It starts at home. Todd: Welcome everyone to the wildly opinionated news hour, Todd's World. I'm Todd. Carrie's my co-host. We Yo, it's Carrie: Hello. Todd: come at you well with News Hour, we're doing it every other week. So two weeks ago was your last one. And you're probably damn near in withdrawal right now. Wondering what is even going on. You can't trust Fox. I mean, how could you trust them? Or whoever else? They've all been expelled Yo, it's Carrie: I wonder I'm Todd: from the White House. Yo, it's Carrie: No, we've just we've not been expelled, we've just never been invited. I wonder how the Todd: It's true. So Yo, it's Carrie: people are doing who used to really get their news from us. Todd: I I I don't know. Somehow they're making it through. So far we're making it through. I think it's working out. I'm happy with it. I don't feel like we're missing too much. I oddly, Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, I like it. Or not. Todd: I feel like and maybe this is for for a while, you Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: know when we had the twenty twenty four election and then we had Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Trump's first year. Remember his first hundred days was just like he was he was a house on fire, man. Everything like USAID, Yo, it's Carrie: Yep. Todd: everything, he's just banging, banging, banging. And then as we've hit this midterm and this everything else, it's just seemed like and and of course always happens in summer too, and we're coming off summer. But it seems like the news cycle just kinda it's just like a little bit of a grind. Like we had Lindsay Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, it is. Todd: Clancy for two, for like two shows for us is four weeks. This is going on out there. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Guys, in fact, that let's title this episode We've had Strangulation twice. How are we gonna fit strangulation into this one? Yo, it's Carrie: I don't know. But my daughter my Todd: Ha ha ha ha. Yo, it's Carrie: daughter saw a clip and she was not happy about it. She said it said something about st Todd: What by me or by you? Yo, it's Carrie: strangulation and I was like I'm like, Yeah, you gotta hear it to get it. You can't just be enraged by our headlines. Todd: That one I don't even know if that was it was the headline she saw. Yeah. Strangulation is healthcare. That was the one the first one we did. Which is obviously Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. I think that was the one. I think that was the one. Todd: a play on abortion as healthcare. That's you know, kind of the point. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Right. Todd: It's like murderous healthcare. It's kind of the point. And Yo, it's Carrie: I get it. my gosh. Yeah. my gosh. Todd: then we did s you coined the last one. Strangulation starts at home. That was fabulous. Yo, it's Carrie: It starts at home. Todd: That was that was fabulous. But listen Yo, it's Carrie: Thank you. Todd: guys, we got I I'm I said we're gonna be done with Lindsay Clancy. We are, but I there was her husband came out and and had a few things to say that I thought we should at least give him the give him a little bit of a listen, you know, Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: and and just hear what he had to say. And then we're we're and Michael Knowles had had a had a post, an ex Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: post about one of these that I want to discuss. And then after that we're no Lindsey Clancy, none of the time. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Love it. That sounds good. No, I think it's good. Todd: Alright, fair. So let's go let's go right into that. this is Patrick Clancy is his name. Yo, it's Carrie: We don't want to strangle a dead horse. Todd: There's the title. Gary keeps banging it. Bangers. Isn't that what the Gen Z says? Yo, it's Carrie: No no don't make don't make that the That's a banger. That's a good song, yeah. here we go. Todd: My Yo, it's Carrie: this was on sixty minutes? Dang. Todd: Yes. My my daughters tell me. They're like they they use Gen Z slang, then I start using it, and of course I use it wrong, and they get they're like, my god, just don't even say it. Like fine like here's one the other day, fine shite. Yo, it's Carrie: That is so funny. Yeah. Todd: I need I still right now I don't know what it means. It refers Yo, it's Carrie: I've not heard that one. Todd: to some person out there. So I just start using it about people in public. Ha ha It's so great. Everyone should Yo, it's Carrie: That's great. Todd: wish they were my daughter. Alright. Specially. Specially Lindsay Clancy's Yo, it's Carrie: They are getting a unique experience. Todd: kids should wish they were my daughters. Okay, here's Patrick Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: Clancy. Talking about his kids. Lindsay can Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: l for for those I guess maybe I should have set this up and not assumed it was Evergreen. Lindsay Clancy, wonderful mother, Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: loving mother in Massachusetts. Other than the small episode where she strangled all three of her children. And this is her ex-husband, who has been taking a lot of flack. You have all these crazies out in the media, these crazy Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: millennial women who think he must have killed the kids. And then he pushed her out a window. And then he concocted. It's also crazy. It's been it's like the Charlie Kirk, Erica Kirk stuff. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: It's kinda like a lot of the Israel Jew stuff that has been Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: circulating. It's just crazy. But Yo, it's Carrie: Wow. Todd: But this is where people go anymore. So anyway, that's part of the reason I wanted to play him because we hadn't represented this is just a normal dude. You know what I mean? Who Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: I mean it's an abnormal circumstance. It's an extraordinary circumstance. Yo, it's Carrie: The right. Todd: But but just a just a regular guy. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: So there's that, Carrie. Yo, it's Carrie: Wow. Todd: what do you think? Tough. It's a Yo, it's Carrie: I just it's it's so heartbreaking and yeah, I I Todd: It's almost unimaginable. Yo, it's Carrie: it is. It's completely. and the guy, you know, I don't know anything about him or their marriage or anything. Not that any of that excuses anything. I'm just saying Todd: Right. Yo, it's Carrie: I mean I feel for the woman who did it. She's living with that every day. but he yeah, my heart just heart breaks for him. It's awful. And to dream about You know, I'm I'm in a lot of like widows groups on not a lot a few widows groups online. And Todd: Okay. Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: people will talk about how they dream about their loved ones who they've lost. Todd: Really? Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, it's something like there's some people who really wish for it. There's some people who are disturbed by it. Kinda depends. yeah. Todd: Well you're you're I mean, spoiler alert, you're in a widows group 'cause you're a widow. Do you Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Yes. Todd: do you ever dream of of of Steve? Yo, it's Carrie: I had w I had one I had one dream and and but he wasn't talking in it. And I was like I you know, he was a radio guy and I liked his voice and I was like, I wish I wish he had talked in it. But it was just like a blip. It was I I I I almost can't even remember it now. I think he I think he showed up like he walked in and we were all like Like what like what are you doing here? Kind of like a why why are you here? Like he didn't know. Todd: Okay. Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: but he didn't talk in it. So it was like, but but that Todd: Sorry. Yo, it's Carrie: was it. But there are people no, that's okay. But there are people who dream like who do have like lucid dreams. They feel like they're visited by now I've Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: had dreams about I've had dreams about Floyd, my dad. Yep. Todd: Have you? Okay. Yo, it's Carrie: just a couple of times, long time ago. I've had dreams about my grandparents who I lost. I have I have my grandma a lot. I'll dream about my grandmother a lot. And I say a lot, a couple of times a year. Yeah. Ninety eight. Yep. Todd: Your your your mom's your mom's mom, who who lived to be very, very yeah, almost a hundred, yeah, and and had twelve kids and big impact on the community, yes. Yo, it's Carrie: Mhm. And a b yeah, big influence on on my life and but she yeah, like she'll come up in in dreams and stuff. Anyway, my point is, I it's I don't know, like it's kind of like it could it could feel like a visit. And I can imagine him describing his daughter Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: coming in and hugging him and feeling lucid and feeling like that was, you know, more than just, you know, your imagination. Todd: We're looking at the kids right now on screen. So guys, if you're if you're watching the video, I this I don't Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: think again again, with with as much as we've talked about Yo, it's Carrie: Mm mm. Todd: this, I'm not sure that we've actually shown a picture of the kids. So this is the kids that Yo, it's Carrie: my gosh. Todd: the mom thought she should strangle because she was sad. Is the idea. Yo, it's Carrie: Lord have mercy. Todd: I have not, you know, I've had a lot of loss in my life. And the only the Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Spoiler alert. Todd: only dream that I've had My dad after he died, was I I had one dream of him. And if if people are curious what that is, go to Toddsworld dot net. I've got a Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: memoir, Leaves the Blue Away. In fact there's a chapter that's that's an actual dreams chapter that is to date and may remain my one and only half ass attempt into poetry land. Yo, it's Carrie: It's r it's good. The the whole book is good. But also for Todd: But that little chapter. Yo, it's Carrie: yeah, for people who don't know, like you lost your dad very suddenly. Very unexpected. Todd: Yeah, he had he had a heart attack and and so that I and I felt like yeah, it was a i I mean, I felt like that was meaningful of sorts to me. I don't know even Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: exactly know how, because there wasn't by any stretch anything like any kind of resolution. And my dad just Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: dropped out. My mom passed away cancer long or not a long illness, but you know, like a nine month illness went straight downhill and then and then died of cancer. Knew it was coming, whatever. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-mm. Todd: and then my sister, And brother. Anyway, go buy the book. Todd's Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: World.net. Any of the books on there are fabulous. The memoirs Leaves the Blue Way, which I'm hopeful to work on, start working on the audiobook for soon. But I do have Yo, it's Carrie: good. Todd: audiobooks for both insurrection books, which are fabulous. Fiction books, fiction Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: series, and witness, which is great. Nine mile points on there. Go check it out. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Okay. this is Patrick Clancy, and we're gonna hear one more clip from him, and then I'm gonna read you what Michael Knowles wrote. And then we'll talk about it and then Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: hopefully forget this ever happened. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. gosh. Todd: I think this was the youngest, the baby. Yo, it's Carrie: okay. shoot. dear God. Mm. Todd: well that was fun. Yo, it's Carrie: And Todd. Todd: That was fun. I really brought it down. Yo, it's Carrie: You know, I I've it I've had a really shitty week and this just kinda gives me a little perspective. Todd: That was really that that was rough. Now let me read you what Michael Knowles wrote because I think this Yo, it's Carrie: Wow Wow Okay. Todd: it works right on the heels of that. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: So this is Michael Knowles from the Daily Wire. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: this interview s talking about the interview with Patrick Clancy on 60 Minutes. This interview strikes me as one of the most important in recent decades because it simply presents a man suffering in a culture that does everything. To distract from, deny, and even abolish suffering. After a school shooting, activists push for some new gun regulation. Someone dies of cancer, we raise money for research. A leader is assassinated so we carry on the victim's work. We concoct some conspiracy theory that reframes the grief into anything other than what it is. But here it's all laid bare. There is no campaign to run, no laws to pass, no No legacy to carry on, no mystery to solve, no happy clappy celebration of life. We just sit with a guy enduring horrific suffering in public. Other cultures, including ours in earlier epochs, have done that as a matter of course. We no longer do. We feel uneasy. We don't know what to make of it. Yo, it's Carrie: Wow. Todd: What do think? Yo, it's Carrie: that's you know, Michael Knowles is he said it well. it's interesting Todd: You think he's right? Yo, it's Carrie: I I do think he's right. I do think that of course I think it's human nature to not want to to not want to focus on on the suffering. But this is so interesting you brought this up because I was just reading yesterday this excerpt from you familiar with Oscar Wilde. Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: he wrote this in I I just I I took a picture of this quote from it. He wrote this letter while he was in prison called De Profundus, which is I think actually he uh-huh. He I I I was gonna Todd: What was he you're gonna have to refresh me on some I mean, I know he was an author, but I do you have some some background you can give me? 'Cause Yo, it's Carrie: say he I think he was very unconventional like sexually for his time. I think people thought he was really like depraved and Todd: Where was he in England or something? Or was it in America? Yo, it's Carrie: I think I feel like he's I feel like he's British. I don't actually I know, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to I wasn't gonna give a bad I know I feel bad now, but that I don't know more about him personally, but I I Todd: No none of us know. Alright, anyway, go ahead with what you're saying. None of us know who Oscar Wilde is. Yo, it's Carrie: just but this but this quote this quote just goes along with what you're saying and I just read it yesterday. Suffering is one very long moment. We cannot divide it by seasons We can only record its moods and chronicle their return. With us, time itself does not progress, it revolves, it seems to circle around one center of pain. Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: And yeah, and now that just makes me think of that father. yeah. Todd: How much of suffering do you think is is just the waiting for the pain to stop hurting or the situation to resolve? You know what I mean? It's that Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: it's that feeling of being just kind of stuck in waiting. Do you know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Right. I think a lot a lot of it is. That's like what we th and that's that's this, I mean that's kind of what it's saying. It's one very long it's it's like Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: a it's a whole it's it's part of the life experience. yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: Well what I was thinking of, just as another shameless plug, is our show Beers with Jesus, which drops on Wednesdays. We just walked through the stories of the Bible. So we we did Mark, all about Jesus, fabulous. Went to Acts, Acts of the Disciples, the Church after Jesus. Now we're in Genesis, so the very beginning. We're in Abraham. And a lot of Abraham we've been talking about waiting, and it's it's really has has been impactful to me. as we've been going through it, which is a lot of the times with Beers with Jesus how it happens is I don't know. I mean, I Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: I hope that it hits with others, and I hear sometimes Yo, it's Carrie: I hope so too. Todd: that it does, but it definitely hits with me. So Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: so that waiting anyway, you should you should log on. We I think the last one last week's I don't know what this week's will be because we haven't recorded it yet, but it'll drop tomorrow. And I know it's about Abram. Yo, it's Carrie: It will be it will be amazing. Todd: Last week's was Wait still waiting on God when you're old as hell. And it was a great Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: Actually I listened to that. I don't do this all the time. I happened to listen my first listen on that was watching it with Nikki and she really enjoyed it. She thought it was a great episode. I thought it was good too. Yo, it's Carrie: Listened to it also. Todd: And I and I thought it was fabulous. Yo, it's Carrie: I don't always listen to our show afterwards anymore. Like life's too busy, but I listened to to last week's. It was good. Okay. Todd: I do always listen. I always do at least a listen, but it's rare that my first listen is watching it with Nikki sitting somewhere, you know what mean. So Yo, it's Carrie: gotcha. Okay. Sure. It's cool she's watching it. Todd: Yeah, it was she thought it was really good. She thought that the exploration Yo, it's Carrie: Nice. Todd: of and she has would would have friends or or acquaintances or whatever you want to call it that are kinda into polyamory and different things out there, kind of scattered around, you know, Facebook, whatever. Yo, it's Carrie: Sure. Todd: And so she would have opinions on all that and thought she she just really enjoyed the show. She thought it really good. So I feel like we need a little palate cleanser after Patrick bringing down bringing down the mood. God. All that happened was your kids got strangled. Can't you at least laugh for us? Yo, it's Carrie: Yes, I know. I I was gonna say I was gonna say I'm glad like I went and w It's horrible. I went and walked, this morning 'cause it's so beautiful out. Fall has r fall has reached us and I'm like Todd: Uh-huh. Yo, it's Carrie: I didn't have time. I'm unshowered and now I'm so glad 'cause I can't wait to just go shower after this really sad Todd: And just Yo, it's Carrie: start to our show. Just start fresh. Dry dry brush, you know? Brush it off. Yeah. Todd: Well that that's all. I want I felt like we needed that was the bookend that I didn't feel like maybe we had put on that thing that dominated the news for a while. They we maybe Yo, it's Carrie: That was our epilogue of that. Todd: I felt like like with the stor the narrative out there and everything that we were responding Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: to, it missed the point because it missed the victims. We it the victims got lost in it and it got Yo, it's Carrie: Thank you. Todd: shifted to the mom who did the strangling with the exercise bands was the victim. No Today we saw the real Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: victims. And and that that's I think where I wanna leave the Lindsey Clancy case for America is is let's let's let's let's try to see the real victims. Let's not get lost in in the devil's tales. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, it's sad and that's perfect, Todd. Todd: So speaking of the devil. Yo, it's Carrie: no. This is our palette cleanser and you're opening with the devil? Shit. Okay. Todd: Do you remember this is our this is our ballot cleanser. This I'm pretty sure is AI, but it's pretty hilarious. You're I don't know if you remember this Yo, it's Carrie: is it you think this is AI? Todd: chick from the from a a year or two ago, Tiffany Gomez is her name. And Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: she was that this really happened. What you're seeing right here happened where she got up on a plane and was like, I don't know who that is, but he's not real, okay? But this is this is Yo, it's Carrie: What? Todd: a an AI version of it. She she's now on you can find her on X. I follow her. She would she she's she's pretty entertaining. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: but but this actually happened. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: But this part this this version is is very fabulous. Cause Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: you know, the turtle made it back to the Senate a few weeks ago, so And then the camera pans submission. Yo, it's Carrie: What you're saying is she said this about someone else, but they Who was she? Who was she? the Mitch Mitch And what was her? Todd: This really happened. And then then yeah, we photoshopped Mitch. It was just some random person that she claimed had like lizard eyes. Like his eyes blinked the wrong way. Now now Yo, it's Carrie: Holy crap. Todd: I will say that she has backed off this initially this this was quite a s quite a story. But like I say, it was back a year or two ago and she Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: backed off some on the I don't know that she she Lives and died. But but you can tell she believed at the time. So I don't know. So Yo, it's Carrie: Wow. Todd: this happened but then they photoshopped in Mitch McConnell. That just never gets old, I'm sorry. Yo, it's Carrie: That's hilarious. I know, he does seem to be out out and about again, right? Todd: Well that depends on your definition of out and about, I suppose. Yo, it's Carrie: I mean, you know, it's all relative, but like Mitch McConnell, like what the heck? That guy, I don't that's so crazy. Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: I don't give two. She's so Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: wow, she's like really like hiss hysterical, like that that pitch of her voice. She's freaking out. Todd: she it it wa yeah, you could tell that it that was a that that was really going on. You know, Yo, it's Carrie: I wonder I wonder what happened. Okay. Todd: who showed back up 'cause there's some talk, believe it or not. Yo, it's Carrie: Who? Mitch McConnell. Todd: it's kinda like that. Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris showed back up somewhere. Someone felt the need to interview her. They thought that we needed just a little bit more comic relief in our life. And so what is she describing here? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: let me I can't I I should have looked at that before I minimized it. she A I thought Yo, it's Carrie: I love the guys I love the name of this Todd: it was AI. AI and algorithms. We're gonna get an explanation from from Yo, it's Carrie: cool. I love the name of this guy's show. it said Todd: What is it? Yo, it's Carrie: it said well nah I lost it. Something about off on the air, off the air with Todd: hold on. Yo, it's Carrie: big boy. No, it's when you s when you hit play you can see it in the lower corner. It's pretty funny. Todd: What's it say? it's not showing on there. Okay, we'll see it guys. Let's see if we can let's see what Kamala Harris. I mean, I think we can all agree, one of our leading intellectuals, one of the one of the greatest speakers of our modern times. She's gonna explain AI and algorithms to us. Where'd the where'd our picture go? hold on. Yeah, Yo, it's Carrie: I don't know. Yeah, why is it blurry? We don't know. Todd: like it it disappeared. What's going on here? Let's try this again. How do I what? Sorry guys. I don't know what happened. Like it was right there and then everything just kinda let's find it Yo, it's Carrie: Excuse me. Todd: again. There she is. Okay, what is it? End wokeness? I that's the post. That's who posted it. I don't know. Yo, it's Carrie: It's No. Yeah, no, I'm looking no, it's this it's down in the corner there. When you go big I'll be able to see it. It says Off air with big boy Todd: Okay. Awfair with big boy. So that's the podcast. Let's hear what Kamala Harris. We're gonna finally Yo, it's Carrie: Just a funny name. Todd: understand AI. We might get into AI a little bit later in the show, so this is our Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: this is our is it a primer or a primer? Yo, it's Carrie: Primero. Todd: Somebody said primer the other day and I thought that doesn't sound right. Yo, it's Carrie: Primer I have heard that. I feel like that's old. Todd: no. I think we could all feel sympathy for the algorithm. Struggling with Kamala Harris's brain. What what did she say? What did Yo, it's Carrie: Wow. I don't know. Todd: she even say? That that that my friends right there, that was the bullet that you dodged. So with all our frustration with Trump of some of which we may err later, let us not forget the bullet we dodged. Okay? Yo, it's Carrie: Yep. That's fair. Wow. Todd: Wow. You can't even make any sense of it. I didn't even know. She's talking about pink flowers, yellow flowers. What what is she even talking about? No one knows. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, I mean I I get what she's saying, but it's just was I do. She's Todd: You do? What is she saying? Yo, it's Carrie: saying that the algorithm like if you are online looking at yellow flowers, that the algorithm then just shows you more yellow flowers. It doesn't show you pink flowers and Todd: That's not true though. Yo, it's Carrie: but it well, I was gonna say like if you like if you start looking up Todd: It shows you flowers. Yo, it's Carrie: recipes or you're shopping for a particular car or something, you do start seeing ads for those things. I mean, yes, that's part of the algorithm. Todd: Yes. Yo, it's Carrie: I don't think that is really I don't know if that's really like the big picture of the dangers of AI's algorithms, but you know, I it was it it was a it Todd: Just just Yo, it's Carrie: was an off the cuff example of something yeah. Todd: It's like watching a living, breathing, rubber mallet that actually has the capabilities of speech and you think, Wow, you just are left you're left almost baffled. There's nothing else to say. Yo, it's Carrie: I love the look on the guy's face, he's just kinda like like I don't know where to go from here. That's Todd: What did what did she just say? Yo, it's Carrie: funny. Todd: I thought I had Mayor Pete on here. here he is. Speaking of the other bullet that we might have dodged. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: Here is Mayor Pete, who now resides in Traverse City, Michigan, I believe. Yes. Yo, it's Carrie: Really? Is he still in is he still like in office anywhere? Todd: No. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: He he was Biden's what was he? He was a token energy secretary thing, right? Yo, it's Carrie: okay. Todd: Yeah. Yeah. not energy. That was Grant Grantholm. what was he? Transportation. Yeah. He messed up transportation. As badly as as any Yo, it's Carrie: right. Transportation. Todd: gay man could. Okay. Yo, it's Carrie: dear Todd: Are we ready now? There's Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. Todd: we're g we're gonna hear about Kamala. There just th there there's some sense, there's a method in my madness, people. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: Just because we've gone to every other week doesn't mean I've forgotten how to do this. We're still wildly opinionated Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: and talented. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: Talking about Kamala. Or if he were. Well things are different now because he's grown a beard. And maybe America's ready for a gay president with a beard. You know, he had kind of that like that slim like little boy look and that I don't think like if we want a president, we want one more on the top end, I think, of the you know what I'm saying. Of course. Hold on. Voters are coming out hundreds and hundreds Does he is that why he thinks we're ready for a gay president? We got so many more gay people? Yo, it's Carrie: I don't think that's what he I don't think but I I I feel like he is like speaking the truth here, Todd. Listen to this. Todd: Carrie's ready for a gay president, Pete. Yo, it's Carrie: Does not bother me. Todd: yeah, right. Pride bread. Yo, it's Carrie: She's like Todd: She's real excited. In the borderlands, what in the hell are the borderlands? Yo, it's Carrie: So I'm sorry, though I'm excited about what he said at the front end of that. He s I he said the American Todd: Tell me what he said that you're excited about. Our future gay president. Yo, it's Carrie: the American people aren't like concerned with like the identity, like these these identity labels. It's like, yes, can we stop? I don't freaking care if our president is gay. I don't Todd: You don't. Yo, it's Carrie: care if our president is black or female or Todd: Well, I got the candidate for you then. That was James Talerico. That's James Tal Rico the Yo, it's Carrie: I care if our president is competent. I care if our president is intelligent. I care if our president loves America. Those are the things I care about. Yeah. my gosh, it's so insulting. I that's hilarious. Todd: Who Yo, it's Carrie: I care I care that our president and all of our politicians are not communists. America hating communists. Like that's that's what I care about. Todd: Carrie is ready for a gay president. P Mayor P grew a beard. Carrie got all Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. As long as he loves America and isn't a communist. Todd: like I gotta like a guy with a beard. I'm on board with Mayor P. Yo, it's Carrie: I'm not into beards. I'm not into Todd: Is this on Yo, it's Carrie: Pete. Todd: is this on Delmar? This is on Delmar. Speaking of, are is America ready for a gay president? This is this is n Yo, it's Carrie: Bill's talking about it. Todd: well, this is a guy a guest, an openly gay Atlantic writer. his name is James Kirchek, and he talks for a couple minutes here about what he thinks is going wrong with the gays and the queers and their presentation in America at least. So they're talking about the the pro-Palestinian pro socialist wing of the Democrat Party that that seems to be comprised Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: mostly of the Utes. The young Utes Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: He's saying that's that's the what the the pro Palestinian group is saying. Yo, it's Carrie: It it's it's the pressure within the community. Like if you're in the queer community, you need to be pro Palestine. Todd: Yeah, that they're the the Well and they said but because this guy, Scott Wiener, is is not pro Palestine, therefore he's no longer queer, even though he's a gay man. Do you understand what I'm saying? So th so hi his his his beef is that they're they're kind of making this language abusive, I guess, of sorts, I g is maybe a way to think of it. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. This is like this I was gonna say this is like in context narrative pressure. Yeah, okay. Like you're not allowed to think for yourself. I Todd: Yes. Yeah. Yes. Right. Yo, it's Carrie: got it. Got it. Todd: I hope this isn't too low. Yo, it's Carrie: I can hear it. Todd: Ha ha Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: Obviously I see I'm confused by he's still talking to these gay men, but they got their head bashed in. It must be that it wasn't fully bashed in. Right? Yo, it's Carrie: Well, meaning like meaning they were attacked. Yeah. Right. Todd: They were attacked, yes. Yo, it's Carrie: This is this is are you finishing the clip or are we talking about this? Okay. Okay. Because this is interesting. Todd: We'll finish it. 'Cause he makes a good point. The the the the main point I want to get to is at the end. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Yeah, of course. Todd: Okay, there's the whole clip, Carrie. What do you think? Yo, it's Carrie: Yep. I agree with that point at the end, I think I mean, you know. Todd: Carrie's ready for a gay president. Still. He had a beard too. Why are all these gay guys growing beards? Yo, it's Carrie: Again, I don't care. Like it's just it's just that I just don't care if our president is gay. I don't care if someone is gay. It does Todd: Okay. Yo, it's Carrie: but and I haven't researched it, I'm just but it makes sense to me that it's the extremism that is turning people off from it. Because unfortunately, you know, it's it's impacting the the general public's view of what that community is about. Whereas the genuine people in the community who the you know gays and bisexuals who want the freedom to love who they want to love, you know, adults, consex consensual, all that, Todd: Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: people could get on board with that. You know, love is love. They could get on board with that Todd: Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: in the marriage thing for some. However, then you've got like the extremism and the and the trans and the pushing the agendas and the influencing minors and all of that and it's like, yep. It turns people off of the whole group, even though the majority of like those just those regular people it that was not that was not their intent or their agenda and like a many of them, you know, they're gay people speaking out about tr you know, pushing Todd: Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: trans procedures onto kids and stuff like that. So Am I am I making am I making the point clearly? There's a lot Todd: Carrie's ready. I can tell. You're ready. You're excited about the gay president. We've not yet begun. You remember as good as it gets, Jack Nicholson Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: says. And when one of your fudgebackers finally gets elected to the White House, don't come knocking at my door. You remember that movie? Fabulous movie. One of my favorite movies of all time, honestly. Yo, it's Carrie: my gosh. my gosh. I love that movie. It's a great movie. Is have you seen, you know, Dave Chappelle, Sticks and Stones, Todd: Yes. Yo, it's Carrie: and he talks about the the alphabet people? Todd: Yeah, you know, I sometimes have trouble keeping his straight. Like Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: I so I don't remember that shtick 'cause you know, he goes on these long winding stories, sometimes it's hard for me to remember which one he's talking about, you know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. It's really funny. He talks about everyone like riding in the car. And the car is yeah. Todd: yes, I do remember that one. Yes. Yo, it's Carrie: And he said like the and the tran he's like they don't know how to feel about the trans people. The T's, the T's, Todd: The T's Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: because the T's are like kind of slowing down, like they're slowing down the the trip. They're slowing down the drive. And it's like it's so true. Like he know he does it in a really funny humorous Brilliant way, but yeah. Todd: I I tell you I am gonna say this. Carrie has i i in listen, this is this is a a beautiful example of the of the wild diversity on Todd's world. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: And Carrie, of course, can express whatever opinion she wants, however eloquently and beautifully she wants to. And I am not ready for a gay president I would like to point out. I and I don't necessarily Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. I wondered if you were just gonna stay silent, Todd: agree Yo, it's Carrie: huh? Todd: with his well I was trying to let you have your moment. Because honest to God, if Nikki were here she'd probably be with you. You know, and I think, well, this is why women are a problem sometimes. But no, I'm just kidding. No, I Yo, it's Carrie: boy. You're like Todd: think yeah I d I don't necessarily agree with this premise either that that's why America is turning that's why support for gay marriages is going down. Here's what I think happened. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: I think that I was there. Okay. I Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: I think I I voted against the first time it came up that I don't know if everybody remembers this, but but for for a while through the two thousands, I think, Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: the issue of gay marriage was on various statewide election ballots, like ballot initiatives. And Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Todd: almost everywhere they lost. Almost everywhere they tried to win they lost. And they usually lost bigly. To quote George W. Bush. But the but then what happened is the Supreme Court stepped in and just said, gay marriage is legal. Boom. Now, so Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: what you had happen was you had an environment where by and large the electorate and the public had voiced their opinion. They had given their verdict, and their verdict was ignored and overruled by unelected judges in black robes, which has happened Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: all across on all kinds of topics, on all kinds of issues. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: The same thing they tried to do during that the this was done constantly leading up to the Civil War. Supreme Court would try this and they'd try that because the Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: the the electorate had clearly expressed their opinions, both in the north and the south. It was an an unbridgeable gap that they Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: were on either side of. And the Supreme Court thought, we're perfect, we can handle unbridgeable gaps. And then they don't. And I think Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: so I think what happened is it actually never was. the majority of the American public that was on board with gay marriage. I do agree that there was a blip, that what happened was this. And I kind of thought the same thing. So first time it comes up in Michigan, I vote against it. But then as it's kind of going along, you Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: you you kind of got this swell and I kind of thought, well maybe it's fine. You know, they should have a way. If you've got a gay partner, you should Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: be able to have a way to get into the hospital to see you know, what whatever all the red herrings were that they were throwing up. But then what then what America found out, especially during COVID, what happened was we had these ideas about how we you know it was presented to us on all the sitcoms, Will and Grace, Modern Family, gays are harmless, homosexuality's fabulous. You can love whoever you want to love. Okay, so we're fed this over and over and over again, and Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: we think maybe maybe they're right. They just need this. And then what we find out when COVID hits, the public schools. without realizing it. Suddenly everything's open. Suddenly parents are looking at what's going on. They're seeing what these what these schools are teaching their kids. They're seeing the gay porn that's in elementary libraries and they are starting Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: to realize and then trans comes speeding up. And then Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: pedophilia comes speeding up and all of a sudden by and large Twenty five percent of Americans that he's talking about are looking back at the conservative Christians who said if you don't keep this fence at the top of the hill, everything's going. And you know the people like me who got a little wobbly on that for a few years are looking back and saying, They were right about everything. I didn't Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: think necessarily at the time that they were, but they were. They were right about everything. You can't flout God's law. You reap what you sow every time. That's what Yo, it's Carrie: Hm. Todd: I think. So that's my opinion. Todd's not ready for a gay president. But other than that, and I have a difference of opinion on what's causing the the slide. And that and listen, I have Yo, it's Carrie: What do you have a problem with a gay president who's married or do you only have a problem or do you not have a problem with a gay president who's single? Todd: You mean like are you saying like if Hillary Clinton had got elected Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: and she was married to Bill, but everybody knows what's really going on, is that what you're saying? Would I have been okay with I was never okay with Hillary at all. Lock her up No. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, I know. Todd: no, it has nothing to do with that. It it i here's the deal. If homosexuality is immoral, it has zero Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: to do with marriage. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Mm-hmm. Todd: In my opinion, now because i i i whatever the morality is to a committed relationship would have zero to do with homosexuality. Do you know what I mean? It or anything else. It's just i if any kind of committed relationship is fine, Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: and that's what defines the morality of it, okay. But if morality is defined by God Yo, it's Carrie: okay. Todd: Well then I I mean you're right that when it comes to heterosexuality it seems to be defined and hedged in by by a committed relationship. But but it's pretty I mean, listen, if people I and and and I'm okay, I have I have gay family members. Then I love them. We don't sit around talking about whether they're gay or not. I don't care necessarily. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: I'm talking in a macro principle point of view. We have a disagreement about the principles. Yo, it's Carrie: I know, and that's where that's where it's charg that's where it that's why it's difficult. It's why it's a difficult and I gonna say I don't know if it's a gray area as much as just a challenging area to to fence in, like you said, or to include, or to exclude. It's it becomes difficult because we know people. I know people in long term committed gay marriages or relationships who I don't know. I feel like they have healthier marriages than many heterosexual couples I know. You know what I mean? It's like Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: it's not I think that it's it's hard. You're talking when you're talking macro, it's it's hard not to and that's why I struggle with it because the people I know, it's like, well, they're not they're not crazy and extremists and whatever. They're just living their normal lives with the with the person they love. Todd: I'm not saying they're all crazy and extremists. I don't think that at all. I don't in fact, you know what? I wouldn't Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: even say, in my humble opinion, I and there would be people who disagree with me maybe, but we do Beers with Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Jesus, obviously. So again, guys, Wednesdays, check out Beers with Jesus, where we're walking through the Bible. In my opinion, could you be gay and be a Christian? Sure. You could be proud and be a Christian. You could be all kinds of things. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: The difference is that we've taken, for whatever reason, we've taken this biological imperative of sex that we all Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: deal with and hormones. Yo, it's Carrie: Yep. Todd: And we've elevated them above everything else. And we say, so if our body tells us this, it's Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Yeah. Todd: gotta be right. And I'm just saying Christianity doesn't say that. Christianity says it doesn't matter if it's some life force out there that's saying it. The life force may be a creature and perhaps a fallen one. What matters is what God says. So what does the Bible say? And and and there there may be people, and I wouldn't necessarily listen, there there would be people who would say, Listen, I look at that stuff and I in the Bible and I I put it in with head coverings and with other things and I think it's just cultural. And I and Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: I and and I the that's a reasonable position. I can tell I can say to a person like that, I disagree with you, but that Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: doesn't mean you're not a Christian. It just means we have a little a different, you know, a a different interpretation of what's right and wrong, just like Catholics and Protestants would about things. We trust that once Christ comes back he'll sort all that out. Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. Todd: But whatever sorting he will do will be right. And it will have zero Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: to do with any committed relationships that we had or stories and tales that we told ourselves. Do you know what I mean? And that doesn't Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Okay, sure. Todd: mean I can't love people right now. I got problems that may or may not be me being gay. But I'm trying to decide if America's ready for a gay Todd's world. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: No, my point is that you can be a Christian and have struggles. The problem Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: is when we start declaring things that other generations would have called struggles and we redefine them into normal. Do you know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: And it and and we think we think that that's the only way we can be loving. And I just don't buy it. I disagree with my kids on lots of things. I don't have to agree with them on everything. We don't even Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: have to agree about everything in the Bible. We don't. One of my kids just be converted to become a Roman Catholic. I don't know why you would want lawn statues of Mary as part of your faith, but she does. So so you could my point is you could agree you could disagree on homosexuality too, Yo, it's Carrie: It's an amazing it's an amazing thing. It's an amazing thing. Yeah. Yep. Todd: and still we're all followers of of Christ, Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: but you know, we just have to that doesn't mean that my view just because I'm not ready for a gay president, you know what I'm saying? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Todd: It's not that I'm hateful of all gays, I'm not at Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: all. I just recognize it as a struggle rather than saying no, it's not anything you have to struggle against at all, actually. Yo, it's Carrie: Got it. Okay. No, I understand what you're saying. I understand where you're coming from. Todd: Like don't struggle with alcoholism. Embrace it. It's good. Maybe. I don't know. The Bible doesn't seem to say that. That's all I know. Yo, it's Carrie: Gotcha. So can I know that I know you really wanted to him you wanted to discuss the last point there that he made, but can we just briefly go back to the language thing that he talked about? Because that was really interesting to me. Todd: Yes. Yes. He did make a good point there. That was a fair point. Yo, it's Carrie: It was. So what I mean, what I understood, tell me if I'm wrong, is that he said the word queer has been adopted by the younger queer community the Todd: Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: word queer as an acceptable word. However, the older generations, view that as a a really like threatening slur. Todd: Not taking into account that the older generations themselves first changed the meaning of the word gay and queer. I'm just saying. Perhaps language is somewhat fluid. And perhaps when you Yo, it's Carrie: Right, but it is. Well that's what I'm saying. Todd: take it and you try to bend it to your own physical desires, other people might take it and bend Yo, it's Carrie: okay. Todd: it to their own political desires. Do you know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Well sure. But is that did I understand that that's kind of that was he's he's saying? Todd: Yeah, that's what he was upset about. He was saying that that essentially what he's saying is that they they take it to where the language is meaningless. Because what used to mean something, what used this this term queer Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: that within the alphabet community had some something that they felt like they could get a handle on, that it meant something. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Todd: It's like gender now. It just it becomes meaningless. It's like C. S. Lewis talked about the word gentleman, how it used to mean back in Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: England that a man had land. And he had and there was a certain definition to it. And he said, then Yo, it's Carrie: okay. Okay. Todd: everybody decided that it should just mean somebody was nice. Now we already had the word nice, but they took a word and they gutted it of all meaning and it became pointless. The word doesn't have any value at all anymore. A word that once did. Because it doesn't mean anything. Because we already had terms for nice people. We didn't need another one. Yo, it's Carrie: No, I'm gonna disagree with this. It does. No, but today if we just use the word gentleman to describe somebody, that does have meaning. It might not be its original meaning, but it doesn't mean it's meaningless. Todd: Okay. So they're the same thing with queer. Yo, it's Carrie: So okay, so yeah, I just want to say queer, I wonder if I wonder if that small percentage of the younger community adopted that word or wanted to use the word, kind of c reclaim the word in the way that the black community kind of reclaimed the N word to take the power, the negative power out of it. Do you know I mean? Todd: Yeah, I think that works with with the black community and the N word. I'm not I think on the other end, I actually think Yo, it's Carrie: Uh-huh. Todd: what they're trying to do is they're just trying to find a way to piggyback onto the alphabet community, which is I think what the Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: trans have done. I and I do think listen, I should say I do Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: think there's a point to the fact that if if the if the gays had not openly embraced the trans like they did, I think he's right that that it w that the approval for gay marriage wouldn't have been in the free fall that it is. I thought at the time they're they're kill first of I I should start I think that it was a flawed. The entire movement's flawed to begin with. And doesn't have a very strong foundation, what little foundation they had, they gutted by bringing the trans in. And and and then all of a sudden it becomes obvious to everybody this is all just one big charade. This is all just we do whatever Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: we want, we call ourselves whatever we want, and there are no standards and therefore no real definitions or meanings in life. You know what I mean? Everything's fluid. Yo, it's Carrie: And yeah. Well and I feel like this is the same this is the same thing that I'm gonna call them traditional Democrats are experiencing. And that is that a few extremists come in and just paint paint a picture that is doesn't that isn't representative of the the foundation of that group. Right now you've people running as de they're communists and they're traditional democrats who are just like, wait a minute, like this isn't what we stand for at all and I feel like Todd: Well, you carry Carrie just unwittingly led into another clip. She didn't even know this clip was out there, guys. This is how good she is. what's this guy's name? Chaz Mulder. He is a. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. I feel bad for them. Todd: That's how good Carrie is. Carrie's right. Yo, it's Carrie: Thank you. We don't even practice. Todd: You're right in the on the extremes of the party in the blue states. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: But in the red states. They're more subversive. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: This, what I'm gonna show you right here, is a 30-second ad for a Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: for a congressional Democrat. He's not an incumbent. Not an incumbent. He's running against either it's an open seat or he's running against the Republican. I'm not or an incumbent Republican, I'm not sure which. Could be an open seat. Point is this is a Democrat ad in the fifth district Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: in Tennessee. This district Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: Trump carried in twenty twenty four by eighteen points. That means Trump won Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. wow. Todd: the district by nearly twenty points. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: And right now it's a toss up. And let me show Yo, it's Carrie: Wow. Todd: you this Democrat's ad and you tell me what you think. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: What do you think? Yo, it's Carrie: I think he sounds like a conservative. He sounds and looks like a conservative. Lower taxes, clean up corruption? Hello, I'll vote for the guy. Todd: Mm-hmm. now, let me tell you something about Chaz Mulder. And this is true Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: of every single Democrat. I don't care who they are out there. And I don't care what I don't care whether they're AOC or whether they're the Muslim commie in Michigan Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: or whether they're Chaz Mulder trying to come off like a Christian family guy. Who, for all I know, he might be. One thing I'll Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: tell you about Democrats is once he gets into Congress, he will vote down the line with the lunatics every single time. Time there will be nothing moderate about any of his votes or any of the bills that are put on that. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: They will vote, he will vote while he's smiling, while he's sitting at dinner with his family to destroy America. And he'll do it smiling just like that. Because he doesn't give a damn. And he'll lie Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: to your face. And that's the Democrats are crowd. Now listen, it's probably way too many Republicans, and right now some people think it's Trump. I don't know. But I'm telling you for sure. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: 'Cause I've watched I've lived for f over fifty years in my gay lifestyle. I have friends. Got their queer heads bashed in No, I'm just Yo, it's Carrie: Are you ready for gay news? Todd: kidding. No. Somebody's gonna clip that. Yo, it's Carrie: I know, right? It's like you definitely cannot take any of this out of context. Okay. Todd: I'm you every time you can think what you want about the Republicans, they are not monolithic in how they vote. I wish they were more monolithic in how they voted. I wish they Yo, it's Carrie: Well I know, right? Todd: had some more party. But the Democrats, the Democrats vote together as a block, and it doesn't matter how crazy the bills are. That's just I'm telling you, that's forty-five years of experience. Yo, it's Carrie: I know. Right. Like, don't you think like if he were running for governor, it would be different. If he were running for governor. But these these Todd: They're all still the same. Kentucky's lib governor was just as bad. I mean they're just horrid. But they come off as folksy Midwesterners. Yo, it's Carrie: But I but I'm just saying but I'm just saying I feel like a governor looks out primarily for the state. Whereas these like, you know, these congress congress people, Todd: They would have a little more flexibility. Yo, it's Carrie: congresspeople, senators, I feel like they just get into yeah, they just get absorbed into whatever. So the kind of like majority rules within their within the Todd: Uh-huh. Yo, it's Carrie: the muck there, unfortunately. I appreciate his he probably believes it, Todd. Todd: He probably does. He probably believes he's Yo, it's Carrie: He he probably thinks he can Todd: gonna be Mr. Smith going to Washington, but I'm telling Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: you he won't. I'm telling you, like a Yo, it's Carrie: I know. Todd: ninety-nine point eight percent certainty based on how Democrats have been ever since I've watched him, he won't. He will fall into line and pull the lever for whatever Nancy Pelosi's clone Hakeem Jeffries tells him to. Yo, it's Carrie: it's it's sad. Yeah. Todd: That's all I'm telling you. I I don't care what they say, I don't care if they sound like JFK reincarnated, they will vote with whatever they're told to vote for as soon Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: as they get there. And I don't know what I don't know how they how they have such good party discipline, but Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: Maybe the beatings continue until morale improves, I don't know. All I know is they have that that that's a hundred percent fact on the Democrat side. And then on the Republican side, you have people who would be would have would died in the would would have gone to the mat defending Trump and now are doing things like Marjorie Taylor Green here. Yo, it's Carrie: I might be with her on this one. She's at the gas pump. Todd: I don't disagree, but I just don't believe this bitch. Okay, yeah, I don't disagree. People are pissed. well, if you're so principled, why'd you quit your congressional job? Why'd you leave the fight, Marjorie? If now you're so convinced that Yo, it's Carrie: I know Yeah, why is that? Todd: the guy that you were dead to rights on was was the savior of the world, now you've turned on with Tucker and everybody else 'cause he's controlled by Jewish space aliens. You're insane, Marjorie. Even if I don't disagree with you on everything that you say every time, but All this is is this is this is all for show. This is the social media world of I don't wanna stay in there and fight for my newly changed opinion. I just wanna quit and make social media videos. Okay. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, it's she she must have she must have felt like she could get more done outside of their I I don't know. It's weird. I she's she's crazy. I I was g yeah, you're right. She's she's a crazy I know, Todd: No. She felt like she could make more money outside of there. Which is saying something for Congress Yo, it's Carrie: right? Well she if she had been on the other side, you know, the we've said the Democrats really know how to side gig. yikes. Todd: Well, the Republicans aren't doing bad either. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Is there any way we could like pause for coffee? Thank you. And then and then I wanna complain a little more about gas prices when we get back. okay. Todd: Take a break, yes. Let's take a break. Let's pause. If I can figure out how. Right now I'm trying to figure it out. Me too. I've got I've actually got an article we'll read about younger voters that swung to Trump. We'll get to that when we get back, guys. We'll be right back. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. no, I bought some more yesterday. Okay. Todd: Welcome back guys. Sorry. here's that article. The article I want to get into. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: And Carrie, I feel like you'll have some strong in fact, you what? I'll share this on the so you guys can read with me if you'd like while I read. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay, cool. Todd: if you're watching. Young Voters did not elect Trump for this is the is the headline on this Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: real clear politics commentary. Rich Barris who I think is a pollster maybe, Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: is and I think a pretty good one, is is the author. And so I I wanna I'm gonna read some of this, Carrie. You have, as do I, some younger voters at home that are are Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: churlin and who voted for Yo, it's Carrie: That are what? Todd: that are our children that voted for Trump and Yo, it's Carrie: children, yes. Todd: so we we may have some opinions on this as we go through it. So break in whenever you feel so called. Okay, we're Yo, it's Carrie: Okay, chime in. Thank you. Todd: I'm gonna start this a little bit just so because I think this is true. I think this is a big thing that's going on out there right now. Yo, it's Carrie: Mmm. Todd: Everything Republicans thought they knew about young younger voters who backed them less than two years ago is wrong. That's Rich Barris's Hookline. Conservative pundits and consultants have had an almost bipolar misunderstanding of these now disaffected Americans. When President Donald Trump made his historic political comeback in twenty twenty four, a slew of right wing commentators repeated each other's claims that Zoomers were just more conservative than their previous cohorts. We remember hearing that, right? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yep. Todd: That was news to us given big data poll was met with fierce skepticism leading up to that election, explicitly because we led the industry in identifying trends indicating that the president was making significant gains with younger non white voters. Some of these very same consultants argued that our trends showed little more than a polling mirage, the result of higher sampling errors for subgroups. Their slowness in coming to the realization that these trends were in fact very real has only been rivaled by more recent attempts to reconcile that rightward shift Yo, it's Carrie: you Todd: in 2024 with events that have transpired since. Now, following the rise of the DSA, the Democratic Socialist of America, that would be the Muslim Commune Michigan, Al Sahid, that would Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: be AOC, the squad, and declining support for Republicans among these voters, many of those same commentators were are dismissing the pleas of Gen Z as the grievances of lazy socialists. Those dismissals are typically prefaced by a lecture on how to pull yourself up by the bootstraps, quit looking for handouts, learn how to cook at home, and stop buying $20 burritos. Okay? You hear that going on out there, right? Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. Yeah. Todd: We can revisit the wisdom of that message at a later time. For now, Let's just start by pointing out that neither of those two contradictory claims is true, nor Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: does either of them sufficiently explain why these voters are abandoning the president and his party's candidates less than two years after supporting them. To hear them tell it there's no coalition fracture in this story at all, but that too is false. During the years in between President Trump's first and second non-consecutive terms, to include the relevant months leading up to the election in November 2024, big data poll ask voters about his retrospective approval rating. This gives us some more apples to apples juxtaposition for key demographic groups as opposed to the more commonly cited apples to oranges exercises, blah blah blah. Let's try to get into this is the I know. Yo, it's Carrie: You can tell this is written by a pollster. Todd: This is the co this is the coalition fracture that's happening. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: What's driving these younger voters to abandon Republican candidates they supported on a limited basis, and what did they expect or what do they want? So what's driving Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: them away from Trump? Donald Trump was not re-elected after dozens of felony indictments because he enjoyed improved margins among more conservative baby boomers and voters in the silent generation. The president was re-elected fairly easily in a historically moderate electorate because of a significant rightward shift among voters below the age of sixty five to include millennials in Gen Z. So that definitely happened in twenty twenty four. There was a big Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: shift, right? Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: These younger voters did not these younger Americans did not vote for Donald Trump to go along to get along or to return to the same brand of Republican politics they associate with starting foolish wars and destroying the economy Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: just as many of them were trying to get started in life. To them that was the Republican Party made unalive by Bushism before President Trump came along and raised it from the dead like Jesus raised Lazarus from the tomb. Yo, it's Carrie: Wow, Barris is getting like, I I know that's interesting. Todd: He could have just he could have left it with raised it from the dead. They care nothing for ideological litmus litmus test and loyalty to their dogmas, nor do they value leaders who take principled losing stances that never improve their lives. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: These young Americans saw Donald Trump and J.D. Vance as their last chance to correct the listing of a sinking ship. To right the wrongs done by a system that failed them repeatedly. They call themselves moderate only because they reject labels, but make no mistake there is little moderate about the views of these younger generations. They are radical, reactionary, and dare I say revolutionary. They believe institutions revered by both sides are hollow and serve only to perpetuate a system that is rigged by an old order that feeds itself first and calls it governance, while they and their fellow citizens get shafted. You think that's true? Yo, it's Carrie: 100%. And, and I'm Todd: One hundred percent. Yo, it's Carrie: going to go out on a limb and say that while these, yeah, this is a good spot to pause here. Well, these, adjectives used to describe them, reactionary, revolutionary, where was the other one? right radical. Well, Todd: Radical, reactionary, and dare I say revolutionary. Yo, it's Carrie: while those are inherent to that, you know, younger age group, Todd: Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: The rest of this, the rest of this about feeling like the institutions are hollow. The system is just being perpetuated. They're serving themselves and we're getting screwed. That, if that's a description of the young, then I'm going to go out on a limb and say, I think that our generation also feels this way. Those of, yeah, a bunch of us, because we're not seeing the changes. Todd: Yeah. You you think that mo the the people who that are getting the most benefit right now from Trump are boomers like Trump, who've got houses paid off where the values are skyrocketing, they've got the biggest stock pork stock portfolios, which Trump is obsessed with stock prices, Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: and they can absorb the inflation that we've dealt with easier than younger generations, right? Yo, it's Carrie: That could be, but I feel like that's circumstantial. I don't feel like that was Todd: Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: Trump's, that's Trump's like mission. Todd: I don't think it's circumstantial. I don't think it's Trump's mission either. I think it's Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: a reflection of the fact that most of our politicians, especially in the Senate, are boomers or older. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Okay. So it's like, it's a, it's a byproduct of the age of our leadership and the, and the system as it exists today. That could be. Todd: Yeah. Yeah. And they've and they've controlled by and large they were the biggest they they were the biggest voting block and they were able to Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: and and and they're they've got what they now I think it's gonna I I don't know what's gonna happen when the wheels fall off. And they're gonna die. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: They're on the they're in the process of dying. Over the next ten not not I this one, I love you boomers. That's not what I'm just saying, over the next ten to fifteen years that generation's Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah Todd: gonna die out. It just is. Yo, it's Carrie: So Todd: unless AI is as amazing as we all think. Maybe not then. Yo, it's Carrie: Unless we all can have Jill Biden as our personal, our primary care physician. Todd: Well listen, I hope we get some radical things and that the Aunt Nancy and the Darrells can live for another fifty years. It'd be fabulous. And and they'd Yo, it's Carrie: Right? Right? Todd: be right on the cusp of the steep curve, I hope. But Yo, it's Carrie: But here's what I'll say is different here that concerns me. We are old enough to, well, even though we, how do I say this? We're old enough to know that even if this is the case, we trust smaller government, lower taxes. We trust that mindset of the conservative side more Todd: Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: than the other side of the IELTS policies. we, even if we feel like we're getting shafted, even if this all just seems like, my gosh, this fricking system is just perpetuated. We're probably going to stay where we are. My concern is these reactionary young kids who don't understand that this stuff takes time. Todd: they are absolutely not staying where they are. Yo, it's Carrie: they're not, they're going to be like, it. They're going to throw everything out the window and they're going to say, well, they're going to be open again to listen to new promises. And the new promises are from Democrats, socialists, and that's scary to me. What do think? Todd: Mm-hmm. A hundred percent I agree with you. Let's let's read a little bit more. Because he's Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Okay. Todd: gonna get into this too. They elected so the the younger j the younger voters we're talking about. They Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: elected President Trump and Vice President Vance to burn it down. They did not get the retribution they were promised. And Republicans were suddenly baffled because these voters had the audacity to expect what they were promised. Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. They're so young and idealistic, isn't it beautiful? Todd: They thought they really meant it. Yo, it's Carrie: Like we, you know, we listen, we get excited, but we don't really expect anything at all. Todd: No, I I got more from Trump in his first hundred days than I thought I'd ever get. Yo, it's Carrie: We've been beaten down over like, throughout our lives. Okay. Todd: But plainly President Trump and right-wing coalition candidates who rode his coattails were elected in 2024 by a younger, more diverse coalition than previous Republican coalitions. Yet the Republican majorities governed as if they were elected by a shrinking minority of boomers glued to Fox News. Yo, it's Carrie: Mmm. Todd: As a result, the Republican coalition is now shrinking, along with the share of voters who identify with the very brand that made being a Republican cool again. Since November 2024, the percentage of voters who identify as America First Mega has declined most significantly for younger non-white voters. Older white voters are the only demographic to report increased identification. That's remarkable given they are precisely the voters who did not identify with a movement in November 2024. Older Yo, it's Carrie: Interesting. Todd: white voters do not want to upend the system that was designed to benefit them at the peak of their golden years. Yo, it's Carrie: Damn. Todd: Understandable. This chart simply tracks the president's second term approval, blah blah blah blah blah. We're we're not gonna get into these charts. yes, go ahead. I just want to see if there's anything left. Go ahead. Yo, it's Carrie: Can I throw something out there while you look? Okay. I just want to say that I hate it. It's difficult. It's difficult. We all want what we want, but I hate the mindset of voters who only vote to benefit themselves. Like you've got to look at the country as a whole and the population as a whole. And that's what I've said before. Our country is huge and diverse. It's just enormous. It's hard to have policies that you know, make it, you know, that are for everyone. I just, ugh, I just, hate that mindset. Todd: If Republican this is how he's this is how he ends it, and then we'll figure we'll figure out if he's right, which I've afraid that we think he is. If Republicans Yo, it's Carrie: why I like the America first thing. go ahead. Todd: if Republicans do not re embrace The platform and agenda that put voters first instead of returning to the grand old party that prioritizes perks for special interests and wars for foreign lobbies, younger voters will find another instrument of change. They will Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: find someone else to be their champion. Republicans are trying to conserve an order that is already doomed. With or without them, these younger Americans are going to burn it down. If Republicans insist on remaining on the wrong side of this thing, They'll burn what remains of Trump's coalition down right along with it. Yo, it's Carrie: Ouch. Todd: So yeah. That was something. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, I don't care as much about, I mean, I don't care as much about Trump specifically, Todd: Let me read you the Yo, it's Carrie: but I just care about, you know, I care about... Okay. Okay. Todd: Let's read one other thing that's gonna go along with us and then we're gonna and then we'll talk about this. This is Steve Dace. I talk about Steve Dace a lot. I listen Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: to his show. He's on the Blaze. and I I enjoy him. He'd be both Christian and conservative. Okay, this this is a tweet or a post that he put out two days ago that Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: went viral with about two or three million views. This is what he says. And he's really plugged in, especially to Iowa. He's he's ex that's where his show's based. He's extremely Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Okay. Todd: involved in the political landscape there. He helped run Ted Cruz's campaign, Ron DeSantis campaign. This guy's he's not just a j he's he's really involved in the grassroots ground level of it. Okay? In addition to having a show. He says yesterday, Iowa House Republicans were informed by their own polsters That if you were in a plus fifteen district, that means if you're in a district that Trump won by fifteen points in twenty twenty-four, Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: you're within the margin of error right now in this midterm election. To yeah, and going into this election, it's been Yo, it's Carrie: like, right now. Got it. Okay. I see. Todd: that big of a sw a fifteen point swing. Yo, it's Carrie: Shoot. Todd: In Iowa, corn country. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: If you're in a plus ten district, you're underwater. And that this might end up being in even worse midterm environment than 2006. I slept on whether to share this publicly because I don't want to cause anyone to black pill, but this morning I ultimately decided the truth should be shared while there is still six weeks left to do something about it for the good of the country. Because if the environment is this bad in my home state, where Trump has been the most popular political figure over the last decade, I can't imagine where it is everywhere else. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Todd: Whatever we're doing or not doing in Iran, Hormuz has become a twenty twenty COVID lockdown level of a political albatross. This is approaching tarp bailout levels of unpopularity in my home state. We are risking what's left of the Trump presidency on this because if Democrats take control the legislative branch, the Trump domestic agenda we all voted for will largely cease between what a Democrat Congress will do and courts have already been doing. Not to mention what it will cost individual states like my own, which have worked so hard to make so red these last twenty years with Trump's help. This Whatever kind of sorta but not really war has become an existential misuse of political capital. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Many of us never thought it was worth it, and more and more it appears, voters agree. We have to save our own country and our own way of life first before we can save anyone else. We have to save America before we can save the world. If a plane is endangered, you are told to put on your own mask first, otherwise you're of no use to help save anyone else. I desperately want us to win. I desperately want this presidency to fulfill all the great promise it had coming out of the twenty twenty four election. But whatever this currently is, isn't it. We don't have to just sit here and take it, take the L. It doesn't have to end this way. We can still win. There's plenty of ammunition to hammer the Democrats with. We need the president out on the stump ASAP. We need better and way more aggressive messaging. Stop running fake and gay ads about how often so and so shows up for votes and instead mercilessly hammer Democrats on the wickedness they're voting for. Articulate specifically Yo, it's Carrie: There you go. Todd: what the mission victory is in Iran Hormuz, because out here in the cheap seats it feels like another Middle East war quagmire regular folks are paying for on both ends all over again. And for heaven's sakes, Make sure Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas are getting the finest healthcare in America. You get the Yo, it's Carrie: Damn. Wow. Todd: Okay, Carrie, with those two pieces in perspective, what do you think of the coming midterms? Well, you've got young kids, what do you feel like the the the feeling is on the ground? Yo, it's Carrie: Well. Todd: Do you th you think they both hit it and they're right? Yo, it's Carrie: My kids aren't impacted by like the the swinging and the activism and all of that. Todd: Okay. Yo, it's Carrie: I mean my my sons I know feel like they're still this is my guess we haven't really talked about it recently but they don't like the economy right now gas prices Todd: Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: suck but I think that they still feel like the Todd: How do they feel about Iran? Yo, it's Carrie: you know, we haven't talked about it, but Todd: Okay. Yo, it's Carrie: I'm sure they don't like it. Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: I'm sure they don't. but they're still in that camp of, Hey, the other party is basically making us like to feel less, to feel guilty about existing and being white and male, you know, that kind of stuff. Like that's, Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: that's, I think has probably shaped them for a while. Todd: Okay. So they're at least hanging in there. you know, Lor Lor my Yo, it's Carrie: So what about you? I would think so. Todd: lovely daughter Lauren Allen. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Loren Allen music on Instagram is a singer songwriter, fabulous singer songwriter. Yo, it's Carrie: So good. Todd: Has another gig tonight we're getting ready to go to on the other side of the state, which I'm excited about. If you are in well, never mind. This Yo, it's Carrie: Yay. She's on tour. It's like tour. Todd: doesn't drop till Tuesday. There's no point telling you when it is. Yo, it's Carrie: shoot, okay. Todd: Anyway, my lovely daughter Lauren, for much of her high school, much much of her high school years, maybe into the Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: very she had the Trump twenty twenty flag on her wall. She had pictures of Trump all over her walls, she went we went to rallies together in twenty twenty Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: and twenty twenty four and she was all on board. And she has since become a fan or at least was kind of a under the influence of Nick Fuentes and therefore is not Yo, it's Carrie: boy. Shocking. Todd: a not a Trump fan now. now we don't again we don't talk about it a ton either because Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: we have we we come down a little different sides and but not that we don't get along. I'm just saying we don't Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: but I don't think yeah she would she would think no Trump's so I think I think she would think Trump ended up being just another Just another politician. No different than any of the rest. That that he was Yo, it's Carrie: Yep, think they probably feel that way as well. They just aren't changing camps. Todd: No. And and I don't I'm not saying Lauren will go vote for a Democrat. I don't know that I don't think that she would at all. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: I hope she wouldn't anyway. But Yo, it's Carrie: I don't think so. Todd: but man, I I think what Steve Dace and that article I think what Steve Dace just I mean listen, I put out a a a video this week saying the same thing, saying there's there's problems and and Trump needs to Get out of Iran. I I mean, Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, he does. Todd: just leave. I I don't know what we're doing there. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: We a year ago you went in, you remember, and we blew up and we did like a midnight thing and we blew supposedly Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: we took care of their nuke program, and next thing you know, a year Yo, it's Carrie: Yep. Todd: later, we're in there and we're just hanging out. But Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: what I mean, to what end? To what end? I I just don't I I'm telling you, Trump's I this is disappointing to me. I love Trump. People know I love Trump. I feel the same way right now Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, it is very disappointing. Todd: that I felt in 2020, which is what are you doing? Like, why are you turning over the country to lunatic bureaucrats to shut it down, destroy your economy? I didn't understand Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: it then. I never understood it. Why are you pushing poisonous jabs? I never understood it. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: I don't understand now why i if you've got some grand design, articulate it. I I just don't it if the idea is we just can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon, well that would was the case a year ago and you said after one midnight run that we set back. Now we've Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: been there for what, I don't know, seven months? Bombed the hell out of them, there's nobody left and we haven't set back enough yet. What Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: are we trying to do? It are you trying to take over Iran? Are you just running a siege? Okay, how long's the siege gonna last? Are we gonna run a siege for four years? What are we doing? And then what Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: happens when they all starve and die? Then what are we gonna do? I I'm just trying to figure out what the point is. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: So why is diesel at a record level and you know what else drives me insane is watching these listen, I got I felt Yo, it's Carrie: no. Todd: I I'm something of a right winger myself, as we all know. But so I I I have a fair amount of that I might Yo, it's Carrie: something of a right winger. That could be like a little caption on it. Todd: Something of a right winger. But man, I see these right wingers on X and they're like they'll post things like Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, what are they saying? Todd: Do you understand that oils close below a hundred dollars a barrel way more times under Trump than it ever done under and I'm like and that the the the there's a conspiracy to destroy Trump's presidency by the big oil companies and I'm like okay Yo, it's Carrie: my gosh. Todd: he's still the president is the thing. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: You know what I mean? And I don't really care what the price of oil is, I care what the price of gas is. So Yo, it's Carrie: Same. Todd: and what I know is that when Trump a year ago the price of gas was half what it is. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, this is tough. This is really difficult. Todd: The price of diesel was a third of what it is. So you pay for it while you're driving everywhere. You're gonna pay for it in every product that you get because they all ship via diesel. Yo, it's Carrie: every product. Yep. Todd: So you're spiking the cost of products, you're spiking the cost cost of travel, and all for what? What do you think it's for, Carrie? I mean they that you know of that Trump has articulated what is all this for? Yo, it's Carrie: I don't know. That's what I was gonna ask you. I'm like, Todd, what? Okay, yeah, what more? What more do we, yeah, what more do we have to do? Todd: To stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Has Iran been nuking a bunch of people? Kim Jong un shoots off rockets all the time. Trump called him rocket man Yo, it's Carrie: Ha ha ha. Todd: and stepped across the thing and shook his hand. We didn't say Kim Jong un can't have a nuclear weapon. I I mean listen, I don't want the lunatics in Iran to have a nuclear weapon either. I would like a little consistency and message here. What what's the difference between last summer and this seven months? d debacle that is the what is going on and why? Why Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, I don't know. Todd: can't one of the greatest communicators we've ever had in public life communicate that? I would like to know the answer, you know. I don't Yo, it's Carrie: What do you theories? Todd: I I I I don't know. Yo, it's Carrie: I mean, do you think he's struggling? Do you think he's concealing the plan? Do you think he's, do you think he's been, he's been corrupted and he's no longer looking out for us? Do you think, I'm just trying to think of all the scenarios. Todd: I'll tell you what I'm I I I I'll articulate the best I can one of my fears that I haven't necessarily put a lot of thought into as far as condensing it and articulating it. But w one of my Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: fears is that Trump looks out at a debt that's at forty trillion dollars, at Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: rising interest rates that it doesn't matter what he does because the debt's so high. I d I don't think I think that Trump feels I I think Trump's Really concerned that we're boxing ourselves in to an economic calamity. And I think he's Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: I think he's trying to pull levers to do what he can to prevent it. I wonder Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: if this is gonna sound strange. I wonder if he's even intentionally tanking it in what he perceives to be a controllable way. Because I'm not Yo, it's Carrie: dang, like a controlled burn of like a field or something. Todd: Yes. I'm a I'm afraid but and i if that's the case he could never articulate it and he'd be given up the midterms and he'd be sacrificing a bunch of things because him and Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Scott Bessant are gay treasury secretary. Are we ready for a gay treasury secretary? We already have one, and he's fabulous. And he doesn't ever talk about being gay. He's just a f Yo, it's Carrie: He's the best. He's the best. Cause we don't care. You talk about it. Todd: he's just a fabulous treasury secretary. Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. Todd: Like I think that's a good example of what you're saying. You don't care whether he's gay or not. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Yeah, but I I do I I that that concerns me. It concerns me because Trump's so good at articulating things that when I see him seem to flounder, it Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: it makes me a little nervous. Either that or he just is he's just prone to getting tripped up by the deep state and I I w I maybe what makes me the most nervous is that he's cut a deal with some Rhino Republicans that are gonna protect him on impeachment and he just decided that the sist that everything he promised with the with the system isn't really gonna be able to be done and he can't burn it down and he's just changing it to whatever ends he thinks he can. I mean that I I I I guess that I don't know. There's a bunch of things that it doesn't make any sense. Yo, it's Carrie: It doesn't, I was going to say it just sounds so weak and he's not weak that way. Todd: No. Yo, it's Carrie: Hmm. Todd: But I I think that I do think there are some economic forces that he there's no easy way out of. There's no easy way out of the the housing. We're we're in for a housing correction. And that's gonna hurt boomers and homeowners to have their homes paid off more than anybody. Now if they if they look back and they don't Yo, it's Carrie: if they're moving. Todd: if they don't consider the fact that Six years ago their house was worth half as much. I mean, you know, there are such a thing as bubbles. Yo, it's Carrie: Right, right. Yeah, it's it don't it only hurts if you're if you're moving. Todd: But the other issue is that the deportations have not now part of that's the courts have have opposed them at every end. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: And I I'll be honest, I Yo, it's Carrie: Mmm. Todd: don't know there are fundamental structural problems with America that we can't deal with if we're not willing to stand up to a rogue court system, and that I can see Trump is not. And if Trump I mean, d the other thing that worries me is if Trump's not willing to stand up to him, hell I can't imagine anybody who would. Yo, it's Carrie: No, no, will. No, we're not Todd: Mean I'm Todd's world isn't getting elected, I can promise you that. So it it it just Yo, it's Carrie: even invited into the press room. Todd: I think Trump Yo, it's Carrie: I don't know, Todd. Todd: Trump's thought is that there there's only one s I think if I were able to crystallize what I think Trump thinks is that he sees some things down the road economically with now listen, he contributed to a lot of the debt, but that he thinks the our only option is to grow our way out of it. But he's Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: got a really juice growth. And I think Yo, it's Carrie: here. Todd: that my my hope is this is just this is hope because he hasn't said this. My hope is that he's doing everything he can to reorient the entire global oil trade around America. And and that what and that Yo, it's Carrie: Right. We talked about that early on. I forgot about that. Todd: that what he's trying to do can't be easily either articulated Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Or understood and digested by today's electorate. And and he sees the pain as worth the gain. And I can't imagine that the pain is just regime change in Iran because who the hell knows what the next re th the the problem with any of them over there is what difference does it make if you take Saddam out when you get Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: the next regime's a pro-Iran regime? Like who cares? What what are you getting in its place? You know? I I just Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Are they ready? Are they ready for a gay? Todd: A gay president in Iran. They just threw one off a building. Holy shit. It's their best candidate. Their best gay candidate. Sharia law, they threw him off a building and stoned him. Yo, it's Carrie: You Todd: Odd. They don't seem to be ready. Yo, it's Carrie: I'm sorry, that was terrible. That was terrible, sorry. Todd: So when Steve Dace ends it with and for heaven's sakes, make sure Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas are getting the finest healthcare in America, Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: that shows you that we're not in a great spot coming into this midterm. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. what Steve Dase has, he's yeah, like you said, he's very involved. Do you think theoretically that this is a post that Trump will see and read? I would say yes. Todd: I'm sure. It will at least get to it'll get to Trump or to to Don Jr. or to Eric or to Susie Wiles. Somebody close enough to Trump that if they want to get it to him, they will. And if Trump doesn't correct and doesn't do anything, Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: then one of two things I think are true. Either Trump's sold out or what Trump me Yo, it's Carrie: I have a really hard time believing that. Todd: me too, and I'm hoping he hasn't or what Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: Trump is trying to accomplish he can't i the the American people he sees some icebergs out there that he has to he thinks that the pain that America is gonna endure right now will lessen what could have been a real bad fall later on and that Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: it's worth I mean that's my hope. That's what you'd hope out of any president that they would do. You know Yo, it's Carrie: Sure. Todd: what I mean? That that even if we can't understand but but I'm telling that but the you know but you have to be willing to do some other things with that. See, Abraham Lincoln was willing to do that, Andrew Jackson was willing to do that, but they were also willing to defy the courts. And so you you're gonna have to Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: do some other things, otherwise you end up stuck. So the things that you believe have to be done, like mass Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: deportations or or whatever it is. Aren't gonna get done if you don't defy the courts and and we and the courts need to be defied. How are the court how are the courts supposed to enforce any of their rulings? Does the Supreme Court have an army? Do they have a police force we don't know about that's gonna go out and enforce their dictates? Everything is enforced by the executive branch. Congress has money. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. but it's dangerous. Todd: I don't think it is. I know we're t we've been fed that our whole lives and I think we've been fed that by a system that controls who those black robed unelected judges are. And I don't think it's true. Abraham Lincoln didn't Yo, it's Carrie: Right, but it's a different time. Todd: Andrew Jackson didn't. FDR kinda didn't at times. Yo, it's Carrie: Abraham, they didn't have a instantaneous mass. Todd: FGR packed the quarter. They didn't like the ruling, so we put more of on. Yo, it's Carrie: my gosh. But they didn't have at that time, at those times, a mass media, instantaneous mass media Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: influence that was portraying every decision as, you know, catastrophic, as detrimental to the people, know, illegal as illegal. Todd: Was it Plato Was it Plato or Aristotle? You're gonna have to go back. You're better educated Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: than I am with your Hillsdale education. That said that democracy Yo, it's Carrie: Ugh, those two. Yeah, go ahead. Todd: was the the the death of of a republic or something like that. Something along those lines. Yo, it's Carrie: gosh. that might, I was like, that might be Plato from Plato's Republic. Is it from Plato's Republic? Todd: And and I think they're right. And and so when you so what we've had with social media is w is now instantaneous reactions and everybody on and so you're starting to get a Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: sense for democracy like unbound, unchecked, unfiltered. Do you know what I mean? And and it seems like Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: it's it seems to me like we're in kind of a or we're or we're approaching and maybe and maybe in an era where People are perennially pissed off at their government. And it just switches back Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: and forth, party to party, which who's ever in control, then they're pissed off at that one, they're pissed off at that one. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Because the f the the problems we're trying to deal with are so structural and so foundational that what would be required of us to solve them, Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: the electorate is not willing to do. I mean if you're boomer and you got ten or fifteen years left, why would you want to tighten your belt? Do you know what I mean? And and there's just you worked for this your whole life. And I get Yo, it's Carrie: Right, Todd: it. I'm not I I'm not I understand it. You worked Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah Todd: for this your whole life, you got your retirement, you got this. W what are you supposed to what are you Yo, it's Carrie: Right, I mean we should be... Todd: supposed to give up for the future of America? Do you know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Right, and they shouldn't be asked to do that. Todd: Well, what if what if Yo, it's Carrie: I mean they shouldn't. Todd: what if it's existential to America? I mean, would would we have ever broke Yo, it's Carrie: Well, then there's no controlling of it. Todd: away it would have always been more comfortable for every almost everyone, like that owned businesses and farms and everything else, to just remain English colonies. Right? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: It just would have been a lot more comfortable. And how almost 50% of the population wanted that. They didn't want the some war for independence. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Todd: They didn't think we needed it. You know? They didn't want Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: their fields burned. In fact, they were on the side of the of the English. You know, you had Tories Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: and whatever. So it's always going Yo, it's Carrie: Hmm. Todd: to be but you know, it's awfully difficult. If I was seventy five years old, I would have a you'd be you'd have a hard time convincing me on the revolution that was afoot. And I'm not blaming Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. Yes. And I think a revolution, Todd: any of them. Yo, it's Carrie: and I think a revolution is different today in 2026 or 2027, eight. I think a revolution is different now. And I don't know what it looks like. I mean, we talked Todd: I don't either. Yo, it's Carrie: in, you know, in my household, I say like your most powerful tool is your vote. Todd: Well you're right. Yo, it's Carrie: in Todd: And I I I well, maybe. I don't know without the Save Act if that's true or not. That's a sad thing. Yo, it's Carrie: I know I was going to say, I'm like, even that is under, is, is under threat. So it's, it's difficult to, it feels like a weak statement. It used to be this like strong patriotic, know, wonderful sentiment, inspiring kind of sentiment. And now it's kind of like, well, Todd: Sitting here right now, end of September. Yo, it's Carrie: it depends on where you are. Are you in Detroit? If you're in Detroit, it doesn't really matter. Yeah. Todd: So right now where do you think we're heading for the midterm election sitting here end of September? I mean things can change. But but if if if things remain like they are, what do you expect to happen? Yo, it's Carrie: mean, yeah, I think gas prices in Iran are going to determine how well we do. And voter turnout and election integrity. There we go. Todd: But but if but but if it if it remains the same, if gas is still five dollars a gallon or four fifty or whatever, and we're still I mean I i i i we're Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: still in in i if the landscape the political landscape looks like it does today, which we're only six Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: weeks from the election, Yo, it's Carrie: my gosh, we are! Where'd September go? It's crazy. Todd: So what do you think? Do you th do you think that the Democrats will win the House? Yo, it's Carrie: I mean, I don't know like what the numbers are and all that. I Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: don't know how big a leap Democrats have to win to take control. Todd: Well, it's not it's a narrow margin right now. It's only it's a single digit Yo, it's Carrie: if it's Nick. Todd: three or four ho three or four seat margin right now. Yo, it's Carrie: well then it's, yeah, then it's like pretty bleak. It's pretty bleak if things are the same. Todd: The Senate the Senate's probably not as bleak, although the Senate just starts off and remains bleak. The province of vampires like Mitch McConnell. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. And Todd, my question for you is, regardless of what happens, does it even make a difference? Todd: Well, it makes a difference because the first thing that a Democrat House is gonna do is impeach Trump. And then they're gonna haul Rubio in, and then they're gonna haul Vance in, and then they're gonna haul Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. gosh. Todd: Hagseth in, and they're gonna impeach him, and they're gonna do every Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: single thing they can to tie up everything they're trying to do. And that's on top of the courts already trying to tie up everything that they're gonna do. And Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: on top of the fact that we already know that whatever else Trump is, he lacks a little bit of backbone when it comes to telling both the Congress or the courts to F off. So w lacking that, Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: the Trump Revolution I think would be effectively over. So now maybe we would look back in 2028 and we would say, well, it actually worked out because they felt like the Democrats were too crazy and they went back to Vance and you know, who knows? I mean we don't know what we don't know what will happen or what will be, but as of right now it looks to me like it looks to me like Trump has Is in the process of throwing away the second half of his well everything other than one I mean his first year Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: of his second term was was great. His first hundred days were amazing. And Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: he kinda s and then everything just the wheels kinda came off. Is is is what it looks like. So Yo, it's Carrie: Right. And Iran's not helping. Yeah. It's tough. Todd: I hope that I hope that turns around. But Yo, it's Carrie: I hope so too. Cause I just feel like if we, if we go the next Todd: I don't think it will. Yo, it's Carrie: two years just thinking, well, the swamp lives on, it's like, Todd: I think we will find that. okay, let me I wanna Yo, it's Carrie: Damn. Okay. Todd: let's switch gears. That's enough depressing shit. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay, go vote everybody! Todd: We're almost done for the day anyway, but I wanted to run this by you and see what you thought of it. Yo, it's Carrie: and pray for Michigan that they don't end up with a communist senator. Todd: With what? you know, I've got some great Michigan ads against the Muslim commie. I should th they're I could play they're pretty good. Yo, it's Carrie: gosh. It's so crazy. Those of you who are not in Michigan, it's so nuts. You got it. Todd: Do you know who Dabbo Sweeney is? Yo, it's Carrie: I'm sorry, what's his name? Todd: Dabbo Sweeney, the head coach of Clemson football. They won a few national titles. Yo, it's Carrie: yeah, I Clemson. just wasn't familiar with him. Is he related to Sydney, sweetie? Todd: Okay, Dabbo Sweeney. No. But he is a he's a Christian, big Christian guy. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: And he has been one who is not on board with the recent changes to college athletics with NIL and everything else. And and therefore, well, well, Yo, it's Carrie: nice. A purist. Todd: but but but as a result of his purest of being so pure, the Clemson has stopped winning. Certainly winning like they were. Like they just they they I mean w when you're Yo, it's Carrie: damn. Okay. Sure. Todd: in an environment where it's semi pro and you pay your rosters, if you don't, probably you're not gonna win. If you didn't spend the money in the NFL, probably you aren't gonna win. You know, that's kinda how it goes. Yo, it's Carrie: It'd be so great. It'd be so great if they were winning, if they were getting just salad. Todd: I think you can you can get that a little on the lower levels like Western's kinda like Western Michigan right now has a team Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: that had a bunch of guys that could have gone elsewhere for for money and they kind of stayed and they've got a really good team. But but but that's on a you know the Mac level. It's hard Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: if you're one of the big guys, man. You know, because the Macs Yo, it's Carrie: Clemson, yeah. Todd: already can't compete with SEC or whatever. Well anyway, this I think is interesting because this Yo, it's Carrie: Damn. Okay. Todd: This made the rounds out there. This particular clip did it. Most of what I saw on X when I saw it retreated is people praising Dabo Sweeney because he's such a good Christian and this is what we need. We need guys who are gonna stand up and tell the world and the sports idolatry world what really matters. So let's let that but I want to know what you think about. Let's listen to what to to Yo, it's Carrie: Okay, you sound sarcastic, so I'm kind of worried. Like, where is this going? Todd: Well to be fair, this this this question is in reference to listen, you're losing and your teams kinda suck in this new era. What are you gonna do? Are you feeling the pressure? Are you feeling the hot seat? You know what I mean? And let's hear what Yo, it's Carrie: okay. Gotcha. Todd: he has to say and then we'll talk about it. Yo, it's Carrie: You Todd: Okay. What do you think, Carrie? A lot of people really like that. Can I say Yo, it's Carrie: Okay, can I say two things? Todd: two things? Yeah, you can say as many things you want. Yo, it's Carrie: One, I love that he knows exactly who he is and what's important. I love that. Todd: Uh-huh. Yo, it's Carrie: And he says it boldly. Number two, are you a fan of the movie Jerry Maguire? I love the movie Jerry Maguire. Todd: Yeah. You had me at hello. Show me the money. Yeah, it was a great it's a great movie. Yo, it's Carrie: show me the money. my gosh. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. Side quest. I have to tell you, I saw this, I'm sorry. I saw this hilarious. this was in like a group chat. Someone shared a meme that said, take a famous line from a movie and add you piece of shit at the end of it. And, that was what, that was one of them. You had me at hello. You piece of shit. Wax on wax Todd: You had me hello. That's funny. Yo, it's Carrie: off. You piece of shit. It was hilarious. Anyway. Todd: That is funny. Mm-hmm. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay, Jerry Maguire, love the movie. I can't help but feel like this might be his Jerry Maguire moment and they're gonna fire him because while this is noble of you to say that, you know, what your beliefs are, if you are the head coach of a major team and you say you don't care about... winning and you don't care if you ever win another football game. I feel like, you know, he's going to a couple months from now be saying it was just a mission statement, you know, that's how I feel. Todd: See you're kind of you hit where I'm at on this is that I saw was a bunch of people praising him because this is this is you know this is a this is a sign of the ongoing Charlie Kirk long statue revival and Yo, it's Carrie: Sure. Sure. Yeah, I get that. Todd: and and he's a being a Christian and listen a lot of what he says is 100% true but Yo, it's Carrie: Yup. Todd: it's the context I wonder about. I I'm I I'm a builder, okay? And if and if someone hires me Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: To say build them a shed. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: Not that I build a lot of sheds, but I'm saying Yo, it's Carrie: Sure. Todd: if somebody hires me to build them a shed, then Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: I, you know, I I listen, I'm a Christian and I love God, that's where my peace comes from. And then I build Yo, it's Carrie: Uh-huh. Todd: them kind of a shitty shed. And then they say to me, Yeah, but this sheds Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, that collapses. Todd: like the doors aren't even square and it doesn't shut right. And if my answer is, you know, my peace comes from God, Yo, it's Carrie: You Todd: there's nothing you say to me. God's still on the throne. What what why would I get praised on social media for that? Would they be like, this look at how look what a good Christian Yo, it's Carrie: I know, exactly. Todd: he is. No, I'm just a shitty builder. Who wants to sound like a Christian? God Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: says, Whatever you do, do it heartily, do it well as unto the Lord. Listen, this is the new era of college football. I don't like it any more than anybody else. But Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: you know what? If you don't want to be part of it, quit. You're Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah Todd: worth like sixty million dollars, Dabbo. I don't think that you're out there sacrificing Yo, it's Carrie: Do think there's more? Todd: for Jesus at your seven six million dollar a year job and you can just say, Well, I don't care what anybody thinks, I got God's on the throne. Yeah, God's on the throne he expects you to be a decent frickin' football coach or not. Or maybe you're you're it's time for you to do something else. You know? Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Was there more to it? Is this taken out? It kind of doesn't sound like it. It sounds like this was it. Okay. Todd: No, that was that was where he went. Yo, it's Carrie: I didn't know if he was going to say, now, Todd: No. Yo, it's Carrie: do I want to be the best coach I can be? Yes. Do I want my team, you know, to be rewarded for their hard work? Yes. Todd: Well Yo, it's Carrie: Like is. Todd: here's what I'll say, it doesn't matter what he said after this because this is what went all over the world. Do you know what I mean? Like so and and this Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. This, this could be his exiting mission statement. Todd: is what all the Christians were putting up and saying, look at this. This is a football coach who's on board with the revival. Really? That's what we got? How about a winning head football coach who loves Jesus? Could we trot Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: one of those out? And maybe he still has peace. Maybe God's still on the throne even when you win. I just don't that was my Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: that now listen, maybe I'm a contrarian, I don't know. Yo, it's Carrie: Nope, think that's, I think that that is fair to, fair to expect. Like you said, he's, yeah. Todd: And we live in such a polarized age, social media age like you're talking about, that all people see is the this very surfacey thing and they think, Well yeah, what he said sounds good. Well, of course what he said is right is the but the context is way off. Do you know what I mean? It'd be like Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Right. Right. Todd: asking a person in the middle of a divorce who's having an affair and they're doing whatever they want. Well, are are you worried at all about what No God's on the throne still Whatever happens, all things work out together for good. Well, maybe not exact maybe that's not the context. I don't know, what do you think? Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, I think I like your builder analogy. I mean, we expect if you're in the context of your profession, especially one that impacts some, yeah. does he? Okay. Todd: Jim Gaffigan does it a bit. You've probably heard it. And he and he does it on on Jesus. And he's talking about, I mean, let's talk about Jesus. You know, it's like at the end of one of his things. And he and he talks about he talks Yo, it's Carrie: yeah. He's hilarious when he talks about religion. Yeah. Todd: about some Roman Catholicism stuff because he's a Catholic. It's kind of funny, whatever. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: He's like, it's like they're dragging out church on purpose. Which I totally feel. my God, do I feel. Yo, it's Carrie: Church services are shorter than any other one I go to. Every time. Okay, go ahead. Well, because we don't have a 30 minute concert on the front end. That's the difference. that was Easter, right? Yeah, that one's. Yeah, it was the Saturday. Yeah, the Saturday vigil of Easter. That's like Todd: Maybe, I don't know. I went to a three hour night service where I was eating my own legs is what I know. But Jim Gaffigan does a thing. Yeah. No, it was it was Lauren's thing where she got like into the church, whatever that is. I I yeah, I didn't know what it was. Yo, it's Carrie: seven hours long. Okay, go ahead. Todd: So anyway, Jim Gaffigan does a bit and he's like, you know, Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: Jesus was a carpenter. And he's like, what if he was like a really shitty carpenter and he's out there like working on a shed and he's like, I'm the son of God and they're like, yeah, well right now you're building a shed and that's funny, but I think there's truth in it that I see I Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: don't believe I think Jesus was a great carpenter. 'Cause I think he did all things well. I think that's what we're called to do. We're called to take Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: our gifts and and do better with them. You know what I mean? To go out and excel. Not not Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Mm-hmm. Todd: and y and listen, it's not that it's just I felt like when somebody asks you why are you losing, why are you bad at your job and your answer is well, I'm a Christian, it doesn't matter how good I am at your job, I think I don't think that's true. I think you're missing the entire point. Like you missed something Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Mm-hmm. Todd: along you don't know God and you don't know how he works. I mean, probably Dabbo does, but I'm just saying. That's what I feel like when I see somebody do that. I think Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: you don't that's not G that's not Jesus in the Bible. He's not like, Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: yeah, go do shitty at whatever else you do, and don't worry, you're fine as long as your tickets punched. That's just not He came Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: to bring the kingdom and Yeah, we're called to do things well. We shouldn't give people reason. And and the other thing that bugs me is that if you're if you're the unbelieving world Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: out there, that's not shining your light. They're looking at you thinking the same thing I am. No, you're just a shitty coach. If anything, it Yo, it's Carrie: yeah. Todd: hurts the cause of Christ, I think, in that context. Yo, it's Carrie: Maybe what, what is his first name? Dabo. Is it like a, okay. Can I defend one thing? Cause as you talked, I thought about Todd: Dabo. Yeah, Dabo Sweeney. I don't. Yeah, go ahead. Defend Dabo. Yo, it's Carrie: where he's, well, I just thought about why he probably did that just from a human perspective. If they're struggling, the team struggling, and this is Clemson, which you know, was like national champs. I mean, were they like two years in a row or almost two years or something? Right. Todd: Kapu, there was two or three years in the last twenty that they've been national champs. Yo, it's Carrie: I mean, it's when they had our, the Jaguars quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. So, mean, Todd: Yeah. yeah, he was climbing. And they yeah, he was real good. Yo, it's Carrie: so when you're talking about a team like that, and now they're struggling and he's standing up there being questioned by, you know, the, the press, I'm sure that what came out, you know, he believes it, but I'm sure that what he did was in a moment of feeling a little helpless. feeling a little, you feeling defeated. I'm sure that he Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: went to his go-to for his piece. And the fact that it came out in that context and he didn't balance it with, you know, what his desires are to achieve as a coach of Clemson, I think he just was kind of spilling what he was going to for his own, for grounding himself or reminding what's really valuable. So on the spot, I think that's what he did. Todd: Okay. Okay. Then you may be right. And and and and listen, that's fine. I just I I didn't you know what I mostly Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: didn't like? I didn't like the response. I didn't like how Christians were posting it and putting it up because to me the context was off. That wasn't I'd I'd show that to me in i i i Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Right. What you're saying is people's embracing it. Todd: in the pattern of someone with excellence. Or hit it the other way and and just talk about suffering. I'm fine either way. I understand. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: And you know what if Dabbo had gone there and but this and there's periods in life that are difficult where you're trying to do the best and they don't go the way that you'd like to. You know, there was ways Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: to communicate that that would have been good and appropriate and Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: and really shine the light of the gospel. i i the way that he did it to me, it's just I mean it's it's your excuse for why you don't have Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, I hear you. Todd: to to come up to the to to to function in the modern times. And if your answer is well the time shouldn't be like this, I'd I agree, but you know it is. You Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: could be a carpenter who thinks you know we shouldn't use nail guns. Well, okay, you're gonna be a lot slower than everybody else. I I don't know what to tell you. So listen, next Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yep. Todd: week, or not next week, the next time we come back, because this is an evergreen Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: topic, I want to do some AI stuff. We don't have time this week. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Okay. Todd: But I have a great video. There was a guy who Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: asked one of these big AIs to to kind of create, generate a video that's like three or three and a half minutes long predicting the next fifty years for humanity and AI. And it's it's Yo, it's Carrie: Whoa! Todd: wild. But then what I want to do on top of that is I have a John Stossel thing, you know, the ABC reporter talking about AI, but it's like a one of those six seven minute long clips that would take us a while. I want to do that next time, guys. So Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Okay. Todd: don't don't let me forget, Gary, the steep curve of AI. What I want to end with today, you know Yo, it's Carrie: of AI. Okay. Todd: who Tim Poole is? You do, don't you? He's a podcaster, Yo, it's Carrie: Temple Todd: yeah. He has the Tim Cast is what he calls it. Yo, it's Carrie: I know the name, but I don't I don't listen it. I don't know him well. I've heard the name Okay Todd: I don't listen to him either. He has a beanie on all the time. You'll probably recognize him when you see him. He had a guy on talking about Flat Earth, one of my favorite subjects that I think are always kind of fun. I do. I love the Flat Earth stuff. Yo, it's Carrie: nice. Flat Earth. That's great. Todd: So listen, this guy's name he's called Flat Earth Dave. And he's gonna in this clip he's gonna tell us kind of how he got into the whole thing. So if you guys have it i listeners, if you have no experience or or context for the flat earth thing except that they're all a bunch of wackos on the level of like Mormons, then you Yo, it's Carrie: You Todd: know, we're gonna y let's see what we've got here. Okay, here he is. He Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Flat Earth Dave. And now he's called Flat Earth Dave. Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: That's hilarious. That's so funny. Go down the rabbit Todd: I love that. Flatter Dave. Yo, it's Carrie: hole, friends. That's interesting. Todd: I've got a few more I got a few more videos of Flat Earth Dave. A few more clips. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: Yeah, I wanna find him. I thought this was pretty good. This is where hold on, I got two more here. where he and this is on Timcast. So if you guys want to listen to the entire program, Tim Poole at Timcast on on X, you can find him. He's a he's a big podcaster. And you you can find him wherever. And so I have not listened, but I'll tell you what, I don't listen to Tim Poo all the time. Not for any reason. Just, Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: you know, there's only so much time. And I'm gonna listen to this podcast this week. I wanna hear what I wanna hear what Flat Earth Dave here's here's here he is talking about the sun. Which I think is kind of interesting. What he says about the sun. Let's hear him here. Flat Earth Dave again on the What do you think, Harry? Yo, it's Carrie: Interesting. know I've heard, I've heard people claim that and then I've heard them say that, yeah, that's a myth. Todd: I feel like I I've been lied to my whole life since elementary school. That's what I thought. I was like, these bastards have been lying to me. Yo, it's Carrie: I feel like all the models of styrofoam balls of our like solar system are just false. No, I don't know. It's really interesting. It's really. Todd: Let's one more clip on the Flat Earth with Tim and in Flat Earth Dave, and then we'll call it a day. Hold on. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Todd: I gotta share it, guys. You can't just stop start talking. They think they can just go. It's a whole it's a whole technology here. No AI, none of the time. Yo, it's Carrie: You're doing great. Peak authenticity. Todd: Beak authenticity. Okay, Flat Earth Dave and Tim Pool. That's a good line. I never heard that. Yo, it's Carrie: Me neither. Todd: This is the only thing I've found, guys, that makes any sense of what we're doing in Iran. I just want you to know. This is the best I the best I've got. Yo, it's Carrie: you Todd: Mm-hmm. Bastards. Yo, it's Carrie: my gosh. Todd: Outer space is a myth. Elon is a space alien. Yo, it's Carrie: Mitch McConnell is immortal. Todd: That's a sad thing. Yo, it's Carrie: Wow, you know, I can be pretty crazy with the beliefs of potential Todd: You're not ready. Yo, it's Carrie: that yeah. Todd: I I I'm tell you I gonna I'm gonna listen. Guys, I gotta know I gotta listen to this episode of Timcast and see what Flat Earth Dave is all about. So Yo, it's Carrie: I'm going to go look up and see if Flat Earth Dave has ever been on blurry creatures. Have you ever listened to the blurry creatures? Todd: I've heard you've mentioned it before and therefore I've seen it once or something. So we're gonna look into Flat Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, I wonder flat Earth days ever. Todd: Earth in two weeks from now, guys, we're gonna get back to you with whether or Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. Todd: not Earth is a globe. We will have the definitive answer. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Are we going to see, how's James Franco doing? Is James Franco like, has he, has he, no, they, they took him. He got Todd: you know, he's fallen off the radar. I haven't heard anything from him. He probably got killed by the aliens in his garage. Yo, it's Carrie: abducted. Todd: They were like, look at that shirt. That's a nice painting shirt. We can use that up here. With all Yo, it's Carrie: Yikes. Todd: our technology, we've lost the ability to have old t-shirts. All stretched out and ripped. We lost a part of our heritage. Okay. Well, listen guys. Yo, it's Carrie: thank you for sharing that, Todd. That's so funny. There's just something for everyone out there. Todd: I love it. I I you know what? Maybe th th maybe this is the answer to everything. Yo, it's Carrie: Maybe it is. Todd: To Tartaria is controlling Donald Trump. Maybe Donald Trump is a Tartarian. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, an Agartha or an Agarthan. What was it? Agartha. I'm sorry. This. Wow. Todd: guys, we gotta look into we gotta look into it. We we gotta find out what's what's what. People been lying to us our whole lives about everything. Yo, it's Carrie: I know it's possible, it's very possible. I want to thank everyone who comes and listens to us and gives us the chance to talk about all this. Thank you. Todd: Yes. All you young people out there think Trump's lying to you. The whole world's Yo, it's Carrie: Ahem. Todd: lying to you. You don't even know. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, never know. Todd: Thank you guys for listening. We did Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: for sticking with us. Come back for beers with Jesus tomorrow. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, definitely. Todd: I think we're in Genesis seventeen, I think. Carrie's favorite Yo, it's Carrie: Yes, it's the Holic Circumcision. Todd: subject is circumcision, so she's gonna have a lot to say. Yo, it's Carrie: No, I don't know what to say about it. Todd: She's what do they call those Yo, it's Carrie: Yikes, it's a big yikes. Todd: what do they call those thing those people in the Jewish community that like circum they're like a Yo, it's Carrie: Moils. Todd: moyle, yeah there it is. See, I don't even hardly know. Yo, it's Carrie: Do you know why I know that? From Seinfeld. Yeah. Yeah. Todd: Why Seinfeld, yeah, that's why I know it too. Except I forgot it. Thanks for joining us guys. Toddsworld.net is where you find the books. Listen, check us out on the social media, Todd's World 2023, TikTok, Instagram, Yo, it's Carrie: Yep. Todd: X, YouTube. And share our clips. We put clips out every week. We're only gonna grow if you tell your family and friends what a wildly entertaining time you have. We learn Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: about flat earth. Like, are gays ready for the flat earth? I think is the next question. Is a gay president ready for a flat earth? Yo, it's Carrie: It's Tartaria. Todd: There's so many things we get into. Thanks for joining. We've Yo, it's Carrie: my gosh, I wonder how many genders there are in Tartaria. Todd: not even begun to scratch the surface. Alright, guys. Thanks for joining us. 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