Latest / The Front / A handbag-obsessed Chinese ‘spy’ in Australia
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- 0:03Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, August thirteenth, twenty twenty five. The Reserve Bank
- 0:13Speaker 1: has dropped the cash rate a quarter of a percentage
- 0:15Speaker 1: point to three point six percent, the lowest it's been
- 0:18Speaker 1: since mid twenty twenty three. IRBA Governor Michelle Bullock says
- 0:22Speaker 1: don't hold your breath for a big jump in living standards.
- 0:29Speaker 1: A senior academic is accusing Australian National University Chancellor Julie
- 0:33Speaker 1: Bishop of bullying. A tearful doctor LZ Allen told a
- 0:37Speaker 1: Senate committee she was allegedly bullied into near suicide and
- 0:42Speaker 1: miscarried a much wanted baby. Julie Bishop has denied any wrongdoing.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Those stories alive right now at the Australian dot com
- 0:51Speaker 1: dot au. Birkenbags are Rolex luxury cars. That's what police
- 0:59Speaker 1: say they see from the home of a Canberra woman
- 1:02Speaker 1: they're accusing of spying for the Chinese government. They say
- 1:06Speaker 1: the unnamed woman was tasked by Chinese intelligence with infiltrating
- 1:11Speaker 1: a Buddhist religious movement that claims Kevin Rudd is the
- 1:14Speaker 1: reincarnation of a Chinese man today, what she was allegedly
- 1:19Speaker 1: up to and why police say she's a risk to
- 1:22Speaker 1: the community. On a cold winter morning the week before last,
- 1:33Speaker 1: Australian Federal Police officers attached to an operation called Autumn
- 1:37Speaker 1: Shield raided the apartment of a married Canberra businesswoman and
- 1:42Speaker 1: allegedly found some items you don't usually see around the
- 1:46Speaker 1: low key national capital.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Numerous Ermez bags, more than six believed to be Burkean
- 1:52Speaker 2: and or Kelly bags.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Those are the world's most expensive handbags and this is
- 1:59Speaker 1: a voice act to reading the words of police in
- 2:02Speaker 1: court documents.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Large quantities of boxes for luxury handbags that were too
- 2:08Speaker 2: numerous to practicably count during the warrant, five thousand dollars
- 2:13Speaker 2: in cash sorted into one hundred dollar bills. Numerous watch receipts,
- 2:17Speaker 2: including a twenty four thousand dollars receipt for Arolics, Large
- 2:22Speaker 2: quantities of luxury and designer brands including Birbery, Gucci and
- 2:26Speaker 2: Louis Vuitton.
- 2:29Speaker 3: There's a lot of mystery around this woman.
- 2:33Speaker 1: This is The Australian's reporter Leah Mendez, who's been knocking
- 2:37Speaker 1: on doors in Canberra trying to piece together the life
- 2:40Speaker 1: of this woman whose name has been suppressed.
- 2:43Speaker 3: We're trying to paint the picture of who she is
- 2:45Speaker 3: and what her connections were. She's got this very complex
- 2:50Speaker 3: web of business structures which we're looking into and trying
- 2:54Speaker 3: to kind of get our heads around it. But there
- 2:56Speaker 3: is a lot to unpack here, and I think there
- 2:59Speaker 3: are a lot more to come in this story.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Police have charged the woman with reckless foreign interference. That's
- 3:11Speaker 1: a breach of the Commonwealth Criminal Code Act that carries
- 3:14Speaker 1: a penalty of fifteen years imprisonment. Here's what the charge
- 3:18Speaker 1: sheet says. We've used an AI.
- 3:21Speaker 4: Voice between twenty twenty two and the present engaged in conduct,
- 3:27Speaker 4: namely covertly or deceptively collecting information and tasking associates to
- 3:32Speaker 4: collect information on Shinling Farmin Guan Yin, Sita Dhamador on
- 3:38Speaker 4: behalf of or in collaboration with a foreign principle being
- 3:42Speaker 4: the Government of the People's Republic of China. And they
- 3:45Speaker 4: were reckless as to whether their conduct would support the
- 3:49Speaker 4: intelligence activities of the Government of the People's Republic of.
- 3:52Speaker 1: China, in other words, spying and running other spies. But
- 3:58Speaker 1: it's a lesser charge than in tentional foreign interference which
- 4:02Speaker 1: could suggest authorities think the woman was less a superspy
- 4:06Speaker 1: and more a local asset.
- 4:09Speaker 3: They are essentially alleging that she was allegedly receiving these
- 4:13Speaker 3: taskings from a handler attached to the jin Dong branch,
- 4:17Speaker 3: which is about six hundred and fifty kilometers east of Wuhan.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Court documents say the woman arrived in two thousand and
- 4:29Speaker 1: seven on a higher education visa and she's now an
- 4:32Speaker 1: Australian permanent resident. They say when police raided the house
- 4:36Speaker 1: and seized her phone, they found evidence of a connection
- 4:39Speaker 1: going back to twenty twenty two with an officer of
- 4:42Speaker 1: China's Public Security Bureau that's Chinese police, and this officer
- 4:46Speaker 1: allegedly works for the Domestic Security Group of the bureau,
- 4:50Speaker 1: that is intelligence gathering. Police say the PSB officer back
- 4:55Speaker 1: in China was regularly tasking her with numerous covert and
- 4:59Speaker 1: deceptive information operations in support of intelligence activities on behalf
- 5:04Speaker 1: of China. They say she was getting her taskings in
- 5:08Speaker 1: person on her visits to China and on WeChat, the
- 5:12Speaker 1: Chinese encrypted social media and messaging app.
- 5:16Speaker 3: The taskings that she was allegedly given was quite physical
- 5:21Speaker 3: based taskings where she had to take photos of front
- 5:25Speaker 3: doors of businesses, allegedly mapping locations and financial information about
- 5:31Speaker 3: the organization and the business. And it was an alleged
- 5:35Speaker 3: intel gathering operation that she was doing. She's alleged to
- 5:40Speaker 3: have received more than two hundred and thirty thousand dollars
- 5:44Speaker 3: from the PRC since twenty seventeen. Now, she does have
- 5:48Speaker 3: still very strong links to China. She's a permanent resident here.
- 5:52Speaker 3: She's got a lot of family in China, but she
- 5:55Speaker 3: still does have strong connections to Canberra.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Say she has bank accounts both in Australia and in China,
- 6:04Speaker 1: and that since twenty seventeen more than two hundred and
- 6:07Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars have flowed her way from sources in China.
- 6:13Speaker 3: We are restricted due to a very strict suppression order
- 6:17Speaker 3: in saying what she does for work. I get the
- 6:21Speaker 3: feeling that the Australian Federal Police also do not want
- 6:23Speaker 3: the public to know. They haven't in court pushed for
- 6:27Speaker 3: the suppression order, but they also didn't oppose the suppression order.
- 6:33Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. There's a mystery item that
- 6:36Speaker 3: costs four hundred thousand dollars that is in her possession
- 6:40Speaker 3: that has been redacted from court documents. We've got a
- 6:43Speaker 3: fair understanding of what that item is, but can't say,
- 6:46Speaker 3: for legal reasons what that is because that could identify her.
- 6:50Speaker 1: On September one, the matter we'll be back in court
- 6:53Speaker 1: where media organizations including The Australian are arguing for the
- 6:56Speaker 1: suppression order to be lifted.
- 6:59Speaker 3: She is the one who has applied for this order
- 7:02Speaker 3: because she fears that people that have got anti China
- 7:06Speaker 3: sentiments are going to essentially attack her.
- 7:11Speaker 1: All that money and fancy stuff. That's what the police
- 7:14Speaker 1: call unexplained wealth. That is, possessions that can't be explained
- 7:19Speaker 1: by the earnings of the person who's holding them. Luxury
- 7:22Speaker 1: goods are generally small and a great way to move
- 7:24Speaker 1: money around. You can get on a flight with a handbag,
- 7:27Speaker 1: for example, and take it to another jurisdiction without attracting
- 7:31Speaker 1: the attention that you might get if you had a
- 7:33Speaker 1: backpack full of cash.
- 7:36Speaker 3: I'll give you a bit of context here. About ten
- 7:39Speaker 3: years ago, she was working in a job that was
- 7:42Speaker 3: paying her about fourteen hundred dollars a week. Since then,
- 7:47Speaker 3: she's had lots of businesses. She started some businesses during
- 7:51Speaker 3: COVID as well. Some of them, by all accounts, seem
- 7:53Speaker 3: to have done quite well. But still we're talking about
- 7:57Speaker 3: Birkin bags multiple amounts. One of these bags that were
- 8:01Speaker 3: discovered that police said there were too many to count.
- 8:04Speaker 3: Some of these bags are alleged to costs around thirty
- 8:07Speaker 3: thousand dollars. We've got other information that implies that she
- 8:12Speaker 3: was driving high end luxury vehicles. We're talking very fancy cars.
- 8:21Speaker 1: So who was she allegedly spying on and why? The
- 8:25Speaker 1: police say the woman was tasked with infiltrating a charismatic
- 8:28Speaker 1: Buddhist group that was founded in Australia. Guan Yinchita Dhamador
- 8:34Speaker 1: is an Australian founded religious organization whose founder once claimed
- 8:39Speaker 1: former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd was the living reincarnation of
- 8:43Speaker 1: a Chinese man. Guan Yin Chitter Damador claims to be
- 8:48Speaker 1: a Buddhist organization in the Mahayana tradition, the largest of
- 8:51Speaker 1: Buddhism streams, although that claim has been questioned by other
- 8:55Speaker 1: Buddhist organizations. Its leader was a Chinese Australian man who
- 9:00Speaker 1: went by the name Richard Junhong Lu or Master Lou.
- 9:05Speaker 1: He said he was a Chinese national who moved to
- 9:07Speaker 1: Australia in the late eighties and studied at the University
- 9:10Speaker 1: of New South Wales. He began radio broadcasts about Buddhism
- 9:14Speaker 1: and then founded the group, which is registered in Australia
- 9:18Speaker 1: under the name Australia Oriental Media Buddhist Charity. Chinese language
- 9:23Speaker 1: media reported Junhong Lu had died in twenty twenty one.
- 9:27Speaker 1: It's been reported the organization is banned in China, where
- 9:31Speaker 1: major faiths like Catholicism and Islam are required to register
- 9:35Speaker 1: with the Chinese Communist Party government in order to lawfully
- 9:38Speaker 1: practice one in Chitadamad'or's website is packed with emotional videos,
- 9:49Speaker 1: glowing testimonials, and Master junhong Lu addressing his adoring followers,
- 9:55Speaker 1: treat everyone, we're a compassion this role that we are
- 9:58Speaker 1: truly being veiled to wheise love and the peace. Master
- 10:04Speaker 1: Loo is seen in the video series featuring subtitles apparently
- 10:08Speaker 1: praying for the salvation of people who've been struck by
- 10:11Speaker 1: speech impediments or paralysis. He says they're suffering the effects
- 10:16Speaker 1: of bad karma attracted by the deeds of themselves or
- 10:20Speaker 1: their ancestors.
- 10:21Speaker 3: Man.
- 10:22Speaker 2: That's not big way see psakaykay wiped Alcome.
- 10:30Speaker 1: This woman is on her knees begging for advice to
- 10:33Speaker 1: help her husband who's in a wheelchair. Master Loo tells
- 10:36Speaker 1: her the husband attracted bad karma by fishing when he
- 10:40Speaker 1: was a boy. He tells the sister of a little
- 10:42Speaker 1: girl in a wheelchair to become a vegetarian to release
- 10:46Speaker 1: the girl from karmic debt. He tells the mother of
- 10:49Speaker 1: a little boy that her son has been possessed by
- 10:52Speaker 1: the spirit of a dead puppy.
- 10:54Speaker 2: No, I'm not shelting.
- 11:02Speaker 1: He tells the mother to release five thousand fish to
- 11:05Speaker 1: cure the boy. Coming up. What happened after police executed
- 11:14Speaker 1: the search warrant on July thirty According to court documents,
- 11:34Speaker 1: police came to the woman's apartment to execute that search warrant.
- 11:38Speaker 1: She was there at the time. They seized her passport
- 11:41Speaker 1: and left without arresting her, but it's clear they had
- 11:44Speaker 1: her under surveillance. The next day, July thirty one, according
- 11:48Speaker 1: to court documents.
- 11:50Speaker 4: The defendant engaged in a conversation with an unknown person,
- 11:54Speaker 4: during which the defendant noted that she intends to leave
- 11:58Speaker 4: and had packed six bags of clothes. On the first
- 12:01Speaker 4: of August twenty twenty five, the defendant had a third
- 12:05Speaker 4: party drive her to the Chinese consulate, where she stayed
- 12:08Speaker 4: for about an hour and a half.
- 12:10Speaker 1: That prompted police to act. They went back to the
- 12:13Speaker 1: apartment on August two and arrested her and then asked
- 12:17Speaker 1: the act's Chief Magistrate to deny her bail. They say
- 12:21Speaker 1: the woman has a history of misleading and deceptive conduct
- 12:24Speaker 1: and could easily flee the country even though they seized
- 12:27Speaker 1: her passport. They noted her husband is presently in China.
- 12:32Speaker 4: The prosecution of the defendant is therefore directly contrary to
- 12:36Speaker 4: the interests of the PRC and linked to the national
- 12:39Speaker 4: security capabilities and agencies of the People's Republic of China.
- 12:44Speaker 4: The People's Republic of China can issue new travel documents
- 12:47Speaker 4: and urgent travel documents at short notice. The PRC or
- 12:51Speaker 4: allied nation may offer shelter to the defendant should she
- 12:55Speaker 4: be able to attend an embassy or consulate in the
- 12:57Speaker 4: event she has bailed.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Bail was denied and she was taken to the ACT
- 13:03Speaker 1: regional Watchhouse. She declined to participate in a recorded interview
- 13:07Speaker 1: with police.
- 13:11Speaker 3: The interesting thing here is that this is obviously a
- 13:13Speaker 3: foreign interference case. And the way that people are managed
- 13:16Speaker 3: in these cases that they are kept in essentially a
- 13:19Speaker 3: solitary confinement. They're not allowed to interact with other prisoners.
- 13:23Speaker 3: They are very high ranking, almost secretive classification within the
- 13:27Speaker 3: prison system. There are some occasions I'm told that where
- 13:31Speaker 3: interstate transfers have even happened. So there's a chance that
- 13:35Speaker 3: she might not be in the act. But these are
- 13:39Speaker 3: all some of the complex things that authorities have to
- 13:42Speaker 3: deal with when there is someone of her nature facing
- 13:45Speaker 3: these incredibly serious charges.
- 13:49Speaker 1: Liam Mendez is a reporter with The Australian. Well I've
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