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Gabby Petito BOMBSHELL: Did Brian Laundrie Parents Know All Along Gabby Was Dead? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. It seems like just yesterday
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Speaker 1: we got the news that a beautiful young girl, twenty
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Speaker 1: two year old Gabrielle Gabby Potito's body was found out
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Speaker 1: in a dispersed camping area far away from home. But
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Speaker 1: where was her boyfriend? The fiance that she traveled across
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Speaker 1: the country with vlogging, video blogging the whole way about
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Speaker 1: the van life. If you haven't looked at those vlogs,
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Speaker 1: they're incredible, She's really talented. Wow. He goes home and
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Speaker 1: her van was all of her stuff using her credit cards,
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Speaker 1: but no Gabby. In the last days, a stunning development
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Speaker 1: in the case of Gabby Petito, missing, then discovered murdered.
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Speaker 1: Her family has now sued the family of so called fiance,
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Speaker 1: Brian Laundry, saying they aided and abedded him while hiding
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Speaker 1: the evidence from Gabby's parents as they desperately tried to
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Speaker 1: find their daughter. I mean, when I got pick up
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Speaker 1: the twins at school, when they start being five ten
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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes late, I get out of the car and
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Speaker 1: I go looking for them. Children have disappeared on school
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Speaker 1: playgrounds in school areas. Can you imagine what Gabby Petito's
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Speaker 1: parents went through as they called, and they called, and
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Speaker 1: they text them, they emailed Laundry's parents and then they
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Speaker 1: find out the worst Laundry's home. Gabby's van is parted
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Speaker 1: in the driveway, but no Gabby. How do you think
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Speaker 1: they felt when they find out the Laundries take Brian
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Speaker 1: Laundry on a camping trip. They go camping and they
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Speaker 1: what sit around the camp fire and have somemores, But
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Speaker 1: no Gabby. Nobody said, hey, where's Gabby? Can you imagine
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Speaker 1: that feeling in their gut, in their mind and their
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Speaker 1: heart when her cell phone goes straight to voicemail every
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Speaker 1: single time and they know, but yet they don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about it. I mean it.
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Speaker 1: See Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and Serious Sex. Sim
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Speaker 1: One eleven. You know I used to tell that to
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Speaker 1: juries all the years I tried feel any cases, you
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Speaker 1: can't turn away. You cannot turn away from the truth.
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Speaker 1: It is our due to look at the trade and
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Speaker 1: determine what is just. Joining me an all star panel
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Speaker 1: to make sits of what we know right now. But
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Speaker 1: first I want you to listen to our cut one
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Speaker 1: from ABC seven. Two heartbroken families now taking the battle
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Speaker 1: to court. More than six months after the murder of
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Speaker 1: Gabby Potito, her parents, Joseph Potito and Nicole Schmidt, are
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Speaker 1: now suing Brian Laundry's family the civil laws, who filed
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Speaker 1: in Florida on Thursday, alleges Brian's parents, Christopher and ROBERTA. Laundry,
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Speaker 1: knew their son had murdered Gabby on or around August
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Speaker 1: twenty eighth of last year. Potito and her fiance left
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Speaker 1: New York early July in a van to travel the country.
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Speaker 1: After several weeks of visiting national parks, Brian returned to
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Speaker 1: Florida in the van without Gabby. When he refused to
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Speaker 1: cooperate with authorities, suspicion turned to him, and then he
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Speaker 1: went missing. His remains were found weeks later. Think about it.
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Speaker 1: We believe Gabby was killed August twenty eight, her body
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Speaker 1: was not found until September nineteen. Think about all that
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Speaker 1: time the family was left hanging blow it in the wind,
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Speaker 1: wondering where is their beautiful girl? With me and All
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Speaker 1: Star Panel to make sense of what we know right
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Speaker 1: now and bringing you the very latest on this lawsuit
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Speaker 1: of what if anything, we will learn in court. First
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Speaker 1: of all, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags. Wendy Patrick.
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Speaker 1: She's a star of Today with doctor Wendy kcb Q
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Speaker 1: when you can find her at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com.
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Speaker 1: Renowned psychologists joining us out of Manhattan. Karen Stark, you
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Speaker 1: can find her at Karen Stark dot com. That's Karen
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Speaker 1: with a C. Cheryl McCollum, Founder and Director of the
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Speaker 1: Cold Case Research Institute, forenstick specialist and you can find
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Speaker 1: her at cold Case Crimes dot org. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon,
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Speaker 1: and star of a brand new another brand new hit series,
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Speaker 1: This is Bodybags with Joseph Scott Morgan on iHeart. But
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Speaker 1: first to senior correspondent Special Guests joining us Fox News,
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Speaker 1: Laura Ingle, Laura, does it never end with the laundries?
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Speaker 1: Does it never end? I mean, don't you think that
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Speaker 1: at some point they would have held out an olive
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Speaker 1: branch for Pete's sake and said, listen, we're gonna fight.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna fly to your place this weekend. I know
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Speaker 1: you hate us right now, but let us tell you
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Speaker 1: our side of what happened, what we knew, when we
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Speaker 1: knew it, what we thought we knew, what we didn't know.
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Speaker 1: To set your heart at rest? Can they not do that?
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Speaker 1: And if not, why not? Laura Ingle? You know what
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Speaker 1: it's been months later, High Nancy. You know, we knew
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Speaker 1: that this was coming. We knew that the family members
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Speaker 1: of Gabby Petito, the parents the two sets, were going
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Speaker 1: to be filing a lawsuit, and last week it was
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Speaker 1: finally put down in black and white. It is a
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Speaker 1: civil lawsuit filed against Chris and Roberto Laundry. And while
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Speaker 1: there is not a ton of evidence listed in the
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Speaker 1: civil lawsuit about what they knew and when they knew it,
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Speaker 1: in terms of just the detail, they do lay out
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Speaker 1: the dates that it is believed that Honor about August
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Speaker 1: twenty eighth, Brian Laundry advised his parents that he had
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Speaker 1: murdered Gabrielle Petito, and on that same date, Chris Laundry
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Speaker 1: and Roberto Laundry spoke with their attorney, Steve Bertolino, and
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Speaker 1: sent him a retainer. Just a few days later, September second,
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Speaker 1: And when you go through this laws that you're right Nancy,
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Speaker 1: you think about you remind it of the dates, of
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Speaker 1: the timing, of the pacing of when the couple last
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Speaker 1: scene out west, when Brian Laundry returned to Florida in
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Speaker 1: Gabby's van without her, and then that radio silence that
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Speaker 1: broke everyone's heart as everyone stood outside of the Laundry's
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Speaker 1: home saying, where is Gabby? Do you know something? Well?
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Speaker 1: This lawsuit, though you know, stays in black and white,
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Speaker 1: the civil lawsuit asking for damages that they knew and
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Speaker 1: that they did not share that information. And we remember
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Speaker 1: I was at the press conference for Gabby Petito's parents
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Speaker 1: when Rick Stafford came out and read a statement saying,
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Speaker 1: we beg you to tell us as a parent, how
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Speaker 1: could you let us go through this pain and not
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Speaker 1: help us? And you know, I think that the other
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Speaker 1: thing that we kind of surmise from this lawsuit is
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Speaker 1: that this family, if they knew, and it appears that
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Speaker 1: they did roll the dice and said we're not going
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Speaker 1: to say anything. Because I was in Wyoming when Gabby
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Speaker 1: was found. I went to that campground where her body
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Speaker 1: I remember that was, and so it was it was
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Speaker 1: beautiful and it was the trees had just turned, but
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Speaker 1: it turned really cold and icy and snowy very very
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Speaker 1: soon after. So you've gotta think, did everybody on the
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Speaker 1: Laundry side think that if they just stayed quiet long enough,
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Speaker 1: maybe she would not? Wait a minute, you just gave
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Speaker 1: me an idea, Laura Angle. First of all, talking to you,
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Speaker 1: it's like drinking from a fire hydrate. It's just so
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Speaker 1: much information at once. I could even write the notes fastiff.
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Speaker 1: I know everybody on the panel has a ton of
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Speaker 1: questions for you too, But the idea you just gave me,
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Speaker 1: I want to know where we're getting the date August
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Speaker 1: twenty eight, that that's the day we believe Ryan Laundry
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Speaker 1: told his parents I murdered Gabby and I can guaran
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Speaker 1: damn tee, you technical legal term. That's not what he said.
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Speaker 1: He didn't say. I beat her. I bludgeoned her head,
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Speaker 1: then I strangled her until she died. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: he probably made up some biss about oh she said this,
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Speaker 1: and then she hit me and I hit her back,
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Speaker 1: and oh she fell and hit her head on a
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Speaker 1: rock and died. It's gonna be some total cockamy crap
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Speaker 1: like that. Okay, but you told me August twenty eight,
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Speaker 1: and I'm assuming we're what it's on page three of
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Speaker 1: the page of three. I was about to say, I'm
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Speaker 1: assuming you're divining that from the document, but you gave
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Speaker 1: me an idea time stories with Nancy Grace. Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: California Prosecutor. How often have we seen people been like
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Speaker 1: Sherry Peppini right now, who is been charged with a
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Speaker 1: false claim that she had been kidnapped, and all the
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Speaker 1: money about a quarter of a million dollars to search
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Speaker 1: for her when she was shacked up at her old
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Speaker 1: boyfriend's place the whole time. Really, think about it, if
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Speaker 1: the laundries knew, if they could be proven, the laundries
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Speaker 1: knew Gabby was dead and they let law enforcement and
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Speaker 1: all of the personnel involved, the US Marshals, the FBI,
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Speaker 1: the local law enforcement at Northport, the law enforcement at
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Speaker 1: the Granteeause, everybody's searching. How much did that cost? And
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Speaker 1: the whole time they knew she was dead and they
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Speaker 1: knew where could they be prosecuted? Yes? No, in a nutshell,
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Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, I think yes, And I think that what
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Speaker 1: you're going to find out with the civil lawsuit might
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Speaker 1: yield the type of evidence that criminal authorities might use
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Speaker 1: to build their own case if they knew something at
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Speaker 1: a time when they could have prevented further harm, when
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Speaker 1: they could have prevented further expense, when they could have
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Speaker 1: spared law enforcement the time and resources. Think about the
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Speaker 1: resources that were expended looking for Gabby if they knew
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Speaker 1: she was dead. Now, on the other side of that,
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Speaker 1: you could argue, well, what exactly did they know? And
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Speaker 1: I think you queue that up nicely. What did Brian
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Speaker 1: actually say? The lawsuit mentioned text messages back and forth.
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Speaker 1: That's going to be an important piece of evidence. You're
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Speaker 1: right about that, what if anything they could face criminally. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl mcclem here, you're trying to jump in and and go,
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh. The thing that just drives me in
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Speaker 1: saying the additional element of waiting the thirteen days, right,
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Speaker 1: and then the additional eight days before she's actually found, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: the amount of evidence that could have been lost may
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Speaker 1: have been lost. She's out in the elements. There's going
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Speaker 1: to be animal activity, There's going to be whether why
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Speaker 1: do you say animal activity? You and Joe Scott Morton
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Speaker 1: both do that. Wait a minute, let's say what it
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Speaker 1: really is okay, and it tastes like dirt, but adamal activity,
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Speaker 1: all right, that reminds me on a hike. I just
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Speaker 1: took the twins on and we were bird spotting and
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Speaker 1: looking for animals. What you're talking about is Gabby's body
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Speaker 1: lying out in the elements, the tetons and animals ripping
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Speaker 1: her body apart and chewing on her and gnawing on her.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. That is what the Gabby
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Speaker 1: Potito family has to live with twenty four seven every
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Speaker 1: day of the year. I mean, that's what we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: all right, So let's just say what it is. Cheryl McCollum.
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and there is nothing more repugnant and vile. Hell,
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. The gate for letting her family
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Speaker 1: live through that, and now they got to live the
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Speaker 1: rest of their lives. They got to know. That's what
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Speaker 1: happened to their girls. That's right after her. She was
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Speaker 1: brutally murdered by the very person that was supposed to
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Speaker 1: be taken care of her and the most again repugnant
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Speaker 1: and vow and straight devil when ROBERTA. Laundry blocked Gabby's
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Speaker 1: Mama's phone number and then blocked her on social media. Ooh,
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Speaker 1: I forgot about that, Laura Ingle, that the Laundry's actually
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Speaker 1: blocked Gabby's family from trying to contact them. Is that true?
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Speaker 1: It is? It is true. It is. That is what
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Speaker 1: we have read about the reports. We've talked to them,
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Speaker 1: and it goes back to that desperation of that time
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Speaker 1: frame that we're talking about, of begging them, and to
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Speaker 1: think of that and go back in your mind of
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Speaker 1: the news coverage, the bike riding, the mowing of the lawn,
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Speaker 1: taking trips to the store, camping trip, all of that,
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Speaker 1: and when you think about what's in this civil lawsuit
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Speaker 1: about how he it is believed that he confessed to
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Speaker 1: his parents, and you're right, Nancy. Look, we don't know
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Speaker 1: exactly what was said. We don't know if he detailed
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Speaker 1: it a mom and dad, it was an accident. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what to do. I'm scared him coming home.
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Speaker 1: We don't know what was said. But what we may
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Speaker 1: learn eventually is if this does go to a trial
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Speaker 1: and we do get some depositions and we do see
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Speaker 1: the phone records that have not been made public yet,
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Speaker 1: if we do learn exactly exact times of when Brian
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Speaker 1: was talking to his parents. The attorney for the Laundry says, look,
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Speaker 1: I never talked to Brian Laundry. I never spoke to him.
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Speaker 1: But what if Brian Laundry was talking to his dad
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Speaker 1: and Bertolina was talking to the mom. And let's just say,
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Speaker 1: for argument's sake, that everybody was on speaker phone, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So there's going to be more
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Speaker 1: information that will be coming forward. I think there's something hard,
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Speaker 1: Laura Engle, I think there's something hard. If the documents
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Speaker 1: say odd twenty eight, they've got hard evidence of that?
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Speaker 1: Is it? R type? Is a text? Is an email?
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Speaker 1: And hey, happen again, Laura Ingle? Drink from the fire hydrant.
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Speaker 1: Karen start, did you hear Laura Ingle? And this is
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Speaker 1: a hypothetical. We're talking about what he told his parents,
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Speaker 1: and I said, I can guarantee you he didn't say, hey,
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Speaker 1: I murdered Gabby and left her body out there to
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Speaker 1: be torn apart by animals. He probably says some bs
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Speaker 1: story about she hit me, then I pushed her, or
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Speaker 1: she hit her head on a rock or a tree,
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Speaker 1: she died just like that. Of course, that's a libel
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Laura Ingle says, well, what if he
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Speaker 1: says something like mom, Dad, I'm upset, Gabby died and
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Speaker 1: I'm so upset. I don't know what to do. He's
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Speaker 1: not so upset. He didn't stuff his piehole the way
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Speaker 1: whole way home, thousands of miles on Gabby's credit card.
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Speaker 1: Do you think he felt bad when he drove through
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Speaker 1: Burger King and had it his way? Or is that McDonald's, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's burger King. What about that he wasn't so upset
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Speaker 1: he couldn't eat, He left a trail a mile wide
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Speaker 1: on her credit card and her debit card, Nancy. He
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Speaker 1: also on August thirtieth, remember, he sent a text message
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Speaker 1: from Gabby's cell phone to the Gabby's move and saying
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Speaker 1: no service in Yosemite, in an effort to make her
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Speaker 1: mother believe that she was still alive. You're so right, Laura,
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Speaker 1: anal he's not upset. He's upset like a snake after him.
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Speaker 1: You got the grandfather. Go ahead, Karen, start champain. He
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Speaker 1: didn't just he sent text pretending that he was her.
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Speaker 1: He was so upset that he was able to go
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Speaker 1: home and be with mommy and daddy. And Nancy. When
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Speaker 1: you think about this, when you think about how hard
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Speaker 1: it is to lose a child. For parents, it's something
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Speaker 1: that you never get over. It's not the way it's
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Speaker 1: supposed to be. And then on top of that, it's
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Speaker 1: hard enough to imagine your child dead, let alone being
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Speaker 1: eaten by animals, being abandoned. And there is no doubt
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Speaker 1: in my mind that he said she provoked him. Oh,
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Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind at all, No doubt, guys.
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Speaker 1: In the last hours a bobshell. In the Gabby Potito case,
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Speaker 1: Gabby's family has filed a lawsuit against fiance Brian Laundry's family,
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Speaker 1: claiming they aid it an abet. Laundry they knew Gabby
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Speaker 1: had been killed, and not only refused to tell Gabby's parents,
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Speaker 1: but actually blocked them so they couldn't make any inquiries
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Speaker 1: as to where was their girl. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our cut three our friends from Fox thirteen. Parents of
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Speaker 1: the young woman who lived such a colorful life are
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Speaker 1: trying to avenge her death by putting in black and
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Speaker 1: white the horrible details of why they went through the
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Speaker 1: allegations contained within this the four corners of this complaint.
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Speaker 1: They're sillacious, in arguing that the Laundries quote knew they
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Speaker 1: could alleviate, at least in part, such mental suffering and anguish.
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Speaker 1: The Potitos said they believed that on August twenty eighth, Laundry,
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Speaker 1: while still in Wyoming, advised his parents he had murdered Gabby. But,
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Speaker 1: as the lawsuit points out, for several weeks, the Laundries
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Speaker 1: not only refused to talk to the Potitos, they put
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Speaker 1: out statements saying they hope she could be found alive
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Speaker 1: if they did what is alleged in the four corners
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Speaker 1: this complaint. The Laundry family acted with indecency. They acted
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Speaker 1: not as humans. This girl was part of their family.
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Speaker 1: The Laundries were accused for weeks by protesters of not
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Speaker 1: being forthcoming. Guys. I'm looking at the lawsuit that has
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Speaker 1: been filed right now. Just got Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: State University and start of bodybacks as Joseph Scott, Morgan
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Speaker 1: jumping Joe Scott. Hey, you know, Nancy. One of the
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Speaker 1: things that comes to me, I'm kind of listening back
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Speaker 1: towards Laundry's remains well, listening back listing go ahead, yeah sorry,
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Speaker 1: uh yeah, so going back to Brian laundry. You know,
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Speaker 1: one of the things I'm thinking about is there's so
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Speaker 1: much deception. I think that goes along with where his
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Speaker 1: you know, his his location throughout this whole thing. The car.
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Speaker 1: You remember, we reflect back to how did he wind
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Speaker 1: up out there? Where did he go? You remember how
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Speaker 1: much time we spent speculating about where he may have gone.
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Speaker 1: And you know I'm speculating, Jessica Morgan, I call it
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Speaker 1: analyzing the events that we need. Well, yeah, people were
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Speaker 1: saying Mexico, all these other things, and there is a
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Speaker 1: there's a thread that runs through this of deception and
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Speaker 1: it's not surprising relative to you know, when we look
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Speaker 1: at what happened to Gabby and his his murder of her,
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Speaker 1: and then moving forward what happened to him coming back
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Speaker 1: to his parents, I'm thinking, you know, what is it
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Speaker 1: that they haven't told us about him and his activities?
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Speaker 1: You know, when I looked over the and the report
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Speaker 1: that we got back was absolutely voluminous. I mean it
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Speaker 1: just goes on and on and own relative to his body.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that in my memory I've seen one
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Speaker 1: quite uh this inclusive of everything. You know, they report
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Speaker 1: that he was last seen on the thirteenth. They didn't
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Speaker 1: fill out this missing person's report until like the seventeenth
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Speaker 1: of September, and he was so far gone by the
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Speaker 1: time the authorities got out there they could not actually
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Speaker 1: pin down. This is the forensic anthropologists cannot actually pin
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Speaker 1: down a specific time of death. They did, and they
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Speaker 1: were able to recover that. But Nancy, to give you
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Speaker 1: an idea, the best she could do in one of
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Speaker 1: her calculations was now, get this anywhere from forty seven
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Speaker 1: days to two to six hundred and seventy two days
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Speaker 1: as an estimation of post mortem intervals. That's how far
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Speaker 1: gone he was. And I still have a major question
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Speaker 1: again about this gunshot wound. He sustained. He is right
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Speaker 1: hand dominant. This is a left handed entrance wound that
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Speaker 1: we have that has been validated by not just the
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Speaker 1: forensic anthropologist but also the forensic pathologist. And where in
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Speaker 1: the hell did this revolver come from? Who belong who
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Speaker 1: did it belong to? What's you know, what's the genesis
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Speaker 1: of it? And I don't think that that's been thoroughly
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Speaker 1: addressed as well. Well. I think you're absolutely correct. What
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Speaker 1: about a cherylmnnall him. I agree one hundred percent, and
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Speaker 1: I have the same feeling about this notebook in his
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Speaker 1: alleged confession, I don't think it's a confession. When they
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Speaker 1: crack wording is, it's probably going to be drawings of
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Speaker 1: unicorns and yeah, drawings and writing his name. That's very different.
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Speaker 1: Like as a parent, if your child is riding a
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Speaker 1: bike and fall, you might feel responsible that they got
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Speaker 1: hurt because you couldn't protect him in that moment, but
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Speaker 1: you didn't cause it. You're not going to confess that
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Speaker 1: you're the reason they've got a skinned up knee. Excuse me,
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Speaker 1: what does that have to do with this? Because you
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Speaker 1: can take responsibility, but that's not a confession. If Jackie
22:22
Speaker 1: cusses out a guest, you may apologize and take responsibility
22:25
Speaker 1: for it, but you're not confessing. Did you cuss anybody out?
22:28
Speaker 1: That was Jackie? That word bothers me. I have seen
22:32
Speaker 1: no confession. I agree, I agree, I understand what you're saying,
22:36
Speaker 1: and I want to go back to the lawsuit that
22:38
Speaker 1: has just been filed. Did you see to Laura Ingles,
22:44
Speaker 1: special guest joining us Fox and you use correspondent Senior
22:48
Speaker 1: correspondent Laura Aunt, specifically in paragraph thirty one. In civil
22:55
Speaker 1: lawsuits various courses of action, sometimes it can take several
23:02
Speaker 1: sentences to explain, and typically each paragraph it can be
23:07
Speaker 1: one sentence, it can be five sentences. Is numbered. This
23:11
Speaker 1: is number thirty one. Do you see that? Do you
23:14
Speaker 1: see what that says about Christopher and ROBERTA Laundry's behavior? Explain?
23:19
Speaker 1: You know, they say, And to go back a page,
23:22
Speaker 1: and that is the number thirty one. Pious, it's utterly horrible.
23:27
Speaker 1: But let me let me see this up because if
23:29
Speaker 1: you go back one page in item twenty five, they write,
23:32
Speaker 1: on September fourteenth, with full knowledge that Gabrielle Petito had
23:37
Speaker 1: been murdered by their son. The Laundry lawyer put out
23:40
Speaker 1: a statement saying, it is our understanding that a search
23:43
Speaker 1: has been organized from miss Petito in or near Grand
23:45
Speaker 1: Titan National Park in Wyoming on behalf of the Laundry family.
23:49
Speaker 1: It is our hope that the search for Miss Petito
23:51
Speaker 1: is successful and that Miss Petito is reunited with her family.
23:55
Speaker 1: That September fourteenth, And as you go down to fast
23:58
Speaker 1: forwarding to knowing what how, and they write in the
24:01
Speaker 1: lawsuit Christopher Laundry and ROBERTA. Laundry exhibited extreme and outrageous conduct,
24:06
Speaker 1: which constitutes behavior under the circumstances, which goes beyond all
24:11
Speaker 1: possible bounds of decency, and is regarded as shocking, atrocious,
24:16
Speaker 1: and utterly intolerable in a civilized community. Who could blame him? Well,
24:21
Speaker 1: who could blame him? I mean, you know, you think
24:23
Speaker 1: about the timeline, and you know, if all of this
24:26
Speaker 1: is true, and if they knew those details and then
24:28
Speaker 1: they put out a statement. Sure, we hope that she
24:31
Speaker 1: sound and they knew where she was. It just makes
24:34
Speaker 1: her stomach turn. But Nancy, we can prove they knew
24:38
Speaker 1: it on September tenth, when her daddy went to their
24:42
Speaker 1: house and knocked on the door and they wouldn't even
24:44
Speaker 1: come to the door. He had to put out in
24:46
Speaker 1: front of God and country on social media, I'm going
24:49
Speaker 1: to the police if you don't tell me something. So
24:52
Speaker 1: then he goes to the police on September the eleventh.
24:55
Speaker 1: They knew it, They knew it, and they acted be
25:00
Speaker 1: able to wind up you. I'm not sure. Okay, put
25:03
Speaker 1: this in your pipe and smoke at Scher on the column.
25:05
Speaker 1: You're ready. On that day August twenty eight, That's the
25:10
Speaker 1: day Christopher and Roberto Laundry speak with attorney Steve Bertolino. Suddenly,
25:19
Speaker 1: that's the day they go, whoa, whoa, what we need
25:22
Speaker 1: a criminal lawyer. And then they follow up about two
25:26
Speaker 1: days later with a retainer. Now, as I always say,
25:32
Speaker 1: there is no coincidence in criminal law. So, Wendy Patrick,
25:36
Speaker 1: what about it? California prosecutors, that's the day they decide
25:40
Speaker 1: they need a high power criminal defense attorney. Who ps
25:45
Speaker 1: great criminal defense attorneys are usually not seen or herd
25:49
Speaker 1: outside the courtroom. They don't want to be stars in
25:53
Speaker 1: their own right on TV or this or that. Have
25:57
Speaker 1: you ever noticed that, Wendy Patrick? That's true. And it's
26:00
Speaker 1: also true that in this case, the fact that they
26:03
Speaker 1: spoke on August twenty eighth is going to be so
26:06
Speaker 1: important for the timeline because guess what Two days later,
26:10
Speaker 1: on August thirtieth, is when Laundry apparently sent an additional
26:13
Speaker 1: text for Potito's phone to Schmidt saying there was no
26:17
Speaker 1: service in Yosemite Park in an effort leaving her to
26:19
Speaker 1: believe Gabby was still alive. So that's after the twenty
26:24
Speaker 1: eighth when the lawyer is hired. And so when you
26:26
Speaker 1: look at what would fuel this lawsuit, that's a huge point.
26:30
Speaker 1: Well what really just it's just think about it, Laura, Ingle,
26:34
Speaker 1: think about it. So he gets home, they know Gabby's dead,
26:42
Speaker 1: and they go for a camp out. The family goes
26:46
Speaker 1: on a little trip and camps out. They sit around
26:50
Speaker 1: the campfire, they grill out, they eat. Other people at
26:54
Speaker 1: the camp remembers De Soto camp Grounds. See them now
26:57
Speaker 1: what I was I was talking about this this morning,
26:59
Speaker 1: about the you know about Brian being seen walking walking around.
27:04
Speaker 1: We know that the sister was there. Now did they
27:06
Speaker 1: go camping to try and kind of come together as
27:09
Speaker 1: the family and say what are we gonna do? But
27:11
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it. From the pictures and from
27:13
Speaker 1: the stories that we've heard from people who saw them there,
27:16
Speaker 1: it looked like they were genuinely lamp and I bring
27:22
Speaker 1: this up only when I'm projecting, But Laura, I remember
27:26
Speaker 1: when my fiancee was murdered. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep.
27:32
Speaker 1: I lost down to eighty nine pounds. The smell of
27:35
Speaker 1: food made me sick just to smell it. I remember
27:39
Speaker 1: the first thing I finally ate or consumed it was
27:43
Speaker 1: a glass of orange juice. It's the first thing that
27:47
Speaker 1: did not make me literally nauseous after case murder. So
27:53
Speaker 1: how and the h E double l is this family
27:58
Speaker 1: knowing that Gabby is it and being torn apart by
28:02
Speaker 1: animals out in the rain, lying there on the dirt.
28:10
Speaker 1: How could they go to a campout? How could they
28:13
Speaker 1: do that? There's no explanation, there's none, But none of
28:17
Speaker 1: us on this panel, nobody listening, could even imagine doing
28:22
Speaker 1: what they did. Right, if they knew, and it looks
28:25
Speaker 1: like they did, how could you? You're absolutely right, And
28:28
Speaker 1: it is a point that I believe that Petito Schmidtz
28:32
Speaker 1: will hope will come out in court. They want to
28:34
Speaker 1: get to a courtroom because there's more. There's more information
28:38
Speaker 1: that obviously wasn't released by the FBI, that wasn't released
28:42
Speaker 1: in the investigation. People want to know more and if
28:44
Speaker 1: they can and if they can push the civil lawsuit
28:46
Speaker 1: and get into that next level. This is a first volley.
28:49
Speaker 1: And by the way, I called the FBI today and
28:53
Speaker 1: I was outside of the field office in Tampa in
28:57
Speaker 1: January when they said, you know, we're bringing the family together,
28:59
Speaker 1: We're sharing all the information with them that we possibly
29:03
Speaker 1: can give them right now. And everyone's like, Okay, the
29:05
Speaker 1: case is closed. US Attorney's office, Grant Teton Attorney's Office
29:09
Speaker 1: closed their case because the debit card that was brought
29:12
Speaker 1: he dead. They've got to close the case. But you
29:14
Speaker 1: know what's interesting when I talked to the FBI today,
29:18
Speaker 1: I said, is this case closed? And they said, not officially?
29:24
Speaker 1: What does that mean? And what does what does that
29:27
Speaker 1: allow them to do? It? Is it because is it
29:31
Speaker 1: truly because there's paperwork left to be filed, which is
29:34
Speaker 1: what they told me. Or do they have the same
29:36
Speaker 1: question said Joe Scott Morgan and Cheryl McCollum have about
29:40
Speaker 1: the injury the gunshot wound to Laundry's head, We think
29:45
Speaker 1: to the left side when he is right handed, and
29:49
Speaker 1: the origin of the handgun he used or allegedly used
29:54
Speaker 1: to kill himself, the deception in hiding. Add to that,
30:01
Speaker 1: the layer of the parents going straight out to the body.
30:10
Speaker 1: They hadn't been out in that area Carlton Reserve forty
30:16
Speaker 1: five minutes. You remember that, Cheryl McCollum, and they go
30:20
Speaker 1: remember eight to the body and then comes up and
30:25
Speaker 1: shows them. I think it was the dry pack or
30:27
Speaker 1: something found near Brian Laundry's body, and they're like, hmm,
30:32
Speaker 1: there is no emotion. I can remember again projecting. I
30:38
Speaker 1: remember testifying in court at Keith's murder trial, and I
30:44
Speaker 1: remember coming down off the witness stand. It was tall
30:47
Speaker 1: up equal. My head was equal to the judge's head.
30:51
Speaker 1: And you go down some steps and then turn and
30:54
Speaker 1: go down some more steps, and I was walking out
30:56
Speaker 1: and I walked my council table and looked over and
31:00
Speaker 1: saw Keith bloody Denham shirt for the first time since
31:06
Speaker 1: I saw him drive away that morning before he was killed.
31:12
Speaker 1: Think about it, when the cops showed the laundry, those
31:17
Speaker 1: the laundries, those items, saw video, they just stood there.
31:21
Speaker 1: There's really no reaction at all. Mamma was holding the bag.
31:26
Speaker 1: Mama had the dry bag in her hands, standing there
31:30
Speaker 1: on that pathway. And again that's the bag that held
31:34
Speaker 1: this notebook that allegedly has this confession in it. I've
31:38
Speaker 1: said all along the suggestion that they planted evidence was
31:42
Speaker 1: far fetched. But now I know the level of deception
31:46
Speaker 1: that has been alleged by the Potito family against them.
31:51
Speaker 1: What are they capable of concealing? Cheryl McCollum Nancy they
31:56
Speaker 1: allowed their son to use a dead girl's debit card
32:01
Speaker 1: to get his sorry ass home to help formulating some
32:04
Speaker 1: plan of how to save his behind from what he
32:08
Speaker 1: had done. And I've said from the beginning on your show,
32:11
Speaker 1: they knew it. They knew it all along. I've said,
32:14
Speaker 1: even the sister knew it. There is no way that
32:18
Speaker 1: she went to that camp site for the day and
32:21
Speaker 1: didn't ask how's Gabby, where's Gabby? What's going on with Gabby?
32:25
Speaker 1: Everybody had to have known. This is odd for him
32:27
Speaker 1: to have come home the second time. Remember he flew
32:31
Speaker 1: home before on August seventeenth, So now he's back again.
32:35
Speaker 1: That's weird. You're on the trip of a lifetime and
32:38
Speaker 1: you won't quit coming home to your mama. That's weird.
32:40
Speaker 1: So there's no way she knew it, didn't know it.
32:43
Speaker 1: There's no way she didn't have them calling her phone too,
32:46
Speaker 1: because her mama said they tried to get her. Then,
32:49
Speaker 1: there ain't no way she missed it. On social media
32:51
Speaker 1: and the local news. You know that whole story, Laura
32:55
Speaker 1: Ingele about him coming home. It's not a story. He
32:59
Speaker 1: did fly hump in the middle of the trip and
33:02
Speaker 1: leave Gabby alone and I've always the moment I heard that,
33:06
Speaker 1: I went, WHOA, wait, wait what? And I believe I
33:09
Speaker 1: was spaken to one of Gabby's family members. I said,
33:12
Speaker 1: is that true? And they would not confirm it or
33:16
Speaker 1: deny it, and their answers they were told by police
33:18
Speaker 1: not to discuss it, which means is true or something alike.
33:22
Speaker 1: It is true. I think he went home to he
33:24
Speaker 1: went home to he flew home. And what's so weird
33:28
Speaker 1: about it is that they were tied on not tied
33:31
Speaker 1: on money, but they were watching their pennies, right, They
33:33
Speaker 1: were really conscious of their money and so but they
33:36
Speaker 1: took the time. He took the time to fly home
33:40
Speaker 1: to clear out a storage unit. That was the story
33:44
Speaker 1: that he was going to clear out a storage unit,
33:47
Speaker 1: and then returned back in that way to Utah, I believe,
33:52
Speaker 1: Versusalt Lake City. So we're just not clear on what
33:56
Speaker 1: that was about. That's still unknown and hopefully will be
33:59
Speaker 1: known if this can get into a courtroom. Hey, it's
34:02
Speaker 1: really happening there. Jump in. You're going to send five
34:05
Speaker 1: hundred dollars on an airline take it to shut down
34:07
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars store room. Come on, now, I know
34:12
Speaker 1: that has always been way off time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys.
34:34
Speaker 1: For those of you just joining us, a bombshell development
34:37
Speaker 1: in the Gabby Petito case. The fiance so call fiance
34:42
Speaker 1: Brian Laundry, who is now known to have killed Gabby Petito,
34:47
Speaker 1: murdered her blood into her, strangle to her and left
34:49
Speaker 1: her body to decompose in the elements. Her family is
34:55
Speaker 1: now suing his family, claiming they knew for a long
34:59
Speaker 1: time that Gabby was dead and refused to tell the
35:03
Speaker 1: parents anything. In fact, the warning law enforcement and the
35:08
Speaker 1: family as we all take a listen to our cut
35:11
Speaker 1: for our friends at Fox thirteen. Police in Northport said
35:14
Speaker 1: they'd not gotten cooperation as to whether they knew anything
35:18
Speaker 1: about where Gabby was, but the Laundries did tell police
35:21
Speaker 1: Brian had not returned from the reserve where he was
35:24
Speaker 1: eventually found dead. But the new lawsuit alleges the Laundries
35:28
Speaker 1: had been making arrangements for Brian to leave the country.
35:32
Speaker 1: Their family attorney denied the allegations, saying the lawsuit does
35:36
Speaker 1: not change the fact that the Laundries had no obligation
35:39
Speaker 1: to speak to law enforcement or any third party, including
35:42
Speaker 1: the Potito family. This fundamental legal principle renders the Potito's
35:47
Speaker 1: claim to be baseless under the law. Do we have
35:50
Speaker 1: a legal system where people are punished civilly for not
35:53
Speaker 1: cooperating with criminal investigations. The lawsuit does not say how
35:58
Speaker 1: the Potitos learned of the facts they allege, but they
36:01
Speaker 1: did have several meetings with investigators, including at the Tampa
36:05
Speaker 1: FBI office. After the investigation was closed. The Potito family
36:09
Speaker 1: attorneys said there were multiple conversations between Brian, his parents,
36:14
Speaker 1: and their lawyer before he left Wyoming August thirtieth. So
36:18
Speaker 1: jos got morgan if we weren't half wrong, right, because
36:23
Speaker 1: they were trying to get him out of the country
36:25
Speaker 1: exactly what we had thought was going on. Yeah, push, push, push,
36:30
Speaker 1: you know, I had all kinds of ideas, you know,
36:32
Speaker 1: back then, thinking about how could they facilitate Remember when
36:35
Speaker 1: they were at that camping area. You know, I think
36:38
Speaker 1: a couple of us had thought that maybe by water,
36:40
Speaker 1: you know, how are you going to get him out
36:43
Speaker 1: of the reach of the US authorities, to get him
36:46
Speaker 1: spirited awesomewhere. We were thinking about, you know, him leaving
36:50
Speaker 1: with gobs of cash so that he could fall off
36:52
Speaker 1: of the radar. Relative to using any kind of credit cards,
36:55
Speaker 1: which of course he had stolen gabbies and utilized it.
37:00
Speaker 1: Uh and just you know, go abroad with with US
37:03
Speaker 1: currency and try to make that happen. But how do
37:06
Speaker 1: you make that happen? I think that that's one of
37:08
Speaker 1: the big problems here when you have somebody that is
37:12
Speaker 1: not sophisticated in a way that the criminals work. You know,
37:18
Speaker 1: they don't know, you know, how how are we going
37:20
Speaker 1: to get him away from all of this trouble? And
37:23
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and at the end
37:25
Speaker 1: of the day they knew where his body was. I'm
37:29
Speaker 1: very curious as to what that final conversation was like
37:32
Speaker 1: with him, you know, did did he actually did he
37:34
Speaker 1: actually tell them? You know, Mom, Dad, I think I'm
37:37
Speaker 1: just going to go out here and end it, and
37:39
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you specifically where it was. Think
37:41
Speaker 1: about what Max said and what you said within forty
37:44
Speaker 1: five minutes, Nancy, in this vast area and it is vast, yeah,
37:49
Speaker 1: and where, by the way, let me remind everybody we've
37:53
Speaker 1: forgotten about this group of people. They've put all of
37:57
Speaker 1: the searchers at risk out here. Aliga snakes dehydration for
38:03
Speaker 1: days for days, and they put these people out there
38:06
Speaker 1: at risk and they walk right to the body and
38:09
Speaker 1: all of this evidence, and Nancy, I gotta say one
38:11
Speaker 1: more thing, the most striking piece of evidence to me,
38:15
Speaker 1: and it's just the old death investigator in me. Out
38:19
Speaker 1: of everything, you know, we had skeletal remains, we had
38:21
Speaker 1: this weapon that we talked about, But one of the
38:23
Speaker 1: things that just made me want to bite the head
38:25
Speaker 1: off a tenpenny nail is that out there at that
38:28
Speaker 1: scene they found adjacent to his body red ball cap.
38:35
Speaker 1: You know what that red ball cap said, It said
38:38
Speaker 1: moab Roasters. I wonder where he bought that. Out of
38:43
Speaker 1: all the hats he could have chosen, that's the one
38:45
Speaker 1: that he picked up as he was walking out that
38:47
Speaker 1: door for the final time, and he went out there
38:49
Speaker 1: and he took that hat. And I think that hat
38:52
Speaker 1: left out there was a great, big old screw you
38:54
Speaker 1: to everybody. That's what I think. That's where he was
38:56
Speaker 1: caught meeting Gabby out on the freet as we all know,
39:02
Speaker 1: you know, to Laura Ingle, senior correspondent Fox and he's
39:05
Speaker 1: joining us, Laura, I believe that in point number fourteen,
39:09
Speaker 1: paragraph number fourteen, the date is pinpointed the murder being
39:16
Speaker 1: August twenty seventh. I wonder if that's because that's the
39:20
Speaker 1: last day that her mother and Nicole Schmidt spoke with her.
39:23
Speaker 1: What do you think? I do believe it's that. And
39:26
Speaker 1: it also coincides with their sightings. And remember the Moab
39:31
Speaker 1: incident happens that's been so widely watched with the police
39:35
Speaker 1: BODYKAM footage. But then they make their way and they're
39:38
Speaker 1: in Jackson. I went to this place. It's the Mary
39:40
Speaker 1: Piglets and it's restaurants that it was a last known
39:44
Speaker 1: public sighting and we don't know what happened, and we've
39:48
Speaker 1: been trying to get our hands on any security footage
39:50
Speaker 1: of this restaurant. But there was some kind of a fight,
39:53
Speaker 1: some kind of an altercation between Brian and Gabby, an
39:57
Speaker 1: argument they were last seeing so and I stood there.
40:01
Speaker 1: So you're standing at the restaurant and you look down
40:03
Speaker 1: the long road, and down that long road is where
40:06
Speaker 1: the camp ground was. So they were at this restaurant.
40:08
Speaker 1: They have an argument, They get in the car, the van,
40:11
Speaker 1: they go down to the campground, they turn in, they
40:13
Speaker 1: set up camp. Then you know, the other bloggers fought
40:17
Speaker 1: the van, which helped us locate where they were. But
40:20
Speaker 1: it's that last those of the last moment. There was
40:23
Speaker 1: something going on on that date on August twenty seventh
40:27
Speaker 1: during the day and then it was later that night
40:31
Speaker 1: that that's when they believe. And there's forensics involved here
40:34
Speaker 1: too in terms of her body, where she was found,
40:37
Speaker 1: how she was found, that it all ties together that
40:40
Speaker 1: August twenty seventh is the date that she died. I
40:43
Speaker 1: want you to listen to our cut eleven and this
40:46
Speaker 1: is JBB you know at WFLA News Channel eight. Listen
40:51
Speaker 1: to this point number twenty five. On September fourteen, twenty
40:55
Speaker 1: twenty one, with full knowledge that Gabrielle Potito had been
40:58
Speaker 1: murdered by their son, Christopher Laundry, and Burden, Laundry, through
41:01
Speaker 1: their lawyer, issued the following statement, quote unquote, it is
41:05
Speaker 1: our understanding that a search has been organized for miss
41:07
Speaker 1: Potito in or near Grand Titi National Park in Wyoming,
41:10
Speaker 1: on behalf of the Laundry family. It is our hope
41:12
Speaker 1: that the search for miss Potito is successful and that
41:15
Speaker 1: Miss Potito is reunited with her family. Point number twenty
41:18
Speaker 1: nine and point number thirty as Laura Ingalls told us
41:23
Speaker 1: full knowing their son had murdered Gabby. They give a
41:28
Speaker 1: public statement. Wow. I hope they find her. I just
41:35
Speaker 1: can't wait till this goes to a jury. Wait, wait,
41:39
Speaker 1: as just as some falls fancy Grace Crime's story, signing off,
41:43
Speaker 1: goodbye friend,