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Furness Show 4-21: Jon Haarlow, Joe Sheehan, John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go on a Tuesday EDG of the show.
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  Speaker 1: We're back in the studio. Are we on the tube today?
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  Speaker 1: On the YouTube? Yeah? No, absolutely we are.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see here are all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see it, but maybe, oh wait a second,
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  Speaker 1: there we go. I just gotta know if Mike works
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  Speaker 1: where I'm at. This microphone is just pissing me off. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Yes, it's getting a little flaccid.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but why is that word funny?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Either needs the microphone
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  Speaker 1: needs an endorsement from something Blue tablets. Okay, Uh, what
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  Speaker 1: do we got going? We got kind of a We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna dance around a little bit this first hour of
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  Speaker 1: the show. Because John Harlowe is the new athletic director
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  Speaker 1: Washington Universy. He's gonna join us at twelve thirty. I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad he's coming on today. Where's my notes? Three hour show?
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  Speaker 1: I gotta make show notes now?
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  Speaker 4: Thrilling, thrilling.
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  Speaker 2: There it is on the on the let's reminiscent of.
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  Speaker 1: This is taking me back to my days in the
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  Speaker 1: press box covering the Hawks. I had a notebook that
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  Speaker 1: we were using today anyway. Yeah, we're gonna talk to
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  Speaker 1: John Hurle. It's good because there was something I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to bring up today anyway that I didn't get chance
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  Speaker 1: to yesterday with college hoops, college sports and all that.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll have John on coming up at twelve thirty,
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  Speaker 1: first time I have a chance to talk to him
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  Speaker 1: as well, and then we'll get into our buddy Joe
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  Speaker 1: Sheen is going to join us today at one twenty
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  Speaker 1: week we visit with Joe with the baseball team conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Eh da da da baseball team. You do a postcast
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  Speaker 1: what happened.
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  Speaker 4: The manager happened right after we had that discussion yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: And this is gonna be a problem, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Dan such a good d That's what sucks
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  Speaker 2: when things go wrong for someone you.
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  Speaker 1: But it really feels more and more like that's just
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  Speaker 1: if you missed our Moullywop conversation yesterday, take a peek again,
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  Speaker 1: take a list and download the podcast or whatever we
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  Speaker 1: do these days, and a listen because at the second
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  Speaker 1: segment of Molly Wop I brought it up and now
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  Speaker 1: he had guys that weren't available yesterday right out of
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  Speaker 1: the bullpen.
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  Speaker 4: Supposedly. I don't understand why Bizarto wasn't available because he
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  Speaker 4: didn't pitch now two days ago, okay, but he did
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  Speaker 4: pitch three of the five, but two of those three
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  Speaker 4: were eleven pitch outings. He should have been available in
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  Speaker 4: my in my ass.
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  Speaker 1: So and said Gonzaga guy goes in there and gets
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  Speaker 1: lit up, right, beans, they call him beans whatever.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I have to make a correction, my bad.
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  Speaker 5: I was reading Monday's words, so I apologize for those
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  Speaker 5: out there. The word of the twelve o'clock hour is
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  Speaker 5: actually rich? Are I c chh?
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  Speaker 6: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: I'm having a day?
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  Speaker 4: Are I c h geez?
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  Speaker 5: Also purple sheet's name, and also you want to be rich?
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  Speaker 4: But that's kind of the main context of us.
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  Speaker 5: I would assume the rest of the words are all
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  Speaker 5: money related.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, the twelve o'clock hours rich.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well done? All right, So there we gone ninety
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  Speaker 1: three three kjer dot com. Go in it there, don't
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  Speaker 1: text it. Go to the website. That's the whole point
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  Speaker 1: of the contest is go to the website. All right,
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  Speaker 1: So we, like I said, we're kind of tweaking things
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  Speaker 1: break wise. Today, we're gonna take a quick break, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna come back. We'll set up a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: I want to discuss with John Harlow, including today, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, is the last day that the portal is
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  Speaker 1: open for college basketball. And I got I got something
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  Speaker 1: I want to just throw at Husky fans and Cougar
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  Speaker 1: fans held Gonzaga fans. If you're listening, doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: Knowledge at basketball or sports fans.
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  Speaker 1: That's I want to throw something out there. And because
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  Speaker 1: Softy talked about it a little bit, he said something
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  Speaker 1: last week that really stuck to me. It was and
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  Speaker 1: I thought, and I think you spoke for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fans and some I'm gonna discussed with John Harlow
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  Speaker 1: bott the hour.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get to that.
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  Speaker 1: I broke a cardinal, cardinal rule of my own self
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  Speaker 1: last night, and Andrews caught me on it. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that at one o'clock today. That was he caught me,
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  Speaker 1: yep and just called me out right away.
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  Speaker 6: How did you?
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  Speaker 4: And just but he called me out and he threatened him.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got to come clean at one because he
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  Speaker 1: called me out on our text chain last night.
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  Speaker 2: We need to do confessionals on this show.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's what's gonna happen at one o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's confessional.
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  Speaker 1: Less be father for I have Sinn coming up at
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  Speaker 1: one o'clock today, music for you.
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  Speaker 4: All right, we'll talk.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about something I think we can all relate
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  Speaker 1: to in college sports coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're back. Welcome in here. We are cruise
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  Speaker 1: If you're watching on the YouTube, we're on the YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, you can watch the YouTube.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: The fun thing about the YouTube is, uh, you can
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  Speaker 1: interact with other listeners, viewers, each other, us whatever. We'll
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  Speaker 1: send angry responses back. Now this is we don't do
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  Speaker 1: that on this show. I go I send anything angry
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  Speaker 1: back unless you're really mean to us. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we figure out yet how to block it.
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  Speaker 4: I know how to. Okay, good, that's just me.
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  Speaker 1: You do that if you need to. Yeah, John Harll
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  Speaker 1: is going to join us a new Washington State athletic director.
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  Speaker 1: So I just I called SOTS because I want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure to put words in his mouth. But he
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  Speaker 1: said something last week that resonated with me. The transfer
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  Speaker 1: portal for college basketball closedes today, and before you switch
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  Speaker 1: the channel, I'm not into college basketball, hear me out.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm dead serious about that. Yeah, because I know
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  Speaker 1: we're all into it during March badness and when Gary
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  Speaker 1: Parrish comes on. But I bring it up for this reason.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I'm gonna talk to him about. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what the answer is or how long it's sustainable.
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  Speaker 1: I saw this yesterday. I mean use this as an example,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna bring everybody into the conver station, not
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  Speaker 1: just Wazoo. Miles Rice, who was a massive part of
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  Speaker 1: Wazoo going to the tournament three years ago, great story.
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  Speaker 1: Young man had cancer. He red shirted as a freshman
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  Speaker 1: with Kyle Smith. His second year, he also had a
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  Speaker 1: red shirt, was a medical red shirt. Because he had
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  Speaker 1: to fight cancer. He beat he beat it, beat cancer,
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  Speaker 1: cancer survivor, comes back for what is now his red
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  Speaker 1: shirt freshman year, helps lead Washington State to the NCAA
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  Speaker 1: tournament three years ago with Kyle Smith along with Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Wells and some other dudes that ended up going on
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  Speaker 1: for big things. But Jalen Wills ends up being runner
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  Speaker 1: up for Rookie of the Year last year and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff, all rookie team for the NBA. But Miles
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  Speaker 1: great story of course, Kyle leaves goes to Stanford, Miles
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  Speaker 1: rice size transfer. He's going to go to Indiana, goes
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  Speaker 1: there for one year, doesn't Things don't work out. They
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  Speaker 1: don't go to the tournament. They spent a ton of
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  Speaker 1: money Indiana two years ago in the portal and it
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  Speaker 1: didn't work out. They missed the tournament, fired the coach.
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  Speaker 1: Where you go? He goes to Maryland this year. He
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  Speaker 1: goes to Maryland. Started just four games out of the
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  Speaker 1: seventeen he played at Maryland, averaged average four points or
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  Speaker 1: something in a game. He was a fourteen point eight
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  Speaker 1: point a game guy at Wazoo, ten points at Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: five point six at Maryland. He's getting worse, it hasn't
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  Speaker 1: worked out for him. He entered a transfer portal yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: a day before it closed. He will play four schools
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  Speaker 1: in four years. Now, Wazoo fans like, maybe he's coming home.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he's coming back to Wazoo. He's not from our area.
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  Speaker 6: I doubt it.
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  Speaker 1: But even if he does it does it it still
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  Speaker 1: makes my point. Four schools and four years. Three schools
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  Speaker 1: and four years. This system doesn't work. I'm asking you
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  Speaker 1: guys a question, though, Is it harder? I don't If
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  Speaker 1: you say a kid can transfer resilient times, that's fine,
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  Speaker 1: That's not what I'm asking How hard is it to
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  Speaker 1: be a college basketball fan? And here's where I brought
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  Speaker 1: Softy into the conversations. I heard him say this last week,
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  Speaker 1: him and Dick we're talking, and he said, I don't
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  Speaker 1: even care about Washington basketball anymore because you can't build
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  Speaker 1: anything lot, you can't look forward to the next year.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, hey, you know what we showed improvements under
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  Speaker 1: Danny Sprinkle, Zoom's coming back. All these dudes are coming back.
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  Speaker 1: Manda Quid or whatever his name is, is coming Nope, they're
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  Speaker 1: all leaving. I think it's impossible and our two schools
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  Speaker 1: in this state are not immune to it. Gonzaga had
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  Speaker 1: a great player from around here, Michael Jaye. He went
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  Speaker 1: to Kentwood, ended up playing one year at Gonzag after
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  Speaker 1: being at Pepperdine, transferred to Butler or someplace. This year
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  Speaker 1: they were so so like they I think they might
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  Speaker 1: have had a play, not didn't play a game. I
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  Speaker 1: think they should have been a turning team.
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  Speaker 6: They weren't.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, no one's immune to it. Kentucky is losing their
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  Speaker 1: best players. Arkansas lost one of their best returning players.
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  Speaker 1: No one is immune to it. Kansas has nobody left
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  Speaker 1: on their roster. Is and I'm gonna ask John Harlowe
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  Speaker 1: this in a few minutes when we have one. I
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  Speaker 1: think it is becoming really hard to be invested in
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  Speaker 1: college basketball, more so than college football. College football, there's
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  Speaker 1: still a big turnover, but it's not as great depending
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  Speaker 1: on what number you want to see, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go with the highest number I found today. Over sixty
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  Speaker 1: percent of returning college players in college hoops Division one
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  Speaker 1: are in the portal. I think that number is actually low,
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  Speaker 1: just based on what we see in our state. I
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  Speaker 1: so when people say and John's gonna tell us this,
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  Speaker 1: we need people to donate. Why what am I getting
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  Speaker 1: any money for for a guy to come for one
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  Speaker 1: year and leave?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think one of the best parts of sports at
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  Speaker 4: any level, college pro is the player development. You get
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  Speaker 4: to see a player grow from right something when you
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  Speaker 4: have when you're talking about college basketball and your entire
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  Speaker 4: roster's gone, What even is that it used.
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  Speaker 1: To be when the portal first open, it would be
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  Speaker 1: well and for football and basketball, Well, kids don't want
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  Speaker 1: to can Pete anymore, right, And I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that's the case now. What it is is if it's
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  Speaker 1: four schools in four years or three schools in four years,
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  Speaker 1: you're just always looking for just a couple extra bucks.
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  Speaker 1: You're not developing relationships. You're not anyway. You said, you
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  Speaker 1: know what's really cool? What's the step that nick Emon
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  Speaker 1: warr is gonna take this year with the Seahawks?
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  Speaker 6: Awesome?
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  Speaker 1: Like, what's the step he's going to take? What about
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  Speaker 1: Gray's Abel? What step will he take? You just talked
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  Speaker 1: about player development. I'm gonnak at the cracket. We just
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  Speaker 1: talked about this. Seline Lambert yesterday. What step is Berkeley catting?
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  Speaker 4: God?
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  Speaker 1: To take from a nineteen year old to a twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty one year old next.
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  Speaker 4: Year, and that's what gives you, like promise for the
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  Speaker 4: next year.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you had that in with with
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  Speaker 1: pro sports, Well, Berkeley, it'll be. It was fun seeing
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  Speaker 1: he developed for a year and now it's cool transfer.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're playing for the LA Kings. Awesome. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool. Yeah, we'll start all over again, reconstruct a roster.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know how it's sustainable. I also know
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  Speaker 1: how it's healthy. But I'm asking you get this question
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  Speaker 1: four nine four five one four nine four to five one.
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  Speaker 1: Is it even worth your time to be a college
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  Speaker 1: basketball fan anymore? And that's for Husky fans, Cougar it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We're all the same boat. Hell, I could
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  Speaker 1: be doing this show in Kentucky right now, and you're
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  Speaker 1: a huge college bast I'm a huge college basketball fan
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  Speaker 1: and my I love watching college basketball. I'm just not
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  Speaker 1: invested in my own team anymore, and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I ever will be again unless something changes. John Harlow's
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  Speaker 1: new athletic director wahing State. He will join us coming
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  Speaker 1: up next Don't forget four nine four five one your thoughts, comments, questions,
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  Speaker 1: and concerns.
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  Speaker 1: The two Longs. I heard that great song, way two
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  Speaker 1: long since I heard that great song. Thank you Anders,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Jess. Welcome back in for that's with you
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  Speaker 1: here at noon hour on a Tuesday afternoon Sports Radio
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  Speaker 1: nine three point three KJRFM here in Seattle. I'm joining
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  Speaker 1: us right now in to Beacon Plumbing Hotline. My first
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  Speaker 1: chance to speak to this man. All I hear are
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  Speaker 1: tremendous things. It's got some heavy lifting to do, but
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  Speaker 1: everything I hear so far is all nothing but positive.
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  Speaker 1: He is the new permanent athletic director at Washington State University.
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  Speaker 1: John Harlowe joined us right now. John, Good afternoon, Congratulations,
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  Speaker 1: how are you Ian?
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  Speaker 8: Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited, I'm grateful
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  Speaker 8: appreciate the opportunity to connect.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet you in person. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: all I hear are great things, and it's interesting because
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  Speaker 1: it felt like it took a little while for this
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  Speaker 1: to come to fruition. You took over back in November,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know with President camp Well, if you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's kind of hearing a lot of different things. We
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  Speaker 1: want to do this so that hires somebody from the
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  Speaker 1: outside of the inside. All you did was grind during
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  Speaker 1: this time and you were named the new athletic director
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  Speaker 1: on a permanent basis. What does it mean to you?
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  Speaker 1: What does this opportunity mean to you specifically because you
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  Speaker 1: went from introim to permanent and you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: a rather long process, so it sounds like you had
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  Speaker 1: to kind of work to get here.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it means it means everything to me, quite honestly.
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  Speaker 8: I care so much about this department, this campus, this community.
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  Speaker 8: It's been It's embraced me with open arms in my
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  Speaker 8: family since since I got here. Whatever the outcome was
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  Speaker 8: of this process, I wanted to make sure that we
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  Speaker 8: did everything to set up whatever the next phase was.
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  Speaker 8: I'm so grateful for the team we have got a
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  Speaker 8: We've got a tremendous group of coaches, a tremendous staff
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  Speaker 8: that care a lot about where we are, where we're going.
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  Speaker 8: I think they believe in it too, and to continue
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  Speaker 8: to be with them and partner with them on what
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  Speaker 8: we think is going to be an incredible fall in
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  Speaker 8: a new PAC twelve. I couldn't be more grateful and
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  Speaker 8: more excited.
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  Speaker 1: You came to Washington State in twenty twenty one, so
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  Speaker 1: you saw the best of times in some ways and
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  Speaker 1: then honestly the most challenging and some would say the
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  Speaker 1: worst of times with the demise of the PAC twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Not everybody would want this job. As I mentioned, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of heavy lifting a lot of us me.
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  Speaker 1: I love Pullman, I could live there tomorrow, and I
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  Speaker 1: love Washington State. But not everybody wants to especially in
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  Speaker 1: your business, in your world of athletic directors, not everybody
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  Speaker 1: would want that challenge. Why do you want this challenge?
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  Speaker 1: Why do you want to do something that is going
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  Speaker 1: to be really hard to do in terms of getting
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  Speaker 1: this thing back to where we want it to be.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it is a challenge, But at the same time,
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  Speaker 8: I take great pride in that, and I think the
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  Speaker 8: team is structured in such a way We've got some
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  Speaker 8: growth opportunities there and continue to build that out. But
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  Speaker 8: I think you know, as you mentioned, I got here
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  Speaker 8: year when we were solidified and had a position and
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  Speaker 8: what would be the legacy PAC twelve. And I've seen
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  Speaker 8: what this community is capable of, what Pullman is capable of,
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  Speaker 8: how special Cougar football Saturdays are, and those meant the
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  Speaker 8: world to me and my family when we first got here,
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  Speaker 8: and I took it kind of personal when some of
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  Speaker 8: those things happened to the PAC twelve and to us,
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  Speaker 8: And I believe in the fact that we can get
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  Speaker 8: it back to a place where our former student athletes
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  Speaker 8: and our alumni are proud of and I think that
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  Speaker 8: those opportunities absolutely lie ahead, and so I took that
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  Speaker 8: again very personal that I want to see those my
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  Speaker 8: family wants to see those get back to a place
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  Speaker 8: where the stadium is packed on a Cougar football Saturday
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  Speaker 8: and this community is buzzed, and I believe that we
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  Speaker 8: can get there.
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  Speaker 1: John Harlow joining this new athletic director watching the State University.
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  Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk to President Countwell this
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  Speaker 1: December it was and we had her on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Really impressed with everything that she said. It was during
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  Speaker 1: the process of the head coach leaving our football team
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  Speaker 1: after just one year and the challenges we were going through.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I say, we as Koog's all the way around. And
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: you know at that time you were there, you were
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: the introm athletic director. But President Cantwell struck me as
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: someone who is in it for the long haul, in
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: it for the right reasons, and likes a challenge and
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: also understands that we can get to where we want
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: to be both on campus, academically, enrollment and everything else.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Let me ask about athletics. What about President Cantwell allows
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: you to believe that this is a good job because
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: you're not taking it despite all the things you just
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: told me. You're not taking that if you don't feel
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: like you have the support of upper campus. That hasn't
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: always been the case in Pullman. What is it about
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: President Cantwell that makes you believe that we have the support,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: You have the support as the athletic department does of
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: upper campus.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: She's continually been really vocal about the importance of what
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: athletics is for our institution and how that can grow
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: our brand nationally. An increase enrollment in the New Pact weelve,
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: we have opportunities. Some of our hottest enrollment markets are
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: in the New pac twelve footprint, and she's been very
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: bold in being out there and vocal about how important
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: athletics is to driving this institution further into the future,
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: and that raises the academic boat, that raises our research opportunities, etc.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: I mean, I believe very much that we hold the
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: keys to elevating our brand here in the athletic department.
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: And when she's out there making very confident statements like that,
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: I absolutely put makes my job. When I know that
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: she has our back and the trust and she believes
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: the same thing that we do, that we absolutely can
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: raise the profile of this institution through our competitive fields,
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: makes the conversations I'm having out there a little bit
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: easier because I know that we're aligned and know that
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: she trusts where I am and I trust where she is.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: The job an athletic director feels like it's changed over
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the years, and you can speak to that. And I
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: believe one of the reasons that my understanding is that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: she decided to go with you in this role is
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: because of your strength and fundraising, which we've already seen
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: with football and the locker room and some other things
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: that you have accomplished in a short amount of time.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: What is the job of a present day athletic director.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I know what changes every school. John, Probably it's different
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: here than maybe it is at Michigan or Ohio State
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: or Alabama, but maybe more similar to Colorado State or
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the other teams in the Pac twelve. Maybe it's similar
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to your predecessor over at Washington. I don't know what
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: does a job today. How would you describe the role
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: of an athletic director in today's college athletics.
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a great point, and you know, it continues
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: to evolve, not just over time, but even throughout the
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: course of a day or of a week. You've got
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: to be multifaceted and it's become much more dynamic position. Yes,
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: we have to be out there fundraising, but you also
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: got to make sure that the coaches, the student athletes,
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: and the staff know that you have their back in
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: the contest that they're heading into, the situations that they're
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: heading into. And so it's a very versatile role to
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: be in. But the fundraising and I've seen what the
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: power of the coops can do, and I believe the
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: group that we have here on staff, we've been able
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: to cultivate some really meaningful relationships, and that's in fundraising,
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: that's in partnerships, that's making deals, and those are what
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: we have to continue to leverage and do moving forward
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: in order to get ourself to a place that we
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: have the resources to execute appropriately. And so a lot
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: of my day to day I pop into you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: it's made practices and workouts and competitions as I absolutely can,
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: but a lot of them is building relationships and building
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: opportunities to make deals and partnerships moving forward. And so
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: it's it's an extraordinarily relational day to day.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I want to I'm going to come back to that
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: in a second. I do want to talk about your
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: new football coach and Kirby Moore. Uh my buddy John Canzano.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I heard him on his podcast at John Wilner the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: other day and they were just you know, effusive in
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the praise about Kirby Moore, or maybe they kept referencing
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: how the fact that maybe his alma mater is going
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: to be a little upset when they see this guy
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: hit the field as a head coach that they didn't
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: grab him before before Wazoo, did you oversaw that the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: hiring a Kirby I got a chance to meet him
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: at the queen An Beer Hall, which once you get
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to town, it's owned by a couple of koogs and
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you need to come out here. We'll have a plant
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and hang out together because we had a great night
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: with Kirby. We had a great night with Kirby at
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the beer hall here in the shadow of Climate Pledge Arena,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and it was I mean, he just I've never seen
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: anything like that. He spoke to every fan and took
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: pictures with every fan, look people in the eye, which
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I can tell you honestly, the previous coach didn't. We
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: had him in the studio, didn't look me in the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: eye one time. A weirdest interview I've ever had. And
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: good riddance. But what is it about Kirby Moore that
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: jumped out at you? Besides his football acumen? What was
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it about Kirby that jumped out? Because that is the
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: most important hire any athletic department is going to have
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: at the Division one level.
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: Well, I think nailed and his football pedigree and accomplishments
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: for themselves, but his ability to be personable and engaging.
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: He understands how much Cougar football means to this area,
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: in this region of Washington into the state of Washington.
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: You saw him that night in clean and Beer Hall.
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: I've seen him at eight or nine other stops where
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: he works a room. When I say works a room,
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: he looks everyone in the eye, he shakes their hands,
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: He finds ways to engage him. He doesn't require, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: a handler for lack of a better term, that many
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: other coaches might say, Hey, I needed to go talk
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: to this person. I needed to talk to this person.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: You look over and he's scooted his way into a
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: booth and he's having a conversation with a group of
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: koops and it's like he's known him forever. He and
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: his staff are incredibly authentic and genuine and it has
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: been a really, really good partnership from the jump. So
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: I'm grateful for him and his leadership.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting the last two guys that did that
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in a weird, strange way. Mike Leach was that way.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I did a few events with him, and Mike was
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that way. Now, Mike was eccentric, and you know, Mike
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was Mike was a unique individual. But Mike had no
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: problem talking to anybody. Now, usually it wasn't about football,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with football, but I think a
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: lot of Koogle alums would tell you he did that.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: And of course Mike Price was the same way, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Dobs was too, and those guys all had success at Wazoo.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: So I think that's a big part of it, because
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: there's still a grassroots effort to connect with the community
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: along the way. I can't wait to see what he's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: got in store for him as well. You made the decision,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: along with President Countwell to keep David Riley on board.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: What would you tell Wazoo fans about David Riley that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: would give us hope that maybe that basketball program can
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: get back to where it needs to be. Yeah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: I believe in Coach Riley and what he's done, what
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: he's capable of. It's my job as leader this department
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: to make sure he has the resources to be successful.
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: There's been a lot of instability since he's gotten here,
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: but he's been able to prove success in other seasons
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: and if you look at what he's done in the
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: transfer portals so far this year, we have a lot
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: of talent headed to the Polue next year. It's been
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: really fun to see him fill out his Our group
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: is dedicated to making sure he has the resources into
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: putting him in a position to be successful. It is
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: an extraordinarily tough Pac twelve basketball league that we're headed
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: into next year. He knows that we know that, and again,
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: I think the roster talent that he's built this offseason
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: speaks to his relationship with those student athletes and his
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: ability to put a system in front of them that
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: they believe.
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: That they can win.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: With John Harlow join us Washington State athlet trick. This
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: is a bigger picture on and we were just talking
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: about this in our show a minute ago. I love
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: college basketball. I just I like the sport and our
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Afternoon guy, Dave Softy Maller. Hopefully you won't have to
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: run into him too often, but you will at some point,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and God speed on you that one. But the Softie
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: mentioned something last week on his show, and I feel
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the same way. And he's a Husky fan, and that
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: is this. It's hard to be a college basketball fan
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: more so than college football. College footballs a portal and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: people are moving. But if you're a college basketball fan,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and this is kind of just I'm just curious of
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on where we're going world is probably needed.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I think we all think it's a great thing. Young
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: men and women should get paid for what they're worth
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and whatever they might be worth. It might be a dollar,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it might be one hundred thousand dollars, might be a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: million dollars. Whatever it might be, they should be paid.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: At the same time, when I see players playing for
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: four schools and four years, more so at college basketball
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: than anywhere else, it's hard hard to be a fan.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Is this sustainable? Like? Does do we need to see
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: something happen where it's not four schools and four years?
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: And what can be done? Because me, as a college
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: basketball fan, I don't want to invest in Wazoo basketball
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: because I'm going to pay for a guy to be
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: there for one year and go twelve and nineteen. It
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: just it doesn't seem to make sense. What would you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: tell people like me?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: I get it, truly I do, And it is difficult,
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: especially with a smaller roster composition. The market doesn't make
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: any sense right now for where some of those student
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: athletes are going into the dollar value, the shakeup is
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: definitely more prevalent than than we're seeing in other sports.
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: I do think that there needs to be something done that,
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: and there are continual conversations at the state and federal
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: level about what can we do to minimize the impact,
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: mitigate the transient nature of where we are because it's
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: not healthy, it's not sustainable. It's not healthy for the
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: student athlete, quite honestly, because who are their go tos
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: once they've been at four schools in four years. Who's
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: there to supportive on that once that's done, and if
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: they've even made any academic progress at that point. So
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: those are hot button items that are continually discussed by
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: committees at various levels. And I do think that we're
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: going to get to some sort of change here, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: I don't know what the timeline is. I hope it's
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: sooner rather than later, because I do believe that there
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: needs to be some sort of parameters put in place
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: to control this, because it's not healthy for anyone. At
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: the same time, my job, and I believe our coaches jobs,
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: is while the money is going to talk a little
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: bit to these student athletes, it's certainly a deciding factor
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: in some of their minds. We want to establish a
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: culture here to where it's hard for them to leave
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: that they know that they're supported, they're loved by the community,
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: by the staff, that they're supported in such a way
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: that it is an experience that supports them in all facets. Again,
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: competition classrooms sets them up long term. Well, we can't
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: control the impact of what's the money that may be
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: thrown at them. We can at least impact the culture
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: that what they're in when they're here as a coupe.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: John Harlowe with me a couple more moments. Can Washington
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: State financially compete in the new PAC twelve with everybody else?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And how do they do that? How do we do that?
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: I think that we can, but it's going to require
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: an all hands on deck effort. And I believe we've
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: seen the power of what the coups can do in
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: the past. They show up in the masses. We've got
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: one of the bigger living alumni bases in the PAC twelve,
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: two hundred and fifty thousand strong. We've got to activate those.
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: And that doesn't mean everyone is expected to be a whale.
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: It's just getting involved with the capacity that you can.
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: We've got some extraordinary business owners out there. We've got
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: extraordinary CEOs and CFOs and C suite individuals across our
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: alumni base. They're passionate. We've got to activate them. And
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: it's not just from donations. We've got to I mentioned earlier,
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: We've got to continue to make strategic partnerships that drive revenue,
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: that drive anil opportunities. We've got to fill up our
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: venues because that support leads. That's the gateway to getting
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: involved again. We've got an extraordinary amount of wealth in
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: the state and within our alumni base, and we've got
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: to continue to activate them. That's the ticket moving forward.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you think that's never happened before? I
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: had that conversation with Jake Dickert. That's two years, three
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: years ago, I guess it would have been. And he
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: asked me, as as someone who used to be involved
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit more in some of the fundraising events
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and stuff that I was. He says, what like, I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: always hear there's money, like you just said, John, I
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: always hear that, and then we don't see it. And
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I said to me, you got to have the right
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: people in place. I mean, there's people that were great
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: fundraisers back in the day that aren't with the school anymore.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: But man, there's there's a lot of people that are
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: at a high enough level. You just mentioned it. Business
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: owners help people high enough up in the Fortune five
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: hundred companies. Companies in our state are that are wazoo lums.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like they've never been reached before. How can
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you guys reach those guys? You said, Yeah, there's a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: grassroots need and the collective and all those things, but
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: how do you find a way to get those doors
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: open to the people that really can make a difference financially.
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we've tried to be a lot more aggressive and
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: bold in our approach. That meaning we're getting out across
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: the state, not just the expectation of people getting over
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: here to pullman, but try to meet them where they are,
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: whether that's in southern California or you know, the east
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: coast or certainly the west side of our state. We
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: want to meet them where they are, try to educate
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: people on what the needs are. There's been a cultural shift,
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: not just in the anc DOUBLEA, but even even here,
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: and we've seen some erosion of the donor base as
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: the transient nature of the ANCABAA has changed. And I
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: believe with the group that we have in place, we
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: can re establish some of the those authentic and genuine
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: relationships because they've got a very relatable group in place,
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: and it's gonna come back to their belief in our
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: in our mission of being authentic and genuine and leading
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: the Cups into this new league. And I absolutely believe
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: that it's possible.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot more to get to, but we
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: will do that down the road if we could. Let's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: just make this when when you're over on the West Side,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: when you're in Seattle next and I know you will be.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: As you mentioned, there's doors knock to knock on. There's
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: there's places like Amazon and Microsoft that you that I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: know you're talking to people with. So when you're over here,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: make sure you come in. Let's let's get you in studio.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Let's get you over here. Let's have you swing by,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and I'd love to see you in person in studio,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: love to sit down and have this conversation and some
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: other topics we can jump into as well. But in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the meantime, John, like I said, I hear nothing but
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: good things about you and h and certainly a president
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: can't well as well. So I'm thrilled to have you
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: on board full time. I know a lot of Wazoo
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: fans feel the same way. Congratulations on the new job
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and can't wait to meet you in person over here
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: in the near future. Thank you, sir, Thanks so much.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I and we'll talk to you soon. Gokug's that is
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: John Harlow, new athletic director at Washington State. I think
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: just for for the non Wazoo fans, they're the thing
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: that jumped out. He said it. It's just that the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: where we're at right now is just not sustainable. It
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: just is not It does not work. And that's why
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I brought up Miles Rece earlier. And there's rumors Will
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: in the back at Wazoo, and people say, oh, you're
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be happy he's back there. It's I don't know
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: if he is or not. Don't even really care. I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: find myself just being a fan of the sport, but
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: not a fan of the team that I used to love.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: And I I've suffered through a lot of bad basketball
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: last year watching those guys before I finally gave up,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And but then I'd watch other games and go, God,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the product is so good. Then you know, you see
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: college basketball, you see guys that are sticking around. There's
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: so many players today that are now. I mean they're
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: waiting to see if former Wazoo guy Ruben Chinnelou is
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: sticking around at Florid. If they do, they'll be the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: number one team in the country coming into this season.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: And you said it earlier. They're making money because they
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: can make money, but just chasing an extra buck or
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: two across the country and going to multiple schools over
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: multiple years just does not make sense to me.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that was my big bugaboo when it
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: comes to the future of college athletics.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Is it not being a team sport anymore?
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: So it's you know, and especially it's so prevalent in
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: basketball because it's the smallest amount of people that you
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: have on the court at the same time, so one
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: change makes the difference in everything, and every guy being
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: out there just for himself. I mean, sure you can
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: play really well with other people, but it's not what
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: college athletics was, which is building a team, building relationships
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: everything that John Harlowe was talking about. And I think
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: it also on the football side speaks to how well
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: Kirby Moore has done.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I and you know, it's it's it's hard
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: because and I would just go back to what Softy six.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: It just really resonate with me. And Energy brought this
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: up as well, like player development, watching guys get better
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: over the years is really cool. I'm old, so I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: watched and covered and worked. I was working at Como
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and I covered the ninety one Husky championship team. I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: was with them for I think all but one road
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: game and all the whole like we were with those
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: guys all the time. Como was a Husky partner at
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the time. Television wise, Bruce King did the postgame show.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I put a headset on guys afterwards. It was awesome.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And the fun thing about that is I also remember
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the day that Mark Brunell, Lincoln Kennedy, Steve Epman and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that group came in for their first day freshman day
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: at Washington. We did interviews with those guys and they
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: were kids, they were babies, and then three four years
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: later their national champions They grew with that program. That
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: never happens in today's world. It just doesn't happen. Last
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: year's national champion, Indiana undefeated a great story. They'd never
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: had success f football before. Good for them all transfers,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: yeah right, yeah, And at least in football. Michigan was
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: all transfers this year. Four of the five of the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: top six scores.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Right, And at least in football you can try and
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: you know zag when other teams zig and go the
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Dabos Sweeney route. Oh, we're not gonna do the transfer portal.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: We're not gonna do all that stuff and works out
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: for them.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: And Clemson is not nearly what they used to be
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: because they don't have that new school thought.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: You're right, but even in basketball, you can't even do
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: that now, there's no one that can do that because
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: everyone just answers enters the portal.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Ula A lot UCLA is a tournament team. They lost
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: their starting point guard. Yeah, okay, I went through the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: list of the day. I think out of the top
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: of the Sweet sixteen teams, like all sixteen lost a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: key guy, not to the NBA, but just lost a guy.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I just that, And that's part of the problem because
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: you can't You can't be John Harlowe or the athletic
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: director at Washington or whoever it is and say give
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: me money for anil. We need your donations because where's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that money going help. Let's be honest. The quarterback of Washington.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Doesn't want to be here. He doesn't want to be here.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: He was forced to be here. And I've said this
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: before and I'm gonna say it again. Good on the
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Big Ten. And I don't like saying that makes me
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: want to puke to say good on the Big ten,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to say anything nice about that conference,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: but the Big Ten in Washington said, dude, no, no, you're
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you signed a deal. You signed a deal. But the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: problem is he can still get out of that deal
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: after this year. Yeah, yeah, like the second of season's over,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: decent chance he's out.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: That was one of the most bonkers things I have
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: seen so far. And something else is going to come up, Like.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: You, but that was a good precedent because it was like,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: but as soon as season's over, that you know he
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: wants to be gone. So but like you're saying, he
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: spend some money for what yeh?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: For what right he used to go to?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, but if I knew guys, sorry, if I
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: knew guys are gonna be there for three or four years, right, like,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and I had the money and the donation, and I
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: want to I'm a lot more willing to do so
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: if there was like or even two years and I
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: know I don't want to look at the text line yet.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I will later two thirty. I'm sure we can hear.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: But coaches can do it, Yes they can. But there's
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a buyout. There's always a buyout. There is always a buyout,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and they have to pay a financial price if they leave.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: All right, So anyway, four and four to five one
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: play su Choose on big Thanks John Holo coming in.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Impressive guy. We're gonna we're gonna try something here in
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: a second. Yes, it's so, we're gonna go to confession
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I made. I just had a I wasn't a mortal
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: sin last night, but it was a sin. It was.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: It's great, Well, we need to make show commander.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: It was the sin of hypocrisy, is what it was.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, it was a sin of hypocrisy. We'll talk
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: about that next.
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• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Joe Sheenel join us in about twenty minutes. We'll talk
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: to him about baseball Mariners. The hell's going on? They
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't look at the box real fastandards. Yeah, offensive
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: what they do last night.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: You know, they weren't awful the sport. Four runs they did,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: and all four before one of the night anyway, but
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: they actually, like Josh Naylor, Cal Rowling, and Julio Rodvegez
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: all hit for the first time. Cal had an option
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: field home run he did, Julio got two hits, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Josh Naylor got two hits. So uh. But the thing
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: about their offense is they got the three runs within
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: the first two innings, and it felt like they could
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: have easily put it away, and then they just kind
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: of stopped. It felt like they kind of knew the
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: game was over at that point and stopped taking team
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: at bats, so to speak. They kind of more like,
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: all right, I can just swing away pat my stats
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: It's a little taste of the postcast with Anderson Hurst game. Yes,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that's that's why I ask you, because I was doing
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: other things. So I watched the hockey last night. I
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: was into the hockey.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what were you doing last night? I watched Carolina
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Ottawa Okay, Dawa great game, great game, Edmonton Anaheim, great game, game,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: tuned in in and out of Minnesota and Dallas, and
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: then had.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: The Mariners going as well. By the way, my you
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: you chriped me about my multi view, I tried it. Okay,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's limited on the channels apparently.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah it is, Yes, PIANAA is Yeah, it's stupid.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I kind of I wish you could choose
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: two different That's what I was trying to do. Yeah, yeah,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: because then I would have watched but I, you know,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: back and forth with the Mariners hockey playoffs. Yeah, and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: then I found myself last night, bless me, father, for
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I have sinned. So Edmonton Anaheim NHL playoff game ends,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and I had half a cocktail left.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Is that all?
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: No?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I literally had half a cocktail left, okay, And instead
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: of just powering it down, I said well let's see what.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Oh well, lo and behold there's a game on still
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: not a hockey game, not a baseball game. Erners were
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: already done. Nope, there was an NBA playoff game.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Clutch his pearls.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Bless me, father, for I have sinned. Yes, I'm the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: guy that said I refuse to talk. I said I
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: refuse to talk about the NBA regular season.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: That it's funny the goldposts have moved now.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So like I have been telling you guys, I'm not
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: into this whole nonsense. I can't do it. I texted
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a picture. I was watching Denver in Minnesota last night,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I said. I texted a picture to Jess Nanders said
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: breaking the boycott. Anders. Oh wow, I'm saying you did
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: this on the air tomorrow, no matter how much you
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: diny it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: So I knew you would.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I'm beating you to a punch. This is my confession. Okay,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: this is my is my sports confession. In front of it,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: you're not being I'm very much not Mike Vrabel. I
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: am very much in front of it. I am admitting
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I watched it all. I might even admit the following
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I might have watched a little bit over the weekend
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: as well. What just a little bit, not a lot? Well,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: because I was rooting against the Blazer, So I watched
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: san Antonio kick down, So.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: You enjoyed it?
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Little?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Hate watching you watching? No, I hate watching one hundred percent.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I hate watching.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Who are you hate watching?
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Last night?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I don't like the nugget because it's Denver. Yeah, he's there.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: You know what. I'm anti shockey teams, ANTI have anti nugs.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Let's go. Gotta be nice to have two teams in
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: the playoffs right now. Huh.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a heartbeat. Stand by on
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: that one. We're so yeah. This is my sports confessional.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: Man, I watched.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I watched NBA. I watched about eighty percent of the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter last game. Good game. Uh timberwls down nineteen,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: came back one. Okay, the guy they call ants pretty good? Yeah,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: basketball thirty and ten, Yeah, I have I'll and this
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: is a this is not Mike Rabel. I'm being honest here.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I had watched no more than ten minutes of NBA
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: basketball until last night all year.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, So what are your thoughts? Give us your give
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: us your thoughts.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: So my thoughts are this officiating in that league is
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: an absolute embarrassment. I we all want to complain about
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball umpires, NFL referees not being full time.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I think the NHL guys are the best, although I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: thought they were awful, awful last night in Carolina Ottawa
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: awful And then who's my guy, Ryan Gibbons, former t
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Bird's run the lines? Who they just they were not good,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: But they're the best. It's a tough game to reft,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I think. I think if I'm ranking them NHL number one,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: NFL number two, MLB three, and people are gonna sink,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: what yeah, MLB three? They get more right than they get.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Wrong, especially now at the Challenge system, it's less NBA.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: I don't even know why they're there, Like, why are
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: you guys even here? And they act like the show
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: here's the thing.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: They do their own reviews. So I hang on, let
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: me see you. It was one of the old guys,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: James Capers, who was the guy who was the official
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: last night? Is it not listed here in the box?
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Find that for me? The Tony Brothers brothers, Oh buddy,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you gotta call wrong. Look at the video and admit it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Admit it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: The game itself is just not basketa. It's just all
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: one on one. It's all isolation. It's all one on one.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Playoff basketball is fun. It just
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: is like it just is. It's like everything's it's a whole.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: It's like playoff hockey. Everything's amped up. Everything's that much better.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Now when I have a choice, about ninety percent of
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the time, I'm not watch an NHL playoff game. Yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Number two on that list will be Mariners baseball. Number
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: three will be case in point half a cocktail left.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: NBA playoff, abandoning this cocktail with no sports.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to I'm trying to somehow Father, as
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I give you my sin, I'm asking for forgiveness. I
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: really don't want to have to recite fifty our fathers
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and fifty Hail Mary's. I really don't want to have
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: to do that like back in my days in our
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Lady at Fatima. Oh, I don't want to do that
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Hail Mary full of grace. Anyway, I'm having all kinds
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: of PTSD right now.
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, how many did you have growing up?
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: I had three, two antiques and probably.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Still they're probably still at my mom's house. Yeah, I'm
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: probably still there a bad Catholic. Yeah, and because you
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: had to like the little beads. Every one of those
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: was his prayer, right, one, two, three and all that
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: wasn't it?
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: Was it?
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Each one of those is our father? And then the
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: big ones was the hail marriage. Is it flipped?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: It might be flipped. I'm not sure.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: It was just using to count because he's a.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Hoft, he's an expert on the follow and the last
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: came in three o'clive.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what I would like is ideas from
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: our listeners on what our penance could be.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: No, rather than my penance is telling you guys, he
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't want anyone tell Penance.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Listen my pen This is not you guys telling me
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: to go do X, Y or Z like you know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: father level getting out in front of it. I'm getting
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: out in front of it because Andrews are gonna sell
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: my ass. He was one hundred percent to sell me out, dude,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm not listen. I understand. I would have done
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the same thing if you. If I would have got
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: a similar text from you or you, I would have
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: said I'm selling you out tomorrow.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: If I would have said I'm rooting for the Edmonton Oilers.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: You would have been like, I am selling you.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is confession, right now. Put the music on again.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Where's the music? Get me that music out, Get me
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: that music. Get me that music. All right? You're you're
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: you went to Seattle. You that's a good Jesuit school, sir. Sure,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: it's a great Jesuit school. You were kind of rooting
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: for the Oilers last night. No, yes, you were. I
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: could tell the text chain. Admit, buddy, this is confession.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not not lying.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: I swear to God. I like watching Connor McDavid as
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: a hockey player.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I want the Oilers to the playoffs
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: better with Connor McDavid, Yes they are. Would they be
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: better if he got to the second round?
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, if you're looking at it from an objective viewpoint.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: But I am not objective, sir. I am a subjective
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: sports fan who hates the Edmonton Oilers and their fans.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, I was reading between the lines
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: on that last night, and I know you were. You
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: were one hundred percent you wanted to hear Pink Pony
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Club play after the game, which is their their winning anthem.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: They play in Edmonton, of all places, the most blue
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: collar city and what Canada. Yes, they played Pink Pony
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Club out there.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: They have a no I think it was because last
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: year they played it and they went on this run.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: They want to Yeah, yeah, so they they have they
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: have an outdoor viewing party and all these things and
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: they're all dancing a Pink Pony club and it's.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: It's hilarious.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: It's and they're a bunch of funny and they're a
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: bunch of oil rig works.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Just like as blue collar as That's what.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Makes it kind of fun, right, But you know what
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I do like that?
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, that's I'm gonna get.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: I'll give you.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Here's the deal. We'll find the time. We got this
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: whole new show thing. We got to figure out extra hour.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: We'll find a date we're gonna do. We'll do sports
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Confessions once a week. All right, Yes, we're gonna find
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: we can't do it every day, We'll do it once
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: a week or as needed as needed. I think if
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: someone decides they're going to sell somebody out, I need
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: to go back and go through this our multiple text
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: threats we have because I know there's something in there
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: from either Bento, Oh yeah, Nathan or Crawford or you yeah,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I listen. I unlike Mike Creable, I got ahead of
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it today. I got one hundred percent ahead of it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: But I watched the NBA and I didn't hate it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't hate it, didn't hate watch the Nuggets and Timberls.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: Part.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: It was the Nuggets losing. You know, it's weird too.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I root for them a couple of years ago when
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: they won it all the Nuggets, I think why, I'll
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: tell you why. It's Yeah, it goes back to what
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you said about with David. I just love the joker.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I like the guy that looks like me out there.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Just I mean, he's just he is just.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Better than he likes.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't like that, doesn't like I get to
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: go home now.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: After they wanted, I gonna go home now, come done.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: One time.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Most guys lifelong dream. I want a championships, a ring. Yeah,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: now I gotta go home. Yeah. Do you see his brother?
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: His brother almost got a fight with a dude the
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: other night. I love I know, but the one guy
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: was like leaning over the sweep.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I would not mess with those guys.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Straight up, like a serbian gang members.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, roll into the arena with their floor suits and
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: all that, and it's just like, yeah, fella, I love.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: All right, that's it for today. By my confession has done.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Four nine four five one. If you want to chime
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: in four nine four five one, that's Takoma Dodge text line.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Also will Yeah, we'll take some talkbacks as well. We
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: love those.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Jus tell us where we need to confess on. You know,
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Ian will not accept it, but I will.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is we gotta just nip this thing
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: in the butt.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: It's all done.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: We're good. We're good. I did watch it last night.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: And actually, what are the games tonight? Hang on, just
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: real quick, hang on, hang her NHL, NHL, I already know.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Uh in NBA, tonight's Tuesday, right, seventy six or Celtics.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: It's a good game.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: See.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I like Mike, so I can't really root against the Celtics.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Jess not so much. But I like Mike.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: She's a Knicks fan.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: She not.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I'm a Celtics fan. You were always no, I was not.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I grew up soft Againts, Jets, Islanders.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: He gave me crap because I grew up in New
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: York and I'm a Celtics fan.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: He told me I couldn't be.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay, that's but no.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: I wrote it for the Pacers growing up because I
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: hated the Knicks, because I hated.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Their I like the Celtic sixer. They got got it
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: quits on them all the time, all right, So, uh, Blazers,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Blazer spurs, anyone but the Blazers. Anybody but the Blazers.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: We gottaet. We might get into that a little later
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: on too. They got they got some issues. Man, Tom Condon,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: their owner. Did I not tell you? Did not foreshaddle
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: that one might be the worst owner in sports?
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: That's bad.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: That's bad, bad Rockets Lakers.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: Kevin Durant s and he has a sore knee and
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: uh what not playing?
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: What a candy ass? You guys, everyone that wants to
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: worship him at the aultar of Kevin Durant here because
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: he play one bad year in Seattle and not his
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: bad year, just one bat like the last year. I'm
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: not buying in on that ever, just will not. I
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: heard softest in the day. I don't care about Paul
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Van Carroll, even though he's a Seattle guy. I get
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that you know what. I don't care about Vin Durant.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: He played one year here and what are you doing
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: you man? Dudes in the NHL are getting their faces
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: broken open and they come out like two minutes.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Later they get stitched on the bench. Yeah, he's load
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: managing in the playoffs. Her.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I can't, honestly, I can't. I know that is not
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: That's not it. All right, Joshi enjoyed us. He's not
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: load managing. Make sure his phone works today. Okay, all right,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: that's next.
• 50:43
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  Speaker 1: Shean, Joe she and Joshian Newsletter Joe Sheia dot Com
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  Speaker 1: of moments. Hello, Joe Shean, how are you my friend?
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: Good brother? What's going on here?
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Baseball talk here in this town. We've got a lot
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: of Dan Wilson hate going on. We'll get to that
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: in a second. Let's let's look elsewhere as somebody else's
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: having issues because you happen to be in their neighborhood.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, Jess, who are you a fan of?
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: Definite? Joe?
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: How do you lose eleven straight games in baseball? In
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: today's world? How do the New York Mets possibly lose
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: eleven straight games? What the hell's going on there?
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: I guess I could paraphrase Sady Biaserros right, I miss
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: I miss I miss I miss uh Yeah, your best
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: player gets hurt and crippled the offense and then a
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: lot of other things go wrong. You go back to
• 52:03
  Speaker 9: It's is April fourth in San Francisco. Wan Soto left
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: the game. At the end of that game, the Mets
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: were four and four, and they're three and eleven. Since then,
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: they were scoring four and a half runs a game.
• 52:14
  Speaker 9: Now they're scoring two and two and a half. Without
• 52:17
  Speaker 9: one guy doesn't usually make that much difference in baseball,
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: but SODA's one of the five best hitters in the sport,
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: and you combine that with the fact that most of
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: the guys David Stearns picked up this winter, Marcus Semi
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: and Bobashd Jorge Pelonco haven't hit it all. Their rookie
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: Carson Benz hasn't hit. Some of the other hitters that
• 52:35
  Speaker 9: they brought along in recent years, Mark Bientos, Sprett Baty.
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: It's just a team that's not hitting. So that's really
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: the biggest thing. The pitching has basically been average. Code
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: I send, you've gotten knocked around, but everybody else has
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: been pretty decent. No one the claim's been great, but
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: they just can't score runs.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: We the great Philosopher Crawford Christopher Crawford pointed out to
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: us yesterday that we are now because we like to say,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you know, when is it not early anymore? In a
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: base ball season, A lot of times people use the
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: comparisons to a football season NFL season of seventeen games.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I think we're now two games into an NFL season
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: in general terms, Joe, when do you start? I mean, listen,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the Mets at seven and fifteen with eleven straight losses,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: but sobto coming back probably on Wednesday helps them out
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit along those ways. Kansas City struggling mightily
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: at seven and sixteen. Of course, the Rockies we don't
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: care about because that's who they're going to be.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: The Giants.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: So at nine and thirteen with their college manager there
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: from Tennessee, when do you really start worrying? Like, when
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: is it time to start to panic, especially if your
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: team that had high expectations, maybe Toronto or Boston both
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: sitting at nine and thirteen, When do you start really
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: worrying about.
• 53:39
  Speaker 9: Things later than you think it should. I'm always going
• 53:46
  Speaker 9: to consider what was the talent level of team at preseason?
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: What do we think what is their actual talent level?
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: The Reverend the record just doesn't really matter all that much.
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: It's Patrick debuk Obert Baseball Perspectives who's pointed out that
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: in terms of predictive now, preseason expectations are more predicted
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: through about the end of July than the actual performance
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: of the team. That's how long it takes.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: Realistically, we did this for a living. You can't really
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: wait that long. But I would say that you know,
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: April twentieth, twenty first, whatever today is, is way too early.
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: Twenty games is too early. The in season variants of teams,
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: I want to get them. It's phrase, it's right, the
• 54:26
  Speaker 9: in season variants of teams. Whatever you think it is,
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: it's wider than that. Good teams can go seven and thirteen,
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: Bad teams can go thirteen and seven, fourteen and six.
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: What have you. So, as far as you know, how
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: am I concerned about any of these teams? Not by
• 54:41
  Speaker 9: their record. I'm concerned about the fact that the Astros
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: have had like seven key injuries and sixty percent of
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: their their rotation is on the eye olt. The Blue
• 54:50
  Speaker 9: Jays basically have ninety percent of that problem. Kirk is out.
• 54:55
  Speaker 9: They have done short springers out as well, plus a
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: bunch of pictures that to me is real. Or take
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: the other side of it. If I didn't think, you know,
• 55:02
  Speaker 9: whatever I thought of the Tigers coming into the season,
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: the fact that they put Kevin McGonagall on the roster
• 55:07
  Speaker 9: and he's playing well, that is a slight upgrade for them.
• 55:10
  Speaker 9: So our players changing your are teams changing your perception
• 55:14
  Speaker 9: of them based on who they're playing or who they're
• 55:17
  Speaker 9: not playing. I think there's information to be gleaned in
• 55:19
  Speaker 9: the first three weeks. But if you get just so
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: caught up in the standings, you're missing the forest or
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: the trees.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: A team that is below five hundred but offensively impressive.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: They've scored one hundred and seventeen runs. I know you
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: wrote about them with their game with the Yankees. Who
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: and what are the Los Angeles Angels?
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: Jill?
• 55:38
  Speaker 9: You know they've up created the rotation a little bit. Devers,
• 55:41
  Speaker 9: who's left the prospect for them for a while, ended
• 55:44
  Speaker 9: up in the bullpen last year. Fitchwell, they put him
• 55:45
  Speaker 9: back in the rotation. He's been affected. Took the loss
• 55:48
  Speaker 9: last night, but you look at him, you look at
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: yuse Kikuchi and Jack o'conowitz. Has been kind of a
• 55:54
  Speaker 9: surprise to me. But the big story there is how
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: was they sorry on? If we were giving out awards today,
• 55:58
  Speaker 9: which we shouldn't do, because twenty games in Jose Soriano
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: would be the American League sided ward, where you're talking
• 56:04
  Speaker 9: about a right hander, not an overpowering guy, but it
• 56:07
  Speaker 9: goes this heavy, heavy taskball that gets a lot of
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: round balls. That's really been a secret getting here right.
• 56:13
  Speaker 9: That looks like my body was going say a body
• 56:15
  Speaker 9: mass index, but that's not right, but he doesn't say
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: contray well, but you've got that. You've gone an offense
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: has been very good. The Mike Trout returned. You know,
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: I was down at the ballpark last Thursday. I got
• 56:24
  Speaker 9: to see him in a homer that still has the
• 56:26
  Speaker 9: land landed. Just absolutely a bomb. He had a great
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: series here in New York. He's going to be a
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: different player now. You know, the speed isn't quite there.
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: He's playing center, he probably shouldn't be playing center. But draws, walks,
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: hits for power. To me, when I looked at Trout
• 56:39
  Speaker 9: a couple of years ago, I said, okay, now you
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: can go into the Frank Robinson stage in his career
• 56:43
  Speaker 9: where I thought the longevity would be there. Just has
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: a different type of hitter. You know, maybe he'd beat
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: like a Nelson Cruz hid and that's where I think
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: he could get to. Now where he's going to draw, walks,
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: hit for power and you know, maybe the only hit
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: two forty to fifty, but the walks in the power
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: are going to make them valuable. So he stay on
• 57:00
  Speaker 9: the field. I think it can still be that guy.
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: And then you know Nola Shanwell veach Nido's you know,
• 57:04
  Speaker 9: an underrated player Joe Adell. Obviously we saw the three wins.
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: I don't have to tell you guys about Joe.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Adell, right, nope, but really it's bad.
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: He's not really a great defensive player. But the bat's
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: obviously come around the last couple of years. So you know,
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: I had them as the worst thing in the American
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: League coming in. They might be better than that. They're
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: not a contender. They're not a team that's going to
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: make the playoffs. The Bulten is just really really bad,
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: and that's gonna they really clip them a little bit.
• 57:30
  Speaker 9: The back of the rotations were questionable, the bottom of.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: The batting order.
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: But you know, there's this is what I mean, like
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: a team that isn't very good can play over five
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: hundred for you know, a month. At times. It's just
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: we got to understand that it's not a team that
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: we projected to go six hundred. It isn't going to
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: just go three and two every couple of every five
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: games for an entire season. The variance of these teams is.
• 57:52
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• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Joe Shian, who is on the ground floor of today's
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: modern baseball statistics back in the day. So I'm gonna
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: ask you this question refresh my memory. Does Joe Cian
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: ever look at run differential? And should we ever look
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: at run differential?
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Ah?
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: Sure, I mean it's going to be actually more informative
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: than than record over a large sample over three weeks. Again,
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: it's something that can really screw you up. If you
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: win or lose a game sixteen to one and you
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: only plus twenty games, that's going to have a disproportion
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: of effects and run the cential. I am more inclined
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: to look at something like sand grass and base runs record,
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: which is saying, Okay, look at all the elements that
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: went into your performance. How good do you look? How
• 58:57
  Speaker 9: good are you? You mentioned baseball perspectives. Cli Avinport was
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: one of the founding members of Baseball Respectors. So while
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: with Gary Huckabee and he has a site like played
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: edmport dot com where he calculates third order record, it's
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: the same thing. It's how what are the things that
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: went into your record? How strong was your schedule? How
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: good have you been at converting doubles, triples, homers into runs?
• 59:18
  Speaker 9: And that acceptive. So third order record at playdeedinport dot
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: com it is probably the first place I'm going to
• 59:24
  Speaker 9: look to see whether teams are performing two expectations as well.
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: Put this our teams. Is a team's record deceptive or
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: an accurate representation of how well it's played.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: It's a good point. I'm coming from the world of hockey.
• 59:39
  Speaker 10: We do that.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Save percentage for goalies used to be a really big thing,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: and it's still something that a lot of people use.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: You look at it's it's like batting average in the
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: sense and like you show the goalie stats at the
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: start of a broadcast and it's like save percentage nine
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: oh five, whatever it might be. And yet that doesn't
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: always because of the sample size. It doesn't always. You
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: could you could have a game where you face ten
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: shots and made ten you're a thousand, You're perfect right,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: like you're along the way. You can also have a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: game where you give up like four power play goals
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: but you make eight great saves. It doesn't always reflect
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: what you do. Andrews, you want to chime in, Yeah.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: I just looked at the website that Joe is mentioning there.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: He has the Mariners as the best record in the
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: American League and only only record better than that as
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: So wow, So Joe explain that because I'm looking at
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: a team that's ten and fourteen, help me out.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: I don't have to place the site in front of me,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 9: but I know that the Mariners have actually outscored their
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: opponents this year, which is any part of that equation,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 9: it's but it's also you know, they're not converting, they're
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 9: not getting as many runs out of their run elements.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 9: They're maybe not hitting as well as runners of scoring position.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 9: So you know, you have situations where you have a
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 9: really good game at the plate, but you only get
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 9: two runs at it. And then the other thing might
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: be the schedule, So that's probably also a factor in there.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 9: But I will say that, you know, I trust obviously
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 9: we're not going to put teams in the playoffs basically
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 9: the their order record. But if I'm trying to figure
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 9: out who's good, it is not, that's really the first
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 9: I'm going to right now show me the third order
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 9: record as opposed to say their actual record, because I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: think that you know, whether it's a football mindset or
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: just an athlete mindset. I there's a few ways to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 9: look at this in but we don't really accept very
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 9: well that a record isn't always be an indication of
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 9: how good you are. Right, talk about record in one
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: run games, right, the Reds have started out the year
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: six and oh one run games. They've also won the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: three and zero ex rating games like that has an
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 9: impact on your record that maybe isn't entirely reflective of
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: how good you are as a team, because we have
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 9: the good teams don't play a streating games. Good he
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 9: just beat you six to one. That's kind of the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 9: saber metric argument is that your one run record is
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 9: influenced a little bit by fortune and balances, whereas your
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 9: record is blowouts is a great indication of how good
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 9: a team you actually are, So third or a record
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 9: kind of collects all of that information. And spits it
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: out in the form of well a record.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: It's interesting you bring that up because reds I was jumping.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: They kind of their record jumps out EIF in and eight.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: They lead the Central Division, yet they're minus three in
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: run differential. The A's lead the Al West twelve and eleven.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: They're the only team in the West it's above five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Their run differential is minus seventeen. Like, yeah, so again
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  Speaker 1: small sample size, Like you said, we're twenty three, twenty
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  Speaker 1: four games in, not not quite even a full calendar month,
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  Speaker 1: yet getting close, But yeah, those those numbers can skew
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  Speaker 1: a little bit along the way. So it is an
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  Speaker 1: interesting way to look at anders. You were looking up
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  Speaker 1: something to what he got.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got marriage are twenty fifth and average with
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  Speaker 4: running his runners in scoring.
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  Speaker 1: Position they are, which is what Joe just meant. I
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  Speaker 4: On base percentage, they're a little bit higher seventeenth for
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  Speaker 4: an OPS that is twenty third, so they're in the
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  Speaker 4: bottom third of the league. And runners in scoring positions stats.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is what you said, Joe, kind of a
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  Speaker 1: better indication they're just not getting guys in, right, That's
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's probably been a problem for them.
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  Speaker 9: So far, and that doesn't always balance out. It's seen
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 9: twenty of seasons where you know, a team goes that's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 9: supporters of scoring position or a team doesn't. And frankly,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 9: that's one of the things that can make you get
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 9: into the playoffs or this is the playoffs. That doesn't
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: always even out for a full season. We do know
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 9: that it's not a skill over and above hitting, and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: this is the fight about kluts that we've been having
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  Speaker 9: for since I was in very great it feels like,
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  Speaker 9: but you know, it's incredibly important to perform in those
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 9: high leverage spots, but at the same time, there's no
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  Speaker 9: necessary skill in performing in a high leverage spots. So
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 9: it's kind of this this contradiction that this kind of
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 9: tension that we've have between traditional fandom and stadhead. What's
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 9: that will tell you? But you know, I'll tell you myself,
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  Speaker 9: and even if there's no skill in it, there's a
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  Speaker 9: sure a heck of a lot of value.
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  Speaker 1: Joshi and Jonay's Joshian Newsletter. You haven't written about it,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think yet, But have you seen the controversy
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  Speaker 1: of the Cubs complaining about that.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, he's all over it. Since you know,
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  Speaker 9: this is a rule that they put in for the
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  Speaker 9: twenty twenty three season, so it's good to see Craig
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  Speaker 9: getting on it here in the middle of twenty forty six.
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  Speaker 1: Explain to people what it is and why people were upset.
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  Speaker 9: When the designated hit a rule first came into place
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  Speaker 9: in nineteen seventy three. The rule was that you could
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  Speaker 9: the pitcher could hit or your DH could hit, but
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  Speaker 9: they could not actually u occupy the same playoffs. In
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  Speaker 9: other words, if you took her for some reason, your
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  Speaker 9: DH went into the field, which you see, you know
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  Speaker 9: every now and then the game, your pitcher then went
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  Speaker 9: into the lineup and we're tied together. You couldn't have her,
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  Speaker 9: you couldn't have the DH. They go into the field,
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  Speaker 9: and then your picture would go along. So basically they
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  Speaker 9: created this rule for Shoho Tani after the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 9: two season. Remember he played in the American League and
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  Speaker 9: he never played the field with the Angel so this
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  Speaker 9: really didn't come up very often. But to sign with
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  Speaker 9: the Dodgers in the National League, we're going to have
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  Speaker 9: the full DH rule. They basically changed the rule to
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  Speaker 9: say that any picture really could start the game as
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  Speaker 9: pitchers slash DH, and if he left the game as
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  Speaker 9: a pitcher, he was allowed to stay in the game.
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  Speaker 9: Parallel to that be clarified or created. Basically, this idea
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  Speaker 9: of a two way player on a roster. So right
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: now you have a massive of thirteen pitchers on a roster,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 9: but because the Dodgers can classify Otani as a hitter,
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  Speaker 9: they effectively get a fourteenth pitcher on their roster. Now
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: everybody can do this, but of course there's one show
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  Speaker 9: show Heo Tim You know, guys like Michae Lorenzen, you
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 9: know haven't really pitched or hit well enough. I don't
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  Speaker 9: think Lorenza's actually do not have played about four years.
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  Speaker 9: But the idea was that teams could have two way players.
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  Speaker 9: But there's really only one Otani, So this effectively becomes
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  Speaker 9: just a rule for Otonas. So, yes, the Dodgers basically
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  Speaker 9: get to carry an extra reliever because Otani doesn't actually
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  Speaker 9: count as a pitcher for them or is it an advantage? Yes,
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  Speaker 9: I personally wish they hadn't changed the rules. I didn't
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  Speaker 9: love making a rule for effectively one guy. I think
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  Speaker 9: that's the road to help. But I also think this
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  Speaker 9: has been the rule for three and a half years now,
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  Speaker 9: and a pret council wanted to complain about it. Epril
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  Speaker 9: twenty twenty three was a time to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Well said, before I let you go, just to get
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  Speaker 1: your insight real fast. Mariners finished up with the A's
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  Speaker 1: tonight and tomorrow. Then they had to Saint Louis this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: a team that I thought kind of was fire sailing,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: but they've had a strong start to the season or
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: four above five hundred. They're run defferential. Isn't good though,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: but who and one of the Saint Louis Cardinals at
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  Speaker 1: Mariners fans will see this weekend.
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  Speaker 9: We may get fire sale and they're not looking to
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  Speaker 9: really contend this week. And they're another team that probably
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: a bit of a mirage early on, a bit like
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  Speaker 9: the Angels. Jordan Walker, who has been a young hitter,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 9: came up as a prospect three years ago, hit well,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 9: really didn't hit the last two years a bit of
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  Speaker 9: a disappointment. Has had a great start to the season
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 9: eight homers, finding a big guy and really good power.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 9: The basketball hasn't always been there. The ground ball rate
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 9: has been really what has eaten him up. He's really
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 9: turns on this year, great story after a great start.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: They've got up the middle. They're very strong defensively. You've
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: got Mason Win a shortstop, Victor Stotton center, JJ Weatherholt
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 9: of the National League version of Kevin McGonagall, but he's
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 9: not hitting as well. He's moved from short over the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 9: second because of Nason Winn. That is a strong defense.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 9: Up the middle, they don't really get well. They are
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 9: kind of figuring it out on the corners now. Nolan Gorman,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 9: who's been around forever, hasn't really gotten off to a
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 9: good start. Large Lucar hasn't even played yet. He's been
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 9: there left fielder. They've got Evon Horrera who came up
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: as a catcher mostly DH last year and now they're
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 9: trying to integrate him back into catching catch about once
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 9: a week right now. There's a lot of talent there
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 9: and one of the things they're trying to do this
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 9: year is figure out who are we going forward with
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 9: and who do we have to trade time. Bloom took
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 9: over there last year, basically last winter, and he's trying
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 9: to turn over the pitching development. They traded for a
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 9: lot of live arms, Taylor Clark from the Red Sox
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: being the top one. They drafted a kid last year
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 9: named Liam Doyle in the first round. He's going to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: eventually get to the major leagues. It's a product, it's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: a process. I think they're a fun team to watch
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 9: if they will enjoy watching this weekend, but they're not
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 9: as good as their record. They will end up a
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 9: seller at the deadline. But you're looking at a team
• 1:08:00
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  Speaker 1: Right, David, play your home for the crack of the
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  Speaker 1: night three point three KJR FM man I was, I
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  Speaker 1: NHL team and it's not in the playoffs. Games last
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  Speaker 1: night were so good. Yeah. Games to night promised to
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  Speaker 1: be really good as well. Canadians have an early one
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  Speaker 1: nothing lead in the series against Tampa. That'd be a
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: bit of an upset game two tonight. Sabers incredible comeback
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  Speaker 1: over the Bruins. They won nothing. That's a game tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Golden Knight's doing everybody a favor by beating Utah. I
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  Speaker 1: know people here don't like the Golden Knights.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot stand the narrative that's erroneous about the Mammoth
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  Speaker 1: in their second year. They've been building this team for
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: twenty years. They tanked it for four Shut up, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: They're the Thunder, the mammoth of the Thunder. If you
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  Speaker 1: want to, if you want a team to root against,
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  Speaker 1: the Utah Mammoth are the Oklahoma City Thunder.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that'll put a stamp on it.
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  Speaker 1: And I love Utah, man, I love my time there.
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  Speaker 4: You think it's a good hockey market.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a great hockey market. I love my
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  Speaker 1: time there. Child was born there, many friends still there.
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  Speaker 1: I could go back. That's one of the team is
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch too. That's a team that's a place
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  Speaker 1: I could go back, honestly and live. Even though I'm
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  Speaker 1: not of the faith and they don't like me because
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  Speaker 1: of that, I know, seriously, I I but this. They're
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  Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Thunder. They've benefited from another team tanking
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of years, good young players, good young
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  Speaker 1: draft picks. And the thing is with you with Mammot,
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  Speaker 1: they'll be able to keep those guys around. This is
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  Speaker 1: and Obaka and everybody else gonna leave. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: just a great combat field. Think about that when you're
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  Speaker 1: when you're rooting against the Golden Knights. We don't like
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  Speaker 1: the Golden Knights. They got two t birds on it though,
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  Speaker 1: Shy and Kegan, so we're like, we're okay, don't love
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  Speaker 1: their goalie, No, Carter Hart's not a great human being.
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  Speaker 1: No Kings and Avalanche and Night also sold four games tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this big game day for us. Tomorrow, we'll
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  Speaker 4: What does that mean to you?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. They're insistent on the two of them
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  Speaker 1: doing it together. Interesting, so we'll carry that for you
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  Speaker 1: Live at ten and walso have those guys on the
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  Speaker 1: show tomorrow together I think together. So that's fine. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I decided, oh man, I'm having I feel bummed. We
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  Speaker 1: got this team's got to get back to the playoffs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't it. They have to get back to the
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  Speaker 4: See it's weird because for so much sorry Jess, but
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  Speaker 4: for so much of the year I was like, see
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to just get in, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean? But now, looking at the matchups, I would
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  Speaker 1: The thing is is stuff can happen in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: like their upsets can happen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and we got such exciting series when they were in.
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  Speaker 2: They were so fun. Seven games.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Look at Montreal. Montreal might upset Tampa.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that's true.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good young team.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't want to just do it for one year,
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  Speaker 4: and I want to have a window, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean, a contention window.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Jerry to Poto, Okay, it's sustainable. Yeah, somebody get
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  Speaker 1: fourteen on the season game tonight the Rock. Luis Castillo's
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  Speaker 1: on the mound and some dude named Jacob Lopez. Mike
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  Speaker 1: Vrabel says he's had quote difficult conversations with people that
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  Speaker 1: I care about. Over Diana Russini photos, I'm sure you have.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin joins NBC is NFL studio analysts for Sunday
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  Speaker 1: Night Football. It's a nice upgrade over Tony Dungee. That's
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: actually a great upgrade to Tony Dungee. Billy Donovan down
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  Speaker 1: steps down as the Bulls head coach after six seasons
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  Speaker 1: as well. Wan Soto should be back on Wednesday with
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  Speaker 1: the Mets. They've lost how many inter row Jess, I
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Bobby Mack fired up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine what we got?
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  Speaker 4: What we got? He's wait, what I know? Hit the open,
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  Speaker 4: Mike any hit the open.
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  Speaker 10: Welcome to Ian's Weekly visit with John Lund Unleashed. He's
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  Speaker 10: a Bay Area media icon who's known Ian for over
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  Speaker 10: twenty five years. But don't let their age change your
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  Speaker 10: opinion of them. John takes you through the Bay Area,
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  Speaker 10: en the NFC West and dupes it out with the
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  Speaker 10: Inn over, the.
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  Speaker 6: Niners and the Hawks.
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  Speaker 4: So let's unleash it now with John Lund.
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  Speaker 6: Here's Ian.
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  Speaker 1: Oh what's going on in this world? When you, sir,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: when you are on time again?
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  Speaker 4: You know what I think it is?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: It's this new world you're living in. You got the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: sunshine of Arizona, right, So you're just kind of chilling.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So you know I was. I was walking around and
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  Speaker 3: I knew you guys were gonna call at two o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought, you know, I don't want to be
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: known as mister reliable. You know, I'm not cal ripkin here. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, how should I pick up? And so
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  Speaker 3: I'm staring at the I'm staring at the two oho
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  Speaker 3: six number, and I'm thinking to myself, like do I
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  Speaker 3: pick up?
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  Speaker 1: Do I not? Do I make them a little nervous.
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  Speaker 3: Like because because now if if if I keep being
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  Speaker 3: reliable like this, then the bit's over and I don't
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  Speaker 3: want the bit to be over.
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  Speaker 1: But then the other thing is too, is I'm not
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  Speaker 1: really reliable.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just on like a three week you know, heater,
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  Speaker 3: which I've been on like three week venders before, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know that I've been this reliable.
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  Speaker 3: So I did pick up because I felt guilty about it.
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  Speaker 3: But I was like, I can't be on time again,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Like there's gotta be they got to be a little
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: bit nervous. But I picked up.
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  Speaker 1: What's the longest bender you've been on. Mine's fifty years.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still in the midst of it. Yeah, you got
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  Speaker 1: to get some counseling, man, I know, to get some counseling.
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  Speaker 1: I'm listening. I got lots of going on, buddy, don't
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: worry about it. I'm good. I'm all good.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's all the golfing.
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  Speaker 3: Like the more you golf and then you're out golfing
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  Speaker 3: and you gotta drink. Like there's certain situations where.
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  Speaker 1: I squeeze eighteen holes out with I squeeze eighteen holes
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  Speaker 1: out on Saturday. Didn't have one, didn't have one beer?
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  Speaker 1: Not one?
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  Speaker 7: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Why? Who would do that? Well? As a guest at
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: a country club. So you know it wasn't like there
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  Speaker 1: was a beverage cart running around or you know that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't probably rep Now I might have had a country
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  Speaker 1: club doesn't have around run afterwards. Soft it's softiest country club.
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  Speaker 1: What do you expect? I don't know. I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 1: it's good play, golf played well. We know, first thing
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  Speaker 1: I did had a boddies off of from Georgetown right
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  Speaker 1: after the grounds over, so it's all good. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I might have had there might have been a
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  Speaker 1: little nicotine or something involved. I don't know, it could
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  Speaker 1: have been that going on.
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  Speaker 3: Like I mean, more than anything else is that you
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  Speaker 3: don't carry a flask like I mean, I have a
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  Speaker 3: I have a gigantic flask in my golf bag. There's
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  Speaker 3: no at no point I need to relax a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: We have a we have we have the Wednesday Night
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  Speaker 1: Birdie bottle in there. It's a mix of Makers. It's
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  Speaker 1: a mix of Makers Mark because it's cheap, and butterscotch
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  Speaker 1: and butterscotch uh schnops. You ever had that?
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  Speaker 3: Mixtastic and I'll drink about any No, it's fantastic, trust me.
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  Speaker 1: Whiskey and butterscotch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, have you had that?
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  Speaker 6: Try it?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, it's a great, it's a great, it's a great.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the bag. It's in my it's in my flask,
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  Speaker 1: in my bag. It's if on the rare occasion that
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  Speaker 1: a birdie happens with the group I'm in. And although
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: it did happen with last week, we didn't hit it
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  Speaker 1: because it was my buddy Darren's good but uh like
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  Speaker 1: our normal group. Yeah, no, it's it's it's there. It's
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  Speaker 1: ready to rock and round. Yeah. I went to Total
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  Speaker 1: Wine like last week, a rock and roll all year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll put that in.
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  Speaker 3: I'll put that in the bag.
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  Speaker 1: I usually have straight whiskey in there. But I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Some people need a little bit, you know, you need
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  Speaker 1: to back off a little bit. Well, if you're playing
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: with somebody good, you might have more than one, so
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: you might want to kind of tone it down a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, right, Yeah, you know, I don't play like
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  Speaker 1: one of the guys I play with. You're gonna find
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: this weird are better than me, uh like everybody. So
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: actually that's not the case. There's a couple of guys
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: on better than your bag. That's why they're better than Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, do I beat the kid? I beat
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  Speaker 1: the kid on Saturday. That's all that matter. Oh that's
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: not exact, that is all that matters. Well, it's it's
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: we're fifty to fifty right now, like he'll The problem
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  Speaker 1: is he hits it so far that he just kind
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  Speaker 1: of looks, you know, nice was out of three woods,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, dude, it was a driver. You
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: said it was a driver, and it's gonna be over
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  Speaker 1: your head in a minute.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, but o.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite line to him is it's like, that's a
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: great shot there, monkey uh, but that bogie kind of
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: sucks after you hit it that far. Huh, Like or
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: a double yeah? No short game, yeah, power baby, no
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  Speaker 1: short game. Off it's a line hands. It's like, dude, yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: but all right, John Lone joins us. How is Arizona?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: It's good.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm still kind of doing back and forth.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing I'm doing both because I got it. I
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: still got a gig going with the forty nine ers,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: but decided to go down to the Sunshine too, So
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: I got it. I got a bunch of different stuff
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  Speaker 3: going on. I got an expensive lifestyle. So I'm gonna
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna do a lot of things.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: I can do a lot of things. Speaking to your
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: friends the forty nine ers, did you throw a party
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: because Trent Williams resigned? What's going on? That's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money.
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  Speaker 4: How old is he?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Like, forty five, forty six? What the hew old is
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: that guy?
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing though that he can go this long.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: I mean we're seeing this in lots of different sports, obviously,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: what Lebron James is doing. Whether you like hi or not,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: He's forty one years old doing this, and Curry and
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: Rady and all these different things. And you know, the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: thing with Turn Williams is is that you know he
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: owns a gym in Oklahoma. He is absolutely all about
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: working out, eating the right things.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: You can see him. I mean, he's a great guy too.
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  Speaker 3: I know you'd hate him because he's a you're a
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: Seahawk fan, but I mean, I don't think he owns
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: a shirt with sleeves.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: I get him crab all.
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  Speaker 3: The time, Like, dude, you do you just have to
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: have those pythons just sitting out all the time, suns out,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: guns out, reins out, guns out, cloudy out guns out
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: like he's just but he's you know, he's in in
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: tremendous shape and there's no doubt in my mind that
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: maybe he's not the best left tackle in the league anymore,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: but he's certainly still in the top five.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: And so it's a two year contract.
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  Speaker 3: I think by the end of that because everybody keeps
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: saying they got to get a town, they got to
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: get Attackle, they got to get Attackle. Well, I think
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: they have a two year window and they'll probably you know,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: they're sitting at twenty seven. If they like somebody there,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna go that route. But the one
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: thing is is just and you and I have had
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: this conversation and I love talking draft, so let's talk
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: draft until our head's ball off here. But they've had
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: a great offseason. I mean, they've really really had a
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: great offseason. I'm I don't think that they've I'm not
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: gonna say that they've passed the Seahawks because they didn't
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: even come close last year, but in adding the receivers
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: that they did, in getting Trent Williams back, and you know,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: shoring up the defense, and then just in general, getting healthy.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: I think this year it's gonna be a three team
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: or I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: be obviously the Seahawks, the Rams, and now I think
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: you can put the forty nine ers in.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: That they've they've done a lot of great things this offseason. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think you know, all joking aside, I think you'd
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: probably agree with me here that if if the three
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: teams at the top of the NFC West were playing
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: in the other two division, like we've spread them out
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: to the rest of the NFC, those would be those
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: will probably be your three division champs by a mile, right, Like,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're the three best teams in THENFC. I mean,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: that's that's the problem, that this arms race. That and
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: that's why the draft's gonna be fun because my Seattle
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: right now has four picks. But John Shawder if you
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: saw he came out yesterday and said, yeah, I don't
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: think it's any it's no, it's no secret. We want
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  Speaker 1: to do we want to move down right and and
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: and good for him. He's basically saying we're open for business.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: But like, it's an arms race between these three teams
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: with the Rams did in the offseason with the cornerback
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: position with McDuffie and Watson and and what the forty
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: nine ers are doing. Yeah, it's an arms race because
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: you're not even looking around the rest of the league.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: You're just looking at your neighbors in the same division, John,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: and it's a it's gonna be a hell of a battle.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: Again.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: The bad thing is they're gonna beat each other up, right,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. And the way the way the NFL
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: playoffs work, you're gonna have a division winner. You should
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: have two wild card teams that are gonna have to
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: go on the road, and they're probably gonna be better
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: teams than the others.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, I look at the rest of
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: the divisions that you got.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: You just talked about it.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: I think Chicago's going to take a step back. They
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: you know that the year after you win a bunch
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: of close games in the cardiac fashion that they did.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying they're not good. They are, but
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: I don't trust Kayleb Williams the Packers. I'm not sure
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: we're there. I think the Lions will go back to
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: their perch up high. What will Kyler Murray do in
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: Minnesota Sea. Why don't division there.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: In the East. I think the Giants going to make
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: a big jump. I think they absolutely robbed Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why you're giving up the tenth overall
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: pick for a guy who's twenty nine and he weighed
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: in at three hundred and ninety four downs. God when
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: he when he went to the bank, like, what are
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: you doing? This guy's going to be in the league
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: a couple of years. That's why the Bengals are the Bengals.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: But Harbaugh goes to the Giants. They have picks five
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: and ten. They think they have a quarterback set. You know,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: they've got some good defensive talent. I think the Giants
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: are going to make a big jump even to win
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: that division. But the reason I say all that is
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: because none of those teams are still better than the
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: top three teams in the NFC West.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: So it should be in some order.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: And I would imagine, much to the chagrin of Seahawks fans,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: that the Rams will probably be the number one power
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: ranked team with no power rankings. Stupid and they here's
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: the they don't matter. This is at college. So let
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: the Rams be power ranked one all season long.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Who cares. Let them take the pressure.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: And you know it's weird, but the Super Bowl champs
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: are almost flying under the radar right where like we've
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: talked about, I mean this game that the Niners and
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: Rams are gonna play, and that thing's gonna take. You
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: know that everybody's gonna be talking about that. It almost
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: seems like the Seahawks already have the disrespect and everybody's
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: handing the handing the baton over.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: To the Rams. You know we should do in the fall,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: let's do a joint run for ness Ian and John
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Power rankings and just sell it off. Is like the
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: most important tell people that we tell people. We do
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: this massive deep dive into the analytics and it's just
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: this that, and then just screw it up where it's
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: like like all of a sudden, who would be I'm
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: gonna throw a team out there, The Cardinals are number one?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Uh like, just make it all I could, and just
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: see how many people buy it. And this say these
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: guys are idiots.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: Dolphins.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Dolphins are a top five team in our Power rankings.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: You and I'd learned a long time ago you don't
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: have to be right, No, you have to say it
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: with a lot of authority and say it loud.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: That's pretty much what media is nowadays.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: It's not who's right, wrong or indifferent, it's who's the loudest,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: most obnoxious, and you can say it with the most authority.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: And actually that's not just sports, that's our country.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: But I digress, But.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's just what we do, right And
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: then people just go sounds like, you know, is what
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: he's talking about.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I think I believe him. Oh my god. Well, here's
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: what's funny about that. There's two things. One that one
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: of those guys will be in the studio here in
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: about a half hour. Two two we worked with a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: guy like that now has a very successful national show
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: on FS one. His name might sound a lot like
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: Colin Cowhard. Anyway, we move on. Let's uh, let's let's
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: let's go to So the forty nine ers. This is
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: an interesting thing we've been talking so much here in Seattle,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: John about the four picks. Seattle has one you know,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: first first round, a second, a third, and then a
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: sixth rounder. So one on day three, two on day two,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: and just the one on first that they want to
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: get rid of. The thirty second over all the last
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: pick that does come, and Schneider points out, and you
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: know this, that fifth year option. If there's a guy
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: you really love, you'll take that, even though it's thirty
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: two and all that. So they think they can they
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: can have some movement there. The forty nine ers is
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: almost as strange a draft in terms of how it's
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: set up for folks who don't know. You guys have
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: a first rounder, a second rounder, and then if I'm
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: reading this right, one, two, three, four fourth round picks
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: and that's it, six total picks, four in the fourth round,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: one in a two Like that's an oddity as well.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: They've got to be looking at John Lynch's got to
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: be looking to move some of those fourth round picks. Yeah,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: he'll do that.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: And the thing is they're like the Seahawks. Though they've
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: had a lot of obviously a success in the middle rounds,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: not as much in the first round. It's a lot
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: like what the Seahawks do, their scouts and their department
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. They're really good at
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: finding the mid round gym. So they like having those,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: but you're right, they'd like to have a little more
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: spread out. One of the reasons they have all that
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: is over the last number of years, and this is
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: what the Seahawks are have already faced and they're going
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: to start facing. When you're successful, there goes your OC,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: there goes your DC, there goes your back coach. That
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: goes And what happens is when these are minority candidates
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: that get hired, which is what's happened with the forty
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: nine ers, are front office guys who are minority candidates
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: and they get hired, then you get these compensation picks.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: And that's what the forty nine ers have been stacking
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: up on in the last.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Number of years.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: Because of their success, they've lost a ton of coaches.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: I mean they lost solid again to Tennessee this year.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: But I mean you've got to become skillful in replacing
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: those guys. And that's where Seattle is and you and
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: I have had this conversation. I mean, their new offensive
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: coordinator comes from the forty nine ers. You've got to
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: be able to replace those guys and you start having success.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: But in the forty nine ers case, they've gotten those
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: picks through minority candidates who got hired other places. Three
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: of those three of the picks, by the way, Yeah,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: because the forty nine ers would have had they would
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: have had just the three picks, A one to two
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: and a four. Three of those picks all the fourth
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: round thirty three, thirty eight, thirty nine, those are obviously
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: after the thirty two are taken, are all compensatory picks
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: for San Francis.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: So what are they looking for? Like Ed Rusher still
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: kind of near the top of the list.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: Well, you and I have had this conversation whether the
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: reason why the Rams and the Seahawks have passed up
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: the forty nine ers is in the trenches and this
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: was their whole mo and they were just they constantly
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: would draft there and then they just stopped. And then
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: that's what why they have struggled so much. So well,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: they may or may not go offensive line or offensive
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: tackle for Truent Williams in a couple years. They really
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: got to fortify the defensive line.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: You've got to love here in this. I mean, look, Nick.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: Bosa's getting to the point where he's really really good.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: But he was drafted in nineteen, so you're looking at
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: his you know, seventh eighth year, he's had two ACL injuries. Now,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: Michel Williams their first round pick last year, he blew
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: out his knee and he was he's kind of a
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: tweener anyway. Really isn't an outside guy, really is an
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: inside guy. They thought they were getting a Michael Bennett type,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: but he hasn't been that. So I think they've got
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: to go back to the well because look, they had
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: twenty two sacks something like that. They were one of
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: the worst teams. Now, look they lost Bosa, but their
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: defensive line doesn't scare anybody.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Their edges don't scare.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: Anybody, so they I think they need to go back
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: into the defensive line. Now that Trent Williams signed for
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: a couple of years, they can go offensive line, but
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: they really don't have to now because he's going to
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: hang around. They've got to fortify the lines. And that's
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: the bottom line to this team, because the Rams and
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks have passed him up. And that's what it
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: is is these three teams punch each other in the face.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's all great. You can talk about the
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks and the skilled position guys in JSN versus Pookuinaku
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. But the reason why that all
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: happens is because the trenches are the engine that runs
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: both of these teams in Seattle, and with the Rams
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: and the fort Niners have fallen behind.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's when you also start losing, like
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: you said, those draft picks, but then you get the
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: ones back because your coaches leave. Part of the thing
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: is your coaches leave and you're still trying to find
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: your identity right and exactly you are right. I mean
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan, we kind of know who and what
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: he is, but the solid departure we talked about him
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: a lot last year. That's a pretty massive loss, isn't
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: it gigantic?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: It's gigantic because the thing is, even though you bring
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: in somebody is established as as what they've done in
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: Rahee Morris. The last time they did this was Steve
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: Wilkes a few years ago. He was an established defensive coordinator.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: And kind of had his thing that he did.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: But Kyle is I know you're going to be shocked
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: by this, but he's a lot like Mike McDonald in
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: this way.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: He wants things done his way.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: And so the problem is is when you get a
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: guy that's kind of set this is the defense I run,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: it doesn't always work.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: So even though the.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: Name is really good, I'm not sure that this is
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: a great fit. Because Kyle, he and Robert Soli were
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: on the same page and they knew what they were
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: gonna do, and that was massive last year, and he
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: got every inch, every drop out of that defense because
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: you know, all those injuries that happened.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: It was amazing they could hang around.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: As long as they did, But a lot of it
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: was because Kyle and Robert Sali were on the same page.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: Rahim Morris is a great defensive coordinator, but I don't
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: know that he's a great fit for the forty nine ers.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: So I think they're gonna have some growing pains early
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: in the year trying to establish even though they're going
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: to have health.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: A lot more health. Guys like Bosa and.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: Warner and such are back. But the last time they
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: did this, it didn't work out so well. To get
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: the big name defensive coordinator and plug it in there
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: with Kyle, because Kyle wants with Kyle wants, and I
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: don't care how long you've been doing this, if you're
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: not on the same page with him, it causes problems.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: They had Steve Wolkes in the booth Any had them
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: on the sidelines. It was a pure mess, and that
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: same thing could happen even though where Morris is very
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: well respected in the league.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: Just looking at draft history, how would you how would you?
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: I hate the great system, but how if someone says
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: how is how is?
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: How has John Lynch been in drafts? And I'm looking
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: through here, it's an amazing thing because as good as
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: that roster is, as good as they are, way way
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: bye bye, even average standards, He's had a lot of
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: misses and yet look where they are, like there's still
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: a league football team. I mean, Jake Moody was the
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: second pick in twenty twenty three. You know I got
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: did I have I ever told you that story? Oh?
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: This is a this is an amazing story.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: So we would be broadcasting right next to there. They
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: were really cool to us. They would never trust you
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: to do this, but me, of course it's very different. Yeah,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: but we broadcast right next to the literally right next
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: to their.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: To their draft room.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: You had to be like padded down. It was like
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: going to an.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: Airport, especially with me, and they would put us in
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: this room with steaks and big screen TVs. Really cool
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: to us, and they drafted Jake Moody in the fourth round,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: and I was screaming the whole day because Papa has
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: the inside round play by.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Place he's a third round pick, round pick righte night's round.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: He was a third round pick. And they didn't have
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: a first or a second I think that year something
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: like that because of Trey Lance, because of the big
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: bomb of Trey Lance, they ain't have picks. So we're
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: in this room and Papa's trying to tell me. They're
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: play by play guy Greg. Papa trying to tell me
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: the whole time, dude, they're taking a kicker.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: Just deal with it.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: Like you don't take kickers in the draft. You can
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: get him anywhere, like Brandon Aubery who just got big
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: stinking contract extension. You don't take kickers never, never, never.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: And he's telling me all day, dude, they're taking a kicker,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: just watch it. And I they announced his name, Kicker Michigan,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: and right on the air, I blurt out, when Goodell's
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: not even done, I go no, oh, So they ran
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: that forever and and I'm going off right, and then
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan walks in and I didn't know this. They
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: had our broadcast on. I don't know why, but they
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: had our broadcast on and Kyle heard me and he
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: walked in and he goes, dude, I wanted a running back,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: like right away, ups open the door like flash, it
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: rips it open, it goes, I wanted a running back.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: They didn't even want that guy.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: Lynch and the rest of the guys thought he was great,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: and of course you know he didn't turn out to
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: be really good. But but to your point of drafting,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: they've been a little bit like Schnyder in that they
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: they do great like round two through seven, right, but
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: round one they've just had problems in a moody we
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: just talked about. But I mean, Kittle's a fifth rounder,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: Warner's a third round or I mean, go on down
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: the line. Outside of Nick Bosa, they and that's a
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: no brainer because remember Arizona took Kyler first and then
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: they took Bosa second.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: It was a no brainer. They just have they've really
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: struggled in the second.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: Round or in the first round, and none better than
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: than Trey Lance. I mean, you gave up two technically
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: three first rounders, you got one back, but brock Perty
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: saved them. I'll be Honestly, if brock Party doesn't do
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: what he's done as mister irrelevant a couple of years ago,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that John Lynch is still around. Kyle
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: Shannan is, but I don't know that John Lynch is
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: because that's a massive.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Bomb on the worst ever. Yeah, Trey Lance, third overall
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: pick in the first round of twenty The funny thing
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty one draft. That's the one the
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Seahawks punted on. They just took, They just took three
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: players that year. They just said, you know, we don't know.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty. Nobody's having team Dass, Ridge, Stone, Forsyth,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: Trey Brown.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 6: I think it was right.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, picked before Humphrey.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: What was that Anderson D.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: S Bridge one pick before Creed Humphrey.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been nice. Yeah, that would have
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: been nice. That's brutal. Well, I mean, the best fun
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: game to play too. If you're bored at night.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: Just go through drafts and go, oh, we could have
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: that guy.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Well, we could have that. I mean the best pick,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: the best pick Lynch has made is very It's very
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Richard Sherman like twenty twenty one. That same twenty twenty one.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: He took Leonard the cornerback out of Oregon in the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: fifth round, one hundred and seventy second the.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: Corner in the third round, Ambry Thomas out of Michigan.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: Like they just thought, like they they've taken running back
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: after running back. I think he and Lynch are taken
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: three running backs in the third round. They've all been bombed.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Just Joe Williams from Utah.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, just a graveyard, just terrible, terrible running backs
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: that just you know, so there certain you know, every
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: front office has this, they have blind spots.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: It's a certain position, it's a certain.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean at just the first round,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: I mean like Schneider before JSN, and I'm doing this
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: off top of my head, but I mean they they
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: weren't good with receivers, but then you know JSN is
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: a totally different Sorry, that was awesome.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: That was a great pick.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: But you know, it's just certain team. Like every time
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: Shannan takes a running back, ever just goes, oh, I
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: know he's gonna stuck.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: He's gonna suck.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: They've taken three, yeah, and they've all been off the
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: roster in like two years.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: Like you can go back.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's it is an So that's
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: their blind spot.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: They cannot pick running backs. They just can't.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: That's why they traded for McCaffrey because like, we suck
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: at running backs. Let's take five, you know, a second,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: a third, two fours and just go get McCaffrey, Like
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: we cannot draft running back the the Yeah.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: I don't want to.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 6: I hate.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: I don't want to pile on this guy because you
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl and I think Pete Pete is
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: one of the best things ever having to sale sports.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: I think that you can see the difference in the
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: drafts with Pete and without Pete as the guy who
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: had the ultimate say over Schneider, because since Pete's left,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: the three drafts have been phenomenal, Like they've been absolutely
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: and with Pete you have to give him if you're
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: gonna give him criticism, which I am right now. Then
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: the criticism were for those middle drafts after his first
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: few years because I think they got too cute, right,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: They're like, let's get let's go get ourselves a Christian Michael,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: let's go get ourselves for a shot, pay you know,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: let's go let's go down that road. Let's I mean, Milik.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: They're also always picking at the end of the first round.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: That's part of it. I mean, let's go get Milik
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: McDowell to be so good like Milik McDowell. No, Dad,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: oh my god, mcdull. Pick don't gonna save you there
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: as a second round pick, never played a game, never
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: played again. Now, in their defense, they didn't know that
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: he was going to wrap himself around a tree on
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: an ATV. But on the other side, there were a
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: zillion red flags with that guy too, right. But see,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: they don't take him in twenty seventeen if they aren't
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: having this great success they've already had, like they're just
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: filling out the roster right like there, Like okay, well,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: let's let's take a couple of running backs, because you know,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: Marshawn Lord knows when he's just going to go off
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: the deep end, right, like he might just ride his
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: bike all the way back down to the Bay Area.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: And call it it.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, he did threw his shoes up on the
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl Sunday and decided to quit, So I get
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: what they were doing. But yeah, they took a lot
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: of flyers on guys. Now, it's like they took a
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: flyer on Emon Wory last year and the guy ends
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: up being if you're in a redraft right now, he'd
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: be a top ten pick, right, So like no doubt,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: Like I trust in what Schneider's doing. But yeah, they
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: have they took some flyers over the years for sure.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's you can play that game. You know,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: the Christian Michael was Travis Kelce, right, wasn't that the
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: one he took? They took Michael for Travis Kelsey. I think, yeah,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: so that's no fun. That's not a fun game to
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: play with. You know.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: Here's the bottom line though to this whole thing is
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: this is not an exact science, and you're dealing with
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: kids and you just talked about your son And I
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: got a twenty two year old son who's who's a
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: numbskulled ninety percent of the time. Yeah, but he's gonna
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: put me in his in an old folks so someday,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: So don't tell him I said that. But you know,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: that's what you're dealing with. And so it's like which
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: way they're gonna go because with some kids, they get
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: millions of dollars and they say, oh, I gotta go
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: earn it. With a lot of kids, they go, god,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: I got millions, millions of dollars and I'm already like
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: I'm set for life.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: What do I need to deal with?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: Especially when you're talking nil now, Like, you just don't
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: know how these kids are going to react at what
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: kind of work out there they're going to do, how
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: tough they are, how much they want it, you know,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: all these different factors that maybe that aren't physical in nature.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: And you can sit there and interview kids and they
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: can give you all the right answers. I mean, who
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: hasn't sat there in a job interview and bs their
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: head off. I mean, I have my God, that's what
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: I do for a living. So I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 3: you just don't know really what's real with a lot
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: of these kids. The one thing I would say though,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: about the better teams, they get guys who fit what
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: they're trying to do, and if they screw up, they
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: screw up. But there's so many teams at the top
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: of the draft that they're there every single year and
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: they don't know what they're doing, and they're just throwing
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: darts at a board. They don't know what they're trying
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: to get. They don't know what kind of character they're
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: trying to do. They're just oh my god. Mel Kiper
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: said that, you know, Rvel Reese is the best player,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: I'd better pick that guy, like, I'm not sorry, I'm
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: not gonna pick a positionless guy. Now, he might be
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: the next Michel Parsons, I get it, But I wouldn't
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: take him at two if I were the Jets. I
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: wouldn't take him at three if.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: I were the Cardinals. The Cardinals have already tried that.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: The Cardinals have taken you know, guys like Simmons and
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: so forth, Zaven Collins. It's like they didn't have a position.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe that works. But I just think that the
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  Speaker 3: smarter teams, they make things a little bit harder in
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: terms or much a little bit easier, because the bottom
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: line is, and you know this, Look, the first round
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: pick is fifty to fifty, and.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: It goes down from there.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: And think about that, yet, fifty in the first round,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: whether they get whether they get to a second contract,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: fifty to fifty, whether they get to a second contract,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: and then the numbers go down from there. So everybody
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: thinks their team should be hitting all these picks.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how it works.
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  Speaker 6: No, I just we got to go.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: But I just hope Ty Simpson doesn't to end up
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: in Arizona. That'd be classic because we don't have.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: To worry that I got it.
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  Speaker 6: I got it.
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  Speaker 1: Look, so I'm a little I'm here far away. Go quick,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: hold on, just real quick. This is important.
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  Speaker 3: You know that Seattle's fit can A lot of people
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: are putting him in Arizona, the Alabama quarterback, but the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: Jets are sitting at you know, thirty three. I wouldn't
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: be surprised whatsoever. And I did see this yesterday somebody
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: wrote about this. Look, the Seahawks don't carry their trading
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: with the Seahawks are.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: Worried about themselves.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if the Seahawks and Cardinals got together,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: unless the Cardinals earlier than that. But I wouldn't be
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: shocked whatsoever if if because Arizona sits at thirty five
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: in the second round, I wouldn't be surprised at all
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: if if Arizona called and tried to get ahead of
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: the Jets to get Simpson and like you said, get
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: the extra year, uh.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: In the you know for the first round for the
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: for the quarterback that you got to develop. All right,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: you're the best, by the way, I'm gonna call you
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. Probably on Saturday. We'll put you on the
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: radio on the weekend for talking draft.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: All right, just uh, and.
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  Speaker 1: I know you do.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it, all right, talk to You'll call about
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: twenty minutes late.
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  Speaker 12: Though this time this isn't happening again. I just this
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 12: is I'm not mister reliable here. I'm not I'm not
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 12: on the wrong President John. Instead, we went six minutes
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 12: past our break time, so it's even better. All right, Oh,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 12: put them on hold, put them on holds, put him
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 12: on holds.
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  Speaker 6: He's done.
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  Speaker 1: We're done. We're out of here.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 6: My god.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: All right, well we'll check the text coming up next.
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  Speaker 13: Hey guys, casey Legamina here, I just wanted to thank
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 13: the Mariner fans and in particular Dan Wilson. You know,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 13: playing for a manager that has no idea what he's doing.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 13: I thought I was brought on the team to throw
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 13: batting practice. I didn't know i'd get to throw batting
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 13: practice in the middle of games. It's really nice they
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 13: give me a chance out of Gonzaga saying that I
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 13: have a sweeper.
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  Speaker 4: But I have a sweeper that doesn't sweep.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: It's more like a duster.
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  Speaker 4: So just want to thank Dan Wilson for give.
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  Speaker 1: Me that chance. Timing is everything he was defad about
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: ten minutes ago. That came in before that, I promise,
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  Speaker 1: I know Casey had no idea when he called in
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: that he got d FA. Yeah, some guy named is
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Andrew Happy who I called up? I don't know, Alex Hoy,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Alex Hopey, Yeah, whatever, all right, keep going. I wish
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: I was more tech savvy than I am.
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  Speaker 14: Me too, or i'd have the theme to The Price
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 14: is Right playing because Ian Fornes, come on down. You
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 14: are the NBA hypocrite of the day, yes, saying that
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 14: you watched the NBA playoffs before there's an NBA team
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 14: back in Seattle.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: You need to go do your fifty hail Mary's. Oh
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: that's the lasting. I want to not want to do
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: that way, and I don't know. I never got through it.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: That Catholic such a bad.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: And somewhere some place up on First Hill at Odai
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: High School, they're not their heads going yep, sure glad
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: we got Nate Berlison, got the guy on TV not
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: very good, don't want any part of him.
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  Speaker 4: I got one more.
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  Speaker 15: All right, Hey, Ian Seattle sports guy here with another
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 15: sports update. Scott's service was seen at the hat Backbar
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 15: and girl laughing hysterically and uncontrollably.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: When asked why, he.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 13: Said his favorite thing to do is watch the Mariners
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 13: manage by Dan Wilson and realized he.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: Wasn't that bad. Also, Ballard High.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 13: School welcomes its new point guard Miles Rice for his
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 13: fit transfers just played for everybody else in the country,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 13: but assures it's not the program.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Actually got an update on that it's not. Ballard High School.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford just signed him to play at Rainier Beach. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: he's gonna play at Rayner Beach next year, so you
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: get paid more than less next place. Jack's unless Brandon
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: roy gets a job at Roosevelt Ingram if he's if
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: if for some reason, Brandon is side because he's already
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: done the Nathan Hale things. So let's see what other
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: also ran high school hopes program in the Metro League. Yea,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I'd say Ingram or Ingram or maybe maybe Roosevelt, one
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: of those two. Probably, Yeah, Brandon's gonna coach them, and
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: Miles rise Be his point guard.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: Fell some eligibility.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: How that happened, I don't know how that happened, and
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: then I left four more years eligibilia college. Where you go,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: let's see, okay, here we go to five to three.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: This is early the show. You and I invest little
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: to no time watching college basketball for all the reasons
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: you brought up. Wake me up and march Maddis Brackett
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: comes out so I can compete against my friends. It's
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: becoming irrelevant who wins. It literally comes down to which
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: team it has the best transfer talent. No thanks, Steve says,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: it's interesting youth sports problem as well. Kids are shoving
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: for the best program of young ages. As a former
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: youth sports coach, this is one hundred percent in college.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Too many of them telling grass screen or somewhere else.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: I forget it does pay to be a forever legend. Yeah,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's a little apples and orange zola. You
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: want to go play for a select soccer team or
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: a travel baseball team, and it's different because you are
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: like you are paying. Yeah, you're not getting paid, you're paying.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 6: You're paying them.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: And then a lot of times it's based on costs.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 4: Right, And you want to like, if you're a parent,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: you want your kid to play. If he's out a
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: place where he's not playing a lot, all right, we'll
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 4: going to go to this club where he's going to
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: We're paying all his money, might as well have played.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: Talking about the college stuff again, well said he. And
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: it used to be the biggest college basketball and football
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: fan ever. Whatever happened to the Brandon Roys, that John Brockman's,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: the Quincy Pondexters, the Marcus Tuyas and Sopos of the world,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: and the lifelong UB fans started out barely playing, and
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: they all had small roles, and they all developed and
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: stayed by their senior year, as they'll be remembered forever.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: That won't happen anymore. We had that conversation a lot
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: on the wazoo side with Alex and MK during our
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: fall conversations too, And yeah, I'm with you. I mean, listen,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: John Brockman is a great example that.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: John Brockman had an NBA.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 6: Career, you know.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: And and but here's the thing in today's world, in
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: today's world, with those guys have stuck around. Yeah, that's
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: probably no, probably not. And that's not a shot that
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: you dub. It's just the reality. I'll give you an example. Wisconsin,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: which beat you dub in the Big Ten tournament right yep,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: and was a tournament team. Uh that really good player.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: This name will bring up shivers Down's Husky fans spines
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: because he lit him up, John Blackwell, number three guy
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. He left Wisconsin Big ten team
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: in the tournament going to do like just it's just
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: out of control, man. And if you think it's not,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: then God bless you. But I don't know how you
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: know it's ruined. College basketball is a two of six
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: the entire roster. Fiot that the cruse every year is
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: the worst variable that ends fans loyalty, exactly, hard to
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: be loyal, hard to be excited. We had a conversation
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: with John Harlowe earlier when it just there's no there's
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: no continuity.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: You can't it's like, who are you rooting for?
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: Well, and Andrews brought it up a great point. You
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: want to see guys develop. You want to see that
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: improvement from year to year. Freshman is soptware, sophomore to junior, junior, senior,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You know, I think if nothing else,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: if a guy leaves after one year to go to
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: the NBA, that's one thing. Yeah, that happens. But three
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: schools in three years, four and four, whatever it might be.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a new meeting to one and done. You
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: know he used to be one and done. The NBABA confession.
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of texts.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: All right, all right, listen, we're gonna make up some
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 5: tablet of sports sins. I have hypocrisy on here as
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  Speaker 5: you announced today, cross pollinadd fan hood, of which I
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• 1:49:40
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• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: then it's like two minutes later, wait, I completely changed
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• 1:49:49
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  Speaker 6: How are we doing? Where are you? By the way,
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  Speaker 6: are you in studio?
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  Speaker 1: I am yeah. You want to do something? What do
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm moving your board over. Ut you know what
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  Speaker 6: No, No, We're all good.
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  Speaker 16: This is the uh, this is nobody one of my
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  Speaker 16: favorites right there, one of my favorites. Although I got
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  Speaker 16: to find a better way to find stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Man, how do you know where all this stuff?
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  Speaker 6: I really don't. I'm moving stuff around all the time.
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  Speaker 6: I have no idea where stuff is. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 6: not where most of this stuff is.
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  Speaker 1: Nikki. We just had Nikki on two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 6: I know this is this is the original. That's the
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  Speaker 6: original one. Then that spawned this one, maroness, it's spawned
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  Speaker 1: Guys, I think we got him to do a new one.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't when we had him on the show times ago.
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  Speaker 1: You have to find that you can add. You can
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  Speaker 1: add another one for you all on the way. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll do that.
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  Speaker 16: We'll do that time I see that guy just like
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 16: a chicken, parmesan sandwiches and pizza have you every time.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: His dad is a great follow Joe Scarlatta. Okay, and
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: he's like this incredible cook, like incredible cook. And I
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: watched pop on his Instagram and it's like every time,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: like I'm hungry, like I can I can have just
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: eaten dinner. And I'm like, damn, yeah, it's not just Sunday.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: I'll get how how Nicky and his twin brothers so
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: skinny because this dude can cook, Like old Man.
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  Speaker 16: Know what it is about Italians, Man, Jessman knows because
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 16: you grewupper and a lot of them, Like there's no
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 16: middle ground. They're either fat as a house or skinny
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 16: as a rail between two.
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  Speaker 2: O'clock dinners, Sunday gravy or yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sunday sauce Old Joel makes is remarkable. It's remarkable.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe you do a remote from Nicki Scarlatta's house.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: Nick Nicky, he lives island. He's on Staten Island. Yeah,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: where are you from?
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: Long Island?
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: Same same thing?
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 6: No, not even just check whoa.
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  Speaker 16: It's like somebody's saying they're from New York. But they're
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 16: from like Ithaca, New York. That's practically Yeah.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: That's that's a good What's like, what's the comparison here saying, hey, soft,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: are you from Des Moines? No, you're from where you're from?
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  Speaker 16: No, I'm from Walla, Walla, Okay, state of Washington. We're
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 16: from Seattle.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: From Somebody says, I, do you live in Burian you'd
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: be offended, right.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 6: No, that's it's just south Okay, ten minutes away. Okay.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 6: I'm just like, if you're in a twenty minute radius, whatever,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: you're fine.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, half our radios. I I was telling my buddy
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: John Lyne, I played your golf course on Saturday. I
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: saw you there and I eighteen holes, didn't have one beer. Crazy, Huh.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: That's that's weird.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 6: That's disappointing. By the way, is what that is?
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 16: A couple after I don't even know you, man, I know, honestly,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 16: I know I'm trying to show off in front of
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 16: your kid that you know. It's not cool anymore.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Just want to beat him.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 6: It's all wanted Skinny your kid is. By the way,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 6: speaking of Skinny.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: I know what the hell I know?
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  Speaker 6: Well, the guy of like light bow or something. He works.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: That guy works out like nobody's business, like he's just me.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: He's yeah, exactly, Like, here's the problem. Here's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Guess where I'm going after work again, to the to
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  Speaker 1: the gym, and I won't look like that ever, ever, ever, ever.
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  Speaker 6: That's because you go to the gym and you'll have
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  Speaker 6: a hamburger.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I kind of sit around, look around you are,
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  Speaker 1: I go, who's here to talk to? What am I
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  Speaker 1: doing walking around? I think when you walk in, you
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  Speaker 1: just feel like you've accomplished something.
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  Speaker 2: Twelve curls camp.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah you know, well you said you wanted to beat him.
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  Speaker 6: Did you beat him?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, good?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's not really his strong suit though, is it.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: No, he's actually he's yeah better than me right now.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: He's getting there, But I don't. Oh, I know, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know eventually he's all buddies with guys out there
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: working and stuff, and I'm just like, yeah, whatever, I'm
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: just gonna still kick your ass and make sure you
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: know who's in charge here. And so we did just that,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: just that. Uh, you're in a husky practice today.
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  Speaker 6: No, we're at Jimmy's.
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  Speaker 1: Actually wait what what?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe schule wrong.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 6: No, the schedule is right. We pulled a audible.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 4: Oh what are you doing? Now?
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: They're paying tribute to Casey lem.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 16: Here lies Casey Legoma after he puked all over himself
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  Speaker 16: last night and he just got fired.
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  Speaker 6: Poor bastard.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: Where do you go to school again?
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 6: I have no idea. Did he really? You didn't know what?
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  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like Gonzaga. I know you don't. I
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 6: brought it up. He knows all those guys. By the way,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 6: speaking of my favorite drops, Gonzaga fan base is arrogant.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever heard that one.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 6: Gonzaga fan base is arrogant about this one.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 4: The thing with the Cougar fan base, it's minor league football.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Now, speaking of arrogant, you got to say to that, well,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: I just suck on that for a while, you know
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: what that one?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Probably just probably just get on my phone and call
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: some of my friends.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 6: At it's minor lely football man.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll just uh, I'll just get on my
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: phone and have them rally the troops one of those
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: one of those memorable calls. What remember we called rally
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: the troops against Stephane.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 6: That's right, and you know what, if you didn't make
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 6: that call, you went up two great kids.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 9: Oh my god, oh.
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  Speaker 2: Just an idiot.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: All right, what are we doing today?
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 6: I Marge, what's today? Tuesday? Well, we're gonna move things around.
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  Speaker 16: Petros at four, the Bock tomorrow from Dino so Floorio
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 16: at three, ten, Petros at four.
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  Speaker 6: John Wilner is gonna join at five. I'm sure we'll
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 6: talk some draft with him.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 16: And then six pm we're gonna get our buddy, Sir
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 16: rend Petro from Kansas City. And then Jody Taylor, sports
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 16: talk legend in Arizona, would join us talk some Cardinals
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 16: before the Dick and Softies Cockamamy Hardball.
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  Speaker 6: Pregame show at about six fifteen tonight before the MS take.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: Do you have a new open made for that yet?
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 6: Nope, we just call it the cock It maybe Hardball.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: Prix, because I want to hear that with big voice
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: Guy Coca.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 6: Maybe hardball pre game.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you very much, seeing by for the mild mannered
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 10: and marginally objectionable e Inverness.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: This is paddled Day saying so long everyone,