Latest / Blerd’s Eyeview / S14E010: Table Top Gaming and Hip-Hop with Call Me Ace
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- 2:27Speaker 1: You are now tuned in. It's a blurs out view
- 2:35Speaker 1: and without fund of a dude we out Yeah.
- 3:25Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, it is young man Chris Fury from Blurred's
- 3:28Speaker 3: I View.
- 3:28Speaker 5: Thank you.
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- 5:54Speaker 3: H for those that are down in for for those
- 5:57Speaker 3: who are in Florida, we our prayers are with you.
- 6:00Speaker 3: He can't do anything ourselves, but we hope you hunger
- 6:03Speaker 3: down if you couldn't get out, and we hope you
- 6:05Speaker 3: if you could get out, that you're safe. I actually
- 6:08Speaker 3: have a couple of buddies down there and he's actually
- 6:10Speaker 3: texted me and say, yeah, he's in Georgia. He's fine.
- 6:12Speaker 3: So uh so I hope for those of your loved
- 6:15Speaker 3: ones are safe. Climate change is real. I don't know
- 6:19Speaker 3: what else to say about that. We're we're in Cleveland
- 6:22Speaker 3: and it's forty degrees. Sucked all the wind out up
- 6:26Speaker 3: up here, so yeah.
- 6:29Speaker 6: It's too cold up here.
- 6:31Speaker 5: Yeah it's just cod.
- 6:35Speaker 6: It's still down here.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Look it showed, it shows, it shows where it one
- 6:40Speaker 3: goes like, God didn't believe me, but here we go.
- 6:44Speaker 8: Ah.
- 6:45Speaker 3: Other than that, I finally was able to pick up
- 6:48Speaker 3: my storm number one, and it was it wasn't the Really,
- 6:53Speaker 3: it wasn't it wasn't the second copy neither. It's nice
- 6:57Speaker 3: to have friends, it's next.
- 7:01Speaker 5: To our friends.
- 7:02Speaker 3: I was looking, I'm looking through my list, and I'm like, oh,
- 7:05Speaker 3: she is, if she is? But no, check that out
- 7:10Speaker 3: Storm number one. We'll be talking to the writer of
- 7:12Speaker 3: Storm next month, so take stay tuned for that. But tonight,
- 7:18Speaker 3: we have a rapper in the building. We got someone
- 7:21Speaker 3: who's got a very dope tabletop card game called five Mics.
- 7:27Speaker 3: We call them Ace because he calls himself, what's going on?
- 7:30Speaker 3: Call me a?
- 7:31Speaker 5: What's what's good?
- 7:33Speaker 1: What's good?
- 7:34Speaker 5: What's good?
- 7:35Speaker 1: Happy evening? Everybody, how y'all feeling?
- 7:38Speaker 3: We put you up here, so there we go, Here
- 7:41Speaker 3: we go.
- 7:42Speaker 1: I got a lot bigger. Let's share the space you
- 7:46Speaker 1: don't want to share. I'm just wanting you. You don't
- 7:51Speaker 1: know me screen for no reason.
- 7:58Speaker 5: You didn't know. That's royal broth.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Has been.
- 8:03Speaker 5: It's been legit, legit, legit.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you. Uh, I'm happy to be here.
- 8:10Speaker 9: Uh.
- 8:11Speaker 1: As soon as I found out, I literally listened. When
- 8:14Speaker 1: I first was like, yo, I'm about to do five
- 8:16Speaker 1: mics full time. I was like, first of all, there's
- 8:20Speaker 1: no way I'm the only person that's a black nerd, right.
- 8:24Speaker 1: I was like, and so I'm doing the Googles, I'm
- 8:28Speaker 1: doing the searching, and I came across this podcast like
- 8:33Speaker 1: a couple of years and I was just like, Yo,
- 8:34Speaker 1: this is this is dope, and I just like I
- 8:37Speaker 1: just pressed it. I just stayed in tune, you know,
- 8:40Speaker 1: like this is what episode one thousand right like this.
- 8:44Speaker 1: So I've been yeah, I've been keeping it, but like
- 8:48Speaker 1: I've been just behind the scenes being like, yes, these
- 8:52Speaker 1: are people that are talking about stuff that I grew
- 8:56Speaker 1: up on. I'm constantly watching observing Da da Da da,
- 8:59Speaker 1: and and you know, I spoke to so far as
- 9:01Speaker 1: I spoke to Chris, I was like, yo, man, like
- 9:06Speaker 1: everything that y'all do is dope. Like I just love
- 9:08Speaker 1: y'all from Afar even if we don't do that, you
- 9:10Speaker 1: know what I mean. And So to be here right
- 9:12Speaker 1: now with y'all talking about whatever we're goinna talk about,
- 9:14Speaker 1: because I know how y'all be. We can talk about five,
- 9:18Speaker 1: but we can talk about literally whatever I'm down for.
- 9:26Speaker 3: The job is done.
- 9:27Speaker 1: The chemistry right, Like I hope I fit right, Like
- 9:30Speaker 1: I hope you know, I'm not gonna.
- 9:33Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you're you're right.
- 9:35Speaker 5: Whoop?
- 9:35Speaker 3: Do we need to do that? We need to go
- 9:37Speaker 3: ahead and give them that one. So for that right
- 9:43Speaker 3: there we go, Uh, God, give me warning when you
- 9:48Speaker 3: want that. So he uh, we went through like a
- 9:54Speaker 3: dry run for your for your card game. And I'm
- 9:57Speaker 3: new to the tabletop game. Navy's normal our tabletop guy,
- 10:01Speaker 3: but we went through your card game Sunday and it's
- 10:05Speaker 3: a very dope concept. Tell the people, Tell the crew,
- 10:09Speaker 3: Tell the people out there that's watching and listening, tell
- 10:12Speaker 3: them talk to him about what five mics is.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Yeah, so five mics is a hip hop trading card game.
- 10:19Speaker 1: So imagine Yu gi oh or Pokemon, but with rappers
- 10:21Speaker 1: instead of dragons. In fact, you don't even got to
- 10:23Speaker 1: imagine because I got a couple right here for you
- 10:25Speaker 1: to look at. So well, if if the thing will
- 10:28Speaker 1: do the thing hold up? So you know whatever, going
- 10:33Speaker 1: five mics io, we got card? I know, Oh wait,
- 10:36Speaker 1: how'd you do it? What did you do? Because if
- 10:37Speaker 1: I do that, then it covers right behind it, I
- 10:42Speaker 1: think so a little bit. So that's yeah, that's someone
- 10:47Speaker 1: all right. So that's pretty Milly, right, Pretty Milly. Basically
- 10:50Speaker 1: she's a social media influencer. She got picked up by
- 10:53Speaker 1: the labels because she was, you know, just getting a
- 10:55Speaker 1: lot of eyeballs on her right, and so her ability
- 10:59Speaker 1: is actually fly and you know she she flies when
- 11:03Speaker 1: she has people looking at her, right, So when you
- 11:05Speaker 1: have more party artists on stage, her ability enhances even further.
- 11:09Speaker 1: U And her superpower is light manipulation, right, so she
- 11:13Speaker 1: can make large projections of her shelfs. She could shoot
- 11:17Speaker 1: light beams at you, right. And I'm gonna just pause
- 11:19Speaker 1: right there, but just like these are these are all
- 11:21Speaker 1: unique original ip that we created, right because we want
- 11:25Speaker 1: to build our own Pikachu's and Spider Man's and Jean
- 11:28Speaker 1: Grays and things like that. Right, So you know we
- 11:31Speaker 1: got Stone Hot and Dretti shot, Kim Black, Chaz Big
- 11:34Speaker 1: Hot Girl, like all these different folks, right, and they're
- 11:36Speaker 1: all just we got the best friend, Missy Night, cool chemists.
- 11:40Speaker 1: I could keep going, right. We got one hundred and
- 11:42Speaker 1: eighty cars in this first set. But that being said,
- 11:46Speaker 1: we went through the tech Stars Accelerator program. We have
- 11:50Speaker 1: Warner Music as an early investor, Concorde as an early investor,
- 11:53Speaker 1: and so just even in this process of like building
- 11:56Speaker 1: this game, I've also been talking to real hip hop artists.
- 11:59Speaker 1: I was just playing five Mics the other day, literally
- 12:02Speaker 1: last week, because you know how we'd be like the
- 12:03Speaker 1: other day. It could be like five months ago, but
- 12:05Speaker 1: literally the other day, literally the other day, I was
- 12:08Speaker 1: playing with a homey of mind. He's signed to Doctor
- 12:11Speaker 1: Dre's Aftermath label or just like we're mostly with them,
- 12:15Speaker 1: And you know, he was playing it again kind of
- 12:17Speaker 1: like you, Chris, right, Like didn't play trading card games before,
- 12:21Speaker 1: and I made five Mics to be accessible for folks
- 12:24Speaker 1: that have never played a DCG before might have seen it,
- 12:27Speaker 1: but like you know, there might be a little distance,
- 12:29Speaker 1: and so we're teaching them how to play the game.
- 12:31Speaker 1: He's playing it, He's like, Yo, this is this is dope.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Like I like this a lot, right, And I was
- 12:36Speaker 1: like that, imagining yourself as one of these cards, what
- 12:38Speaker 1: would your superpower be? You know, like how do you
- 12:41Speaker 1: rap about yourself? And then just turning you into one
- 12:43Speaker 1: of these characters that we would add into our multiverse. Right.
- 12:45Speaker 1: And so even though we're not building this on celebrity
- 12:50Speaker 1: name and likeness, there is also a lane as we develop,
- 12:54Speaker 1: as we continue to develop and get you know, more
- 12:57Speaker 1: folks into the pipeline right where there are are like
- 13:00Speaker 1: real artists into the game, right, and you can build
- 13:03Speaker 1: your deck around artists that are actually real right along
- 13:07Speaker 1: with our artists in our own fantasy world. So that's
- 13:10Speaker 1: just a quick summary of what it is that we're building.
- 13:16Speaker 3: I got a question that I'm gonnass it to the crew.
- 13:19Speaker 3: You're you started. It's almost like a chicken and an
- 13:23Speaker 3: egg situation because you've done music, but you must have
- 13:27Speaker 3: been a blurred first. What was what was the inspiration
- 13:31Speaker 3: for doing five mics?
- 13:34Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, no, I mean, you know, my my first
- 13:38Speaker 1: my first love growing up was drawing illustration and I
- 13:43Speaker 1: still I still can. In fact, I begged my wife up,
- 13:47Speaker 1: I know, you know me at the time, but before
- 13:51Speaker 1: you came into my life as an illustrator, and I
- 13:53Speaker 1: need a iPad, like I need, I need an iPad?
- 13:56Speaker 1: Is get it for me, you know? And we got
- 13:59Speaker 1: the iPad and not I had on draw as much
- 14:02Speaker 1: as I promised her that I would. But all of
- 14:04Speaker 1: my artwork for my albums after twenty eighteen, from twenty
- 14:08Speaker 1: eighteen up until like a couple of years ago, right
- 14:11Speaker 1: like I did those by hand. You know what I mean,
- 14:13Speaker 1: and so like the album that had the Billboard chart,
- 14:16Speaker 1: the album was you know on that list or this
- 14:18Speaker 1: list or whatever, like music that I had in the
- 14:21Speaker 1: Ford Mustang commercial, right, Like I was doing those artworks, right,
- 14:24Speaker 1: And so like drawing, coming up with my own characters
- 14:28Speaker 1: and stuff like that, I went to a over the summer.
- 14:31Speaker 1: I went to a school where literally I learned how
- 14:33Speaker 1: to make comic books with like people that worked at
- 14:35Speaker 1: Marvel and stuff like that. Right, So like, don't let
- 14:37Speaker 1: the chains fool you. I'm a big nerd, Chris, You're
- 14:39Speaker 1: absolutely right. So you know, going from from from you know,
- 14:43Speaker 1: drawing and then acting and then creating stories of the
- 14:47Speaker 1: things that I was drawing like led me into pros
- 14:51Speaker 1: and short stories and long form and I was writing
- 14:54Speaker 1: poetry and then you know, middle school happened and it
- 14:56Speaker 1: wasn't cool to be a poet in middle school, and
- 14:59Speaker 1: so I just put use it underneath it and became
- 15:01Speaker 1: a rapper so that you know, could just be in
- 15:03Speaker 1: the vibe. And then that was it. And so like
- 15:06Speaker 1: going to I went to Columbia University for undergrad and
- 15:11Speaker 1: I only I only so I'm from Britshporn, Connecticut, right,
- 15:14Speaker 1: And I went to a school. I went to a
- 15:16Speaker 1: predominantly white school, and uh the I had two different
- 15:22Speaker 1: I had two different what do you call them guidance counselors.
- 15:26Speaker 1: One of them was like, you're not going out to nothing.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Apply to all these yeah, literally like don't don't even
- 15:31Speaker 1: really apply to school? Da no, no whatever. But like
- 15:34Speaker 1: God gave your boy grace. I switched to a different
- 15:37Speaker 1: advisor and she was like, Yo, you could apply to
- 15:39Speaker 1: these schools because you're you're in a single uh single
- 15:43Speaker 1: parent household, and you know y'all don't got no money,
- 15:46Speaker 1: y'all broke, y'all got homeless. Da da da da, Like,
- 15:49Speaker 1: apply to these schools, and you know you can get
- 15:52Speaker 1: like a free ride to go to these schools. So
- 15:53Speaker 1: I apply to you know, these schools whatever. I only
- 15:56Speaker 1: went to Columbia because one they paid for me to go,
- 15:59Speaker 1: but two it's in New York, right, and that's where
- 16:02Speaker 1: hip hop is and you know all these different things.
- 16:03Speaker 1: So I literally went thinking that I was gonna go
- 16:05Speaker 1: to Colombia and blow up like Lauren Hill did after
- 16:07Speaker 1: her first year.
- 16:08Speaker 4: That did not happen, but.
- 16:13Speaker 1: You know, me and my homies, we ended up creating
- 16:15Speaker 1: the Columbia University society at hip hop and got to
- 16:19Speaker 1: open up for Snoop Dogg right before graduating and all
- 16:21Speaker 1: these different things, and so it was dope to be
- 16:24Speaker 1: a part of that. I stopped rapping because I had
- 16:27Speaker 1: to come to Jesus moment. It was crazy. I don't
- 16:29Speaker 1: even want to go into discussion on it. I don't
- 16:30Speaker 1: want to be recorded talking about it. But it was
- 16:33Speaker 1: nuts enough enough to be like, I ain't a rapper
- 16:36Speaker 1: no more. So I threw it all away. I'm homeless
- 16:38Speaker 1: after graduating from Columbia University, you know what I mean.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Trying to figure out my life. I meet this girl
- 16:44Speaker 1: fresh from South Africa, you know, on a summer trip,
- 16:47Speaker 1: ended up being my wife. But she's like, Yo, I'm
- 16:51Speaker 1: gonna be a lawyer. So I'm like, yo, I'm gonna
- 16:52Speaker 1: be a lawyer. And I'm studying for the LSAT, trying
- 16:54Speaker 1: to pretend to be something. I get into education because
- 16:59Speaker 1: I'm looking for a pair of legal job and they're like, Yo,
- 17:01Speaker 1: you're way too charismatic to be a pair of legal
- 17:03Speaker 1: Why don't you work for the scale?
- 17:06Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 17:06Speaker 1: Literally, this is what they said. And I'm great. I'm
- 17:08Speaker 1: grateful for like honest feedback, and so I end up
- 17:11Speaker 1: applying for this COO assistant role thinking that this is
- 17:14Speaker 1: a downgrade because oh, look like the path that I
- 17:18Speaker 1: want is not going the way that I wanted to go.
- 17:21Speaker 1: But you know, the COO this company looks at my
- 17:24Speaker 1: resume and she's like, wow, every single verb on the
- 17:27Speaker 1: beginning is a different word, like you have a strong
- 17:30Speaker 1: attention to detail, You're very analytical. She's making all these
- 17:33Speaker 1: assumptions about my like little poetic resume gets me the job.
- 17:37Speaker 1: She she wants to Harvard Business School. She wrote my
- 17:40Speaker 1: recommendation letter for me to go to business school. That's
- 17:42Speaker 1: how I ended up in California going to Berkeley House
- 17:44Speaker 1: for MBA. I'm doing the thing. I'm thinking, Yo, I'm
- 17:47Speaker 1: about to just go to Deloitte Consultant and have a
- 17:50Speaker 1: real job with health care and real money. And you know,
- 17:54Speaker 1: my homie back home is like, Yo, do you still
- 17:57Speaker 1: know how to wrap? And I'm like yeah, I'm like yeah,
- 18:02Speaker 1: but look at my life now right like I'm about
- 18:05Speaker 1: to I'm about to have real money like rappers don't
- 18:08Speaker 1: have real money. I'm about to have real money. I'm
- 18:11Speaker 1: about to have healthcare, Like why I'm about to get
- 18:16Speaker 1: married after I graduate business school. Like I'm not rapping
- 18:19Speaker 1: about girls, I'm not rapping about money, like I'm not
- 18:22Speaker 1: I'm about to have real thing, Like why would I
- 18:24Speaker 1: want to be a rapper?
- 18:25Speaker 5: Right?
- 18:25Speaker 1: This is what I'm telling this man. And he's like, Yo,
- 18:27Speaker 1: everything that you just said, you could put all of
- 18:29Speaker 1: that into music for him and be a rapper. And
- 18:32Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even have a rap name
- 18:34Speaker 1: because I had a different rap name back in the day.
- 18:37Speaker 1: You could google it, but I prefer you not right.
- 18:41Speaker 1: He was like, So, I was like, I don't even
- 18:44Speaker 1: got a rap name. He was like, well, what does
- 18:45Speaker 1: your Instagram saying?
- 18:46Speaker 8: It?
- 18:46Speaker 1: Literally said call me because that's what people been calling
- 18:48Speaker 1: me ever since I was a kid. So he's like, boom,
- 18:50Speaker 1: don't even overthink it. Call me is your rap name?
- 18:53Speaker 1: And I was like, I was that's grammatically incorrect. And
- 18:57Speaker 1: he was like, so is a tribe call quest And
- 18:59Speaker 1: I was like, dang. I was like, there's why am
- 19:01Speaker 1: I talking to this man. He got me into a
- 19:03Speaker 1: trap and there's no way out of it. So literally,
- 19:06Speaker 1: he gave me. He just gave me. He gave me
- 19:07Speaker 1: one assignment. He was just like, Yo, just write a trap,
- 19:10Speaker 1: Write a trap before you go to sleep, see see
- 19:13Speaker 1: how you feel. And I did it, and I kid
- 19:16Speaker 1: you not, y'all. I felt right back in love like
- 19:19Speaker 1: it was nothing, you know what I mean, like just
- 19:20Speaker 1: everything locked in. I was like, yo, like I've been
- 19:22Speaker 1: waiting to like touch this part of my soul and
- 19:25Speaker 1: it's been a minute, and you know, I'm doing it
- 19:28Speaker 1: from this new perspective and all these different things. But
- 19:30Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm about to graduate business school and
- 19:32Speaker 1: I'm about to have a corporate job. Like what am
- 19:35Speaker 1: I doing? Am I really about to rap? And I
- 19:38Speaker 1: was like yeah, absolutely, you know, so right before I
- 19:40Speaker 1: right before I graduated, right, I'm making music for the school,
- 19:43Speaker 1: my album Martyr that they still use for emissions to
- 19:46Speaker 1: this day, you know what I mean, getting people to
- 19:47Speaker 1: go to their school because it was I mean, it
- 19:50Speaker 1: was the only hoss once that was the name of
- 19:52Speaker 1: the song, right, And so like we're performing at schools
- 19:54Speaker 1: like a thousand people did it at all. I graduate
- 19:56Speaker 1: and now I'm in Deloitte as a consultant and I'm like, yo,
- 20:01Speaker 1: I want to rap. I don't want to be a consultant.
- 20:04Speaker 1: And so I hear about I know order priorities, right,
- 20:07Speaker 1: and so I hear I hear about how John Legend
- 20:10Speaker 1: used to be a rapper at Boston Boston Consultant Group
- 20:13Speaker 1: for a year and then he got signed to you know,
- 20:15Speaker 1: Good Music and did ordinary people's got Grammys and stuff
- 20:18Speaker 1: like that. I was like, yo, bet, I'm gonna be him.
- 20:19Speaker 1: I was like, this the same play that I try
- 20:21Speaker 1: to make a Columbia. I was like, this is exactly
- 20:23Speaker 1: why to do a Deloitte. That did not happen, but
- 20:25Speaker 1: I tried my best. I ended up going from Deloitte
- 20:29Speaker 1: to Facebook to Google, slash YouTube. But all the while
- 20:33Speaker 1: the music was growing as well. And I talked to
- 20:35Speaker 1: somebody along the journey who was also working in this
- 20:38Speaker 1: corporate world, and I was like, yo, you when do
- 20:40Speaker 1: you stop doing one or the other? And she was like,
- 20:44Speaker 1: when one calls for more attention than the other. And
- 20:47Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because I just have a
- 20:49Speaker 1: I'm Jamaican and I have a very large tolerance for
- 20:52Speaker 1: like work. But it never felt like one called for
- 20:58Speaker 1: more attention than the other. I just did both at
- 21:01Speaker 1: the same time. And so for eight years I was
- 21:05Speaker 1: I was making albums called return of office out of
- 21:08Speaker 1: office working from home before people was actually working from home.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Then the pandemic happened, and I just made working from
- 21:13Speaker 1: home extended, you know what I mean. Like it was
- 21:15Speaker 1: just but like this was my like content that I
- 21:18Speaker 1: was making because I'm just rapping about my life, right
- 21:21Speaker 1: like if you hear my music, I'm rapping about my life.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Because it wasn't about trying to be something I'm not.
- 21:28Speaker 1: It was like, I already have a job that's making
- 21:30Speaker 1: me money, so I'm not doing this for money. I'm
- 21:31Speaker 1: doing this because there's just something that I wanted to share, right.
- 21:34Speaker 1: But I'm a big nerd man. And when the pandemic hit,
- 21:38Speaker 1: I mean, I've had this idea for five mics ever
- 21:40Speaker 1: since a kid, because I've been playing Heartstone and Magic
- 21:43Speaker 1: and Yugi Oh, Pokemon, Marvel versus Man. There's this one
- 21:49Speaker 1: Shadow era, you know, I've played them at u Haka Show,
- 21:52Speaker 1: had a trading card game once before I played you know,
- 21:54Speaker 1: NBA two K and Madden too because I'm from the streets.
- 21:57Speaker 1: But like I play these on the low, you know
- 21:59Speaker 1: what I mean. And I play these to like express myself,
- 22:02Speaker 1: you know. And I was like, yo, I had homies
- 22:06Speaker 1: from the hood that I tried to convince to play
- 22:09Speaker 1: Yu gi oh and they're like, ah, you know, or
- 22:11Speaker 1: try to play a Dragon ball Z the CCG and
- 22:14Speaker 1: they're like, ah, I like the show. But you know,
- 22:16Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, what if what if? I asked
- 22:20Speaker 1: myself this. This is like literally right before I hit
- 22:23Speaker 1: the billboard chart at Facebook, right, I was like, Yo,
- 22:26Speaker 1: what if instead of dragons and magicians, you have rappers
- 22:29Speaker 1: and with like superpowers, you know. And that was the
- 22:33Speaker 1: context of the card game. And it was just a
- 22:36Speaker 1: small idea that literally possessed me for years. And I
- 22:39Speaker 1: was just tinkering making this game. I've made games before,
- 22:43Speaker 1: but just you know, it wasn't publicized. I wasn't trying
- 22:45Speaker 1: to like do it, you know what I mean, But
- 22:46Speaker 1: like this one, I mean, it just overtook me, you
- 22:50Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so anyway, long story short,
- 22:53Speaker 1: five mice was born, pandemic happened. I was stuck. I'm
- 22:58Speaker 1: doing music, but like you couldn't form, had all these
- 23:01Speaker 1: creative juices, didn't know what to what to do with it,
- 23:04Speaker 1: started really punneling, uh, funneling all of it into this.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Somebody was like, yo, you got to make this happen.
- 23:11Speaker 1: I spoke to an investor. He was like, yo, you
- 23:12Speaker 1: need to do this right now. I started going to
- 23:14Speaker 1: game conferences and was like, yo, I would play this
- 23:16Speaker 1: right now if you had it. One thing led to
- 23:18Speaker 1: another yell, and here we are the end. I know
- 23:21Speaker 1: what question you have for me. I just wanted to
- 23:23Speaker 1: get like five of them at the same time.
- 23:25Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
- 23:28Speaker 6: Oh God, where Jesus. I don't know anything about tabletop
- 23:34Speaker 6: card games at all. The closest I've ever come to
- 23:38Speaker 6: being a real player is finding a stack of Yu
- 23:43Speaker 6: gi oh cards scattered about through Harlem. But that's about it.
- 23:49Speaker 1: When you say scattered, were they like on the ground
- 23:51Speaker 1: where they were blocks? And I was like, oh, with
- 23:56Speaker 1: somebody on the run.
- 24:00Speaker 6: Nobody else sees running away. I just said, well, you
- 24:03Speaker 6: know what, I can love them better than whoever lufties
- 24:07Speaker 6: on the ground. I may never use them, but here
- 24:11Speaker 6: we go. I would love to start playing your I
- 24:16Speaker 6: say all that to say I'd love to start playing
- 24:17Speaker 6: your game because I don't know jack poopy about them
- 24:22Speaker 6: uh yo cards at all?
- 24:24Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I love it, you know, like I
- 24:28Speaker 1: it's it's it's dope. Right, Because we've had people that
- 24:31Speaker 1: have played you know, they're like yu gi oh professionals,
- 24:35Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When one dude, I say, dude,
- 24:37Speaker 1: he was an eleven year old kid right comes through
- 24:41Speaker 1: this was that dream cond like diamond chain. I'm like,
- 24:45Speaker 1: I fell under dress, you know what I mean? And
- 24:48Speaker 1: uh has like all these secret rare ultra reres just
- 24:51Speaker 1: pulling them out there and they're not even like covered
- 24:53Speaker 1: in like plastic. It just it's nothing to him, like
- 24:56Speaker 1: he just gotta learns that. He he learns how to
- 25:01Speaker 1: play five mics, beats me twice, beats several other people
- 25:05Speaker 1: multiple times. Right, And at the end, I interviewed him
- 25:08Speaker 1: because I'm just like yo, like what'd you think? And
- 25:10Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, this is like yu yoh, but
- 25:12Speaker 1: fair Yeah, it was. It was just like people was
- 25:17Speaker 1: losing it, right because and I like, I didn't pay
- 25:20Speaker 1: him to say that. I didn't want him to say that,
- 25:21Speaker 1: but I'm glad I got it on tape, you know
- 25:23Speaker 1: what I mean.
- 25:23Speaker 4: But like.
- 25:25Speaker 1: One thing that so to your point, right, like if
- 25:29Speaker 1: you look at like the common yu yo card, it
- 25:31Speaker 1: might have like nine hundred and ninety nine characters on it, right,
- 25:34Speaker 1: So as you're reading it, you're literally reading. You feel
- 25:36Speaker 1: like you're having a moment to like test your reading comprehension,
- 25:39Speaker 1: which is great, Like I I like yo yo right,
- 25:43Speaker 1: da da da da, But like I I wanted to
- 25:47Speaker 1: ensure that five mics did not have that complexity barrier
- 25:53Speaker 1: for you to play, right, like very minimal words like
- 25:57Speaker 1: at most three lines, but like these are words that
- 26:00Speaker 1: are common to us to spend. Right, it's a hip
- 26:03Speaker 1: hop training card game. Like we got keywords like re
- 26:05Speaker 1: up and invest and you know what I mean, like
- 26:08Speaker 1: stuff like like it, you know what I mean, Like
- 26:11Speaker 1: we got we got trapped cards because there's trap music
- 26:13Speaker 1: and hip hop, you know what I mean. Like it
- 26:15Speaker 1: just makes sense, right, And so it was very intentional, right,
- 26:19Speaker 1: like the different things that we do in this game,
- 26:21Speaker 1: it's just to make it super accessible, right. Like one
- 26:24Speaker 1: thing that we do, for example, is like everybody got bags, right,
- 26:29Speaker 1: Bags is you know, like bags of money, right, Like,
- 26:31Speaker 1: and you need bags in order to pay to play
- 26:33Speaker 1: the cards right onto the stage. And so everybody starts
- 26:37Speaker 1: off with five bags, and there's ways to get more bags,
- 26:40Speaker 1: but just for all intensive purposes, you have bags, and
- 26:42Speaker 1: you got cards in your hand, they cost a certain amount,
- 26:44Speaker 1: and you're like, I bet, I got five bags. I
- 26:46Speaker 1: got a card that costs four I'm gonna spend four
- 26:48Speaker 1: bags to play that card. I'm gonna spend one bag
- 26:50Speaker 1: to play that card. Orkay, bet now I'm broke, you know.
- 26:52Speaker 1: And it's just like it just feels like it makes
- 26:54Speaker 1: more sense, right, versus like, oh I need and this
- 26:57Speaker 1: is no offense to any of the other card games
- 26:59Speaker 1: because I play. It's like, you know, it's like I
- 27:02Speaker 1: don't got to worry about land or Mana or like
- 27:05Speaker 1: any of these things, Like what do these words mean?
- 27:06Speaker 1: Like I literally I was like twenty five years old.
- 27:08Speaker 1: I was like, oh, mana, that's where they got that from, right,
- 27:11Speaker 1: Like it just it It's just like yo, like let's
- 27:14Speaker 1: let's make it feel like something that we understand, and
- 27:17Speaker 1: you know, if you really don't understand it, then learn it,
- 27:19Speaker 1: like how we've had to learn everything else, you know
- 27:21Speaker 1: what I mean. All right, I'm gonna relax.
- 27:22Speaker 6: I just want to one time. I want to throw
- 27:26Speaker 6: the card down like I'm playing space.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Oh yes, lady lady, And you can like right, like
- 27:34Speaker 1: we at dream Con, like we had people I love listen,
- 27:38Speaker 1: I love us. I love us. I love how we
- 27:40Speaker 1: trash talk. We had somebody that I was like, yo,
- 27:42Speaker 1: I'm the sugar night of this game, like like just
- 27:45Speaker 1: going off right, I was just and I was like, yes,
- 27:48Speaker 1: like be sug you know, like it just it's just
- 27:51Speaker 1: crazy and just like you can have that right, like
- 27:53Speaker 1: just the way. So for example, right, we got five
- 27:56Speaker 1: different styles in the game. Right, we got chill, party, hardcore, Emo,
- 28:01Speaker 1: and conscious, and we also got freestyle freestyles. Like the
- 28:04Speaker 1: style is style right, It'll there's no style right, but
- 28:07Speaker 1: it's freestyle, right, And so like you know what's been
- 28:11Speaker 1: really dope's people being like yo, I love the concept
- 28:14Speaker 1: of Emo. I love the philosophy of how Emo plays,
- 28:17Speaker 1: and I identify with Emo on a personal level, right,
- 28:20Speaker 1: And so that like pushes them in a way where
- 28:23Speaker 1: you know the different ways that you can play the
- 28:26Speaker 1: Emo style. It's deeper than just a game. It's like, yo,
- 28:30Speaker 1: Like I like these characters. I like how they move,
- 28:32Speaker 1: I like how they play up. And for the people
- 28:34Speaker 1: that say yo, I like pretty Milly, I can imagine
- 28:36Speaker 1: how she sounds when she's rapping, Like this is the
- 28:39Speaker 1: party style, this is how they play. They're all flies
- 28:41Speaker 1: so they don't even have to battle, they just go
- 28:43Speaker 1: straight to the dome like all these different things. Right,
- 28:46Speaker 1: it's just really dope to see how, just like with
- 28:49Speaker 1: any game, people can really take what they want from
- 28:52Speaker 1: it and identify with it at such a level where
- 28:55Speaker 1: you can enjoy the game in a way that's beyond
- 28:59Speaker 1: the the how do you say the game's genre or
- 29:03Speaker 1: the components of the game, right, Oh, it's a tabletop
- 29:06Speaker 1: is a trade like by the way, like, yes, we
- 29:09Speaker 1: are currently in a pre order campaign for the physical
- 29:12Speaker 1: aspect of this game. But what really got me I
- 29:16Speaker 1: it's full circle because when I started Five Mics it
- 29:19Speaker 1: was with physical in mind. I built the game so
- 29:21Speaker 1: that the rules can be played physically, which is why
- 29:23Speaker 1: we're able to do this pre order campaign. But what
- 29:26Speaker 1: got me to do Five Mics full time was the
- 29:28Speaker 1: fact that we were actually going mobile first, and so
- 29:32Speaker 1: there is a mobile component of this game as well.
- 29:34Speaker 1: So it even though there's physical cars that you can
- 29:37Speaker 1: play this game with, it's not just a tabletop game
- 29:41Speaker 1: or a physical game, right, Like this can be played mobilely,
- 29:44Speaker 1: this can be played on PC, on tablet or where
- 29:47Speaker 1: I mean we're building. We're currently building, so When I
- 29:49Speaker 1: say like it can, I mean like it will be,
- 29:50Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But like it can be, right,
- 29:53Speaker 1: because it's just the digital aspect of it is just
- 29:56Speaker 1: the computation that you would otherwise do physically. But as
- 29:58Speaker 1: far as like how this game can be he played,
- 30:00Speaker 1: it's not just a physical game. It's it's wherever you
- 30:04Speaker 1: want to play this game, right, and so just like
- 30:07Speaker 1: oh no, right, you can play on your phone, you
- 30:08Speaker 1: can in real life. And so that's really what we're
- 30:10Speaker 1: trying to do with that, you know what I mean.
- 30:12Speaker 1: But it's it's deeper than just the game. It's the
- 30:15Speaker 1: ip that we're building, you know what I mean. Like,
- 30:16Speaker 1: there's real people out here right now that are like Yo,
- 30:18Speaker 1: I identify with Black Chaz, our conscious main artists, right
- 30:22Speaker 1: Like Black Chazz. You know, he's the he's the people's champ.
- 30:26Speaker 1: He don't care about the Grammys, he don't want to
- 30:27Speaker 1: do your interviews. He's not trying to do for the likes,
- 30:29Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he's trying to he's
- 30:31Speaker 1: the community ambassador like all that kind of right. He
- 30:34Speaker 1: protects the block. And there's people that are like YO,
- 30:36Speaker 1: identify with Black Chazz. That's me and they want to
- 30:39Speaker 1: be the Conscious style just off of that, you know
- 30:42Speaker 1: what I mean, And that's what we're building.
- 30:44Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Mayham, what's your favorite card
- 30:50Speaker 5: to pull?
- 30:51Speaker 10: Like I envisioned how Lady m was talking about slammed
- 30:56Speaker 10: down like a space car, Like what's your card?
- 30:58Speaker 5: When you're like, hell yeah, they're not even ready for
- 31:00Speaker 5: what about to hacken? Right, yere.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Man, there's a lot. I would say it depends on
- 31:11Speaker 1: the style, right. So with the Chill style, the Chill style,
- 31:18Speaker 1: the philosophy with that is peaceful, long life. So there's
- 31:22Speaker 1: twelve rounds in the In any five mics game, right,
- 31:25Speaker 1: you can't go above twelve rounds, which you know turns,
- 31:29Speaker 1: you know, so this this is not like a a
- 31:32Speaker 1: never ending game. It will end by twelve rounds max,
- 31:35Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So if you're playing hardcore,
- 31:39Speaker 1: you're playing party, you're trying to end this game fast, right,
- 31:41Speaker 1: three rounds, four rounds, five rounds. If you're you're playing
- 31:45Speaker 1: chill or conscious, you know you're you're trying to go
- 31:47Speaker 1: for the long game EMO somewhere in the middle. So
- 31:51Speaker 1: in Chill, we don't have this in the starter deck
- 31:53Speaker 1: right now.
- 31:54Speaker 5: But we have this card.
- 31:56Speaker 1: It's an event card called Happy for Ready because our
- 32:03Speaker 1: main character in the chill style Stonehit Andretti, his birthday
- 32:07Speaker 1: is on April twentieth. And basically, what that allows you
- 32:11Speaker 1: to do is heal your health in such a rapid
- 32:14Speaker 1: way that makes you virtually invincible. And when you play it,
- 32:17Speaker 1: after you've been slugging for maybe five, six, seven rounds,
- 32:20Speaker 1: you think, ooh, I got them on the rope, some
- 32:22Speaker 1: bouts of kaotis due, you know whatever, and they just
- 32:25Speaker 1: heal up to full health on some like perfect cell level.
- 32:28Speaker 1: You're just like, well, I got five more rounds, ago,
- 32:31Speaker 1: I gave it all. I don't know what I'm gonna do,
- 32:33Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so like dropping that.
- 32:34Speaker 1: It's one of our like epic rare cars, you know
- 32:36Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's low key broken, but sometimes
- 32:39Speaker 1: you gotta throw one of those in there for the people.
- 32:41Speaker 1: And I like that one a lot.
- 32:45Speaker 3: Too far.
- 32:47Speaker 7: So I couldn't make the tabletop Room and Dream con.
- 32:50Speaker 7: But what has it been like just get to physically
- 32:52Speaker 7: show this to people at spaces like that?
- 32:56Speaker 1: Man, it's been nuts. It's been nuts. They talk about
- 33:01Speaker 1: when you're when you're an entrepreneur, when you're building something
- 33:05Speaker 1: Da da da da, they talk about product market fit,
- 33:07Speaker 1: and sometimes it can feel like a really weird thing,
- 33:11Speaker 1: like a weird concept, like what does that actually mean?
- 33:13Speaker 9: You know?
- 33:15Speaker 1: And the best way for me to describe it is
- 33:17Speaker 1: just do people want what it is that you're creating?
- 33:22Speaker 1: You know, like it's just really that? And and like
- 33:27Speaker 1: who right? Like if people right? Like, it's not just
- 33:29Speaker 1: people like who wants it? And so when you get
- 33:33Speaker 1: feedback from people saying, yo, if you have this physically
- 33:37Speaker 1: like mind you. When I went to dream Con with
- 33:39Speaker 1: the team, we had ten decks just to play on
- 33:45Speaker 1: some like, yo, the digital is coming, but here's something
- 33:49Speaker 1: to hold you over. Just give you a taste of
- 33:51Speaker 1: how the game plays. Did it just like our little activation,
- 33:54Speaker 1: you know, I mean, not really thinking nothing of it,
- 33:56Speaker 1: just you know, we're at dream Con and we want
- 33:59Speaker 1: to have fun, you know, playing five mics. And when
- 34:01Speaker 1: people are like, yo, if you had this for purchase
- 34:04Speaker 1: right now, I would have bought two of every single style.
- 34:06Speaker 1: I would have brought it back to the Airbnb. We
- 34:08Speaker 1: would have been playing all night. Da da da da.
- 34:11Speaker 1: When you see people who've never played TCGs before come
- 34:16Speaker 1: you know, just find us in the elevator. Literally here, yo,
- 34:20Speaker 1: you're what brought you to dream Con? Oh woo woo
- 34:23Speaker 1: five mic da da da? What your five mic hip
- 34:26Speaker 1: hop trading car game?
- 34:27Speaker 5: What?
- 34:27Speaker 3: Oh?
- 34:27Speaker 1: I was gonna go meet my friends, but let me
- 34:29Speaker 1: come with y'all real quick and tell my friends that, right,
- 34:31Speaker 1: And then they sit down and they play and they're
- 34:33Speaker 1: playing for hours and they come back the next day
- 34:37Speaker 1: like seeing that, I mean, like that's been nuts, you
- 34:42Speaker 1: know what I mean, because at that point, it's like
- 34:46Speaker 1: and it felt the same way and making music. Man,
- 34:48Speaker 1: when I was making music, I was like, Yo, if
- 34:49Speaker 1: just one person's listening to it and buying the music
- 34:52Speaker 1: or whatever, like that's worth it, you know, because there's
- 34:55Speaker 1: something that's connecting another human being. Like I care about
- 34:59Speaker 1: the souls. I'm not the numbers and all that kind
- 35:02Speaker 1: of stuff. I mean, people, I'm coming from the music industry, man,
- 35:04Speaker 1: people buy these numbers. I'm not concerned about the numbers.
- 35:07Speaker 1: I'm concerned about the souls that were actually impacting. And
- 35:10Speaker 1: so when you see stuff like that, regardless of age,
- 35:14Speaker 1: regardless of gender, regardless of background, whatever, we had all
- 35:18Speaker 1: kinds of people come by, sit down play new people.
- 35:22Speaker 1: You know, people that's been playing TCGs for years, and
- 35:25Speaker 1: you see this engagement as if they was playing Uno,
- 35:27Speaker 1: as if they was playing spades, and they've never played
- 35:30Speaker 1: this before across days. Dude. Literally, it was like, this
- 35:34Speaker 1: is what I'm doing this for too far, you know
- 35:35Speaker 1: what I mean. Like just seeing that it was like that,
- 35:38Speaker 1: that's probably like the highlight of this whole time, because
- 35:41Speaker 1: you know, most of the time as an entrepreneur, you
- 35:43Speaker 1: just be in the dark, just like I'm making something.
- 35:47Speaker 1: I hope it worked, you know what I mean, and
- 35:48Speaker 1: just seeing it come to life, you know, and honestly,
- 35:52Speaker 1: like that experience in particular was what really pushed us
- 35:55Speaker 1: to be like, Yo, the digital like it's coming, but
- 35:58Speaker 1: you know, making a digital game it takes time, you
- 36:02Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so shout outs to us
- 36:04Speaker 1: on the digital side of the of the team right
- 36:06Speaker 1: where we're like, you know, we got a code and
- 36:08Speaker 1: fixed bugs it out, but the physical it's good to go, right,
- 36:11Speaker 1: And so we got a manufacturer who's praying in and
- 36:14Speaker 1: pumping in and we're able to like get a turnaround
- 36:16Speaker 1: of like two weeks or whatever for like Mad Cards.
- 36:18Speaker 1: So it's just like, yo, let's.
- 36:19Speaker 5: Give the people what they want, you know, yeah, oh,
- 36:21Speaker 5: I know, I.
- 36:22Speaker 1: Know, you know. I give you the plug offline if
- 36:27Speaker 1: you want.
- 36:27Speaker 5: But yeah, whooped.
- 36:33Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you what came first for you
- 36:35Speaker 6: the drawings of your.
- 36:36Speaker 3: Characters or the lore.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Ooh, so the world that the characters live in came first, right,
- 36:54Speaker 1: And so just at high level, you know, this is
- 36:57Speaker 1: a world where to have the ability, like to have
- 37:05Speaker 1: a hip hop gift is a true gift. It's a
- 37:09Speaker 1: supernatural gift, and to unlock it is on some like
- 37:16Speaker 1: X Men mutant level, like when you really tap that
- 37:18Speaker 1: aspect of your soul, it manifests in a way based
- 37:23Speaker 1: off of your nurture and your nature, and so like,
- 37:26Speaker 1: for example, we got Big Hot Girls, Shock Him, and
- 37:30Speaker 1: Black Chaz. And here's how, like the characters started to
- 37:34Speaker 1: form based off of the lord that was set, but
- 37:36Speaker 1: then the characters take a life of their own that
- 37:38Speaker 1: then informed the lord of your further. Right, So we
- 37:40Speaker 1: got Big Hot Girl, She's she's our hardcore style, right,
- 37:44Speaker 1: our main artists in the hardcore style. We got Shock
- 37:46Speaker 1: Him the emo style. We got Black Chazz of the
- 37:50Speaker 1: conscious style. All three of them is from the same hood.
- 37:53Speaker 1: And they all had three different experiences in this hood.
- 37:57Speaker 1: It's a dangerous hood and big hot girl. You know,
- 38:01Speaker 1: she's seen a lot, She's done a lot in order
- 38:03Speaker 1: to survive, and you know, hip hop came along this ability.
- 38:07Speaker 1: She you know, realized that yo, I could put words together,
- 38:10Speaker 1: but also I could put emotions behind these words that
- 38:12Speaker 1: can move people. She's like, oh, this could make me
- 38:15Speaker 1: money where I could get out of the hood and
- 38:17Speaker 1: not do the stuff that I'm currently doing in order
- 38:19Speaker 1: to make a different life, you.
- 38:20Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
- 38:20Speaker 1: And so she's in this current part in the Genesis
- 38:24Speaker 1: set right, she's one foot in, one foot out. She's like,
- 38:27Speaker 1: try my best, trying to leave the past behind me,
- 38:30Speaker 1: but if you test me, it is the last time,
- 38:34Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that's her mol Just
- 38:36Speaker 1: get out of my way. I'm trying my best, but
- 38:39Speaker 1: don't act like I'm soft. And that's her whole right,
- 38:41Speaker 1: and so her her superpower of pyrokinesis is really just
- 38:46Speaker 1: based off of that fire, that acerbic like when she
- 38:48Speaker 1: raps like, it's just I don't care how you feel
- 38:51Speaker 1: about it. I don't care if it makes you want easy.
- 38:53Speaker 1: I don't care if you piss yourself, Like this is
- 38:54Speaker 1: what I got in my heart. Like think of like
- 38:56Speaker 1: old school fifty cent you know what I mean, just
- 38:58Speaker 1: old school jay Z, Like just this is me. Get
- 39:02Speaker 1: out of my way. I'm gonna take it by any means.
- 39:04Speaker 4: Right.
- 39:04Speaker 1: Then you got Black Chazz, who literally we'll talk about
- 39:10Speaker 1: this in a second, but like the styles have different
- 39:12Speaker 1: like strength than weaknesses, and like hardcore and conscious are
- 39:15Speaker 1: in like direct opposition with each other. Right, So you
- 39:17Speaker 1: got Black Chas I kind of mentioned him earlier, Right,
- 39:19Speaker 1: people's champ tired of these gangsters ruin our community. Da
- 39:23Speaker 1: da dah, community ambassador this kind of stuff. Right, And
- 39:25Speaker 1: so for him, his ability is earth mineral manipulation, Like
- 39:30Speaker 1: he can make any weapon or object out of dirt.
- 39:33Speaker 1: He could literally make diamond chains theoretically, but because he
- 39:40Speaker 1: does not believe in the need to wear these things
- 39:43Speaker 1: in order to associate some kind of status or value
- 39:46Speaker 1: of himself. Like he literally does not do it, but
- 39:49Speaker 1: he could, right, like it just the fact that he could,
- 39:51Speaker 1: But he restrains himself in a certain way because he
- 39:53Speaker 1: wants to, you know, lift up, lift up his community,
- 39:58Speaker 1: and be that example for his community of like yes,
- 40:00Speaker 1: I know my my communities messed up. We're struggling. Da
- 40:04Speaker 1: da da da, But like I want us to be better, right,
- 40:06Speaker 1: And so that's his whole m And then shot Kim.
- 40:09Speaker 1: Same community, same hood. Just seeing a lot of death,
- 40:11Speaker 1: just seeing a lot of you know, homies died, you know,
- 40:14Speaker 1: family members died, Da da da, And they just internalize
- 40:17Speaker 1: that in a certain way where darkness became their superpower
- 40:20Speaker 1: as they started to tap in and express their emotions musically.
- 40:24Speaker 1: And so yes, they make really dope narrative albums that
- 40:28Speaker 1: make you cry and make you feel like you're think
- 40:30Speaker 1: of like old school eminem or like he makes the
- 40:33Speaker 1: Kim song, You're like, wow, he really just killed his wife,
- 40:35Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that kind of like
- 40:37Speaker 1: sensational feeling in their music, but their superpower as well. Right,
- 40:42Speaker 1: it's it literally, the best way to describe it is
- 40:45Speaker 1: like they can make you feel like you are having
- 40:47Speaker 1: a panic attack or a heart attack in the most
- 40:50Speaker 1: like you're just surrounded in darkness, when in reality you're
- 40:54Speaker 1: just like sitting there or whatever. Right, But like that's
- 40:56Speaker 1: their ability, right, It's just surround you in this like
- 40:58Speaker 1: dark And all three of them are in the same hood,
- 41:00Speaker 1: and all three of them possess this this this ability
- 41:04Speaker 1: to channel specific styles in our lore, and as they
- 41:08Speaker 1: are on their way to be the greatest of all time.
- 41:11Speaker 1: You know, as you develop, you know, your audience and
- 41:14Speaker 1: your base and your your influence, your abilities grow as well,
- 41:18Speaker 1: and so you know, over time, right, we'll have like
- 41:20Speaker 1: newer versions of these characters with like stronger abilities and
- 41:23Speaker 1: things of that nature. But I'm a relax but that
- 41:26Speaker 1: that's it starts with the lore and then you build
- 41:28Speaker 1: the characters on top. And we got a bunch of
- 41:30Speaker 1: other characters and some of it right like as we
- 41:32Speaker 1: developed the story, like these other characters will follow and
- 41:34Speaker 1: some of them will have spinoffs and all that kind
- 41:36Speaker 1: of stuff.
- 41:38Speaker 11: Lady, Sorry, no, I had to amuse. I'm kind of like,
- 41:48Speaker 11: I am not a hard person like that like you.
- 41:51Speaker 3: Yo.
- 41:51Speaker 9: I seen other people play that, so this is gonna
- 41:54Speaker 9: be new to me a lot.
- 41:55Speaker 11: I did see that you were talking about different packs,
- 41:59Speaker 11: So can when the packs actually interact with each other,
- 42:02Speaker 11: because I saw that the way that you even sell them,
- 42:04Speaker 11: you can sell you can get them all at once.
- 42:07Speaker 11: So if I have a chill pack and somebody else
- 42:09Speaker 11: has the hardcore pack, can we bring those two together
- 42:12Speaker 11: and start bounding each other out.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Absolutely, in fact, that's what you have to do, you
- 42:16Speaker 1: know what I mean, because one deck is like for you,
- 42:19Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like if you was to
- 42:20Speaker 1: get the Chill deck, which by the way, for anybody
- 42:22Speaker 1: like please do it, definitely, I could teach you how
- 42:25Speaker 1: to play all this kind of stuff. We got a
- 42:26Speaker 1: tutorial building all this kind of stuff, right, But like
- 42:28Speaker 1: you know, the starter decks is literally like that complete
- 42:31Speaker 1: set for you to just take it and just run right.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Like if you was to get the Chill deck, You're like,
- 42:35Speaker 1: I bet I'm running chill, you know. And then you
- 42:38Speaker 1: got Chris who got the Hardcore deck, and it's like
- 42:41Speaker 1: I bet my Chill deck versus your hard core deck,
- 42:43Speaker 1: and you just run it right. As far as how
- 42:45Speaker 1: the styles work, you know, you can. You can make
- 42:50Speaker 1: a thirty card deck of any style that you want.
- 42:52Speaker 1: You just have to have fifteen artists within those thirty cards,
- 42:56Speaker 1: no more, no less, and then the other fifteen cards
- 43:00Speaker 1: are like items or events, you know what I mean.
- 43:02Speaker 1: But outside of that, you can mix a match, you
- 43:04Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. There's specific like rules around
- 43:08Speaker 1: like stout, we don't got to get into that right now.
- 43:09Speaker 1: But like effectively you can make your own deck, right,
- 43:11Speaker 1: we just wanted to make it super easy for like,
- 43:14Speaker 1: if you didn't want to make your own debt, you
- 43:16Speaker 1: just wanted to have like a completed debth for you
- 43:18Speaker 1: to just get in and start playing. That's exactly what
- 43:20Speaker 1: we did it for, right, and just based off of
- 43:22Speaker 1: like the the how this style should feel like the
- 43:26Speaker 1: party stell. For example, money is power, Like that's all
- 43:29Speaker 1: about like getting as many bags as you possibly can
- 43:31Speaker 1: in one round, so you can spend a lot of
- 43:33Speaker 1: money and do a lot of damage in just one turn,
- 43:36Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so like if that's
- 43:38Speaker 1: your vibe, you know, like if you're I like spending
- 43:42Speaker 1: money rero fast right now, Da da dah, Like that's
- 43:45Speaker 1: the styff for you, you know what I mean. If
- 43:48Speaker 1: hardcore right absolute aggression, all you're trying to do is
- 43:50Speaker 1: just punch a hole into somebody's face as fast as
- 43:53Speaker 1: possible in the games, that's the style for you, you
- 43:55Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like it just it's really as
- 43:57Speaker 1: simple as that, you know. But we have one hundred
- 44:00Speaker 1: eighty cars just in this one set, And what's really
- 44:02Speaker 1: dope about trading card games, right, It's like you're constantly
- 44:05Speaker 1: making new cards and stuff like that. So you could
- 44:07Speaker 1: have a deck. It's like your pet deck, you know
- 44:09Speaker 1: what I mean. Oh, I love I love Pretty MILLI
- 44:12Speaker 1: I love everything about her d D da da. And
- 44:13Speaker 1: as new cards come, you could be like, yo, I
- 44:16Speaker 1: like that card. I like how that works. You know,
- 44:18Speaker 1: maybe I swapped that for a different card in my
- 44:20Speaker 1: party deck, right, And I'm still running this party deck,
- 44:23Speaker 1: but I'm just right maybe enhancing it, adding different cards
- 44:26Speaker 1: in it, right, Like that's that's essentially what you will
- 44:29Speaker 1: be able to do. But just even right now, I mean, yeah,
- 44:32Speaker 1: we have people that are buying all of the sets
- 44:34Speaker 1: all at once because they're just like I don't want
- 44:36Speaker 1: to choose, or I want to be able to have
- 44:37Speaker 1: different abilities, or I want to be able to mix
- 44:39Speaker 1: and match my cards and create my own deck whatever.
- 44:42Speaker 1: And then there's some that are like yo, I just
- 44:43Speaker 1: want like two of them or three of them, or
- 44:45Speaker 1: just maybe I really love party and that's all I want.
- 44:47Speaker 9: Right, But.
- 44:49Speaker 1: If you wanted to play with another person, then like
- 44:51Speaker 1: both people would need to have a deck each.
- 44:54Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, I like, I know we had when
- 45:00Speaker 3: through the trial run Sunday. And as we were as you,
- 45:03Speaker 3: as you were describing the characters to me, every last
- 45:06Speaker 3: one of them was giving me. Yeah, that's Eric Abados
- 45:09Speaker 3: vibes right there, that's that's that's that's fifty right there,
- 45:15Speaker 3: that's Meg all day long, you know, or little Kim.
- 45:19Speaker 3: And I was those vibes and it was and that's like,
- 45:22Speaker 3: like I told you, I said, this is giving me
- 45:24Speaker 3: Death Jam New York Death Jam video game vibes. This
- 45:29Speaker 3: is randomly going in and I'm like, but I like this,
- 45:34Speaker 3: you know, because it was easy to it was easy
- 45:36Speaker 3: to learn. Once again, never play trade, never play tables
- 45:39Speaker 3: out gaming. But I'm looking and I'm learning. I'm like, yo,
- 45:42Speaker 3: this is this is dope. I like this. And then
- 45:44Speaker 3: as you're saying like, yeah, you can get two on
- 45:46Speaker 3: one depending on their power set, you know, just kind
- 45:50Speaker 3: of team up. Hey, we got to get these two
- 45:51Speaker 3: and we gotta team up with gets pretty million in order.
- 45:55Speaker 3: But but but if the roles are reversed, she can
- 45:58Speaker 3: give a knockout in verse and I'm like, yo, I
- 46:01Speaker 3: like that.
- 46:03Speaker 1: Yeah, he's talking about jumping, by the way, in our
- 46:07Speaker 1: in our in our game, you can jump other you
- 46:10Speaker 1: could jump other artists. Yeah, bro, this is a hip
- 46:13Speaker 1: hop trading card game, Like what do you want from us?
- 46:15Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So like so like artists,
- 46:18Speaker 1: artists battles, So like okay, for example, right, and you know,
- 46:21Speaker 1: forgive the background doing any but like let's say we
- 46:24Speaker 1: have these two artists and they're battling with each other, right,
- 46:27Speaker 1: They're typically the way that battling works is that one
- 46:29Speaker 1: artist battles the other, and by the right, like five mics,
- 46:32Speaker 1: we're not testing your hip hop ability. This isn't like
- 46:34Speaker 1: rap me a song from nineteen ninety seven to ut
- 46:37Speaker 1: like these like this has this effectively has nothing to
- 46:40Speaker 1: do with hip hop, but everything to do with hip
- 46:42Speaker 1: hop at the same exact time. Right, But like you know,
- 46:44Speaker 1: these artists have attack values and defense values, and you're
- 46:47Speaker 1: literally just comparing, like does this artist attack equal or
- 46:51Speaker 1: is greater than the defense of this other artist? If so,
- 46:53Speaker 1: that artist is ko and vice versa. Right, And so
- 46:56Speaker 1: typically the battles just happen one v one. But our
- 47:00Speaker 1: times where it's like, yo, this one artist's attack is
- 47:03Speaker 1: not greater than or equal to the defense of this artist.
- 47:07Speaker 1: But if I combine two of these artists or three
- 47:09Speaker 1: of these artists and sum up their attack values. Then
- 47:13Speaker 1: that is equal to or greater than the defense of
- 47:15Speaker 1: that other art We call that jumping. So you can
- 47:17Speaker 1: attack with multiple of your own artists against one artist,
- 47:21Speaker 1: and it just you know, just as that I don't know,
- 47:23Speaker 1: this is a hip hop ye, people get jumped, you know.
- 47:28Speaker 1: And so as I was explaining to that to Christy,
- 47:30Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is like a fighting game. And
- 47:32Speaker 1: like literally, like I was at a local game store
- 47:34Speaker 1: in La a couple of weeks ago, and I was
- 47:36Speaker 1: playing with this dude that like, you know, loves you
- 47:38Speaker 1: Gio and loves the TCGs as well, right, Like, this
- 47:40Speaker 1: is a TCG player, and this is what's been really dope. Right,
- 47:43Speaker 1: It's like I play with both I played with people
- 47:45Speaker 1: that's never played a TCG before and hurt their their feedback.
- 47:48Speaker 1: And I played with people that heavy in the one
- 47:50Speaker 1: piece and the heartstone and da da da. And he
- 47:53Speaker 1: was like, yo, this this felt like chaos, but I
- 47:57Speaker 1: love it, you know, like it could because because when
- 47:59Speaker 1: you're fighting, right, like, it feels way more like a
- 48:02Speaker 1: fighting game than it does a traditional trading card game.
- 48:04Speaker 1: And so when Chris was like Yo, this feels like
- 48:06Speaker 1: deaf jam Vendett. It was like, yeah, like that's what
- 48:09Speaker 1: we're going for right where you can't. It's really just
- 48:13Speaker 1: ay man, I got artists on the stage and there
- 48:15Speaker 1: and they're fighting, right and it's up to you to
- 48:17Speaker 1: decide which artists from your roster you want to put
- 48:19Speaker 1: on the stage in order to battle. But at the
- 48:22Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, you're just battling your artists,
- 48:25Speaker 1: and you got different items that you're equipping them with.
- 48:27Speaker 1: Maybe you're equipping with the microphone, maybe you got pet roach,
- 48:30Speaker 1: maybe you got a trap card called caught Slipping, and
- 48:33Speaker 1: you know, they play a certain card and then that
- 48:35Speaker 1: artist blows up like it's just stuff like that. But
- 48:38Speaker 1: it just feels way more like a trading card game
- 48:40Speaker 1: than like that's why you know, Lady m if you're like, yo,
- 48:43Speaker 1: I've never you know, I've seen you yo cards. I
- 48:45Speaker 1: picked them up to, you know, rescue them, but I've
- 48:48Speaker 1: never played the game. It's like, Yo, don't even worry
- 48:51Speaker 1: about it, because we're as as much as this is
- 48:54Speaker 1: a TCG, it's also not like anything that TCGs have
- 48:58Speaker 1: ever been before. And I'm not saying that said to
- 49:01Speaker 1: my own horn.
- 49:01Speaker 3: This is what people have said, right, So yeah, no, dude,
- 49:05Speaker 3: I mean, uh, sparks, We're gonna go to you and
- 49:08Speaker 3: then we're gonna go to take a break.
- 49:11Speaker 5: I got no questions because I literally just been in
- 49:13Speaker 5: the comments thinking of every every hip hop artist and
- 49:16Speaker 5: what their car could possibly be.
- 49:19Speaker 1: I know, I've seen it.
- 49:21Speaker 3: Uh, I guess the only question I can think of,
- 49:24Speaker 3: and I'm trying to think what else could be possibly asked. Shoot,
- 49:31Speaker 3: if you had a Okay, this is probably gonna be
- 49:35Speaker 3: You're what was by far the car you thought of?
- 49:38Speaker 3: It was like, oh, this is gonna be a hit.
- 49:40Speaker 3: And what's the card you thought of? Was like, oh
- 49:42Speaker 3: this might work. I'm gonna throw it in there anyway.
- 49:51Speaker 1: Huh, out of the starter deccess coming or just in
- 49:54Speaker 1: general dealer's choice, dealer's choice, Okay, I'll do the starter deck.
- 50:02Speaker 1: So the one that was like, Yo, this is definitely
- 50:04Speaker 1: gonna hit. It's gonna be dope, but it's ended up
- 50:08Speaker 1: being doper than I even thought was big Hot Girl.
- 50:12Speaker 1: And you know, big hot girl no relation to Meggae Stallion.
- 50:15Speaker 1: You know, being a hot girl, being a hot boy's
- 50:17Speaker 1: Southern slang for you know, being a hustler again it
- 50:19Speaker 1: in however, you need to be da da da. But
- 50:23Speaker 1: you know, her ability is so it's so oppressive. So
- 50:31Speaker 1: she's a she's a three attack four defense artist. She's
- 50:34Speaker 1: one of the main artists on the stage, right, and
- 50:37Speaker 1: when she's attacking, uh you, the she gets plus three
- 50:42Speaker 1: attack on top of that, right, So instead of a
- 50:44Speaker 1: three four, she ends up being a six to four right.
- 50:46Speaker 1: And so she could just completely a br like just
- 50:49Speaker 1: imagine her like throwing like a komand maya like wave
- 50:52Speaker 1: at somebody right, like she just completely obliterates her op.
- 50:56Speaker 1: And so I was like, oh, you know, I think
- 50:59Speaker 1: this is gonna be dope. And people very much like
- 51:01Speaker 1: just have fallen in love with cock grow across the board,
- 51:04Speaker 1: even if they've never played the game. They're just like,
- 51:06Speaker 1: y'all love her. The one that I was like, I
- 51:08Speaker 1: wasn't sure, but I'm gonna just throw it in any
- 51:10Speaker 1: way was pet roach. So pet roach. Pet roach is
- 51:16Speaker 1: an item card and the chill deck at the end
- 51:19Speaker 1: of your round you can hear one. And I was like, oh,
- 51:22Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of weak, and also like who, like,
- 51:24Speaker 1: no one loves roaches like you do everything in your
- 51:27Speaker 1: power to get rid of a roach. You know, if
- 51:29Speaker 1: anyone's ever experienced roaches, I'm from the hood. I've definitely
- 51:32Speaker 1: experienced my fair share. You don't like roaches, and so
- 51:35Speaker 1: why would I have a pet? But like, there's three
- 51:37Speaker 1: of them in the chill deck, and I was like,
- 51:39Speaker 1: maybe this is a little too like ugh. But eleven
- 51:43Speaker 1: year old Rickie, who I was mentioning earlier, he loves
- 51:46Speaker 1: pet roaches and won all of his games with the
- 51:50Speaker 1: pet roaches. He ended up we took a picture. He
- 51:53Speaker 1: was like, I gotta have my roaches in the picture.
- 51:55Speaker 1: And it was just like for for this this young
- 52:01Speaker 1: scholar so love broaches was just a wild thing for me.
- 52:06Speaker 1: And it was like, Yo, this game is powerful. We
- 52:09Speaker 1: can literally rewrite anything that we want to do in
- 52:13Speaker 1: this very thing right here. So that's my answer for
- 52:15Speaker 1: you many.
- 52:16Speaker 5: Although I wouldn't hear of make the stallion just happen
- 52:18Speaker 5: to hop on the hot girl card. You're like, hey,
- 52:22Speaker 5: I'm not.
- 52:22Speaker 1: Gonna come on, that'd be crazy. A.
- 52:28Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break. We got a little bit
- 52:30Speaker 3: of news. Can you stick around?
- 52:32Speaker 1: Of course?
- 52:33Speaker 3: All right, Uh, we will be right back, getting right here, Okay,
- 52:38Speaker 3: we go, we'll be right back. We're gonna be talking
- 52:41Speaker 3: to Ace and we're gonna be talking about some of
- 52:42Speaker 3: the news, not a lot of news, because we're gonna
- 52:44Speaker 3: jump right in the Agatha because.
- 52:47Speaker 5: Yeah, so we will be right.
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- 55:36Speaker 3: that depression and cubical job. Well anyway, try pop stars today.
- 55:40Speaker 3: Pop Stars is not part of the catalog's corporation. Pop
- 55:42Speaker 3: Stars can give you diarrhea. Pop stars are not founded
- 55:44Speaker 3: in your local grocery store. All right, everybody, We've got
- 56:04Speaker 3: our green lanterns. Uh, they are here now, and.
- 56:12Speaker 5: I'm okay with it.
- 56:13Speaker 3: I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. Our latest
- 56:16Speaker 3: green lantern besides Kyle Chandler is Aaron Pierre. Now, if
- 56:21Speaker 3: you've seen Rebel Ridge, which has recently been aired on Netflix,
- 56:25Speaker 3: he puts on one hell of a performance. Ah, and
- 56:29Speaker 3: he's going to be the new green lantern.
- 56:34Speaker 5: In the lightest of nights.
- 56:41Speaker 3: So I don't have a problem with it because his
- 56:46Speaker 3: acting power is obviously showed. If I've seen him in
- 56:49Speaker 3: other projects and he was attached to Blade, he was
- 56:53Speaker 3: he was supposed to be a net project and he
- 56:55Speaker 3: had to leave h and but if I once again,
- 56:59Speaker 3: if you've seen Rebel will Ridge and you know John Stewart,
- 57:04Speaker 3: that aesthetic fits, but we've had a problem with the
- 57:11Speaker 3: color issue.
- 57:19Speaker 5: You just put in Michael Eat.
- 57:21Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not, once again not taking
- 57:27Speaker 3: anyway anything from the actor himself. It's just we see
- 57:33Speaker 3: an issue. We've seen this before. We've seen we we've
- 57:37Speaker 3: seen this before with with Storm, you know, who is
- 57:43Speaker 3: traditionally a dark skinned character, and this is what we get.
- 57:50Speaker 3: So so BZ the Voice is not happy with it.
- 57:58Speaker 3: Uh he said, where was the auditions because he's already
- 58:02Speaker 3: played John Stewart m hm.
- 58:06Speaker 10: The Z was doing an age appropriate crash out on Facebook.
- 58:14Speaker 10: I was like, somebody that brothers.
- 58:17Speaker 5: He was upset.
- 58:19Speaker 4: He's just he's justified.
- 58:21Speaker 3: He was like, wait a minute, where was the auditions at?
- 58:23Speaker 3: He was like, did they not see I've done this?
- 58:26Speaker 3: But no, Kyle Channeler will be playing uh hal Jordan
- 58:31Speaker 3: mm hmmm.
- 58:31Speaker 7: And we have it.
- 58:33Speaker 5: We have it right there.
- 58:36Speaker 3: I'll let it play out. I let it play out.
- 58:41Speaker 3: If this is the issue. I can't think of any
- 58:45Speaker 3: other superhero that's been portrayed on screen that wasn't that
- 58:51Speaker 3: wasn't exact. I mean, we've gotten Blade, We've gotten uh wow, Darwin.
- 58:59Speaker 6: But that's yeah, a little let that thing a little.
- 59:08Speaker 3: Looked fine. It was just your whole darling. I'm sorry,
- 59:12Speaker 3: the old darling, and I've never.
- 59:14Speaker 5: Forgiven you for that. Our can survive anything and yet
- 59:18Speaker 5: any concrete.
- 59:20Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
- 59:24Speaker 5: It's just one of It's just one of those things.
- 59:25Speaker 1: You know.
- 59:29Speaker 3: There was other there was other actors. There was another
- 59:31Speaker 3: actor in the role, but then then it was just
- 59:33Speaker 3: announced this other actor actually picked up another role anyway,
- 59:36Speaker 3: so who knows?
- 59:38Speaker 5: Who knows in that room. I just like my John.
- 59:42Speaker 5: I just like my John Stewart to be dark chocolate,
- 59:44Speaker 5: because that's what I grew up on, right.
- 59:46Speaker 7: I feel like somebody in our chest said Rebel Ridge
- 59:49Speaker 7: watched them just put this man in any and everything,
- 59:52Speaker 7: and it's been like a week.
- 59:53Speaker 5: And a half.
- 59:54Speaker 4: Well, no, that was him.
- 59:58Speaker 7: It's funny because a thousand people mad right now about
- 1:00:00Speaker 7: Green Lantern, who don't know they're about to watch him
- 1:00:02Speaker 7: play move.
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: Like a week later. Because I'm like, yo, Johneen was
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: originally supposed to be in Rebel Rich Oh, I like
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: that guy.
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: We got cheated Jesus Christ.
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: So whatever, whatever the reason was that John Boyega left,
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: he literally left in the middle of the production, and
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: whatever the reason was, they called in Aaron Pierre and
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: I'm wondering if that's why Aaron left the Blade project.
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: All I got is black Manta was available. Yeah yeah,
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: mister mister, mister mate was available.
- 1:00:50Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: I think.
- 1:00:55Speaker 9: The character, I think he's a little bit too charismatic
- 1:00:58Speaker 9: for that. I'm just that's just me.
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: But we'll see.
- 1:01:04Speaker 7: Look, if we're doing mild middle age, if we're doing
- 1:01:07Speaker 7: mildly adult, middle aged lanterns, you could make it right
- 1:01:10Speaker 7: if you just put Phil Lamar in the suit one time.
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: Just just give him right, just give that. Just give
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: that man his props is ain't it ain't like you've
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: been there before.
- 1:01:19Speaker 6: I think he should be the I think he could
- 1:01:22Speaker 6: be the voice of what.
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: Yeah right, fine once again? Voice voice by another dark
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: skinned actor.
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: Mm hmm, voice by the person who he beat in
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: the audition.
- 1:01:41Speaker 5: All I can sit there and say, is we're cool
- 1:01:43Speaker 5: to voice Act one plus in front of the camera.
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: Cool.
- 1:01:48Speaker 6: I want I want dark, dark skinned black men everywhere
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: to have a form of representation where they are not
- 1:01:58Speaker 6: playing the villain, They're not playing somebody who is unintelligent,
- 1:02:03Speaker 6: where they're not playing somebody that's the goofy sidekick friend.
- 1:02:08Speaker 6: I want somebody that is going to be undeniably something.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: To look up to.
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: I mean we have them, Yes, we do have them.
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: Not of d C.
- 1:02:22Speaker 6: Green Lantern. John Stewart's status, y'all.
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: Do not have that.
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: You.
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: I mean, he was on part you have.
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: Mister terrific. He's he's exactly, he's exactly right cast type
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: for it.
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: So they have that. We have them. We we do
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: have them. It's just I am is because I think
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: I've seen him in other I've seen him in other projects,
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: So is what what happened?
- 1:02:58Speaker 9: You know?
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: I just feel the type of way because I'm I'm
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: I'm a John Stewart fan. I mean, Guy Gardner can
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: go to hell. I love how Jordan kyl Rain is cool,
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: but John Stewart is that's the that's the that's who
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: my comics of Greenland are surrounded on.
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: So when I see something like that, I'm just like you, hollywooded.
- 1:03:17Speaker 6: It and everybody else on this this DC universe looks
- 1:03:25Speaker 6: scamn near, if not exactly whatever it is they've gotten
- 1:03:28Speaker 6: from the comics.
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: But this is the one, This is the one that you.
- 1:03:33Speaker 6: Sorry, I can't figure.
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: It probably is the eyes. It's probably is the eyes.
- 1:03:41Speaker 5: That's why I said in Brightest Day and Lightest Night,
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: they're gonna change the words.
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: I am looking forward to see how Nathan Fillian pulls
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: off Guy Gardner and if he's doing the damn bowl cut,
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: if he is, if he does come out like if
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: he does come out with a bowl cut at the
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: same time, with the same mattitude the guy that Gardner has,
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: He'll be fine, be freaking hilarious. That's what it's gonna be.
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: So But.
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: But I do congratulations, I'm glad you find your found
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: your actor. I'll wait to see how this plays out,
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: because we have been proven wrong by actors of any
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: caliber playing different.
- 1:04:22Speaker 6: But that's not the point. We all know he's gonna
- 1:04:25Speaker 6: do a fantastic job bringing out Green Lantern. He for
- 1:04:29Speaker 6: his for everything else, absolutely perfect, absolutely perfect. The point
- 1:04:35Speaker 6: is there is so much more that could have been.
- 1:04:40Speaker 6: It would have meant so much more to find somebody
- 1:04:43Speaker 6: of that complexion that's not that's usually not digestible by
- 1:04:49Speaker 6: mainstream media. It would have meant an incredible amount more
- 1:04:53Speaker 6: to people that don't look like Jimmy Gunn to understand
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: how much of an impact that it would have been,
- 1:04:59Speaker 6: and how the longevity of having somebody in that position
- 1:05:03Speaker 6: doing a good job more than like in that position
- 1:05:08Speaker 6: for long term imper.
- 1:05:16Speaker 5: Go ahead. It's your time to shine between you.
- 1:05:20Speaker 10: I just want everyone to I need Trey to have
- 1:05:24Speaker 10: his his moment in the light because I want John Stewart,
- 1:05:28Speaker 10: not John B.
- 1:05:29Speaker 5: Stewart is the greatest comment. And that is excellent.
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: And like you know who who so, who's responsible for
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: I don't know, like who who's producing this movie?
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: Who's like the I know it's a it's a series
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: that they're going to be putting on. Max. Not sure
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: who's actually behind the scenes.
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not.
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: I'm not surprised shock the people.
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: They said that are behind it are behind the that's
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: you know, writing and directing it. They are behind some
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: major uh shows that deal because this is supposed to
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: be like a it's a cop show. It's a cop show.
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: That makes me that that makes me nervous. Chris Chris
- 1:06:24Speaker 5: Money is a showrunner?
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: What what what does he do?
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: Ozarks?
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: He's done to detect the Night Country, Chronel Minds, Cold
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: Case and Bloodline.
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: I'm not shocked.
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: At all.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, is like you right, Like, I'm
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: not gonna walk into the Peruvian restaurant asking for oxtail.
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: I'm just gonna, you know, I'm gonna get my lobo,
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: my lobo, have a great time.
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
- 1:06:58Speaker 5: I love it.
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: Uh but uh, Hendry Caville is attached to another project,
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: and he's attached to the live action Voltron movie that
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: this man said, y'all, y'all took Superman from me. I'm
- 1:07:12Speaker 3: going to do everything I possibly can to piss you off.
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: I'm going to And then he turned around, You're not
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: doing a rich right, I'm going to go do Warhammer
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: because I like Warhammer. And then he said, and I'm
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: doing Voltron. He said, I'm going to.
- 1:07:31Speaker 5: Space Marine too.
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: Is so much fun.
- 1:07:34Speaker 9: It is so much right now.
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: So he's I mean, he's already played the Calvaline, which
- 1:07:42Speaker 3: not gonna lie, pretty damn perfect for the short amount
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: of time he was in it. And Michael, damn, who's
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: gonna tell this.
- 1:07:50Speaker 5: Man at this point, we just want to let you
- 1:07:52Speaker 5: know so much better.
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: He wasn't lying. He said what every nerd on the
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: planet was things He was like you know what come
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: over here? That was?
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: That was.
- 1:08:13Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Bultromp. I can live with that. I
- 1:08:15Speaker 5: can see you on Boltrop's mess that with up. I'm
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: in sa It's hard to mess it up.
- 1:08:34Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, Bultron, Wait wait wait, Mario.
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: Man, I'm not saying that.
- 1:08:44Speaker 5: I'm just saying they need to mess up anything. I
- 1:08:47Speaker 5: had a bad series. Well they're not.
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: They're not saying they're not saying how he was playing yet.
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: So I'm not just saying that they ever bad. No,
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: I completely understand that. But what I'm saying is in defense,
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: I will die alone this hill. Name a bad Bultron series.
- 1:09:06Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I never finished them, but yeah, no.
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: Goes to Zack Snyder. Oh no, don't don't. Don't put
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: that evil on that.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: Don't do that.
- 1:09:23Speaker 4: That's just wrong. Don't put that on us.
- 1:09:26Speaker 5: He Listen, my mother was a huge Bultron fan. Her
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: birthday is coming up Sunday.
- 1:09:31Speaker 10: I want to say in her honor, if it gets
- 1:09:34Speaker 10: messed up, I'm going to have to write someone an
- 1:09:36Speaker 10: angry letter.
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: It's going to Amazon, Amazon, MGM Studios.
- 1:09:41Speaker 10: It's not going We would threaten to write angry letters.
- 1:09:44Speaker 10: All the time in her honor.
- 1:09:46Speaker 4: On this day.
- 1:09:47Speaker 10: If Bultron's bad, I'm going to find who's responsible and
- 1:09:52Speaker 10: write the angriest pissy letter possible.
- 1:09:55Speaker 5: That's why did something that demon?
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: Oh Lord, it ain't me, he's not he's not attached.
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: So that's good.
- 1:10:09Speaker 5: That's good.
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: But uh.
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: Jesus, so episode five of Agatha All Along dropped And
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: as we've noticed, in every fifth episode of every streaming
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: network show that's popped, it's always been something to go
- 1:10:29Speaker 3: off the rails. I have a couple of questions.
- 1:10:35Speaker 6: Why was that episode so short?
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: That was?
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: That was one because.
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: I'm gonna admit I haven't seen it yet, so I'm just.
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: Because I knew, I knew it was coming, but I just.
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: I have kids to I just do.
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: It, so so that short, I'm grown.
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: I'm grown.
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: The duration, the duration of the runtime was my second question.
- 1:11:07Speaker 3: My first question was, even though this was Agatha's trial,
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: was it really her trial?
- 1:11:15Speaker 8: Hmm?
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: I didn't see Lady Me and Lady Aam wasn't wearing
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: the same because it was I'm like, okay, you faced
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: the ghost of your mother, But there was no real trial,
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: there was no resolution.
- 1:11:29Speaker 5: No, it was a trial. But it was directed throng.
- 1:11:32Speaker 5: It wasn't the person you thought it was.
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: No, it was her trial. It was her trial. But
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: unlike a trial Nancy, unlike Alice's trial where she had
- 1:11:44Speaker 3: to face the curse and the demon that was placed
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: on her family, and she exercise said demon in curse,
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: Agatha didn't have that, like you said, lady. There was
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: no resolution, relution. There was the ghost of her mother
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: showing up saying, you guys are wrong. You should not
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: be teamed up with her. You should have died, blah
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: blah blah whatever, whatever, whatever, it's messed up with her.
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: Mama said, though, I'm like, god, not not not not.
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: When you got older, I started noticing things. No, from
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: the time you came out the wound, I should have
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: gotten rid of you.
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 1:12:25Speaker 5: I was girls.
- 1:12:27Speaker 3: I was kind of like, I was like, real, yeah,
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: we can do anything, but she's not going back to
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: her mom. So she was like, yeah, so so it
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: was something Sorry, No, No, it was some things that
- 1:12:42Speaker 3: I questioned about that particular those moments, and I said, well,
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: there wasn't. There wasn't a payoff. It's not a bash,
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: it's not a bad episode, but that payoff wasn't there
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: for like, okay, what were you supposed to actually face
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: because the Salem seven is coming?
- 1:13:00Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
- 1:13:03Speaker 3: Your mother you said what I thought it was her.
- 1:13:05Speaker 9: Own greed that she was supposed to face and and fail.
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: That she did and she still failed.
- 1:13:11Speaker 11: I mean that I thought that that was the trial though,
- 1:13:14Speaker 11: to face her own greed and try to get out
- 1:13:16Speaker 11: of there.
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: But there was there was a but that not to
- 1:13:19Speaker 5: give it away though, but if you go back to
- 1:13:21Speaker 5: that certain.
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: Event, give man do it. This is this is spoiler now, okay, okay,
- 1:13:33Speaker 3: see I remember when they had the Wuigi board, there
- 1:13:35Speaker 3: were certain rules they couldn't break.
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: Right and.
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: Spoil.
- 1:13:46Speaker 5: Yeah, there was one that.
- 1:13:49Speaker 3: But yeah, there was there was one rule when they
- 1:13:51Speaker 3: all was at the Ouigi board was broken. Hints why
- 1:13:54Speaker 3: they all hints why she failed twice? Yeah?
- 1:13:59Speaker 5: Literally all the rules like.
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: Every last don't took your take your hand on the pinchannel.
- 1:14:06Speaker 5: They did that.
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: That was the first thing they did right. And team,
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: no matter what team said, like, yo, what are you doing,
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: y'all are messing.
- 1:14:21Speaker 4: Anymore?
- 1:14:21Speaker 5: We know it's not.
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: It's not team anymore. We know it's not.
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: We know it is now I'm okay with the reveal.
- 1:14:28Speaker 7: I'm not aloud to watch this annoying ass a little
- 1:14:30Speaker 7: boy for the next four episodes. So round everybody else,
- 1:14:32Speaker 7: back up, make this a flashback something I'm not.
- 1:14:35Speaker 4: I'm not going to watch his journey down the witch
- 1:14:37Speaker 4: Is road. So he's not, is it.
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: It's not really annoying though, you know, if you know,
- 1:14:43Speaker 3: if you know, if you know, it's not really.
- 1:14:45Speaker 4: Annoying either way.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: I was.
- 1:14:48Speaker 4: I was surprised. I was not the least be intimidated.
- 1:14:51Speaker 4: Bring everybody back and wrap.
- 1:14:52Speaker 5: This to get period props because he called it. He
- 1:14:57Speaker 5: called this whole thing from episode too, So I give
- 1:14:59Speaker 5: you props for that.
- 1:15:00Speaker 6: Uh you you were talking about a damn near from episode.
- 1:15:12Speaker 5: There's things I looked at.
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: I'm like, you might be onto something. Maybe let me
- 1:15:17Speaker 3: go dive down this hole real quick. I'll be right back.
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: I came back up to breath.
- 1:15:21Speaker 6: Yet, did it feel like this was more of a
- 1:15:24Speaker 6: test for Rio in a way? She's she's all she's
- 1:15:31Speaker 6: been chasing his chick down, trying to kill her. But
- 1:15:34Speaker 6: didn't It felt more like she kind of had to
- 1:15:37Speaker 6: take a step back and let these things happened to Agatha.
- 1:15:42Speaker 4: When everything was happening. If you look at it, she's
- 1:15:44Speaker 4: having the time of her life as.
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: She was.
- 1:15:51Speaker 4: I'm starting to think maybe go ahead, I was.
- 1:15:56Speaker 5: About to say, especially after the board spelled death.
- 1:15:59Speaker 9: She was so after that and then and then after that,
- 1:16:03Speaker 9: you didn't see.
- 1:16:04Speaker 5: Her, right, you didn't see.
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: Her rights She's got what she got working.
- 1:16:11Speaker 9: Mm hmmm.
- 1:16:12Speaker 7: I figured she was smiling and she's like, y'all can't
- 1:16:14Speaker 7: be talking about death because I'm over here.
- 1:16:16Speaker 4: So this is clearly not my problem, right, so.
- 1:16:21Speaker 5: I am very much.
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: Too far to answer your question or your statement to
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: It's not him being annoying, it's him playing it as
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: he's annoying.
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: Hmm, what do you mean?
- 1:16:37Speaker 5: Okay?
- 1:16:38Speaker 7: When the words is Bernie mac just to push off
- 1:16:39Speaker 7: something the ship is getting like real.
- 1:16:43Speaker 3: The fact that here's his two theories I'm running with
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: mm hmm. His mother could have put that sigil on him,
- 1:16:53Speaker 3: or he put the sigil on himself, and so no
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: matter what they asked him, and he could he could
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: answer it with no problem, they couldn't.
- 1:17:05Speaker 5: Pick up on it right.
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: Interesting playing You know he has a spell book, you know,
- 1:17:15Speaker 3: he just he doesn't. He's just trying to remember the spells.
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: He's he's playing coy. He knows these people, so he
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: has to play this annoying role until until the until
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: that flipp is that switch is flipped, and Agatha's the
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: one that flipped the switch.
- 1:17:36Speaker 4: That's what we're doing.
- 1:17:37Speaker 7: I'm okay with it because once he flipped out, he
- 1:17:40Speaker 7: just stopped speaking and I'm like, all right, are we
- 1:17:42Speaker 7: about to get a different tone here or credits.
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: Reference in the beginning or is that just something else altogether?
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: Yeah, whole drop off of I don't want this anymore.
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: He's like, I'm not going to sacrifice. People's like, oh
- 1:17:57Speaker 3: oh oh, we've hit that point in the story. Mm hmmm.
- 1:18:01Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think.
- 1:18:03Speaker 3: To answer your question would be I don't think Agatha
- 1:18:06Speaker 3: is possessed. I think the way Agatha is is because
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: the way her mother treated her.
- 1:18:14Speaker 4: Mmm.
- 1:18:16Speaker 3: So now she's just like so when you see how
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: her mom, the ghost of her mother anyway, treated her,
- 1:18:23Speaker 3: and you see how she's reacting, she's like, no, please,
- 1:18:26Speaker 3: don't let me go with her, not her, don't let
- 1:18:30Speaker 3: me go back everything she's doing. I'm like, is Agatha
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: the reason the way she is like off putting and
- 1:18:37Speaker 3: snarky and sarcastic and whatever whatever, because that's her defense mechanism.
- 1:18:44Speaker 3: Her mother treated like her shit like shit, so she
- 1:18:47Speaker 3: had no choice.
- 1:18:49Speaker 5: Your ma wanted to give you. Your mom wanted to
- 1:18:51Speaker 5: give you the good times. Iron treat it from birth.
- 1:18:53Speaker 10: That's kind of up, hey, guys, on a quick storytime.
- 1:18:58Speaker 10: It's relative to this, I promise, okay. I was dating
- 1:19:07Speaker 10: this girl who her mom.
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: I was waiting for his wife to peek in like
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
- 1:19:15Speaker 10: Whenever, whenever she would get out of pocket, she would
- 1:19:19Speaker 10: just call out a date and then and like roll
- 1:19:23Speaker 10: her eyes and move on.
- 1:19:24Speaker 5: And so like one day, like it gets to the whole,
- 1:19:28Speaker 5: like what the dates is? It's like.
- 1:19:31Speaker 12: Nineteen I was supposed to go to that appointment and
- 1:19:37Speaker 12: get you out of me, but I didn't, and you
- 1:19:40Speaker 12: need to thank god.
- 1:19:42Speaker 5: I was like, how did so how did feel the
- 1:19:47Speaker 5: day of witch?
- 1:19:49Speaker 4: That's nasty work.
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: Listen, listen.
- 1:19:57Speaker 5: The whole time.
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: Listen on that of abruptive Note, my daughter just came
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: back home crying for Papa. So I gotta here. I
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: must take care of her.
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: You know where they can ford No, listen, man, I.
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: Love y'all are so dope. I've been listening from being
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: I love. He was just like fanning out in the
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: corner because I'm like here, y'all really do talk about
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: this stuff like I'm here, we're here. I'm like I
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: knew to prepare, I didn't prepare, and here I am
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: like in the in the midst of it, you know,
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: star shup. Anyway, y'all are dope human beings.
- 1:20:39Speaker 5: Call me as you.
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: Could just call me. Youn't got to call me.
- 1:20:42Speaker 5: Call me.
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: But if you want to find my music, it's called me.
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: It's three words, is on wherever you listen to music.
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: Five mics, five mics, F I V, E, M I C, S,
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: DOT I O. We're selling starter decks right now. If
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: you're in l A, we could play in person. If
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: you're not in l A, I'll send you some. We
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: could play virtually, X, Y and Z. But I appreciate
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: y'all for just being on this journey. Literally, like I
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: said earlier, like every person matters, you know what I mean,
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: Like we're not. It's we're building something for the culture
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: about the culture. No one's doing it in this way
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: right And I've spoken to investors that don't even know
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: how to pronounce nas tell me no, no, literally literally,
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even gonna. I'm not gonna
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: act out how they set his name.
- 1:21:31Speaker 5: I'm just imagine.
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: For them, for for them to be like, Yo, who
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: would play this? Who who cares about this?
- 1:21:43Speaker 5: Right?
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: Not knowing that you know, Meg thee Stallion is doing
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: trendy anime dances, working with K pop artists, J pop artists,
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: the fact that Miles Morales is one of the most
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: popular superheroes of our day and age right now, Like
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: we are the culture, we are mainstream, and so this
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: platform everything that y'all are doing, all these conversations, yes,
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: like spoil it, you know what I mean? Like I
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: want people to really see and understand that this is real.
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: I looking at the door and just pound it right now.
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: But Tyler, she can't take it anymore, So I'm out.
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: My feeling is done. I appreciate y'all. I'm gonna tap in.
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: This won't be the only time I'm coming up here.
- 1:22:21Speaker 4: I love y'all.
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: Y'all are dope. Thank you for having me. Uh be easy,
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of it. I'm gonna listen to the
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: rest of this, all right, easy, m hm, so.
- 1:22:38Speaker 5: Front center.
- 1:22:40Speaker 3: But no, but it's it's definitely a lot for her
- 1:22:45Speaker 3: to deal with. I think that was it's she didn't
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: she faced her trauma, but she didn't conquer her trauma,
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: right because she was still that was That's what I said.
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: I like the purpose of the trials for you to
- 1:23:00Speaker 3: face your it says it in the song fear, And
- 1:23:05Speaker 3: she didn't. She she I don't think she did.
- 1:23:09Speaker 5: She ran from it.
- 1:23:11Speaker 4: Track style.
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: She said what she was the.
- 1:23:17Speaker 5: First one out of the room, Yeah, she was, she was.
- 1:23:23Speaker 3: She was pleading for her, for them not to let
- 1:23:25Speaker 3: her take her. They were ready to walk, and she
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: just would not go. She she didn't face it. And
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: and then that moment where Alice steps in and activates
- 1:23:35Speaker 3: her own power. And I don't think that was a setup.
- 1:23:42Speaker 5: Say it, say it?
- 1:23:43Speaker 4: Why?
- 1:23:44Speaker 6: Why did okay?
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: This?
- 1:23:46Speaker 6: This annoyed the ship out of me. The timer went
- 1:23:49Speaker 6: off when the chick was gone, dead gone, and the
- 1:23:54Speaker 6: door opened like three seconds after that.
- 1:23:57Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: So so because if they hadn't it, so who's.
- 1:24:07Speaker 5: That you wonder?
- 1:24:08Speaker 3: Was like, you didn't conquer your trial, No.
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: Not you.
- 1:24:16Speaker 3: Alice disposed of your trial, but you didn't conquer the trial,
- 1:24:19Speaker 3: you didn't.
- 1:24:20Speaker 5: That's kind of a scape rooms if you think about it,
- 1:24:22Speaker 5: that somebody still died and yet the door still the
- 1:24:24Speaker 5: door of the escape room store, the door were still open.
- 1:24:27Speaker 3: Right now. That's not to say. Now now, that's not
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: to say, because she said it before, how many of
- 1:24:34Speaker 3: your coven made it the last time at the end
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: of the road And she said only two.
- 1:24:38Speaker 5: Hm.
- 1:24:38Speaker 3: So that's not to say nobody's not going to die
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: along the way. That ain't the issue. The issue is
- 1:24:43Speaker 3: you had you had a trial, but I'm the one
- 1:24:47Speaker 3: that got rid of your fear. So why I die?
- 1:24:52Speaker 3: Did we pass the test?
- 1:24:54Speaker 5: How does?
- 1:24:55Speaker 3: How does that is?
- 1:24:56Speaker 8: That?
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: Is that a loophole?
- 1:25:00Speaker 5: That's that's the maas you think.
- 1:25:01Speaker 3: That's what makes me think the fact of just her
- 1:25:04Speaker 3: dipping rios.
- 1:25:08Speaker 7: Literally just just not come up. She didn't we left
- 1:25:11Speaker 7: with the corpse. That's just we'll figure out what she's
- 1:25:14Speaker 7: doing back.
- 1:25:14Speaker 6: There, right, I mean, she still got magic, right, she
- 1:25:19Speaker 6: could technically bring her back.
- 1:25:22Speaker 4: That's what I didn't come out with the body mm
- 1:25:26Speaker 4: hmmm mm hmm.
- 1:25:28Speaker 9: I do permanent though, just raised the sticks for me.
- 1:25:33Speaker 5: Hm hmm.
- 1:25:34Speaker 7: But they they they said they wanted just to punish Agaba,
- 1:25:38Speaker 7: which I guess getting a little by your mom and
- 1:25:40Speaker 7: your undead child is enough. They just they needed they
- 1:25:44Speaker 7: needed the dead baby for the finisher from the top rope.
- 1:25:46Speaker 3: It wasn't a lie.
- 1:25:49Speaker 5: I mean, the dead baby can't give you max pain
- 1:25:51Speaker 5: vibes just the whole prime In the background.
- 1:25:53Speaker 3: All you heard was a mamnna stop no.
- 1:25:56Speaker 7: But I think I think as she got into that
- 1:25:58Speaker 7: name publicly in front of every I think they just
- 1:26:01Speaker 7: wanted her to feel shame. Which we were dressed like
- 1:26:04Speaker 7: we all went to Camp Crystal Lake. I was expecting
- 1:26:06Speaker 7: like this goofy like I thought they were just gonna
- 1:26:09Speaker 7: like tire up and whipped cream pie of the face
- 1:26:11Speaker 7: or something like.
- 1:26:11Speaker 4: I didn't think we were going to go this far.
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: By the way, whoever is Amdo's hairstylist is must be
- 1:26:18Speaker 3: the same hairstyle as they had for Reva for Obi
- 1:26:22Speaker 3: Wan because her hairs hair was evaculate.
- 1:26:27Speaker 6: Aren't those those are wigs?
- 1:26:29Speaker 3: Baby, That's what I'm saying.
- 1:26:36Speaker 7: Also, La Pone just seeing the future now, like is
- 1:26:39Speaker 7: she that's so ravening this whole thing? Because the screaming
- 1:26:43Speaker 7: in the kitchen and then the screaming happening now and
- 1:26:46Speaker 7: her saying, I really didn't like this the first time
- 1:26:48Speaker 7: we did it. I know she said the medium thing
- 1:26:52Speaker 7: is up front, but I really think she messed around
- 1:26:54Speaker 7: outside her element and it's just open door.
- 1:26:56Speaker 4: She doesn't know how to close.
- 1:26:58Speaker 3: It's so I'm gonna go off, not I'm gonna go
- 1:27:02Speaker 3: off a little bit. Her being like she said, she
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: doesn't talk to the dead. That's that's the scam, she said,
- 1:27:09Speaker 3: that's the scam. Talking to the dead, her seeing the future,
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: that's a different thing. I've seen other shows that use
- 1:27:17Speaker 3: that same genre where the person doesn't really talk to
- 1:27:20Speaker 3: the dead or doesn't see the future, and that seems
- 1:27:24Speaker 3: to be like their secondary quote unquote mutation that kicks
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: in later on, because it's like if they can't talk,
- 1:27:32Speaker 3: if they can't talk to they can't see the future.
- 1:27:35Speaker 3: Somehow they're able to talk to the dead and they're
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: able to do more things later on after traumatic experiences,
- 1:27:44Speaker 3: and then vice versa is something else.
- 1:27:49Speaker 6: William name is.
- 1:28:01Speaker 3: Smarting.
- 1:28:01Speaker 5: Got that, dude, I got?
- 1:28:05Speaker 7: I did say Homegirls. The Drowning Man Dickle like did
- 1:28:09Speaker 7: look like a segregation era doctor like who.
- 1:28:13Speaker 5: Jennifer's night Man.
- 1:28:15Speaker 7: He very much looked like either he was an old
- 1:28:18Speaker 7: school doctor part of a barbershop quartet, one of the
- 1:28:20Speaker 7: two I know.
- 1:28:22Speaker 3: I believe he was a doctor who, as we know
- 1:28:27Speaker 3: from Black history, might have been that guy.
- 1:28:30Speaker 4: Yeah, or didn't like being shown up in his own field.
- 1:28:34Speaker 3: Once again as we know from black history.
- 1:28:38Speaker 10: I mean, I just feel like my question is valid
- 1:28:41Speaker 10: because the witch trials were what the sixteen hundreds. So
- 1:28:45Speaker 10: like when Agatha's mom appears, she looks at Gen's like,
- 1:28:48Speaker 10: and you brought your bedwinch weird.
- 1:28:53Speaker 3: We can always we can agree that we can honestly agree,
- 1:28:57Speaker 3: especially after this episode.
- 1:28:59Speaker 5: Aguthu's mom is not a good person, right.
- 1:29:09Speaker 3: Mom?
- 1:29:09Speaker 7: Really, I feel like I feel like, yeah, getting getting
- 1:29:14Speaker 7: the public shame. I feel like she just addressed her
- 1:29:17Speaker 7: her child publicly or from everybody. Good lord, everybody, everybody's
- 1:29:23Speaker 7: getting a kissy in the cup at the end of
- 1:29:25Speaker 7: the show. Yeah, I feel like she just faced the
- 1:29:31Speaker 7: the the unborn child in front of everybody. That would
- 1:29:33Speaker 7: have been humiliation enough because she can never drop her
- 1:29:35Speaker 7: guard around people. But since you wanted to break the rules,
- 1:29:38Speaker 7: it's like, now you get the kid and your mom,
- 1:29:40Speaker 7: which at this point is like I feel like This
- 1:29:42Speaker 7: is punishment enough.
- 1:29:43Speaker 4: You're getting outed like a child in front of everybody, right.
- 1:29:46Speaker 3: Not only that her saying now you and people wonder
- 1:29:48Speaker 3: why I don't have female friends. It says a lot.
- 1:29:51Speaker 3: It's not just that's her being sarcastic, like a little
- 1:29:55Speaker 3: bit of truth. I've been before, like, yeah, I've been
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: purned before, I've had a real I have a reason
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: not to trust. Look what I've had to deal with
- 1:30:06Speaker 3: your mama come out nowhere and saying I should I
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: should have stopped you before you came out.
- 1:30:11Speaker 6: Damn should cross my legs?
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: Is that this is what this is what we're saying now.
- 1:30:21Speaker 4: I mean the pone friend who was like, this is
- 1:30:24Speaker 4: not gonna go well for you. You shouldn't have kept it.
- 1:30:26Speaker 5: M M. So it makes it makes you wonder.
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: And this is the other theory that I'm working still
- 1:30:33Speaker 3: working with, and I'm sticking to the gun for this
- 1:30:35Speaker 3: because they've already announced it. They've already announced that they're
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: doing a spinoff. It's not a second season, they're doing
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: another spin off. And I think this is definitely Agatha's
- 1:30:47Speaker 3: redemption story. This isn't Agatha evil, oh, this is a
- 1:30:55Speaker 3: redemption story for her.
- 1:30:57Speaker 5: Yeah, because something that's something worse her.
- 1:31:04Speaker 9: She's gonna be redempted. She's gonna be an hero. Yeah
- 1:31:07Speaker 9: to anti Harra student thing.
- 1:31:10Speaker 3: She's gonna be the one who I get what you're saying. Yes,
- 1:31:17Speaker 3: she's the anti hero because of her path to where
- 1:31:20Speaker 3: she is now. But it's a story of redemption because
- 1:31:24Speaker 3: especially after this episode, now you kind of you wonder
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: you see more now, like this is why the way
- 1:31:30Speaker 3: she is mm hmm. Your mother was a boustard.
- 1:31:35Speaker 5: Your mom, your mom was worse than you.
- 1:31:38Speaker 3: So so imagine at the age that she's in a
- 1:31:41Speaker 3: full adult. Now, imagine that the turmoil she dealt with
- 1:31:46Speaker 3: all the way up until that point. So now her
- 1:31:50Speaker 3: getting you know, getting thrown at the stake and and
- 1:31:53Speaker 3: and all this other stuff, and your mother probably just
- 1:31:56Speaker 3: framed you.
- 1:31:58Speaker 5: But also at the same time, let's not forget she
- 1:32:01Speaker 5: did give up her child for the dark hole.
- 1:32:05Speaker 4: I wonder if.
- 1:32:06Speaker 7: That's what got her put at the stake in the
- 1:32:09Speaker 7: first place, because you know, your parents can be completely
- 1:32:12Speaker 7: different people when it comes to grandchildren.
- 1:32:15Speaker 5: The fact that.
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: She didn't give her a choice, she probably you obviously
- 1:32:21Speaker 3: see the fact that she regrets doing that. So it's her,
- 1:32:25Speaker 3: and this is me thinking, is her going after the
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: dark hold her way of trying to stop her mother,
- 1:32:32Speaker 3: and she had to do that and her mother was
- 1:32:35Speaker 3: probably trying to groom her child.
- 1:32:38Speaker 9: M hmmm.
- 1:32:41Speaker 5: Lord they kind of messed me up though, because I
- 1:32:42Speaker 5: thought her mom would be one of the Salem Seven
- 1:32:44Speaker 5: and turned out that she wasn't in part.
- 1:32:48Speaker 3: That part so it becomes a whole the chicken and
- 1:32:54Speaker 3: egg thing. Who did this first? Obviously Mama hearkuments started this.
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 1:33:03Speaker 3: That's that's my thing, that's my theory.
- 1:33:05Speaker 5: That's my still try still trying to get her from
- 1:33:07Speaker 5: the grave.
- 1:33:08Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 1:33:10Speaker 5: Can I can I ask some b T level drama
- 1:33:13Speaker 5: not to be is Agatha like that's her child, because
- 1:33:22Speaker 5: that's a quick way to be like, oh no, this
- 1:33:26Speaker 5: is just evil inside me. I didn't lay down with
- 1:33:29Speaker 5: no other man. That's crazy. That's this is just the
- 1:33:32Speaker 5: seed of the devil. That's what happened here.
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: I love.
- 1:33:38Speaker 5: Did you just compare Agatha to the woman and the omen?
- 1:33:42Speaker 3: Sure?
- 1:33:44Speaker 5: You basically compared her to the mother of people?
- 1:33:47Speaker 3: This I mean, I mean, it's not a bad theory
- 1:33:50Speaker 3: to run with. She didn't ask to be here.
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: You you did it.
- 1:33:55Speaker 3: That still makes your you did it? Damn my fault.
- 1:33:59Speaker 4: You just wow.
- 1:34:02Speaker 7: I mean you got just a little, a little skywalker
- 1:34:04Speaker 7: syndrome slipped up in there, that's all.
- 1:34:06Speaker 4: Mm hmmm mm hmmm.
- 1:34:08Speaker 5: Well maybe she had extra morning sickness with her.
- 1:34:13Speaker 4: I mean, if you're a witch, does it last longer
- 1:34:15Speaker 4: like instead of nine months? It's not you think?
- 1:34:17Speaker 5: So you know, don't a witch happens? Doesn't the witch
- 1:34:19Speaker 5: have a concoction for that kind of stuff?
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: I need you to stop.
- 1:34:27Speaker 4: No, I'm pretty sure that we're in prohibion that.
- 1:34:30Speaker 5: So you know that's that's moonshine.
- 1:34:34Speaker 6: Isn't it supposed to be castor oil or something? Anyway?
- 1:34:36Speaker 6: Can we move on?
- 1:34:39Speaker 5: Don't dip your tone, don't dip your tones to the
- 1:34:41Speaker 5: pool and runoff.
- 1:34:44Speaker 6: I don't like it.
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: It's so it's obviously that obviously Reo stays behind mysteriously
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: not going.
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: Up the ladder.
- 1:34:55Speaker 3: Right team, we didn't see it, and I'm we're only
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: what it is, Billy, because even even Joe Locke has
- 1:35:03Speaker 3: said it, it's been two years. I've had to keep
- 1:35:07Speaker 3: this secret. Yeah. Mm hmmm, I'm like, dude, commenable job.
- 1:35:14Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. You did better than tom alland
- 1:35:17Speaker 3: she kept that. He kept that secret, so he's already confirmed. Yes,
- 1:35:21Speaker 3: he's Billy Kaplan.
- 1:35:22Speaker 5: M hm.
- 1:35:23Speaker 3: He's confirmed it. And now now the secret is out
- 1:35:29Speaker 3: and we've got our wicked Yeah, crown and all.
- 1:35:34Speaker 6: M hmmm.
- 1:35:36Speaker 7: I'm not intimidated by but bring them, bring them fanes
- 1:35:40Speaker 7: back out the mud.
- 1:35:40Speaker 5: Next episode he's about on Halloween. That's an easy ass costume. Yeah.
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:35:50Speaker 3: Now his I think his story is, his story is
- 1:35:54Speaker 3: going to continue, and it's not just him getting his
- 1:35:56Speaker 3: mother back, it's getting his family.
- 1:35:59Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
- 1:36:00Speaker 3: He's not gonna want just his mother. He loved his family.
- 1:36:03Speaker 3: He's not gonna want just his mother.
- 1:36:05Speaker 6: M yes, Mayham.
- 1:36:09Speaker 5: Go ahead, man, what you got, no question? What's the
- 1:36:13Speaker 5: other brother's name? Tommy?
- 1:36:16Speaker 6: Yeah, Pickles, you.
- 1:36:23Speaker 4: Want right into that one, but good paramount right now
- 1:36:32Speaker 4: mm hmm.
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: Not laughing.
- 1:36:37Speaker 3: Answer the question. I mean he's always gone by. If
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: you want to go by, you know, Maximo, you want
- 1:36:45Speaker 3: to go I mean that's official.
- 1:36:47Speaker 5: My question was like, why is he Billy Kaplan like that?
- 1:36:51Speaker 3: Why? This is where it gets confusing. We're gonna go
- 1:36:55Speaker 3: in the comic book rop mm hmm. Strap in uh,
- 1:37:00Speaker 3: Wanta created these kids, and she thought she created them
- 1:37:03Speaker 3: out her pure hex magic. It turns out Mefisto steps
- 1:37:05Speaker 3: in and says, no, half a, you stole part of
- 1:37:07Speaker 3: my soul. Those are my people, that's mine giving back.
- 1:37:10Speaker 3: Turns out Mifisto and his nature actually lied. Those kids
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: were created out of Wanda's Hex's magic, and their spirits
- 1:37:20Speaker 3: slash souls whatever. Once dissipated, went to two other separate kids.
- 1:37:28Speaker 3: Once they came of age, Newton power kicks in. They
- 1:37:33Speaker 3: find out, Oh wait a minute, I am not said I.
- 1:37:36Speaker 5: Am so their souls went into two randoms.
- 1:37:41Speaker 10: Yeah, correct, pretty much Billy Kaplan and the other ones
- 1:37:44Speaker 10: just Tommy like Madonna got.
- 1:37:46Speaker 4: It tosally how Professor X came back in Days.
- 1:37:50Speaker 5: Of Future Past, he basically took O right, He basically
- 1:37:52Speaker 5: go over the mind of a vegetable.
- 1:37:55Speaker 3: Now I give you the bridged version to read that
- 1:37:58Speaker 3: shit out is a totally different storygetable. So I just
- 1:38:03Speaker 3: gave you.
- 1:38:05Speaker 7: Hm with the brew writing scene. Was that just was
- 1:38:09Speaker 7: that just an ET reference? Or like, are we just
- 1:38:11Speaker 7: going full Yeah?
- 1:38:14Speaker 3: Ask me what in the background, Yeah, let's just play
- 1:38:18Speaker 3: with it or whatever.
- 1:38:21Speaker 7: I love how I lived through all the witch racism,
- 1:38:27Speaker 7: and here I am just subjecting myself to it to survive.
- 1:38:30Speaker 5: It's actually, uh, Tommy's.
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: I know this name.
- 1:38:36Speaker 4: Shepherd?
- 1:38:37Speaker 5: Shepherd.
- 1:38:38Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was like, I'm signifying the name with
- 1:38:44Speaker 3: another fictional character the last time.
- 1:38:48Speaker 6: Why why Sometimes the intrusive thoughts don't have to win, Sir.
- 1:38:57Speaker 5: I'm going to him.
- 1:38:58Speaker 3: I'm going to send him the DC Schools.
- 1:39:01Speaker 5: Demon reyth.
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: Or the Break Break.
- 1:39:08Speaker 3: Uh yeah, the comic you right, maamaic the comic books are.
- 1:39:14Speaker 5: Their descriptions for a lot of that we do.
- 1:39:17Speaker 3: They can be very m hmm, very weird. It's very weird,
- 1:39:23Speaker 3: so to a strange place. Yeah. So when you see
- 1:39:27Speaker 3: a lot of these MCU characters, well Marvel characters come
- 1:39:30Speaker 3: to life on screen mm hmm, they have to give
- 1:39:35Speaker 3: them a little different narrative, and it just it makes sense.
- 1:39:39Speaker 3: It just makes sense the change the narrative. Look, let's
- 1:39:42Speaker 3: be honest. In the comics, there's like nine, maybe ten
- 1:39:48Speaker 3: smartest people in the Marvel universe and they have like
- 1:39:52Speaker 3: thirteen thousand degrees. It just makes sense to say, ah,
- 1:39:58Speaker 3: let's not do that. It's going to be too I'm
- 1:40:00Speaker 3: difficult to really make sense of all of that. You know,
- 1:40:03Speaker 3: it's gonna make sense for all trying to be created
- 1:40:06Speaker 3: by the guy who plays with AI, not the guy
- 1:40:08Speaker 3: who talks to insects. It just makes sense. M.
- 1:40:14Speaker 5: I mean, standpoint makes sense.
- 1:40:18Speaker 7: Now the boyfriend does end up being Hupling, that'll be
- 1:40:20Speaker 7: the real asshole out of the story.
- 1:40:23Speaker 5: Right, which I hope they don't do.
- 1:40:26Speaker 4: M What did you say?
- 1:40:32Speaker 3: Oh?
- 1:40:32Speaker 4: I said, that will just be a complete asshole if
- 1:40:35Speaker 4: they just make his boyfriend.
- 1:40:39Speaker 5: May have got.
- 1:40:43Speaker 7: We know, even though it is a term we have
- 1:40:45Speaker 7: used before, and people have used this nerd more all
- 1:40:49Speaker 7: the time.
- 1:40:49Speaker 4: He's about to fixate on it.
- 1:40:52Speaker 3: Nah n.
- 1:40:55Speaker 5: I want three examples right now, someone saying, as.
- 1:41:00Speaker 4: I do en up digging on the show where a
- 1:41:01Speaker 4: thousand lobo and.
- 1:41:05Speaker 5: There's a third one? Yeah, I had a third one
- 1:41:09Speaker 5: dead else else? Oh in Constantine there.
- 1:41:17Speaker 4: It was used a lot for Tony starts just coming
- 1:41:20Speaker 4: up with time travel for certain people.
- 1:41:22Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
- 1:41:25Speaker 3: He's gonna say, what you mean, pull it out your hasts,
- 1:41:28Speaker 3: that's what he means.
- 1:41:31Speaker 4: I went into my Caucasian Dictionary of terminology.
- 1:41:37Speaker 5: Why dot org ass pulled.
- 1:41:43Speaker 3: The fact that wait wait wait, the fact has the
- 1:41:47Speaker 3: camera off and literally announced it. He's like, not under
- 1:41:51Speaker 3: his breath.
- 1:41:52Speaker 5: It's like it's like the going to the Urban Dictionary
- 1:41:54Speaker 5: on a work on a work computer.
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: Why, it's like going to the pot looking for think
- 1:42:00Speaker 3: there's water gate salad, and we're all just like, I still.
- 1:42:02Speaker 5: Don't even know that is uh water gate salad connects
- 1:42:11Speaker 5: the reason he's doing his homework.
- 1:42:13Speaker 7: So we confirmed that her powers are really involuntary and
- 1:42:16Speaker 7: like a knee jerk reaction.
- 1:42:18Speaker 3: Now, yes, she said it at the steak, but it
- 1:42:23Speaker 3: was more when she was at the steak. It was
- 1:42:25Speaker 3: more of a trick. Yeah, you know she said she
- 1:42:31Speaker 3: even said it earlier, and she said it earlier in
- 1:42:33Speaker 3: the series that you know, I can't take it, you
- 1:42:36Speaker 3: have to give.
- 1:42:36Speaker 2: It to me.
- 1:42:39Speaker 5: Hence wall Girl hens wall Girl tried to free her.
- 1:42:41Speaker 7: She was like ah, But then when she she genuinely
- 1:42:45Speaker 7: seemed paniced, like she didn't want to do that to
- 1:42:48Speaker 7: her at the end, and when she was saying she
- 1:42:49Speaker 7: couldn't control it, I'm just like, has that always been
- 1:42:52Speaker 7: the case. It's just automatic and you can't stop it. Also,
- 1:42:56Speaker 7: it's like a thousand objects in here. None of y'all
- 1:42:58Speaker 7: thought to throw a book, tackle nothing, we just gonna
- 1:43:00Speaker 7: let this ship happen.
- 1:43:02Speaker 5: That's the wild part.
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: We went to the.
- 1:43:05Speaker 7: Anime school of power of this episode. Everybody just sat
- 1:43:08Speaker 7: there and let the ship finishs.
- 1:43:12Speaker 3: Where where she can't control it, and that there's a
- 1:43:15Speaker 3: part of her that just likes it like it's damn
- 1:43:18Speaker 3: near you Ford for her.
- 1:43:20Speaker 4: This is the face of someone who just acquired new
- 1:43:22Speaker 4: knowledge that's.
- 1:43:24Speaker 6: Using it for evil.
- 1:43:31Speaker 3: Please don't test that theory, Please don't. We're still in
- 1:43:34Speaker 3: mid air like a human that just that just got out.
- 1:43:40Speaker 3: Just sir, get the power time to marinate, like what
- 1:43:45Speaker 3: happens when you don't stretch before spots.
- 1:43:51Speaker 10: Jesus wows, what's her name as Nord, that's how she
- 1:43:58Speaker 10: ended up with Agatha.
- 1:44:00Speaker 5: Yeah, that wasn't perfect time.
- 1:44:04Speaker 9: That wast.
- 1:44:08Speaker 3: Never feels right, never feels of course.
- 1:44:13Speaker 7: I feel like when she was genuinely somewhat remorseful for
- 1:44:17Speaker 7: what she did and the entire coven turned on her.
- 1:44:19Speaker 7: Every time she tries to put like the character back on,
- 1:44:23Speaker 7: I just buy it less and less each episode.
- 1:44:25Speaker 5: So I feel like, you gotta think.
- 1:44:27Speaker 3: You gotta think if just from what we've seen from
- 1:44:30Speaker 3: her mother, you gotta think if she's dealt with that
- 1:44:33Speaker 3: all her life. So she's looking at so she was
- 1:44:37Speaker 3: looking at the Covin like I don't trust her, and
- 1:44:41Speaker 3: I damn sure don't trust.
- 1:44:42Speaker 5: None of y'all.
- 1:44:45Speaker 3: So now I have to be I have to be
- 1:44:47Speaker 3: this way.
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: M hmm.
- 1:44:50Speaker 4: That's my thing. It's gonna be hard for people. You
- 1:44:52Speaker 4: can be that way, but it's hard to be that
- 1:44:53Speaker 4: way with a bunch of people who can look at
- 1:44:55Speaker 4: you like you bullshit not at all.
- 1:44:57Speaker 3: Think about it.
- 1:44:59Speaker 4: We've seen the you under every trial.
- 1:45:01Speaker 3: Girl.
- 1:45:01Speaker 4: We know what you look like under there.
- 1:45:03Speaker 5: Have we? Mmm?
- 1:45:05Speaker 3: Because look how she acts with team, like when he
- 1:45:07Speaker 3: when he almost died, when she had her vision of
- 1:45:11Speaker 3: the other baby crying in the bassinet, when she hears
- 1:45:14Speaker 3: her son call her, when she hears her son's name
- 1:45:17Speaker 3: and here's his voice. That's the real Agatha, right and
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: then Agatha we've been getting. The Agatha we've been getting
- 1:45:24Speaker 3: is the one. It's just like, I'm guarded right now.
- 1:45:27Speaker 3: I have to be guarded right now. I've been stabbed
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: in the back too many times. I've been treating ship
- 1:45:33Speaker 3: for too long. I have to be this way to
- 1:45:36Speaker 3: protect myself. And it's a it's a toxic trait, but
- 1:45:41Speaker 3: it is what it is.
- 1:45:43Speaker 7: We've seen you unguarded so many times. We can clearly
- 1:45:46Speaker 7: see what the faux wall, the fake Titan walls are
- 1:45:48Speaker 7: back up.
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: Like, we just just.
- 1:45:51Speaker 7: It's gonna be weird seeing her try to keep this
- 1:45:53Speaker 7: persona with a bunch of people that know who you
- 1:45:54Speaker 7: really are deep down. Then when you snapped a team,
- 1:45:57Speaker 7: We're just like, you're just mad, that's not your kid
- 1:45:59Speaker 7: knocking off.
- 1:46:00Speaker 3: Nobody's buying this also still a treatym as such, because
- 1:46:05Speaker 3: technically he probably would have been around the same age.
- 1:46:11Speaker 7: Yeah, but the snap of you're just like your mother,
- 1:46:13Speaker 7: I'm like, where did this reveal information come from?
- 1:46:15Speaker 4: We just we just did a hard segue.
- 1:46:17Speaker 1: Just now.
- 1:46:18Speaker 3: She's been she's been watching it. She's been watching it.
- 1:46:21Speaker 3: She's been watching She had she had her reservations.
- 1:46:26Speaker 5: Long before.
- 1:46:26Speaker 3: She just wasn't sure, real made it a little she
- 1:46:30Speaker 3: just real put a little bit more source behind it,
- 1:46:35Speaker 3: like that's not your kid, she kept she she she
- 1:46:38Speaker 3: took some salt and just sat there and took that
- 1:46:40Speaker 3: wound and said, you know that's not your kid.
- 1:46:41Speaker 5: Right, sprinkle sprinkle, sprinkle sprinkle right.
- 1:46:46Speaker 4: What was what was her bipolar ass up to this
- 1:46:48Speaker 4: whole episode, like.
- 1:46:49Speaker 3: She did not what it like, she would rather whatever
- 1:46:56Speaker 3: history they have. It's more it's like that lover's core
- 1:46:59Speaker 3: type think. But she knows that about her mother. She
- 1:47:05Speaker 3: was like, I know what I can do. I know
- 1:47:08Speaker 3: what I'm supposed to do. I know what I've been
- 1:47:09Speaker 3: involved with. But that half of there, right, I know
- 1:47:15Speaker 3: you ain't no good.
- 1:47:17Speaker 5: And yet disappeared.
- 1:47:20Speaker 6: Yet turn off your keyboard, turn off your key your hands,
- 1:47:26Speaker 6: put your hands on your shoulder, on your shoulder. I
- 1:47:30Speaker 6: need you to put your hands on your shoulder, sir lady.
- 1:47:37Speaker 5: Yeah, Jesus Christ. Watch. Oh yeah, survived surviving the Diddler.
- 1:47:51Speaker 1: Oh I've never heard that.
- 1:47:53Speaker 9: I have.
- 1:47:55Speaker 1: Simler.
- 1:47:55Speaker 9: Oh that's that's great.
- 1:47:57Speaker 3: Oh my god, this shutter ship. This ship is sputtering.
- 1:48:02Speaker 3: At this point, I was like, it's time to sign
- 1:48:04Speaker 3: off anyway.
- 1:48:05Speaker 5: So what happened?
- 1:48:08Speaker 9: Wrap up protocol, initiating captain.
- 1:48:15Speaker 5: Law.
- 1:48:20Speaker 6: Sometimes I feel like I'm the responsible person on this ship.
- 1:48:23Speaker 6: But you know, and I don't want I don't want it.
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- 1:48:51Speaker 6: from the comics to give them a little bit more life,
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- 1:50:12Speaker 11: next week, I'll go back to one game per day.
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- 1:51:28Speaker 3: Like they're for me there. I'm like, there is no Mayhem,
- 1:51:36Speaker 3: it's me.
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- 1:51:39Speaker 10: That's m A y e h media where it's off movies,
- 1:51:43Speaker 10: comments and TV shows and just you know, utter foolishness
- 1:51:46Speaker 10: because I feel like it second time on dot org,
- 1:51:51Speaker 10: where lovely people you see on the screen contribute to UH,
- 1:51:55Speaker 10: the same foolishness you hear, but like in word form,
- 1:51:58Speaker 10: so words are fun reading good.
- 1:52:00Speaker 5: Lane is a teacher. She knows stuff I'm working on.
- 1:52:08Speaker 5: I guess I can say this now.
- 1:52:09Speaker 10: I will be working with Jason Michael Primrose on his
- 1:52:16Speaker 10: upcoming situ relationship on UH story Code, So be you
- 1:52:22Speaker 10: on the lookout for my work the arrival on the
- 1:52:26Speaker 10: story code.
- 1:52:27Speaker 5: And and that's enough of talking about me. It's awkward.
- 1:52:34Speaker 10: That's you can't tell about how I am. So please
- 1:52:39Speaker 10: take him take a pt oh, take a deep breath,
- 1:52:42Speaker 10: let that ship go half the day you deserve everyone,
- 1:52:48Speaker 10: and sign over.
- 1:52:51Speaker 5: Yeah, so Delobe decided he wanted to come up here
- 1:52:54Speaker 5: today because your sister's downstairs and you still have another list.
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- 1:53:22Speaker 3: same time, guys, I always pot out as far as
- 1:53:25Speaker 3: TV just because he has three three videos about cons
- 1:53:29Speaker 3: because consoles going around four. Oh it's four now, okay,
- 1:53:33Speaker 3: my bad, there's four of you.
- 1:53:34Speaker 7: With With Karen's advisement, I've posted the entire thing, but
- 1:53:38Speaker 7: I also top took each part in Nada it's own segment.
- 1:53:41Speaker 4: So once a month, just a little reminder that does
- 1:53:43Speaker 4: act right.
- 1:53:44Speaker 3: For the record, if you've got to be reminded once
- 1:53:47Speaker 3: a month to wash your ass, then that's saying a lot.
- 1:53:51Speaker 3: But the rules, but the rules still do apply again cosplays.
- 1:53:56Speaker 3: Cosplay is not consent. Please treat people like human beings.
- 1:53:59Speaker 3: It's not that freaking. At the same time, cosplays for everybody.
- 1:54:02Speaker 3: The little rule that we have is don't do blackface.
- 1:54:04Speaker 3: Don't want your ASKI to the con don't do black face.
- 1:54:06Speaker 3: That's simple and just like we talked about, bringing soap
- 1:54:10Speaker 3: and deodorant at cons is helpful.
- 1:54:12Speaker 5: But again it shouldn't be something that we tell people
- 1:54:15Speaker 5: as brow and freaking adults. Clean yourselves, clean clothes, because
- 1:54:19Speaker 5: these cons are very close minded. You do not want
- 1:54:21Speaker 5: your fund to come in before you do. And native
- 1:54:23Speaker 5: the odorant doesn't work. And again the number one, the
- 1:54:26Speaker 5: number three rules I have for myself as I have
- 1:54:28Speaker 5: for everybody else guys in the world that is cold.
- 1:54:30Speaker 4: Rule, be nice, be kind, share your fandoms, don't be
- 1:54:34Speaker 4: a dick, and we'll all be cool.
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