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- 0:02Speaker 1: Well Janks Driven with Ashley, John Hoosher, Brian Sexty. Change
- 0:12Speaker 1: starts right now. Yeah, it does. Um, guys, guys know
- 0:18Speaker 1: you know what this what this week and and what
- 0:20Speaker 1: everything really beyond. You know this point really means. Um.
- 0:25Speaker 1: You know, last week was just a matter of just
- 0:27Speaker 1: kind of you know, cleaning up the roster a little bit,
- 0:30Speaker 1: you know, and adding some new editions and finalizing the
- 0:34Speaker 1: practice squad and all that kind of stuff. And now
- 0:36Speaker 1: it's you know, we're in the game week, and you know,
- 0:39Speaker 1: everything we do matters, every little thing. How they how
- 0:41Speaker 1: they take care of themselves away from the building and
- 0:44Speaker 1: and prepare themselves and and but it's a good group.
- 0:47Speaker 1: It's a good group. I think that will that will
- 0:49Speaker 1: handle it well. And uh, you know they can eliminate
- 0:52Speaker 1: some distractions around them and just focus on ball, you know,
- 0:56Speaker 1: at least while they're while they're here. But I think
- 0:58Speaker 1: it's important to that, um, you know, we are practically
- 1:02Speaker 1: in some warm weather and how they how they take
- 1:04Speaker 1: care of themselves as important to regular season starts right now.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Welcome into Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday morning. Ashland Sullivan,
- 1:12Speaker 1: Brian Section and John Ozier here with you for the
- 1:15Speaker 1: entire football season. We are here Monday, Wednesday and Thursday
- 1:19Speaker 1: mornings after taking a little break here at the ends
- 1:21Speaker 1: of training camp in the preseason. But Brian, it feels
- 1:24Speaker 1: good that it's for real. And we just heard coach
- 1:26Speaker 1: Peterson say that. When you walked into the building this morning,
- 1:28Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let's go, let's go time.
- 1:30Speaker 1: It's the first big work day of the season, right Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Wednesday,
- 1:35Speaker 1: Thursday being the important days, um for us to get
- 1:37Speaker 1: into the locker room, talk to the coaches, get a
- 1:40Speaker 1: fix on the storylines. Yeah, it's um, it's nice to
- 1:42Speaker 1: have it for real. Yeah, what you didn't hear Doug
- 1:45Speaker 1: say the other day? He had a line he said,
- 1:46Speaker 1: now is when the fund starts. My first thought was,
- 1:49Speaker 1: you've been around the Jaguars the last time. Here's heavy Doug.
- 1:51Speaker 1: But Drew statement, the cool thing is, I think that's
- 1:54Speaker 1: much different now. It does feel different, and uh, you
- 1:58Speaker 1: know it, as Brian and said, even doing this as
- 2:01Speaker 1: long as we've been doing it, the regular season opener,
- 2:04Speaker 1: the first week, there's a different step. There's fewer guys
- 2:07Speaker 1: out in the practice field. We've all seen that, you know,
- 2:10Speaker 1: as you cut the fifty three last week and get
- 2:12Speaker 1: to sixty nine, there's more energy ere But he knows
- 2:14Speaker 1: this is his team. Let's see how it goes. It
- 2:16Speaker 1: is important what you said is exactly right, and that
- 2:18Speaker 1: is that Doug thinks this is fun. Doug is not
- 2:21Speaker 1: married to the idea of it hasn't been fun. He's
- 2:24Speaker 1: not worried about what happened in the here right. And
- 2:26Speaker 1: I think there's just something I've taken from him this
- 2:29Speaker 1: summer is there's just this sense of, well, I want
- 2:32Speaker 1: a championship. I've done this before, so just hold on
- 2:34Speaker 1: and watch what we do right. And I kind of
- 2:36Speaker 1: like that. That makes it fun, absolutely right. Let's get
- 2:38Speaker 1: him to big things. Big thing one is here we go.
- 2:40Speaker 1: It is the start of the regular season, in our
- 2:42Speaker 1: first chance to really see how coach Peter since Jaguars
- 2:45Speaker 1: will look. We are going to focus on wins and losses,
- 2:47Speaker 1: of course, but coach Peterson has a much bigger focus
- 2:50Speaker 1: than that. You know, I don't focus on the end result,
- 2:57Speaker 1: focus on the process, on your journey. And it's the
- 3:00Speaker 1: care of the small things was a big things to
- 3:01Speaker 1: take care of themselves, and and and that's the final score. Um,
- 3:05Speaker 1: and I just know that if we work hard this
- 3:07Speaker 1: week and prepare and go up there and play hard
- 3:10Speaker 1: and do the right things, you know, good things can happen.
- 3:12Speaker 1: And uh, I don't focus on necessary wins and losses
- 3:16Speaker 1: and put put you know, Um, you just over again
- 3:18Speaker 1: today you get more points than they do and and um,
- 3:22Speaker 1: you know, but it's a process to get there. You know.
- 3:24Speaker 1: We don't play the game on Monday. We we play
- 3:26Speaker 1: it six days from now. So we've got this journey
- 3:29Speaker 1: to go through this week. Big thing too is double
- 3:32Speaker 1: trouble running back James Robinson and Travis et m will
- 3:35Speaker 1: both be playing on Sunday. And man, that was not
- 3:38Speaker 1: a promise, but both of these season engine injuries for
- 3:41Speaker 1: these guys last season. Coach Peterson optimistic we're gonna see
- 3:44Speaker 1: both here against the Commanders. James is gonna good place
- 3:49Speaker 1: right now, just in terms of potentially being there on Sunday, Yes, kay, okay,
- 3:56Speaker 1: yea adventure again. I mean of very few words regarding
- 4:01Speaker 1: that the game three is good and fast. We think
- 4:04Speaker 1: this defense is much improved from what we've seen on
- 4:06Speaker 1: the training camp in preseason field. But against this Commander's offense,
- 4:09Speaker 1: we're going to find out how fast they can play,
- 4:11Speaker 1: especially against Carson Wentz. Captain foyert Alu Khan thinks not
- 4:15Speaker 1: a lot should change in that matter. I think that
- 4:19Speaker 1: did come naturally with you know, the first game coming
- 4:21Speaker 1: in accounting. But I said, our attention to the details
- 4:24Speaker 1: shouldn't shift from preseason and now because you know, when
- 4:27Speaker 1: you're trying to make a team, you should be trying
- 4:28Speaker 1: to be perfect and everything, and now not just because
- 4:31Speaker 1: the game comps should take that same atypical detailer and
- 4:34Speaker 1: put it towards game planning and stuff. So maybe for
- 4:37Speaker 1: the young guys that's new to them, but it should
- 4:40Speaker 1: be heightened awareness on stuff and being able to see
- 4:43Speaker 1: the same looks and not expect to see him in
- 4:44Speaker 1: the game. And there you have it. Those are big
- 4:48Speaker 1: things we get ready for a week when against the
- 4:50Speaker 1: Washington Commanders and away game this Sunday and John, I
- 4:53Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is we go back a couple
- 4:55Speaker 1: of months and the biggest question was, Okay, well are
- 4:57Speaker 1: we going to have both running backs here week one?
- 5:00Speaker 1: At times that didn't seem optimistic frankly, or really even promised,
- 5:03Speaker 1: and now it seems like, yeah, we're gonna have both
- 5:05Speaker 1: of them. Well, it certainly seems that, and I think
- 5:08Speaker 1: everybody is still waiting to see the effectiveness level of
- 5:11Speaker 1: James Robinson. I think we've seen Travis c t N.
- 5:14Speaker 1: He looked fine. He looked like a guy who can
- 5:16Speaker 1: play in the NFL. I want to see for Travis
- 5:18Speaker 1: if his speed makes him look faster than regular season
- 5:22Speaker 1: NFL defenders think it's gonna be the key for him.
- 5:25Speaker 1: But he runs hard. I mean, this is a kid.
- 5:27Speaker 1: I've been really surprised. If anything, it's surprising me about
- 5:29Speaker 1: Travis c t N. It's how many tackles he breaks,
- 5:32Speaker 1: It's how hard he runs for a little guy. James
- 5:34Speaker 1: Robinson to me, Um, I still want to see it.
- 5:38Speaker 1: I want to see that effectiveness. There's something with the
- 5:40Speaker 1: Achilles that still makes me nervous. But I'm not a doctor,
- 5:43Speaker 1: although I play one on TV. Well, two thoughts. First
- 5:46Speaker 1: of all, we had a conversation with Kevin Caplan, the
- 5:47Speaker 1: Jaguars UH team orthopedic surgeon, and he didn't do the surgery,
- 5:51Speaker 1: and he wasn't talking specifically about Um James Robinson, but
- 5:54Speaker 1: he was kind of giving us the overview of how
- 5:56Speaker 1: the process for Achilles surgeries have changed and how they've
- 6:00Speaker 1: fine tuned things to be able to match the spring
- 6:03Speaker 1: in each calf, you know, get the tension just right.
- 6:06Speaker 1: It was high brows stuff. But it made it clear
- 6:10Speaker 1: that this is not a reach for him to be
- 6:12Speaker 1: ready to go that over time, the surgical procedure for
- 6:16Speaker 1: the achilles, which used to be sort of a you know,
- 6:19Speaker 1: flip the coin, could you put it all back together
- 6:21Speaker 1: and get it right, It's much more precise these days,
- 6:23Speaker 1: according to what he was telling us. But the real
- 6:26Speaker 1: issue is here is I'm not a gambler, right. But
- 6:28Speaker 1: if you would have said to me both e t
- 6:30Speaker 1: N and Robinson will be on the field and opening day,
- 6:33Speaker 1: I would have taken that bed. I would have said,
- 6:34Speaker 1: no chance that both of them are ready to go
- 6:37Speaker 1: by opening day because those are major injuries. E t
- 6:39Speaker 1: N I would have given yes because he had more time.
- 6:42Speaker 1: But Jim's Robinson just did this in New York last December.
- 6:45Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that he's back now still blows
- 6:47Speaker 1: my mind. And if both of them have productive seasons
- 6:49Speaker 1: this year, put them both down for the head Block
- 6:51Speaker 1: Courage Award because both of them able to come back
- 6:53Speaker 1: from what could have been career ending injuries, two productive seasons.
- 6:58Speaker 1: It's a big story, absolutely, and I think we're getting
- 7:01Speaker 1: so many questions. Everyone's getting questions, Okay, well James Robinson,
- 7:03Speaker 1: is he going to be the same guy? And getting
- 7:05Speaker 1: so many questions about fantasy. Should I take him in fantasy?
- 7:07Speaker 1: And I think the key here is yes, he's back,
- 7:10Speaker 1: Yes he's gonna be starting running back. But I think
- 7:13Speaker 1: the question is how many carries is he going to get?
- 7:15Speaker 1: And they're not going to push that week one. I
- 7:16Speaker 1: think what what Kevin was telling us that days he
- 7:18Speaker 1: was explaining that you know how they fixed this procedure
- 7:21Speaker 1: is that there's a chance he could be the same guy.
- 7:23Speaker 1: And John, I think both you and I when we
- 7:24Speaker 1: started in this league, you've got to kill as you're done,
- 7:26Speaker 1: I mean running back twitch and you couldn't move fast.
- 7:30Speaker 1: And I've been saying this for six seven months. If
- 7:34Speaker 1: you're playing James Robinson in fantasy, I don't know that
- 7:37Speaker 1: you can take his numbers from past regimes and assume
- 7:42Speaker 1: they're going to be the same. Doug Peterson likes the
- 7:45Speaker 1: rotating backfield, and I think Travis et and will cut
- 7:47Speaker 1: into James Robinson's tears. I think it's a good thing
- 7:50Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. Maybe not a good thing, Shelenn for
- 7:52Speaker 1: your fantasy team. Hey, mine, I'm just getting some questions.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Given the third big thing. It sure seems to me
- 7:58Speaker 1: like as this offense kind of finds itself all the
- 8:00Speaker 1: new moving parts and pieces, they're gonna lean on this defense.
- 8:03Speaker 1: The question is can they lean on this defense? I mean,
- 8:05Speaker 1: it sure looks like it to talk about optimism from
- 8:08Speaker 1: what we saw from these guys on the practice field
- 8:10Speaker 1: and the little bit that we saw from the first
- 8:12Speaker 1: team offense against the Browns and the Steelers. I'm sorry,
- 8:15Speaker 1: first team defense against the Steelers, first team offense. Um,
- 8:19Speaker 1: I think they can lean on them. I mean, that's
- 8:20Speaker 1: probably what I'm most excited to see, is this defense
- 8:23Speaker 1: early on against the Commanders. I'm skeptical because I'm not skeptical.
- 8:28Speaker 1: I'm not skeptical because I can't say the word about
- 8:31Speaker 1: the quality of this defense. I'm skeptical if today in
- 8:35Speaker 1: today's NFL, if if any team can truly lean on
- 8:38Speaker 1: its defense. Even the two thousand seventeen Jaguars, which is
- 8:41Speaker 1: the best defense I've ever covered, they sometimes had to
- 8:44Speaker 1: play in shootouts and score a lot of points to win. Um,
- 8:48Speaker 1: I think this defense, what you hope it is, is
- 8:50Speaker 1: what I think great defenses are right now at big times,
- 8:55Speaker 1: can you get the opponent brick field? At big times?
- 8:57Speaker 1: Can you get turnovers? And But this offense, it's still
- 9:01Speaker 1: going to be in coming on the offense to score
- 9:03Speaker 1: points when it can. I don't think you can go
- 9:04Speaker 1: in the NFL anymore if you can't score points. No,
- 9:07Speaker 1: But I do think that you can lean on the
- 9:08Speaker 1: defense to break serve like you just talked about, and
- 9:11Speaker 1: to stop the run. Right if if this team gave
- 9:13Speaker 1: up a hundred and twenty nine rushing yards per game
- 9:15Speaker 1: last year and in the first two preseason games where
- 9:18Speaker 1: we saw the first team defense so against the Browns
- 9:20Speaker 1: and against the Steelers, they were excellent against the run.
- 9:23Speaker 1: If they are, then I think you can lean on
- 9:25Speaker 1: this defense. If they can stop the run, the first
- 9:28Speaker 1: step back to respectability for this fame. But they can't
- 9:31Speaker 1: stop the run, that's problem. Yes, so many games last
- 9:34Speaker 1: year you're going into the second quarter and it feels
- 9:36Speaker 1: like the game is out of reach at this point
- 9:37Speaker 1: because at that point they couldn't stop the run. And
- 9:39Speaker 1: even if the offense scores two more touchdowns. It's still
- 9:42Speaker 1: out of reach. You don't want is the click and
- 9:45Speaker 1: the lean head at halftime show. Last year in the
- 9:50Speaker 1: season finale, the Jaguars did a number on the Colts. Right,
- 9:55Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor had fifty seven yards in the game, but
- 9:57Speaker 1: I think he only had thirteen or fourteen in the
- 9:59Speaker 1: first half. And when it always on Carson Wentz his shoulders.
- 10:03Speaker 1: We saw what happened, right, he couldn't deliver. So if
- 10:06Speaker 1: you can go up there on Sunday and stop the
- 10:08Speaker 1: run and make Carson Wentz beat, you mightn't like your
- 10:10Speaker 1: chances to find your way to win. Absolutely big test
- 10:13Speaker 1: for this defense. For sure, we're going to find out
- 10:14Speaker 1: who they really are. That's for sure, all right. Coming
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- 10:45Speaker 1: goals is to do everything the right way, and you know,
- 10:48Speaker 1: obviously just trying to lead by example and for them
- 10:51Speaker 1: to be to vote me as a captain is a
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- 11:11Speaker 1: Time and His Time for This or That, presented by
- 11:12Speaker 1: Price dot Com. That Brian, Well, so I'll go with
- 11:22Speaker 1: this UM. Yesterday I turned on the Athletics, a f
- 11:26Speaker 1: C South preview podcast. I like to have some background
- 11:29Speaker 1: noise as I'm working, and I settled into start a
- 11:32Speaker 1: little research on the Washington Commanders. And when they got
- 11:36Speaker 1: to the Jaguars, it was clear they didn't know this team.
- 11:40Speaker 1: The offensive line was a wreck, right, Uh, the running
- 11:44Speaker 1: back situation was entirely unsettled. They didn't know that Travis E.
- 11:47Speaker 1: T n was back. Uh, they had been following it.
- 11:50Speaker 1: They didn't have a good feel for what the Jaguars
- 11:52Speaker 1: had done with the defense. UM, and I didn't expect
- 11:56Speaker 1: them to be Hey, this is a much better team.
- 11:58Speaker 1: I didn't expect it at all, but I expected was
- 12:00Speaker 1: they to have some idea since it was an AFC
- 12:02Speaker 1: South podcast of what was going on with this team.
- 12:06Speaker 1: So I say, if you know this team and your
- 12:11Speaker 1: expectations for this team are in check, don't pay attention
- 12:14Speaker 1: to what people are saying about this team because the
- 12:17Speaker 1: Jaguars and Jacksonville are still low on the priority list
- 12:21Speaker 1: and people aren't paying a lot of attention to it.
- 12:23Speaker 1: So it's just like, hey, they stink still, don't they Yeah,
- 12:26Speaker 1: they yeah, they stink still. Okay, all right, Jaguars stinks,
- 12:28Speaker 1: So don't worry about them. Onto Indianapolis. Whatever it was, Uh,
- 12:32Speaker 1: you will, you have your feelings hurt, you'd be mad,
- 12:35Speaker 1: and your phone may end up on the floor. Not
- 12:37Speaker 1: that mine did, but I was just I was stunned
- 12:40Speaker 1: it and how little they had a grasp of this team.
- 12:42Speaker 1: I thought Doug Peterson might pull people's attention to this team. Um,
- 12:46Speaker 1: and it did, And that was pretty much what they
- 12:48Speaker 1: thought was the the loan upgrade to Jacksonville. Don't have
- 12:53Speaker 1: a lot of expectations this week, and you know this
- 12:56Speaker 1: is where all the power rankings come out. Yours are
- 12:57Speaker 1: out today, right, this is where all the things come out.
- 13:00Speaker 1: People get excited about the season. You want to be excited.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Then if you would listen to that podcast, you'd be like,
- 13:04Speaker 1: we exactly why even turn So I would say this week,
- 13:08Speaker 1: do not Yeah, and it stinks because it comes across
- 13:11Speaker 1: like it's almost unprepared. But you can't blame them where
- 13:14Speaker 1: they haven't seen a product on the field to make
- 13:15Speaker 1: them change their mind. And that's on the Jaguars the Sunday,
- 13:18Speaker 1: and it is unprepared. And uh, I think this team
- 13:22Speaker 1: is not different than it was last year. But I've
- 13:25Speaker 1: said all along, fans write me all the time. When
- 13:29Speaker 1: are they we get no respect? You win your way
- 13:35Speaker 1: out of that. They've won four games the last two years,
- 13:38Speaker 1: so people who don't want to do the work and
- 13:40Speaker 1: figure out real research are going to assume that it's
- 13:43Speaker 1: still the same. So win your way out of that.
- 13:46Speaker 1: That's all you can do. Absolutely what you got. Uh
- 13:48Speaker 1: the Jaguars I'm waiting for it will win the turnover
- 13:52Speaker 1: battle Sunday. Well that's not really r I wrote, but
- 13:57Speaker 1: or they will lose the game. Uh So I think
- 14:01Speaker 1: this is a theme for me when I was talking
- 14:05Speaker 1: about this. That's more than this weekend. I think they
- 14:08Speaker 1: have built this roster trying to do something to fix
- 14:13Speaker 1: what was just an awful situation last year, which takeaways
- 14:16Speaker 1: They had nine for the season, which and they had
- 14:19Speaker 1: the fewest interceptions in the league, right, yet they had
- 14:22Speaker 1: seven interceptions nine turnovers and when you have that number,
- 14:26Speaker 1: you're going to be three and fourteen. So I think,
- 14:29Speaker 1: as as cliche it is, and as the reality is,
- 14:33Speaker 1: any team in the league has to watch that number.
- 14:35Speaker 1: As bad as this team was last year. Trevor Lawrence
- 14:39Speaker 1: has to reduce his interceptions. The obviously has have a
- 14:41Speaker 1: fewer turnovers, but the defense, I would say, has to
- 14:43Speaker 1: at least double that nine number. If it gets into
- 14:46Speaker 1: the twenties, then all of a sudden, you're talking about
- 14:48Speaker 1: defense that's doing the job we talked about earlier. But
- 14:50Speaker 1: well so, and we here coaches say this all the time.
- 14:52Speaker 1: It's rush and cover, right, So if the pass rush
- 14:55Speaker 1: is more disruptive, and last year, let's be honest, it
- 14:57Speaker 1: was all Josh Allen and most weeks he's saw two people.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Sometimes you also saw the back on the way out
- 15:02Speaker 1: of the backfield chipping him as well. All this year,
- 15:04Speaker 1: they won't be able to do that. It's effectively with
- 15:06Speaker 1: the Trayvon Walker on the other side. So there's a chance.
- 15:10Speaker 1: I got to see it first. But there's a chance
- 15:12Speaker 1: this team will be much more disruptive up from especially
- 15:14Speaker 1: against the quarterback like Carson Wentz, who will chuck it
- 15:17Speaker 1: up right. We've seen him do that. And with Tyson
- 15:20Speaker 1: Campbell the addition of Darius Williams um you feel like
- 15:24Speaker 1: this team will be more opportunistic in getting the bowl
- 15:28Speaker 1: away from the other team. So I think there's a
- 15:31Speaker 1: real chance. I don't think it could be much worse,
- 15:33Speaker 1: and I think there's a real chance they could take
- 15:35Speaker 1: a massive step forward simply because nine takeaways to eight
- 15:38Speaker 1: team would be massive this year, right massive. I think
- 15:41Speaker 1: they could even do more than that. We'll find out.
- 15:43Speaker 1: If you see a bunch of defenders for the Jaguars
- 15:46Speaker 1: running down and finding some camera and this thing that
- 15:49Speaker 1: it's going pretty well for that the kids like to do.
- 15:51Speaker 1: If they're doing that at some point in the first
- 15:53Speaker 1: half and they and the sidelines and get that energy,
- 15:56Speaker 1: I think they'll win. I think if they get a
- 15:58Speaker 1: turnover in the first half, they win the game, absolutely,
- 16:00Speaker 1: all right, My this sort that is all about these linebackers,
- 16:02Speaker 1: and he were going to see starting this Sunday against
- 16:04Speaker 1: the Commanders, Chat Muma or Devin Lloyd. I'm gonna go
- 16:08Speaker 1: with this week being Chad Muma. That's the rumblings I'm
- 16:11Speaker 1: hearing is that Chad Muma is going to start this week.
- 16:13Speaker 1: That's just because Devin Lloyd missed a significant amount of
- 16:16Speaker 1: time and training camp in the preseason. Devin Lloyd is
- 16:18Speaker 1: going to be your starter eventually. But I think this
- 16:20Speaker 1: says a ton about Chad Muma that you can plug
- 16:23Speaker 1: and play him to be a starter week one. We
- 16:25Speaker 1: thought at first when these two were drafted, I thought, Okay,
- 16:27Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, now go down a couple of steps then
- 16:30Speaker 1: Chad Mum. I don't think there's that many steps between
- 16:33Speaker 1: these guys right now. Well I do because of what
- 16:36Speaker 1: they did in college. Devin Lloyd had eight sacks, he
- 16:39Speaker 1: had four interceptions, he had two for touchdowns, he had
- 16:42Speaker 1: to fumble recoveries. He is a playmaker, He is a
- 16:46Speaker 1: difference maker. I think Chad move is a very good player.
- 16:49Speaker 1: I mean he had some pressures, some sacks, some interceptions
- 16:51Speaker 1: when he was at Wyoming two, but just watch the
- 16:54Speaker 1: two guys run and move. Was a very good athlete,
- 16:57Speaker 1: but Devin Lloyd's step above. So I don't know who's
- 17:00Speaker 1: gonna start on Sunday, but Devin Lloyd is your long
- 17:02Speaker 1: term guy inside. He's had a couple of weeks to
- 17:05Speaker 1: get ready. I wouldn't be stunted at all if he's
- 17:07Speaker 1: out there. Um, there's a reason why Devin Lloyd was
- 17:10Speaker 1: the first round pick and Chad MoMA was a third
- 17:11Speaker 1: round pick. And that's not a slight at all on
- 17:14Speaker 1: Chad movement. It's just Devin Lloyd is special. Yeah, I agree.
- 17:18Speaker 1: I think Chad movie starts this week. I think Devin
- 17:20Speaker 1: always a long term starter. But I think this shows
- 17:24Speaker 1: why they made this pick. Um. I don't think they
- 17:26Speaker 1: expected to be Week one, but it's okay to have
- 17:30Speaker 1: more than one good player at every physician Brian, So
- 17:33Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And especially a couple of days ago,
- 17:35Speaker 1: the depth chart came out and then you saw all
- 17:36Speaker 1: over social media, oh my gosh, you are the starters.
- 17:39Speaker 1: And I think what we're learning, especially with this three
- 17:40Speaker 1: four defense, is there's no such thing as a starter
- 17:43Speaker 1: for the entire game. We're gonna see all these rotations
- 17:45Speaker 1: and you can't get hung up on Okay, Devin Lloyd's
- 17:47Speaker 1: gonna be the starter forever without a doubt. And you
- 17:49Speaker 1: see in the three four, and we've talked about this
- 17:51Speaker 1: the last two years. You need lots and lots and
- 17:53Speaker 1: lots of linebackers. At one point before they brought Adam
- 17:56Speaker 1: gotz Is back, I think there were what four down
- 17:57Speaker 1: linemen and one of them was Smoot who's twitter and
- 17:59Speaker 1: seventy pounds. So that I mean, let's talk about stopping
- 18:03Speaker 1: the run. You want more big bodies. They're telling you
- 18:06Speaker 1: where their focus is on linebackers. So if Chad Muma
- 18:09Speaker 1: plays I don't know a third of the snaps right
- 18:12Speaker 1: or half the snaps, uh, that wouldn't surprise me at all.
- 18:14Speaker 1: Over the course of the season. He's there's gonna be
- 18:16Speaker 1: a package. He's going to be involved. He's a really
- 18:19Speaker 1: good football player. Yeah. Absolutely. And that is this sort
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- 18:50Speaker 1: months since we've visited this Ozone mail bag. It's normally
- 18:53Speaker 1: not the nicest place in the world, but I'm feeling
- 18:55Speaker 1: it's a little better this week. It's all right, it's
- 18:57Speaker 1: all right, all right, let's go to j C. What
- 18:59Speaker 1: do you got for us? Las Vegas has our over
- 19:02Speaker 1: under at six and a half. I can't see this
- 19:04Speaker 1: TIM team winning more than seven or eight games. If
- 19:07Speaker 1: we win that many, I'll absolutely consider this season of success. Yeah,
- 19:12Speaker 1: I mean, this kind of hits the theme I've been
- 19:14Speaker 1: talking about all off season. Brian. You know, I don't
- 19:16Speaker 1: think it's a nine or ten win team yet because
- 19:18Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be inconsistencies on offense because of
- 19:22Speaker 1: a young group learning a new scheme. I think you're
- 19:24Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of improvement out of the team
- 19:27Speaker 1: where there's gonna be mondays where we come in here
- 19:29Speaker 1: and everybody's very excited about what's going on. But I
- 19:31Speaker 1: don't know that they're going to be consistent enough offensively
- 19:35Speaker 1: in a league where consistent, high scoring offense now wins.
- 19:39Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna like what you see att
- 19:41Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence. If you like which see at a
- 19:43Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, and you've had a lot of games where
- 19:45Speaker 1: you feel like the offense move in the right in
- 19:46Speaker 1: the right direction, and they get to seven, I'll take
- 19:49Speaker 1: that in a minute. If they I'm on seven, by
- 19:52Speaker 1: the way, because I thought last year they could have
- 19:55Speaker 1: beaten the Falcons, the Texans and the Jets later in
- 19:58Speaker 1: the season, but they had incompetent coaching, and that costs
- 20:01Speaker 1: them the opportunity to go from three wins to perhaps
- 20:03Speaker 1: six wins in this season. Right. Of course, you could
- 20:05Speaker 1: argue they got that one at the end that they
- 20:07Speaker 1: weren't supposed to get, but so they were five or
- 20:09Speaker 1: six win team if they if they were well coached
- 20:10Speaker 1: last year. So I think seven is about the right
- 20:13Speaker 1: number based on what they've added and how much better
- 20:15Speaker 1: I expect the quarterback to be. However, the one thing
- 20:18Speaker 1: that might get me to eight is if the turnover
- 20:21Speaker 1: ratio that we were talking about earlier, if this is
- 20:23Speaker 1: a team that creates turnovers and short fields and makes
- 20:25Speaker 1: it easy on an offense that's still figuring its way, well,
- 20:29Speaker 1: then you could perhaps get to eight. I just I'm
- 20:32Speaker 1: the seven number just sticks in my head. If they
- 20:34Speaker 1: get to eight and double the win total from the
- 20:36Speaker 1: last two seasons combined, hey man, everyone should be And
- 20:39Speaker 1: by the way, I think it's worth saying if at
- 20:42Speaker 1: the end of this year they only have six wins,
- 20:45Speaker 1: but the quarterback is playing well right, and you can
- 20:47Speaker 1: see the development, you can see it, then it's all
- 20:51Speaker 1: about right and itched you for a team that we
- 20:55Speaker 1: don't think the playoff team, you know what to look for.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Your eyes will tell you what this team is doing
- 21:01Speaker 1: and how capable it is. At the end of the season,
- 21:02Speaker 1: when people want to say seven, they get angry, Well,
- 21:06Speaker 1: they won three. I mean they won three last year,
- 21:08Speaker 1: why can't they be I think also, what you need
- 21:11Speaker 1: to look for this year out of the fourteen losses
- 21:15Speaker 1: and I'm I'm sure I'm exaggerating that, but it felt
- 21:19Speaker 1: like eleven. It wasn't even a game where you just
- 21:23Speaker 1: felt like they were overmatched. I don't think you're gonna
- 21:25Speaker 1: have an overmatched feeling out of this team this year.
- 21:28Speaker 1: I think the first step towards playoff contention is winning
- 21:33Speaker 1: a few more and feeling like you match up against everybody.
- 21:37Speaker 1: This team didn't do that last year. It's got to
- 21:39Speaker 1: take that step. Yeah, and we always talk about being relevant, right,
- 21:42Speaker 1: being on the graphic. Seven eight wins get you to
- 21:45Speaker 1: that that slight feeling at the end of the year. Well, okay,
- 21:47Speaker 1: if we win this one, we got a chance. Well
- 21:49Speaker 1: that's where you want to be if you ask if
- 21:51Speaker 1: by chance to play your point, If by chance you're
- 21:54Speaker 1: somewhere around Thanksgiving and you're saying, hey, look if this
- 21:58Speaker 1: then that, well that'll own. We'll give you that feeling
- 22:01Speaker 1: of hope coming. All right, let's stay here in Jacksonville.
- 22:04Speaker 1: We'll go to Ronald. Last time I counted, there has
- 22:07Speaker 1: been a six turnover on the roster. Would you expect
- 22:11Speaker 1: some struggles as this key team gets to know one another. Well,
- 22:15Speaker 1: it's a little high, I corrected, Ronald. Um, I think
- 22:18Speaker 1: it's about which is still a little high. Although the
- 22:24Speaker 1: league this in this era, the league turns the roster
- 22:27Speaker 1: every year, so isn't that unusual? Um? But Toronald's point,
- 22:35Speaker 1: if it's not six, there are a lot of key
- 22:38Speaker 1: areas that turn that have turned over often. Most teams
- 22:43Speaker 1: huge turnover number is at the bottom of the roster.
- 22:46Speaker 1: This roster has changed a lot at the top with
- 22:49Speaker 1: some with a lot of key players. I think the
- 22:51Speaker 1: reason you're going to see some struggles is the coaching change.
- 22:56Speaker 1: If Trevor struggles a little bit in the offense, it's
- 22:58Speaker 1: not it doesn't mean he's not developing. It means there
- 23:03Speaker 1: is an adjustment period to where the verbage, the things
- 23:07Speaker 1: that he has to do with the line of scrimmage.
- 23:10Speaker 1: A tenth of a second a line of scrimmage can
- 23:11Speaker 1: mean a lot. If he's thinking a little bit about
- 23:14Speaker 1: the change, he's thinking a little bit about the new
- 23:16Speaker 1: scheme that will go away in time in this offense.
- 23:19Speaker 1: I think that's where you'll see struggles is because of
- 23:21Speaker 1: that first year element. I think you can see struggles
- 23:24Speaker 1: because you open on the road, and despite whoever you're playing,
- 23:27Speaker 1: it is tough to win on the road. The Jackers,
- 23:29Speaker 1: by the way, have lost seventeen consecutive games away from home.
- 23:34Speaker 1: It's way too many. But then you come home home
- 23:36Speaker 1: and you get a Colts team that's that wrote the
- 23:39Speaker 1: score of the game that was here last year on
- 23:41Speaker 1: painted it in their locker rooms. So you and Matt
- 23:44Speaker 1: Ryan and Jonathan Taylor and then you go to l
- 23:46Speaker 1: A to take on the Chargers. I mean, there could
- 23:48Speaker 1: be some struggles early for a team that's got turnover
- 23:52Speaker 1: because of the schedule and the opponents that are in
- 23:54Speaker 1: front of you. Right, and even when we go to
- 23:56Speaker 1: training camp or we go to preseason, we kept talking
- 23:58Speaker 1: about Trevor and we have three good days in row,
- 24:00Speaker 1: and then there'd be a day they're like, all right,
- 24:01Speaker 1: you know, we solve the inconsistencies. And I agree with you, John,
- 24:04Speaker 1: that's going to take some time. They painted the score. Yeah, yeah,
- 24:07Speaker 1: it's it's painting. It's it's painted. That's why I love
- 24:11Speaker 1: it so much. I mean, I can't wait a little much.
- 24:13Speaker 1: I can't wait for next week in week two, just
- 24:15Speaker 1: because of the rich storylines, whether it's you know, or
- 24:18Speaker 1: say standing out front of his jet, you know, whining
- 24:21Speaker 1: to the camera about losing in Jacksonville seven straight years,
- 24:24Speaker 1: or Frank Wright, who I think is one of the
- 24:25Speaker 1: better coaches, and even Keeled actually painting the score of
- 24:28Speaker 1: that one game in the locker. But the other ones, Yeah,
- 24:32Speaker 1: I just it'll be fine. The drama. I love it,
- 24:35Speaker 1: and we need a more favor in all right. Brian,
- 24:39Speaker 1: you wrote a question and from Middleburg is just you know,
- 24:42Speaker 1: how do you think the Jaguars defense will be this year?
- 24:44Speaker 1: Count me in for top ten in the league. Wow? Yeah,
- 24:48Speaker 1: I don't with defense in this day and age. Um
- 24:53Speaker 1: I guess top ten in terms of yards? Fine, and
- 24:58Speaker 1: we talked better than this show, Brian. Want to see
- 25:00Speaker 1: out of this defense? Can you get a pass rush
- 25:03Speaker 1: when it masks? First of all? Can you stop the run?
- 25:05Speaker 1: Can you get in situations rush in the pastor and
- 25:07Speaker 1: then when it's third and seven? Am I thinking that
- 25:11Speaker 1: the quarterback is going to have time? Or am I
- 25:13Speaker 1: thinking that he's not gonna have time? And if he
- 25:15Speaker 1: doesn't have time, then I think that turnover number is
- 25:18Speaker 1: gonna go way up. Uh, I would like to see
- 25:21Speaker 1: a I'm more concerned about seeing a positive turnover ratio
- 25:25Speaker 1: from this team that I am exactly where the defense finishes.
- 25:28Speaker 1: I think it will be a defense that's in the
- 25:30Speaker 1: top half of the league when you if if you
- 25:33Speaker 1: could watch all three D two teams and get a
- 25:35Speaker 1: feel for it, I think this defense will feel like
- 25:38Speaker 1: a top half of the league def I'm with you.
- 25:40Speaker 1: I'm not worried about what the number says statistically. However,
- 25:44Speaker 1: the eye test will tell you'll be able to look
- 25:46Speaker 1: at the defense and feel the situation. Third and eight
- 25:49Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Jacks leading by a field goal? Can the
- 25:52Speaker 1: defense get a stop right? You'll be able to see that.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Your eyes will tell you whether this is one of
- 25:57Speaker 1: the better defenses in the league or if they come
- 25:59Speaker 1: up short. Still needs something right. An art and key.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Throughout the entire preseason training camp kept screaming top five,
- 26:05Speaker 1: top five. He wants this defense to be top Absolutely,
- 26:07Speaker 1: that's what you wanted to would be a huge jump
- 26:10Speaker 1: from last season, that's for sure, and that is ozone snatchop.
- 26:13Speaker 1: When you come back on the Jaguars oginal networks. Some
- 26:16Speaker 1: closing thoughts. Big week ahead as we get ready for
- 26:21Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders this Sunday and away game to start
- 26:25Speaker 1: this season, and a lot going on. This is our
- 26:27Speaker 1: first big day of open locker room and press conferences
- 26:29Speaker 1: in practice. So, Brian, what do we have to look forward? Well,
- 26:32Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking forward to about three o'clock this afternoon
- 26:34Speaker 1: getting Mike McCoy, whoa Mike McCoy, the Jaguars quarterbacks coach,
- 26:39Speaker 1: uh and talk to him about what he's seen. You
- 26:41Speaker 1: remember he had Peyton Manning in um in Denver. He
- 26:45Speaker 1: had Philip Rivers in San Diego, so just kind of
- 26:48Speaker 1: getting a sense of where he sees the young quarterback
- 26:51Speaker 1: heading into his second season, Right, John, I am supposed
- 26:54Speaker 1: to either today or tomorrow talk to Josh Allen for
- 26:57Speaker 1: the ozone podcast. Uh, And it's been a couple of
- 27:00Speaker 1: years since he's been on that, so it's uh always
- 27:03Speaker 1: great to talk to Josh. He has great insight, uh
- 27:05Speaker 1: and is very good at discussing just where he is
- 27:10Speaker 1: in his career. So I'm looking forward to that. Yes,
- 27:12Speaker 1: he also is now on what he calls his talk show,
- 27:15Speaker 1: Jaguars All Access on Thursday nights. He is the new
- 27:18Speaker 1: host of Jaguars All Access, kind of filling in the
- 27:20Speaker 1: role of Calais Campbellhoo did such a great job with that.
- 27:23Speaker 1: And talking is not Josh's problem. He is fantastic on TV.
- 27:27Speaker 1: So he will be the new co host of Jaguars
- 27:29Speaker 1: All Access and his first guest is Trayvon Walker, so
- 27:31Speaker 1: that'll be awesome. I'll have to talk about because Traymon doesn't.
- 27:35Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how this goes. What's going
- 27:36Speaker 1: to be great and the first time we have players
- 27:39Speaker 1: back in a restaurant in two years since COVID, So
- 27:42Speaker 1: it's about time, and that is Thursday night at seven
- 27:44Speaker 1: o'clock and we'll be back on Jaguars Drive Time tomorrow
- 27:46Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, right here thirty on the Jaguars Digital Network.
- 27:50Speaker 1: We'll see it then. Bol