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Episode 177 | "Hard Wuk" · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:30
  Speaker 2: She better work, you work, you work, you work it, you work, you work, you work, you work it, you work, you work, you work, you work, you work, you work it.
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: I know I don't like romance in my before and this is the song you've been waiting for Taking four, go, somebody, go, squeeze somebody, touch.
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: He turned off the light, got in, I work, it's all night.
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: One, one, one, one, two.
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: Welcome to episode 177 of the Qurayshabad podcast.
• 2:22
  Speaker 3: This episode is dedicated to all the hard work people do, all the hard work time to pay off.
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: It's the easiest week for the teachers who in standard 1, 2, 3, form 1 to 6 and 7.
• 2:38
  Speaker 3: 1st year in Sakharia, where you see the standard 5 people.
• 3:02
  Speaker 4: Welcome to episode 177.
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: Welcome back or welcome if it's your first time listening.
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: At the episode dedicated to hard work, there are some songs lined up about some hard work this time because, again, some people do some hard work for all their little young life, you know.
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you all it's time to get the reward of the hard work.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: So I take a minute quick to wish everybody all the best for the SA.
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: If you're listening to this after the SA, congratulations, congratulations there.
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: The exam and the work that you put in, that is when the success comes right.
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: Those are the results.
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: You can't control the results.
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: All you could do is what you do up to this point is get consistent.
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: See your hard work, your sacrifice, your nerves.
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: All you see are parents all their belly feeling.
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: I want to be fun after metric.
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: I want people to take their blood pressure, take their apple watch, check all their vitals and see how they go in before, all the days leading up to the combat entrance and the days that come after the combat entrance.
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: I remember my combat entrance days.
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: I wanted to think that.
• 4:13
  Speaker 3: Credit to little Miss Sinclair, but she was resting Peace.
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: One thing I always credit her for is that she carried me to play cricket the day before combat entrance To play cricket and football whole day in Savannah, and I hope in these trends now we could find a break.
• 4:24
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, with all the different things that they've done up to this point.
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: There's only so much you could do, and if the day before the exam you could find a way to do it.
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: The way it's called is called a brain cooler after the exam.
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: It has any name for a brain cooler before the exam, just to take a little pause.
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: But anyway, good best wishes to everybody who are participating.
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: They are looking forward to only having a long vacation and to taking it down.
• 4:48
  Speaker 3: Best wishes to only form standard.
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: Five teachers too, them teachers and them old, had a hoping day themselves could get a long break after this too.
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: It's time for freedom.
• 5:00
  Speaker 3: As we're talking freedom, I want to say real quick that one of the most important certain news I've seen for the week or let me bear with me a minute Now one of the most important news I've seen is the freedom of the great Adija Palmer.
• 5:11
  Speaker 3: If we're talking about trying being home for about four months with a vacation, it looked like, for all intents and purposes Great vibes cartel.
• 5:21
  Speaker 3: Adija Palmer should be home Now.
• 5:23
  Speaker 3: If you're custom listening to this right and you like to hear news about Kaiso and Calypso and you like to hear all them, old Kaiso and things, I encourage you to try to go on YouTube and listen to a few vibes cartel.
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: Listen to some cartel and open up your palate, open up your taste buds.
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: Is that Kaiso and Soka alone.
• 5:42
  Speaker 3: I had some cartel line up to play but I can't play them.
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to stay, I can't play them.
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: It's a lot.
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: It's a lot going on.
• 5:49
  Speaker 3: Cartel is no joke.
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: But I do want to say that we saw over the last week world news.
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: World news man is called himself the world boss when he make world news.
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: I'll just remember Ninjaman talking about this right.
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: Ninjaman said there was one point in time he had gotten he get released from jail or he get bail at some point in time, and he said the whole of BBC, everybody was there waiting to wait until cover stories about him and get interviews and them kind of things.
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: So he was basically saying I know Jamaican style, you know what I mean.
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: I was an internationally, globally recognized star and we had to say the same for Cartel.
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: No, right, because Cartel get released from jail.
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: It was covered by BBC, the New York Times, every single blog when you want to talk about Hollywood unlocked or shared room, tmz.
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: Everybody was covering it and it's impressive to see how much of an interest they will take in Cartel trial.
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: But let me read from the New York Times.
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: Right, I could do that.
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: I could read from the New York Times If he was under rock.
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: Last week, appeal squad overturned Vibes Cartel's murder conviction.
• 6:57
  Speaker 3: The murder conviction of the dancehall artist Vibes Cartel and trailer co-defendants was overturned on Thursday by the highest court of appeal for Jamaica and the other Commonwealth countries.
• 7:05
  Speaker 3: That is, the proofy council right.
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: Should be the Caribbean court of justice, but still proofy council right.
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: Vibes Cartel, born in Asia Palmer, had previously been convicted and given a life sentence in 2011 for the murder of Clive Williams, known as Lizard.
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: The sentence was later reduced to 32 and a half years Until the judicial committee had the proofy council in London overturned the conviction because of allegations of jury misconduct.
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: In the 2014 trial, a juror described in court documents as juror X was allowed to remain seated after a claim that the person had attempted to bribe other members of the jury.
• 7:37
  Speaker 3: Jurors ultimately convicted Mr Palmer, sean Campbell, k Hero Jones and Andre St John of Murder.
• 7:44
  Speaker 3: So, if you don't know, cartel was locked up for several years.
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: They've been here since 2011.
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: And even before that, right Before the trial.
• 7:53
  Speaker 3: So maybe 2010, 2009, maybe as early as that and he went to trial and got a life sentence reduced to two and a half years, which at his age is probably a life sentence as well.
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: But it was interesting listening to the overturn in the case.
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: There were so much.
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: Things went while the case was going on because the whole world was following the case while it was going on as well and people had questions about whether Cartel would be found guilty at all or whether you would again miss trial.
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: And I remember this being one of the main issues that I heard was that the jury was offered $500,000 bribes.
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: I hope it's $500,000 in the US, but $500,000 in a man right.
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: I did not realize at the time that it was a juror who was offering the other jury members that.
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: I mean allegedly the person who ever gets to that one juror trying to get them to overturn the jury, although my basic understanding and somebody got it different.
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: So to get a life sentence, you don't need all the people to vote like this.
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: Is it that all the people are to vote that way?
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: And maybe, I guess, the bribe?
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: I was never clear as to whether the bribe was to say Cartel is free or the bribe was to say Cartel guilty, but whatever it is, the case went on, even though there were allegations of this, and even the person who offered the other jury members bribes apparently remain on the jury council.
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: So what is Preview Council basically saying is that they would overturn the jury, that the verdict, their decision is to quash the whole thing and but it has to go back to the Jamaica High Court now to make a decision as to whether they will order a retrial or they will let him free.
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: He should be able to get bail.
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: I hope the bail is under the condition that he can perform in the islands of Trinidad and Tobago, and I shall be there.
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not missing that, but in the observer yesterday I saw Jamaica's chief prosecutor, paul Llewellyn.
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: King's council has moved to clarify her actions before the decision made by the N Supreme Court, justin Lenox Campbell during their 2014 murder trial of Entity in a Vibes Cartel and his court cues to continue the matter after he became aware of an attempt to bribe the 12-member jury to acquit the men.
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: Alright, so the bribe was to acquit them right.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: Clearly that bribe will work right.
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: But I guess it tainted regardless if they offered a bribe or if a juror offering another jury.
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: If I ain't trial for anything and a jury member offered the other jury members a bribe, I want to go home, send me home.
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: But I was listening to an interview, a radio interview with Miss Paul Llewellyn, and she was saying that jury tampering on these types of things pretty standard in her profession and a lot of times you have to weigh.
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: You have to weigh into, take into consideration how long the trial has been on, for how long the person has been in jail, how was the cost of it.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: And then she also added that this is a high profile case and your car just ordered a retrial for that, for something like murder where the person was still being jailed.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of understand where she's coming from, but of course Jamaica and the media seems to be coming down on her.
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: It seems as though you wanted a guilty verdict regardless.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: But if I have information that the jury is being bribed to say acquit and I allow the trial to continue.
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: It sounds to me like I run a new risk of people getting acquitted who I want to be found guilty.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: But anyway, this is where we are.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: She says she's not so sure about releasing him and the retrial and all that, but I feel as if the public pressure that they'll be put on them now, especially in the case of everything that has happened For some reason his lawyer was suspended for a certain amount of time so much, so much wrong.
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: The case Don't look right and it don't smell right.
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: That is my opinion that Carter would be free and I never hear to talk about serious issues or too much legal matters and talk about things outside my pay grade.
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: I just hear to put it out there that I am hoping my fingers and toes and everything is cross pause so that at some point in time we could see Carter in the national stadium.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: I just want to go ashore.
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: I just want to go ashore.
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: Be honest with you, dolly, I just want to go ashore really not to have so interesting and weird things happen.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: Sorry to the family and the man who lost.
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: I always try to temper my comments on Carter with the fact that somebody did lose their life and never family home morning and they ain't gonna be happy about none of this again.
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: One day I will come here and play a list.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: When I have enough time to find clean versions of Carter that I could play, I will come and play a long list of Carter songs.
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: Right, I promise only that.
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: But for now we just said free world boss, come, turn it out.
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: That should be your first concert, you know.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: I mean Buju came here very early in his freedom days and I'm the biggest Buju fan it have.
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: But certainly Carter, I will be there and a few people Salute my boy, just Evans out there.
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: There are a few people I know who is big Buju fans who went Jamaica for the show.
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: And if Carter is released and his first show is in Jamaica, say less, say less.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: I want to congratulate again.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: Last week, somehow I forget, I don't know that the things getting bad with me in my old age and after the pressure of this SCA done, because I could tell you this about SCA, right Me and do nothing when it comes to SCA.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: To tell you the truth, I should admit this as a parent right.
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: But I want to salute to Stacy who has been working with Zachary every day for the past 5 years and so on, with homework and following up on this and teaching him this and that Me and do one thing, me, and do one damn thing to contribute to this man.
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: Sca success.
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: But I know that was my belly hurting.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: I remember my mother.
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: I remember my mother.
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: I went home from SCA telling others and I think I got alright and with that one question I had to list you with that and I'm sure what was the answer for that I said but pretty much everything I could I write, you know I sure I pass or fat.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: I remember coming to him and telling them yeah, I pass or fat, but we good to go, don't worry about it.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: And the only time I met my mother, sick, the whole Albi had to come and pick me up and carry me.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: But I feel like the pressure mountain.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: I find like I want to lecture class Saturday.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: Salute to star network, star broadcasting school and every hour chest of some brand new and the folks in the TV course at star Nigel Nicholson.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: And again, I had to go there and lecture on Sunday about.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: Well, not lecture, but I had to do a presentation about podcasting, right, nigel called me and told me they have a course and people are asking about podcasting.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: So I'm now a podcasting facilitator.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: It's official.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: But I went to them.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: Salute to them.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: Some great youths.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, being a wrong youth is always a gear back of energy.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: But when the Sunday and I find like it's a little presentation, I'll do two, three hours.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: I do this all the time.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: I find like I don't know what's more like a tense.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: You know I mean my anxiety level high, like if I do any damn exam, so I blame it all on anxiety leading up to the exam.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not okay, I forget.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I say Abrams, why would I forget that?
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: I know my apologies, but I want to congratulate her because that was easily one of the biggest stories in the country last week and she went to the Miss World competition in Mumbai in India and she come forward.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: She come forward in the top four position.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Now I will admit that I did not know that so many people were still interested in Miss World and them things.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: It seemed to be one of them things where we're real interested when we win or when we do well, but when we win and we do well, we're not interested at all like we.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: There's no, there's no interest in these pageants at all.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: When we send somebody and you know, I saw somebody write about this where the level of support is poor, the level of funding and sponsorship is usually poor.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Before the exam, before the exam on my mind, before the pageants or anything that we have to send people to, the support is poor.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: But then when we go up and we win something, the support is great.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: This really show we up as trainees and maybe it's for a reason I didn't talk about it last week because she was coming close because of the time difference.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: It was the competition was an immediate day last week, saturday, so a lot of people with a tune then as well wasn't when we had too much people sleeping or had a stir up later watching.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: And Miss Czechoslovakia, czech Republic, where he's called him.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: She eventually won, but as she did very well, she wins some competitions within the competition and so on and she had a grand reception at the airport on Monday.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Tassad Pan and everybody, ting and your family and everybody, like, I wonder, like who sponsors these things?
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Not saying that they shouldn't do it right, I just wonder.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I always wonder about that, no matter who, like when Atto come back or when was my javelin partner named again Cash on World Cup when he came back, like who's organized these things?
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: And maybe it's the organizing committee.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Good girl, budget and in place for that.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: But I like to see that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: I like the reception.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: I would like to have a reception like that for every everybody who ever won represent us anyway.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: But I might be wishful thinking.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I suppose when you do well, you're always gonna have more attention on you.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: But hopefully we raise the bar, we raise the basement for what is attention you know, so that when you come forth you get all the accolades.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Or when you, when you get all the accolades I should get, but we should have a higher baseline for when you income nothing or when you're just going, so that we get more corporate sponsorship.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: The corporate sponsorship is going to follow eyeballs.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: So people.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: A lot of times we'll talk about the government and the funding and how corporate Trinidad do nothing for people and all these kind of things.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Just keep in mind that if 1.3 million people interested in something corporate and everybody else is going to spend their money behind it, if we seem disinterested in it, they know we're gonna sponsor it, for the corporate entities want to get something out of it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: There's two things they could get out of it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Number one is sales or some kind of marketing or branding or awareness for some product that they have or some brand that they push in.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: The second one is overall public relations for their brand name.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: So so case, as a company want to keep the name in a good light and you know you should tell us, think about corporate social responsibility and think companies would be interested in that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: In today's world.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: They talk about CSO, corporate CSR, corporate social responsibility, but we also talk about things like sustainability and all the new words I mean.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: The reality is that companies not gonna put a whole lot of money behind things unless the public, me and you show that we care about it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: But I do want to apologize and say congratulations to Achehe Brands.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Coming forth and anything is a big deal in a global competition and she make a run for it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: She make a run for the winner and happy for her, happy she get the reception she get.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: But I also want to take a minute to support our other queens, you know, I mean we can't just have Achehe as the queen and because she's queen, we in supporting the, the queens that we have right.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I want to play a clip from Info and pageant from a few weeks.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I want to apologize to this contestant as well.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Trinidad and Tobago is a cosmopolitan and multi-ethnic country.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: State, three ethnicities and a meal they are known for Alright.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Thank you, trinidad, are known for candy valve, steel pad and steele pad, steele pad and beaches, beaches or beaches, I don't know what you want to say.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: So look at everybody who go in for pageants as a surprise, as well as people still involved in pageants.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Pageants seem to be taking the road of a more intellectual type competition these days, and you know it's not so much of a I'll be kiddy and how good you're looking kind of competition anymore.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: But again, it's hard work to get to competitions like those.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: It's hard work to even place or come anywhere near the top of competitions like those.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: So we always want to take a minute to recognize them.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: And if we're doing that and we're tuned about hard work, we had to play this tune right.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Then it gets to the great ashe.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: When you do we me soar.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: But this thing that you do it, you don't know what you're for.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Feel my heart always beating.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Oh God, who do I need?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: If you want me, you hear, work it for me, work it, work it for me, girl, do the thing for me, work it for me, make it sweet for me.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Evening, when you do the free.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Darling, that does get me weak.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Every year, the star of the rainbow Sway and hide me for days, and just so Miss Kinder's crawls.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: And no, no, stop my dog.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Work it, work it for me.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: You gotta work it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Work it for me.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Make it sweet for me, girl, do the thing for me.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Spill it from for me, work it for me, move it down for me.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Girl, this thing that you do it, you don't know what you're for.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Feel my heart always beating.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Oh God, who do I need if you want me?
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Work it up for me, do the thing for me Work it up.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Actually, I went to do the thing for me.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not a person who's been doing anything for me for the longest while and we take a minute to say rest in peace To the great, great Jumbo.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Unmatchable, unmatchable character Of the highest order.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say character.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Character in terms of the character, the man, character in terms of the character that he portrays for his whole lifetime.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I have a philosophy about men like Jumbo.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't understand how we have a university here To university, right.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: University of Trinidad is a big one.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: University of the Westinies I couldn't talk about UBI.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I ain't reached UTT yet, right, but I headed there.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: But when we're talking, I went and do a whole marketing degree Twice, no matter what I do undergrad and bad masters in marketing.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: And at no point in time Any lecturer ever used somebody like Jumbo as a topic of you know.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: So we use Walmart as examples.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: We use Starbucks.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: We use the Seattle Pike Fish Place peak Whatever the people name over there Would throw the fish on this, make noise at them.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: We use Amazon when Amazon was still on the selling book.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: We use every single Nike, all these different companies, but somehow we do these degrees that made and raised in Trinidad and Tobago and is for Trinidad and Tobago and is designed, apparently quote-unquote, for us to work and contribute to the country and region as a whole, but somehow we do so much lessons on branding, but never about somebody like Jumbo.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I wanna talk about why I found men in the driver.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Let me get to the express so I could get.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I do reason.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I read the articles right.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: It's because I have a tendency To call people name wrong, say the wrong thing, pronounce thing wrong.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: So I try to safeguard myself by reading the articles right and I know I can't read so well, but all you'll be able to see are the headlines.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Trinidad's legendary nuts man, jumbo, has died.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Keith Martin, I don't know Jumbo's name or Keith Martin, right, I will tell you about my own personal interaction With Jumbo, but I want you to blow the no Jumbo real name right.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Keep that in mind.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Keith Martin, a man known to Trinidad and Tobago, has Jumbo, the nuts man, has died.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: His passing has widely been mourned by those who remember him Across at events across the island.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: In 2019, after an all cry from Cricket fans, local nuts vendors, including Jumbo, were allowed to continue selling Nuts at the CPL T20, cricket Tournament at the Queensborough.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I remember talking about that here, where the CPL came in and the back At the ticket all of a sudden said no vendors, no this, no that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: So imagine imagine somebody like Sunshine Snacks and there's no Knocking companies like these.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Right, because one of the local companies we had studied a lot at MBA level In Lockjack was Lockjack Company, which is Associated Brands.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Should I be talking about this?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Does this for my degree a question or a dispute or anything?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I don't want no problems.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: No, but while I went into Lockjack, I started MBA in Tuna Puna, right In Pachir Road, what you call Institute of Business, and the organization had just Transitioned from IOB into After Lockjack Graduate School of Business.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Right, they had just built the campus.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: We were the first graduates in class Outer Let me give myself a damn Hard work, hard work.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: We were the first graduates in class Outer Lockjack.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: And I remember the reason that the school was named After Lockjack Graduate School of Business, because After Lockjack made a $20 million Donation to the school like a Bursary donation I don't know what it was, but a contribution to the school and got title branding for the school and the debate that we had back then Was is it okay to name An institution like that over somebody who's still alive or should have did Unpostumously something I never talked of?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I believe in giving people the flowers While they're here, but the most seasoned and experienced People in the class would tell me Well, the risk is really if that person Does something that goes into disrepute.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: You know, if you find out that the name you know they named something Courage-upper Graduate School of Business.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Then you find out it's heavy drugs I was selling all the years, me, and no one damn thing about business.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I have a whole human trafficking ring Then it brings everybody who went to that school into disrepute because Now your name get inextricably linked With that person.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: But we were debating that back then.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: But it's so funny that Atal Loughjack entrepreneur, who should be celebrated and has done A lot for the development of Not just the business landscape but Trinidad and Tobago but Trinidad and Tobago as a whole Should be celebrated for that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: But in 2019, the company that he run as an entrepreneur Was making a move that would stop Other entrepreneurs like Jumbo From coming there to sell nuts, because them sell nuts too.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: No, business is fair game, right, competition is competition.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: But I always feel like we have a tendency to look at entrepreneurship In a very narrow way.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: So it's only if you reach a billion dollars and fame from business schools and business magazines and media and all that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: It seems as though people are not Recognized as entrepreneurs.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Because for all your life I know Jumbo Jumbo never worked for nobody.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I never see Jumbo with a lanyard.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: You know, the move now is to say as an entrepreneur and say that you're running business and them kind of thing.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: But when you're making videos online, you're lanyard in your top pocket.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: What's called a lanyard?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: You're lanyard with the ID card.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Which party you're working Is in your top pocket Because you're securing your monthly revenue, your government money or your job money From your private sector job, while you're billing anything, and nothing wrong with that either.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: That is also an entrepreneur.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: But we seem to only recognize the entrepreneur as the person who reached lock jack status or SAPG status or 1% status.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: But to say that I'm not sure why that's the case.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: But let me read on.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Cricket supporters became outraged Over the weekend after learning that Martin who has been selling nuts.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Stop saying Martin right, this is Jumbo, right, jumbo who has been selling nuts At the Oval for over decades, was no longer being allowed To do so for the CPL games.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Quote here saying this is Jumbo, the original nutsman.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I've been selling nuts at the Oval Since 1971 when Sunil Gavaskar made 200 runs Back to back and beat the Western needs and selling at CPL games the first four years.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: They're telling me that Sunshine Snacks, who is not 40 years?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: They're telling me I cast a lot of nuts.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Trinidad only take that.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Only want Jumbo nuts.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: In July 2023, legendary Batman, sunil Gavaskar, was honored by the Queen's Park Cricket Club With a plaque presented by president of the QPCC, dr Nigel Camacho.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Jumbo the nutsman Got the attention of Gavaskar, who went over To have a chat with him in front of the carib stand.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Now I'll say this right, jumbo could get the attention of people.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a professional.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Why did the Jumbo talk so off?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: He's always well dressed and looking.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: He will stand out wherever he go and he's a legendary status in Trinidad.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: So for him to meet Sunil Gavaskar Would be a huge deal and monument us, for us as Trinidadians, not just for Jumbo but for all of us.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Go and google who's Sunil Gavaskar If you don't know, not only does Jumbo relay his admiration, but you also serenade him with the words Of the Gavaskar Calypso, sung by a lord Relator Gavaskar the real master.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Just like a wall, we couldn't hold Gavaskar at all, which brought a big smile to the face Of the Indian great.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Can I squeeze in a little piece of Gavaskar?
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Can you know all the words for Gavaskar?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Can you better know song?
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: But the point I make here is that, well, first and foremost, rest in peace to Jumbo and condolences to his family, his fans, to the nation as a whole.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: And you know, when I see the reception At Asha Abrams would have gotten For coming forth in a In this world which she fully deserves, right?
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I wonder sometimes About how we treat our heroes like Jumbo.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe it could be question as how we define heroes.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Before I get into that, I want to talk about the Entrepreneurship thing for a little while.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Jumbo is a man.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: He spent a lot of time on the same thing.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: He says he's from right, but we claim in Jumbo Is officially from St James.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Coqueritas are part of St James, right?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: So let me put that order.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Let me put that order one time.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: But as far as I know, jumbo would have sell.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: He was selling nuts.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: He used to sell corn soup and my earliest memory of Jumbo Was in his stadium watching football.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I can't remember how small, maybe I wasn't into watching cricket as much, but I used to be in his stadium watching football a lot For some reason.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: And Jumbo had the, the.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: He had a brand built for himself.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: That was a textbook lesson or definition on how you go about building brands and so on.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: So think about this.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Right, nuts at the time in the stadium was a dollar.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Everybody used to sell nuts for a dollar and you could not sell more nuts for more than a dollar because of our economic concept called perfect competition.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: So what they say in our perfectly competitive market where all products are the same I talk about this a lot in marketing class too.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Right, when you look at a bag of nuts, one bag of salt nut is not differentiable enough from another bag of salt nuts to get the consumer to believe that you are nuts better than the next man nut Pause.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Right, it is a bag of nuts.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: It fits all the descriptions of what perfect competition is right.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: And when you go in the stadium to buy nuts, so let me say the stadium is the whole world and you had to buy nuts in there.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: The nuts man that you are likely to buy from is the one that is closest to you when you are hungry or when you need nuts or when you demand nuts.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: It is the same thing I was saying about doubles you are more likely to buy from doubles the man who is closer to you than any other one.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: So it is an extremely difficult place to compete because any in a market like that is called a price taker, meaning that the market sets the price and no one firm could sell for higher than the market price.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: So if you care, make nuts and sell it for a dollar and make a profit.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: You are out of the market.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: You will fail.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: So if it costs you $1.25 to sell, you cannot go and sell it for $1.50.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Because everybody in the stadium know a pack of nuts is a dollar.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Extremely difficult business to come through, right, but people come through it all the time and jumbo was one of those people who come through it because when everybody else was selling nuts for a dollar, jumbo price was $2.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: $1.50.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: 100% more than everybody else was selling in the stadium right Now again, how could that not be a lesson in business, in marketing, in economics.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I am not sure why we hide away so much from our own local examples of greatness and innovation and ingenuity and business acumen.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know why we hide away from it so much.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe when you become a billionaire, people believe you did something special with your life.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: But it might be that if you figure out anything to sell, you could be celebrate.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Hard to sell and hard to make money.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Ask anybody who has a business idea, who never tried how much they would give to have a business that mined them for the whole life.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: No lanyard.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: His name is known and now it might be a difference, but he would have had a name before that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: When you say the word jumbo, everybody in the country wouldn't know exactly who you are talking about and they will associate the brand with some specific things.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: So how was jumbo able to sell nuts for 100% more than everybody else in a perfectly competitive market where the whole market only willing to pay a dollar for a pack of nuts?
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: It's really because he creates a system and a brand among himself where people use to.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: You know you again when you demand or you're hungry, or you want a pack of nuts for half time.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: The nuts man closest to you is the one you want to buy from.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: But jumbo was known he's selling for $2 and man was waiting for jumbo to reach wrong to pay him the 100% more to get nuts from him.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Pause, so jumbo used to have this thing where he used to throw the nuts fail and the earliest days I remember jumbo, that to me, and people go out and remind me and tell me if he's true, because if he started in his 70s I would have known him late 80s, maybe early 90s, right, and what was happening was he used to have the big bags of nuts in the aisle.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: And again, he's a character.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: He has a serious kind of face but he quick to laugh.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: He wanted to and he was also very, very passionate about the sports that he was watching.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: He loved the cricket when he was watching it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: He loved the football.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: He come out there really back in the teams.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: So well, jumbo, trying to get jumbo attention for nuts.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: But you had to wait until a bowl, a bowl or a man on a break where he looking to score jumbo watching the game.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: You come back to you after because he's celebrating like any others fan in the stadium, right, but if you know the island stadium, he walking up the island and if you want nuts from any middle, now what used to happen is all the other nuts man used to come, either walk through the island they serve everybody or pass down the nuts and somebody send back down the money.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: What jumbo used to do is stay in the island, throw it for you and you send back down the money across the team right.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: That evolve into him being done by the base of the stands now and he just walking around the stands the lowest part of the stand picture, the stadium right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: The stadium easier to see it, where you could walk all the way around the bottom of the uncovered sand.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Jumbo walking down by the fence there and he's a jumbo here, not so all your jumbo and the name jumbo come from my understanding.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: He used to say the nuts, big grain nuts, right, but all nuts vendors they say that, remember the market, have all the information.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: They know it's a no, big grain nuts.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: All the nuts is the same sort of grain, right, but man waiting for jumbo.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: So jumbo, sit down there and he pelt up the thing now and people pass down the money.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Right, pass down your two dollars, pass down your hundred percent more and he develop a reputation for being accurate and being.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: You know I mean, and think about it again, talk about innovation and operational efficiency.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: While the other nuts men are the walk up the aisle, walk back, wrong.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: So walk through people.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Jumbo only walking around the smallest circle that the stadium after a full it had a time jumbo reached down and they track him because in the over now he not climbing up in no set of stands and going between people.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: And then jumbo walking around the field itself outside the boundary and through the nuts fear on any level in the over.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: He reaching up, he evolve again.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: And operational efficiency instead of get some youth men now, because you realize some people care, catch, if you're ting on your pelt and you miss your, hit somebody, a bus, the bag and it's on, you have no problem.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: And if it piles and he miss, your pelt back and next one for you and he was accurate.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: So, people, what you're paying two dollars for is a whole brand experience.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: In paying two dollars for the product alone, you're paying maybe a dollar for the nuts but the next dollar for the pelted and you catch it and a little laugh and you have a full experience, which is what they're studying, what they're teaching and branding today.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know how he could not be an example of that when he hired a youth man.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Now he's a truly well youth man collecting the money sometime.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: He had the option, if you want him to throw it to you and catch, or you want to youth man, catch there and he bill a brand for himself.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Over the years I also see him evolve and make a change.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: You went into corn soup, but that one time jumbo selling clothes.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: If the jumbo was just that guy and, above all, that he had a personal brand that was impossible to copy, I wonder how well men like them would do in this social media.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Wait at her, this era of social media.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Imagine jumbo having a tiktok page where you have somebody who walking around with you know that seems to be the right now.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Right when you're young and you're putting in your personal brand.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: You have somebody walking around with you, that camera.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: You see it a lot now somebody following you around with that camera and documenting everything you do and making reels, and all the artists have it now, right, but I wanted to imagine this jumbo do this in his 70s.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Why would I want to call it dark ages?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Are branding dark ages, at least personal, individual branding, where a big company like sunshine snacks could come and squeeze you out and them kind of thing you know I mean?
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: But in today's world is almost impossible to separate consumer from producer.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: In other words, anything you're selling you can sell direct to the consumer more easily, including your own personal brand, more easily than we could have ever do it before.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: So well, jumbo had a link with Trinidadian Nationals and his fans and his customer base that you can't copy it and it's hard to match it and it's almost emotional nature of brand.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Anyway, people feel about jumbo he didn't have the avenue to bring out his own personal brand because you only see in jumbo in a nut, not a match.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: If you only see him in a cricket match or football match or anything, you really go see jumbo outside of that.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to be able to interact and talk to jumbo a lot because he was a wrong.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Sin James was a little fellow teenager.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe in sin James you're going out there to buy food and think jumbo was a wrong jumbo selling console bright any corner.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I want to say Vidal Street and western main road.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: And one thing I'll tell you about him personally, right is, anybody who ever had an interaction with jumbo could tell you that he's going to say something positive, he's going to get some encouraging words.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: He go and tell a boy stay in school day or work, study, and that is that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Listen, that is not them.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Things don't happen by chance.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: That's how to be your character and who you are and what you strive to do in life and, to be honest, it is one of the things that I strive in to do and change.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Now I want to be able to.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I want to be in a position where everybody I meet have a better interaction of leave me feeling better, especially young people.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I want to be real conscious of more words and when young people come around me, tell them, tell them something that could speak life into them and make them feel good about their self and maybe accomplish something that they was having some doubts about.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: So I channeling the spirit of jumbo and I want to thank him for everything that he's done for the country.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: On behalf of all of us right, on behalf of everybody, I want to thank him for everything that he has done and I wish that there was a way to have a reception whether it be a funeral or otherwise for jumbo that could match the kind of heroes that, the kind of heroic welcome he had for Abrams which he deserved.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I wish we could have those types of those types of forums where other people you know and, as a bad example when you see a soak artist I want to remember when Devon Matius died you get to hear tributes from other soak artists and stuff.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: It would be great to hear tributes from everybody who was up and coming from the 70s and no jumbo and stuff all local celebrities, politicians, the do-gooders, the influences in society.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: It would be superb to be able to hear a little bit from them about what jumbo meant to them.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: A strain from the team a little bit.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Only because I see this Gavaskar song mentioned.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I want to get a little verse on our chorus because it's too bad, you know a lovely day for cricket blue skies and gentle breeze.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: The Indians are waiting now to play the West Indies.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: A signal from the umpire.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: The match is going to start.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: The cricket has come on the field.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: They all look very smart the boys the rail play cricket on any kind of wicked.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: They make the West Indies team look so bad.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: We was in all kind of trouble.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Joey Karoo, pull a muscle, get ball tree run out.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: We was in trouble, without a doubt.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: It was car master, just like a wall.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: We couldn't log a basket at all.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Not at all.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: You don't do.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: West Indies couldn't log a basket at all.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Ben Katarraha van baby in October.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Vj Jai Shema Jayantilal.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: They help to win the series against the West Indies at Sabina Park and Queens Park, oval 158 by Kanai Rally Santoma hope so high.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Noriega 9 for 95, the Indian team.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: They still survive.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: It was the master, the rail master, just like a wall.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: We couldn't log a basket at all, not at all.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: You know, the West Indies couldn't log a basket at all.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I wonder why Jumbo didn't take a pack of nuts and hit the basket on time.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Jumbo really hit a man come on see him 200 and two in two innings and he over Jumbo.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: You sure hit a man packing nuts, but again I want to celebrate the life of Jumbo and also not just, not just nuts man, like I say, character, because Jumbo is somebody who, as much as he work hard and I respect him as an entrepreneur, as a businessman, he man also play hard.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: He support all the sports he could have supported during his time.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: He also was in phase two panyard.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: At any given time you could find him at any cultural or sporting event, anything that is Trinidadian.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: You know Trinidadian and Tobago and you know true patriot.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: And he's a definition for me and I have a song here to play for him and it pretty much sums up what Jumbo is and the way he live his life, as I tell all their channel and channeling Jumbo going forward.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: So I want to leave this one as a dedicated dedication to the, to the businessman, entrepreneur, patriot, flag flyer and nuts man and corn soup man and no inspirational man, the great Jumbo a, I'm gonna take a little drink and I'm gonna do what I want and I'll go wine if I feel like I'm gonna leave what I want.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take a little drink and I'm gonna do what I want and I'm gonna wine.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: If I feel like no-transcript, I'm gonna drink and I'm gonna water once and I go whine if I feel like, hey, and I'm gonna live what I want.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Better know the prices.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Work hard, work hard, work hard, work hard.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Look me, I never chop a chop a land, chop a lever.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Chop a land.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, how could you have time to argue with nobody?
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Said we just livin' the good life ever remained?
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, said a n' go by the way.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's no, we already.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you money, you ready?
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Do we mash it up what we rip it up?
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: We rip it up.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: We mash it up what Get lemma flip up?
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: But I never pay back it up what Everybody see.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: We understand we are kiddos, you just live.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: They mash it up what we rip it up.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: We rip it up.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: We mash it up.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: What Get lemma flip up?
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: But I never pay back it up what Everybody see, we understand we are kiddos.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hey.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take a little drink and I'm gonna do what I want, and I'm gonna whine if I feel like, hey, and I'm gonna live what I want.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Hey, so I'm gonna take a little drink, hey, hey, and I'm gonna do what I want and I'm gonna whine if I feel like, hey, and I'm gonna live what I want.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Better know the prices Work, hard work, hard work, hard Work, hard work, hard Work, hard work, hard Work, hard work, hard Work, hard work, hard Work, hard work, hard Work, hard work, hard Work, hard work, hard Work hard.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: We have a little money in my pocket, but this is a man named Keith Martin recently released a great job because we talk more hard work, right?
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I saw I spy with my little eye something that I like a lot and you know what you think about it.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: About it is when I like it you go out and hear about it.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: That must be annoying, but I did see that the UK has made a step forward to implement a 4 day work week.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: So this one from Cheddar.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Cheddar is a news site and news blog and news instagram page in the UK.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: It said what's your take on a 4 day work week?
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: A study shows that 89% of businesses kept posted trial reporting happier staff and better recruitment.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: A majority are companies that participated in the world's biggest trial over a 4 day work week have made the policy permanent.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: And new report revealed In the experiment involving 61 UK companies, 89% implement a short end work week.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: In the experiment involving 61 UK companies, 89% still implement the short work week and 51% have made it a permanent shift One year later.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: And a follow up study by autonomy showed that all of the managers and CEOs involved in the study saw positive effects, with 55% find it very positive.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Companies noted that improvements in staff wellbeing was 82%, reduced turnover was 50% and better recruitment was 32%.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Some valid questions that people ask, like what happens in places like the hospitality industry our company, for instance.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: We hire merchandisers and promoters and I don't know that we could work 4 days out of a week Just because of how important a job function is on the front line.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I think that one of the things we had to look at as a whole is how we restructure compensation, because a 4 day work week I could see the benefit of a 4 day work week.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I remember Elon Musk coming into Twitter well, now, x right and he didn't like the idea too much of the 4 day work weeks and he worked from home.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: He had scrapped those both things as soon as he went into Twitter.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: He's like, well, they come back in your office and work everyday, kind of thing.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: But we're seeing more and more now where they will, because I mean, this is a construct, right.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: This come out from factory type work and service type work, where we have a 40 hour, 5 day work week and I don't think we've revised or revisited exactly how much the work has changed in terms of what work is and the way work has changed over the years, that may allow us to I'm not saying work less or more hours at first, but at least revisit the way we work.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: The 40 hour work week was real good and the Monday to Friday thing was real good when we were dealing with factories and so on and religion was a big part of the world and Saturday and Sunday was really just days for the most part.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: But now you're seeing us shifting all those different variables and maybe we're at a juncture in the world where we could revisit the way we work as a whole.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: I was talking to the other day about chat GPT and in all years I asked him about it and I was like brother, just put anything in chat GPT, you know it don't matter where you're working on or where you're thinking of or like let chat GPT replace Google for you and you're going to see a huge jump in your productivity Because I treat feature GPC like a draft.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: So, for instance, if I had a go and do a lecture on why jumbos are great on shop on you, I could basically put in and say HRGPTA, what's going on?
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I want to put up pointing with about 20 slides on entrepreneurship, I could start by saying tell me why Jumbo Nuts, manager in that, is a great entrepreneur.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: If it don't come up with nothing good, I can add from my knowledge and experience on whatever else I need to add at that point in time.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: So I treated like if I have a personal assistant or somebody to write a draft for me and then I will touch it up as somebody asked me for.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: A good friend of mine asked me for a recommendation letter the other day.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I feel good when people ask me for them kind of thing that I really like.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Plenty times he's getting a recommendation letter and you got to hit them the ballpark generics, right.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: But for him it would be important for me to write my real feeling into that letter, right, and I know it's important for him as well.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: So I drew up for the letter basically expressing me where I feel about this person professionally and personally.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: And then when I read it I said this looking sappy, I said all I did was take the whole letter, put it in HRGPTA and I said make this letter better for me.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: And then when they write it, I said make it better if they intend what the person using it for is XYZ and do it again and give it back in next draft.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: So I like chargeability because with AI now it giving me the opportunity to do these things.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: So, in other words, when I had to do slides for a class long time, I have class on a Saturday morning.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I need to go nowhere the Friday night.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I up till 2-3 morning on the Friday night because to do a thing on entrepreneurship I had to go back to the textbook find out.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, what is entrepreneurship?
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Give me a few different definitions.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Why is entrepreneurship important?
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: In academics?
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I guess some definitions about who say it's important, some definitions about who say it's not important.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: So I had to read all these things, pull out the slides, put my talking point Now go back to the start, remember what I want to talk about, so that I could successfully do a two or three hour class.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: To do a two or three hour class used to take me eight, nine hours to do every single time.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: So when you look at how quickly I could get out done, I want to add to that that I do have a lot of experience and I've lectured for since 2010 maybe I've done hundreds of courses at Masters and Bachelors.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's up with that?
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not even close.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: I work hard in this life Seven days a week.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I have courses right Every day after work and then whole day Saturday and Sunday.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: I work hard.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: So I'm saying that I could do that because when chat GPC puts out something and I see it is, I'm going to get to the end result faster.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: But I just experience on life.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: But again it's then taking me nine hours to come up with no presentation on nothing.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Same thing with business proposals.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: It used to take you a whole day.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I remember working on proposals, daddy and the many office there, and at time daddy tell mom I work in a proposal, some joke man making the office.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: He's like hey guys, get back on track, a minute is a minute, this man a player.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: No, you can basically ask your GPC to do like tell it what you want and give it a whole proposal and then you basically know I turn editor, I turn editor, I just read and true and making adjustments and making changes and do what I have to do.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Again, they have sites like up oak, sites like Wellington has a lot of it where you can get personal assistants are fiver and so on.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: So sometimes the night before I have a presentation to do, when I used to sit down in PowerPoint trying to design thing and put it together.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Now I go on up I pay somebody $15 to rework my whole presentation and put it together so I might think looking like if it well, properly designed and animations coming in, and you know, I mean for a lot less.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: So the point I get is we working in a world now where the tools that we have, we could get a lot more done in a eight hour period and we could work a lot faster than we were working before.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: And I want to say as well that because, especially when you look at cerebral work, right, brain work, anybody in them professions could tell you about burnout, right where they are right.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Or your engineer, your Tony.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: You see that type of work.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: When you're working for long periods of time, you need to get the rest benefits you more than more work.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: I could play like that.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: So if you reset creative people and so on, if you reset and you get a pause, you tend to come back at the task a little fresher than it was before, like every morning.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: When I wake up, right, I go to the New York Times, as do wordal connections, ways are put together the four words, then I do the crossword and I do one called tiles.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: I don't like tile one too much, you know.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I do them things and I play dueling, go and dies more way to get my brain started for the day.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: So once I, once I up and running for the day, I feel like I could challenge you day better.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: But inevitably I look at now last weekend I will call week.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Last week I studied this essay hitting on my mind, although me into a damn thing.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Then our class Saturday and our class Sunday and then this is so I'm gonna chance to pause and reset and reflect and you know I mean so right now I feel in burnout levels.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: I feel in high levels anxiety.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like everything get into my little bit because it's a lot happening at once.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: So a little pause and you know they're just just little things.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: A little get away, not saying I don't go and spend money to fly and go somewhere and take money.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Just go by the beach.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: You know I ain't going to get money to get these therapist people and them psychologists and things.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: A little new.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: All of this time about self-care, right, whether self-care is look like for you, go and play some kid with Kenyan and I ain't play kid with Kenyan them in a long, long time.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: All them thing is thing where.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Think of it like a pressure valve.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: That is a real thing, me and I'm not them thing, you know.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: But if you could release the pressure every now and again you could come back fresher.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: And I think that was the point of the global study to see if, okay with the way we work now.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Are there industries or are there fields where we could actually pay people the same amount and short new workweek so that they get a longer off period, especially against the backdrop where most youths now not millennials probably, but typically particularly Gen X and Gen Y then follow that one and two and three jobs and things like what you would hear people talking more to in the 80s, where you know if the immigrant gone to New York to live them working two, three jobs.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Now you're finding more and more people.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: You have what you call a gig economy, doing your regular job, but you also have little things you do on the side.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: You have a YouTube channel, you have Instagram pages, ponyl, you have promoters, do little events and tropati and thing.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Or you know you have designer, you do the designs and things on the side.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: So people have more of those things going on and if you create more space for them you can end up with happier employees.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: In Fortune magazine I also saw Bernie Sanders, senator Bernie Sanders from Vomount.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Right, he say here's how Bernie Sanders wants to give you a tour to the two all week week.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: So again, same four days, right, fortune all week has been standard in the US for more than eight decades.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: Now some members of Congress want to give hourly workers an extra day off.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Senator Bernie Sanders, the far left independent from Vomount, this week introduced a bill that would shorten to 32 hours the amount of time many Americans can work each week before they're old, over time.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Given advances in automation, robotics, artificial intelligence, sanders says US companies can afford to give companies more time off without cutting their pay and benefits.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Critics say a mandated shorter workweek would force many companies to hire additional workers or lose productivity.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: So that is a concern, if we like.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: For instance, if I have to do four workweeks now by us, we probably have to hire more people and then the cost of our service would go up.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: If the cost of our service goes up to our clients, the cost of their products would go up eventually.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: So you could end up with a similar situation like what we spoke about with the increase in minimum wage.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: So it seems as though most of the arguments around this they're holding up now for knowledge type work and not necessarily face to face or like customer service or retail and those types of spaces changing.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: But the reality is that retail space and all those things changing at the same time.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: So what Sanders will propose to do we built Sanders introduced on Wednesday and his standards would reduce his standard workweek from 40 hours to 32 hours.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Employers would be prohibited from reducing their workers pay and benefits to match the lost hours.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: That means people who currently work Monday to Friday 8 hours per day would get to add an extra day to their weekend.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Workers eligible for overtime would get paid extra for exceeding 32 hours as opposed to 40 hours.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: It is now Same thing here, right?
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Sanders said the work time reductions would be phased in over 4 years.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: He held her hair and pulled her nose out on Tuesday and he said one recent study of British companies.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: So they refer to the same study of British companies and showed how happy people are and I mean it's unfortunate magazine, right?
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: So just go and google who any Sanders?
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: My broader discussion here for me is can we implement a system like that here?
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: How well would that work in trend that and Tobago, if we go to a 4 day workweek?
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Some of the oil companies I want to say BP in particular, right, although if I do the oil money you will remind me right, but I think all these do.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Waiters are 10, 80, 5, 40, 4, 20, all these do some kind of thing in the oil companies.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Mr Yee, the cook or call man, tell me all these do.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I can't remember the name of the thing, but I know that they work like a longer day during the week and then they have every other Friday off.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: I hope I had had some work lost already.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Is that waiters, all these work normal days and just get every Friday off?
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: And how does work if you work from home?
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: If you work your 5 days from home, you still get the extra Friday over meals.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Somebody had to help me with this, but they have versions of it and variations that typically seem to be not affecting the employee, or at least not affecting employee negatively, but, you know, having a positive impact on the employee and also having a positive impact on the organization as, from a business standpoint, some of it a little worrying to me, to be honest, because I could see where our costs going up significantly if that is implemented across the board and trend that because we have people who we have to service customers 7 days a week.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: So we are already in a situation where if we have people working 7 days a week to get the overtime on them kind of thing which we try to discourage, you know.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: I mean people need a break.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: People might not realize how much they need a break until they break down.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: But in cases like those, I either find myself in a position where we have to pay much more overtime because think of it now, as we have to pay overtime for Saturday and Sunday, but now we have to pay overtime for Friday, saturday and Sunday it gets expensive to do.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not against it.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that we profitable still, because it's either we are far reduced level of service, which means if you implement something like this, we can end up employing less people and just have less coverage, or you end up having more people and in a situation where your cost is going up and the consumer will pay for that cost eventually.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: I just want to know what is the net effect or the net benefit on society, particularly in the case of small companies like ours.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Not going to move the needle nationally, but the biggest employer we have now is the government, and if the government moves to a system like this, now the dollars that will be affected is the dollars we don't care about, right, the taxpayers dollars, we don't care about that.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Once you take that, we only care about net income, right, but once your taxpayers dollars, once it once the government burden on the salary salaries for public servants goes up again, the price of everything is going to start rising fast and I wonder if it's something that we could, we could, live with.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: I wonder if we're looking at societies like USA who want to implement things like this, and we're looking at parts of what they do and parts of how the society operates, and a lot of them don't apply to us.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's have the same working culture as the US or the UK.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we consider that they don't have the same public sector burden that we have in the US, that we have here and the government is he want to pay, especially against the backdrop of an increase in property tax being met.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: The way it is being met now already tells me that the taxpayer fed up.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: We don't want to pay no more money for nothing.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: So the property tax the discussion there is whether there should be a local government tax and that should go to, like the borough corporation so that they make sure that your area good, like what the US has, that right, state taxes versus federal taxes or based on municipalities and districts and so on.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: But that's a broader discussion that I'm not seeing much of either.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: If property taxes go to local government right, think about this it means that the property tax is based on your rental value of the market value of the property right.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: And if you put that in local government, meaning that when I collect property tax for shaguanas that is used to fix up shaguanas I want to appreciate the gap that is going to create a, because property values in Sinclair and Federation Park and good Westmoreens and Goodwood Park and Ellens Lea what they call a place and all these types of things way higher the property values way higher than they are in shaguanas or even places like Laventil and Seelot and Beetsham.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Right, the property tax is way higher in some of these areas.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: So what I mean?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: They're saying that to say that when they collect these loud sums of money as property tax in those municipalities or those local government districts or whatever you call them, and that is reinvested into that area.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: I wonder if we look at some of the things that happen in the states and compare ourselves to them, when our culture is very different to that right.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: It means that areas like those are going to get fixed up even more than they done.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: They done fix up better than shaguanas and then place a real right because it have no way you could drive through in Westmoreens.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: We're building on top of building and man adding on thing and on cycling thing and the road pay wall, how and them thing.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: No work in the them areas.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Them thing is work here, in shaguanas, right.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: So if you collect property tax and make it a local government, so whatever the local government collect, that is what they could reinvest in the community.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: We're going to see a much bigger gap between the wealthier areas and the poorer areas.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Let me add to that right, the states have a way when they collect taxes as state taxes, they also use that to apply to all public programs like schooling.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: So imagine, imagine this now we don't have a gap with kind of quality of schools you could go to in certain areas and then kind of thing.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Imagine if that money is invested.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: So when you, when you import a spain and environs, because of the amount that they collect in property taxes as dense population and more expensive properties, so they collect in plenty more in property tax, both in volume and dollar value, and then they put that into the schools name area, just be prepared for how much of a gap that going to create.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Right, if, if that zero, they're going to see the drop it from 3% to 2%.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: The point backer they seem to be moving along lines at the opposition.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Then corn for before, where they have a separate valuation console because some of the things will out the work, right.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: But whatever it is, the property tax is coming.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: So the question is, when you, when you have things like property taxes, you move to things like a four day work week and you change the structure of how the country is collecting taxes and how much taxes we need to pay, then you reduce at the same time the amount of hours that public service servants working or you add a significant amount of overtime to public servants, because I don't know if we as consumers willing to say that licensing is only open four days a week now because it's three day weekends and I don't know if we're ready for that.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we will take that on.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: But again, that's something to continue to look at.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders promoting that.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders looking at he looking at that phenomenon over 4 years.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: So maybe it's a place for us to start to just observe what happens in the UK in particular, but in the states, when they implement things like that, and see how applicability starts.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: But what I could tell you is that once you're tablet in this country, you're gonna find a 100% response is that we're waiting for you to implement that right now.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: But every single family 40 year old boy should leads and should have incredible.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I'm drinking one today.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: I have been fucked today.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, holiday, today is a holiday.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: I don't care what the body say, I'm not going to work today.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Holiday.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Today is a holiday.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: I don't care what the body say I'm not doing no work today.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: I'm on the road.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: I'm on the road.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do the beat.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do the club.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bull body or straw Up and down.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, down down.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: If it's a birthday, turn up, get drunk, get your face, get mine.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: When we're through, then come around, drink some and sing along.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Holiday, today is a holiday.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I don't care what the body say, I'm not going to work today.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Holiday today is a holiday.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I don't care what the body say, I'm not doing no work today.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bring the bags, let me pump and then we drink and drink till we drunk Pop bottles.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: You know we, the bar, must bust when you see we, the team, we drinking some bad girl, we linking what up pickers, what up slim ding, same timing, sing along with it If you're arguing.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: On my part, holiday today is a holiday.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: I don't care what the body say.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to work on Friday.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Holiday today is a holiday and you know when he'll ask for seven hours.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: But if they give you a four day work, we go all April 4.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: They prefer the Friday or for the Monday or for the three week either.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about this SSAT thing.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: I'm watching this thing and it's carrying Over from week to week and I'm hoping it die and natural so I don't have to talk about it.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: But it look like that is not the case.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: I want to salute Jude and Naldo the alternative perspective podcast.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: I'll give you one a month, now Monthly.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: It's going to be bad, it's going to be so bad if I'll give you one a month, one every six weeks, self.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: You see, these types of issues is where I used to Get away with not talking about them at all, because Jude and them will talk about this and I declare that when they don't talk about it.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Now At least I understand what I read and hopefully Come and talk about that.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: So once a month, what we do, 12 a year.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: I read it from the Guardian here and if you don't know the issue I have been following.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: The SSA, the Security Services Agency, came into the news a couple weeks ago and basically Almost this monthly whole organization.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Under strange circumstances I didn't see clearly when they first break the story, like what was the reason for this, and it seems as though the media has been doing their work To find out what was the reason.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: When they find out what was the reason and the things behind it, it sounds very, very trinidadian.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: I want to read from Guardian here, from Asher Javed, that says as the TNT police continues their investigation Into the Security Services Agency's shakeup, they have now interviewed Pastor Ian Brown, the man that descended the issue Contacted yesterday.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Brown told Guardian Media yes, I was questioned with matters that had no connection To the warrant.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: The warrant is a scam and I don't know if or what they could have Would have planted there.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: They were all over the house and I was not given the opportunity To see what they were doing.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Neither were my family allowed.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: They were all made to stand up outside in the Hudson.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: I'm discovering daily items missing from my office and cupboards.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: They're going to do things.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: Last week Brown stepped forward and identified himself as a spy with the agency After the Arima property was raided on Reading on March 9.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: Brown and Seoul Guardian Media that is rational for going public last week Was to protect members of his troops Still employed at the SSA whose jobs he believed were on the line.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: One of the people he claimed affected as his son, who was employed at the agency before him.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: He has said that he was keeping watch over how the matters are handled and dependent on the outcome will determine the next course of his action.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Despite the ongoing investigation of the agency, the anti-interrogation by police, brown insisted yesterday that he is still employed and, unlike other employees who have had the equipment seized and security clearances revoked, he still has his SSA issued fire.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: Last week about five SSA members from Defense and cyber operation units, including Deputy Director of Intelligence Joanne Daniel and Brown's son, were suspended.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: The SSA this is acting SSA Director Anthony Phillips Spencer continues His probe into the agency's operations and operations, hiring practices and vulnerability At the organization.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: One question on the next move following the suspension.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Brown answered.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: I am speaking on my lawyers only.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: So the thing about this is this right, they went in, they basically disband the organization.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: They went in, they seized fire.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: People get suspended.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: They suspend all For the forensic testing.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: And the pastor come out.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: He was the one who released the part where Nobody was saying that Nymedia was asking questions and not getting answers.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: But, brown, he come out and say he's a spy and that is where you work.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you should say that if you're a spy, because there's no longer going to be no spy, if you come out and say a spy but he say not suspended, he still have his job, he still have all his accreditation to get in the building and all that, which would worry me because if you're a spy, maybe you should be the first person where they Revoke your firearm and do them things.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: If they're trying to get you away from them, if they're trying to extricate you from the whole situation.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: What we really doing here spy.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: But the deeper issue for me here is Number one, not so much that he's a pastor, but he's a pastor.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: It was found that he hiring practices and there are several people in the organization who are members of his church and hired directly by him and so on.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: They say his son was working there before him.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: So it's a little bit.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: What is that Reverse nepotism?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: And he's just bringing it for the.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's coming to think about it.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: The first guy SSI, the first man everyone look for, is Kenny.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: You know, we gonna have our time, we gonna have our time.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: He's so hectic trying to figure out how to make money.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: We gonna need SSI and make money, but the thing about this is almost like, every ten years or so, like you find, that Trinidad and Tobago Remind us about things like this, where we have at the root Of the decisions that we make and the people who advise, the people who make decisions on our behalf, because we might not easily Elect a pastor or a pundit or a imam.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a little difficult, right, because the country might be divided along religious or even racial lines in some cases, and it's gonna be hard.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: None of these political parties gonna put up a imam and say this is imam running in place, and you know we seem to shy away from that, but behind closed doors we seem to have very little issue with these people being advised by religious leaders and so on.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Like I don't know if people really remember the name Yersina Gonzalez.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: You remember Yersina Gonzalez?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Wait, which one was Yersina Gonzalez?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: That was the one who was on the radio All the time.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I always remember Sprangalang Mocking this woman and she was real upset and Sprangalang was working for one or two at a time and she used to have a show and Sprangalang had a show and every time Sprangalang took and Sprangalang mocking this woman and upset her wicked man.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: You must never forget these fellas.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: They're comedians, right, they're some great Sprangalang.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: But Yersina Gonzalez used to come on the radio all the time and openly make predictions.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: So people, and when people call in, they say this, that, and you know what I mean, and Yersina gave them a little prediction and all them kind of things.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: It's a poverty course here when we have.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: You know, I was listening to something the other day.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: Joe Button was interviewing Candice Owens and Candice Owens was saying If you follow the money in the state, you could find out where everything is.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: She was saying corporations are the ones who really run the US.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: So once you find out what the corporations do and not the wealthiest individuals do, and you figure out what's going to happen next in the US or where things are going to go.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: I want to say that trend that might be slightly different.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: I must say I like to comment on about the 1% Of people who might be leading this country Is really religious leaders.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Everybody have an advisor, or a priest friend or a pastor friend or a mam friend or something that run any place.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: So when Yersina Gonzalez was the biggest thing on radio At the point of time doing predictions, people quite normal in this society Well, you remember Patrick Manning had a spiritual advisor.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: I want to say that he didn't just have a spiritual advisor.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: Might be the end of him, because when the stories came out that he was travelling with this woman and I think that was a Trinidadian man the first thing you go think is you're travelling With this spiritual advisor.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: But it seemed to be nothing like that.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: It seemed to be genuinely.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: He had this woman, the woman named as Pena, traveling with him and advising him on different things.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: You should do that.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: I could read that whole article for you.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: It's from the Guardian a long, long time ago.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: It said Mystery surrounds prophetess Pena.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Who is Juliana Pena?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: She remains an illusive and mysterious to the population and has been labelled as Patrick Manning's prophetess.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: She was once a member of the Jesus delight of the world ministries On Cemetery Street Heights of Guanapo, arimo.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: Evangelist Shulann Furman said that there was a rift and Pena left, taking some members of the flock with her.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: As a flock, furman said, she adiose out of tongue.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Pena's name is now linked with the contentious church Named Lighthouse Ministries of Christ.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: But there are other facts on Pena.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: She's Arimi and her family and the Pureras and her child, whom is Arimo all road.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: It is located as Stone's Broadway.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: I want to get to the part where she was talking to Manning, where the part gone, they say here.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Furman said Pena started getting prophecy and took it to Manning.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: The Lord used her to carry messages to him.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: He sent her to him to guide so she could hear God's voice.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: He sent her to him to guide so she could hear God's voice.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: On the issue of the controversial church, because they had a church she had built in Arima, the church that she built and the question was the wrong weather, state funds was going towards that church and all that.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: So they say on the question of the, on the issue of the controversial church.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Furman said the Rev had plans before.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: There were plans for vegetable gardens On a house and pasta premises.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: All that happened was we were in a house and we had plans to build a church over there.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: She said the Lord gave us the vision.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: The middle of the building is glass.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: That is for the light of the Lord to come in.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: On the flip side, furman said Manning was chosen to lead TNT.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: She also said when Pena was in Africa she remembered the congregation, for example.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Furman said also that Pena got arrogant and that led to her downfall.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: There was a quarrel between the prophetess Cindy Leblanc and Pena.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: Furman said that she had the interview and quite the controversy by praying with her niece.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Furman said that Pena visits her big brother.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: So let's get to the point.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: Pena was aligned to Manning very, very closely and Manning Come out and say that that was a spiritual advisor and so on, in a popular calypso, in a palestate of mind.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: When Sanskabro Enquired Manning, did you get rid of the obi-a-oman?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: Some religious leaders have claimed that divine revelation told Manning he should get rid of her, but he hasn't.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: There have been leaders who said they can confirm her linkages with Manning.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: One leader has not to be identified, but they said Pena sat on the platform at a religious convention In 2006 in which Nigerian pastor Daniel Ekichu Kuu.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: He was a special guest.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: She was on the platform at Woodford Square by special request by the prime minister that his friend get her seat.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: She was representing the prime minister.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: After the convention, she even visited Africa.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: Leader also said that one pastor Even had a word for Mr Manning that there was a lady Close to him and he should be careful, very, very, um, I would say very, very trunidadian.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: So when he first thought, to this day, one of our, one of the agencies that we go into, need, so we can, and very, very functional and efficient right now.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: Right, there's any security agency in this country.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Given the poor job we do in managing crime in the country detecting crime, bringing people to justice, preventing crime, deterring people from crime, controlling the borders I would think that any organization that is built around security here would be a priority.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: Right, that's a gift, right, and we have a man who is the head of it, who is pulling in a whole church to do the work.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: Not that anybody in the church care to do the work, but it just does not look right.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: But it fits with our culture because we have a commissioner, a police, who just saying prayers I don't know if she passed a Dr Brown church, you know what I mean, I don't know, but she's just going back to prayers every time.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: He started talking about crime, and you know what I mean.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: But it's very, very, very much a part of our culture.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: Remember Robinson coming and saying he's choosing his take on his two seats to the PNM versus moral and spiritual values.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: He's like, okay, well, what's whose spiritual values?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to guess it's yours.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: You're right to do that.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: And the idea of spiritual advice on the thing seemed to be quite the norm.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: In turn, that, even most recent.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: I only about evangelists.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: I was almost swaggered some weeks ago on them.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: I told them thing gone through.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: But evangelists, just last week this Ram Babu was in Trinidad and you see, kamlo went and get blessings and them kind of thing.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: People went to Skinner Park and them kind of events.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: And then Ramino, they're talking about entrepreneurship.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Well, they want to get like, get together and make some little church event, mchurch event, no, busing Mchurch event.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: No, like fat and thing.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: When you see you put Mchurch event something, you know if it's a guilt or you know what I mean, whatever it is, but people just come out to them events and then for those Ramo Skinner Park, and then they went on Ramo Di Savano and Kamlo went to.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Kamlo went up for a while, blessings and them kind of thing.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: So it seems to be that leadership in this country, while the states might be more along the lines of corporations, maybe, if you forget the corporations and forgetting money, what we really should be working at is understanding who are the spiritual advisors, what your religious leaders, and then you're going to start to see how the country really running.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: But I mean all that is above my pay grade.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:21:29
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• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: Going Direct and mundane and without context, as we still teach it in schools.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody could pick up on that.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: When you're telling me about Algebraic expression and so on, and this is X and this is Y, that must be something like Gibberish to he.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: He must be here in Amarak shaking in the head while they talk, mother, because it gives you very little context as to what this thing is going to be used for, what benefit it have for you in life.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: How does it apply to the thing that you love, which is Kaiso and Calypso and music and shaking in Amarak and drumming and I'm not just saying Calypso or Kaiso.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: You know, whatever you want to do, never.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: Little girl as well I admire greatly.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: I remember her sending me a video of a Kitchena song she sang.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: I want to say is Raino Ramo?
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, you hear this little girl singing Raino Ramo, she in Bollywood, kitchener.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: She put on the hat and the outfit and she doing the dance.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: And to me, when I see her do that and I sit down with her and I teach her a song.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: It was a back and all 1950 carnival fight for so with invaders and Tokyo did my friend run and left his hat when they hit my baseball.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: Bad, never me again the jumping and steel burning potter's pain.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: I teach her that song Ride Only lyrics.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: And again when she started, ride Only lyrics.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: Now I start to see mistaken spelling.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: I say fix that, fix that, the spell, that right.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: I say, if you want to write Calypso, you want to write music.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: And she, she, she have a different attitude to what her mother and also in she have a different attitude now to fix any word, the spelling of the word, than when they just teach in her English.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: And I thinking, but this is where I do with him trend, understand that she doing that, she doing a city as well, they say, but she doing dance and she doing.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: And I thinking, listen, we had to start with the passion first.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: I don't have the answers.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: I never had answers.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: I was only coming here to ask questions right.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: But if we take this trend, we start with the passion first.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: We find something they interested in first and then we start to teach them the essentials of life, like maths and English, how that matters, essential, little manners and them thing, nice.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: Essential like social studies and little bit of science.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: So you know how things work, essential.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: But then cooking, essential cleanliness.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: Listen, I make some peace.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: The other day Zachary ask me why you make sour peas.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: Because see, black eyed peas and I troll, black eyed peas and trying to cook it tastes horrible.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: Is only then the tell them well, you're supposed to wash out them peas, you can cook that in that brain, doing a little taxes.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: Essential understanding and salute and receive and the team they also.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: They headed to Frisco Texas.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: I have a funny story to tell about Frisco Texas.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: You know, before I get into this pyro song, zachary come and tell me he and he uncle Barney salute to Barney, right, barney's want to say on the 17 national coach or assistant coach something.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: So definitely coach a Rima, some school in a Rima, right.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: But Barney and Zachary is too blind.
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  Speaker 3: Know who know the most about football?
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: They can ask them not much any year.
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  Speaker 3: Them know everything about football and which players know everything.
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  Speaker 3: And Barney telling me, boy, zachary, real, no football.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: I said, but as all he's doing, you always on YouTube studying football and this and that and the other, right, so I tell them about that.
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  Speaker 3: And but Zachary come and ask me, say you want to?
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: He want to go to football with Uncle Barney on the 23rd.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: I said, alright, all come on, entrance done.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: You could go to think, but you need to learn more.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: The ticket tonight.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: A little story last week, maybe I tell all the last week, but you already hear it again.
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  Speaker 3: He keep telling me what he ticket, the ticket, the ticket.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: I says actually you get it to get what's going on with his football.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: I, if it's not playing, I probably go into, only to find out that neither he know Barney realize that the game was in fresco Texas.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: So I'm like when I, when I see where it is, I say, but with Barney is playing, ticket Barney trying to put me in expense.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: I started feeling sorry for Barney one time.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: Guys, he's actually going to talk off Barney face and now flight the V-Gang kind of carries boys of fresco Texas.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: But salute to the team, best wishes to them.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: If they beat Canada we should be in the in the Copa America.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: I hope I understand that well enough, but I want to play this education song before I wrap up and get out of here.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: You eduction, education.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: This is function home.
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  Speaker 1: Our rising population needs sound education To be recognized anywhere you go, you gotta have your certificate to show To enjoy any kind of happiness.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: Knowledge is the key to success.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: Share and go to school and learn well, otherwise later on in life you go catch red hell.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: With all that education in your head, your whole life will be your misery.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: Your better off dead, for there is simply no room in this whole wide world For an uneducated little boy or girl.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Do I know I look companions?
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: To lead you astray?
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: To earn tomorrow, you're going to learn today.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: Music For employment, yes, employment.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: You must be intelligent.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: So it's essential, very essential, to have your credentials.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: But is your block headed like a meal?
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: You'll remember no one will employ a fool.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: You will be the last one to be hired and the very first one to be fired.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: Share and go to school and learn well, otherwise later on in life you go catch red hell.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: With all that education in your head, your whole life will be your misery.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: Your better off dead, for there is simply no room in this whole wide world For an uneducated little boy or girl.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Do I know I look companions or you will get burned.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: To earn, to earn, you're going to learn Music, illiteracy.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: Illiteracy is much more than any Music.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: It's your duty, yes, your duty, stamp it on concrete.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: Ignorance always in people's hands.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Education saves you much in stress.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: So learn, learn, learn as much as you can.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Your nation's future is in your hands.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: Share and go to school and learn well.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: Otherwise later on in life you go catch red hell.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: With all that education in your head, your whole life will be your misery.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Your better off dead, for there is simply no room in this whole wide world For an uneducated little boy or girl.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Do I know I look companions or you will get burned.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: To earn, to earn, you're going to learn Music, music.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: It's a treasure, yes, a treasure beyond any measure.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: So secure it, just secure it.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: No other exalt, I set the fire in life's battle's.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: Company.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: Education will light up your way.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Without it, you'll never, never, never get through Success or failure.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: Now it is up to you Share and go to school and learn well, otherwise later on in life you go catch red hell.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: With all that education in your head, your whole life will be your misery, your better off dead.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: For there is simply no room in this whole wide world For an uneducated little boy or girl.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: Do I know I look companions?
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Or you will get burned To earn, to earn, you're going to learn Music.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: I'll even hold it there, you know.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: I really come here just to say good luck to all the parents who are writing their CA for their children.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: You barely heard it.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: You feeling all kind of pain and anxiety rising and so on.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: They care, they care, sleep.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: I come to say hello to all here and good luck.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: I come to say hello to the teachers and the principals and everybody involved who care, they care, sleep, they study this child and that child and they remember that and they push in the last little bit they could do any time that they could do it.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: But most importantly, of course, to all the children who are writing their CA, there are other songs for you to sing.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: You know it's impossible, boy, that I said.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: Don't just sing this song, you know.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: Understand what this song mean and don't let the definition of education have anything to do with this exam.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: Only going to write to the definition of education, plenty broader than that.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: But whatever the definition is, as broad as it might be, learn as much as you can learn in this life, because to earn you have to learn, and it don't matter whether you learn that in school, you learn it in dance class, you learn it in extra lessons.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: It also don't matter if you learn it at 11 or you learn it at 25.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: Continue to learn and continue to advance this little body.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: Most important thing I want to leave all your witnesses for is to send this message to all them same parents who are now tank, and all them same teachers and principals and everybody who are now tank.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: You can tell them this for me.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: Somebody, you, you, you.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: You, you.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: Don't forget Roger Jones part of that song.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: I just had to say that before I go.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: But again, good luck to everybody who are taking part in the exam or they have a long break coming up, as Marshall Say.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean only in the game for the next.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: How much ever months only home.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: You know what we go do with all the.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: I mean if the trend home and they taking a long break, you think this podcast could take a long break to uncheck all the back in September, I don't know.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, before I go, you know is one more thing I want to say about jumbo that jumbo always used to do.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: It's had times back in the day when he used to go in the oval as a class, right, he used to carry the whole class in the oval to watch cricket test cricket in particular, now realize.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: And they used to use we to follow the oval, right.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: So these are carriers To watch cricket.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: So some days you will see several schools in the in the oval say no.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: And when jumbo passing selling in nuts right before he leave, he always used to pass by where he crawled, the stands also, the schoolboy stands, and he used to say school, you don't remember he don't mind it.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: Boundary is his school children.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: All they want nuts and just fling up some nuts for the school children.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: That kind of money was.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to leave it.