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Elisa Lam and the Cecil Hotel · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Welcome to another episode.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Ben and I'm Nicole and you're listening to Wicked and.
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  Speaker 1: Grim, a true crime podcast. Warning. The following podcast material
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  Speaker 1: intended for a mature audience listener discretion. Welcome back. Hello, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: I've got my coffee and I'm comfy. This time, my
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  Speaker 1: back doesn't hurt so much.
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  Speaker 2: Did you hear that?
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  Speaker 1: What you have?
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  Speaker 2: Coffee and not alcohol?
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  Speaker 1: I know, right?
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  Speaker 2: Well done?
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  Speaker 1: Well I thrive on one or the other.
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  Speaker 2: Well done, Ben, Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm proud of myself.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm drinking water. Look at that.
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  Speaker 1: Are we adulting today?
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  Speaker 2: Ye? Good?
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  Speaker 1: Being really good.
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  Speaker 2: I don't drink coffee so.
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  Speaker 1: Which I think you need to because you are way
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  Speaker 1: too tired most of the time.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, sometimes I really need to drink coffee,
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  Speaker 2: but it tastes like shit.
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  Speaker 1: I've I love the taste of coffee. I just I
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  Speaker 1: never really liked it because it always messed with my stomach.
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten over that. Though I don't necessarily drink coffee,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes I do. I have to drink a lot to
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  Speaker 1: make sure I drink it to keep me awake. But
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  Speaker 1: I drink coffee because it's like a ritualistic thingification.
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  Speaker 2: There's my phot I'm turning that off.
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  Speaker 1: I'll turn that off. But it's it's like a ritualistic thing,
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  Speaker 1: like wake up in the morning. It's that like nice,
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  Speaker 1: warm hug, feel good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, having just a warm beverage is really nice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, exactly, it's just my warm beverage of
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  Speaker 1: choice is coffee.
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  Speaker 2: I could have tea because I think like green tea
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  Speaker 2: is caffeinated. But honestly, like when I do have caffeine,
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  Speaker 2: because I've had some coffee drinks theft, I don't feel
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  Speaker 2: like it makes me more awake.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's not a lot of caffeine it maybe Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you've had energy drinks before. That sure makes you like
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  Speaker 1: awaken a lern yeah, but not.
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  Speaker 2: Even that much anymore. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting old. It's hard, hard to get into system.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just never going to be awake.
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  Speaker 1: This is just me for the way it's fired for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of our lives. Oh that is that is sad.
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  Speaker 2: We think about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're only thirty and we're already bitching. God. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm super pumped, me too. Do you know why not necessarily?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 1: The episode Yeah, okay, before we get into that though.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, tell us my notes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing paper. Although I've always been old school,
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  Speaker 1: I'm writing my notes on paper, and I still do
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  Speaker 1: notebooks and stuff. However, today I'm going digital. I discovered,
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  Speaker 1: thanks to you, that I had a tablet in my
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  Speaker 1: nightstand that I didn't even really know about. So I've
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  Speaker 1: got all my notes on a tablet today. So no
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  Speaker 1: paper turning, no, nothing like that. I just scroll, am
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  Speaker 1: good to go.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's really fancy, But it's also really weird that
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  Speaker 2: I had to tell you that you had a tablet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, when was the last time I
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  Speaker 1: used this thing?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It was lost for the longest period
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  Speaker 2: of time because it was in the middle console.
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  Speaker 1: Of your truck, my center console. It was just like
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  Speaker 1: taken by the void. But yeah, I found it. The
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  Speaker 1: only time I think I've ever used this was for
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  Speaker 1: Netflix when like I'm on the airport. That's the only
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  Speaker 1: time of usday because we got it for free signing up.
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  Speaker 2: Of the contract. Yeah yeah, but you look real fancy.
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  Speaker 1: Look fancy, I got my my my coffee in one hand,
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  Speaker 1: my tablet in the other.
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  Speaker 2: Look at us.
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  Speaker 1: But we're gonna be talking a real complicated story. Today,
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  Speaker 1: we gave everyone on Instagram who follows us a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a heads up.
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  Speaker 2: A sneaky piece, sneaky peek.
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  Speaker 1: We took a screencap from the CCTV footage of Elisa
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  Speaker 1: Lamb and everyone immediately knew that what this case was.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thanks to Netflix, I feel well it.
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  Speaker 1: Netflix has brought another another set of eyes onto this
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  Speaker 1: for sure, but a Lisa Lamb. The case of Alisa
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  Speaker 1: Lamb has been like notorious online. It's a very well
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  Speaker 1: known case prior to Netflix. But the Netflix series Crime
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  Speaker 1: Scene the Vanishing of Cecil Hotel, a vanishing at Cecil Hotel,
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  Speaker 1: that's made it.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit more. Honestly, before that, I didn't even know.
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  Speaker 2: I had never heard of it. Before that.
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  Speaker 1: I have heard of the case when we when we
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  Speaker 1: turned on the episode and we were like, I recognize
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  Speaker 1: the name Cecil Hotel immediately, but I couldn't couldn't place it.
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  Speaker 1: And then like two minutes in, I'm like, wait, is
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  Speaker 1: this is this a lease a Lamb? And then yeah,
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  Speaker 1: boom right away Yeah, I'm like, okay, I know what
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  Speaker 1: we're in for because.
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  Speaker 2: Where was she from? Again? Was she from BC?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's from Vancouver.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's she's a Vancouver resident, but the crime
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  Speaker 1: or incident took place in the States however.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, right, yes, yes, Ripley, what do you want? She
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  Speaker 2: needs something?
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  Speaker 1: She needs something, Ripley. You should go lay down, you
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  Speaker 1: should go lay down, go down. Okay, she's actually going
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  Speaker 1: to be she's going to behave I.
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  Speaker 2: Like how we were just like this is going to go
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  Speaker 2: one way or the other, and it went the right way.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go right into this. So Lisa Lamb
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  Speaker 1: was also known by her Cantonese Cantonese name Oh maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be like you and oh no Lamb
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  Speaker 1: ho yee. I believe that's how you pronounced that. She
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  Speaker 1: was born April thirtieth, nineteen ninety one. Her immigrant family,
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  Speaker 1: they immigrated into Canada, so she was born in Canada.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't realize she was younger than us. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: oh man, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And like her family actually like they lived in Burnaby area,
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  Speaker 1: and they opened a restaurant in Burnaby and that restaurant
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  Speaker 1: is still actually there. It's called Paul's Restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: Okay restaurant, and everything ran by them.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I wish it go.
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  Speaker 1: That would be cool, But I imagine that family has had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people use it as like an attraction
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  Speaker 1: thing because of this case.
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  Speaker 2: My thought to go was only to support them, because like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like they're still I don't know having a restaurant, like
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  Speaker 2: having something like this happened to their family could have
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  Speaker 2: made that shut down and be destroyed exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Like when this did happen, there was like they were
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  Speaker 1: like so many people going there, like not bothering them.
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  Speaker 1: At the restaurant, they were leaving flowers in the doorstep,
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  Speaker 1: but like it was like a memorial on the sidewalk
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  Speaker 1: in front of the restaurant, which is super nice. But
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  Speaker 1: I just I imagine there's some people treating this almost
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  Speaker 1: like a tourist attraction because of this case. So if
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  Speaker 1: anyone out there is ever going to go to their restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna please ask that you respect them, like go
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  Speaker 1: to the restaurant, support the restaurant. But I wouldn't bother them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they've dealt with a lot with this cash.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, we would like to go one day,
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  Speaker 1: but we're just gonna support the restaurant exactly. So anyways,
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't watched the Netflix series, you guys got
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  Speaker 1: to watch that. But you're gonna listen to us first.
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  Speaker 2: The deats from US first, exactly. So.
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  Speaker 1: Lisa was a student at University Hills Secondary School when
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  Speaker 1: she was younger, and then eventually she went to University
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  Speaker 1: of British Columbia. We all know that university, especially up
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  Speaker 1: here in British Columbia. She loved fashion and writing and
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  Speaker 1: it all came together in her online blog like this
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  Speaker 1: online world that you in. She had a blog bought
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  Speaker 1: account called ether Fields where you can find her writing
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  Speaker 1: and Tumblr account also known as Novelle Nouveau, which nouvelle
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  Speaker 1: means trendy and nouveau means like newly arrived or developed.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, she had a big online.
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  Speaker 1: Presence, oh major. Yeah, yeah, well she definitely does now
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  Speaker 1: because her accounts are still up.
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  Speaker 2: Right, which is really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, so, I actually have a couple of quotes
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  Speaker 1: that I'm going to go through with this from her account,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to link her accounts below so you
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  Speaker 1: people can go check them out as well. She did
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  Speaker 1: prefer Tumblr, though she was more active on there and
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  Speaker 1: posted lots of like including memes, clips from movies, quotes, photography,
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  Speaker 1: and historical events stuff like that. Okay, she opened up
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit on her blog posts, and you can
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  Speaker 1: tell that she was like a really good writer. She
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  Speaker 1: loved reading books, and she definitely developed herself and her
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  Speaker 1: writing skills.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, that's something I wish I had.
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  Speaker 1: Same. I'm a horrible writer.
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  Speaker 2: I yeah, both of us, Like, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 2: just struggle with I can write, but then it takes
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  Speaker 2: me a long time to actually make something sound good.
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  Speaker 2: But I overthink it and then I'm like, am I
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  Speaker 2: using the punctuation and stuff? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's that's my downfall grammar one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So there was deep posts on her blogs and she
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  Speaker 1: she would go along like quotes that really like posed
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  Speaker 1: insightful questions or thoughts to her readers, things like that.
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  Speaker 1: So she was quite quite insightful on these And I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go into a bit of her posts here,
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  Speaker 1: but before we do go into her posts, I want
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  Speaker 1: to kind of write a little bit of a note here.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure where I should say this in the story.
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  Speaker 1: I think here is the best part. Before we actually
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  Speaker 1: read what she had to say, we should understand a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of her first. Okay, she was actually diagnosed
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  Speaker 1: with bipolar disorder and depression. She had been prescribed for
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  Speaker 1: medications to treat her disorders, and according to her family,
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  Speaker 1: who supposedly kept her history of mental illness a secret,
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  Speaker 1: she had no history of suicidal thoughts or attempts.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good to know.
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  Speaker 1: So, highlighting on both of her blogs that she had
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  Speaker 1: ether Fields and Nouvelle Nuvaux on tumble blog spot, the
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  Speaker 1: quote up top says, You're always haunted by the ideas
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  Speaker 1: you're wasting your life. So that's quite prominent. Say that again,
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  Speaker 1: you're always haunted by the idea you're wasting your life.
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  Speaker 2: That's strong.
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  Speaker 1: It is very strong. Yeah, Like I said, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of this insightful stuff as you'll find. But that's a
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  Speaker 1: quote that she chose from an author. These words. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to read this here. This is directly her writing, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to try not to mess us up.
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  Speaker 1: This is quoting Elisa on one of her blogs. I
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  Speaker 1: feel I'm wasting my time compared to my fellow peers.
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  Speaker 1: I had a relapse at the start of the term
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  Speaker 1: and had to drop two of three courses I was taking.
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  Speaker 1: Now I am down one course and I have missed
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  Speaker 1: three weeks of classes since I'm sleeping. Since my sleeping
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  Speaker 1: pattern is completely reversed, I'm a bit defeated, for I
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  Speaker 1: have far too much free time and no one to
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  Speaker 1: spend time with. I'm checking emails, blog Lovin, Facebook, Tumbler
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  Speaker 1: all the time, and even jumped into the Twitter foray.
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  Speaker 1: I have a short detention span, and I'm avoiding writing
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  Speaker 1: the three papers I owe this course. It's two terms.
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  Speaker 1: I can text friends who are busy with either school
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  Speaker 1: or work, but I have neither of these things going
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  Speaker 1: for me. I've started a photoshop course, but it's only
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  Speaker 1: five classes, so perhaps I'm learning some sort of useful skill.
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  Speaker 1: Other than that, I have very little going on in
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  Speaker 1: my life, which is disappointing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that sounds really sad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the post goes on a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: about her personal struggles. Yeah, but it ends with this,
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  Speaker 1: with her saying this, as much as I do like
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  Speaker 1: spending time to myself when we are alone for so
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  Speaker 1: many days, it's not healthy. I know I must start exercising,
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  Speaker 1: but excuses it is a weariness that keeps me at
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  Speaker 1: a standstill.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's actually just shows how strong though that she
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  Speaker 2: is for putting that something out there like that is. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's amazing when people are able to express
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  Speaker 2: how they're feeling and instead of just bottling it up
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: And like her blogs were her her safe spot, so
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  Speaker 1: she was able to express these sort of things, and
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  Speaker 1: like she clearly felt like she was wasting her life
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  Speaker 1: not doing anything worth her time compared to her peers.
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  Speaker 1: And this could be why that she chose to travel
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  Speaker 1: and take a trip down to the West Coast in California.
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  Speaker 2: To do something grand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so Alisa found herself traveling first to San Diego,
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  Speaker 1: and I found this post where she was actually in
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  Speaker 1: San Diego. So this is where when she was there. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: today I slept, took a long hot shower, stuffed myself
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  Speaker 1: silly with a three dollars dinner. It had been most
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  Speaker 1: productive and enjoyable. I seriously have done nothing in San
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  Speaker 1: Diego that is out of the normal routine. At home,
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  Speaker 1: I do what I want, after all, I like my
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  Speaker 1: home comforts, and even now and then I do something
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  Speaker 1: entirely impulsive and reckless. Like tell a guy I just
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  Speaker 1: met that I like him. I do like people watching
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  Speaker 1: at the hostel. Now that I'm rested and well, sorry, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Now that I'm rested and well, starting tomorrow, I should
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  Speaker 1: venture outside more. Number one, see world number two, the zoo,
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  Speaker 1: number three museum because it's free. Number four whale watching
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  Speaker 1: at Corando Point, Limona, Limoa. I think I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how you say those, but yeah, whale watching at this place.
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  Speaker 1: So she certainly hadn't itinerary for herself. And she's trying
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  Speaker 1: to go out and do things and explore, but.
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  Speaker 2: Still being kind to herself and letting herself be which
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  Speaker 2: is awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's trying to stay true to herself, be comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: but she's trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Get out there, get out there.
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  Speaker 1: And be adventurous and find happiness. Right. Yeah, So after
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  Speaker 1: San Diego, she later arrived in La on January twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: Now I couldn't find what happened in these two days. Specifically,
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  Speaker 1: she arrived from the twenty six, was there for two days,
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  Speaker 1: and then she checked in on January twenty eighth in
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  Speaker 1: a hotel near Downtown's skid Row. Okay, now skid Row
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  Speaker 1: just so everyone's aware. It was established by city officials
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six as an unofficial quote unquote containment
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  Speaker 1: zone where shelters and services for home homeless people would
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  Speaker 1: be tolerated. Tolerated. That's a kind of a brutal word.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I feel like there could have been a
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  Speaker 2: different word to describe that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a neighborhood in LA also known as Central
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  Speaker 1: City East. It contains one of the largest stable populations
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  Speaker 1: about forty two hundred to eight thousand homeless people in
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  Speaker 1: the United States and has been known for its condensed
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  Speaker 1: homeless population since the nineteen thirties and covers fifty city blocks.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what skid Row is, and that's she's staying
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  Speaker 1: like right adjacent to this area.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, having a hotel that close to that isn't great,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, And I think the hotel kind of suffered
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  Speaker 1: from that because it also started up like kind of
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  Speaker 1: in the in the nineteen thirties as well, so right
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  Speaker 1: around the same time. And it's there's nothing against like
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  Speaker 1: the hotel, Like the hotel has tried to succeed throughout
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  Speaker 1: the decades and everything. We're going to get into the
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  Speaker 1: hotel here a little bit, right, So the hotel that
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  Speaker 1: she checked into is called the Cecil Hotel, the same
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  Speaker 1: hotel go over in the documentary by Netflix.
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  Speaker 2: Hotel.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, everyone knows this name, if you are into
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  Speaker 1: true crime, if you're on the Internet searching stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: Web sluths all know this name. So it was built
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty four as a destination for business travelers
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  Speaker 1: and tourists. Through the decades, however, the hotel began to
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  Speaker 1: decline as skid Row became increasingly populated with homeless and
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  Speaker 1: became a source for low income housing. Right, So the
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  Speaker 1: hotel like eventually became that people who couldn't have places
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  Speaker 1: that they could rent or purchase were actually renting rooms
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  Speaker 1: at the Cecil Hotel. So there was low income housing
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  Speaker 1: becoming more and more prominent within the.
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  Speaker 2: Hotel, which is probably a way that they never thought
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  Speaker 2: they would go exactly. It just, yeah, seemed like it
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  Speaker 2: just happened.
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  Speaker 1: It just started kind of happening. They never really meant
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  Speaker 1: for it or intended. It's just it was an income
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  Speaker 1: for the hotel, so.
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  Speaker 2: They well, they needed to succeed rather than just fail.
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  Speaker 1: Hotel has a dark history of murders, death and violence.
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  Speaker 1: Because of all this, There was even I didn't make
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  Speaker 1: note of who it was because that could be a
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  Speaker 1: whole other episode, But there was a notorious murderer who
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  Speaker 1: would go out murder people and then come back covered
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  Speaker 1: in blood and go to his room in the Cecil Hotel.
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  Speaker 1: That was just accepted, right, people like, that's the atmosphere here.
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  Speaker 1: You have a murderer who's comfortable going home in the
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  Speaker 1: Cecil Hotel, and people in the Cecil Hotel seeing this
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  Speaker 1: and just knowing that that's just normal. Yeah, that's just
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  Speaker 1: the way of life there, right, That's that's the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 1: It's dark.
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  Speaker 2: That is a hotel that I just think I'm probably
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  Speaker 2: never going to stay at.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So eventually, like throughout the decades, this is building
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  Speaker 1: up and building up, right, So eventually it forced the
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  Speaker 1: hotel owners to try and split the hotel into two
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  Speaker 1: portions because it couldn't really do anything else about this
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  Speaker 1: low income housing. So in twenty eleven, the hotel was
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: separated into two portions. One side was for that low
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: income housing. I mean, like I said, restrictions forced them
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: to keep that. I'm assuming it's government restrictions. I couldn't
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: find much on that.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Oh like restrictions they had to keep the low income house.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh like they couldn't. They couldn't just revamp the
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: hotel and kick all these people.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: It was probably needed, yeah, exactly.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: So the government's like, no, you got to keep it, okay. So,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: like I said, I can't find the facts on what
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: made them keep it or anything, but it seems like
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: it was some sort of restriction along those lines that
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: said no, it has to stay in places as is.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: So the low income housing on one side, and then
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: it was rebranded on the other side as the Stay
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: on Main with a separate reception area and everything. The
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: only thing is they did share the elevators, so you
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: would get crossover, a little bit of flow in traffic,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: but which.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Is really just interesting. It is concept, right, I don't know.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine just like, oh, I'm going to this
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: nice hotel and then you're in the elevator with someone.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the case in twenty eleven, but
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: maybe in the nineteen forties it was because that murderer
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: was there cousins.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: In blood, covered in blood going up to your suite.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I actually think I'd be like, okay, I'm out, yeah,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: piece out, no thanks, check you later.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: So when Alisa checked in, she was initially signed a
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: hostile style room in the Cecil Hotel on the fifth floor. However,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: her roommates complained of certain odd behaviors and she was
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: eventually moved to her room of her own after two days.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I searched and searched, and I couldn't find anywhere of
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: these roommates being interviewed or giving any sort of like
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: words or anything.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they weren't in that the documentary either.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: They weren't, so I can't find any confirmation on what
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: odd behavior was. There's some speculation and I know they
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I think they went over one or two in the documentary,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: but I didn't want to cover it because I couldn't find.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Facts on them well, and they must have not wanted
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: to be part of it then.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, potentially, So whatever odd behavior it was, she's now
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: in her own room after these two days. So on
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: January thirty, first, Elisa did not contact her parents as
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: she was supposed to. That was one of the stipulations
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: of her traveling down to the States. In California, she
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: has to call her parents every day. Oh I love that, right,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: good parents.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Good parish. That's amazing.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: So she didn't contact them, and eventually they reached out
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Police Department and reported her missing,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: and she was officially reported missing on February first. Okay,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the police searched the hotel but could not find her.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Her possessions were still in the possession or her personal
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: possessions were still at the hotel, but there was no
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: sign of Elisa anywhere until the police checked the secured
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the security cameras.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: That's where it gets wild.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the only place she can be found is
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: in the camera on an elevator. And on February fifteenth,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: after two weeks no sign of Lisa, no sign of Alisa,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the LPD released the footage to the public.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: That seems like such a long span of time.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I think what it is is like they can't
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: find her, and I'm sure it would have taken a
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: few days for them to track down the specific footage
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and everything.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Right, I guess.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's there's no telling when they receive the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: footage or anything, but when they released it to the public,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: it's it's probably like, Okay, we're looking for this girl.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Here's where she was last seen, here's her behavior, everything
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: which she was wearing.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So, I don't know, I just sick. That's like too
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: long of a span, Like time's precious when someone's missing back.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: That's true. So if you haven't seen the footage, I'm
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: gonna link it in the description here as well. It
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: is super eerie, super eerie. The footage of Elisa has
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: become incredibly famous. It's all over the internet. Like I said,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it's it's so eerie to watch that being said, like
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I said, the links there, go watch it. I recommend it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It's it's a good it's interesting. Interesting, you visualize the
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: story and its stuff easier.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So if you want to go watch it now, go
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: for it. If not, wait till the end. If you
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: go watch it now, please come back. So the footage
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: is forming a long and it shows Alisa enter the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: elevator alone. She bends down, presses a series of buttons,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and stands back at the elevator. Kind of normal, weird,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: she pressed on my buttons. But it's normal so far
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: until she begins to sneak forward and quickly pokes her
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: head out and looks both ways down the hallway as
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: fast as she can and then sneaks back into the elevator,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: back pressed up against the wall.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, and then.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Back to shifts over back into the front corner by
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the buttons and kind of like hides in the corner
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: of the elevator as if she's trying to hide from someone. Yeah,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: so super odd behavior. All the while. I want to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: make note that the elevator door isn't closing, it's staying
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: open this whole time. But this has been there's people
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: like saying that, well, that could be someone outside holding
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the button open. But in the documentary they even go
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: over this. It has been debunked that she actually was
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: pressing the doorhold button. So and that doorhole button holds
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the door open for two minutes, right, So the door
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: is open because she's pressing that button, just so people
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: are aware. So after a moment when she's kind of
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: hiding in that corner, she begins to make her way
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: towards the opening of the elevator again, and she makes
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: her way into the hallway where her behavior gets even weirder.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: She goes at a camera view for a moment, and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: she seems to be calm but kind of in distress
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: at the same time, like she's confused. She goes back
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: into the elevator, presses a bunch of buttons again, then
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: again exits the elevator. It almost looks like she's talking
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to someone. She's definitely saying like she's speaking. It looks
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: like she's speaking to someone.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And she was gesturing with her hands.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, she was beginning to do those really weird gestures
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: with her hands, like her fingers like spread really far apart,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and she's doing like circular weird motions, really odd stuff.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And then after the gesture, she begins to like also
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like bend her fingers back really far in her hands
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: back really far.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I don't remember that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Like it does like it doesn't look like she's breaking
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: her her fingers are putting yourself in pain, but it
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: does look really.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Awkward and really movement that you wouldn't normally make.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like like her fingers are like probably almost touching
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: her wrists sort of thing.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Like oh jeez.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's super weird. So, like I said, not harmful,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: but super weird. And she exits a camera view down
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the hallway to the left on the fourteenth floor and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: is never seen again.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So she yeah, because she didn't go up even go
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: up or anything at that moment, right like any she
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: didn't go up any floors or anything.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: You can't see any floors. All you can see is
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the hallway outside the elevator. So she went out the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: elevator and turned left.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And never and she's gone. Did they not have cameras
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: going down the hall and stuff?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: No, some of the cameras were restricted. There was not
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: cameras in every area. Again, they cover that in the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: documentary that their coverage of the cameras in the hotel
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: weren't the greatest.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: But even though that she's gone. One thing that I
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: want to point out is that the video continues for
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: another minute and a half.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: With the door being opened. Still right door.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: The door's open, but the door closes again two more sorry,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the door closes and it closes again two more times
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: before the footage ends. So it closes, then opens and closes,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: then opens then.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Closes, right, which is weird, really weird, really weird.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Even more strange about this footage, it has been edited.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So the first thing that you're going to see when
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: watching this footage, as far as edited happened editing happening
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the time stamp at the bottom where the time's scrolling
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: by and showing like date stamp, seconds and everything, it's blurred.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It's completely unreadable. The second thing is there is an
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: obvious cut in the footage where the door is closing
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: for the first time. All of a sudden, the door
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: just jumps and it's already halfway closed, and then smooth's
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: continue to close. There's an obvious cut down. Okay, yeah,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: which is really odd.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: So back to the time stamp. Though, even though the
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: time stamp is blurred, numbers are patterns one, two, three, four, five, six,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: seventy nine ten, yeah, and then it's two and then
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: so like twenty twenty one two, three, four, five, six,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: seventy eight nine thirty, which is three one to three.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: It's a pattern. So even though it's blurred, patterns have
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: emerged and people have easily been able to decode the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: time stamp.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, why why would they.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Even blur the Well, that's one question. Why did they
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: blur that?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: And why has it been edited to be blurred and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that cut?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems very unnecessary.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: But the time stamp gets weirder. You might ask Okay,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: why has it been blurred? But okay, go, I gotta
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: find this exactly here.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: That's not the weird part, apparently.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Oh it's not. It's it gets weirder. So people have
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: been able to decode the time stamp and they figured
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: out that the footage has been slowed down thirty three
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to thirty five percent, and fifty three seconds are missing
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: in the last one third of the video.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: What that's a long time.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: That's a long time.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: That's a long time.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: So there's major speculation on why and who did it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: What was going on in that fifty three.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Second could have showed someone that she could have been
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: potentially talking to, been responsible for what's about to occur.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's it's iffy. So during the weeks while
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: they searched for Elsa I guess at the hotel began
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: to complain about low water pressure and even some claims
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: of discolored water and a weird taste.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, this is just the part that
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I hate so much.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Even people who don't know this case, I'm pretty sure
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you can already see where this is.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I just hate it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: So this was an obvious issue and the hotel sent
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: their maintenance worker, Santiago Lopez, to investigate and repair the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: problem on the morning of February nineteenth. So remember she
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: was officially missing on February first, So on the morning
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: of February nineteenth, Santiago found Elisa's greenish bloated body floating
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: base up in a thousand gallon water tank located on
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the hotel's roof.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: With guests have using that water.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Unfortunately, this tank and three others, so it's four
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: in total, supplied water to guest rooms, a kitchen, oh,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: even a coffee shop.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that would probably make your latte taste real good, holy.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Mold as I'm drinking a coffee.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that actually just makes my stomach turn like
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: real bad. I feel like you could sue them for that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lawsuit that was put up
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: against the hotel by Alisa's parents. I didn't put this
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in my research or anything, and it was a lawsuit
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: against like negligence of safety or something along those lines.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, because how does she get in that hatch?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: The hatch was unlocked, right, Yeah, so the suit actually
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: didn't go through. I think it was in twenty fifteen
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: it fell through or something, but it was an unsuccessful lawsuit.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Oh dang. But I also feel like it's almost surprising
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: people weren't getting sick from that, right, I don't know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: maybe that boosts your moon system, who knows, But like
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: that's nasty.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally gross. So if you ever have a dirty
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: water at a hotel again, maybe think of think of this.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Case now that we've successfully ruined everyone's appetite for the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: rest of.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: The day, right, Okay, So on February twenty first, Oh, sorry,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the tank had been cut open and her body was
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: removed because they couldn't access her from the top of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the tank. Okay, So on February twenty fourth, first, the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Corner Office issued a finding of accidental drowning
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: with a bipolar disorder as a significant factor. So there
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: was no evidence of physical trauma. While she was found
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: in the water nude with her clothes at the bottom
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: of the tank, there was no sign of sexual assault,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and there was also no sign of suicide. The toxology report,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: it goes quite in depth on some of the stuff
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: found in her system. A lot of it's kind of meaningless.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: So I did cut some out like there was like
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: her blood level, blood alcohol level was like point zero two,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: minimal stuff like that. That's like, it's in there, but
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it's not necessary to talk about. So there's some stuff
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a cutout, but the important stuff that we do need
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to talk about. So the test showed that she was
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: taking her purpose. She was taking her prescription medication. There
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: we go, she was taking it. But no recreational drugs
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: were found, which some people say, maybe she got some drugs,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you know, like right by skid Row where there's a
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: bunch of shady figures.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: And stuff, which could explain some of her like behavior
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: in the elevator. Yeah, if she was high or something.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Now, However, even though she was taking her prescription drugs,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the concentration of those drugs in her system indicated that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: she had stopped taking some of her medications recently or
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: had been inconsistent.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: With them, Okay, which I guess could affect an illness
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: like that quite heavily.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: It could. So that is the case of Alisa Lamb.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are not happy to say that,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: you know, it was an accidental DRIs out, that someone
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: could have been involved in this, someone knows something. Why
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: has the footage been edited in the elevator. For example,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the door access to the roof was locked, so a
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: hotel worker is the only one who could have led
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: her to the roof. However, in the investigation trying to
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: find her when she was missing, there was police dogs
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: in the scene. They didn't find her on the roof.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Police dogs never found her on the roof, So just
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: saying that, but the did catch her scent up to
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a window where she could have used the fire escape,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: which was accessible to the public, which easily accesses to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the roof.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's one of the theories and how she
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: got up there, right, Yeah, And honestly, I just I
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: was just going to say, it doesn't feel like this
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: is very That outcome doesn't give a lot of closure
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to the family, So I do there's still things kind
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: of up in the air.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's so many things up in the air. Yeah,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: but I do have the theories written down here. Okay,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: some of these theories are a little wild, some of
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: them might be a little more on point. You decide
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: what you think. The official report, however, that she had
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: drowned accidentally.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Was an accidental drowning.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Drowning, so it was like her unfortunate death was labeled
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: as such, but there are still some theories that surround
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: little details that suggest otherwise. I'm like why, Like I said,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: why was the footage edited?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: That's a big one.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: The hatch on the water tank is a big thing.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: The police report. I tried to look it up. I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: couldn't find it, but the police report says according to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the documentary and many other sources talking about it online,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: apparently the police report says the hatch was closed on
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the top of the water tank. And people say, Alisa,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: if she jumped in on her own, will wouldn't have
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: been able to close that hatch.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: There's no way. Yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: However, the worker who found her, the maintenance worker, Santia Lopez,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: says it was open. So why did their police report say.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Otherwise unless he like closed it after I imagine seeing
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: that like, oh my gosh, and that closes it or something.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe, or I don't know, it's so hard to say.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: In the documentary, they brush it off as just an error, right,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: someone just made a mistake.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: But those hatches should be locked.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: They should be which again, like that's why that lawsuit started.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that is a safety issue for sure.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're locked now on that building and many
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: others around.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because this, honestly, this isn't the first crime
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that I've ever heard where there's someone dies in a
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: water tank or gets like stored or gets murdered and
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: then stored in a water tank. Yeah, so this is
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: the thing.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: We're going to touch on that a little bit here,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: am I jumping ahead? Almost almost kind of maybe a
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: little bit in a parallel way. But this whole like
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: hatch issue opens up the world of theories for a
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: cover up by either someone at the hotel, some one
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: in the police, or even possibly government.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, that the hotel covering something up. That is an interesting.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: One, especially when it comes down to the footage. The
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: hotel claims they never edited it, edited it, they never
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: edited to it, and the police say that they never
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: did either. They released it just as the hotel gave
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: it to them. So there's no one out there admitting
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to doing any sort of editing to the footage.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Huh Okay, because yeah, I just have I just feel
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: like this hotel is a bit sketch. Yeah, so something
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I wonder something, Yeah, that is a theory that I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: think I could fall behind. So that is the.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Most logical theory. There's three more theories I have here
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: that are a little bit out there. There's one theory
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to touch on because it has been
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: completely debunked. They touch on it in the Netflix series,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: so you can go watch that and take a look yourself.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: It's about the metal heavy metal rock dude.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: But anyways, oh yeah, yeah that one now.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: So one of the theories is the quote unquote dark
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: water theory. There's a two thousand and five horror film
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: called dark Water and it's a remake of a two
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: thousand and two Japanese film with the same name.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Are what is that called some pump? Some pump is going.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys can hear that or not,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: but it's a loud, humming door is opened. Yeah, pretty much. Okay,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a remake of this two thousand and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: two Japanese film with the same name, and the movie
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: features a little girl who moves to a dilapidated building
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: with her mother and then dies after falling inside a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: water tank on the building's roof. Very similar premises here. Yeah,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So one of the theories is that someone may have
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: been using a Lisa to recreate this plot.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Like a person like murdering.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so some sort of like copycat murder.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Oh that's fun.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Geez fun, that's the word I wouldn't use.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Wow, geez. I don't like that one.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So that is a theory.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I don't like that theory.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Another theory is a tuberculosis cover up. This is one
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: of the most elaborate theories to emerge, the tuberculosis theory.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, what is this again?
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: This one it's it's kind of there's some crazy coincidences
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: in this one, but it's it's again, it's a little
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: out there, even though these coincidences are like on point.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: So it suggests that Alisa was actually a test subject
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: for some kind of tuberculosis medication. To get this. There's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: an outbreak of tuberculosis in skid Row in LA at
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the time that Alisa was there, just days after her
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: body was found. Okay, So I'm gonna try and say
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: this drug properly. Iso nisid I. So nisid I think
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: is how you say it. It's the most common anti
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: antibiotic prescribed to those who suffer from tuberculosis. One of
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the main side effects of this drug is confusion and
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: abnormal behavior. Wow, very sane behavior. Elsa was exhibiting on
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the CCTV footage in the elevator.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: That's a side effect and a half right.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a strange coincidence.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Well here's another one. A tool that is being used
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to test patients for tuberculosis is called LAMB dash Elisa.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Alisa's name is Alisa lamb.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: That's wild.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: It's spelt exactly the same.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: That's wild.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like that is actually a little
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: bit like there's a lot of connection weirdness going on there.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So that LAMB Alisa test apparently stands for enzyme linked
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: immunosorbent essay asay as s A y essay A.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: S s A y. Yeah, you're asking me asay assay.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just like being having a blonde moment, but
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I can't read that word anyways.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with being blonde, then.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Hypothetical blonde moment. Okay, I'm sorry, did you just assume
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: my hair color? Okay? So theories also address a potential
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: explanation on the like the Netflix documentary arguing that A.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Lisa could have been a subject to knowing too much
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: and was fatally silenced. The University of British Columbia, where
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: we know she went to school, has a renowned tuberculosis
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: research center, like one of the top of the world.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: See, I just okay, I don't I don't think this
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: is a legit theory. But there is a lot.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on here. There's a lot of
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: like really one target coincidences.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's very it's very alarming. But I just
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I can't get behind that theory. But yeah, yeah, it
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: does need to be noted. There's too much.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: There's so much in line that it's like it just
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to put it into words. How
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: much of a like how can you get this many incident?
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I think there was another one involving like longitude, latitude,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: some other number stuff that was really weird. But that
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: one was a little bit out there for me. I
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: just kind of left that one be. But there's it
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: lines up way too well.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: But that also maybe the more you dig, maybe you
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: could always just find something a connection between weird things.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That's the more you dig, you know that's true.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You're looking for an answer, You'll find it eventually. Exactly
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: so that that is a theory. It's the most well
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: established one, I guess because of all those coincidences. The
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: final theory is the strangest and most unlikely theory. But
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: it's my favorite because it's way out there and I
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: like to entertain these kind of ideas and this kind
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: of shit. Okay, it's called the elevator game. Okay, okay,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the elevator Game, also known as a Korean elevator game,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and Elevator to Another World, Elevator to Hell. It's got
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different names. The game involves entering an
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: elevator along entering an elevator alone have a building of
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: at least ten stories high. The player has to follow
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a very specific set of rules, pressing different buttons to
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: go to different floors, and if you press these sequence
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: of buttons correctly, you proceed to a whole different dimension
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: indoor world.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then so.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Some people try this.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of tempted to.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's just like, let's do that when you're on
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: your own, not when I'm with you.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So you're gonna leave me so I can go, Wow,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Know, that's just creepy. That's creepy.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: It's definitely creepy, and they say it's best done at
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: night because you know, you can't be interrupted, is why
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you can't be interrupted, and if you interrupt, if you're interrupted,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you have to start over. So at night there's less
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: people around, less people.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: But also just like I don't know, I feel like
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: at night you're more freaked out.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that theory suggest that maybe Lisa, Elisa sorry,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: was playing this game and she summoned some sort of
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: something or someone interesting. Yeah, so officially her death was
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: declared as drowning with contributing factor of bipolar disorder, but
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: we have these other theories out there and a lot
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: of people are not quite at rest and whether it
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: is a murder, whether it's a tuberculosis cover up, whether
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: it's an elevator to hell. All we do know is
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: that Alisa had a very tragic passion here.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: She was just out trying to make her life a
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: bit more exciting, and this shit happens like that's brutal.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Exactly, And I'm going to scroll back here on my tablet.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, how's that been going good?
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Actually, I think I might need to use a bit
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of a bigger font.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: You or just get the glasses, like you need Shut up.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not that old yet you need glasses.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I want to end this podcast on a little bit
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: of a note here. This note was what she has
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: at the top of her blogs. I already read it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it again. Okay, you're always haunted by
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the idea you're wasting your life. It's almost like like
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: she wrote her own obituary, no kidding, or.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Like what should be on her gravestone. Really, it just
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: kind of gives you a little bit of shivers, it does.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: It's sad.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: So that is the story of Alisa Lamb. Go check
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: out the next Netflix series. There's four episodes on it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: There is a deep, deep hole you can go into
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: on the internet.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there is.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and go check out that cc TV footage link below,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and her blogs are down below. Give her a read.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: We'll give her some support. Even though she's gone, you
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: can still read what she wrote.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can still support her, for sure. It's it's
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: very sad. It's so sad.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh man, So I do have a little bit
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: of good news at the end of this episode, though.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, we are.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Going to start a little mini series for everyone out there,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: have an episode coming out every Tuesday. Everyone knows that,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: but randomly once in a while to give you guys
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: a little boost of serotonin. We're coming out with a
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: mini episode called Legend. Has it cover urban legends, ghost stories,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, And we're gonna be coming out
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: with a little episode this week for you guys. I'm
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: not gonna tell you what day it is. We're just
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: gonna drop it out on little Bonus. Yeah, drop it
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: out on Instagram, say here it is, and we're gonna
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: drop it out there on our Spotify, Apple podcast the
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Whole World, so you can go find and listen to us.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So if you're listening on Tuesday, you got maybe a
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: day two, three maybe and it'll be out. If you're
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: listening later in the week, could already be out. But
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going over the whole elevator game. So
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: let's talk about that in depth.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: And it's just a little bonus. It's a little bit
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: shorter than the normal podcast, exactly right.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: It's not just a little fun throw it in there
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: once in a while, like I said, for that boost
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to serotonin.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. I like it.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: So until that episode comes out and until next Tuesday.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: What do we say it again, Nicole?
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I need to say one more thing here.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Well well done. That was really well done. I enjoyed
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: that thoroughly. And I want people We're going to do
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: a post on Tuesday. I want to hear what people think,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: like what was their theory, what do they think happened?
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I want to know, so like, go comment on the
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: post and tell us because I love actually hearing what
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: other people think of, like their theories and stuff.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And we've already been contacted by one of our listeners, Nirvana.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's actually stayed at the Cecil Hotel, not
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: too long for the whole Alisa Lamb incident. And she
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: sent us some photos from her stay there, so we'll
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: be posting that on her Instagram.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: That's super cool. Yeah, and yeah, there's probably other people
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: out there that have stayed there.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I hear these stories. I want to hear, so we'll
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: hear those stories. We'll drop our story the Elevator game,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and we'll keep posting some wicked stuff.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, finish it off, Ben, all
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Right, stay wicked guys, see you later,