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- 0:07I'm Nori Con and welcome back. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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- 0:33minutes somewhere around that time frame.
- 0:35Mitch Holdren Holtis will join us.
- 0:36He's our only guest in our number one, of course, the voice
- 0:39of the Kansas City Chiefs. They are back on the field this
- 0:42week. Andy Reid is just, you can't
- 0:45beat him off of byes 13 and 1 and they're coming off their by
- 0:49and they'll head to the Mile High City take on the Broncos.
- 0:51Mitch Holtis 1245 on the Chiefs as they prepare to get back on
- 0:57to the playing field. Our number 2, we'll head to
- 0:59Chicago. Our buddy David Kaplan,
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- 1:06We are grateful for that relationship.
- 1:08Cappy on the goings on the offseason with the Cubs.
- 1:12Obviously the Bears do a little bulls in there, etcetera,
- 1:15etcetera. And then we're going to talk to
- 1:16a guy who covers USC for the Locked on network.
- 1:20We are USCI believe. Is that it?
- 1:22That's the website that he writes for and he hosts Locks
- 1:25Locked on Trojans. Culkin is his name, so we'll
- 1:28pick his brain on what he thinks to see and if there is a path
- 1:32for Iowa, and if there is, it's not an easy path by any means as
- 1:36the skill position of the players on the USA are really
- 1:39good. But again, I was not blown away
- 1:42by the Northwestern game. One game does not make a season,
- 1:45but we'll see. Not going to be easy.
- 1:47We know Ference's history and has been good when he takes his
- 1:50team. So the West Trent will make some
- 1:51play. Circus sports sponsor.
- 1:53Those are those coming up here at 1:50 or so.
- 1:58College basketball night, not the shiniest night.
- 2:00Last night was pretty good when it comes to college hoops.
- 2:02There was some marquee games. Obviously, Illinois, that was a
- 2:05big win for them. Kentucky and Louisville that
- 2:09drew Billis and Schulman courtside at the Yum Brand
- 2:14Center in downtown Louisville. Pretty good game there.
- 2:17And Gonzaga. Creighton.
- 2:19Yikes. Got away in a hurry.
- 2:21Oh. My God is is is Gonzaga.
- 2:23Look, I watched Creighton and I was.
- 2:25I didn't try to. The website crashed.
- 2:29The Nebraska Public TV couldn't get through.
- 2:31Couldn't get through, but but regardless of that, I mean, they
- 2:34gave Iowa State all they can handle and more, right?
- 2:37And then Gonzaga, are they you know for the longest time I bet
- 2:42him every year, yes, every year, Yep and I finally got divorced
- 2:45from Gonzaga. Still I'm from the we're still
- 2:47in a relationship with the Chargers and the Bengals, but is
- 2:53this the year I should be on this eggs?
- 2:55Did you see any of it? I.
- 2:56I watched most of the end of the first half and almost well until
- 3:00it just turned into a 30 point blowout.
- 3:02Yeah. I was incredibly impressed.
- 3:04Really. Yeah.
- 3:05It was eye opening, you know, Huff, I thought he was really
- 3:08good for them. He played really well.
- 3:10They still got Ek inside who was just a monster.
- 3:13Well, they lose. They used a ton of their guys.
- 3:15I mean, I guess it'll blow it like I can, right?
- 3:17And on the other side, Owen Freeman stunk.
- 3:20He was awful. Was he just brutal?
- 3:22Is he out of shape? Yes, yeah.
- 3:24I mean, it's hard to run when he got a finger injury.
- 3:28Yes, as we know Josh Dix, how did he play awful?
- 3:31Did he? He looked bad.
- 3:33So it leads me now good an interesting path perhaps.
- 3:37So the guys that left after McCaffrey left, is there any one
- 3:41of them that's a off to a good start?
- 3:44The one guy that I've seen to this point is, say, to Treori,
- 3:48who's out at Utah, I don't know. Yeah.
- 3:51And he got off to a good start, shot really well in the first
- 3:54game, didn't shoot as well in the second.
- 3:55But I think he's playing well for Utah.
- 3:57I love Harding, assisted turnover ratio, elite.
- 4:02I think he's like one of his first 12 from 3.
- 4:04Yeah. Prestigio is that Santa Clara
- 4:08only reason is because Santa Clara played Xavier the other
- 4:11night who Iowa plays on fire can.
- 4:13You watch some of that. Well, I just was looking through
- 4:15the box score. He is out with an injury right
- 4:18now and then who else is? Well, Price, safer over at
- 4:22Nebraska, is not shooting the ball very well either.
- 4:24So not a great start to the guys departing Iowa City.
- 4:30We'll get to see the Hawkeyes Friday night against Xavier.
- 4:32Yes, and somebody's going to win tickets to that courtesy for our
- 4:34buddy Doctor Stephen Fuller be listening for your queue to call
- 4:37probably later on in the show today.
- 4:39Yeah, that's the one game, Trent, that I was really
- 4:41surprised by. Illinois.
- 4:43Underwood's a good coach. Not really surprised that he did
- 4:45what he did last night with all that influx of European talent.
- 4:48Not sure how this will play out once we get into the Big 10
- 4:51play, but certainly a decent start for them last night.
- 4:55Kentucky goes down to young team.
- 4:57We'll see how they fit. I I think upside wise though.
- 5:00I think they're going to be good at the.
- 5:01I think once the calendar turns February into March, Pope will
- 5:04have that team figured out and they'll be just fine.
- 5:07We shall see. But it's kind of fun to get kind
- 5:09of a, a little bit of a gauge, you know, as as to who's going
- 5:13to be on top outside of just your, you know, your comfort
- 5:17zone, the Big 10 and the Big 12. So watching Texas Tech Illinois
- 5:20last night, why is Paige Stackovich's son coming off the
- 5:25bench? Because he was a stud.
- 5:27Was he? Oh, yeah, I mean, he had 23
- 5:30points, 11 to 15 from the floor. Just outstanding.
- 5:33He's coming off the bench there. Didn't quite understand that one
- 5:35from Underwood. On the other side, JT Topping,
- 5:38you see why he's going to advertise highest paid players
- 5:41in college basketball. He finished with 35, knocked
- 5:43down to 3, was just all over the place.
- 5:46Had six turnovers in the game, but that was nip tuck to the
- 5:49end. Was it Texas Tech going to
- 5:53champagne? You know, this wasn't in
- 5:54Chicago. This wasn't.
- 5:56This is going into the State Farm Center.
- 5:58So is Illinois doing the return visit what they name after a
- 6:01grocery store with Texas Tech plays?
- 6:03That's right. Yeah, isn't it?
- 6:04I think it is. I would guess yeah, this is a
- 6:05home in home, right? I walked away maybe more
- 6:09impressed by Texas Tech. Did you even in a loss?
- 6:12I like Texas Tech going into the game.
- 6:14I mentioned that yesterday. But to go into that environment,
- 6:16I thought that said a lot about Texas Tech.
- 6:18And when you're talking about a team a little bit deeper down
- 6:21with a national championship, that's a lot.
- 6:23For tech or for Illinois? Both.
- 6:25But Final Four, yeah, definitely Texas Tech I think needs to be
- 6:29amongst those that next year team, not the high level, the
- 6:32Dukes and the Houston's of the world, but Purdue do you?
- 6:36Buy Purdue still. I don't either.
- 6:38Trent No. To win a national championship
- 6:40now. St.
- 6:40John's Temple. He's got beat by Alabama.
- 6:43Yeah, it's been a lot of money. We'll see how it goes.
- 6:46But yeah, it's fun to get a little.
- 6:47But I I can't help myself. You know where I spent most of
- 6:50my night last night before The Jets and the Canucks dropped the
- 6:52puck at night watching. Hockey.
- 6:54No, I mean from 9 on I did OK. I can't.
- 6:58I can't give up action. What is it about?
- 7:00I don't know. You know what?
- 7:01It is. I've got a soft Sparta because
- 7:05I've told you my history before, right?
- 7:06Every three weeks. I had to go to Vegas for years,
- 7:08every three weeks, every 3rd week for a week.
- 7:12And it was awful and it was by myself.
- 7:14But you know what I had? I had my friend Maxion on those,
- 7:18on those November's that I would be there on a Tuesday when
- 7:21nobody's in town. I'm going to be sitting by
- 7:24myself in the book, at least there be something on.
- 7:26And that's kind of where I developed the relationship with
- 7:28Max and that I wasn't betting it.
- 7:30Yeah, I just watching it and now I can't give it up.
- 7:34I can't get there. It's and.
- 7:36I'm going to do it again tonight, I know.
- 7:38I am. I need weather, I need that snow
- 7:40game that that's what I need for me to really for Twitter.
- 7:43To alert you. Oh my God, get over there
- 7:45picture. Or you're going through during
- 7:47commercial, you get there and then you get sucked in.
- 7:49You get a decent game and both games were good last.
- 7:51Yes, absolutely. I I saw afterwards, I saw the
- 7:54box scores of them and I saw. One went to overtime.
- 7:56The Akron game went to overtime in Western Michigan.
- 7:58That was a hell of a game. Down to the wire.
- 8:00Yeah, I just can't do it. College basketball's going on.
- 8:03And maybe that's the reason for me that it's not there is.
- 8:06I'll watch a random college basketball game.
- 8:09Hawaii's late night tonight. We'll see if we can find a a
- 8:12stream for that one. As they take out Mississippi
- 8:14Valley State, they're favored by 41 and a half, 40. 1 1/2 is
- 8:19Hawaii. They're OK.
- 8:20They're they're pretty good. Are they a tournament?
- 8:22Team no, I mean. They're favorite by 40
- 8:25something. Well, Mississippi Valley State
- 8:27also has a win this year. They beat the Mississippi
- 8:29University for Women. I don't know.
- 8:33What they did and they put that on their on their on their
- 8:35Ledger. It's on there, it's a win.
- 8:36They won by like 37. This isn't an exhibition game,
- 8:39I. Have.
- 8:41To assume Mississippi Valley State played who?
- 8:44Mississippi University for Women.
- 8:46The Owls. That has that ever.
- 8:48Happened before. It has to be that it's still
- 8:52called the Mississippi University for Women, but men
- 8:55are allowed in it. Has to be the case.
- 8:57OK, so I I thought they were. Playing women, I don't think so.
- 9:03I I didn't see that one. That one didn't make the.
- 9:05The name of the school again is Mississippi Valley.
- 9:08Mississippi Valley State. For women.
- 9:10And the team they played was Mississippi University for
- 9:13Women. Mississippi University for
- 9:15Women. 41 1/2 tonight if you like the Rainbow Warriors.
- 9:19You know what? Now I'm going to check the.
- 9:20Score again tomorrow. I don't.
- 9:23At minimum you got to see. Why?
- 9:27Just actually. Can we find a box score?
- 9:29Yeah, yeah. See April, the Susie score,
- 9:32right? See what the names of this team
- 9:35was. I'm, well, I'm scrolling through
- 9:38here and I go to the very bottom of the list at Ken palm #365
- 9:42there is Mississippi Valley State.
- 9:44They are the worst team. Let's see if he's got that box
- 9:46score for that game, please. Here it is.
- 9:48Please have. It lead the way from Mississippi
- 9:50Valley State. Michael James had 35 on the
- 9:53other side for. This one more interested in the
- 9:55missus Patty have. Mississippi University for
- 9:58Women. Alright, we got a Tyler, a
- 10:00Jackson, a Tree, a Dev and a Trend a Joe.
- 10:03Yeah, so it's called for women. Yeah, but men are allowed in the
- 10:06university. Do they go to school there or is
- 10:08this just a girl? Is this like an intramural thing
- 10:10right? Is there a Mississippi school
- 10:13for for men? They're the basketball team.
- 10:15Yeah, I wonder, Yeah, things you learn this early in the season,
- 10:19right, when they're trying to fill some of these games and and
- 10:22get some competition. All right, so let's move on
- 10:24because we'd like to keep the audience.
- 10:25Yes, that. That's interesting.
- 10:27I'm going to. Watch the box score and you're
- 10:30going to try and actually find a feat for this tonight.
- 10:32We might. We might.
- 10:34I'm intrigued. A number that big.
- 10:36Just intrigued. Let's go to the College Football
- 10:38Playoff unveiling last night, and how much of the show did you
- 10:40watch? 0 minutes, 0 minutes as always.
- 10:44And to say that I was shocked when I see on social media that
- 10:47Iowa comes in still ranked. 2120 or 21?
- 10:5021 they were 20th last week. Drop a spot to 21.
- 10:55I thought maybe there was an outside path to them. 2425 you
- 10:59know something like that maybe see I'm 21 and then the
- 11:03conversation we had yesterday, that path that starts this week
- 11:08and it and it you. Know it starts and ends this
- 11:10week ends if they lose yes and again this is 1 per not even
- 11:17maybe 1%. This is AI don't know what you
- 11:22want to put it .5% everything has to fall right?
- 11:26But to sit here and say that they're out today is just not
- 11:28true. It's not.
- 11:30There is a path and it's. Do we think it's going to
- 11:33happen? I want to make this very clear
- 11:34for the Cyclone fans. We're going cyclo fanatic right
- 11:36now to log on and RIP us. We don't think it's going to
- 11:38happen. I think by 5:55 Central time,
- 11:41we're going to know it's not going to happen because I was
- 11:43going to get beat. By USCI think you're right and I
- 11:45like the Iowa, but the more I look at this USC team and that's
- 11:48why I'm excited to talk to our guest at 1:30 today.
- 11:52They've just got so many skill guys.
- 11:54Why it is OK the one that keeps bouncing back to me?
- 11:57And why I'm concerned about this game also for Iowa, it's not
- 12:02just the West Coast thing that I think they but it.
- 12:06Hasn't treated them. Right, it is USC high flying
- 12:11team, throws the ball around second in the country.
- 12:13They over average over 500 yards a game, 300 passing yards, 200
- 12:17rushing yards a game. It's going back to that Michigan
- 12:20game and the way that we know Michigan's going to do exactly
- 12:23what I want to do, right? You want to play bully ball,
- 12:24going to play physical. We're going to be the tougher
- 12:27team. USC was a tougher team that day.
- 12:30Against Michigan. Against Michigan.
- 12:31Against Michigan, and that's where my concern lies, is teams
- 12:35have tried this and this is not USC of a couple of years ago.
- 12:38No, that's not the USC team that Clark Ference was talking about
- 12:41a couple of years ago. And you see that's making the
- 12:42rounds now. No.
- 12:44Do you remember Kirk's comments two seasons ago?
- 12:47He was talking about Frost. He was talking about USC.
- 12:50He was talking about their lack of defense.
- 12:52I have the, I have the. And it's a bulletin board type
- 12:57of clip. Oh, they're using it much like
- 12:59the Oregon people used a very innocuous, not a whole lot to it
- 13:04comment from Phil Parker. And they used it as ammunition,
- 13:07USC, apparently. And Lincoln Riley apparently is
- 13:10using what Kirk Ferrett said here to rile up the troops.
- 13:15I'm really not worried about points per game, excuse me,
- 13:18passing yards per game, you know, all all the stats stuff.
- 13:24What's per game isn't is interesting.
- 13:26It's important, but you know, I got another one.
- 13:28I'll hold that in my pocket till January for you.
- 13:31But what is important is wins per game.
- 13:32You know, if you want to evaluate 1/4 in my opinion, you
- 13:35know, check the wins per game call because, you know, I can
- 13:38think of a guy that entered the conference recently that came
- 13:43with widely acclaimed, you know, offensive stats and all that.
- 13:47And that's usually how those guys get to become well known
- 13:49because of their, you know, whatever they're doing, throwing
- 13:51it, running at Wishbone. But you know, then you look a
- 13:55little deeper. So what's this guy's wins per
- 13:57game? And there's usually a
- 13:58correlation, you know, people that just throw the ball around,
- 14:01you know, it's it makes it tougher to win.
- 14:03It makes it tougher to be on good defense, good on defense.
- 14:06I think Phil would tell you that.
- 14:07So there there is a team concepts concept here that is is
- 14:11really important to me. It's the only way we can win in
- 14:13my opinion. And there's a school on the West
- 14:15Coast right now that's going to recommit to defense.
- 14:17You know, you have a 42 to 2 lane last year in a bowl game.
- 14:20So, you know, a place where like, you know, Ronnie Allen
- 14:23played. So I just find it, you know, now
- 14:25they're going to think about defense.
- 14:26Like, you know, to me that that was the first thing we thought
- 14:29about 25 years ago. That ain't going to change.
- 14:32Like that just ain't going to change.
- 14:33So so the coordinator coming in is going to understand like this
- 14:36is who we are. It's worked pretty well.
- 14:38We're looking to improve, always looking to improve.
- 14:41So that is after Brian moved on. New offensive coordinator
- 14:44talking about defense and Denton Lending Company apparently are
- 14:48using that as bulletin board material this week for USC.
- 14:52What'd he say was wrong? Lincoln Riley, Me.
- 14:56Well, no. What?
- 14:57Kirk said. Oh, OK, Nothing.
- 14:59No, I nothing. I don't get this.
- 15:03Now it, it drives me crazy. The biggest culprit of this is
- 15:07Kirby Smart. I mean, he uses motivation.
- 15:10Georgia, nobody believes in us. They were preseason #1 they go
- 15:13and win a national championship and afterwards, and to a man, I
- 15:17mean, you hear a half dozen interviews after the game and
- 15:19all of them, nobody believed in it.
- 15:20What the hell are you talking about?
- 15:22But Kirby made them believe that nobody believed in them.
- 15:25And that is the motivation. It still works.
- 15:28I don't get it. But I guess you're talking about
- 15:31impressionable 18 to 23 year olds or 24 or 25 anymore.
- 15:35But young men, impressionable, you're buying in and you're able
- 15:39to sell them something that in the grand scheme of things is
- 15:43absolutely correct, but you use it as a slight.
- 15:47Boy, Phil Parker's could have a game plan ready, man, because
- 15:50they're going to throw it around, they're going to try and
- 15:52run the ball. They're so good.
- 15:53I love lemon, by the way. Is he?
- 15:57He's not 6 feet. Is he no big dude?
- 15:59He's also the return man. He hasn't been great in returns
- 16:01this year. But yeah, he's a speedster on
- 16:04the outside. This is going to be a different
- 16:05kind of match up with the speed that they have on the outside.
- 16:08And I didn't think, you know, when they made the decision.
- 16:11We're going to move on, move on to quarterback.
- 16:14Maeva's going to be the guy. And I, I never loved Maeva.
- 16:18He's been really good this year. I mean, he's taken a step
- 16:21forward that I didn't think was there because he made so many
- 16:25boneheaded decisions. He was.
- 16:26So raw when he was at UNLV, but he showed some signs, but I
- 16:29wasn't sure how that would, you know, transfer to the Big 10.
- 16:33He is playing at a high level and this defense is much better.
- 16:37Yes, the defense has defensive front.
- 16:39Yes, Dentlin has done a good job.
- 16:42No surprise. He you look at the defensive
- 16:45numbers, the 48th in the country in total defense.
- 16:47And where's Iowa? I'd have to look 60th and rush
- 16:52defense 51st and passing yards allowed per game.
- 16:55Now what does Iowa have to do? What's the path?
- 16:58Does this have to be a game? Where it's it's, it's an Iowa
- 17:01win on the road. It's it's a couple of turnovers.
- 17:04Ouijian would kill you to take one back.
- 17:06That would help. That would help, right?
- 17:07Don't fumble. Don't fumble, just do enough on
- 17:10offense. Try try and hold them to what
- 17:15are they going to have to hold them to?
- 17:16Can they hold for 26/27/24 somewhere in that vicinity and
- 17:21and try and pull it out there? Look, there's a reason they're
- 17:23an underdog going into this game.
- 17:25They deserve to be. I would feel a whole lot better
- 17:29was a Kinnick but sadly it's not.
- 17:32You do have to play Rd. Games.
- 17:33No, I know. I get it.
- 17:34I get it. You know, I said this summer a
- 17:36couple of times to you, there's going to be a moment this year
- 17:40that I was going to have to win and not a 5451 shoot out.
- 17:44But they're going to have to score some points.
- 17:46They're going to put 30 up in the board to win a game against
- 17:48one of these big opponents. They need a 25 to get past Penn
- 17:52State. They got Oregon and Indiana both
- 17:54to play their style. But here on the road, I think
- 17:56this is the one, if I was going to win this football game, at
- 17:59minimum 2731, something in that range, I was going to have to
- 18:03score, I believe, in order to win this football game.
- 18:06I don't think this can be one, get a weird safety in there and
- 18:09we're going to get out of there and squeak out, you know, 22 to
- 18:1218. I don't think that's the case
- 18:14here. Points need to be up for Iowa.
- 18:17Seems like it. We'll see if they can do it.
- 18:19We'll take a time out, come back, get more into this
- 18:22conversation, maybe delve into the NFLA little bit.
- 18:25Yes, I have. I found a bet that might
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- 19:00This hour, Miller and Condon underway on a Wednesday.
- 19:04Cappy still to come. Mitch Holtis this hour.
- 19:07Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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- 19:36to break, you said you've got something that would interest
- 19:38me. I want to do a little bit on the
- 19:39NFL because it is a really good schedule.
- 19:42This week. There are a number of big games.
- 19:45What have you got? So up at circus sports right
- 19:48now, they have the division to win the Super Bowl.
- 19:50And it's a bet that's always out there signally every single
- 19:53year. And as you go through and you
- 19:55look and you look at the different divisions, are there
- 19:59many that you would think multiple teams can win a Super
- 20:02Bowl? Can win a super.
- 20:04Bowl can win a Super Bowl, because that's all this bet is.
- 20:06NFC East? No, there's one.
- 20:10NFC North, Central. The North?
- 20:16None. Not Detroit.
- 20:18Detroit. Detroit South Tampa.
- 20:22OK. But that's it.
- 20:24But that's it. W is where it resides.
- 20:27Yes, there's two and the Niners will get to the playoffs.
- 20:33In the AFCI. Don't buy the Do you buy the
- 20:37Patriots? That would be the only other
- 20:39one, wouldn't it? Can you name 3 patriots?
- 20:43Mike Frabel, Frank May, Tom Brady, Yeah, Gronk, Andre
- 20:50Tippett. Yeah, Vilma, it's tough.
- 20:54They're new. Christian Gonzalez is a stud.
- 20:56He's really good player. He's a really good player.
- 20:58He's going to be the one of the next, you know, the the shutdown
- 21:00corner club. We.
- 21:01Got Stevenson, who's coming back from injury.
- 21:03They they got some guys, but but to win a super.
- 21:06Bowl. You have to have some guys who's
- 21:08their best defensive player. Probably Gonzalez.
- 21:12Yeah, yeah, Yep. Have you ever heard of their
- 21:16kicker Bargalis? No, I just picked him up in
- 21:18fantasy for did you this weekend.
- 21:20Need new kicker as Bagley was on the bye week with the Colts as
- 21:24well. You know who's having a good
- 21:25year for them is the rookie from Ohio State, Henderson, Yes.
- 21:28He's well, he had a good week. He had a good week because he
- 21:30was terrible before that. Was Stevenson out?
- 21:33Is that why he got his chance to play?
- 21:35Stevenson might have been Wally Pip He.
- 21:37Absolutely might, yeah. Because he looked really good.
- 21:38OK, so we're talking about winning a Super Bowl.
- 21:40Bill's OK, but I can't say the Patriots.
- 21:43No, no, I don't think. They are.
- 21:44I'm not even sure the Bills will.
- 21:46AFC North bolt. Yes.
- 21:50But nobody else is winning the not.
- 21:53With it not not not the Steelers, not the Bengals.
- 21:55With that defence, I agree, Texans.
- 21:58They're not winning. I don't think they are AFC West.
- 22:03And then they get to the AFC West.
- 22:06Now, obviously, Kansas City, yes.
- 22:07Chargers. Yes, the Chargers offensive
- 22:10line. That's bad.
- 22:11That's a bad offensive line. They're not winning a super.
- 22:13Denver with Bo Nicks No. They're not winning a super.
- 22:15No. So the division that I would bet
- 22:19it has to be favored as the NFC West.
- 22:21That's the only one that I feel comfortable with multiple teams
- 22:24that can win it because if you just think there's one teams in
- 22:27all these other divisions, then just bit the team individually
- 22:29and you're going to get a better price than you would here.
- 22:31But if I give you plus 325. And those two teams?
- 22:36And you get both the Seahawks and the Rams, two teams that you
- 22:39absolutely love right now. You don't have to pick 1.
- 22:42You get them both. And a little extra as he got the
- 22:45Niners, just in case, yeah. Little insurance with the
- 22:47Niners, Yeah. They get healthy 325 now I know
- 22:51you like bigger. Prices, well, I'm going to add
- 22:52to it. Yes, you're going to make a
- 22:54championship. To win the Stanley Cup or higher
- 22:57state or Indiana, to win the College Football Playoff, yeah,
- 23:01that's the way I would do. It I, I thought, I thought you
- 23:03would like that. One yeah, that's that's pretty
- 23:05good because you know my how I feel about I think the Rams are
- 23:08the best team in football. I think the Seahawks are an inch
- 23:10behind them. So double that price though,
- 23:13from plus 325 to plus 650. That is where the AFC East is.
- 23:17If you are one of those people, Lucas Strain, that believes in
- 23:20the Patriot. He he really does.
- 23:22I don't think so. Well, that's his team.
- 23:23Yeah, it's his team. Yeah, but if you do plus 650,
- 23:27that's not bad with both the Bills and the Patriots.
- 23:30If you are a believer though, either Ken and I are this week
- 23:32in the NFL. Is this the best week of the
- 23:35year? It's certainly on the list and
- 23:37and it's highlighted by three late games.
- 23:41Yes, the late window. Seattle and LA, Huge, huge
- 23:45Kansas City and Denver, yes, and Detroit and Philadelphia on
- 23:48Sunday Night Football. That's as good as it gets.
- 23:51There's another couple. I mean the Bears and Vikings
- 23:54aren't isn't brutal. Yes, and it's.
- 23:55Important here. It's important here.
- 23:57Tampa and Buffalo, both of these teams, right?
- 24:00Tampa needs to get back on track.
- 24:02Buffalo. Needs to get back on track,
- 24:04Yeah, not getting blown out by Miami.
- 24:08So yeah, I can make, I can make a case for five or six really
- 24:10good matchups this week. Chargers, Jaguars could be huge
- 24:13for seating come playoff time. Wild card.
- 24:16Who's the five? Who's the six?
- 24:17I don't. Buy the Jags, but I do buy the
- 24:19Chargers for that reason. I think the Chargers are going
- 24:21to be in the playoffs. I do.
- 24:22And once again, we ship a crappy game overseas.
- 24:25Well, that's a good place for it.
- 24:26What have we got over there? Commanders, Dolphins getting up
- 24:29early for that one. Make sure Jet's walked.
- 24:33Yeah, no, you know what? Hey, Jet, we got to get up at
- 24:355:00. I'm sorry, we got to get that
- 24:36walk in early because I got to get home and get settled in.
- 24:39Yeah. There was only one game who
- 24:41played the Broncos play over there, was it the Jet played The
- 24:43Jets. They.
- 24:43Played The Jets, yeah. And, and I wish I would have
- 24:46slept in. That was awful.
- 24:47That was absolutely terrible. And we get The Jets to open up
- 24:51the schedule this week against those people.
- 24:52You know what, Trent? And I'm kind of glad for one
- 24:54reason because, and and we just mentioned it a minute ago, I
- 24:59haven't watched the Patriots. Why would you go out of your way
- 25:02to watch the Patriots? Now, I'll give you the fact that
- 25:04they're sneaking up on everybody and they are going to be in all
- 25:07likelihood a a playoff team. It's hard for them not to be.
- 25:11They're going to win over Buffalo, by far and away their
- 25:13best win of the year. What the the other teams that
- 25:16they beat are certainly nothing to write home.
- 25:18But let me get their schedule in front of me here.
- 25:22Hang on, give me one second. Let me find the New England
- 25:25Patriots and what they've done so far this year.
- 25:28New England, they lost to the Raiders Week 1, beat the
- 25:31Dolphins, lost to the Steelers, and then they went on their
- 25:34winning streak. And that winning streak started
- 25:35with Carolina. The win at Buffalo's really good
- 25:37at New Orleans, That stinks. At Tennessee, Brutal.
- 25:40Home to Cleveland, awful. Atlanta, middle of the pack.
- 25:44And at Tampa Bay, That's a good win.
- 25:45That's a good win, but I'm anxious to watch them tomorrow
- 25:50because I don't know the team. I get to know them better.
- 25:52Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Kale wants to chime in.
- 25:56Hello, Kale, How are you? Yeah, hi.
- 26:00There. Hi.
- 26:03Yeah, I was just wondering why you didn't have the Colts on
- 26:06your list to either go to the playoffs or possibly a Super
- 26:09Bowl when you have like. Well, we're, we're trying to
- 26:12find two teams. We're trying to find two teams
- 26:14in in each division. Yeah, the culture, an absolute
- 26:16thing, can. Come up in your conversation,
- 26:18though you named a dozen other teams but.
- 26:21We did loss of it just because it just because I don't see
- 26:24anybody in the AFC S outside of them that has a chance.
- 26:27That is a good conversation, though.
- 26:28Can you? You're a believer that the
- 26:30Indianapolis Colts can win a Super Bowl.
- 26:35Depends on who they play. I think they can make it there.
- 26:38They've got a that's the best chance they've had in years.
- 26:41True, since Manning left. So this is The Who don't you
- 26:47want to play? Because the AFC to me is wide
- 26:49open. Who don't you want to play?
- 26:51Kale? Who does?
- 26:52Who worries you? You and your Colts in the AFC.
- 27:03Chiefs. Yeah.
- 27:06Chiefs. Broncos.
- 27:09No, I'm not too concerned about the Broncos.
- 27:12You beat them by a flu call at the end of the game in
- 27:13Indianapolis, but let's not. Well, your Broncos were cheating
- 27:16Chargers. No, Colts are better than
- 27:19Chargers. Bills, yeah.
- 27:23Bills. The bill I got to see more from
- 27:27the Bills, they've kind of they have haven't been playing that
- 27:30great, but yeah, they, I mean, come playoff time, you know,
- 27:32Josh Allen can Josh Allen. So.
- 27:35Is sauce going to make that big of a difference in that past
- 27:37defense? We can't hurt.
- 27:38We can't hurt. Absolutely 25th in the league,
- 27:40Dale. Thanks for the call.
- 27:41In past defense, maybe it's Daniel Jones too.
- 27:46I like Daniel Jones and it feels like we're going to maybe head
- 27:50to the same thing would. You rather have Herbert or
- 27:52Daniel Jones? Herbert Yeah, it's just the
- 27:56Chargers offensive line. It's so bad.
- 27:58It's awful. It's terrible.
- 28:01It's just it's just who's who wants to join us next.
- 28:03Deval. Oh, Devin.
- 28:05Devin. Hi, Devin.
- 28:06How are you? Hey guys.
- 28:09So yesterday I called in, talked about our good buddy Larry
- 28:12Morgan. We forgot to mention he's a
- 28:15Chiefs fan. So him and I got to talking
- 28:17about the Broncos and Chiefs. I mentioned Kenny to him that
- 28:19you were a Broncos fan. He thinks it's going to be a
- 28:22close game. I think Chiefs won by double
- 28:24digits. Unfortunately, I hate the Chiefs
- 28:26as much as anyone else. I just want to get your thoughts
- 28:29Kenny on that game. What do you what do you think is
- 28:30going to happen with your Broncos?
- 28:31It's my best bet of the week. Devin, nice to hear from you.
- 28:34I love the Kansas City Chiefs, Singleton.
- 28:38But did you hear about this Alex Singleton, the Bronco, one of
- 28:40the Broncos inside linebackers? He was drug tested two weeks
- 28:44ago. OK, You know, they random drug
- 28:46tests after every game. The drug test showed elevated
- 28:50signs of something. OK, He went to the He had
- 28:53testicular cancer. Oh yeah.
- 28:56They found out by doing a random.
- 28:59He had no idea. Holy cow, I had no idea and now
- 29:02he's out for a few weeks. But regardless of that, and I
- 29:05pissed off, he's not playing. Don't get me wrong, that's not
- 29:07the message I'm conveying, but just the way that he was, they
- 29:10were able to define just a complete fluke.
- 29:13JK. Dobbins is out, obviously Sir
- 29:16Tan is out. Singleton's out there.
- 29:19Ben Powers, they're starting. Left Guard is out, Andy read off
- 29:23a bye at the top of the list, 21st and foremost. 22 and four
- 29:26all time for. Is he?
- 29:27So that would factor in his Eagles head here as well.
- 29:30He's unbeatable. Yeah, he's unbeatable.
- 29:32Well, I think if you're a Broncos fan, I think that they
- 29:36get him in Kansas City on Christmas night.
- 29:38Oh, get the Christmas night. Get the split.
- 29:41Yes, get the split. Certain will be back at that
- 29:46point, I hope. Yeah.
- 29:47Is it? There's still questions though.
- 29:49No, no, he'll be back by then. He'll be back after the bye.
- 29:51Maybe not the first game after the bye, but certainly very
- 29:54close after that. Here's it's it's bone ICS.
- 29:58It's bone ICS. He looks awful.
- 30:00He looks terrible and I hate to say it because I'm All in all
- 30:03in. I thought that they got a steal
- 30:06last year in the draft. I really did, and I still hope
- 30:08that they do, obviously, but he's been God awful.
- 30:12Overthrowing one guy after you're an NFL quarterback, you
- 30:15can't do that. Missing the makeables.
- 30:18Right, and it's not like the the the the core of receivers is
- 30:24pedestrian. When Cortland Suttons your one,
- 30:27where does he stack up in the in the 32 teams as far as WR1 in
- 30:31the 20s? Oh absolutely.
- 30:33Maybe the mid 20s? Probably.
- 30:35If that's your number one, you're in trouble.
- 30:37Absolutely. And now Dobbins is out.
- 30:39RJ Harvey's a nice player, but he's a rookie and he's going to
- 30:43have to carry a big load here and bone.
- 30:45Their defense is absolutely Super Bowl elite.
- 30:49They are. It's as good as there is.
- 30:52Their offensive line is outstanding.
- 30:54The kicker will let's is great. I can't get past them.
- 30:59I can't get past it. Prove me wrong, Bonex.
- 31:01Go out and win this game. We'll take a time out.
- 31:03We will come back. We'll talk to the voice of those
- 31:05Chiefs. Mitch Holtis will join us.
- 31:07Papa John's sponsors that. And to Kate's point, Colts can
- 31:11Colts can win the AFC. Kale's Point.
- 31:14They can get. They can get AFC is wide open.
- 31:19In Indianapolis, Kansas and Daniel Jones.
- 31:22I know Mahomes is against Daniel Jones.
- 31:24Of course y'all like Mahomes. Jonathan Taylor's really good.
- 31:29Yes, he is really, really good. I don't think the Colts will get
- 31:33there. I got a lot of Colts tickets.
- 31:35Do you a lot of Colts finalist tickets?
- 31:38You got a lot of tickets in. General I do.
- 31:39Yeah, I do. Miller and Condon.
- 31:41And I make money on everyone. If the Patriots get there, I get
- 31:44killed. Miller and Condon on the Iowa
- 31:46Sports Radio Network. Mitch Holtis next.
- 31:49I'm glad you're with us. I'm Millie Condon, welcome back
- 31:59the Iowa Sports Radio Network, wherever you're listening.
- 32:02Grateful that you are. Trent and I take you until 2:00.
- 32:06At that time off the bench with Sean and Lucas.
- 32:09He's the voice of the Kansas City Chiefs back with us every
- 32:13Wednesday now as the Chiefs have finished their bye week.
- 32:16How many Wednesdays will there be?
- 32:17Well, in the last couple years, you've been with us right to the
- 32:20bitter end. And he joins us again, Mitch
- 32:22Trenton, Ken, thanks for coming on.
- 32:24Chiefs favorite to win the Super Bowl yet at this point, not even
- 32:28in the playoffs, which is kind of crazy.
- 32:30But that's the boat that we're in.
- 32:32Here come the Denver Broncos. It's Broncos and the Chiefs in
- 32:36Denver should be a good one. Hopefully so.
- 32:38So tell me that Andy Reid took the took the week off do a thing
- 32:44because we know how he is coming up by weeks.
- 32:47Having a cheeseburger. Yeah, but that's probably not
- 32:50the case, is it? I thought he was going to drive
- 32:53up to Okoboji and just have some time.
- 32:55That had been great. Stare at the stare at the leaves
- 32:59falling. No, he's 22 and 4 after byes
- 33:03best in NFL history. Nine and three with the Chiefs.
- 33:07But this Denver team is just, it's a really interesting study,
- 33:10Ken. I know you've watched them and
- 33:11that's your team. You know, look at them from a
- 33:13glance until we scuba dive into them the week you play.
- 33:16It's really one of the more interesting teams, I think in
- 33:19this league. Oh gosh, in a span of 20 to 25
- 33:23years, when you look at what they've done and how they've
- 33:27done it, we all know there's a flesh eating defense
- 33:30offensively, It's just kind of hard to when you look at these
- 33:34guys of like, wow, that's really good and they're like really
- 33:37this side. So there's just a lot going on
- 33:39with this team. But but they're good and they're
- 33:41kind of the chiefs of 24. The fact that with the 11-1
- 33:45score wins last year by Kansas City to get to 15 and two near
- 33:49the Broncos obviously with six one score wins this year.
- 33:53Defense is incredible, defensive front incredible, on pace to
- 33:57break the 84 Bears record for sacks in a regular season.
- 34:01They're on pace for 78 of them at this point in time.
- 34:03That means the Chiefs offensive line needs to be ready to go and
- 34:07some reinforcements on the way. The return possibly of Josh
- 34:10Simmons. Let's start right there and
- 34:12obviously we know how talented this guy is.
- 34:15What can you tell us about his availability for this weekend?
- 34:19I can't tell you that yet. I'm not saying it's something I
- 34:22know. I really don't.
- 34:23I don't. I think it's going to see how
- 34:25this week transpires. You know, this is the first big
- 34:28practice day for Josh. And the other thing, if you're a
- 34:33Chiefs fan listening to this, how realistically can you be
- 34:37that Josh is going to go out and play at the level he was playing
- 34:39out five weeks ago against going to swimming lessons with Piranha
- 34:44in the pool? Just I mean, what you mentioned
- 34:48the sack total the most after 10 weeks since the 89 Vikings.
- 34:52But there's other things with this team.
- 34:54One of the things that most intrigues me about, and this
- 34:57gets to answer your question, is there a quick pressure rate?
- 35:01Now, their pressure rates the best in the NFL.
- 35:03The Broncos at 42.9, they have the most quarterback hits, the
- 35:07most overall pressures, 3 players with six plus sacks.
- 35:11We know who those three are. There are nine with two plus
- 35:14sacks and 14 with the sack. It's just really unique group.
- 35:17So the offensive line has got to be in concert.
- 35:19Now, one thing that will help Simmons if he plays and how much
- 35:22he plays will be the emergence of Kingsley Somatia.
- 35:26He really has, I mean, a year ago at this time, somewhat
- 35:30embarrassed his left tackle out of the game.
- 35:33What's he going to do? He started his first game at
- 35:35left guard last year when we played the JV's in the 38.
- 35:38Nothing lost to the Broncos but catching up with Kingsley.
- 35:41The offensive line has got to work together and Kingsley's
- 35:44confident, especially now that he's shoulder to shoulder with
- 35:47his teammates. Just being out there with the
- 35:49guys, I'm like I say, I'm very blessed to have the coaches and
- 35:53all the guys next to me be out there with them.
- 35:57But just being out there and being able to play the game that
- 36:00I love, that's that's the biggest how.
- 36:02Close. Are you guys?
- 36:03Because it seems like you've got your own little kind of
- 36:05fraternity. Very close.
- 36:06Everyone's always checking on everybody, making sure
- 36:08everybody's always 30 minutes early before work, so everyone's
- 36:12always on each other. So yeah, we're very close.
- 36:16Yeah, they're going to have to be close just because you've got
- 36:19Cooper that people don't talk about enough.
- 36:21We know Benito right now is the lead.
- 36:23And then and then Zach Allen, the most underrated player maybe
- 36:26at any position in the league. Yeah, he's unbelievable.
- 36:29Julius Cooper was the 7th round pick.
- 36:31I think he had a heart condition that scared some teams away when
- 36:34he came out in the draft, but he's been unbelievable.
- 36:37Wish Sir Tan was playing. Hopefully he's back for the
- 36:39Christmas rematch, Christmas night in Kansas City.
- 36:43So offensively they're they're going to have to work to score
- 36:46their points. But Bo Nicks has not been good.
- 36:48Mitch, when you look at the offense for the Broncos and how
- 36:51the Chiefs and companies bags will go about trying to shut
- 36:54them down and a lot of teams have so far this year, what do
- 36:57you think they will do to try and stop Denver's offense?
- 37:00Well, in one dynamic, here is the injury to JK Dobbins.
- 37:03Huge. And what?
- 37:05Yeah, what does that do? Although RJ Harvey's been really
- 37:08good, but Nicks is the most interesting study here.
- 37:10He's not been good. They don't take this wrong until
- 37:14he has to be. He's been phenomenal in the
- 37:16fourth quarter. If you look at what this team
- 37:18has done, then the 30 point fourth quarter they had against
- 37:21the Giants skews the stats a little bit.
- 37:23But Knicks right now is 30 completions at 10 yards or more
- 37:27in the fourth quarter. That's tied with Baker Mayfield
- 37:30of Tampa Bay for the best in the league.
- 37:32And Nicks has 9 total fourth quarter touchdowns and he's got
- 37:36four fourth quarter comebacks. That's all the best in the
- 37:38league. So it's like, what is he doing
- 37:40for the other 3/4? It was not good.
- 37:42I mean, he's got six games he's won in his career with a passer
- 37:46rating under 70. That's what I'm saying.
- 37:48It's really a unique look at and can you know this, but others
- 37:52might. But they the Broncos have
- 37:54trailed for 206 offensive plays during their seven game-winning
- 37:58streak. That's the most since 1991 and
- 38:01both bottom 5 and throws A10 plus yards and eight picks on
- 38:05those throws, their 20th and 3rd down percentage.
- 38:08But the fourth quarter numbers, it's like they wait till finals
- 38:12week and then they ace the final.
- 38:13But incredible defense and a great fourth quarter team.
- 38:16It's Weather 8, too. Our first conversation since the
- 38:20trade deadline. A lot of people are hoping for
- 38:22Breece Hall, maybe help at running back.
- 38:24I think defensive line. I saw the numbers mentioned him
- 38:26a week ago. Just the amount of snaps that
- 38:29we've seen along that front. Chris Jones amongst the leaders,
- 38:32same with Carloftis, just not getting a little bit of depth
- 38:35there. Is there somebody maybe waiting
- 38:38in the wing, somebody on the practice squad?
- 38:39Because that was a surprise to me.
- 38:41They didn't go out there and at minimum try to get a depth piece
- 38:44on that defensive line. But Trent, here's the thing, and
- 38:47I tell fans this all the time, and this is really the case
- 38:49here, if the Chiefs don't get a deal done, it doesn't mean they
- 38:53weren't trying. And so in your and fans, we
- 38:57will. Wait a minute.
- 38:57It doesn't even count if you don't make it happen.
- 38:59Yeah, yeah. But doesn't.
- 39:01Don't make the assumption they weren't trying.
- 39:03I would love to have Bruce Hall. It's the least he could do by
- 39:07not going to K State and going to Iowa State that he could
- 39:09lease it to Wichita. Northwest get come here.
- 39:12It's what's not Northwest. Come on.
- 39:14But you've touched on a point and I spent potentially D line
- 39:20rotation of not grinding guys into the ground in these next 8
- 39:24weeks. The other part I should have
- 39:26mentioned about the Broncos and the Chiefs are going through a
- 39:29gauntlet here of maybe the top five or six offensive lines in
- 39:33the league. We just had Buffalo and that
- 39:36planet group, but this one of the underrated stories of
- 39:39Denver's eight and two start is the improvement of Mcglinchey
- 39:42and Garrett Bowles, a tackle and then Quinn Minors right now is
- 39:46maybe the number one right guard.
- 39:48We've got Trey Smith when minors pressure rate allows only 3.6
- 39:53and that's by far the best in the league for right guards.
- 39:57The offensive line of Denver can wear you down.
- 39:59I think that goes to the fourth quarter staff that they've got
- 40:02Denver, but so defensive. You've got to somehow rotate
- 40:06keep guys. Fresh and that's the challenge
- 40:07specs has in this game. Well, let's not let the audience
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- 41:00week. OK, may the best man win.
- 41:03Indeed, we'll talk about it next week.
- 41:04Hour 2 is next, Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio
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