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Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 372:7-372:14 · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, ready. OK, we're doing good morning,
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  Chavez, Irving Shin I In BET. Sorry, it's me again, it's
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  Joseph. OK.
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  So we're continuing with the EVE Zine and just a reminder, this
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  Suman we're talking about basically you've got two
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  adjoining. I'm not sure if this helps, but
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  whatever. Basically you got 2 adjoining
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  this one, two adjoining hatzeros.
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  Basically you have two hatzeros. It could be more, but we're
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  basically trying to join two together and each one, let's say
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  has a wall around it to make it a Rashhosayaki.
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  It could be a gate, it could be a wall, let's call it A.
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  Basically we're talking about four walls and they're connected
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  and each cut its own house or group of houses who who may make
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  their own arrow. But the case is you want to join
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  one cutter to another. So from this group of houses
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  they want to be able to carry into the other people's groups
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  of houses from one cutter to another.
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  But we have a wall and there's no way to get through.
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  The only way you can make an arrow to join to Hutseros, right
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  two groups of houses attached to their own Hutser is if there's a
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  PETA, there has to be some kind of an opening where you can walk
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  through. That's the only way you can join
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  them. So that's what we're trying to
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  figure out. We have to be a complete wall,
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  and there's no PETA from 1 Hutser to another Hutser.
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  There's no way to make an error if you make an error, obviously
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  around the whole city. So then that's including it, but
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  Okay. So how do you get from 1:00 cuts
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  there to another design need for at SEC Hotel?
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  So you have a complete wall between them but then part of it
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  breaks apart. So odd Sr.
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  Almos Hare who Quepeta if it's the opening that breaks is now
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  going to be less than 10 almost. So that's a proper opening and
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  right where the wall is falls apart where now there's less,
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  it's less than 10 high. We're going to see that Who
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  Shiloh yeh, Nifrat's Bimiluo. But it can't be where the entire
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  wall between the two hutzeras disappeared, because then
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  basically then it's not an opening like a doorway.
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  It's not a PETA, but it's a it's a complete opening.
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  And what you basically end up with is 1 giant hutzer, right?
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  If there's no wall in between, you would need at least on one
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  side. We learned this already for TWA
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  him, or at least a Mashu on both sides to separate them and then
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  it's called an opening, but it can't be more than 10.
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  Okay. But we'll show you a near frots
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  in low in near frots Be a Terminator Khatsu Khatser Akhasa
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  Srukhim, Ari bhat that you can't even carry if it's one giant
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  cat. Say because you only have three
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  walls. The course you can you ain't
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  been in the hits a gabo assara, the srichin are of Yahat or the
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  wall in between the two hats arrows was never a proper wall.
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  It was never tent Fuck him high and therefore you have one giant
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  hats there and the only way to carry from your bite into the
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  hats there or more than dollaramas within the hats there
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  is if you you join them all together or you make a proper
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  you build a proper wall. Hotels chavenge de hatzeros
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  gavoisarras with shaneam. Now there's going to be another
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  way to connect them. So one way is to to to join 2
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  hatzeros is you break a portion of the wall of Dal et twach and
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  wide. That's basically the case we
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  just had and now you have a doorway.
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  So then once you have a doorway you can keep them two hatzeros
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  completely separate or you could combine them.
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  In other words, you have a choice in the previous case.
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  If you have two hatzeros next to each other and each hatzard has
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  its own button, then you have a choice.
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  All those button can only carry within that hutzer.
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  Together they can make their own a roof, or they have a choice of
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  joining up with the other bottom of the other hutzer and then
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  they can each carry all the way into each other's houses and
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  both hutzeras okay. So here again, cut koto
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  shobenste hatzeras kavoa Starr lish name.
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  You have a proper wall in between them, they and me, they
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  tell Koto Sulam Rakhav Arbaa. So now instead of making a
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  proper doorway that we're used to like the door, a gate that
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  opens up, you put up a ladder the can connect though the hats.
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  Rashnia. You put up a ladder on both
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  sides of the wall. So now the ladder is acting as
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  your doorway, which you have to have a ladder on both sides and
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  the ladder has to be at least for it's fucking wide in order
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  to be considered a doorway right A feel in a Sulamodza connect
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  zel in in the name shosha Hashi de Capetta.
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  Now both ladders on each side have to be either opposite each
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  other exactly, or they can be even not opposite each other
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  exactly as long as one edge touches the other edge or it's
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  within 3 fucking of each other. However, if it's more how you
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  move. Plugging Zoe connected Zoe,
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  Shilosha. What if they're farther apart
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  than three fucking from each other?
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  So there's nodes in love with. They don't connect.
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  However, in Mac Hotel by the way, this wall in between the
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  Caceres, Depending on your case, the wall could be a thick wall
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  that's four fucking wide or thick.
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  Or it could be less than four fucking.
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  And if it's less than four fucking, it's generally going to
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  be considered a Malcolm Pouture, right?
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  It's above tent fucking. It's a wall above tent fucking.
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  And if it's a four by four so then it could either.
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  It was dependent on the situation, it could be a richer
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  Sayakid or a Carmalis. But let's probably it's just a
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  Yahoo in general. It's above 10 from the floor
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  okay. But we'll see Depends on the
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  case. How you remove log in Zet
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  community connected Zoshlosha if the two ladders are separate
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  from each other more than three twahim.
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  IMA Kotto Rahavar Ba AA A dying hashuvim Capetta.
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  If the wall is 4th fucking thick and basically it becomes like a
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  hallway or a corridor from 1 sulam to the other one ladder to
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  the other ladder. We ain't Noraka, Barbara,
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  Lokhashi, Quepeta. But if it's less than four, it's
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  fucking you can't walk on there. It's on a walkway and therefore
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  the ladders must be connected to each other at least within three
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  talking a Is this sulam? I don't know.
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  What kind of a ladder are we talking about?
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  K she a star Ashley Low, Okay in Keynes, Rotov.
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  We should talk to be those and less the entire ladder,
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  including the the rungs with the sides.
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  A complete ladder, right? Shaz Cove Del Cobo.
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  If it's heavy then it's good enough.
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  It has to be where it's difficult to move.
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  And if it's got 4 rungs or more, we consider it difficult to
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  move. So and if it's really light,
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  like, I don't know, just a two step ladder or a chair, it's
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  easy to move. That's not good enough as to be
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  where it's, it's big enough or heavy enough that it's difficult
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  to move and then it's then that's good.
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  The Inak Hotel, Gavoa Ella Asara.
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  If the wall is exactly 10, it's OK.
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  If so, I'm Gavoa Shiva, Oma Shiva Mesh Akarba Itzac Hotel.
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  If the minimum size of a wall is 10, so we're going to the
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  initial example is if the wall is exactly 10, right?
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  Since that's the minimum, then the minimum height of a salon
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  has to be 7 and something so that the top of the and it has
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  to at least be 4 wide for that entire 7 and a masher and and
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  then then it's considered reaches the top of the ladder
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  and it's a full walkway and it's like a proper petarch.
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  So then, one or four steps. Yeah, you have to have four
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  steps close enough. 774 steps or it could be less and you it
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  could be heavy and you can attach it with the nail.
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  But it all depends. These are like minimum.
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  So it depends on the situation how it all plays out.
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  It doesn't. Need to get to the top of the
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  wall? No, it does not need to get
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  that's. Rungs that you can step over.
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  It needs to have enough rungs We're going to see.
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  Basically the rungs need to to keep it simple and clean.
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  The rungs must be within 312 of each other and basically what
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  the shokhanar is saying. A wall could be as tall as you
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  want it to be, but the ladder has to be as tall as the wall or
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  within the height of the wall of just under 312 so that.
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  You can actually use it so that you can use it.
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  If this every then every step can't be more than 312 then it's
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  not considered a walkway. The wall is 20 right?
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  So then it has to the the the soul on has to be 20 or within
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  3. Fucking with 20 could be as as
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  high as the Empire State Building Okay material Bain le
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  Stamish. I love Bain Larave Yahad.
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  So once the ladder reaches the top of or close to the top of
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  the wall then you can now use the wall to put something on it
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  and you can even consider that a proper doorway and you can make
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  an arrow from one to another and walk across cave on Shalom
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  Shlosha Rosh Akhotel. The main thing is it can't be
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  with it can't be farther than three twakim from the top of the
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  of the Kotel Okay Akar Kulia. Now just you're going to see
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  this in a moment. In order to be a proper Petac,
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  to make an arrow from one to another, the Soulem has to be
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  within 3 twakim of the top of the wall.
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  But in order to use the top of the wall just to put something
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  on it, it could be. It doesn't need to be within
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  three because it's not a walking doorway, it's just you're just
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  using it. We'll see the case.
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  But just so you understand, there's there's a small
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  distinction with that one. OK, Akar.
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  Julio Mirosh. Hakoto Lomato.
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  Migova, Asara. Himeshwa, Meshek, Arba.
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  Let's say you have a wall that's exactly 10 high, and you carve
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  out four the whole thickness of the wall of a width of four
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  Fucking. So you make yourself basically
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  like a walkway through the wall, and you're lowering it.
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  So now this, this four fucking is less than 10 fucking.
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  So now that's considered. So now the wall is for those
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  412, you basically eliminate a wall and you're basically
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  transforming that into a Petac. Let's see Akar, Julia, you dig
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  out. Mirosha, Kotel, Lamato, Migova,
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  Sara, Imish, Mesha, Harba. So Mehani, Bein Nasotte PETA
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  Laarev, Yakhar, Beining and Shays.
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  And you can use the entire wall. If it's Ford's fucking wide okay
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  we in angle Arba. And if it's not Ford's fucking
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  wide Aino Hashiv Kepeta, Ariev Yahat, then it's not a it's not
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  a proper PETA became ain't a moil Ishtamish the K So then you
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  can you can put things on there, but you can't.
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  You can't use the entire you cannot use the entire Well okay,
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  I think that's good enough. Dirsio points out two
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  explanations why it has to be within 3 Tsvacum Casanisha is
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  based on because it's not normal or it's difficult to take a step
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  higher than three tsvacum. Another explanation is because
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  it has to do with the din of Lovewood.
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  Okay, All right. Basically though, just make a
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  proper doorway or make a proper ladder and it's that's just real
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  simple, simple cases that will work to connect Ted Banna
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  Istaba. Now you're going to build a
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  platform within 3 twakum from away from the wall.
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  Has to be within 3 twakum of the wall or against the wall.
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  So then you're building a platform.
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  It's a coto. Lamato Migova Sara.
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  So now the difference between this platform and the top of the
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  and the top of the wall is less than tenth.
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  Fuck him. So imish, Barbara, Oracle,
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  Meshekha, Kotel, Ubulatit Arbaa. So now if this platform is going
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  to be a full 4 by 4 more really stymish bacola kotel now since
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  it's within tenth fuck him at the top of the wall.
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  You can now use that portion opposite the each taba to put
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  things down in, but it's not a proper doorway because the
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  doorway has to be walkable. So you need to have rungs that
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  are reaching all within to be talking with each other.
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  So it's not a PETA. The RA Yahat Achi Agia la Roche
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  Hakoto so it's not going to help you.
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  The mission Abura does point out actually that to Mahlokut in the
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  post game and he says be shot at hak you could this could even be
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  used as a as a PETA the eem Ainba Arba al Arba.
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  Now if the Itsaba is not 4 by 4 so it's not like a proper just
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  like a little thing on the road. It's in the hats there, it's not
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  a proper platform and a Moya Phillis damage connect though.
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  So then it's not going to help you to be able to start using
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  the wall to put things on. It was basically taking it from
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  1 richest to another. And if this wall is now I don't
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  know if we mentioned it, but anytime you have this wall in
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  between the two hats arrows clarify if the wall is less than
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  Ford Fachim so you can put things on top of it because it's
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  called a Makum Peturi no problem.
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  But if it's more than Ford Fachim then it's more of a Makum
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  Khashu or just a Yaki and you cannot put things on top of it
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  unless you make an error. You would be able to put things
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  on it because the hutcher can put things onto there, but the
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  problem is you have another guy on the other side of the wall
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  who's sharing that same wall. So since it's a muck on the
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  Ford's fuck, and if that wall would be 4 thick, then you can't
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  put things on there unless you make an error between the two of
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  you. OK, good.
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  Kafka, Safeo, Shishva, arbaa, arbaa.
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  Now here you have like a, I don't know, stepstool a chair or
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  something where you have where it's 4 by 4 stuff for a cup, a
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  buck container. Yeah, like a bucket based on
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  bucket. Okay, very good.
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  So basically you're putting something on the floor and
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  that's 4x4. The Gavola Koshi who who made
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  Borgova Massara. So now the point is it's it
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  makes it where it's similar to the Itstava situation where it's
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  going to now the top of this basin or whatever it is bucket
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  is less than 10 from the top of the wall.
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  So then entirely shamish me, can I get a mute.
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  So where that object is you can put things on top of the wall.
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  It's like just you know, just using that spot will be Avad Chi
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  Habrenu betit, but the cephal has to be attached to the ground
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  with with mud or some kind of cement where it makes it
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  difficult to move. It could be a nail.
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  The case of the ichtaba, the mission of Bora says it also has
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  to be attached to the ground or probably in the showered
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  ceiling. As long as it's heavy enough,
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  CSF is easy to move. In Eachtaba it's more of a heavy
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  platform. So just like a ladder we said as
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  long as the ladder has a certain weight or a certain size.
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  Also it's you don't have to attach it to the ground here
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  olive a ladder that you keep in your mouth.
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  So a ladder that I believe is just simply if it has four rungs
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  or it's it's heavy and some ladders are heavy.
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  I know I have one ladder that's you know some are very light and
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  some are quite heavy especially when they fold up or if it's
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  made of wood okay you know but Istaba al istaba.
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  Now what if you're building 1 on top of another.
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  So in Ishpetak to Narbalaba or in Barbalaba Vishwa you're
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  Narbalaba. You have to have at least an
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  area of 4 by 4 4x4. It's fucking that makes it
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  somewhat casual. That allows you to use that
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  portion of the wall next to it just as like a place to put
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  things down as a resting spot. It's no ach to use.
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  It's easy to use. It's okay and so therefore it's
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  it's you're allowed to the Ain Bains Zola Zoshloshitz Vachin
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  that there can't be one more than three fucking apart from
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  each each of us And then Mohani Lahattaly stop me she love of a
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  little mohani la mere PETA harav yahat.
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  But it's not good enough unless it's going to act as a proper
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  ladder and you end up having turns into steps so then it
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  could be then you can use that as an area good bet Z's.
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  So now Z's is let's say right outside.
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  It's based it's generally like a balcony that doesn't have walls.
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  That's the that's the normal case of Aziz.
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  OK. So let's say you have yeah we've
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  had Aziz, but so basically now you have you can have it's all
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  discussion in the tomorrow. We're showing him how to
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  understand it. Basically you can have the Z's
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  opposite each other. Let's say you have two buildings
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  opposite each other, a Rashisa Robin in the middle.
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  And now you're having the two balconies opposite each other or
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  on the same side of the richest surabium.
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  You have two right on the same side of the street.
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  You have two apartments and you have two zizium sticking out.
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  And it's also opposite each other sideways.
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  OK, so you want to connect the two so you can walk across the
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  richest surabium. So zee's I think that's the
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  case. Let's keep reading.
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  We'll see. I think it's also a what or a
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  right. It's also going to be able to to
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  adjoin 2 huts arrows. The thing though is if it's two
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  houses that are connected to each other we learned it could
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  be above tent fucking it's adjoining platform but for a
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  huts from 1 huts to another I believe any balcony to so if
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  it's just disease to another disease it might have to be
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  below 10 tent fucking to work. So that's okay.
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  That's what we learned. OK, I have to think how that
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  works exactly with two balconies.
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  Less than Nine's talking from less than Ten's talking from the
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  floor, and less than Ten's talking from the top right?
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  So Z's exactly so Z's Hayotse Minakota?
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  The H bar Barbaraba. So now it's at least 4 by 4, and
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  presumably we're assuming it has a dinner where a show's Hayakhir
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  Vihiniyaka loves Sulam Koshihu. And now Okay.
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  So the first case is right now you have one Z's and 11
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  apartment and you want to connect it to the floor.
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  So you put a ladder that goes from the bottom of the floor.
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  The bottom of the ladder reaches the floor and the top of the
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  ladder reaches this platform on top, like this open balcony,
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  this Z's, Moyo La Hot Tier Lotash, Misha Kotel.
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  So then you're allowed to you can use you can use it.
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  The ladder is on the Z. No, no, no.
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  No, no, not yet. Look at the yeah, you look at
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  the picture over here for example, it's Okay, so now moil
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  lahatir lo tashmis hakotil. So now you can use the wall, The
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  Who Shillote, Shliva Taktona Gavo Amina, RH Shlosha Loyyahe
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  Ben Shliva Shliva Shlosha. So basically that means you can
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  use the top of the disease. You just have to make sure
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  there's no break of 312 from the bottom rung to the floor or the
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  top rung to the disease. And then you're allowed to carry
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  from the bottom to the top. Luciania, Hassulam, Alghav,
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  Aziz. And that's what it means.
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  It means the top of the ladder is resting on the disease about
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  somho X lo no. But it has to be where the
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  ladder is leaning on the Z's and not leaning on the House, on the
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  the wall of the building next to the Z's.
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  It has to actually be connected. And then that creates a
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  connection. The Khal Zaman.
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  Shane Gabora, Kotel, Esrim, Tvachim.
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  The eye of the Z's es hachamanico de emiss.
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  So then you can just have another Z's in the middle and
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  that will break it up. So it's up to 10 and 10.
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  Sure. In Gogoa, Sara, a disease.
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  Below Gogoa Sara Meno Adrosha Hotel.
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  So or if you have along with the wall and you want to you want to
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  be able to put things on top of a wall.
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  So then you just have to have where every Z is within 10 of
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  each other and then you're allowed to stand on one Z and
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  put things down on the other and it's not considered in its own
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  proschutes and Nasser. So then it's smoother as long as
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  it's within tent fucking. So so then sorry, Shane's
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  zeesing. So then if it's 20 high then you
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  if or more you're going to need to have at least two zeesing
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  Ercat Beto, Hassara, Taktonym. So you have one within the
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  bottom 10 the Ercat La malami menu.
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  The Tokh Asara Hallou because once you have more than 10 then
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  sulam of a kosher who's not not enough.
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  Who shilayo Aziz in zeke? Can I get zesh sulam mizet
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  lassette? I don't know if I sent a picture
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  you want to show. Show me your picture.
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  I don't know if I had this picture.
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  I can't. Find this.
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  You want to show me the OR put it here?
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  I don't think I have a picture of that one.
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  Original 110 Something from less than 10 from the wall, less than
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  something on the top. The ladder is leaning on the
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  Z's. The ladder cannot lean on the
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  wall. And here's the case of.
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  Two season. I'll show up.
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  Is that this picture? Yeah, basically it's the same.
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  It's basically the same. Basically it's the same.
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  OK, fine. So those that are listening
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  picture number I do basically picture #3 or this picture has
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  we have two z's in one on top of another, but they have to be
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  with intense fucking with each other.
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  Each one has to be dollar by dollar to be A to keep working
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  with it. Yeah.
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  All right. So basically, if I understand it
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  correctly, the if it has to be less than 10 talking if you want
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  the Sulam to be narrow, less than Fort Swachim.
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  But if the Sulam is wider than Fort Swachim, then you're not
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  stuck with this. You're not limited to 10th
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  fucking apart from each other. Disease can be higher than 10th
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  fucking. Because if you have a proper
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  soulem that's at least four wide, right?
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  The it's this limit of 10th Fucking is allowing you to use a
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  ladder that's thinner, more narrow than Ford.
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  Fucking Okay you're Gumel. Hey Amit.
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  Shane Suamodze Zebitsaze. Malhoya Bishne Masha Kharba.
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  So now you want to use it as a proper, like a doorway, and so
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  you need a proper Salaam of four.
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  So then it we learned this the ladder has to be at least four.
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  It's talking white. But what if you have two very
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  thin ladders and you put them next to each other and there's
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  air space in between. So that's not okay because the
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  ladder people walk in the middle of the ladder and it has to have
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  the rungs in the middle. Here he come here.
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  Let's keep reading. We are he comes and is that
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  Kadesha Vishniyam Arbaa Umileha Aveer Shavishnayam, Bikash.
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  So now the the two ends of the sulam are four wide but the
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  airspace is there's airspace in the middle.
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  So then you want to put in straw in the middle a no moil.
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  It doesn't do anything for you. It's the same as air Lola too.
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  You stamishy alive and you can't stand on Kash.
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  You'll fall right through, so that doesn't help.
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  However, the EM hammy the Su lumbar EMSA.
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  But if you have a narrow ladder right in the middle, right
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  wherever you put that ladder, that's the middle.
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  We have Kash. You mean that side?
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  And then on the two sides of the ladder you add straws.
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  So now it has the thickness of for it's fucking wide.
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  But you can't. You don't need to walk on the
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  side, you just have to walk in the middle.
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  So Mahani, that actually works. That's a way to even if you have
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  a very thin ladder and it's not 412 and wide, you can still add
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  stuff to the side. Mahani bin lad Chile
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  Stammisholav Bay in the are viahad.
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  Whether depends on what the case is, but whether you just want to
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  use it to put things on top of disease, to put things down, or
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  in order to actually climb on it and use it as a proper doorway
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  to get from one side to the other or make an error from one
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  side to the other. You dial it in.
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  Sulam rakhabar Bah the hakha etsla bakot la shrima larba.
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  Very similar case. You have a narrow sulam, it's
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  not four wide. So what do you do?
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  You dig into the wall itself, right next to it to make it 4
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  wide dialogue. Shakhok begovasara.
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  So that works. And you only have to start
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  digging into the sides of the wall to make it 4.
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  It's fucking wide for the first four.
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  For the 1st 10, it's fucking the Imlo Hai meets Sulam Klao or
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  yeah, the Imlo. It only needs to be 4 wide.
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  For the bottom 4, the Imlo Ha meets Sulam Klao and if there's
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  no Sulam whatsoever, Ella Kakkakoto Kaminsli vote shell
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  Sulam Lalabo. There's no ladder you just
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  carved out steps into the wall. So then, serig.
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  It has to reach within the top of the wall or within 3 fucking
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  at the top of the wall. So as long as you have part of
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  this sulam continuing that's fine.
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  Or if the whole rung is made out of the wall itself, then that
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  also works and you just have to keep making these grooves into
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  the wall until the top Moyo Bain lahatir the Tasamish Bain lahari
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  yahat. And that works for either one.
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  I think we'll stop okay. Similar case will be with the
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  tree and we'll. Continue.