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Breaking Barriers, Building Careers: Women in Supply Chain & Logistics · Speaking of Supply Chain

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Speaking of Supply Chain, a meboch podcast.
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Speaker 1: This is a show for logistics professionals looking to learn
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Speaker 1: more about the latest innovations in supply chain. Each episode
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Speaker 1: chain disruption and reducing risk, current automation trends, sustainability initiatives,
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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Speaking of Supply Chain, where we
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Speaker 2: explore trends, current events, and innovations impacting the logistics and
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Speaker 2: supply chain industries. I'm your host, Ellen Wood. Today we
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Speaker 2: are doing something a little bit different for International Women's Day.
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Speaker 2: This episode highlights the journeys, challenges, and triumphs of women
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Speaker 2: in a traditionally male dominated industry. Through their stories, we're
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Speaker 2: going to explore what inspired them to enter the field,
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Speaker 2: the obstacles they've overcome, and their hopes for the future.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to this special International Women's Day episode where we're
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Speaker 2: speaking with incredible women from across meetbook consulting. These leaders, consultants,
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Speaker 2: and innovators share their experiences working in a traditionally male
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Speaker 2: dominated industry, offering insights on challenges, progress and what still
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Speaker 2: needs to change. Throughout this episode, you'll hear the stories
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Speaker 2: in their own words, But before we dive in, let's
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Speaker 2: take a moment to recognize that change doesn't happen in isolation.
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Speaker 2: Gender diversity is not just about women supporting women. It's
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Speaker 2: about everyone working together to create an inclusive environment. Our
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Speaker 2: male allies play a crucial role in this progress, whether
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Speaker 2: through mentorship, advocacy, or simply ensuring all voices are heard.
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Speaker 2: As we hear from these women about what drew them
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Speaker 2: to supply chain and logistics, consider this, how can we, all,
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Speaker 2: regardless of our gender, champion diversity in our workplaces. The
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Speaker 2: women at me back that we'll be hearing from today
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Speaker 2: include Christina, Lena, Carolina Verena, Monique, Deanna, Maria Euhana, and Maria.
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Speaker 3: I think carea is something that definitely wanted to talk about.
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Speaker 3: I looked at your questions and the inspirations for this
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Speaker 3: talk and I had many different thoughts on my mind.
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Speaker 3: For example, when you say what inspired you to pursue
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Speaker 3: this career and how did it unfold? And I think
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Speaker 3: it was a very interesting journey. I thought back about
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Speaker 3: when I first thought about, Oh, what do I want
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Speaker 3: to study? What do I want to become? Where am
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Speaker 3: I heading to? And my dad was saying, oh, what
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Speaker 3: about a teacher? Oh this is great, And one of
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Speaker 3: the first things he said was you can combine it
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Speaker 3: so well with family. I'm like, you know, this was
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Speaker 3: like I graduated ninety nine, right, so it was still
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Speaker 3: some time ago, but even back then it made me
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Speaker 3: mad because I thought, why should I choose a career
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Speaker 3: that is very well combinable with family. I want to
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Speaker 3: choose what I like, and that's what I did, you know.
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Speaker 3: And it's not like that my family disagreed or that
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Speaker 3: they tried to make me choose a different path. And
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Speaker 3: I think it was the right path. Entering then the
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Speaker 3: world of consulting. Yes, I have thought about, oh, how
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Speaker 3: is this going to end? This is probably a super
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Speaker 3: interesting but also quite stressful job, and how long am
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Speaker 3: I going to be doing this? And by now I've
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Speaker 3: been doing this for seventeen years. It's crazy and it
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Speaker 3: has been an extremely interesting journey because, as I mean
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Speaker 3: the nature of consulting, you always have different projects, and
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Speaker 3: you you have always new customers and new clients. Sometimes
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Speaker 3: it's sad to see a client go, but sometimes you're
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Speaker 3: like gosh, good thing, this is over, off the.
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Speaker 2: New world onto the next thing.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 4: Luckily I never got pushed back at all, so I
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Speaker 4: always got support in the ways I wanted to choose,
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Speaker 4: which I think I maybe I'm very lucky for I
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Speaker 4: was like from my family and from all the sides.
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Speaker 4: So for me, since I'm young, it was quite clear
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Speaker 4: that I want to go somewhere into science or engineering,
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Speaker 4: so something kind of technical. Already doing school, I was
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Speaker 4: more like the mathematics and physics girl, and not maybe
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Speaker 4: that much like the language girl. So that part was
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Speaker 4: always kind of in front of me. And yeah, luckily
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Speaker 4: my parents they supported it, so they never tried me
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Speaker 4: to push me into any other direction. They both also scientists,
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Speaker 4: so maybe that also helped. Probably in general, I also
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Speaker 4: agree with Christina, it's important that we go the part
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Speaker 4: we want to go, not thinking about can we do
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Speaker 4: that as a woman? Can we and one day combine
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Speaker 4: it with a family, I think when we're just going
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Speaker 4: it and we figured it out at the end, that's
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Speaker 4: the way how we make the change at the end,
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Speaker 4: not trying to avoid these maybe complicated ways, but just
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Speaker 4: do what we like to do.
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Speaker 5: It was pretty much fifty fifty. I didn't know anything
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Speaker 5: over there. Once I came back to Chile, I had
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Speaker 5: to rethink what I wanted to do. It was the
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Speaker 5: first time because I finished the university, I moved there,
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Speaker 5: I kept studying, and then I moved to here. And
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Speaker 5: when you were asking me, what made you think about
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Speaker 5: like chain, I think it was one class that I
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Speaker 5: had in the university that I was so cool, so interesting,
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Speaker 5: and it was about all the logistics, and I said, okay,
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Speaker 5: I'm going to go through that feel I think. And
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Speaker 5: on the other hand, I really loved consultancy because, like
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Speaker 5: everybody else would tell you, it's so cool to have
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Speaker 5: different projects all the time and you're working with different
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Speaker 5: people permanently, and also you were constantly learning so many things.
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Speaker 6: How I came to logistics and especially also consulting, there
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Speaker 6: was not one defining moment that made me choose this industry.
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Speaker 6: It was more that during my studies I had the
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Speaker 6: impression that with working as a consultant, you become really
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Speaker 6: good in what you're doing, and I wanted to become good.
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Speaker 6: So consulting was the first direction for me after my
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Speaker 6: master's degree and logistics. Why did I choose logistics. I
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Speaker 6: really like boxes. I like boxes like where you can
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Speaker 6: put I don't know where you can put just your
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Speaker 6: private things in and organize your home. So that was
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Speaker 6: one big part. But also I always associated logistics with organing,
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Speaker 6: which I am good at, and that drove me to
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Speaker 6: that direction. But of course, and now my work is
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Speaker 6: including much more than organizing. It's planning, analyzing, explaining everything.
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Speaker 2: It's everything you love, just in a bigger scale.
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Speaker 5: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for some the path to supply chain was clear
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Speaker 2: from the start, while for others, like myself, found their
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Speaker 2: way here unexpectedly. But regardless of how they arrived, their
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Speaker 2: journeys share a common thread, the drive to tackle complex
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Speaker 2: challenges and make an impact. Of course, working in this
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Speaker 2: field as a woman often comes with unique obstacles. Let's
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Speaker 2: hear about some of the challenges these professionals have faced
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Speaker 2: and how they've navigated them.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I was thinking about the obstacles like and I
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Speaker 5: remember to you, but I'm not completely sure if it
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Speaker 5: was because I was a femail or because I was
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Speaker 5: too young.
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Speaker 7: Okay, because you know that this is the only place
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Speaker 7: that your gray hair is very valuable in different other jobs,
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Speaker 7: they said, you're too old for this and they want
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Speaker 7: to dismiss you. But here all your clients really value
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Speaker 7: that all the experience that you have, so that could
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Speaker 7: be a difference.
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Speaker 5: But I remember in my very first project, it was
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Speaker 5: a team of female but the manager I was working with,
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Speaker 5: she has a lot of experience, and this client, I
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Speaker 5: was absolutely invisible for him, and I hated it. I
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Speaker 5: will go to with her to the office of and
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Speaker 5: he will not say hello, he will not look at me.
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Speaker 5: I was nobody and it was so painful for me.
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Speaker 5: I felt horrible all the time. But I think it
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Speaker 5: was because I was too young.
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Speaker 8: I just wanted to say something. The biggest challenge that
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Speaker 8: I had in my entire career in the industry was
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Speaker 8: not even from men. It was from women.
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Speaker 5: Oh.
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Speaker 8: As a woman, my challenges came from women.
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Speaker 2: My biggest challenges in a good way or in a
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Speaker 2: bad way.
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Speaker 8: No, in a bad way, oh now in bad situation.
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Speaker 8: Bad challenges that came from women, not even men.
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Speaker 4: Ah.
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Speaker 8: And exactly so, we are not a lot in the industry,
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Speaker 8: especially in leadership roles and leadiership seeks. But when we
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Speaker 8: are please, we need to be more. How do we
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Speaker 8: say so?
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Speaker 2: Yes, solidarity. We need to have more solidarity.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, solidarity.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Something I don't want to know is that historically there
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Speaker 9: have been very specific general rules. Right maybe women stay behind,
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Speaker 9: they don't work, they take care of the children, they
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Speaker 9: take care of the house. I think nowadays those gender
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Speaker 9: roles are traditionally still there, but a lot of people
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Speaker 9: choose not to follow them, and that's okay. We as
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Speaker 9: a society altogether, especially in North America, we're accepting that
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Speaker 9: you can choose whatever path you want to choose as
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Speaker 9: a person, not just as a woman or as a man,
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Speaker 9: As a person, you can choose whatever path, and that
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Speaker 9: is really great because then that allows you to make
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Speaker 9: the choices that you're talking about, Helen. So if you're
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Speaker 9: talking about children or time dedicated to do XYZ. See
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Speaker 9: how I'm very vague in my examples because I dont
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Speaker 9: want to select for somebody else. But if I want
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Speaker 9: to select my time to be dedicated to something else,
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Speaker 9: then I am happy to make that choice. And then
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Speaker 9: I make it a choice as a person, not society
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Speaker 9: defining it for me or my job not allowing me
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Speaker 9: to make those choices.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, as you can imagine, I've been in this industry
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Speaker 10: for twenty eight years or something like that, so it's
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Speaker 10: been a while. And in my experience, I've had everything.
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Speaker 10: I've had great experiences, I've had really awkward experiences, and
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Speaker 10: I've had difficult experiences. I mean all of them from
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Speaker 10: having to kind of make yourself colder or have an
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Speaker 10: appearance that did not invite for anything. But also I've
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Speaker 10: had great experiences. I've had a couple of mentors in
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Speaker 10: my life that have been really good, both men and women,
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Speaker 10: and I think those need to be spoken about. And
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Speaker 10: I've also had leaders that were not so good that
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Speaker 10: I had to confront. Also, one of the things that
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Speaker 10: I didn't like for quite some time is that because
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Speaker 10: I decided not to be a mom, that they used
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Speaker 10: me as an example with the younger ones. Because I
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Speaker 10: felt that was not right. I felt that it's a choice.
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Speaker 10: It shouldn't be that because you are available all the time,
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Speaker 10: then this will use you with the younger ones to
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Speaker 10: also be available all the time. Men take away their choice,
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Speaker 10: which you know, I don't find it to be correct.
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Speaker 10: And I also have to hear many comments saying that
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Speaker 10: prety much if you become a mom, you're not able
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Speaker 10: to work in this world, well, in this business rather
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Speaker 10: in this sector anymore. Also that I had to confront
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Speaker 10: those type of situations quite often and fight for them
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Speaker 10: and say, hey, that's not right. We cannot do it
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Speaker 10: with your mentality. But it's definitely something that can be done,
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Speaker 10: and we have to encourage them to do it. So
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Speaker 10: the good thing is that with new at least in Spain,
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Speaker 10: with a new leave of absence laws for men, that
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Speaker 10: has changed quite a bit. That has helped a lot
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Speaker 10: because they get the same amount of time off men
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Speaker 10: and women, so that way is much more difficult to
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Speaker 10: discriminate when that happens.
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Speaker 2: From being underestimated to being the only woman in the room.
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Speaker 2: These challenges are all too common, but progress is happening.
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Speaker 2: More women are steps into leadership, advocating for inclusivity and
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Speaker 2: pushing for real change. But how does this change happen?
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Speaker 2: It starts with awareness and action. Organizations need a foster
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Speaker 2: environment where everyone, regardless of gender, has the opportunity to succeed.
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Speaker 2: So what have our guests seen in terms of progress?
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Speaker 9: If I want to select my time to be dedicated
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Speaker 9: to something else, then I am happy to make that choice,
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Speaker 9: and then I make it a choice as a person,
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Speaker 9: not society defining it for me, or my job not
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Speaker 9: allowing me to make those choices. If we're talking about barriers,
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Speaker 9: because I was saying I don't really think there are
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Speaker 9: necessarily barriers in itself, is just choices. But if there
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Speaker 9: was a barrier, I would select, would be the expectation.
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Speaker 9: There are so many because of these traditional gender roles allocation.
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Speaker 9: You said, you imagine a truck driver, you imagine a male,
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Speaker 9: maybe you think about a nurse, and you think about
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Speaker 9: a woman, right, that would be the stereotype that I
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Speaker 9: would try to break. A profession is a profession, A job.
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Speaker 5: Is a job like that.
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Speaker 11: In the past, we had these mindset in which only
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Speaker 11: men worked hard and women had other goals in life,
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Speaker 11: and I see this it's changing fortunately, also very much
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Speaker 11: with the new generations, and everything's just fine. You know,
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Speaker 11: there are men that have also other goals in life
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Speaker 11: and women who also like to work hard. So I'm
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Speaker 11: very happy to see how the new generations are bringing
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Speaker 11: these topics to our agendas, to our discussions. And I'd
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Speaker 11: say it's not a linear way of approaching it. It's
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Speaker 11: just considering that there are different goals in life. Or
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Speaker 11: opinions or life situations which it's not only related to gender.
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Speaker 11: I still see those barriers when I speak to women
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Speaker 11: in consulting. There still exists these difference between women in consulting,
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Speaker 11: especially as an engineer or in supply chain in logistics
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Speaker 11: in which it's mostly men industry. Still, I'm very happy
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Speaker 11: to see that there are every time more and more
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Speaker 11: women in this field, but I know there still exists barrier,
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Speaker 11: and I feel it's very important from our leaders and
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Speaker 11: our leadership to empower these women in consulting in front
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Speaker 11: of our clients, our audiences, our publics, our external publics,
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Speaker 11: to give these women the power to lead their projects,
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Speaker 11: their clients, to manage different situations, and not to have
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Speaker 11: it limited to men, which usually happened in the past.
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Speaker 6: I slowly see more women being present in the logistics
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Speaker 6: and management positions, and I also see more campaigns with
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Speaker 6: the focus on supporting women, not only in BIBA, but
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Speaker 6: also in other companies with let's say, an engineering focus.
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Speaker 6: Doesn't need to be only logistics, but with this more
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Speaker 6: technical engineering focus, and I think this increases in general
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Speaker 6: the visibility of women in logistics and engineering, which I
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Speaker 6: think is very important because I think it's not only
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Speaker 6: to have women in this engineering or technical topics. I
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Speaker 6: think it's really to support in terms of having female
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Speaker 6: role models and mentors to look up. And I think, yeah,
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Speaker 6: with this development I see in the last years, I
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Speaker 6: think this is going in the right direction.
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Speaker 5: We still need to have more representation, like in the
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Speaker 5: higher manager level. I think if we're using that part yet,
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Speaker 5: so we're working for that.
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Speaker 2: I agree. I spoke with one of our other colleagues
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Speaker 2: this morning saying that for an organization that we do
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Speaker 2: focus a lot on continuous improvement, both for our clients
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Speaker 2: and internally. We are always looking to improve process as
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Speaker 2: is cut waste, streamline, but looking for improvement at every
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Speaker 2: step of growth. And that is one thing that we
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Speaker 2: do continue to look at is are we looking for
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Speaker 2: and are we teaching? Are we enabling? Are we training
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Speaker 2: our female members on what it requires in order to
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Speaker 2: take some of these leadership positions and some of these
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Speaker 2: more managerial roles. Are we giving the women the opportunity
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Speaker 2: to sit at that table as opposed to just saying, oh, no,
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Speaker 2: that's that's where the men play, and we don't we
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Speaker 2: look for ways to encourage the women in our organization
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Speaker 2: to reach and to expand their careers and their capabilities
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Speaker 2: beyond maybe what they thought they would do. I mean,
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Speaker 2: a consultant doesn't usually go into it saying I'm going
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Speaker 2: to be a shareholder of my consultancy in fifteen years,
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Speaker 2: that's my goal. Perhaps they do, but a lot of
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Speaker 2: times it's just following, as you said, following what you
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Speaker 2: enjoyed doing and where you felt that you wanted to
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Speaker 2: participate in your career and finding the places that really
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Speaker 2: felt best, whether it's that one supply chain class that
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Speaker 2: did it for you and brought you into the logistics area.
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Speaker 2: Just following that, oh, this is interesting and I want
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Speaker 2: to do this, or this is interesting and I want
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Speaker 2: to try that, and finding out where it leads you
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Speaker 2: without having any ceiling that you're going to come up
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Speaker 2: against to say this is as far as you get
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Speaker 2: to go.
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Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 2: The landscape is shifting and companies like Mibach are playing
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Speaker 2: a role in making that happen. But as we move forward,
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Speaker 2: what else can we do to support women in supply
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Speaker 2: chain and logistics. Beyond individual career growth, real progress comes
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Speaker 2: from organizational change. Here's some advice for companies that truly
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Speaker 2: want to make a difference.
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Speaker 9: Actually, I haven't gotten the certification yet, but I did
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Speaker 9: put the effort to study, and I could see and
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Speaker 9: even him he recognized as to while you've maybe six
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Speaker 9: months later I had a significant growth in those areas.
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Speaker 9: And then afterwards he was no longer my boss for
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Speaker 9: other different reasons. But at least that allowed me to
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Speaker 9: have an incredible growth in like six months, just simply
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Speaker 9: because I was very annoyed at the no.
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Speaker 2: Hell, hath no fury like a woman scorned.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, something like that. But opportunity or not is like
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Speaker 9: it resulted in what I actually needed at the end
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Speaker 9: of the day, but not in a happy way. I
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Speaker 9: feel like there's so many other ways you could motivate
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Speaker 9: someone to learn, but it had a good result.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. He could have said yes, and you'd be like, oh, okay,
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Speaker 2: I guess I'm doing this, and it would have been
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Speaker 2: the same result, but with a different attitude behind it,
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Speaker 2: a different drive.
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Speaker 9: Exactly.
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Speaker 5: I still don't know, do you really have to work
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Speaker 5: harder because if you're a female or not, I'm not sure.
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Speaker 5: But once he discovered that I was doing a good all,
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Speaker 5: then he started treating me differently. And at some point
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Speaker 5: I moved from being nobody to Carolita, which was like
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Speaker 5: a very nice way to call me, and it was
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Speaker 5: how are you today. I was like, Wow, that's an
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Speaker 5: important step for me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an important step in everyone's career.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, or or they have we have this other
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Speaker 5: client that every time we will go to his office again.
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Speaker 5: I was working with the same female manager and he
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Speaker 5: would say, oh, these little girls are coming here again,
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Speaker 5: and you will sound like is this right or is
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Speaker 5: it not correct? The way that you're treating us, And
20:43
Speaker 5: then he will say, oh, everything that you are presenting
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Speaker 5: to us, I already know all this information. Now you're
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Speaker 5: not doing anything extra for us whatever. And once we
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Speaker 5: started developing the project, then we want his trust and
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Speaker 5: then he realized, Okay, these two girls are really doing
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Speaker 5: a good job. He kept using the little girls phrase
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Speaker 5: to bel but at least he changed the way he
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Speaker 5: treated us because he knew we were working really hard
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Speaker 5: to give him a good solution.
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Speaker 6: What keeps me here today at Biberch and the Supply
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Speaker 6: Chain Consulting, it's the different projects and the goals we
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Speaker 6: are working for for our clients. Our projects often have
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Speaker 6: a very big impact on our clients' business and are
21:37
Speaker 6: therefore very important for our clients, and this gives them
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Speaker 6: a high priority. They have a clear start, a clear
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Speaker 6: goal to work towards, and this I find really fulfilling
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Speaker 6: and rewarding to work for those kind of projects. And
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Speaker 6: of course what is the best for me because I'm
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Speaker 6: working in our engineer services. The best is really too
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Speaker 6: in a realization phase to see become life and become
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Speaker 6: reality what you've planned for months.
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Speaker 8: And years before. That is really the best part for me.
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Speaker 2: Those moments of recognition when you realize your work matters,
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Speaker 2: your contributions are valued and you belong are what make
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Speaker 2: the challenges all worthwhile. But to create more of these
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Speaker 2: moments for future generations, we need to keep pushing for progress.
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Speaker 2: What barriers still exist and how can we break them?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so that will be the wage discrequency and that
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Speaker 8: will be also maybe something that Jenna also mentioned before.
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Speaker 8: So it was mainly male dominated the supply chain and
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Speaker 8: the logistic and I want to show that even being
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Speaker 8: feminine we can fully be part of this world. For example,
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Speaker 8: people picture a truck driver as a male, or at
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Speaker 8: least a female looks like a male. No, we can
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Speaker 8: still be semini even working in a world mainly dominated
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Speaker 8: by male So I don't want to sacrifice my humanity
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Speaker 8: for that.
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Speaker 11: I would suggest all women to always speak up their opinions.
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Speaker 11: There are points of view to address. If they are
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Speaker 11: not feeling comfortable with a situation with a person with anything,
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Speaker 11: to speak it up. To also find those people in
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Speaker 11: which they can feel comfortable to address topics, to speak topics,
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Speaker 11: and I feel in my role as a human resources professional,
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Speaker 11: I also have this responsibility to be next to women
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Speaker 11: to also accompany them whenever they have a situation in
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Speaker 11: which we can work it out together. So yeah, my
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Speaker 11: advice would be to always speak up what they feel.
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Speaker 5: We need to have more, at least a couple of
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Speaker 5: female in this right so you can see that there's
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Speaker 5: more and.
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Speaker 2: Are you applying for that or are you vuying for
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Speaker 2: that job?
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 5: But on the other hand, I have to say that
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Speaker 5: all these flexibility models that we've been working for people development,
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Speaker 5: it's developing also in favor of females, and they're trying
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Speaker 5: to balance with their own families when you want to
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Speaker 5: have babies. I have two kids, and I never felt
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Speaker 5: left behind because I wanted to be a mother. So
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Speaker 5: it's being a nice place so far. So and I
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Speaker 5: hope other candidates can notice how great this this is,
24:38
Speaker 5: that we have a nice company that takes care of
24:41
Speaker 5: you and we are aware of this situation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I forget who I was speaking to. It
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Speaker 2: was one of the other interviews I did yesterday, and
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Speaker 2: she said that the balancing the better balance of parental
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Speaker 2: leave to include men has actually done more than doing
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Speaker 2: anything for the women, because then the men get to
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Speaker 2: experience that they see that parenthood is something that they
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Speaker 2: should be a part of their families. But not only that,
25:11
Speaker 2: that they understand the sacrifices that people male or female
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Speaker 2: do make for their families in order to advance their
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Speaker 2: careers and put in the effort at work. And it's
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Speaker 2: not gender based, it's just work. Having a family is work,
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Speaker 2: and it requires parents, and it requires a workplace that
25:35
Speaker 2: gives you that flexibility to be there for your kids
25:39
Speaker 2: when they get sick or when they have a school play.
25:43
Speaker 2: And it shouldn't just be the moms doing that. It
25:45
Speaker 2: should absolutely be the father's being present in their children's lives.
25:50
Speaker 2: And the more that we open that up to them
25:52
Speaker 2: and have them into the traditional mom spaces. I think
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Speaker 2: the more mom spaces are going to open up in
25:59
Speaker 2: various companies to enable the women to then achieve those
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Speaker 2: higher statuses within their organization because of that flexibility that
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Speaker 2: you were just mentioning.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, totally agree.
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Speaker 2: The road to equity isn't just about increasing representation. It's
26:16
Speaker 2: about changing the structures that make it difficult for women
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Speaker 2: to rise from wage gaps to outdated expectations. There's still
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Speaker 2: work to be done, So what's the next step. Let's
26:26
Speaker 2: hear from these women on the barriers they see and
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Speaker 2: what they believe needs to change to create a truly
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Speaker 2: inclusive industry.
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Speaker 9: I don't want to say it was a turning point
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Speaker 9: in my career or so impactful, but when I think back,
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Speaker 9: it really has shaped the way my career goes into
26:44
Speaker 9: them and basically I will still find your personal brand,
26:51
Speaker 9: what defines you and what other people take away when
26:55
Speaker 9: they meet with you. So I went ahead and I
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Speaker 9: did it, and I think the reason why it you
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Speaker 9: can imagine why it's not so impactful, but it shapes
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Speaker 9: my career. It's because it gives me this both levels
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Speaker 9: of curiosity of it started the curiosity of who I
27:15
Speaker 9: am what do I want to leave behind with the
27:18
Speaker 9: people I interact with? And that has always been very
27:21
Speaker 9: important for me, and it also has a component of
27:24
Speaker 9: self compassion as well. I am a certain way and
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Speaker 9: that's okay because that defines my branding and a lot
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Speaker 9: of people will find that useful if I use it
27:37
Speaker 9: in an empowering way.
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Speaker 8: The biggest piece of advice that I had in my
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Speaker 8: career was from a woman. So she used to be
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Speaker 8: one of my manager and mentor. When I used to
27:52
Speaker 8: managers threepl on a daily basis, I used to do
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Speaker 8: lots of garbage hours, if I can say, and not
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Speaker 8: being very efficient and productive. And she was a very
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Speaker 8: strong and independent woman, and I was always like, how
28:10
Speaker 8: are you able to manage your work day so efficiently
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Speaker 8: and so productively? And she told me, you need to
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Speaker 8: read the four Hour of Workship by Tom Perris, so
28:22
Speaker 8: work smarter and work harder. And I think that was
28:27
Speaker 8: the biggest piece of advice that she gave to me
28:30
Speaker 8: because that kind of helped me, okay, prioritize things better,
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Speaker 8: and that helped me also go through my daily challenges
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Speaker 8: within the warehouse. So I think that was one of
28:43
Speaker 8: the biggest piece of advice that she gave to me.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
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Speaker 4: I think it's following what you're really interested in and
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Speaker 4: what makes you happy and what you enjoy doing. And
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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what you feel, it is what the
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Speaker 4: industry it is. I think the most important thing is
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Speaker 4: that it makes you happy, because I think if people
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Speaker 4: are happy, they can do the best as they can
29:03
Speaker 4: do and they can be the best. And the Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I think we all know that if we do something
29:08
Speaker 4: what makes us happy, yeah, we can do best and
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Speaker 4: be best and also inspire others. So yeah, I would
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Speaker 4: tell this two young women. Don't hear about what others
29:18
Speaker 4: say if you should or shouldn't do anything. Just yeah,
29:21
Speaker 4: try to hear in your inner self with what you
29:24
Speaker 4: really enjoy and where you feel. Just feel good and
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Speaker 4: thee oh, the rest we'll figure out for itself. When
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Speaker 4: I started working for me Bach, I never really thought
29:33
Speaker 4: about if I can one day combine the job with
29:36
Speaker 4: a family or not. For example, I just knew I
29:39
Speaker 4: would like to do that now because when I started working,
29:42
Speaker 4: I was I don't know, in my mid twenties, so
29:44
Speaker 4: family was like far away. But then when I started
29:47
Speaker 4: I saw the woman at me Berg being a consultant
29:50
Speaker 4: for many years and having children, so I thought, oh,
29:53
Speaker 4: that's so cool that it can work, even though I
29:56
Speaker 4: never thought about it. So I also I never doubted
29:59
Speaker 4: it or anything. It was just kind of not yeah
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Speaker 4: in my mind.
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Speaker 2: The future of this industry depends on diverse voices, and
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Speaker 2: women are shaping it every day, but we can't do
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Speaker 2: it alone. Change happens when companies commit to inclusivity, when
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Speaker 2: allies amplify underrepresented voices, and when each of us encourages
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Speaker 2: the next generation to follow their passion. Thank you for listening.
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