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FULL SHOW: Nicki Minaj Calls NY Gov Kathy Hochul An ‘Evil Woman’, Hochul Responds + Tessa Spencer Interview · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Woke up, woke up, wake you up, wake you up,
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Speaker 2: Good morning, USA!
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Speaker 2: I can tell Jess ran over here, boy. She breathing hard.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, y'all.
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Speaker 2: You made it on time.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I got a job to do.
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Speaker 5: That is true. But, I mean, you know, once you're late,
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Speaker 5: you're late.
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Speaker 6: No, I'm not late.
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Speaker 4: One more time, y'all.
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Speaker 2: She was not late.
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Speaker 5: I think it's part of your aesthetic.
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 4: Nah, for real.
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Speaker 7: Nah, nah, nah.
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? No, y'all.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Well, how you feeling, Sharla?
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Speaker 7: Handsome.
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Speaker 5: Oh, that's a damn lie.
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Speaker 2: Come on, for real. Come on, now.
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Speaker 5: All jokes aside, my skin's skinning.
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Speaker 4: No, you're right.
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Speaker 1: It's been skinning since Monday. Drop on a clothesline for Dr.
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Speaker 1: Natasha Sandy, okay? And I haven't even seen her. You
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? I'm just using her products. But
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Speaker 1: the skin is skinning.
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Speaker 4: I literally do not believe you. You didn't go see
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Speaker 4: her over the weekend.
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Speaker 5: I have not had a chemical peel in a minute.
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Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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Speaker 2: I need one.
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Speaker 1: No, I want a chemical peel, but I haven't had
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Speaker 1: one in a minute. But yes, my skin is skinning
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Speaker 1: this morning. And sometimes you just look in the morning,
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Speaker 1: and you see that, and you should acknowledge it. This
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Speaker 1: guy's crazy. You should acknowledge that your skin is skinning.
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Speaker 1: Shop for the Clues bombs for this melanin just over here,
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Speaker 1: polished and glowing.
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Speaker 5: It's okay, okay.
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Speaker 2: This guy is crazy.
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Speaker 5: Why am I crazy?
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Speaker 1: I want everybody to love the skin they're in because
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Speaker 1: I love mine this morning.
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Speaker 4: That's right. Just like Kirk Franklin.
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Speaker 2: I love mine this morning. Thank you so much. Oh, Lord.
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Speaker 3: All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Tessa Spencer
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Speaker 3: will be joining.
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Speaker 5: Us this morning. Man, salute to Tessa Spencer. Tessa's one
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Speaker 5: of my OGs.
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Speaker 1: She is a radio personality, TV personality in Charleston, South Carolina,
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Speaker 1: the 843. When I was first getting my start as
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Speaker 1: an intern and a young radio personality in Charleston, South Carolina,
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Speaker 1: she poured.
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Speaker 5: Into me a lot. And she has.
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Speaker 1: An incredible story, but an incredible organization called Save Our
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Speaker 1: Sons and Daughters SC, which translates to So Sad. And
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Speaker 1: it is a community-centered nonprofit organization she founded after losing
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Speaker 1: her son Julian, rest in peace to Julian, to suicide.
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Speaker 1: So she'll be here to talk about that and a
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Speaker 1: whole lot more, man. She has navigated her grief in
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Speaker 1: ways that, you know, I think are very empowering to
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Speaker 1: people that are dealing with grief.
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Speaker 5: So, Can't wait to talk to Tessa this morning. All right.
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Speaker 2: And the sad thing about it is I remember.
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Speaker 3: This had to be, what, about eight months ago, maybe
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Speaker 3: a year ago, when you actually got the call.
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Speaker 2: Because you were up here when you got that call.
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Speaker 6: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: That's so weird.
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Speaker 3: And I remember you telling me, like, damn, my friends
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Speaker 3: and we go through. And it just makes me think
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Speaker 3: about it all the time.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 5: I think it was a little longer than eight months ago.
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Speaker 2: About a year ago?
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But I remember you was up here because it hit you.
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Speaker 3: And I just remember your face when it happened and
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Speaker 3: how hurt you were.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, let's get the show cracking. What do you
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Speaker 2: want to start with this morning?
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Speaker 5: Oh, man. I was in a New Edition mood this morning.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why I woke up this morning and
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Speaker 1: I was just, the spirit of New Edition was on me.
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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know why. I just woke up
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Speaker 5: this morning, I feel like looking into some New Edition.
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Speaker 4: So which song? Choose wisely.
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Speaker 5: What we got, Red.
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Speaker 1: Come on now. If it is in love.
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Speaker 4: If it is in love.
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Speaker 5: You can never go wrong with this.
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Speaker 2: Now, New Edition is the concert, the artist I've seen
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Speaker 2: the most in concert.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 2: Like, every time they perform, I go see them. You're
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Speaker 2: always there. Even if I'm by myself.
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Speaker 5: Well, could you let them sing?
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Speaker 1: All right, it's the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 7: Come on in.
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Speaker 2: Drop on the clothes bombs for.
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Speaker 5: New Edition, okay?
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Speaker 1: New Edition needs to be protected at all costs, okay?
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Speaker 1: You have to preserve culture when it comes to New Edition,
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Speaker 1: all right? Because this generation will start making up stupid
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Speaker 1: lies and telling you that One Direction.
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Speaker 5: Was better than New Edition.
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Speaker 1: Who the hell said that?
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Speaker 5: I don't know, but whoever did, we'll clear a table
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Speaker 5: for them.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
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Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 8: Shoot.
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Speaker 2: That's when you can listen to a song for like five,
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Speaker 2: six minutes. Oh, I know. And you know the ad-libs
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Speaker 2: to the end of the song.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 8: Yes.
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Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 2: Good morning.
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Speaker 4: Doing the instruments and everything.
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 4: Like, yo, please.
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Speaker 2: Morning, Michael Bivins. I know Michael Bivins listens every morning.
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Speaker 5: That's my guy. Drop on the Clues Bonds for Biv, man.
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Speaker 2: Salute to Biv. All right.
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Speaker 5: Well, morning, everybody.
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Speaker 2: We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front
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Speaker 2: page news. Now, congratulations to the Milwaukee Brewers. They won
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Speaker 2: the World Series yesterday.
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Speaker 4: I knew they was going to win.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy that tens of millions of people have been
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Speaker 1: watching these games, and it felt quiet. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Probably wasn't quiet in Milwaukee. I'm sure it wasn't quiet
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Speaker 5: in Tampa.
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Speaker 2: But, boy.
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Speaker 4: Shout out to y'all.
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Speaker 1: I didn't care.
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Speaker 2: But congratulations for the Brewers.
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Speaker 3: They beat the Rays in Game 5 to win their
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Speaker 3: first World Series title in franchise history.
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Speaker 1: And I love Milwaukee. Drop on the Clues Bonds for Milwaukee.
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Speaker 1: That is the first city to ever syndicate the breakfast clubs.
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Speaker 5: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Milwaukee will always hold a special place in my heart.
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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely.
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Speaker 2: What's up, Mimi?
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Speaker 10: Good morning, guys.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you got your voice back.
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Speaker 8: Is it back?
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Speaker 2: Is it back?
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Speaker 4: It's back, girl. All right, here we go. Good, because
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Speaker 4: it was... Touch and go all week. All right.
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Speaker 10: Los Angeles, where the race for mayor is now in
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Speaker 10: a dead heat, with less than a week left until
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Speaker 10: midterm elections, until Election Day. So a new UC Berkeley
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Speaker 10: Los Angeles Time poll shows Mayor Karen Bass and challenger.
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Speaker 10: Nithya Raman tied at 40% with 19% of voters still undecided.
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Speaker 10: But that's a major turnaround for Bass, who erased an
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Speaker 10: 11-point lead with Raman that she had just last month.
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Speaker 10: I sat down with Mayor Bass yesterday to discuss homelessness, immigration, affordability,
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Speaker 10: and why she believes she deserves another four years. We
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Speaker 10: started with homelessness, which is a top concern for voters,
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Speaker 10: with 43% saying that reducing encampments is their biggest priority.
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Speaker 2: Let's listen.
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Speaker 11: The program that we're using with Inside Save has been
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Speaker 11: the only successful model in clearing encampments. And what is
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Speaker 11: fundamentally different is prior to my administration, outreach workers would
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Speaker 11: come and they would pick and choose one individual person
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Speaker 11: in an encampment, which is why the encampment never went away.
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Speaker 11: We understand that encampments are many communities. And so what
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Speaker 11: we do when we go in to clear out an encampment.
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Speaker 2: We house everybody.
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Speaker 10: You know, your opponent, Nithya Raman, she's criticized your handling
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Speaker 10: of homelessness, saying the city has spent millions of dollars
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Speaker 10: on Inside Safe without accountability or lasting results. Now, she's
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Speaker 10: promising to cut street homelessness before or in half before
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Speaker 10: the 2028 Olympics.
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Speaker 4: Is that realistic? No, it's not only unrealistic, but realistic.
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Speaker 11: It's laughable considering that every single dollar that has been
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Speaker 11: spent on homelessness is approved by Nithya Raman.
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Speaker 4: I am the mayor.
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Speaker 11: I put forward expenditures. This council approves it. She, until
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Speaker 11: she was fired, was the chair of the homelessness committee.
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Speaker 11: So all of the expenses went through her committee, could
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Speaker 11: not be spent without her approval.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 4: So that was her take on homelessness.
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Speaker 10: And we also talked about President Trump's immigration raids in
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Speaker 10: Los Angeles. You know, L.A. was one of the first
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Speaker 10: states where he sent a militarized troop to, you know,
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Speaker 10: respond to immigration.
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Speaker 4: And this is how she responded.
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Speaker 10: What has it been like trying to lead a city
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Speaker 10: while going head to head with the White House?
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Speaker 11: I had no problem. on day one, saying this was
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Speaker 11: an egregious affront to U.S. democracy to send troops that
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Speaker 11: no one asked for and were not needed. I understood
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Speaker 11: that we were being used as an experiment. I was
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Speaker 11: on the phone three days later with over 120 mayors,
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Speaker 11: letting them know what was happening because I knew that
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Speaker 11: what was starting here was going to go to other cities.
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Speaker 11: I also knew that if we didn't stand up, the
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Speaker 11: message that that would send throughout the country would have
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Speaker 11: been chilling. And we demonstrated for the world how to resist,
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Speaker 11: how to stand up.
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Speaker 1: I feel like optics-wise, there's a lot of things that
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Speaker 1: Mayor Bass is hard to overcome, right? Like when you
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Speaker 1: think about the wildfires and, you know, when she faced
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Speaker 1: scrutiny for being out of the country during the wildfires.
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Speaker 1: And when you think about, like, the affordability in L.A.,
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Speaker 1: the high housing costs, you know, the visible homelessness that
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Speaker 1: you can see, right?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The crime concerns that you can actually feel. I feel
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Speaker 1: like those optics are very hard to overcome.
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Speaker 4: And we got into all of those.
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Speaker 10: We got into affordability, what she plans to do with
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Speaker 10: reducing housing, the cost of housing, transportation, child care. She
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Speaker 10: talked about that. And we even talked about the wildfires.
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Speaker 10: She talked about, you know, where she stands and what
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Speaker 10: she's doing. with Palisades because Altadena is not, she's not
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Speaker 10: the mayor of Altadena, she's not the mayor of Malibu.
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Speaker 10: And so she was talking about specifically what she's doing
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Speaker 10: with the Pacific Palisades and meeting their insurance claim, their
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Speaker 10: concerns and rebuilding the housing there.
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Speaker 4: And there is a.
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Speaker 10: Councilwoman there, Tracy Park, who is basically voting for her,
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Speaker 10: even though she's not endorsing her.
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Speaker 4: She is voting for her over her opponent. So I
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Speaker 4: asked her about that as well.
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Speaker 1: I guess it's just tough because, you know, there's things
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Speaker 1: that have happened that have impacted people negatively that you
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Speaker 1: can see and feel.
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Speaker 5: So what have you done.
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Speaker 1: That has impacted people positively that people can see and feel?
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: I mean, I think we talked about both of those
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Speaker 10: things in this interview, which is on my podcast front
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Speaker 10: page with Mimi Brown on the Black Effect Podcast Network.
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Speaker 10: And this entire interview will also be on the YouTube
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Speaker 10: page of The Breakfast Club. But we got into all
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Speaker 10: of that. And she also makes the case of why
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Speaker 10: voters should give her four more years, you know, and
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Speaker 10: what she what she plans to do differently and what
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Speaker 10: she's learned and. admits that she made mistakes, but she
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Speaker 10: said that she's made a strong foundation for the city.
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Speaker 2: Gotcha. You're an L.A. resident?
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Speaker 4: I am an L.A. resident.
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Speaker 5: Who you voting for? Don't say it.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I won't say it. All right, y'all.
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Speaker 10: they spent their life savings. They thought they were going
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Speaker 10: to be on their dream retirement, but now it has
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Speaker 10: all fallen apart.
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Speaker 4: We'll tell you what's behind that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on
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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. Hello, good morning.
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Speaker 13: Good morning. Good morning.
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Speaker 2: We have our blind listener on the line, Chantel.
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Speaker 5: Why you have to point out that she blind?
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Speaker 4: She can hear us. I'm not blind.
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Speaker 14: I just love Charlamagne.
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Speaker 13: You can't be mad because his skin is skinnier today.
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Speaker 2: What's wrong with you?
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Speaker 4: You can't be mad.
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Speaker 15: Look at him. I love you, Charlamagne.
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Speaker 2: I love you, too. You got bad eyes.
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Speaker 5: I don't understand your hate. I don't get it.
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Speaker 13: In South Carolina all day.
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Speaker 15: What is he talking about?
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Speaker 4: She from down there.
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Speaker 8: You already know.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 16: No, it's not just because I'm from South Carolina.
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Speaker 15: It's because Charlamagne just signed.
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Speaker 2: How many fingers am I holding up?
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Speaker 12: One.
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Speaker 2: How many fingers am I holding up? One.
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Speaker 6: I'm not on Netflix.
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Speaker 5: She's been looking at me for a long time.
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Speaker 12: I have.
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Speaker 15: I really have.
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Speaker 13: All my baby daddies is haters because I love traveling.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: How many baby daddies is that?
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 6: I got three.
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Speaker 16: I got three.
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Speaker 5: And we listen and we don't judge, okay?
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Speaker 7: We don't.
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Speaker 1: We do not judge, all right?
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 7: Have a good morning, Charlamagne.
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Speaker 6: I love you.
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Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Have a good morning, Charlamagne. Appreciate you.
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Speaker 5: Charlamagne and just Charlamagne.
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Speaker 8: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: If she had said you was ugly.
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Speaker 1: You would have listened and judged.
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't have listened.
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Speaker 1: I got too much confidence in myself to ever hear
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Speaker 1: such negativity.
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Speaker 2: Hello, who's this?
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Speaker 7: Hey, what's going on, Charlamagne?
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Speaker 5: Peace, King. How you doing, brother?
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Speaker 2: All right, yeah, lay it on.
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Speaker 17: I'm doing okay.
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Speaker 16: What's up, my council brother? Hey, my name is Isaac.
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Speaker 7: I'm calling from Houston, Texas. Man, I want to give
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Speaker 7: a shout-out to my wife. Her birthday was this month.
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Speaker 7: We had a good event for a month. But my
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Speaker 7: topic I wanted to bring up or get off my chest.
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Speaker 16: Was people interfering.
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Speaker 7: With other people's relationships. Your friend sees a friend, spouse,
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Speaker 7: maybe cheating or doing something they ain't supposed to do.
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Speaker 7: people have an opinion that whether.
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Speaker 16: They feel like they need to intervene in.
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Speaker 7: A relationship, right? And which is cool if you expect that.
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Speaker 16: I respect that. But my thing is, why is it
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Speaker 16: a bias that if a person says, hey, I will
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Speaker 16: tell my friend if they are.
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Speaker 7: Cheating, if they're being cheated on, but I won't tell
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Speaker 7: on my friend if my friend is cheating. So I
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Speaker 7: question the motive of people who intervene in people's relationships
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Speaker 7: because if your motive isn't pure cheating, Yeah, I question
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Speaker 7: what you, why would you tell, why would you keep it,
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Speaker 7: if you care about the bond. If you care about
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Speaker 7: the bond and your unity, if you like what's good
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Speaker 7: for them, I like those people together. I like what
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Speaker 7: they got. And you see someone who blemished their image
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Speaker 7: or someone who's messing it up, then you want to
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Speaker 7: keep it together. So you may come and tell them, hey,
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Speaker 7: he's doing this or he's doing that. But if you're
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Speaker 7: just one-sided, I feel like that's an unreasonable bias.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have no problem with, you know, checking
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Speaker 1: a homie if they out there doing something they ain't
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Speaker 1: got no business doing in regards to their wife.
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Speaker 5: You know?
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Speaker 1: You gotta let your homie know this gonna end bad.
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Speaker 1: It's just like when you see somebody, you know, selling
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Speaker 1: dope or, you know, they committing crimes. Like, bro, you
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Speaker 1: know you're gonna end up in jail or dead, right?
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Speaker 5: Like, one of those two.
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Speaker 1: So I feel the same way, you know, when you
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Speaker 1: see your homie out there doing something he ain't got
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Speaker 1: no business doing.
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Speaker 5: Don't bring that dirt around me.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: And we want to celebrate more years of marriage.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. That's right. Don't bring your dirt around me
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Speaker 1: because I'm snitching for real.
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Speaker 2: Because I'm snitching for real.
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Speaker 5: I know that's right. You ain't even got to worry
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Speaker 5: about that.
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Speaker 4: I know that's right. So when you go over to Mexico,
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Speaker 4: you see Chris wanting to meet us, you better call me.
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Speaker 5: That might be his cousin.
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Speaker 15: Right.
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Speaker 4: We don't even know. Exactly.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 8: Wow.
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Speaker 18: One of my younger cousins did that to me one time.
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Speaker 18: This was years, years, years ago. I'm at the house asleep.
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Speaker 18: My phone ring. I'm answering the phone. And this is,
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Speaker 18: I don't know if it's his baby mama or girlfriend.
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Speaker 18: And she was like, was he with you last night?
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Speaker 5: And I was like, nope.
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Speaker 1: I was absolutely positively not.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 2: And he wasn't.
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Speaker 4: He put you in a lie and didn't even tell you.
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Speaker 1: He didn't even give me the heads up. But even
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Speaker 1: if he did, I would be like, nope, nope, nope.
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Speaker 5: Don't put me in that. Get it off your chest.
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Speaker 15: 800-585-1051.
14:35
Speaker 5: It's The Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: Good morning.
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Speaker 7: Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlamagne, Envy, what up?
14:43
Speaker 4: Are we live?
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Speaker 2: This is your time to get it off your chest.
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Speaker 7: I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool.
14:48
Speaker 2: We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 15: We can get on the phone right now.
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Speaker 7: He'll tell you what it is.
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Speaker 16: Are we live?
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Speaker 1: Hello, who's this?
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Speaker 2: Hey, man.
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Speaker 19: Hey, this is Armando from Northern Virginia, man.
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Speaker 2: How you guys doing? Hey, Armando.
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Speaker 4: What's up, man?
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Speaker 18: Hola.
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Speaker 2: Jess is here.
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Speaker 13: What's up? Hey, Charmaine.
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Speaker 2: And I'm not Mexican.
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Speaker 19: I'm just Hispanic, all right?
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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry. So, hola on the fly across the board?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hola.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And Armando.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I get what you're saying. We're very Mexican-friendly here. So,
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Speaker 1: you just think we assume you're Mexican. Yes.
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Speaker 5: Hola.
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Speaker 2: Como estas?
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Speaker 19: Now, you just hear me just giving you guys a
15:23
Speaker 19: first-time caller.
15:24
Speaker 15: Just say hi to you guys.
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Speaker 2: Jess.
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Speaker 19: Envy, Shaw, and I'm glad Mimi is back.
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Speaker 20: Yes.
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Speaker 2: What about La Rosa?
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Speaker 1: You don't want to say La Rosa this morning?
15:35
Speaker 5: La Rosa.
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Speaker 16: La Rosa.
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Speaker 1: Right, exactly.
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Speaker 4: La Rosa.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 19: Well, yeah, man, you guys can say hi. I watch
15:43
Speaker 19: you guys every day on Netflix.
15:46
Speaker 1: Okay.
15:47
Speaker 19: And then I just get on my chest about what
15:51
Speaker 19: Shaw was mentioning about the blackout.
15:53
Speaker 5: Yes, sir.
15:54
Speaker 19: I know people that work in the government, and they
15:58
Speaker 19: don't want to say anything much, but they just want
16:01
Speaker 19: to say we might not be able to watch the
16:04
Speaker 19: Super Bowl to Jay-Z, depending on how everything goes.
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Speaker 1: Listen, there was a way to tell us that without
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Speaker 1: saying that we weren't going to be able to watch
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with Jay-Z. Why does Jay-Z got to
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Speaker 1: be the goddamn epicenter of everything?
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Speaker 2: That was completely unnecessary.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 19: But I feel like a lot of people are not
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Speaker 19: saying too much about that. I don't know why.
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Speaker 5: They're not scared.
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Speaker 15: They're focused on all the other stuff besides that.
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Speaker 1: Man, there was a, there was a young brother who,
16:36
Speaker 1: you know what?
16:37
Speaker 2: No, nevermind.
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Speaker 5: No, I ain't going to say that.
16:38
Speaker 1: There was a young brother who came up to me
16:40
Speaker 1: at the mental wealth expo and he was acting very
16:43
Speaker 1: like suspicious, but it was because he was trying to
16:46
Speaker 1: tell me something because where he works at, he was
16:49
Speaker 1: telling me all of the things that they're preparing for.
16:52
Speaker 1: Cause it's some type of something with the military. And
16:54
Speaker 1: he was just like, man, I always listen to you
16:56
Speaker 1: on the radio, man. And you keep saying something's going
16:58
Speaker 1: to happen.
16:58
Speaker 5: Something's going to happen.
16:59
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I can see it. I can
17:02
Speaker 1: see it. They're preparing for something.
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Speaker 15: Yeah.
17:04
Speaker 19: That's true. But yeah, I just want to give you
17:07
Speaker 19: guys a shout out. I watch you guys every day, so.
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Speaker 5: Keep it up, man. Thank you, brother.
17:12
Speaker 2: All right, man.
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Speaker 5: He told me this on October 10th.
17:14
Speaker 2: Did he tell you what was going to happen?
17:17
Speaker 5: He did, but I don't remember. I just know it
17:19
Speaker 5: was something to do with the military.
17:20
Speaker 2: He told you so you could warn us and tell
17:22
Speaker 2: the public and tell me at least.
17:23
Speaker 1: He said he wrote a five-page letter about it.
17:26
Speaker 2: Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need
17:30
Speaker 2: to vent, you can hit us up. Hi, Lauren.
17:32
Speaker 6: Hey, y'all.
17:33
Speaker 2: Somebody called and said he looked cute today, so he
17:34
Speaker 2: feels himself. I heard.
17:36
Speaker 4: They said just skip. First of all, wasn't it Blind Beauty?
17:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
17:39
Speaker 4: What's her name?
17:40
Speaker 2: She was a blind listener. She was definitely a blind listener.
17:42
Speaker 5: First of all, your mom and grandma Ben told you
17:44
Speaker 5: I was handsome.
17:44
Speaker 2: We have the latest with Lauren coming up.
17:45
Speaker 4: We do have the latest. My aunts love Charlamagne.
17:48
Speaker 6: I don't know why.
17:49
Speaker 1: Because I'm handsome.
17:50
Speaker 4: We do have the latest coming up, guys. We do.
17:53
Speaker 14: We're going to have a conversation that was kicked off
17:56
Speaker 14: by Ayanla Vincent on Jason Lee's show.
17:58
Speaker 4: Did we as a community fail R.
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Speaker 1: Kelly?
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Speaker 2: We failed R. Kelly? We'll talk about it. R.
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Speaker 5: Kelly failed himself.
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Speaker 2: We will talk about it.
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Speaker 16: Come on, man.
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Speaker 1: Love Ayanla, though. We'll talk about it when we come back.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it when we come back. Okay, we'll
18:11
Speaker 1: talk about it when we come back.
18:12
Speaker 2: It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get to the
18:14
Speaker 2: latest with Lauren.
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Speaker 4: Lauren becoming a street fat.
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Speaker 2: Tell her. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
18:21
Speaker 2: She gets the details.
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Speaker 4: I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
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Speaker 5: She be having the latest on this.
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Speaker 2: The latest with Lauren La Rosa.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes she have facts, sometimes she have details, sometimes she
18:32
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18:34
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Speaker 4: Alrighty, y'all. Good morning.
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Speaker 17: Hey, girl.
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Speaker 5: Peace, LL Cool Bay, Top Dog Law.
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Speaker 4: How are y'all?
18:45
Speaker 1: Good.
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Speaker 14: So we are going to get into a conversation. So
18:48
Speaker 14: Jason Lee, you guys know he has the Jason Lee
18:50
Speaker 14: Show in partnership with BET.
18:51
Speaker 4: That's our guy.
18:53
Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
18:54
Speaker 14: Well, he sat down with Miss Ayanna Venzant. And they
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Speaker 14: had a conversation about healing, betrayal, you know, different fallouts
19:04
Speaker 14: that she's had. And Jason Lee does a part of
19:08
Speaker 14: the conversation where like he'll throw different names and you'll
19:10
Speaker 14: base conversations around that.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Now, R.
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Speaker 14: Kelly came up in the conversation as they're talking about
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Speaker 14: like community and things. Let's take a listen to the
19:18
Speaker 14: conversation that they had about whether or not the community
19:20
Speaker 14: felt R.
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Speaker 2: Kelly. R.
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Speaker 5: Kelly. Forgive me.
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Speaker 9: Forgive me as an elder in our community not being
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Speaker 9: available to support you. Forgive me for ignoring your pain.
19:32
Speaker 9: Forgive me for abandoning you.
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Speaker 2: Forgive me.
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Speaker 9: You felt like you abandoned him? Our entire community abandoned him.
19:39
Speaker 9: We abandoned Reed. How many people made how much money
19:43
Speaker 9: on him and nobody had enough compassion for their brother
19:47
Speaker 9: to sit him down two, three times a week to
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Speaker 9: teach him how to read? And then we want to
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Speaker 9: know why his heart and his soul was so distorted
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Speaker 9: and disturbed? Forgive me.
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Speaker 5: I love Ayaan Labanzan.
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Speaker 1: First of all, we honored her with the Mental Wealth
20:01
Speaker 1: Legacy Award this year at the Mental Wealth Expo.
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Speaker 4: We love Ayaan Labanzan.
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Speaker 5: But don't put Michael in that conversation.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: Totally different.
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Speaker 2: But we didn't fail. I didn't fail R.
20:08
Speaker 5: Kelly.
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Speaker 2: We didn't fail R. Kelly.
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Speaker 3: The fact that he could read or couldn't read doesn't,
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Speaker 3: you know, excuse the fact that he was, what, convicted
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Speaker 3: of statutory rape.
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Speaker 2: Is that correct? Well, that's what he was convicted of, right?
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Speaker 4: In a lot of it.
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Speaker 2: I didn't fail him. That was him.
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Speaker 6: I mean.
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Speaker 4: I.
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Speaker 1: Don't know what the exact charge was, but.
20:24
Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 14: I can break up the exact charges, but when I
20:26
Speaker 14: heard this in... and I was trying to think through
20:30
Speaker 14: the conversation. And that's what I was like, you know,
20:32
Speaker 14: from her side of it, I think she's talking about
20:34
Speaker 14: where the things that could have been put in place
20:36
Speaker 14: as far as like, uh, like a therapy and all
20:39
Speaker 14: of that things prior to all this stuff.
20:41
Speaker 4: Because when he was younger, it came out.
20:43
Speaker 21: Remember that documentary that they did or whatever, surviving on Kelly, whatever.
20:46
Speaker 21: And his brother was saying that he was being like
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Speaker 21: molested or whatever.
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Speaker 4: You feel me?
20:51
Speaker 14: So it just, when you say nobody got him, it just,
20:54
Speaker 14: it feels like it puts blame on, people outside of
20:57
Speaker 14: himself but I guess you in a situation like that
20:59
Speaker 14: when you are ill in the way that he is
21:03
Speaker 14: I would say you it's not just about you you
21:05
Speaker 14: do need outside help I don't know it's a very
21:07
Speaker 14: hard conversation but I didn't agree with.
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Speaker 3: Her either I think all Kelly was sick and had
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Speaker 3: a problem he needed help in that way.
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Speaker 5: But I didn't but you can't blame me but I
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Speaker 5: didn't fail him.
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Speaker 1: But that's exactly what she's saying. You just said it.
21:21
Speaker 1: She feels like you said it. He was sick and
21:24
Speaker 1: had a problem.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
21:25
Speaker 1: And that's what she's saying. People knew that he was
21:27
Speaker 1: sick and had a problem.
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Speaker 6: Exactly.
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Speaker 5: And nobody intervened. Nobody chose to help him.
21:30
Speaker 2: But that doesn't excuse what he did. Yeah, but that
21:31
Speaker 2: doesn't excuse.
21:32
Speaker 5: What he did.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday I was talking about when I gave Donkey of
21:35
Speaker 1: the Day to the little 15-year-old boy that did the
21:37
Speaker 1: shoot and that fam you, right?
21:38
Speaker 5: Correct.
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Speaker 1: And I said youth may explain a terrible decision. It
21:42
Speaker 1: does not excuse the damage that decision causes.
21:45
Speaker 6: That's right.
21:45
Speaker 1: The same applies with mental health issues, mental illness, and
21:48
Speaker 1: any trauma that you may have experienced in your life.
21:51
Speaker 1: Because your trauma is not your fault, but healing is
21:54
Speaker 1: your responsibility.
21:55
Speaker 2: And R.
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Speaker 1: Kelly had a lot of opportunities to change his behavior
21:58
Speaker 1: or to get the help he needs. And he chose
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Speaker 1: not to do that.
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Speaker 21: Whether he could read or not, he knew that he
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Speaker 21: had a problem. He knew he was sick and was like, yo, yeah,
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Speaker 21: I didn't say y'all any help.
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Speaker 3: He might not have known he had a problem. He
22:09
Speaker 3: might have thought that was okay. I mean, you don't
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Speaker 3: know what his mind frame was at that time.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he kept getting in trouble. He knew he had
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Speaker 5: a problem. He got arrested.
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Speaker 1: He knew he was doing something he had no business doing.
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Speaker 2: Why keep doing it if you keep getting in trouble?
22:19
Speaker 2: Because you're getting away with it.
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Speaker 4: And you're getting away with it too.
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Speaker 1: But once again, just because, you know, you have trauma
22:27
Speaker 1: that may explain a terrible decision or illness that may
22:31
Speaker 1: explain a terrible decision. It does not excuse the damage
22:33
Speaker 1: that decision causes. And I often think, you know, with
22:36
Speaker 1: these conversations, there's two things happening at once because on
22:39
Speaker 1: a human level, I'm not God. So when we talk
22:42
Speaker 1: about grace or forgiveness or healing or redemption, that's between R.
22:45
Speaker 1: Kelly and his creator. He got to go get the
22:47
Speaker 1: help he needs. But when it comes to me on
22:49
Speaker 1: a consumer level, if you choose to never listen to R.
22:52
Speaker 1: Kelly ever again or never support him ever again.
22:54
Speaker 5: That's fine.
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Speaker 12: Right.
22:56
Speaker 2: That's based on for you, how you feel. Yeah, absolutely right.
22:58
Speaker 4: And as far as the.
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Speaker 14: Convictions, I just wanted to, because we were talking about
23:02
Speaker 14: that a bit. In September 2021, a Brooklyn jury found R.
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Speaker 14: Kelly guilty on nine federal counts, including racketeering and violations
23:09
Speaker 14: of the Men Act. Prosecutors demonstrated that Kelly used employers
23:12
Speaker 14: and employees and associates to recruit, control, and exploit women
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Speaker 14: and underage girls. So he received a 30-year prison sentence
23:19
Speaker 14: in June of 2022. And then a separate federal trial
23:22
Speaker 14: in Chicago resulted in additional convictions against for producing child
23:25
Speaker 14: sexual abuse material and enticing minors. In February 2023, he
23:30
Speaker 14: received a 20-year sentence with all but one year running
23:34
Speaker 14: concurrently with the New York sentence.
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Speaker 5: Once again, I don't care if it's your.
23:38
Speaker 4: 31 years.
23:38
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's your youth, your trauma, your
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Speaker 1: mental illness, whatever sickness you're dealing with, whatever you want
23:43
Speaker 1: to call it.
23:44
Speaker 5: It may explain a terrible decision.
23:46
Speaker 1: It does not excuse the damage that decision causes. And
23:49
Speaker 1: you got to deal with the consequences of the damage
23:52
Speaker 1: that your decisions caused. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
23:54
Speaker 4: All righty.
23:55
Speaker 14: Well, speaking of decisions and some of the consequences that
23:58
Speaker 14: they may have, Nicki Minaj. You guys remember we talked
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Speaker 14: about her being out there and rallying for Trump.
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Speaker 13: Yes.
24:05
Speaker 14: Well, now there's a conversation that Nicki Minaj herself has
24:07
Speaker 14: decided to.
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Speaker 4: Start or jump into.
24:11
Speaker 14: She is having a conversation about New York Governor Kathy Hochul.
24:15
Speaker 14: So she posted on Twitter, Nicki Minaj, Kathy Hochul is
24:17
Speaker 14: an evil woman. The Democratic Party should forfeit her seat
24:20
Speaker 14: because even if she wins, she will be of great
24:23
Speaker 14: consequence to them. Downward spiral for her. She will not
24:26
Speaker 14: escape God's wrath. She did not denounce evil when she
24:29
Speaker 14: had the chance. She then posted a video of Kathy
24:32
Speaker 14: Hochul and Kathy Hochul's comments were about children, black children,
24:37
Speaker 14: knowing how to use a certain technology. And people were
24:40
Speaker 14: upset about that video. And Nicki Minaj posted it and said,
24:43
Speaker 14: how much more do you need to see and hear
24:44
Speaker 14: from them? How dare you as black people vote for
24:46
Speaker 14: this vile, wicked curse of a woman? How dare you
24:49
Speaker 14: as Christians? She stays silent on harm being caused to
24:52
Speaker 14: the innocent. And this is what she thinks of your children.
24:55
Speaker 14: Vote Blakeman.
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Speaker 1: What the hell?
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Speaker 4: So wait a minute.
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Speaker 21: Is Kathy Hochul the lady who like a minute ago
25:02
Speaker 21: was like, black kids don't even know what computers are.
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Speaker 4: Yes. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: That is her.
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Speaker 1: The governor of New York City.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she's the governor of New York City.
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Speaker 14: So that's the video that Nicki Minaj posted and then
25:11
Speaker 14: she called her evil woman. And Kathy Hochul has responded.
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Speaker 14: She said that Nicki Minaj's mind was poisoned.
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Speaker 1: Do we have the audio?
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Speaker 4: We should have the audio. Do we have the audio?
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Speaker 5: I don't want to hear you speak for Kathy.
25:21
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know for sure if we had it.
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Speaker 7: Here it goes. Here it goes.
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Speaker 14: That was just posted by Nicki Minaj saying that you're
25:28
Speaker 14: an evil woman and that the Democratic Party should forfeit
25:31
Speaker 14: her seat because even if she would win, she would be.
25:34
Speaker 4: Of great consequence to them. A downward spiral for her.
25:37
Speaker 6: She will not escape God's wrath.
25:39
Speaker 4: She did not denounce evil when she had the chance.
25:41
Speaker 2: What's your response to that?
25:51
Speaker 5: She said, stop going to Trump rallies because it kind
25:53
Speaker 5: of poisoned her mind.
25:54
Speaker 4: Yes.
25:54
Speaker 1: Listen, Nikki's words, her statement, it just lacks moral consistency.
25:59
Speaker 1: That's selective outrage, if you ask me, because you can
26:01
Speaker 1: have whatever, you know, political belief you want, but you
26:03
Speaker 1: need to hold everybody to the same moral standard, Nikki.
26:06
Speaker 5: Like, you support Donald Trump. And you can support Trump.
26:09
Speaker 1: That's your thing. If you want to support him, support him.
26:11
Speaker 1: But when you start using words like evil... And telling
26:14
Speaker 1: people God is going to punish them. Accusing other people
26:17
Speaker 1: of failing to condemn wrongdoing. Now I start to look
26:19
Speaker 1: at you crazy because do you know who you are
26:22
Speaker 1: even supporting? Do you apply the same moral standard to
26:25
Speaker 1: Trump that you apply to people like Kathy Hochul? Because
26:28
Speaker 1: who has had more moral controversies than Donald Trump? What
26:32
Speaker 1: are we talking about right now?
26:33
Speaker 2: Cut it out.
26:34
Speaker 1: Also, Nikki got to start talking to me about policy,
26:37
Speaker 1: not party. This isn't about Democrats and Republicans. This is
26:41
Speaker 1: about whose policies are helping or hurting the American people.
26:45
Speaker 5: Simple as that.
26:46
Speaker 2: Yes, it just seems strange.
26:47
Speaker 5: Talking to me about who God going to put.
26:49
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear nothing about morals when it
26:51
Speaker 1: comes to Donald Trump. You can't condemn nobody's morality when
26:56
Speaker 1: you support a person who's like Donald Trump. Who has
27:00
Speaker 1: had more moral controversies than Donald Trump? We were questioning
27:04
Speaker 1: his morals when he told you to stand up and
27:06
Speaker 1: show your ass.
27:07
Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie. I'm still not over that.
27:09
Speaker 5: And she's not questioning it.
27:11
Speaker 2: I'm still not over that.
27:11
Speaker 16: I'm still not over that.
27:12
Speaker 2: I'm still not over stand up and turn around.
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Speaker 1: Where's the moral consistency, Nicki?
27:16
Speaker 2: I'm still not.
27:17
Speaker 3: Nicki Minaj with the greatest ass and fattest ass I've
27:20
Speaker 3: ever seen.
27:20
Speaker 1: Stop the selective politicking, Nicki. Stop the selective outrage. Once again,
27:25
Speaker 1: you can have whatever political belief you want, but you
27:27
Speaker 1: got to hold everybody to the same moral standard, especially
27:30
Speaker 1: when you're standing.
27:30
Speaker 2: Next to Donald Trump.
27:31
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at you, how you feel about somebody,
27:33
Speaker 3: but like when it's, when it's in your backyard and
27:34
Speaker 3: he's talking about standing over and turning around and you
27:37
Speaker 3: don't check in his school and you laugh at all.
27:38
Speaker 5: He was, he was staring at her backyard. That was definitely.
27:41
Speaker 4: He definitely was. He definitely was.
27:43
Speaker 2: Made her turn around. Charlamagne, stand up and turn around.
27:46
Speaker 5: No disrespect.
27:46
Speaker 21: If we wasn't talking about this, you would have did it.
27:49
Speaker 14: But anyway, you guys get the latest from Lauren LaRosa
27:53
Speaker 14: from me. You know how you be up here acting,
27:57
Speaker 14: dropping it low. Anyway, that's the latest.
27:59
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28:03
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Speaker 2: All right. When we come back, we got front page news.
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Speaker 2: So don't go anywhere. It's The Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 5: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: Morning, everybody.
28:17
Speaker 3: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are
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Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
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Speaker 1: What's not the latest with Lawrence is front page with
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Speaker 1: Mimi Brown. And nobody in here was paying you attention
28:29
Speaker 1: to even correct you. Paul Mimi just sitting there looking like,
28:31
Speaker 1: maybe I am, Lauren.
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Speaker 5: Okay?
28:33
Speaker 1: She has no idea what the hell's going on. This
28:35
Speaker 1: whole room needs to shape up. I know, right?
28:39
Speaker 2: Lauren just walked in as well. All right, yes, let's
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Speaker 2: get into front page news. What's up, Mimi?
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Speaker 10: Good morning, guys. So Front Page News is sponsored by
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Speaker 10: Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. So we
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Speaker 10: start this hour with hundreds of cruise ship passengers stranded
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Speaker 10: in Cambodia after investing their life savings in what they
28:57
Speaker 10: thought would be their home for the next 15 years
28:59
Speaker 10: or longer. So the ship is called Villa by Odyssey.
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Speaker 10: And passengers, they weren't just booking vacations. They were buying
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Speaker 10: cabins to live on for full time with suites starting.
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Speaker 8: At $ 230, 000.
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Speaker 10: Some even sold their homes, their belongings. They're planning to
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Speaker 10: spend their retirement traveling the world.
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Speaker 2: Let's listen. We got thrown off the ship yesterday. They
29:21
Speaker 2: ran out of money.
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Speaker 5: They don't have any money for fuel.
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Speaker 2: So they told us we all have to get off.
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Speaker 15: The challenge is a lot of people now have no
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Speaker 15: place to go.
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Speaker 2: This was their home.
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Speaker 15: They put all of their money.
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Speaker 2: sold their home back in the U.S.
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Speaker 15: Or Australia or wherever they're from, and now they have
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Speaker 15: nowhere to go.
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Speaker 21: So there's people in a whole nother country just stuck
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Speaker 21: and stranded, no money, there's no more fuel on the ship,
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Speaker 21: and they trying to figure out how they going to
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Speaker 21: even get back home to America.
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Speaker 2: Well, the sad part is the concept seems dope, right?
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Speaker 3: You retire, you buy this condo on the ship, and
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Speaker 3: you just travel for the rest of your life.
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Speaker 2: You go back, you go from country to country, and
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Speaker 2: you live on the ship.
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Speaker 1: You get the free food.
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Speaker 5: I can't live like that.
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Speaker 4: But I know some people that's okay with that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they travel.
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Speaker 3: It's just a traveling lifestyle. Your golden years just traveling.
30:09
Speaker 3: And people sold, gave up their life savings to buy
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Speaker 3: these condos or these cabins.
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Speaker 2: And then it's like, nah, we ain't got no more money.
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Speaker 4: And then you in a whole nother country. You just
30:17
Speaker 4: stop here.
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Speaker 7: Yes.
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Speaker 10: What's the name of the cruise ship? It is Villa
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Speaker 10: by Odyssey.
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Speaker 1: Hey, man, drop on the clues for Villa by Odyssey.
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Speaker 1: Don't you don't take it back.
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Speaker 7: That's not right.
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Speaker 5: You're going to scam, scam big.
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Speaker 12: What?
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Speaker 10: No.
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Speaker 5: That's a big old scam right there.
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Speaker 6: All the money.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying you out here just stealing chapstick from
30:37
Speaker 1: Dollar General.
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Speaker 5: And I told you if you're going to scam, scam, beg.
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Speaker 5: But they ain't doing it.
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Speaker 10: Well, the company, they're blaming skyrocketing fuel costs tied to
30:44
Speaker 10: the war with Iran. They said that the cost for
30:47
Speaker 10: running the cabins went from $ 1, 800 per month to $ 8, 000
30:51
Speaker 10: per month. Four times what they were paying before.
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Speaker 1: Jesus.
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Speaker 10: And so they said, you know, they gave the people
30:56
Speaker 10: who were on the ship on Tuesday, they told them
30:58
Speaker 10: it was about 200 people. They were given eight hours
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Speaker 10: to pack their stuff up and leave.
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Speaker 5: And how much did it cost? A quarter million for
31:04
Speaker 5: 15 years?
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Speaker 1: $ 230, 000.
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Speaker 4: That's what they started at.
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Speaker 10: That's what the cabin started at. Some paid more.
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Speaker 2: Depending on the.
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Speaker 3: Size of your cabin, one bedroom, two bedroom and all that.
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Speaker 3: All that other stuff, which is sad. That is, oh
31:16
Speaker 3: my gosh.
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Speaker 5: But why would you think that that was ever going
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Speaker 5: to happen?
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Speaker 1: The concept sounds good, but it sounds too good. Like,
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Speaker 1: on a boat for 15 years, going island hopping for 230,000.
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Speaker 5: At some point, your brain has to say, this don't
31:28
Speaker 5: add up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Like, I don't know.
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Speaker 5: You have to know this sounds too good.
31:32
Speaker 4: But some people pay a lot more.
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Speaker 3: Some people might pay a million dollars, depending on the
31:35
Speaker 3: size of your cabin.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So it seems like it
31:38
Speaker 2: may seem like.
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Speaker 5: I'm looking at this boat. This boat don't look that big, bro.
31:41
Speaker 6: That's crazy.
31:41
Speaker 3: And what they should have did is, I don't know
31:43
Speaker 3: how they don't calculate the rise in fuel costs.
31:46
Speaker 7: Right.
31:46
Speaker 2: Maybe not the way it is, but it's only been
31:49
Speaker 2: how long?
31:49
Speaker 4: It's been two years.
31:50
Speaker 2: It's only been two years?
31:51
Speaker 1: And where they at?
31:52
Speaker 4: Where they get stuck at?
31:52
Speaker 5: Oh, they've been out there for.
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Speaker 2: Two years already?
31:53
Speaker 4: They've been sailing for two years.
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Speaker 1: It started in 2024.
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Speaker 10: They're in Cambodia now. They're playing with us to go
31:58
Speaker 10: to all seven continents, travel the world.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I take that back then. They're not scamming.
32:03
Speaker 4: They try.
32:03
Speaker 5: They try.
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Speaker 4: And yo, take it back too. I don't just be
32:06
Speaker 4: out here just stealing chapstick. That was one time, yo.
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Speaker 5: That's all it takes? If I was to suck a
32:13
Speaker 5: pee-pee one time, what would you call me?
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Speaker 2: Well, gay.
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Speaker 1: All right? You would never let me live that way.
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Speaker 2: Nah, nah.
32:19
Speaker 1: You're bringing up every.
32:19
Speaker 5: Chance you got.
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Speaker 2: Why do you always go there, though? I don't want
32:22
Speaker 2: y'all to know.
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Speaker 1: Why could I just want y'all to know?
32:24
Speaker 4: Because, though.
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Speaker 5: All right?
32:26
Speaker 2: Because.
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Speaker 5: That's a good example.
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Speaker 4: That makes sense.
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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Mimi.
32:29
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 19: You know what?
32:30
Speaker 10: So now I'm going to have to bring it back serious, okay?
32:33
Speaker 10: There is a new Netflix documentary that's coming out today.
32:36
Speaker 10: It's taking a closer look at the Cornell University case
32:39
Speaker 10: that sparked protests and national attention. It's called InstaDocs Jane
32:43
Speaker 10: Doe vs.
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Speaker 4: Cornell.
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Speaker 2: Already? Already.
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Speaker 4: It's out today. Netflix do not play no games.
32:50
Speaker 5: Netflix, y'all are not YouTube.
32:52
Speaker 6: They are.
32:53
Speaker 4: Get out quickly.
32:54
Speaker 2: Don't even make sense.
32:55
Speaker 4: What the hell do you mean? We have a preview
32:57
Speaker 4: of the documentary. Let's listen.
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Speaker 2: My first reaction was, how disgusting.
33:03
Speaker 1: This institution was going to fulfill her dream, and instead
33:07
Speaker 1: it became her nightmare.
33:09
Speaker 4: I told Jane Doe, I want to write a story.
33:12
Speaker 4: You never know what is going to ignite something.
33:17
Speaker 1: Our administration can't only be responding now because they're under
33:21
Speaker 1: the pressure of national news.
33:24
Speaker 10: So, yeah, that first voice you heard was New York
33:26
Speaker 10: Governor Kathy Hochul. She recently directed Attorney General Letitia James
33:30
Speaker 10: to investigate because a local district attorney declined to bring charges.
33:33
Speaker 10: So far, no one has been charged. And that documentary, again,
33:36
Speaker 10: is out today.
33:37
Speaker 1: I am glad this information is coming out. I'm glad
33:39
Speaker 1: this story is being told. But can we take some
33:41
Speaker 1: time and tell the right story as opposed to just
33:43
Speaker 1: putting something together to throw it out there to be
33:45
Speaker 1: part of the algorithm? Like, come on, man, especially for
33:49
Speaker 1: something as serious as this.
33:50
Speaker 7: Yeah.
33:50
Speaker 1: You know, like what I want, what are people going
33:52
Speaker 1: to learn from it as opposed to just putting it
33:54
Speaker 1: out there because it's the.
33:56
Speaker 5: You know, the current topic of the moment.
33:58
Speaker 1: There's a big, larger discussion to be had about, you know,
34:01
Speaker 1: rape and rape culture.
34:02
Speaker 5: Sexual assault on campus.
34:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, sexual assault on campus.
34:04
Speaker 2: All of that.
34:05
Speaker 1: I guess a huge conversation to be had. Are you
34:07
Speaker 1: really having it in a documentary that you put together
34:09
Speaker 1: in five days?
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Speaker 5: It seems like. That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 10: We shall see that again out today. But you guys,
34:17
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34:24
Speaker 5: All right.
34:25
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Mimi. Now, when we come back.
34:27
Speaker 1: Man, a woman who I love dearly. Her name is
34:29
Speaker 1: Tessa Spencer. She's one of my OGs. She is a
34:32
Speaker 1: radio personality in Charleston, South Carolina, and a TV personality
34:36
Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina. She has an amazing organization called
34:40
Speaker 1: Save Our Sons and Daughters. And it was founded after
34:45
Speaker 1: losing her son, Julian, to suicide. And there's not too
34:48
Speaker 1: many people on this planet who have navigated grief the
34:53
Speaker 1: way that Tessa Spencer has. So if you're a person
34:54
Speaker 1: out there that's, you know, trying to navigate grief, I
34:57
Speaker 1: think her story can be very empowering for you this morning.
34:59
Speaker 2: That's right. We're going to talk to her next. So
35:01
Speaker 2: don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
35:03
Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God.
35:06
Speaker 3: We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRose is here as well.
35:09
Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building.
35:10
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed.
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Speaker 2: We have Tessa Spencer.
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Speaker 7: Welcome.
35:13
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
35:14
Speaker 5: Good morning, Tessa.
35:15
Speaker 1: If you're listening on Z93 Jams in Charleston right now,
35:17
Speaker 1: you like... What's up, y'all? Tessa Spitzer!
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Speaker 6: Okay.
35:21
Speaker 5: Tessa, man.
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Speaker 1: Tessa is... She's always been an inspiration to me. she
35:27
Speaker 1: did the morning show in Charleston, South Carolina when I
35:29
Speaker 1: first started in radio.
35:30
Speaker 2: Okay.
35:30
Speaker 5: And it was called The Breakfast Club with Baby J.
35:32
Speaker 7: Oh, really?
35:33
Speaker 5: You know, yes, yes, yes. And Tessa, I talk about
35:35
Speaker 5: it in my first book.
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Speaker 1: Tessa was the first person who she called into the
35:39
Speaker 1: hotline one day to tell me about a traffic accident,
35:41
Speaker 1: but she was like, Charlamagne, you sound good on the radio.
35:44
Speaker 5: And I was like, thank you. And she was like, no,
35:45
Speaker 5: you sound really good, like a natural.
35:48
Speaker 1: And that put a battery in my back that has
35:50
Speaker 1: carried me a very long way.
35:52
Speaker 7: So, thank you, Tessa.
35:52
Speaker 6: And you surprised me with that when you, You know,
35:55
Speaker 6: you did the book tour and you sent me a
35:58
Speaker 6: copy of the book because I was going to host
35:59
Speaker 6: it in Charleston. And I was reading when I got
36:01
Speaker 6: to that page. I started crying. I cried because that
36:05
Speaker 6: you never know what you say to somebody and that,
36:09
Speaker 6: you know, sticks with them. And the fact that you
36:11
Speaker 6: remembered that.
36:12
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
36:12
Speaker 6: Just like, like, no, he didn't. And, you know, I
36:15
Speaker 6: appreciate you remembering that. And look at you now.
36:19
Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons I do it to
36:21
Speaker 1: other people, because I remember how much that. inspired me
36:25
Speaker 1: and that was 1999 1999 that was before.
36:31
Speaker 6: Julian was born because Julian was born in 2000 so
36:33
Speaker 6: that's a long time because I had just gotten back
36:36
Speaker 6: to Charleston from Nashville there was no radio in Nashville then.
36:40
Speaker 1: And I also heard you say once that hearing people's
36:43
Speaker 1: testimonies and understanding how God has worked in their lives
36:47
Speaker 1: is part of your purpose so that's another reason I
36:48
Speaker 1: wanted you here this morning because I want people to
36:50
Speaker 1: hear your testimony this.
36:51
Speaker 6: Morning I've had so many. And to save all of
36:54
Speaker 6: the back backstory because of how strong my faith is
36:58
Speaker 6: now is what has carried me over the past year
37:02
Speaker 6: since losing Julian.
37:03
Speaker 3: I'll break down the story a little bit because you
37:05
Speaker 3: mentioned Julian a couple of times. And I don't know
37:07
Speaker 3: if people know who Julian is and what the story is.
37:09
Speaker 2: Julian is your son.
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Speaker 6: Julian is my son. And I still talk about him
37:13
Speaker 6: in the present because and I don't want to. Okay,
37:15
Speaker 6: if I cry, just bear with me.
37:17
Speaker 1: We'll get to you right now, Brandon.
37:20
Speaker 6: We'll cry with you. Julian is my baby boy. And
37:27
Speaker 6: he was always a very special child. And he was
37:30
Speaker 6: here for whatever purpose it was. And when he was
37:33
Speaker 6: six years old, before he would say anything profound, he
37:37
Speaker 6: would always start with, Mama. And I would always answer, Mama. yes, Julian,
37:40
Speaker 6: because I knew something was coming after that. And he said, mama,
37:44
Speaker 6: I said, yes, Julian, because I was in his closet,
37:45
Speaker 6: you know, cleaning up. He said, I want to go
37:47
Speaker 6: back to where God is. He said this at six,
37:50
Speaker 6: about six years old. I got quiet for a minute.
37:53
Speaker 6: And I was like, I said, I don't think I'm
37:55
Speaker 6: ready for you to do that just yet. He said, no, no, no, mama,
37:58
Speaker 6: not to stay just to visit. So I'm like, where,
38:00
Speaker 6: where's this coming from? Where's this knowledge coming from? So
38:03
Speaker 6: I knew I was dealing with somebody special. He came
38:05
Speaker 6: from pure love. And his brother, James, James Edward is
38:09
Speaker 6: 28 now. And so there was a two year, you know,
38:12
Speaker 6: age difference. You know, James was, you know, being a
38:15
Speaker 6: little mean to him. And he was, I think, eight
38:17
Speaker 6: or 10 at this time. He's like, but you're my brother.
38:19
Speaker 6: You're supposed to love me. This was almost like innate.
38:23
Speaker 6: There's like this pure love for the world. He felt everything,
38:26
Speaker 6: even at a young age, you know, of the heaviness
38:29
Speaker 6: and the hatred. He didn't understand it. By eighth grade,
38:32
Speaker 6: he was bullied. Being the sensitive soul that he was,
38:36
Speaker 6: I think that's where everything kicked off, you know, for him.
38:39
Speaker 6: So by 10th grade, depression, anxiety. By 19 years old,
38:44
Speaker 6: bipolar schizophrenia. To watch a child that was so full
38:49
Speaker 6: of life and wonder and wisdom, be kind of gutted
38:53
Speaker 6: from that, to be the complete opposite of a darker side.
38:59
Speaker 6: The anxiety was through the roof. His imagination was just
39:04
Speaker 6: through the roof. But he fought, right? He didn't want
39:08
Speaker 6: to take his medication because he thought it messed with
39:10
Speaker 6: his creativity, that it was going to stifle it, that
39:13
Speaker 6: it was going to change him. This was what age?
39:16
Speaker 6: This was 19. Because by the time you turn 18,
39:18
Speaker 6: of course, in South Carolina, you're considered an adult. Parents,
39:23
Speaker 6: even if they're on your health insurance, which he was
39:24
Speaker 6: up until, you know, he passed away. I don't have
39:27
Speaker 6: a say in his mental health care. so now you
39:30
Speaker 6: have a 18 year old 19 year old who's diagnosed
39:33
Speaker 6: with bipolar schizophrenia and they're trying to navigate this on
39:36
Speaker 6: their own already with the you know the brain development
39:40
Speaker 6: you're not mature enough to handle that so that's what
39:43
Speaker 6: I've been working on to with legislation with Senate bill
39:45
Speaker 6: 862 with Dion Teter and To change where in emergency
39:49
Speaker 6: crisis situations, yeah, there's the mobile crisis unit that folks
39:53
Speaker 6: can call. But what happened with our family was there
39:56
Speaker 6: was a local hospital there. His friend called me and said,
40:00
Speaker 6: Julian says that when I drop him off, he's going
40:02
Speaker 6: to do something bad. And so I was able to
40:06
Speaker 6: find my way to him, talk him through. To getting
40:09
Speaker 6: into the car. We drove to a nearby medical center
40:11
Speaker 6: and he's stolen the car. I get out of the
40:13
Speaker 6: car frantic because I'm like, okay, my son is saying
40:16
Speaker 6: he's going to harm himself. We need to get him
40:18
Speaker 6: some help. And she's like, how old is he? Said
40:20
Speaker 6: he's 19. Ma'am, I'm so sorry. We can't make him
40:22
Speaker 6: get out the car.
40:23
Speaker 2: Why?
40:24
Speaker 6: Because he's considered an adult and he didn't want to. Right.
40:27
Speaker 5: He's clearly in crisis.
40:28
Speaker 2: Right.
40:28
Speaker 6: So they said, what you can do is you can
40:31
Speaker 6: go to the county and get an emergency order. So
40:34
Speaker 6: I did go inside the hospital because I was like, okay,
40:37
Speaker 6: that's one person's opinion. I'm going in. And I ran
40:40
Speaker 6: into a doctor or a nurse in the hallway. I
40:41
Speaker 6: can't even remember, but I remember the encounter. She's like,
40:44
Speaker 6: can I help you? And I said, and I told
40:45
Speaker 6: her what was going on. And she said, no, I'm sorry,
40:47
Speaker 6: we can't. She said, but can I pray with you?
40:50
Speaker 6: So she prayed with me right there in the hallway
40:52
Speaker 6: in the hospital. We get in the car. I'm driving.
40:54
Speaker 6: He's in the passenger side. He wants to try to
40:57
Speaker 6: jump out while I'm driving. So I'm having to restrain
41:01
Speaker 6: a 19 year old who was forcibly pulling against me
41:04
Speaker 6: to get out and drive to safety until first responders
41:08
Speaker 6: could come and get him, you know, into the hospital.
41:11
Speaker 6: And so that's what Senate bill eight 62 in that
41:13
Speaker 6: particular instance, if an adult now they're opening it, I
41:16
Speaker 6: wanted it for 18 to 26 for that critical brain
41:19
Speaker 6: development stage to at least give them a fighting chance
41:22
Speaker 6: so that they can at least be a little bit
41:24
Speaker 6: more mature to understand, Hey, I need to follow my
41:27
Speaker 6: treatment plan. I need to take my medication. I need
41:29
Speaker 6: to go to therapy, right? But it made it through
41:33
Speaker 6: the Senate. It made it through the House. But it
41:35
Speaker 6: wasn't able to get to the House for a vote
41:38
Speaker 6: before the session ended this past spring. So we're going
41:42
Speaker 6: to take it back in January of 27.
41:44
Speaker 1: When you lose somebody you love to suicide, do you
41:47
Speaker 1: find yourself constantly going back through conversations looking for something.
41:51
Speaker 5: You might have missed? Because I feel like you didn't
41:53
Speaker 5: miss anything.
41:54
Speaker 12: No, I didn't.
41:55
Speaker 6: And here's the thing. For some families, yes. Our family
41:58
Speaker 6: was very involved, you know, from the get go.
42:01
Speaker 4: We asked questions.
42:02
Speaker 6: We read up on his illness because we wanted to
42:05
Speaker 6: know what we were up against, especially if he was
42:09
Speaker 6: not going to be treatment compliant. And we would have
42:12
Speaker 6: open conversations. And even after he would go away for treatment.
42:15
Speaker 6: I think the longest that they kept him was 30 days,
42:18
Speaker 6: but the standard usually was either 72 hours or two weeks.
42:22
Speaker 6: And they send him home with a bunch of medications that,
42:25
Speaker 6: you know, he would take for a couple of weeks
42:27
Speaker 6: and be the little boy that you know, I knew
42:30
Speaker 6: was on that inside still.
42:31
Speaker 4: Right.
42:32
Speaker 6: And then he would stop because he didn't think he
42:34
Speaker 6: needed it anymore. We would have those conversations and he
42:36
Speaker 6: would be very open and he would say, mom, just
42:38
Speaker 6: because I don't talk about it doesn't mean that I'm
42:41
Speaker 6: still not thinking about it. And just with it a
42:44
Speaker 6: few months prior, he was struggling because he wanted to
42:47
Speaker 6: be on his own. And I think that mental health
42:51
Speaker 6: challenge on top of his mental illness really made it worse.
42:55
Speaker 17: Yeah.
42:56
Speaker 6: And I don't talk about that part too much because
42:58
Speaker 6: I don't want to put that on anyone else. Of course,
43:02
Speaker 6: because that's not their burden to carry. And he was
43:05
Speaker 6: standing in the living room and we were saying, well, Julian,
43:08
Speaker 6: you know, these are the certain steps that you have
43:10
Speaker 6: to take. And he kept telling us, you know, I'm
43:12
Speaker 6: running out of time. But we didn't understand what that meant.
43:15
Speaker 6: He would also say, because I don't want to do it.
43:19
Speaker 6: I don't want to do it. And I said, please
43:21
Speaker 6: don't do that to me, please. And I always said
43:24
Speaker 6: that he made the promise that he could keep, but
43:27
Speaker 6: the mental illness didn't allow him to keep that promise.
43:30
Speaker 4: Did you ever feel that he was hearing voices?
43:33
Speaker 6: He talked about that.
43:34
Speaker 5: Okay.
43:35
Speaker 21: Because he was conscious enough to know and aware enough
43:38
Speaker 21: to know that he didn't want to do it.
43:40
Speaker 4: Yes.
43:40
Speaker 21: And then saying things like, I'm running out of time.
43:42
Speaker 15: Yes.
43:43
Speaker 12: Yeah.
43:43
Speaker 6: And here's the thing, but I will tell you this.
43:45
Speaker 6: It was two weeks after he passed. I had a dream.
43:49
Speaker 6: And in the dream, because we always like to dance together.
43:52
Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw one, if you looked
43:54
Speaker 6: at the documentary, he was trying to teach me one
43:56
Speaker 6: of the little dances. And in the dream, we were
43:58
Speaker 6: dancing and we stopped. And then he leaned in and
44:02
Speaker 6: he said to me, it wasn't supposed to happen. And
44:05
Speaker 6: I believed that, right? And so I live with that. Still,
44:10
Speaker 6: because I'm like, when it happened, did you think, oh,
44:15
Speaker 6: my God, what did I do? You know, and I
44:17
Speaker 6: have to go across the and God kind of fast
44:20
Speaker 6: tracked me into driving across the bridge in Charleston. Beautiful bridge.
44:24
Speaker 6: Everybody knows about it. The Ravenel Bridge. It's not, I
44:26
Speaker 6: don't do too well with it at night. The daytime,
44:29
Speaker 6: I can go over. I'm just, your mind, and I've
44:32
Speaker 6: heard that when someone takes their life, when they die
44:35
Speaker 6: by suicide, that, especially a mother, is thinking like, okay,
44:39
Speaker 6: you're envisioning how it happened or what it may have.
44:43
Speaker 6: And I get crushed every single time I think about it,
44:47
Speaker 6: which I still do. I'm handling it. A whole, my
44:49
Speaker 6: husband will tell you, you know, you've come a long way.
44:53
Speaker 6: And because I suffered from depression myself.
44:55
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
44:56
Speaker 6: My late teens, even my early 30s, okay? And my
45:01
Speaker 6: last attempt where I felt like nobody loves me. I
45:05
Speaker 6: don't want to do this. Julian was three months old.
45:09
Speaker 6: He was in one arm. James Edward was just a
45:11
Speaker 6: little over two. He was in my other arm. I
45:12
Speaker 6: was in the bed. I had taken, you know, sleeping pills.
45:15
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe 15, 17 of them. I didn't
45:18
Speaker 6: go to work at Terry Bay's. And my mom showed
45:20
Speaker 6: up at my front door with a police officer because
45:23
Speaker 6: I didn't, you know, come to work. But in that moment,
45:25
Speaker 6: I realized I've got to live for my sons. That's
45:28
Speaker 6: why I think it's so important to have the conversations
45:30
Speaker 6: about mental health in your families. We all know, you know,
45:35
Speaker 6: you try to know your health history, right? If diabetes
45:38
Speaker 6: runs in your family, if heart conditions, whatever the case
45:42
Speaker 6: may be. We need to know our mental health background
45:46
Speaker 6: for our family. But sometimes that's rough, right? Because you
45:49
Speaker 6: don't talk about it.
45:50
Speaker 5: Did you ever put any blame on yourself? Like, oh,
45:53
Speaker 5: he got this from me.
45:54
Speaker 6: In a way, sometimes I try not to go there
45:57
Speaker 6: because what I found out, because I found out that
46:00
Speaker 6: my mother, depression and anxiety, but nobody talked about that.
46:04
Speaker 5: I wasn't my family or my dad.
46:06
Speaker 4: Right.
46:07
Speaker 6: Had I known that, then maybe I would have been
46:09
Speaker 6: I would have recognized it in myself.
46:12
Speaker 8: Right.
46:13
Speaker 6: And recognized it earlier in my son or understand that
46:17
Speaker 6: this is a possibility or could be and then start
46:20
Speaker 6: taking care of. The mental health early on of your
46:24
Speaker 6: children's mental health.
46:25
Speaker 4: But did you know?
46:26
Speaker 10: No.
46:26
Speaker 21: Did you even know that you were suffering from depression?
46:28
Speaker 21: I'm sure your mom probably didn't even know what it
46:30
Speaker 21: was or how to navigate it.
46:32
Speaker 6: Well, I did. Well, here's the thing. I did because
46:34
Speaker 6: I was on a 72. Oh, let me tell you,
46:36
Speaker 6: because that wasn't the first time I did that. Let's
46:38
Speaker 6: go back to when I was in college. That was
46:41
Speaker 6: my first attempt. I would say overall, maybe I've tried three,
46:45
Speaker 6: three or four times.
46:46
Speaker 15: Right.
46:46
Speaker 5: Right.
46:47
Speaker 6: And so I've been on a 72-hour hold. I was
46:49
Speaker 6: on a 72-hour hold when I was in Nashville. I
46:51
Speaker 6: was doing radio in Nashville. But I knew, I grew
46:55
Speaker 6: to know what my triggers were, right? If you can
46:58
Speaker 6: master what your triggers, if you know first what your
47:00
Speaker 6: triggers are and master to work against that, which is
47:04
Speaker 6: what I did.
47:05
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing your story. Yeah.
47:07
Speaker 5: Oh, it's a lot more. No, no, no, no.
47:09
Speaker 2: But even this, the fact that you've been through it
47:11
Speaker 2: many times, very difficult. I've been there before. The reason
47:15
Speaker 2: I say it's difficult is because you don't want to
47:17
Speaker 2: be judged, right?
47:18
Speaker 1: Right.
47:18
Speaker 2: Because people don't know. Because the first thing that people
47:21
Speaker 2: always say is, get over it.
47:23
Speaker 3: Or, you know, how could you do that? The Bible
47:25
Speaker 3: says if you do that, you're going to hell. But
47:27
Speaker 3: for most time, people don't realize what your mind is
47:30
Speaker 3: going through during that time.
47:31
Speaker 2: That you don't feel loved. People don't want you. You
47:33
Speaker 2: don't want to be around. So my question to you is,
47:36
Speaker 2: when your son was dealing with depression, anxiety, what was this?
47:40
Speaker 2: What was, I don't want to say the switch, but
47:41
Speaker 2: what turned, right? Because you said.
47:43
Speaker 3: It was normal. You felt he was special, but everything
47:45
Speaker 3: was fine. Was it you feel was it the bullying?
47:48
Speaker 3: Was it him not feeling away? What do you feel
47:51
Speaker 3: got him to that moment? Because as a father of six,
47:54
Speaker 3: I'm always interested in watching my kids to see what changes,
47:58
Speaker 3: how they feel, what they're like.
47:59
Speaker 2: Is it bullying? Is it something, you know, what was
48:01
Speaker 2: that change?
48:02
Speaker 6: I think for him, it was the bullying. He I mean,
48:04
Speaker 6: and I would always tell him, I said, they're just
48:07
Speaker 6: doing that because they're jealous of you. Because, you know,
48:09
Speaker 6: he had the hazel eyes, you know, square jaws that
48:12
Speaker 6: people now are trying to make themselves have. You know,
48:16
Speaker 6: he was a good looking young little boy. I mean,
48:18
Speaker 6: his ears were a little big.
48:19
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I find a little humor.
48:23
Speaker 6: I still have to laugh because he was like, they
48:25
Speaker 6: said my ears are too big. I said, your granddaddy's
48:27
Speaker 6: ears are big. Your granddaddy was my dad.
48:30
Speaker 4: He was a good looking man. So you're growing.
48:32
Speaker 6: So what? You know, you're so much more than this.
48:34
Speaker 6: I said, can they write poetry? No, ma'am. Okay, you
48:37
Speaker 6: can do that.
48:37
Speaker 4: You're this, this.
48:38
Speaker 6: I always try to for the positive, but those voices,
48:42
Speaker 6: but it still wasn't enough, you know, because what mattered
48:45
Speaker 6: to them most was being accepted.
48:48
Speaker 2: When that is the situation, right?
48:50
Speaker 3: Sometimes you feel like you don't listen to the calling,
48:53
Speaker 3: meaning right if my son says he's not accepted right
48:56
Speaker 3: what's the first thing you do as a father you
48:58
Speaker 3: say the same exact thing that you said yeah no
49:00
Speaker 3: it's not it's you you're handsome you're this you're that
49:03
Speaker 3: you got that from this sometimes we never think you
49:06
Speaker 3: know what i'm gonna pull my son from that school
49:07
Speaker 3: because it feels like i'm not gonna let them win
49:09
Speaker 3: excuse my friend i'm not gonna let them win you
49:11
Speaker 3: know what i mean but do you feel like as
49:13
Speaker 3: parents not just in your situation that sometimes that is
49:15
Speaker 3: the answer like you know what take him out of
49:17
Speaker 3: that environment.
49:18
Speaker 2: Maybe another environment will be better for him.
49:20
Speaker 7: Yeah.
49:21
Speaker 3: But then I always I also feel like. I don't
49:23
Speaker 3: want to be the father that my son is always
49:26
Speaker 3: running or my daughter is always running.
49:27
Speaker 6: From school to school because everybody, well.
49:30
Speaker 2: They don't like him here. They don't like him there.
49:31
Speaker 1: They don't like him here.
49:32
Speaker 2: They don't like him there. And it's always running instead
49:34
Speaker 2: of saying, you know, you got to deal with it
49:35
Speaker 2: because this world is not kind.
49:36
Speaker 4: This world is not nice.
49:38
Speaker 2: So what is your thoughts when it comes to that?
49:40
Speaker 6: And it's almost just like how you said, because you
49:42
Speaker 6: don't now, if you're putting, pulling them out of these situations,
49:46
Speaker 6: you're shielding them from life reality. And that's the saddest
49:50
Speaker 6: part of this whole thing. I think it's just, The
49:53
Speaker 6: world is cruel, even more cruel, I think, than when
49:57
Speaker 6: we were coming up as kids, right? They have a
50:00
Speaker 6: lot more to deal with now than we ever did.
50:05
Speaker 6: And if we keep moving them or pulling them out
50:08
Speaker 6: of a situation and putting them into another situation and
50:11
Speaker 6: more people don't like them, okay, that's piling up on
50:13
Speaker 6: them because now nobody likes me anywhere I go. And
50:17
Speaker 6: then it further isolates them, I think.
50:18
Speaker 12: Right.
50:19
Speaker 6: Right. Because they're already mental illness for some versus a
50:22
Speaker 6: mental health challenge. Because that's another thing I've also I've
50:25
Speaker 6: learned to separate mental health challenges. We can all have
50:28
Speaker 6: a mental health challenge at any point.
50:30
Speaker 4: We lose our jobs.
50:31
Speaker 6: We did this, you know, things snowball. Oh, my God,
50:33
Speaker 6: what am I going to do? I don't feel, you know,
50:34
Speaker 6: and now you're just like, oh, yeah, you know, the illness.
50:38
Speaker 1: Right.
50:38
Speaker 6: But it's an illness. And so when you put. the
50:41
Speaker 6: life's pressures at a certain age on top of a
50:43
Speaker 6: mental illness, it's almost like they don't have a fighting
50:46
Speaker 6: chance if they're not being treated.
50:48
Speaker 2: How does brother take it?
50:49
Speaker 6: The diagnosis, the whole diagnosis or after all. And I
50:53
Speaker 6: don't want to speak for him. I can't speak for him.
50:57
Speaker 6: I'm not sure. How's your relationship?
50:59
Speaker 4: How's your relationship with your other son?
51:02
Speaker 6: I think he's not as good as I would like.
51:08
Speaker 6: The morning when everything happened, Julian called his brother and
51:14
Speaker 6: he called his stepdad. We didn't hear the phone ring.
51:17
Speaker 6: I don't want to put that on some, I'm not,
51:20
Speaker 6: I can't do that. That's not because, because my husband has,
51:24
Speaker 6: he's living with the fact that I've been able to
51:26
Speaker 6: talk him down before I could have talked him down.
51:29
Speaker 6: Had we heard the phone, you know, had we heard
51:31
Speaker 6: the phone and he left my husband a two minute
51:34
Speaker 6: message that in the weeks following, you know, he listened
51:37
Speaker 6: to it every day. And he said to me, one
51:40
Speaker 6: day I want you to listen to it so you
51:41
Speaker 6: can understand. And I said, I don't, I'm not ready.
51:45
Speaker 6: I'm not ready to do that. I don't know what
51:48
Speaker 6: was said between him and his brother because, because of,
51:51
Speaker 6: I would say because of Julian's illness, it wasn't the best.
51:56
Speaker 6: I only know part of the story, but there's no,
51:59
Speaker 6: you know, ill feelings, whatever, you know, it's just me
52:02
Speaker 6: and my son are just navigating his life now and
52:07
Speaker 6: in the aftermath of everything.
52:09
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't call you because he knew your mom
52:11
Speaker 2: would talk him down.
52:12
Speaker 7: Yeah.
52:12
Speaker 2: That was the reason why he didn't call you.
52:13
Speaker 6: And that's why I was saying, and I knew that.
52:16
Speaker 1: Another thing, I don't want to get lost in this conversation.
52:20
Speaker 1: You know, Julian committed suicide, but prior to that, you
52:23
Speaker 1: lost your mother.
52:24
Speaker 7: Oh, Jesus.
52:25
Speaker 5: Your father.
52:25
Speaker 6: Yeah.
52:26
Speaker 5: And then your son.
52:27
Speaker 9: Yeah.
52:27
Speaker 5: Back to back.
52:29
Speaker 1: Is there a difference between grieving somebody who died and
52:32
Speaker 1: grieving somebody who died by suicide?
52:35
Speaker 7: Wow.
52:35
Speaker 6: That's a good question. And if I have to look at...
52:38
Speaker 6: My situation, because I lost my mom two days after
52:42
Speaker 6: Mother's Day 2025, her husband of almost 55 years in
52:48
Speaker 6: the beginning of July, and Julian two weeks after we
52:51
Speaker 6: buried my stepdad. And he performed at my dad's service,
52:55
Speaker 6: my stepdad's service. Wow. I think for some families, it
53:00
Speaker 6: can be different because some families are left with questions
53:03
Speaker 6: as to why, especially if they didn't know their loved
53:05
Speaker 6: one was struggling. So there's no closure versus if you
53:09
Speaker 6: lose a parent, you know, mama was 70 on the
53:12
Speaker 6: verge of 79. She would have been 79 and 25.
53:16
Speaker 6: My stepdad had, was in heart failure. So we kind of,
53:19
Speaker 6: you know, that's, you know, you kind of expect that.
53:22
Speaker 6: So you're grieving your parents because they were always together.
53:25
Speaker 6: And we always used to joke that they would go together. And,
53:28
Speaker 6: you know, that almost came true. So we're used to
53:30
Speaker 6: now the two heads of the family are gone within
53:32
Speaker 6: a month of each other.
53:33
Speaker 4: For Julian, in.
53:34
Speaker 6: This particular case, because I had read up on his illness,
53:38
Speaker 6: that if left untreated, this is what could happen. Only
53:42
Speaker 6: thing is we didn't know when. I thought it would
53:44
Speaker 6: have been, if it ever happened, it would have been
53:46
Speaker 6: later in life, right? And I certainly didn't expect it
53:52
Speaker 6: when it happened because we had just come back from
53:54
Speaker 6: the city. We had just gotten back from the city
53:56
Speaker 6: Saturday evening. He woke up the next morning to go,
54:01
Speaker 6: went to work as normal. My husband saw him, you know,
54:05
Speaker 6: he was in good spirits. He asked, you know, how
54:07
Speaker 6: was the trip and everything? He said, okay, I'll see
54:09
Speaker 6: you later. and he left to go to work, and
54:12
Speaker 6: he never came back home. That night at 8.30, he
54:14
Speaker 6: texted me, how was New York? I bet it was hot.
54:17
Speaker 6: And I said, I made chicken alfredo because that was
54:20
Speaker 6: his favorite. And he said, save me enough for two people.
54:23
Speaker 6: So that meant I put it in a little container.
54:25
Speaker 6: So when he came home, something happened between 8.30 that
54:28
Speaker 6: night and 2 in the morning. It all depends. If
54:32
Speaker 6: you don't have any closure, you don't know that your
54:33
Speaker 6: loved one is struggling and it happens, I think that's
54:36
Speaker 6: the hardest part because now you don't have closure. Now
54:38
Speaker 6: you're racking your mind All the time trying to remember
54:42
Speaker 6: signs and look for what did I miss? What did
54:44
Speaker 6: I miss? With Julian, we already knew, sort of, but
54:47
Speaker 6: we just didn't know when. If he chose not to,
54:52
Speaker 6: you know, do his treatment.
54:53
Speaker 1: People always tell grieving families that there's nothing they could
54:56
Speaker 1: have done.
54:57
Speaker 5: How do you actually convince yourself of that?
55:00
Speaker 6: It's through faith. And my husband constantly reminds me that.
55:03
Speaker 6: He's like, babe, you did everything. Short of dragging him
55:09
Speaker 6: or throwing the medicine down his throat, you did everything
55:13
Speaker 6: you could.
55:15
Speaker 4: Everything.
55:15
Speaker 6: I was carrying his pain. He carried a lot of...
55:20
Speaker 6: Just to see your child, who is so gifted and talented,
55:23
Speaker 6: be so tormented at the same time, but still trying
55:27
Speaker 6: to wake up every day and go to work and
55:32
Speaker 6: be creative and be in these spaces.
55:34
Speaker 4: What I've come.
55:35
Speaker 6: Two is after I've been meeting the people in his
55:38
Speaker 6: creative community, and it's been kind of heartwarming and kind
55:42
Speaker 6: of therapeutic for me to know who he was to them, right?
55:47
Speaker 6: Saying he was so loving. Oh, my God, he lit
55:49
Speaker 6: up a room. Oh, my God, he was so talented.
55:52
Speaker 6: He was so amazing at this. And for the catering
55:54
Speaker 6: team that he worked with, they want to meet me
55:57
Speaker 6: because they want to meet Julian's mother because of who
56:01
Speaker 6: he was. And what he brought to them, one person
56:04
Speaker 6: said that they had to give up some of the
56:06
Speaker 6: catering jobs because they were used to him being there
56:09
Speaker 6: or being that light and sharing that space with him.
56:12
Speaker 6: That tears me up, but makes me smile at the
56:15
Speaker 6: same time. That I wasn't the only person to believe
56:19
Speaker 6: that he was as special as he was.
56:21
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
56:22
Speaker 5: I want to talk to you about pain and purpose, right?
56:24
Speaker 1: People love to say they're turning their pain into purpose.
56:28
Speaker 1: But does having a purpose actually make the pain special?
56:31
Speaker 5: Any easier to live with?
56:32
Speaker 6: What I found in this, it's a good segue into
56:36
Speaker 6: me starting the Save Our Sons and Daughters SC, which
56:39
Speaker 6: was another thing. It doesn't take away the pain because
56:42
Speaker 6: I still have moments even when we're out there advocating
56:45
Speaker 6: to support families because we have to support the families
56:48
Speaker 6: of loved ones who have mental health challenges and who
56:52
Speaker 6: have mental illness because we go through it too. If
56:55
Speaker 6: you're in an involved family, you're going to feel it. You're, you're,
56:59
Speaker 6: you're going through it. I've met parents who have adult
57:01
Speaker 6: children in their thirties, still living at home who are
57:04
Speaker 6: mentally ill and they're having a hard time. My inbox
57:07
Speaker 6: is full all the time of what can I do?
57:09
Speaker 6: What are some resources? How can I, he won't take
57:11
Speaker 6: his medicine. He's not, you know, how old is he?
57:13
Speaker 6: He's 33 right now. And this, this is, you know,
57:16
Speaker 6: that and a third. So I'm helping as many people
57:19
Speaker 6: as I can, not as fast as I can with educating,
57:23
Speaker 6: but I'm doing it for Julian and as part of
57:27
Speaker 6: Julian's legacy so that he is still living on. And
57:31
Speaker 6: there was another thing when I was pregnant with him,
57:33
Speaker 6: everything comes back connected. When I was pregnant with him,
57:35
Speaker 6: for some reason, I remember rubbing my belly saying, it's
57:37
Speaker 6: always going to be me and you. It's always going
57:39
Speaker 6: to be in me, me and you. Mind you, I
57:41
Speaker 6: have an older son, you know, you know, married. But
57:44
Speaker 6: now I know what that means now. It's always going
57:47
Speaker 6: to be me and him now because of what's been
57:50
Speaker 6: birthed out of my pain. It's a purpose to help
57:52
Speaker 6: other families, and it's because of him. The bill in
57:55
Speaker 6: the Senate in Columbia, Julian's bill, it's bittersweet. And whenever
58:00
Speaker 6: I get to talking about him, just like today, still crying,
58:04
Speaker 6: you know, I still cry about it. It's a pill
58:06
Speaker 6: that I can swallow a lot easier than I could
58:09
Speaker 6: have a little over a year ago. But Save Our
58:12
Speaker 6: Sons and Daughters, S.C., So sad, Essie. And I want
58:16
Speaker 6: to be able to grow it into other states because
58:18
Speaker 6: it's not just South Carolina. But I feel like this
58:22
Speaker 6: is what God has wanted me to do. But it
58:24
Speaker 6: had to come through a lot of pain. And every
58:28
Speaker 6: time I get that feeling, I kind of liken it
58:31
Speaker 6: to having a contract labor pains because it's like the
58:34
Speaker 6: pain is coming. It's coming. It's coming. I got to
58:36
Speaker 6: feel it. I got to feel it. I got to
58:38
Speaker 6: push through it till it stops. It's all for him.
58:42
Speaker 6: This has been the season of why not? Because now
58:45
Speaker 6: I feel like I have hope. And it's the strangest
58:47
Speaker 6: space to be in because now I'm dreaming now. And
58:51
Speaker 6: I'm hoping now more for myself because of Julian. Because
58:56
Speaker 6: now he's a part of anything that I'm doing, right?
59:00
Speaker 6: And so he always wanted to be a Moja. I
59:01
Speaker 6: submitted it and not thinking it was going to get chosen.
59:04
Speaker 4: I didn't really think.
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Speaker 4: All right, y'all. Good morning again. So let's get into
1:00:45
Speaker 4: this conversation. So J. Cole, he sat down with Frazier
1:00:48
Speaker 4: Thorpe and Mike Pitts.
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Speaker 5: My guy, Frazier. Sleuth to Frazier.
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Speaker 2: Frazier does good work.
1:00:53
Speaker 14: No, yeah, this was a great conversation. So the dynamic
1:00:55
Speaker 14: of the conversation is I'm sorry, Mark Pitts. The dynamic
1:00:59
Speaker 14: of the conversation is that it's an interview, but it's
1:01:02
Speaker 14: like weird. It's like Frazier's interviewing the both of them.
1:01:05
Speaker 14: But at the same time, they're interviewing him and each other, too.
1:01:08
Speaker 14: And for those of you guys who don't know who
1:01:10
Speaker 14: Pitts is, he is responsible. Well, first of all, he
1:01:13
Speaker 14: introduced J.
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Speaker 4: Cole, Jay-Z.
1:01:16
Speaker 14: He stands behind some of the biggest names in music
1:01:18
Speaker 14: as well, too. But the way that they're positioned.
1:01:20
Speaker 2: The Taurus, B.I.G., Usher.
1:01:21
Speaker 6: Yes.
1:01:21
Speaker 2: He's part of the Chris Brown and Usher tour. Put
1:01:23
Speaker 2: that together.
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Speaker 16: Yes.
1:01:24
Speaker 14: And they talk about that in this interview as well.
1:01:26
Speaker 14: But some of the biggest moments in hip hop, he
1:01:29
Speaker 14: stands behind it.
1:01:30
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
1:01:30
Speaker 4: As an architect. So this is kind of like an
1:01:32
Speaker 4: OG generational conversation.
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Speaker 20: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 14: They're talking about the fact that J. Cole, in his career,
1:01:38
Speaker 14: had to find himself. First, let's get into that, and
1:01:41
Speaker 14: then we'll get to whether J.
1:01:42
Speaker 4: Cole's retiring or not. Let's take a listen to J.
1:01:43
Speaker 4: Cole on finding himself.
1:01:46
Speaker 12: Play the game to change the game. You'll get to
1:01:48
Speaker 12: the point where you can move as free as I'm
1:01:50
Speaker 12: moving now. I had to put a chain on and
1:01:52
Speaker 12: a watch on just to know they're like, yo, I
1:01:55
Speaker 12: don't even, I don't need it.
1:01:57
Speaker 1: Even with the way you use the way to go watch.
1:02:00
Speaker 1: It was like, yo, take some links out.
1:02:01
Speaker 12: I had to watch. But it had too many links.
1:02:06
Speaker 12: I never had no real deal jewelry. So I got
1:02:08
Speaker 12: this big ass Rolex. But every time I'm talking to him,
1:02:12
Speaker 12: I'm doing this. It's funny because you bring up the
1:02:14
Speaker 12: source cover and it's like, I never knew that you
1:02:16
Speaker 12: even felt responsible for that. It's like, yo, when you
1:02:18
Speaker 12: know who you are, you don't allow yourself to do
1:02:21
Speaker 12: certain things. The only reason I would even be on
1:02:23
Speaker 12: that source cover with the leather jacket, with the joint.
1:02:25
Speaker 12: First of all, I got a source cover.
1:02:27
Speaker 2: Like, what is that?
1:02:28
Speaker 12: Just a year ago, I didn't have.
1:02:29
Speaker 5: No record deal or whatever it was.
1:02:30
Speaker 2: Now I got a source cover. Okay. Oh, but when
1:02:32
Speaker 2: you know who you are, if it don't resonate with you,
1:02:35
Speaker 2: it would be like, nah, Mike, that ain't me. I'm
1:02:37
Speaker 2: on a hoodie. Boom, boom, boom. Yeah.
1:02:39
Speaker 14: Now the source cover that they're talking about, J. Cole
1:02:42
Speaker 14: did that back in 2010. And on the cover, he's
1:02:46
Speaker 14: in this like leather jacket. But you guys know that J.
1:02:48
Speaker 14: Cole's aesthetic has been like synonymous with his career, like
1:02:51
Speaker 14: the everyday guy on the bike or whatever.
1:02:53
Speaker 4: He's just talking about being able to.
1:02:54
Speaker 2: Get to the point.
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Speaker 5: I thought you were going to talk about how he
1:02:56
Speaker 5: was retiring.
1:02:57
Speaker 14: We are going to get to that part of it. Yeah,
1:02:59
Speaker 14: that's the next clip. And the reason why I brought
1:03:01
Speaker 14: this up, though, is because he talks about how Mark
1:03:03
Speaker 14: has been one of those people in his corner that
1:03:05
Speaker 14: anytime he thought he was losing himself, he had to
1:03:07
Speaker 14: pick up the phone and call him. The retirement conversation
1:03:09
Speaker 14: then comes in. Let's take a listen to J. Cole
1:03:11
Speaker 14: saying he actually isn't going to retire anymore.
1:03:14
Speaker 2: What about you, Cole?
1:03:15
Speaker 15: 2027, we're going to see you disappear?
1:03:16
Speaker 2: Hold on here.
1:03:19
Speaker 1: He will retire again.
1:03:22
Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to use that word.
1:03:25
Speaker 5: After this tour right here?
1:03:27
Speaker 2: Come on, man.
1:03:28
Speaker 5: This is crazy.
1:03:29
Speaker 4: Are we still throwing the concept of retirement around?
1:03:32
Speaker 5: No, I'm not using that word at all. I'm not
1:03:34
Speaker 5: using that word.
1:03:36
Speaker 12: I was saying that I made the fall off with intentions, like, yo,
1:03:39
Speaker 12: when I was making that album, I was making it like, damn,
1:03:41
Speaker 12: it's going to be my last. Luckily, by the time
1:03:43
Speaker 12: I got to the last album, like, or to actually
1:03:46
Speaker 12: finishing the album, because of, you know, circumstances, it's like, oh, nah, like, nah,
1:03:50
Speaker 12: I'll never say I'm going to retire. I don't know
1:03:52
Speaker 12: whenever the next thing is going to happen, but it's like,
1:03:54
Speaker 12: I'm definitely not going to say no.
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Speaker 1: We didn't believe you when you said you was retiring
1:03:58
Speaker 1: the first time.
1:03:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think anybody did.
1:03:59
Speaker 4: I don't ever believe rappers when they say they're retiring.
1:04:01
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
1:04:02
Speaker 5: Nobody believed that in any way.
1:04:04
Speaker 14: But I understand where he was at in his life
1:04:07
Speaker 14: that might have made him feel that way, though.
1:04:09
Speaker 5: I don't believe anything J. Cole says.
1:04:10
Speaker 1: And the reason I don't believe anything J. Cole says
1:04:12
Speaker 1: is because he's human and he's not afraid to be human.
1:04:14
Speaker 1: So being that he's not afraid to be human, his
1:04:16
Speaker 1: indecisiveness will always be on display.
1:04:20
Speaker 14: So knowing that he's indecisive at the time I believed him,
1:04:22
Speaker 14: but I knew that it would change.
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Speaker 1: No, you didn't.
1:04:24
Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
1:04:25
Speaker 4: No, you didn't.
1:04:26
Speaker 2: For him, I knew it would change. I knew it
1:04:27
Speaker 2: would change because... But there's artists.
1:04:28
Speaker 3: Like Cam'ron, who's retired, and I'm sure Cam'ron is probably
1:04:31
Speaker 3: not going to do another album. Joe Button is not
1:04:32
Speaker 3: going to do another album.
1:04:33
Speaker 5: Cam is always rapping.
1:04:35
Speaker 14: Yeah, by doing music the way that he used to
1:04:37
Speaker 14: do it is what Evie is talking about.
1:04:38
Speaker 4: Like, put out a whole album, go on a tour.
1:04:40
Speaker 5: I think Cam would put out an album.
1:04:41
Speaker 1: Joe Button's never put out another album. Probably not, but
1:04:44
Speaker 1: I think Cam would put out another album. And Cam
1:04:47
Speaker 1: was just about to go on tour with the locks a.
1:04:49
Speaker 4: Couple years ago. But that's like.
1:04:51
Speaker 1: And then Cam and Mase was going to go out
1:04:53
Speaker 1: on tour, but they be dropping music.
1:04:55
Speaker 14: Yeah, but you know what we're saying though.
1:05:03
Speaker 4: But y'all remember when J.
1:05:04
Speaker 14: Cole was talking about today, he was going to take
1:05:05
Speaker 14: a step back and just be producing other artists and
1:05:07
Speaker 14: working with artists. I'm like, okay, if you're not leaving
1:05:09
Speaker 14: music entirely, it's not happening. I mean, he says that
1:05:12
Speaker 14: he's felt the love now, so he definitely ain't going nowhere.
1:05:14
Speaker 14: And that's what happens.
1:05:16
Speaker 5: What you mean felt the love? Who stopped loving J.
1:05:18
Speaker 1: Cole?
1:05:19
Speaker 5: We got to stop reducing people to moments.
1:05:21
Speaker 2: No, they did for a little bit. J.
1:05:22
Speaker 5: Cole had a moment.
1:05:23
Speaker 3: During the big three conversation, people said he backed out.
1:05:25
Speaker 3: They were testing him as an artist.
1:05:26
Speaker 5: Sure, but you still had.
1:05:28
Speaker 1: Your core fan base of people who loved you, who
1:05:30
Speaker 1: went out there and bought the fall off, who showed
1:05:32
Speaker 1: up to your tour.
1:05:33
Speaker 2: Help is called.
1:05:34
Speaker 4: Get back started.
1:05:35
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying?
1:05:36
Speaker 2: Sometimes the negativity is louder than the love. But that
1:05:39
Speaker 2: happened after.
1:05:39
Speaker 1: Get off social media.
1:05:40
Speaker 14: But also, too, he talks about in this interview just
1:05:42
Speaker 14: feeling like exhausted.
1:05:43
Speaker 1: All jokes aside, y'all really think when people be having
1:05:46
Speaker 1: these moments where social media gets upset at them that
1:05:49
Speaker 1: their whole fan base just leaves them? No.
1:05:52
Speaker 5: I can't possibly believe that.
1:05:53
Speaker 4: No, we don't believe that.
1:05:54
Speaker 2: I think it gets in the artist's head. We've seen
1:05:55
Speaker 2: it with J.
1:05:56
Speaker 1: Cole.
1:05:56
Speaker 9: Drake.
1:05:56
Speaker 2: I think we've seen it with Drake. I think we've
1:05:57
Speaker 2: seen it in Timeless.
1:05:59
Speaker 1: Once again, these people have cult-like followings of folks that
1:06:02
Speaker 1: love them. All you gotta do is turn off your phone.
1:06:04
Speaker 3: But when they go on tour, that's when they start
1:06:07
Speaker 3: getting the love back, and that's when they be like, oh,
1:06:08
Speaker 3: they do it.
1:06:09
Speaker 1: No, not getting it back, they never lost it.
1:06:11
Speaker 2: But sometimes they need that feeling.
1:06:12
Speaker 4: You feel it up close and personal.
1:06:13
Speaker 14: And what he said in this interview was that he
1:06:15
Speaker 14: was going through a period of just being, like, exhausted
1:06:17
Speaker 14: by all of the stuff.
1:06:18
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
1:06:18
Speaker 4: Him getting back on tour.
1:06:21
Speaker 14: And feeling the people, it gave him the energy of like, okay,
1:06:24
Speaker 14: I understand why I do this.
1:06:25
Speaker 2: Turn off your phone, J.
1:06:26
Speaker 7: Cole.
1:06:26
Speaker 5: How do you ride your city bike and be on
1:06:28
Speaker 5: the phone at the same time anyway?
1:06:29
Speaker 21: I was going to say, because what it sounds like
1:06:31
Speaker 21: is that he just was reading a lot of comments
1:06:34
Speaker 21: and scrolling and seeing all types of conversations he had
1:06:37
Speaker 21: about him.
1:06:38
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
1:06:38
Speaker 21: And then now that's his algorithm. Cause that's all he
1:06:41
Speaker 21: looking at.
1:06:41
Speaker 4: But he getting in person too, y'all. He got friends
1:06:44
Speaker 4: in the business that are calling him like, Ooh, you apologize.
1:06:47
Speaker 2: Wow.
1:06:47
Speaker 14: Like as a fan, you didn't want him to apologize
1:06:50
Speaker 14: because in this interview, even with the conversation that he's
1:06:53
Speaker 14: having with Mark Pitts, Mark Pitts is like, listen, as
1:06:55
Speaker 14: a fan, I was like, Oh, why did you do that?
1:06:58
Speaker 4: But as a man, I respected what you're, what you did.
1:07:00
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people.
1:07:01
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep telling y'all about the rule of
1:07:02
Speaker 1: 10 till the day I die. Three people are going
1:07:04
Speaker 1: to like it. Three people are not going to like it.
1:07:06
Speaker 1: Four people don't even know what the hell's going on.
1:07:08
Speaker 7: Right.
1:07:08
Speaker 5: Okay?
1:07:09
Speaker 1: Like, my daddy, and that's from my guy Cadillac Jack.
1:07:11
Speaker 1: My daddy used to say, you're never as good as
1:07:13
Speaker 1: they say you are. You're never as bad as they
1:07:14
Speaker 1: say you are. All of this is par for the course.
1:07:17
Speaker 2: Yes.
1:07:17
Speaker 5: And if you don't realize that, then you don't need
1:07:19
Speaker 5: to be in this.
1:07:20
Speaker 2: Artists have feelings, too.
1:07:21
Speaker 3: And I'm sure him listening to the radio, him listening
1:07:23
Speaker 3: to his friends, him listening to his fans that say,
1:07:25
Speaker 3: you know, I wish you didn't back down. You backing
1:07:27
Speaker 3: down was a sucker move. Like, people have been saying
1:07:29
Speaker 3: that for him, and I'm sure it affected him.
1:07:30
Speaker 1: Two things can be true. alright I thought it was
1:07:34
Speaker 1: lame but that don't mean he don't have a massive
1:07:36
Speaker 1: fan base that still.
1:07:37
Speaker 3: Loves him right but he doesn't know until he's on
1:07:39
Speaker 3: that road and they're cheering for him and they're asking
1:07:41
Speaker 3: for autographs and they're selling out shows and they're purchasing
1:07:43
Speaker 3: his albums sometimes.
1:07:45
Speaker 21: You gotta feel that he could've also just not been
1:07:49
Speaker 21: effing with Kendrick like he could've just been like yo
1:07:51
Speaker 21: I know I can't win this so I'm just gonna
1:07:53
Speaker 21: bow out I don't want the same thing to.
1:07:55
Speaker 4: Happen to me I mean it happened to Drake it
1:07:57
Speaker 4: happened to.
1:07:57
Speaker 3: Me it could've been that you can't do that not
1:08:00
Speaker 3: when you say you the best When you say you're
1:08:02
Speaker 3: one of the best, you can't say I can't mess
1:08:03
Speaker 3: with him. No, it's like you're a comedian and you
1:08:05
Speaker 3: say you're the best. You can't be afraid to go
1:08:07
Speaker 3: on stage with anybody.
1:08:08
Speaker 1: But as a human, I'm not mad at him for apologizing.
1:08:10
Speaker 1: If his heart wasn't in it and he didn't want
1:08:12
Speaker 1: to do it, cool. But as a rap fan, yeah,
1:08:14
Speaker 1: I do want to see him compete and get busy.
1:08:16
Speaker 1: But I also understand that he knows he's half white
1:08:19
Speaker 1: and not like us could apply to him too.
1:08:21
Speaker 5: So he had to fall back.
1:08:22
Speaker 2: See, see.
1:08:23
Speaker 1: Justin Cain.
1:08:24
Speaker 2: Now he's mad now. Now he's mad.
1:08:26
Speaker 5: Oh my God. Keep doing your thing, Cole.
1:08:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to them.
1:08:30
Speaker 2: Salute to Cole.
1:08:31
Speaker 14: You can check that conversation out in full with Frazier Thorpe,
1:08:33
Speaker 14: Mark Pitts, and J.
1:08:34
Speaker 4: Cole on GQ's YouTube channel. So go check that out.
1:08:37
Speaker 5: Drop on a cool bar for my guy, Frazier.
1:08:38
Speaker 14: You just said daddy, Charlamagne. You say yesterday, you don't
1:08:41
Speaker 14: say daddy. You said you were talking about your dad.
1:08:43
Speaker 14: You always say daddy when you talk about your dad.
1:08:45
Speaker 14: We were having a conversation about whether you say daddy
1:08:48
Speaker 14: or not when you talk about your dad.
1:08:48
Speaker 5: But he don't call his father daddy.
1:08:50
Speaker 4: Ain't nothing wrong with it.
1:08:52
Speaker 3: He always call me daddy. He call me daddy all
1:08:53
Speaker 3: the time. I just say pops and dad. He just
1:08:55
Speaker 3: say dad. Call me daddy.
1:08:56
Speaker 4: You answer.
1:08:57
Speaker 2: Call me. That was elated, y'all.
1:09:00
Speaker 5: You wish you could still call Puff daddy, don't you?
1:09:02
Speaker 2: Shut up, man.
1:09:02
Speaker 5: That's who you really miss.
1:09:04
Speaker 4: That was the latest, guys.
1:09:05
Speaker 5: That's who you really miss, huh?
1:09:06
Speaker 2: Daddy, who you giving your donkey to? Oh, my God.
1:09:10
Speaker 4: You are definitely my son. That was crazy. That was
1:09:14
Speaker 4: like unprovoked. He palmed the granola, daddy. And looked him
1:09:17
Speaker 4: in his eyes.
1:09:18
Speaker 7: Yes.
1:09:18
Speaker 5: You saw that, right?
1:09:19
Speaker 2: Harming the nuts.
1:09:20
Speaker 5: You saw that, right? This is granola.
1:09:22
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Speaker 2: Who you giving your donkey to, man?
1:09:35
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1:09:40
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1:09:42
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1:09:44
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Speaker 2: Donkey of the Day is up next.
1:09:54
Speaker 13: You use that donkey thing that he on, he on.
1:09:57
Speaker 15: There's a bunch of donkeys around here.
1:10:00
Speaker 1: It's time for Donkey of the Day.
1:10:02
Speaker 13: I got my donkey of the day for being hot.
1:10:05
Speaker 2: They made me the donkey of the day by the
1:10:07
Speaker 2: things that I said.
1:10:08
Speaker 6: Damn, Charlamagne.
1:10:08
Speaker 1: Some donkey of the days just saw themselves.
1:10:12
Speaker 2: It was you.
1:10:12
Speaker 4: What accountability are you taking?
1:10:14
Speaker 2: I'd have made donkey of the day on the breakfast club.
1:10:17
Speaker 2: That being said, I want to start off with this
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Speaker 2: donkey right here.
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Speaker 5: Dominic here today for Thursday, October 29th.
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Speaker 1: Goes to a truck driver in Philadelphia named Marty Maruki.
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Speaker 1: I think I'm pronouncing his name right. Now, we are
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Speaker 1: coming to Philadelphia tomorrow. We will be broadcasting from Lincoln
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Speaker 1: Financial Field for One Philly HBCU Week. Dropping a few
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Speaker 1: bombs for One Philly HBCU Week. All right, salute to
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Speaker 1: Morgan & Morgan for being our sponsor for that. And Philly,
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, point me to whoever got
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Speaker 1: the crab legs for the love, okay? Because according to
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Speaker 1: 6ABC in Philadelphia, this brother Marty was sleeping in his
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Speaker 1: tractor trailer at approximately 4 in the morning in southwest
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia on the 3600 block of Island Avenue when six
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Speaker 1: men broke into the back of his tractor trailer and
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Speaker 1: stole 3,000 pounds! of crab legs jesus i can't make
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Speaker 1: this kind of stuff up let's go to 6 abc
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Speaker 1: for the report please.
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Speaker 8: I was dreaming was windy and the truck was shaking
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Speaker 8: i knew oh.
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Speaker 20: Oh marty mariocchi was sleeping in the cab of his
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Speaker 20: truck when he realized guys were in the back stealing
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Speaker 20: frozen snow crabs he was supposed to deliver He showed
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Speaker 20: us where he says they broke the latch off the
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Speaker 20: back at around 4 o'clock this morning.
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Speaker 8: And then I told him, hey, that's stopped. That's enough.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to lose my job.
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Speaker 8: And then I find out real quick I was in
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Speaker 8: the wrong place.
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Speaker 20: Mariocchi isn't from Philadelphia and arrived early before the business opened,
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Speaker 20: so he decided to park near other trucks to take
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Speaker 20: a nap. He thought the 3400 block of Island Avenue
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Speaker 20: in southwest Philadelphia was a good spot to rest. He
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Speaker 20: says his interaction with the suspects took a scary turn.
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Speaker 8: One guy said, we'll pay you. And then all of
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Speaker 8: a sudden I said, uh-uh. Then one guy charged on me.
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Speaker 8: So I had to run from that corner all the
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Speaker 8: way to the safe place.
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Speaker 2: This was terrible.
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Speaker 8: The thing was lighting up the resident team.
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Speaker 20: Southwest detectives say six males got away with 3,000 pounds
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Speaker 20: of stolen seafood.
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Speaker 1: Joel Embiid's cousin Marty said, oh, okay. Jalen hurts out
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Speaker 1: for the season, and now folks in Philly don't got
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Speaker 1: nothing else to do. Okay, LeBron, you better take the
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Speaker 1: 76ers to the promised land, because if not, the Tyson's
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Speaker 1: food tracked the trailer with all the chicken wings about
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Speaker 1: to get hit hard. Now, I need to say, I
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Speaker 1: am happy this brother Marty is alive and unharmed. Because
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Speaker 1: what happened to him is absolutely a crime. But sometimes
1:12:34
Speaker 1: you can be the victim of a crime and still
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Speaker 1: have me questioning your decision making and giving you donkey
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Speaker 1: of the day. Marty, OK, my brother, black man, you
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Speaker 1: know damn well you can't go to sleep in Philly,
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Speaker 1: southwest Philadelphia.
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Speaker 5: OK, with three thousand pounds of crab legs.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 5: Do you understand what three thousand pounds of crab legs
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Speaker 5: means to black people? OK.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's not a shipment. OK, that's a blessing.
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Speaker 7: All right.
1:13:00
Speaker 1: You out there praying to God for things to turn around.
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Speaker 1: You out there praying to God to be able to
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Speaker 1: provide for your family. And instead of God making it
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Speaker 1: rain manna, he made it rain crab legs. OK, three
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Speaker 1: thousand pounds of crab legs is enough crab legs to
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Speaker 1: turn southwest Philadelphia into a red lobster. And you parked
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Speaker 1: that truck and went to sleep. Like you were just
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Speaker 1: out here transporting office supplies or something.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
1:13:24
Speaker 5: Don't nobody want no damn stapler.
1:13:25
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: Office Depot truck can post up there untouched, but Southwest Philly,
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Speaker 1: the 3,600 block on Island Avenue.
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Speaker 7: Okay.
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Speaker 1: According to the census report and U.S. Census Bureau, 55%
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Speaker 1: of the residents there are black. That community came together,
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Speaker 1: one band, one sound, to steal 3,000 pounds of crab
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Speaker 1: legs out of your truck while you were sleeping in it, okay?
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Speaker 1: And all it took was six people, all right? A
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Speaker 1: Ford F-150 and a Dodge Caravan. A devil damn Dodge Caravan.
1:13:54
Speaker 1: You know it's about the kids when you pull up
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Speaker 1: to the seafood heist in the family minivan. OK, you
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Speaker 1: take them kids car seats out the back and you
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Speaker 1: think about all the seafood boils you.
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Speaker 5: About to have from now to Christmas.
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Speaker 1: And my favorite part of the story is when Marty
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Speaker 1: talks about how he woke up and he saw these
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Speaker 1: men stealing his crab legs. So he got out of
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Speaker 1: his truck and told him to stop because he didn't
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Speaker 1: want to lose his job.
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Speaker 5: Marty, respectfully, they didn't give.
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Speaker 1: A damn about your job the way Rick James didn't
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Speaker 1: give a damn about Eddie Murphy's couch. OK, you think
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Speaker 1: they're going to stop because you asked politely? Marty said
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Speaker 1: one of the men told him they would pay him,
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Speaker 1: and then another man started chasing him down the street.
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Speaker 1: Now Marty's running for his life while they running off
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Speaker 1: with the crab legs.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Marty, you got to.
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Speaker 1: Know when to hold them, know when to fold them,
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Speaker 1: know when to walk away, and know when to stay
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Speaker 1: in the truck.
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Speaker 5: Okay, your boss just going to have to understand.
1:14:41
Speaker 1: All right. And if he doesn't, you tell his monkey
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Speaker 1: ass to go park in southwest Philly with a truck
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Speaker 1: full of seafood and see what happens. OK, somebody's auntie
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Speaker 1: got a freezer full of snow crabs right now. Now,
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Speaker 1: I am fully aware that thieves are the criminals. They're
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Speaker 1: the ones who deserve to be arrested. And I'm glad
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Speaker 1: to drive a maiden home safely. But I need everybody safe.
1:15:03
Speaker 1: transporting valuable cargo to understand something. You cannot assume that
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Speaker 1: just because you're asleep, everybody else is.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 1: You are transporting the main ingredient for the biggest bonding
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Speaker 1: experience in Philadelphia history. And you think them nut ass
1:15:18
Speaker 1: Negroes in Philly is going to mind their business.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
1:15:21
Speaker 1: They got family reunions and graduation parties and baby showers
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Speaker 1: and repath. Somebody's 50th birthday party celebration coming up. And
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Speaker 1: it's all sitting there in one truck, just a good
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Speaker 1: old time.
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Speaker 5: And you think Southwest Philadelphia is going to miss that blessing?
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Speaker 7: Huh?
1:15:38
Speaker 1: Somebody's mama is looking around on their counter this morning saying,
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Speaker 1: look what God did.
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Speaker 5: No, no, ma'am, he didn't. Okay, that's six men in
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Speaker 5: a Dodge Caravan.
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Speaker 1: Mm-mm-mm.
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Speaker 5: Please give the good brother, Marty Maruki, the sweet sounds
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Speaker 5: of the hammer tones.
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Speaker 3: Oh, now you are the donkey of the day.
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Speaker 15: You are the donkey of.
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Speaker 2: The day.
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Speaker 6: Yee-haw.
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Speaker 4: Boosting niggas. Give me them crabs.
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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying?
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Speaker 21: For my seafood boy, you'll beg.
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Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying?
1:16:17
Speaker 4: You already know what's going on.
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Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying?
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Speaker 16: Uh-oh.
1:16:19
Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
1:16:20
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying, yeah, uh-oh.
1:16:21
Speaker 16: It's right.
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Speaker 4: But he should have let them men pay him. At
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Speaker 4: least they.
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Speaker 5: Offered to pay him. No, they was not going to
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Speaker 5: pay him.
1:16:28
Speaker 2: No, they wasn't.
1:16:29
Speaker 1: They just told him that to stall for a minute.
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Speaker 1: And the other dude was like, man, I'm falling. Get
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Speaker 1: out of here.
1:16:34
Speaker 2: But they ain't hurt him. Because he ran.
1:16:37
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, they could have caught his ass.
1:16:39
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
1:16:40
Speaker 4: They ain't even hurt him. No, no, no.
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Speaker 2: Listen. Because they're going to say, why did you park there?
1:16:45
Speaker 2: He didn't know where he was at.
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Speaker 4: He don't even sound like he from here.
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Speaker 5: Uh-oh.
1:16:49
Speaker 4: Like, he don't know.
1:16:50
Speaker 1: That's Joel Embiid's cousin. He knew exactly where he was.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he shouldn't have parked there.
1:16:53
Speaker 4: No, he did not. Why would he say.
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Speaker 21: He not only risking the crab legs, he risking his life.
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Speaker 21: Why would he risk his life? He didn't know where
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Speaker 21: he was at. He saw other trucks and was like,
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Speaker 21: all right, let.
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Speaker 2: Me go in.
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: That happened one time when I had one of my
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Speaker 3: car shows and the guy trailed the cars to Atlanta
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Speaker 3: and he stopped in a spot in Georgia that he
1:17:11
Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to stop at.
1:17:12
Speaker 2: And they called me. It was like, Envy, is this
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Speaker 2: your color cars up here?
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Speaker 5: And I'm like, yeah.
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Speaker 2: They was like, they about to rob the whole truck.
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Speaker 2: You better tell the driver to get the truck out
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Speaker 2: of here. But, like, there's certain places where you're not
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Speaker 2: supposed to.
1:17:22
Speaker 4: And you don't know because if you're not from that city,
1:17:25
Speaker 4: they ain't know.
1:17:26
Speaker 5: Envy always want to sound connected to the streets.
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Speaker 1: All the time. No matter what it is. There's some
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Speaker 1: random dude. Hey, man, we about to rob the whole truck,
1:17:31
Speaker 1: but we think them your cars.
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 4: Of all the people they could have called, they just called.
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Speaker 2: Envy up in New York.
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Speaker 3: Yo, they called my peoples in Atlanta. My peoples in
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Speaker 3: Atlanta called me. It was like, is that Envy's cause?
1:17:42
Speaker 3: Because we've seen something that he posted on there.
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Speaker 5: You see that, right? They called the people in Atlanta.
1:17:46
Speaker 5: They called him. First of all, they called him directly.
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Speaker 8: They said, yo, Envy.
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Speaker 13: And I want to know how do I introduce really,
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Speaker 21: you wanted to do?
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Speaker 13: No, it's just something I wanted to do. Like I've
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Speaker 13: only had two sex partners my entire life and I'm
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Speaker 13: going on 40.
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Speaker 13: have been looking into more porn sites and stuff like that.
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Speaker 13: Things that really interest me. But I am very confused
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Speaker 13: as you introduce these things to him without him looking
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Speaker 7: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Now, what are some of the kinky things? It depends.
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Speaker 4: You can't confuse kinky with weird. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: What are some things you want to do? And listen,
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Speaker 4: we can hear you. We can't see you. So you
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Speaker 4: can just tell me.
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Speaker 13: So it's kind of hard to go from where we
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Speaker 13: are now to that. But, you know, it's something that
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Speaker 13: I wanted to do and I don't know how much
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Speaker 13: longer I can put it off.
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Speaker 21: cannot see you. We can hear you and we don't judge.
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Speaker 21: Unless you need to be judged right now. Have you
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Speaker 21: right now?
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Speaker 4: Just be honest.
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Speaker 13: Absolutely not. It's boring, but yeah. It's always been a
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Speaker 13: good sex life, but now I want to introduce new things.
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Speaker 13: I'm really, really nervous about doing that because I don't
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Speaker 13: want him to think like, oh my God, who did
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Speaker 13: I marry?
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Speaker 21: Right, yeah, but it's okay. He know who he married
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Speaker 21: because he know you only had two sex partners, right?
1:20:25
Speaker 21: right and he knows that you're very inexperienced right right
1:20:29
Speaker 21: he also knows you're grown and honestly the older you
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Speaker 21: get the freakier you get and the more you don't
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Speaker 21: care exactly right so he has to know these things
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1:20:43
Speaker 21: just because you had two sex partners don't mean he
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Speaker 21: only had two he probably i mean it's just certain
1:20:47
Speaker 21: things a man ain't gonna subject himself to sexually right
1:20:50
Speaker 21: okay But he may be open.
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Speaker 4: To using toys on you. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: Have you ever used them on yourself?
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Speaker 2: I do.
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Speaker 7: A lot.
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Speaker 13: And that's where it... And he's watched. Like, we make
1:21:02
Speaker 13: porn tapes and we watch them back.
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Speaker 21: So why he gonna think you weird if you take
1:21:06
Speaker 21: it a step further?
1:21:07
Speaker 4: Y'all already doing some... You know, and this is your husband.
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Speaker 13: He's never seen before that I'm hiding. It's a lot
1:21:12
Speaker 13: of other things. Like, I bought a woman's bottom half, and.
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Speaker 15: It's, like, made of silicone.
1:21:19
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
1:21:19
Speaker 13: And I want to see him do something with that,
1:21:21
Speaker 13: you know.
1:21:22
Speaker 7: Oh, okay, okay.
1:21:24
Speaker 13: I don't want to introduce another female to my marriage.
1:21:26
Speaker 13: I think that's just something that I can't.
1:21:28
Speaker 4: That's where the line stops. Like, that's where it just, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
1:21:32
Speaker 13: Yeah, so I bought a woman silicone. It's just like
1:21:36
Speaker 13: a real person. It moves like a real person.
1:21:39
Speaker 12: Yeah.
1:21:39
Speaker 13: You know, and I wanted to see him maybe do
1:21:41
Speaker 13: something with that, being that I want to introduce another female.
1:21:44
Speaker 13: But I don't know if you'd be like, what? Like, why?
1:21:47
Speaker 21: Yo, and even if he does, you tell him why.
1:21:50
Speaker 21: Because this is what I want to do. And I
1:21:52
Speaker 21: was afraid of you judging me. But like, yo, look,
1:21:55
Speaker 21: I can't fight these urges anymore.
1:21:57
Speaker 4: I want to get freakier and freakier.
1:21:59
Speaker 1: I just can't fight these feelings anymore.
1:22:01
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll find it crazy. I don't.
1:22:03
Speaker 3: I think if you get one night and you be like, baby,
1:22:05
Speaker 3: I want some sexy time, and you set it all
1:22:07
Speaker 3: up for him, I.
1:22:08
Speaker 2: Think he already knows. You already doing pornos.
1:22:10
Speaker 4: You already doing stuff like that.
1:22:12
Speaker 3: I would get one night of Friday night, Saturday night,
1:22:15
Speaker 3: you know, turn the lights down, light some candles, and.
1:22:18
Speaker 2: You put your stuff out and be like, babe, I
1:22:19
Speaker 2: want to take care of you.
1:22:20
Speaker 5: Why the hell should she listen to you?
1:22:21
Speaker 4: I was going to say, listen, Envy, all right.
1:22:24
Speaker 21: But she talking about, you talking about like a nice
1:22:26
Speaker 21: little love making.
1:22:27
Speaker 8: No, no, I'm just saying.
1:22:28
Speaker 4: No, she's talking about bonding. Bringing out the whips and
1:22:31
Speaker 4: chains on this man.
1:22:32
Speaker 2: That night she set up that sexy time and said,
1:22:34
Speaker 2: this Friday I want a sexy time.
1:22:35
Speaker 1: She want freaky time.
1:22:38
Speaker 4: Ain't no candles.
1:22:39
Speaker 3: Ain't no dim lights.
1:22:42
Speaker 4: Get mad. Get that red LED light.
1:22:46
Speaker 5: That's right.
1:22:47
Speaker 1: I'm f * * * ing you tonight.
1:22:49
Speaker 2: Exactly.
1:22:49
Speaker 5: If you want to make love.
1:22:50
Speaker 21: Get a red LED light. Get a little cat suit.
1:22:53
Speaker 21: Bring out that whip. Put on them six-inch stiletto boots.
1:22:57
Speaker 2: I said go for it.
1:22:57
Speaker 4: And do your thing. Like, stop playing.
1:23:00
Speaker 2: Okay.
1:23:01
Speaker 4: Okay.
1:23:01
Speaker 13: Period.
1:23:02
Speaker 2: And then tell us how it is after. Then call
1:23:03
Speaker 2: us next week and tell us how it worked out. Absolutely.
1:23:05
Speaker 4: I guarantee you he's not going.
1:23:06
Speaker 6: To let you.
1:23:07
Speaker 16: I sure will.
1:23:07
Speaker 2: No, I want to see if he's cool with it.
1:23:09
Speaker 5: You want to see if he what?
1:23:11
Speaker 2: You know what? This guy. Just don't try to listen.
1:23:13
Speaker 5: You know I told Jeff to fix my message.
1:23:15
Speaker 1: That's why you need to hush.
1:23:16
Speaker 4: Just don't. Yo, go through a mix.
1:23:18
Speaker 2: Yo, don't.
1:23:20
Speaker 4: Don't put no toys in this man's * * * *, though.
1:23:23
Speaker 4: I'm not playing with you. Don't do that.
1:23:25
Speaker 1: I'm not.
1:23:26
Speaker 4: I'm not.
1:23:26
Speaker 13: That's off the table because I want to start slow
1:23:29
Speaker 13: and work.
1:23:29
Speaker 4: My way through. Right.
1:23:30
Speaker 1: Let him.
1:23:31
Speaker 4: You know how you test that out, though? When you
1:23:33
Speaker 4: giving him some nice * * * *, you just like,
1:23:35
Speaker 4: you kind of like.
1:23:38
Speaker 21: Like, a little bit and then go back a little
1:23:40
Speaker 21: further and see if he jump.
1:23:42
Speaker 4: If he don't, if he jump, nah, leave that alone.
1:23:45
Speaker 4: Do not enter.
1:23:46
Speaker 21: But if he's relaxed and it don't make him no difference,
1:23:51
Speaker 21: then he's ready for that action.
1:23:53
Speaker 4: You understand?
1:23:54
Speaker 15: Okay, okay.
1:23:55
Speaker 2: So I just been there.
1:23:55
Speaker 20: I'm ready too.
1:23:56
Speaker 13: I got everything ready. I got everything I need.
1:23:58
Speaker 4: Then there you are.
1:23:59
Speaker 2: Tell her don't start with the thumb. Thumb will hurt.
1:24:00
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:24:01
Speaker 4: And if you do, clip your nail. Clip your nails, man.
1:24:04
Speaker 1: You know, boy.
1:24:04
Speaker 4: Bitches be having the nails.
1:24:06
Speaker 5: I just don't know why you just don't shut up.
1:24:07
Speaker 5: I just don't get it. I don't understand why.
1:24:09
Speaker 4: All right, baby, call me back and update me next week.
1:24:11
Speaker 2: Thank you.
1:24:12
Speaker 7: I will.
1:24:12
Speaker 13: I'll keep you updated. Thank you so much.
1:24:13
Speaker 2: No problem.
1:24:14
Speaker 4: Got you.
1:24:15
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why Envy just kept feeling the
1:24:17
Speaker 1: need to intervene.
1:24:19
Speaker 2: Yo, seriously.
1:24:20
Speaker 15: Yeah.
1:24:20
Speaker 2: All right.
1:24:20
Speaker 1: Don't start with the thumb.
1:24:21
Speaker 4: Don't start with the thumb.
1:24:23
Speaker 14: Like, yo.
1:24:23
Speaker 2: Jess, fix my mess. Call back.
1:24:24
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell us how it went because I
1:24:25
Speaker 1: want to see if he.
1:24:27
Speaker 6: What? Right.
1:24:27
Speaker 2: I want to see if he.
1:24:28
Speaker 15: 800-585-1051.
1:24:29
Speaker 2: I hate y'all's breakfast.
1:24:30
Speaker 5: Don't call me.
1:24:31
Speaker 1: X about me.
1:24:32
Speaker 4: Relationship problems. X about me. You need to beat your
1:24:35
Speaker 4: co-worker's ass.
1:24:36
Speaker 1: X about me.
1:24:37
Speaker 4: Your co-worker need to beat your ass.
1:24:38
Speaker 2: Call it up.
1:24:40
Speaker 4: It's Dr. Jess and I'm here to fix your mess.
1:24:42
Speaker 4: It's getting very much messy.
1:24:45
Speaker 5: Let me fix this.
1:24:46
Speaker 2: Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
1:24:50
Speaker 2: We are The Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of.
1:24:52
Speaker 3: Jess Fix My Mess. Now, we have Christian on the line.
1:24:56
Speaker 3: Christian is having a problem with his baby moms.
1:24:58
Speaker 4: What's up, Christian? How you doing?
1:24:59
Speaker 15: Oh, what's up? Oh, my God, I'm on.
1:25:02
Speaker 4: Yes, you are.
1:25:02
Speaker 7: Oh, my God.
1:25:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at you.
1:25:04
Speaker 4: You're so cool.
1:25:05
Speaker 16: No, seriously.
1:25:07
Speaker 15: But, hey, first thing, I just wanted to shout out
1:25:10
Speaker 15: Robert Powell and the family. I think you know them.
1:25:13
Speaker 15: I think that's your, like, cousin or uncle.
1:25:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my uncle.
1:25:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:25:18
Speaker 15: Yeah, I went to go see him, like, back in
1:25:20
Speaker 15: September because he used to be my neighbor. And I
1:25:22
Speaker 15: just wanted to give a big shout out. A lot
1:25:24
Speaker 15: of love and tons of love and healing, you know?
1:25:27
Speaker 4: Wow, I appreciate that. How he look when you saw him?
1:25:31
Speaker 15: He's doing, he's hanging in there.
1:25:33
Speaker 7: Yeah.
1:25:33
Speaker 15: I hope you can give him a call and give
1:25:35
Speaker 15: him some energy, you know?
1:25:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, most definitely. Thank you. I appreciate you for that, man.
1:25:39
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah.
1:25:40
Speaker 15: So I was just calling because I've been having like
1:25:43
Speaker 15: a lot of problems with my baby mom the past
1:25:45
Speaker 15: few months.
1:25:45
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:25:46
Speaker 15: It's just like, I've always like been very mutual with
1:25:50
Speaker 15: her and trying to work things out. But like, it's
1:25:54
Speaker 15: just been impossible the last few months.
1:25:56
Speaker 2: Okay.
1:25:57
Speaker 4: What specifically is going on?
1:26:00
Speaker 15: Well, because, like, every day I'm a landscaper. So right
1:26:04
Speaker 15: now I'm, like, right now I'm working. I'm spraying and stuff.
1:26:09
Speaker 4: Okay.
1:26:10
Speaker 15: So I work four days a week for my job,
1:26:13
Speaker 15: and then I'd have one day where I kind of
1:26:15
Speaker 15: do my own landscaping stuff.
1:26:16
Speaker 4: Okay.
1:26:17
Speaker 15: But every day it's this thing where, like, she thinks
1:26:20
Speaker 15: I'm going out with some girls or something.
1:26:22
Speaker 2: Okay.
1:26:23
Speaker 16: It's, it's, I don't, I don't really know what to do.
1:26:25
Speaker 15: And this has been going on for years. And specifically
1:26:28
Speaker 15: it's like this neighbor across the street that we have.
1:26:32
Speaker 15: And like, she constantly thinks that I'm doing something with
1:26:35
Speaker 15: this woman. And I don't even know this woman like that.
1:26:38
Speaker 15: And it's to the point where like, I'm trying to
1:26:40
Speaker 15: get her out of the house, but she doesn't have
1:26:42
Speaker 15: nothing really going on. And I don't, I don't really
1:26:44
Speaker 15: know what to do. And we have two kids. She
1:26:46
Speaker 15: has a daughter of own. I have a son with
1:26:48
Speaker 15: her and it's just like been impossible these last few months. Like,
1:26:52
Speaker 15: This last week, I've had to stonewall her because it's just... Nothing,
1:26:59
Speaker 15: you know, like, nothing I do... Is good enough.
1:27:01
Speaker 21: Or is convincing that you're a faithful man, that you
1:27:05
Speaker 21: want to be in this relationship and you're just working.
1:27:08
Speaker 15: At this point, I don't even know what she thinks
1:27:10
Speaker 15: I am. Like, I've tried to be a faithful man. Like,
1:27:13
Speaker 15: we try to work things out in the past. I mean,
1:27:15
Speaker 15: my son is seven years old. So you can imagine, like,
1:27:18
Speaker 15: through all these years, like, it's been on and off,
1:27:21
Speaker 15: on and off. And then last year, I lost my
1:27:23
Speaker 15: mother at the beginning of the year.
1:27:24
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
1:27:25
Speaker 6: Like.
1:27:25
Speaker 15: It's been just a whirlwind of things going on, and, like,
1:27:29
Speaker 15: you know, nothing I can do is, like.
1:27:31
Speaker 4: Did something ever happen? Have you cheated on her before,
1:27:34
Speaker 4: whether it was one time, before in the past, or whatever?
1:27:36
Speaker 4: Did something happen?
1:27:37
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm going to be straight up with you. Like,
1:27:39
Speaker 15: when I was back, back before, like, when I was...
1:27:42
Speaker 15: Before I was ever doing landscaping and stuff, I used
1:27:44
Speaker 15: to work in a little grocery store, and you know
1:27:46
Speaker 15: how it is in the grocery store. You see girls
1:27:47
Speaker 15: coming in and out. You know, I'd get numbers, this
1:27:50
Speaker 15: and that, and I'm going to be honest with you.
1:27:51
Speaker 15: This was, like, let's say I'm... So it's like six
1:27:55
Speaker 15: or seven years ago, eight years ago, when all that
1:27:58
Speaker 15: was going on. And yeah, and that ended up coming out. And,
1:28:02
Speaker 15: you know, we try to come through, like, you know.
1:28:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, man. Listen, that y'all never healed from that. Well,
1:28:10
Speaker 4: not y'all, her. She never healed from that.
1:28:14
Speaker 21: She said that she may have thought she moved on
1:28:17
Speaker 21: and thought that she forgave you, but she certainly didn't forget.
1:28:21
Speaker 21: And she's certainly have developed some insecurities from that incident,
1:28:26
Speaker 21: those incidents. You were working at the goddamn grocery store.
1:28:29
Speaker 21: Now you're a landscaper. You understand what I'm saying? So
1:28:33
Speaker 21: you mowing bitches' lawns, man.
1:28:34
Speaker 15: Like, you know. I don't even come in contact I
1:28:37
Speaker 15: don't even mow lawns I actually just spray lawns I
1:28:39
Speaker 15: don't even come in contact with my customers like I
1:28:42
Speaker 15: literally just spray lawns and keep it moving. And from
1:28:46
Speaker 15: back then, I understand completely. But we've done so much
1:28:52
Speaker 15: to try to move past that. I even got out
1:28:54
Speaker 15: of that grocery. I got kicked out of that grocery
1:28:56
Speaker 15: store because of that.
1:28:58
Speaker 4: Right.
1:28:59
Speaker 1: Don't say you got out of there.
1:29:01
Speaker 4: You got kicked out of there.
1:29:03
Speaker 7: No, no, no.
1:29:03
Speaker 15: It was because I was working with my father. And
1:29:06
Speaker 15: it was an ultimatum he gave me. He was like, yo,
1:29:09
Speaker 15: either you're going to leave this girl.
1:29:15
Speaker 6: Hello?
1:29:16
Speaker 5: Hello?
1:29:18
Speaker 4: Hello?
1:29:19
Speaker 2: Chad?
1:29:20
Speaker 4: Damn, I think his phone hung up. He's spraying somebody's lawn. Damn, yo. Nah, see,
1:29:26
Speaker 4: people be burying the lead, yo. That's what that is.
1:29:29
Speaker 4: He cheated on his girl. It's almost six, seven, eight. Nah,
1:29:31
Speaker 4: six years ago.
1:29:32
Speaker 9: Damn.
1:29:33
Speaker 21: It's almost she been acting, like, weird. Like, I'm not
1:29:35
Speaker 21: going to work and everything. Like, you know, for years now. Yeah,
1:29:40
Speaker 21: she didn't get past the first time, second time, third
1:29:42
Speaker 21: time that you cheated on her.
1:29:44
Speaker 7: Dang.
1:29:45
Speaker 4: When you was working at the f * * *
1:29:46
Speaker 4: ing grocery store, bro. Like, what do you think this is?
1:29:49
Speaker 16: Yeah.
1:29:50
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1:30:02
Speaker 2: Talk to me.
1:30:03
Speaker 16: Where is Blanket?
1:30:05
Speaker 4: Oh, you only got five minutes.
1:30:08
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
1:30:09
Speaker 5: All right, y'all.
1:30:10
Speaker 14: Not where's Blanket. So let's get into a conversation that
1:30:33
Speaker 14: is circulating right now. Mace Cameron and Treasure Wilson on
1:30:36
Speaker 14: It Is What It Is. We're talking and reacting to
1:30:39
Speaker 14: the fact that Jay-Z has been announced as the Super Bowl.
1:30:42
Speaker 4: What you laughing at, Envy?
1:30:43
Speaker 2: We will find a Jay-Z story to talk about.
1:30:44
Speaker 5: I'm talking about.
1:30:45
Speaker 4: Every single goddamn day.
1:30:47
Speaker 2: And this story, they did this like three, four days ago.
1:30:48
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something.
1:30:50
Speaker 15: Yes.
1:30:50
Speaker 4: They did it?
1:30:50
Speaker 15: Yes.
1:30:51
Speaker 14: So they are reacting to Jay-Z in the whole Super
1:30:54
Speaker 14: Bowl conversation. So first, they opened it with Sean Some Love.
1:30:58
Speaker 14: Let's take a listen to Kim and Mace and Treasure.
1:31:00
Speaker 17: Who else could have done it, though? Kanye, Drake, Chris Brown,
1:31:05
Speaker 17: people he don't like.
1:31:07
Speaker 5: Ho, we on to you, ho.
1:31:11
Speaker 1: But I dig it, man.
1:31:12
Speaker 17: It's his show. He get to pick his self. He
1:31:15
Speaker 17: sat with his self. He told his self, self, we
1:31:19
Speaker 17: need to do this show. Do you want to do
1:31:21
Speaker 17: the show? And Self said, I feel like I.
1:31:24
Speaker 2: Could do it.
1:31:24
Speaker 17: Well, then I'll be doing it. Give me two weeks
1:31:27
Speaker 17: to think about it. And I'll see how I get
1:31:32
Speaker 17: back to you. Drake couldn't do it. He don't have
1:31:34
Speaker 17: enough records.
1:31:35
Speaker 14: Per TMZ, it's saying the frontrunners were Justin Bieber and
1:31:39
Speaker 14: Harry Styles.
1:31:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, right.
1:31:41
Speaker 17: Hov is the most calculated guy we probably know in
1:31:44
Speaker 17: the world. Shout out to Hov. Shout out to the
1:31:46
Speaker 17: whole Roc Nation. I wish you all the best. Have
1:31:49
Speaker 17: a great show. We'll be watching.
1:31:51
Speaker 5: To my right nation, I'm really referring to Jay-Z and Warren.
1:31:54
Speaker 12: Whether you like them, you love them, or hate them,
1:31:57
Speaker 12: you've got to respect the business.
1:31:59
Speaker 7: Word.
1:31:59
Speaker 5: And he should be doing it.
1:32:01
Speaker 7: Okay.
1:32:02
Speaker 1: Celebrating 30 years of his, the most dominant career in
1:32:06
Speaker 1: hip hop.
1:32:06
Speaker 4: No, we've had that conversation.
1:32:07
Speaker 14: Celebrating 30 years of the most dominant career in hip hop.
1:32:11
Speaker 14: Can we talk about the most strategic part of it?
1:32:13
Speaker 14: Because I feel like we all were like a part
1:32:15
Speaker 14: of this whole thing. And a lot of people wasn't
1:32:16
Speaker 14: paying attention to what was going on, but I feel
1:32:18
Speaker 14: like this was so calculated.
1:32:20
Speaker 4: You knew for a long time. There's no way you
1:32:22
Speaker 4: did not.
1:32:22
Speaker 12: We've been talking about the same conversation for.
1:32:24
Speaker 4: The last three years. Literally, yes.
1:32:27
Speaker 21: We all were a part of this big storyline and
1:32:30
Speaker 21: didn't even know it.
1:32:30
Speaker 2: I love Hov like everybody else, but we've been talking
1:32:32
Speaker 2: the story the last.
1:32:33
Speaker 8: Three days, four days.
1:32:34
Speaker 4: Yes, and I am here with you.
1:32:36
Speaker 2: Hov's going to do the Super Bowl. It is what
1:32:38
Speaker 2: it is.
1:32:38
Speaker 1: Jay-Z doing the Super Bowl was a very, very predictable thing, okay?
1:32:43
Speaker 1: He's celebrating 30 years of his career.
1:32:45
Speaker 2: This is crazy.
1:32:46
Speaker 1: He's been outside all year. Why wouldn't he do it?
1:32:51
Speaker 1: I wanted Miley Cyrus, but hey, sometimes we can't get
1:32:53
Speaker 1: everything we want.
1:32:54
Speaker 4: All of that stuff.
1:32:55
Speaker 5: I'll settle for Jay.
1:32:56
Speaker 14: The punk news, breaking the story, all of it was calculated.
1:32:59
Speaker 1: Is this all we got?
1:33:00
Speaker 2: Tomorrow she's going to do another story. She's going to
1:33:01
Speaker 2: do another story. You know Hov's doing the Super Bowl.
1:33:03
Speaker 2: I love Hov like you.
1:33:05
Speaker 4: Jesus, I did a mix.
1:33:06
Speaker 14: I am going to do what is aggregated in the room.
1:33:09
Speaker 14: You know, you have interest. I lean into those. So
1:33:11
Speaker 14: does Jess. So does Charlamagne. And I am here in
1:33:13
Speaker 14: the middle.
1:33:13
Speaker 2: Charlamagne is the reason we did it.
1:33:14
Speaker 4: We are here talking about what people are talking about.
1:33:17
Speaker 15: Okay.
1:33:17
Speaker 6: All right.
1:33:18
Speaker 2: No problem.
1:33:20
Speaker 5: I work for Roc Nation. So continue.
1:33:22
Speaker 4: No, we're moving on to something else. You want to
1:33:24
Speaker 4: keep going about this?
1:33:25
Speaker 5: Girl, please. That was another part of the story.
1:33:28
Speaker 4: I mean, there's more clips, but what do we want
1:33:29
Speaker 4: to do?
1:33:29
Speaker 2: You know, Cameron Mason did this like three days ago.
1:33:31
Speaker 4: I know, Envy.
1:33:31
Speaker 12: Okay.
1:33:33
Speaker 14: Continue what do y'all want to do move on alrighty
1:33:36
Speaker 14: well we were having I do have another go ahead
1:33:40
Speaker 14: you go do your thing I do have another.
1:33:43
Speaker 1: I do feel like why do we get folks all
1:33:46
Speaker 1: riled up for nothing like when we bring up the
1:33:49
Speaker 1: kanye's and the chris browns we know why kanye and
1:33:52
Speaker 1: chris not getting on that nfl stage guys can we
1:33:54
Speaker 1: stop it already yeah absolutely can we stop the jews
1:33:58
Speaker 1: do not want kanye west on the stage he has
1:34:01
Speaker 1: a history of anti-semitic comments he praised hitler we we
1:34:05
Speaker 1: act like the super bowl is not a corporate event OK,
1:34:08
Speaker 1: built around ad major advertisers and broadcast partners. Nobody is
1:34:13
Speaker 1: trying to deal with the controversy that comes with having
1:34:15
Speaker 1: Kanye West on that stage.
1:34:16
Speaker 5: He's too much of a corporate liability. It's that simple.
1:34:19
Speaker 1: And sadly, it's the same with Chris, because you know why?
1:34:22
Speaker 1: The Internet will start bringing up his history of domestic violence.
1:34:24
Speaker 1: They're going to start talking about Rihanna. Women's groups going
1:34:27
Speaker 1: to get bad. They're going to threaten to protest. Advertisers
1:34:29
Speaker 1: won't touch it. this is still a business at the
1:34:31
Speaker 1: end of the day, guys.
1:34:31
Speaker 2: Why are you explaining it? This is the same conversation.
1:34:35
Speaker 1: Lauren, act like she don't know.
1:34:36
Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
1:34:38
Speaker 14: All I was going to say is that all of
1:34:40
Speaker 14: the Super Bowl shows that we've had, I mean, not
1:34:42
Speaker 14: all of them, but a lot of them under Jay-Z
1:34:43
Speaker 14: and Roc Nation have been controversial.
1:34:45
Speaker 4: So, literally, Bad Bunny, Bad.
1:34:48
Speaker 5: Bunny wasn't... No, no, no, no, no.
1:34:50
Speaker 1: The difference between people being controversial just because they don't
1:34:52
Speaker 1: want to see a brown person on stage and people
1:34:54
Speaker 1: being upset because of what two.
1:34:57
Speaker 5: People have done that have.
1:34:59
Speaker 4: In their past.
1:34:59
Speaker 1: Cause controversies, yes. Those two individuals. are deemed corporate liabilities.
1:35:05
Speaker 1: And I know Jay-Z is always the convenient villain for people,
1:35:08
Speaker 1: but please remember, the NFL, the Super Bowl is still
1:35:12
Speaker 1: an NFL event with Apple Music attached and major broadcast
1:35:16
Speaker 1: partners who spend hundreds of millions of dollars. They don't
1:35:18
Speaker 1: want no mess.
1:35:19
Speaker 21: And Chris and Kanye have been blocked from doing other things, too. So, like,
1:35:24
Speaker 21: you know, given their past, you know, things like that.
1:35:28
Speaker 5: Our nation is the NFL's strategic....
1:35:32
Speaker 1: Entertainment advisor an ep but they have partners the nfl
1:35:35
Speaker 1: apple music like i said all the major broadcast sponsors
1:35:38
Speaker 1: they don't want that mess it's just that simple i
1:35:41
Speaker 1: would love to see chris brown up there absolutely but
1:35:44
Speaker 1: i know that y'all the women's group's gonna raise holy
1:35:46
Speaker 1: hell about it and and kanye is too many jewish
1:35:49
Speaker 1: owners of these nfl teams they're not having kanye.
1:35:51
Speaker 4: Is far-fetched but i.
1:35:53
Speaker 21: Think that i don't know you still think that chris
1:35:55
Speaker 21: can do it I think that he could do it.
1:35:58
Speaker 4: I think you would face all of those issues.
1:35:59
Speaker 14: But I think that a lot of people look at
1:36:01
Speaker 14: Jay-Z as like you being a person in that room
1:36:04
Speaker 14: is to fight for things that, yes, it would be controversial.
1:36:07
Speaker 14: But if people have moved past certain things, why can't
1:36:10
Speaker 14: we argue that other people should as well?
1:36:12
Speaker 5: You won't even go against women for Chris Brown.
1:36:15
Speaker 4: What does that look like?
1:36:16
Speaker 14: I sit on this radio show every single day and
1:36:18
Speaker 14: say that people should move on from what happened with
1:36:20
Speaker 14: Chris Brown.
1:36:21
Speaker 4: And I get attacked for it every single day.
1:36:24
Speaker 14: But what I'm saying is that people look at Jay-Z
1:36:27
Speaker 14: as like, if you're in this position, if you're going
1:36:29
Speaker 14: to fight, these are people who should be.
1:36:31
Speaker 2: Able to do it.
1:36:31
Speaker 5: And you got to pick your battles when you got balls.
1:36:33
Speaker 14: And I can understand that, but the arguments are out there.
1:36:36
Speaker 14: I don't think you can blame one person for Chris
1:36:37
Speaker 14: Brown not doing the Super Bowl. We all know what happened.
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Speaker 5: Exactly. That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Jay-Z is always the convenient villain, but the NFL... the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl is an NFL event Apple Music and a
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Speaker 1: bunch of broadcast sponsors who spend a lot of money
1:36:53
Speaker 1: and they don't want the mess yeah.
1:36:55
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Speaker 5: We complicate this for no reason.
1:37:08
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, make sure you report another whole story about him
1:37:10
Speaker 2: doing a subpoena.
1:37:11
Speaker 7: Nah.
1:37:11
Speaker 4: I got you.
1:37:12
Speaker 1: By the way, you know, when you're dealing with the
1:37:13
Speaker 1: Jewish people and then the women, there's only one other
1:37:15
Speaker 1: group that you're going to catch hell with.
1:37:18
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
1:37:19
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
1:37:21
Speaker 4: Legit.
1:37:22
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
1:37:22
Speaker 1: You got to pick your battles.
1:37:25
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:37:25
Speaker 5: All right. You got to pick your battles.
1:37:27
Speaker 2: Legit. All right.
1:37:28
Speaker 8: That's it.
1:37:28
Speaker 2: Now, when we come back, we got the mix. So
1:37:30
Speaker 2: don't move us to Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Speaker 18: Morning, everybody.
1:37:32
Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are
1:37:35
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. It's Luther Tessa Spencer for joining us today.
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Speaker 5: It's Luther Tessa Spencer, man. That's one of my OGs.
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Speaker 1: You know, when I started in radio in Charleston, South
1:37:43
Speaker 1: Carolina on Z93 Jamz, You know, she was doing her
1:37:46
Speaker 1: own morning show called The Breakfast Club. She's a huge
1:37:48
Speaker 1: personality in Charlottesville, South Carolina. She does TV and radio. And,
1:37:53
Speaker 1: you know, she was just one of those people that
1:37:54
Speaker 1: poured into me when I was first on the come up.
1:37:56
Speaker 1: And I never, ever, ever, ever, ever forget people that
1:37:59
Speaker 1: give me that type of inspiration and motivation. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: make sure you go out there and support Tessa and
1:38:03
Speaker 1: her So Sad SC endeavor. So Sad SC stands for
1:38:08
Speaker 1: Save Our Sons Forever. and daughters you know so go
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Speaker 1: check that website out sosadsc.org alright.
1:38:17
Speaker 3: Don't forget tomorrow we're gonna be out in Philly Lauren
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Speaker 3: give them the information yes we're gonna.
1:38:20
Speaker 14: Be in Philly at the one Philly HBCU week it's
1:38:25
Speaker 14: a whole week full of events but we are doing
1:38:27
Speaker 14: our live show Friday the 3rd Yes, Friday the 30th.
1:38:32
Speaker 14: You can get tickets at breakfastclubonline.com. And get tickets just
1:38:35
Speaker 14: means register. It's free to get the tickets. You literally
1:38:38
Speaker 14: just go to the website and you follow the steps
1:38:40
Speaker 14: to register and you can come watch the show live.
1:38:43
Speaker 14: In Philly, it'll be going down at the Lincoln Financial
1:38:45
Speaker 14: Field within a certain area inside of Lincoln Financial, inside
1:38:48
Speaker 14: of the link.
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Speaker 4: So, yeah, it'll be a good time.
1:38:50
Speaker 14: Celebrities popping up, some friends coming through. And we'll be
1:38:53
Speaker 14: there in all of our glory in Charlemagne and all
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Speaker 14: the yelling.
1:38:57
Speaker 5: I don't be yelling. I be motivated.
1:39:00
Speaker 4: When we out of town, you ain't going to yell.
1:39:02
Speaker 4: It's nice outside.
1:39:04
Speaker 5: Nice inside.
1:39:05
Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness. Hell no.
1:39:07
Speaker 1: This is a war zone, baby.
1:39:08
Speaker 5: You okay?
1:39:08
Speaker 4: That's what I told him.
1:39:10
Speaker 14: Don't worry about me because as long as I'm here
1:39:12
Speaker 14: with y'all, I'm going to be built for it tough.
1:39:13
Speaker 7: That's right.
1:39:14
Speaker 1: And everything you wear look bulletproof.
1:39:16
Speaker 2: Shut up. Jesus Christ.
1:39:18
Speaker 5: Right now, she got on that Batman Kevlar.
1:39:20
Speaker 2: Where you going to be this weekend?
1:39:20
Speaker 4: I'm going to be in Birmingham.
1:39:23
Speaker 5: You stupid.
1:39:24
Speaker 4: I'm going to be in Birmingham, Alabama.
1:39:26
Speaker 21: I'm going to be in Philly tomorrow, but I'm going
1:39:29
Speaker 21: to fly from Philly to go straight to Birmingham, y'all.
1:39:31
Speaker 4: I'm going to be at the Star Dome this weekend.
1:39:32
Speaker 4: We got two shows. One tomorrow. won this Halloween Saturday.
1:39:36
Speaker 4: So make sure you get your tickets.
1:39:37
Speaker 21: I still will be giving away a cash prize to
1:39:39
Speaker 21: whoever shows up in the best Halloween costume.
1:39:41
Speaker 4: So get your tickets if you haven't yet.
1:39:42
Speaker 21: JazzaLarrisOfficial.com and I will be in Virginia Beach next weekend.
1:39:46
Speaker 2: We're at.
1:39:46
Speaker 4: So do the same thing.
1:39:47
Speaker 2: We're at.
1:39:48
Speaker 21: Oh, at the Funny Bone Comedy Club. So you can
1:39:51
Speaker 21: do the same thing. Get on JessHilariousOfficial.com and get your tickets.
1:39:54
Speaker 2: All right. Now, Shalaman, you got a positive note? I do, man.
1:39:57
Speaker 1: Become so secure in yourself that other people's success genuinely
1:40:01
Speaker 1: excites you, okay?
1:40:02
Speaker 5: Your friend gets promoted. Brilliant. Someone buys their dream house.
1:40:05
Speaker 2: Love that!
1:40:06
Speaker 1: Okay, someone starts making serious money.
1:40:08
Speaker 5: Ask how they did it. Someone finds love. Be happy
1:40:10
Speaker 5: for them.
1:40:11
Speaker 1: No bitterness, no weird competition, no convincing yourself that their
1:40:14
Speaker 1: happiness somehow takes away from yours. There's something incredibly attractive
1:40:18
Speaker 1: about people who are genuinely happy to see others win.
1:40:21
Speaker 1: Be one of them. Not one of these digital heads
1:40:24
Speaker 1: on social media.
1:40:25
Speaker 5: Okay. Your time is coming. Have a great day.
1:40:28
Speaker 2: Breakfast club, bitches.
1:40:29
Speaker 5: You all finished or y'all done?
1:40:31
Speaker 15: Woke up.
1:40:31
Speaker 7: Woke up.
1:40:32
Speaker 2: Wake you up. Wake that ass up.
1:40:34
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