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The Magic of the Gene Keys with Whitney Coupland · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Mystic Nerd Squad Podcast.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: I am your host, Kelly Meyerson.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_02: My friends, you've heard me say this before.
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  SPEAKER_02: You'll hear me say it again.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am so excited about this episode of the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: My guest today is Whitley Whitney.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, look, I'm so excited I can't get my words out.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: My guest today is Whitney Copeland, and she is a specialist in human design and the gene keys.
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  SPEAKER_02: You see why I'm so excited.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you spent any time in my circle, you know how crazy I am about human design.
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  SPEAKER_02: She is a human design and gene keys guide for entrepreneurs.
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  SPEAKER_02: She combines her 10 years of experience in sales and marketing for startups with her coaching background to help business owners go after their deepest desires and attract their ideal clients.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whitney believes that an aligned business is a magnetic business.
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  SPEAKER_02: She is obsessed with extracting insights from her clients' human design and gene keys charts as a way to help them bring their dream business to life.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, Whitney.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: Hi, thank you for having me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm so delighted, as you can tell, jumping over my words with excitement and enthusiasm.
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  SPEAKER_02: Unsurprising for a 1-3 manifesting generator with emotional authority.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this really lights me up.
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  SPEAKER_02: Talking about human design, first of all, but I first got the human design bug.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then a couple years into my human design journey, somebody mentioned the gene keys.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was coming home on a flight from California back to New Jersey.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it was a pretty lengthy flight.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I downloaded the first sequence to learn about the gene keys.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I still have like on my notes app, like my furious note-taking for all of like my conscious son and everything else.
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  SPEAKER_02: So how did you get into human design and when did gene keys become more of a focus for you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so my very first business course that I ever enrolled in, I think I was thinking about this today.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it was 2019.
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  SPEAKER_00: I joined this program as a health coach to learn messaging and how to attract my own ideal clients.
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  SPEAKER_00: And within that course, they had a Facebook group where you could post beta offers for your people to try out in exchange for testimonials.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this woman had posted that she was a human design guide.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she was offering free readings in exchange for a testimonial.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, human design?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I had ever heard of that before, but just the two words together intrigued me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I signed up for one of these readings and I just soaked it all in.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think she actually divided it into two separate hours because there was just so much information coming at me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I loved it, just as most people love learning about themselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I noticed that although this information was interesting, I wasn't given a way to apply it to my life practically.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I put the chart away for a long period of time and kind of didn't think too much about it again until it started surfacing in the podcast that I was listening to.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, I need to revisit this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I reached out to that woman again because I had misplaced our recording of our conversation.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: And she was like, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll do another reading for you, a refresher.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had another reading with her, which was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I continued listening to these podcasts.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then one day I heard the word gene keys.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't even know what the word was, but I rewound the podcast like two or three times, I remember, trying to catch, like, what is this woman saying?
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  SPEAKER_00: What is this word?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, gene keys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I immediately look it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: I realize it's another system that involves charts.
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  SPEAKER_00: And of course, I'm hooked immediately.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I put in my information, I see what all of this is, and I'm like, I'm home.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm here.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of dove into that and very soon realized that I loved it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to say more than human design because they're so complementary, but there's just something about the jean keys that resonates so deeply with me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love what you just said.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm home.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm here.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is for me.
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  SPEAKER_02: That is such like a sign.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I I completely understand where you're coming from.
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  SPEAKER_02: The first time I saw it, I I think I might have had a similar experience where I heard gene keys and I was like, what did it ginkies?
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  SPEAKER_02: I I can't figure out what these words are.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you're like, gene?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like genetics, or yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I totally relate to that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think what I loved so much about it at first was I had been such a geek for my human design.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like you said, everybody loves to find out more about themselves and just delving deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then when there was like another way to pivot and some new rabbit holes with the gene keys, I was all in.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I had heard, you know, a couple people who were talking about it who were so much more versed in it at that point than I was, and talking about being able to find different uh spots in your gene keys for like your culture, like how you how you operate, you know, your life's work, those kinds of things.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that I thought put it in more of a practical sense, like you said, than like looking at your your on the right angle cross of planning, like looking at that and kind of like, what the heck does that mean?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm a I'm a cross of planning.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_02: What does that mean?
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  SPEAKER_02: Whereas like the idea of looking at something and and that having that one piece.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but before we get too much into that, what are the gene keys and why is it different than human design?
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  SPEAKER_02: What is it about the way that it's laid out and organized?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we'll start with human design because that's what more people are familiar with.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that system helps you understand how you operate.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, for example, decision making.
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  SPEAKER_00: How am I designed to make decisions?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or with your profile, how am I designed to communicate and bring my expertise into the world?
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  SPEAKER_00: What comes naturally to me?
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  SPEAKER_00: Where the gene keys, very similar to human design, based on your birth time, you have this chart.
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  SPEAKER_00: It looks different than the human design chart, but there's actually a lot of overlap because they're both based in astrology and they both take into account the i ching.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you'll see a lot of themes overlap.
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  SPEAKER_00: The gene keys takes what you learn in human design and it gives it this contemplative nature, this more feminine side, where you can start to put together all of your life experiences, all of your stories, all of the things that you've been through and start to make sense of it to understand who you are, why you're in the place you are in your life right now, and how you can leverage your strengths and your weaknesses to move forward in the direction that you want to go.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that so much because how many of us get sort of stuck in the analysis space of let me learn more about myself.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then practically, what do I do with this information?
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  SPEAKER_02: How do I make my life better, more aligned, easier, more in flow?
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  SPEAKER_02: And it sounds like the gene keys offer a lot of that for people, particularly entrepreneurs.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they do.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so the most recent version of the gene keys chart, I think it now has 14 spheres on it.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: It used to have 11, but there's something called the star pearl that has been added.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's a whole nother rabbit hole.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm actually like restraining myself and my manifesting generator energy right now to not dive into that and get completely carried away with it.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, okay, Whitney, back on track.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're still focusing on the pearl, mainly with entrepreneurs.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: But the nice thing about the gene keys is that these 11 spheres that show up on the original chart, they all contain something called a shadow, a gift, and a city.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your shadow is kind of your default way of being.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the patterns that you fall into when you catch yourself behaving in a way that you don't want to behave and when things aren't going the way you want them to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that can be shifted into your gift energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: The beauty is that the gift is contained within the shadow.
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  SPEAKER_00: So whenever something isn't going well for you, no worries, because the gift actually lies within that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's in conversations with my clients that we can find what that beauty is, where that lies for them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Beyond that, if you find that you're in that place of self-actualization and you are living in your gift energy, you're this conscious being most of the time walking through life, you can actually extend into your acidic energy, which is like your highest potential.
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  SPEAKER_00: And of course, even people who find themselves getting glimpses of that in their daily life, because it's not something that most humans can sustain, you will inevitably find yourself back in the shadow state.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you know how the gene keys are laid out and which sphere relates to which types of problems going on in your life, you can quickly identify the shadow that you're in.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'll give you an example because I have been through a few different niches in my business.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I was a health coach, everything was very clear to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I helped people with autoimmune conditions improve their symptoms using food.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was very easy to talk about and very scientifically based.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had no problem showing up online and talking about all of this with this authority.
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  SPEAKER_00: Moving into the work that I'm in now, things are a little more hairy.
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  SPEAKER_00: The language is more complex.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't know where people are on their spiritual or personal development journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's an important message that I want to relay, but I want to make sure that people understand it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I find myself on the hamster wheel of constantly rethinking my positioning and the angle that I'm coming from so that it is relatable and resonant for people.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I recently had this reflected back to me in a conversation where somebody, it was a coach who didn't make it as a coach.
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  SPEAKER_00: She ended up going in another direction because she had been in the industry for four years and wasn't able to make ends meet.
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  SPEAKER_00: And of course, it sends anybody in that kind of position to think about their own life.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of a fragile, if you've been in the coaching industry for a while, you'll know it's kind of a fragile topic for people when things aren't going in the direction that they want to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so this woman was in front of me, and I was like, I'm having some kind of reaction to what she's saying right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what's going on for me?
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  SPEAKER_00: And in the Gene Keys, the sphere that directly opposes your life's work is called your evolution.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I went to look at my evolution sphere and I listened to the audio by Richard Rudd, and everything he said was exactly what was going on for me.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: And this is how I use the gene keys chart for myself and for my clients.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's almost like going to the doctor and telling them all of your symptoms.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the doctor comes up with some kind of prescription or hopefully some more natural protocol for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly what I do with the gene keys.
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  SPEAKER_00: I look to the sphere that I think is, you know, most relatable to that person in the moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we go and look at the shadow energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And nine times out of 10, it's like, bam, that's what's going on for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now let's read about the gift energy and see where is that gap and how can you start to shift toward that in a practical way.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think that's so cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, I think Richard Rudd is amazing.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the course that I mentioned earlier, I I purchased the course that he offers.
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  SPEAKER_02: There is such a wealth of information about the gene keys and about each gate, which, if you're familiar with human design, each gate.
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  SPEAKER_02: I felt like I started looking at uh gate nine, which I believe is my conscious son.
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  SPEAKER_02: I could study that for the rest of my life and still feel like there's something to learn from that because it's just such a clear and present um energy in my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: I find that every time I go back to read or listen to something from the Gene Geys, I hear it in a new way.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: I hear something different, something that relates to exactly what's going on for me in that moment.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: So do you have another hypothetical or an experience somebody's had?
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just interested to hear that shift from looking at a particular uh sphere, jumping into the shadow, knowing that's where somebody is experiencing it, and what the the juxtaposition of that shadow and that gift, and what happens in that leap from one to the next.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think in relation to entrepreneurship, a big one is commitment.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: And in the jinke's, when we talk about commitment, anything other than wholehearted, 100% commitment is considered half-heartedness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I had a client who was a coach, and she was in a very similar position to what I'm experiencing throughout my journey, constantly rethinking the messaging and the person that you're speaking to.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a very common thing in this industry.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: And it does have to shift and change as the times shift and change, and people are encountering different things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, how do you remain relevant?
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  SPEAKER_00: So she had been on the hamster wheel for years, not honing in on a niche and not actually ever going out there and creating something.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: And we would circle around this in our sessions.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the gene key that came up for her was about not worrying about the outcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the true artist, the true creator goes after what they want to create, and they don't worry about the outcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is difficult because in this world, you need to make money to live.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a whole nother topic of conversation where you may need to make money in a more practical way while you build your business.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just the reality of it.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: But this person in particular, session after session, I would remind her you're here to follow this dream that's on your heart, this creative passion that you have.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: And she revealed that she wanted to be a writer.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was the resistance toward these decisions in her coaching business was that there was this other dream on her heart that she really wanted to pursue, but she didn't believe it would be able to support her financially.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: So at the end of our coaching container, she took some space.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: And a few months later, she messaged me saying, I haven't told too many people about this, but I started this Instagram account and she sent me the handle and I clicked on it.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: And it was all some of her own writing and quotes from other authors.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: And this thing had taken off like crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: She was at thousands of Instagram subscribers already.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think she's approaching 100,000 subscribers now, and she's weaved her own writing into this.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not sure what she's doing with the coaching at this point in time, but I know that is still a dream on her heart as well.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe I remember her saying maybe she would start working with authors and writers and kind of help them follow their hearts and go after the dream that they really want to pursue.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: And she did that project wholeheartedly.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: And that led to her success.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: So it's interesting, right?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's just everybody has their own story, and the genkies don't make sense without your story.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: They're just words, they're just language.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: But once you can put two and two together between what's been going on in your own experience, it can be very eye-opening and insightful.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when you work with people, do you help them go through one of the sequences?
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  SPEAKER_02: How do you get them to figure out where are we starting on this journey?
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  SPEAKER_02: Because I know when I printed out my chart, you could look at the whole thing with all the spheres.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: I have to go back and check if I've got 11 or 14 on there.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: But then there were all the lines and the pathways between what connected with what and what those meetings were.
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  SPEAKER_02: So do you help people start there?
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  SPEAKER_02: What does the process look like?
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  SPEAKER_00: So how Richard Rudd explains it and suggests you do it is to start with the activation sequence, which is your zone of genius.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's your life's work, what you are born to do, what you're naturally talented at, your evolution, which is the thing that provides that resistance.
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  SPEAKER_00: But ultimately, it's there to give you the lessons so that you become an embodiment of wisdom.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you're not just doing your life's work from book smarts or something that you learn from somebody else.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're actually doing your life's work because you've been through something, you've experienced something.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that's why it's there.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's why there's that friction.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if in the gift energy, it can actually drive you to do your life's work.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: But in your shadow energy, it can hold you back from doing it.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: And then you have your radiance.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: So as you learn through your life experience and through your challenges, and you overcome them, you become radiant and magnetic because people now relate with you, they resonate with you.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: And the fourth sphere is called your purpose.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: And your purpose is not something that you have to do or be, it's something that opens up as you step into your life's work and show up authentically as you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's the first piece.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's like the clarity and direction of what you're doing in your work or in your business.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: And once you have that piece in place, my favorite place to go from there is the Pearl, the Pearl sequence.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Which is about your brand, like your personal brand.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: How do you show up and relay who you are and what you're all about to the world?
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: And your culture, how do you bring your message out into the world and attract allies that can help you move your mission forward?
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: And that's where things like your marketing approach would come in.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then you have your vocation.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: And this is the driver of everything that you're doing.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's also known as your core wound.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's something that rattles you to your core that you can't help but go out into the world to try and resolve in some way, shape, or form.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then at the very heart of that is the pearl.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like the fruit of your labor.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's what you get to do because you got to know yourself on a deep level.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: You, I don't like the word push-through challenges, but you you moved through them, you learned from them so that you could do precisely what you came here to do.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: And that in itself is a reward.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't help but pull up my sequences to see and to count.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have I have the original 11.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: Now I definitely need to go get the 14.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: So I love all of those pieces you were talking about with the Pearl sequence.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: So my pearl is eight.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm, I don't know if you know all of these like off the top of your head.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: So what I could do is I could look at that eight, and you you called it like the fruit of your labor, and look at the shadow and the gift, uh, and the Cidic state, you know, to kind of know that's that's like the the far off aim that I might have.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I could kind of figure out what work happens in that space.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: And in the realm of the Pearl, it's all about simplicity.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's what the Pearl's essence is.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: So it's how can I show up, do my life's work, create a brand, bring it out into the world because it is my mission and my vision.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: How can I do it in a way that feels natural to me, is not overcomplicated, and is not driven by ego.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm, I love that.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I just had to look really quickly to see what the gate eight is.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: So it's contribution.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_02: Which, you know, without reading into it any deeper than that, to me, contribution is such a a core and important piece.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how am I contributing to the world at large, to my family, to work teams, to podcast guests?
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm always trying to have something to contribute and support and bring other people forward.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Mine is innovation.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's about helping people get in touch with that creativity and see their projects through to completion so that they can bring their inherent genius into the world.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_02: And it makes me think so, if if mine is contribution, and I feel like the vehicle for that is my voice and helping people with their voices so that they can contribute.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: Does that make sense?
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_02: Is that kind of the way like the fruit of my labor is my voice out there, other people's voices out there, raising humanity with our voices?
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's your fulfillment.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: And through that fulfillment, you're also bringing in other benefits, better health, better relationships, financial stability.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: And all of that is the fruit of your labor.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: So it's called the prosperity sequence.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: But prosperity is not just about dollar value, it's about the big picture, like the whole wheel of life, and just living the life that you want to live, supported by the work that you want to do.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm, I love that so much.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's that harmony, right?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_02: Between there's no point in putting all of the effort, work, and time that we're doing if it doesn't mean that at the end of the day, we're living lives that are meaningful to us, that we have time and space freedom.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: And it's kind of one of those pieces of you know, deciding is this a time that I like really go full in and push, push, push myself to get things done?
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_02: Or do I recognize my own limitations before pushing past them into like, let's say, burnout and saying, you know what?
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: If I just give myself a longer timeline, because those rules are really only my rules, so that I can continue to enjoy the life and abundance I already have today.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like in the past it was like I someday abundance is mine, right?
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna be prosperous, things are gonna be great.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: Today I'm gonna work hard.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like I've fallen into this sense of actually today, I'm already free.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: I already have freedom, I already have so many choices.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: And if I step out of that sense of pressure, that scarcity mindset for human design lovers and you know, those who dwell in all of the rabbit holes of human design, I have an open head and ajna um and an undefined uh root center.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_02: So I have like that pressure to get things done.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's always there, it's always present.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like when I go to sleep, when I wake up, there's always pressure to be doing something.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: Kelly exists with to-do lists everywhere in her life.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_02: But sometimes I just kind of have to say yes, and I can also wait and rest.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_02: And waiting and resting and caring for myself and enjoying freedom and the beauty of life as it is today does not make me lazy or unproductive.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: It means that I'm feeding my energy system so that tomorrow I'm ultra productive and things eventually get done anyway.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_02: Why not celebrate and enjoy abundance today?
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's really the beauty of learning your design sooner than later.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because then you understand this from the beginning and you don't have to backtrack because there's kind of, well, there's so many different categories of where entrepreneurs are on their journey.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: But the people who become ultra successful and are floundering, they need to go back and learn this stuff and then re-jig things, which can be a big task when you have a big business.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: So if you learn it from the beginning and you can structure things in a way that really support you, then it might take a little bit longer to get to your ultimate outcome, but you're doing it in a much more sustainable and joyful way.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'm definitely a listener, just so you know, I'm in the messy middle.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: So this is definitely not something that I started with that came naturally and easily.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm even going to say that this is something that I'm learning presently this year in 2025.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: It started with kind of feeling like I didn't really want to start January gung-ho and like forcing myself into like new year, new you.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I heard a lot of people talking about their resistance to that as well.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Started to explore some of what's out there about like when is the true start to the year and all the different types of calendars.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I just kind of started this like, I'm gonna just get super curious about what it really means for it to go from 2024 to 2025, and that maybe I can just listen to what naturally feels right and wrong for me versus feeling the pressure of time and a calendar.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: Tuning into that authority.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: And maybe that's it too.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's also all of the work learning the human design pieces, understanding strategy, and authority.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'm really experimenting a little bit more with it and being willing to, I'm a one-three, to use that three and like just try.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: And if something doesn't work out, just okay, that didn't work.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_02: Let's try something else.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: Feeling less attached to things being a failure because it didn't work out, and more being that was a scientific experiment that I was running.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I'm gonna analyze the data and change some of those variables, and then I'm gonna run it again.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's an amazing approach because you're kind of taking yourself a step back from it.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're not so intertwined with it that your emotions are getting out of whack and then it's taking you off course.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: You're just giving enough space that you can look at it from almost an outsider's perspective to see what's really going on and then be able to course correct.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: And you were speaking earlier about really using the gene keys as a solution-based framework for the challenges we're experiencing and how helpful it can be to look at something in hindsight, you know, and I can look back at how I used to operate, you know, some of those challenges that many of us experience, perfectionism, imposter syndrome, and see where those things are coming from and how they can be part of our human design as well, sort of how we're designed, but also not having that self-awareness of how I operate and trying to match your operating system to those of other people and realizing like that doesn't work for me.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's not how I'm meant to operate.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: And just like one caveat is when you learn your design or your gene keys, they're meant to be there for you.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: They're not meant to work against you or to be used as an excuse of, well, I'm this way, so therefore I cannot do XYZ, or I do not have the energy for XYZ, which I catch people in a lot of times.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like we are all capable of whatever we want, and we can all do any type of life's work that we want.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter what's actually written in the charts.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: And Richard Rudd will say this himself: like, it's this system until you don't need the system because you're so sturdy within yourself that you just know and you just follow what's right for you.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: So, all systems aside, don't worry about it, don't take it too seriously, but it can give you the insight that you are looking for.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I was coaching, health coaching before doing this.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I've seen the difference in how quickly an issue or challenge can be pinpointed using these charts because it gives you the fuel, it gives you the angle to understand something.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like escalating that more quickly and helping you find a solution more quickly.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: But if it's causing you any kind of trouble, put it aside.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's my forte.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: I totally love that you said that.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's super important.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I think as with anything, when it's new to you, it's so easy to just attach to the things that kind of put you in those nice and easy categories.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, you're a manifesting generator, she's a projector, like that, you know, they are always going to be like this, they're always gonna be like that, you know, versus like you and I are both manifesting generators, and we have very different ways of operating in the world because that's only one small facet of our human design.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: And it's really as much as I understand, and it's not super, you know, I'm not super versed in the um inception of human design, but that the the categories of types kind of came in like as an added layer to make it easier for people to approach.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_02: But when you think about all of the different gates, the all of the different centers, they can be open, they can be undefined, they can be defined, they can be connected with partial connections or full connections.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: And there's just such a huge variety.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it really comes down to everybody is experiencing an individual expression.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_02: And exactly, yeah.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: So it doesn't really, it doesn't really matter so much, like you're saying, like you can learn it and then you can say, forget that.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: Let me just feel into what in my body feels authentic, true, comfortable.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, I say that it's a little tongue-in-cheek, is also about all of the work that you do to feel more like yourself in your own skin and shed so much of the conditioning that we've picked up a long time.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it's a great way to get more in alignment with who you are.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: I found because the more I read and the more I dove into the different pieces, I was like, oh, that makes so much sense.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_02: There was very little of it that I went, hmm, that doesn't make sense to me.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, that makes so much sense.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: That makes so much sense.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: I I am an emotional authority.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I have made many a decision at the top of my emotional wave and regretted it very deeply at the middle or the bottom of my emotional wave when I was like, I said I would do that, but I don't actually want to.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: So I love this all so much.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: So where does someone we begin?
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I know that you've been working super hard in flow, of course, um, on creating resources for people because the gene keys can be challenging to understand.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_02: So you've been working on a tremendous amount of resources.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: So where would you suggest someone start if they're hearing this conversation and thinking this is this is exactly the push that I've been looking for the universe to give me?
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, if you want to get a copy of your human design chart, in my words, it's myattractioncode.com.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: And you'll be able to download your free chart with the explanations of your energy type and your authority, kind of the basics.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then for deeper dives on the gene keys, you'll find that on my YouTube channel, which is my name, Whitney Copeland.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: And there's lots more coming down the pipeline with the gene keys, making it accessible and understandable and practical for entrepreneurs or people who are feeling an inner calling.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: They want to go out there, they want to do something different, but they're coming up against resistance.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of the direction that I'm heading in my business because I've seen this as a pretty big problem across the board where creatives and solopreneurs and just people with a dream on their heart, they get to a certain point and then they stop, or they stop and start, or they can't commit to a project and see it through to completion.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: And we can not only crystallize the direction that is right for you, we can also figure out why that stop and start pattern is happening and how you can break that cycle.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like there are so many of us who have needed that for a very long time.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm sure people who are listening and saying, oh my gosh, that is such an answered prayer because that feeling of I have all of the pieces, but I just can't hit that next level.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: What is going on for me?
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm really excited for people to check out your YouTube channel.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we also have a freebie that you're offering.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody, um, would you like to share a little bit about that?
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: So the chart that you download at myattractioncode.com, it's laid out like a business alignment blueprint.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: So it gives you insight into your human design, but in relation to your life's work and how you carry that out in the world.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_02: So it's a great starting point for anybody who's really interested.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to say that you are the real deal, Whitney.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_02: I love the work that you're doing.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you're also an example of somebody who's taking their human design using the gene keys and really, you know, honing in your skill set to support other people.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's really cool to see.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like I've got a whole bunch of inspiration now to go and print out my gene keys chart with the 14 spheres.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: I'm super curious about the star sphere, but maybe I'll start with just the 14 to make it simple for myself.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: But um I want to thank you so much.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: I want to encourage everybody to check out Whitney, go over to her YouTube channel.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_02: She's gonna continuously be uploading new information there.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_02: Such a great way to learn about this and then to be able to apply it.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, anything else that you have for the listener today?
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: Just to trust in your own intuition.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: If you have a calling on your heart, start taking steps toward it.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be drastic.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to quit your job or move across the country.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: You just need to start listening to get more clear on what that is.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_02: That is such beautiful advice.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_02: I will be taking that myself.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I really think that is such a huge piece, being able to tune into your own intuition and what it's telling you and really believe in your dreams that they they can come true.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_02: The example that you gave of somebody that you worked with who really decided to embrace her dream of being a writer and it was like catching on like wildfire because it was just she hit that piece of alignment.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you for that.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you everybody for listening, for being here.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, if you found value in this episode, please share it with a friend.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, go ahead, like, subscribe, give us a comment, tell us how much you loved it.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: And when you go and check out Whitney's channel on YouTube, be sure to leave her a comment that you heard her on the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and let her know how much you're receiving from her content because I know it is so from your heart.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you and thank you again for being here.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Kelly.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: You got it.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_02: All right, everyone.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_02: Stay curious.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_02: See you next time.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_02: Bye for now.