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The Real Estate Selling Spree · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Steph Clare
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Speaker 1: Smith's real estate empire up for sale, Gracie Piscopo takes
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Speaker 1: the stand in her ex-boyfriend's murder trial, and our highs
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Speaker 1: and lows of the week. But first, after weeks of speculation,
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Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley chose an Instagram Q & A as the
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Speaker 1: format to address rumors that she'd broken up with her
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Speaker 1: baby daddy, Lockie Waugh, Responding to a follower who asked
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Speaker 1: what was going on between the pair, Sky replied, honestly,
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Speaker 1: not much to report. We just have a little reset
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Speaker 1: break from time. It's good. And these comments came after
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Speaker 1: a lot of speculation because Lockie was staying in his parents'
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Speaker 1: house and had been posting a few rogue Instagram stories
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Speaker 1: as well. Yes, the whole sausages and sauna saga. Now,
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Speaker 1: when I read Sky Wheatley's answer, I just assumed that
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Speaker 1: they'd had a break like they've had in the past
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Speaker 1: because She's been very candid about the fact that they
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Speaker 1: take breaks and then they come back together. However, the
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Speaker 1: Daily Mail interpreted Sky's answer differently, and they ran with
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Speaker 1: the headline that Sky and Lockie had separated. Well, I
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Speaker 1: think they interpreted it how they wanted to, just for clickbait. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but it was pretty embarrassing for them because they had
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Speaker 1: to do this major backflip because they ended up papping
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Speaker 1: Sky at her activewear pop-up at Pacific Fair. And she
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Speaker 1: was there with Lockie and they were spotted cuddling and kissing.
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Speaker 1: So trying to save face, the Daily Mail wrote, Skye
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Speaker 1: Wheatley has been packing on the PDA with her partner,
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Speaker 1: Lachlan Ward, just days after announcing their separation. I'm surprised
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Speaker 1: they didn't try and frame Lachlan as like a very
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Speaker 1: supportive ex or something. Yeah. Well, did they really think
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Speaker 1: that Skye was going to announce the end of her
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Speaker 1: six-year relationship with the father of her two children with
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Speaker 1: a casual Q & A? Did they even know Skye Wheatley? Like,
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Speaker 1: she would be putting something out that was bigger than Ben-Hur. Well,
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Speaker 1: I could even imagine Lockie popping up in some kind
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Speaker 1: of YouTube tell-all of why they split that ran for
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Speaker 1: like 40 minutes with absolutely no editing involved.
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Speaker 2: This house we met, we got engaged, and we got
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Speaker 2: married in.
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Speaker 1: Steph Claire Smith and her husband Josh Miller are in
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Speaker 1: the midst of a selling spree. Two of their multi-million
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Speaker 1: dollar properties are up for sale just weeks after the
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Speaker 1: fitness entrepreneur was named on the AFR's Young Rich List.
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Speaker 1: It's been a big month for Steph Clare Smith. Last week,
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Speaker 1: she announced that she was pregnant with her second child,
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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks before that, she revealed she'd been
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Speaker 1: diagnosed with ADHD. Two weeks before that, she announced she
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Speaker 1: had a vibrator up her bum, which went everywhere in
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Speaker 1: the press. So I don't know if that was part
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Speaker 1: of your rap, Kate. No, that wasn't. But we have
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Speaker 1: spoken about it a little bit on the podcast. Then
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Speaker 1: at the start of November, which is what I was
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Speaker 1: going to say, she was ranked number 97 on the
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Speaker 1: Australian Financial Review's Young Rich list with a net worth
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Speaker 1: of $ 42 million. $ 42 million. Now, she's back in the
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Speaker 1: news again because her husband, Josh, has announced that he's
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Speaker 1: selling his family's Murray River property. Plus, super sleuths have
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Speaker 1: uncovered plans that they're also selling their $ 7 million mansion
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Speaker 1: that they moved into just two years ago. When it
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Speaker 1: comes to the family property, it's a deliberate advertising campaign
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Speaker 1: that Josh is heavily involved in. So he's been interviewed
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Speaker 1: by realestate.com and also the Australian Financial Review about the
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Speaker 1: listing It reminded me a lot of when Mitch Orville
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Speaker 1: and Chloe Zepp were selling their house, just how much
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Speaker 1: publicity this is getting. Yeah, they're very keen to get
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Speaker 1: the messaging out there. And I was shocked when I
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Speaker 1: found out that they were selling the property because Steph
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Speaker 1: has spoken in length about how special it is to her.
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Speaker 1: It's where she first met Josh. It's where they got
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Speaker 1: engaged and also got married. And in the interview, Josh said,
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Speaker 1: it's very sentimental outside of just being a beautiful property.
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Speaker 1: It holds almost all my memories from being a little
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Speaker 1: boy growing up riding dirt bikes, And I'm now 33,
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Speaker 1: so it's had a massive part in my life. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's funny because originally when Steph started referring to this
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Speaker 1: family property, I thought it was some regular shack down
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Speaker 1: at the Murray River, but this is far from that. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I had a good time looking at the photos and
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Speaker 1: videos of this property. So it's located on the Victorian
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Speaker 1: and New South Wales border at Berry, which is around
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Speaker 1: a three-hour drive from Melbourne, or if you're rich, a
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Speaker 1: 45-minute chopper ride. And if the chopper access didn't give
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Speaker 1: it away... The fact this property has a name just
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Speaker 1: demonstrates how fancy it is. It's called the Clarendon Eye.
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Speaker 1: Wait a sec. So does it have a chopper pad
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Speaker 1: where you can land on? Well, it must because they
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Speaker 1: kept talking about this chopper access. I would love to
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Speaker 1: run you through some of the features of this property.
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Speaker 1: So it's a 16 hectare property and has seven bedrooms
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Speaker 1: and five bathrooms. So the main homestead was built from
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Speaker 1: two existing dwellings which were shipped to the property to
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Speaker 1: create one large home. Sorry? Yeah, so one of the
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Speaker 1: buildings was a weatherboard home and the other was the
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Speaker 1: former Mornington Art Gallery. Sorry, that is actually crazy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and it also has its own golf course, a 22-metre
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Speaker 1: swimming pool, spa, tennis court, Olympic built-in trampoline, cinema, Ornamental
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Speaker 1: turquoise lake, 10-car garage and a machinery shed. It also
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Speaker 1: has 35 established palm trees. What the fuck? Like this
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Speaker 1: is an absolute mansion. Can you imagine rocking up to
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Speaker 1: this and not realising how big it actually is? Like
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Speaker 1: you've just come along for a stay at Josh's house. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I would love to stay at the place. So it's
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Speaker 1: our golf course.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: What does Josh's parents do? Well, I did some digging
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Speaker 1: because I thought the exact same thing. And his dad, Ken,
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Speaker 1: is the owner of a shop fitting company, which seems
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Speaker 1: pretty large. They've got 50 employees. Josh actually used to
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Speaker 1: work for him. But it doesn't seem from the outside
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Speaker 1: like they've come from a lot of money. So Ken
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Speaker 1: dropped out of high school, I think in year eight,
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Speaker 1: and he was just really interested in maintaining golf courses.
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Speaker 1: So when he bought this property back in 2006, he
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Speaker 1: started to build his own golf course and it's just
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Speaker 1: gone from there. But apparently, it's a very high quality
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Speaker 1: golf course. Not that I know a lot about it. No,
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's some sort of little crappy putting
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Speaker 1: greenies put in there. No. Now, it has been listed
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Speaker 1: on realestate.com for $ 8 to $ 8. 8 million. But one thing
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Speaker 1: that's confused me about this whole thing is who actually
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Speaker 1: owns the property? Because The Australian Financial Review is reporting
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Speaker 1: that Josh's dad, Ken, does. And they said that he
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Speaker 1: purchased it nearly 20 years ago in 2006. However, when
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Speaker 1: I was doing some digging, according to Domain, it was
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Speaker 1: last sold in 2017 for just $ 130, 000.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Well, it sold for $ 870, 000 back in 2006 when Ken
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Speaker 1: first purchased it. Well, sometimes if you own a property
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Speaker 1: and you want to give it to your children or something,
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Speaker 1: you can sell it for a much reduced price. Maybe
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Speaker 1: this is what's happened or maybe for business reasons, the
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Speaker 1: property has been passed on to somebody else. Well, it's
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Speaker 1: strange because Steph and Josh have been publicly stating that
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Speaker 1: they own the property. So After their wedding, there was
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Speaker 1: a lot of interest in the property because it was
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Speaker 1: the backdrop of this amazing influencer wedding. And Josh took
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Speaker 1: on the role of leading renovations on the property. He
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Speaker 1: also advertised it as a property that you could rent
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Speaker 1: out for corporate events or, I mean, I suppose if
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Speaker 1: you've got a lot of money, you could also stay
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Speaker 1: in it. And the couple even did a deal with
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Speaker 1: a blind company and they were plastered all over their
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Speaker 1: website as the owners of the property. Let's throw to
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Speaker 1: a little bit of the video. Hi, I'm Steph. This
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Speaker 1: is Harvey.
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Speaker 2: And I'm Josh, and welcome to our home, Clarida Mare.
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Speaker 2: So we're currently in northern Victoria. We're about 40 minutes
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Speaker 2: north of Shepparton on the Murray River. Obviously, we're surrounded
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Speaker 2: by the bush, and we're actually neighbouring the Palmer State Forest.
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Speaker 2: So it was really important to bring the wow element
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Speaker 2: of outside inside.
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Speaker 1: Well, to add further intrigue to this story, as you
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Speaker 1: mentioned at the start, Kate, Super Sleeves have spotted that
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Speaker 1: Steph and Josh's Brighton East Mansion is set to be
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Speaker 1: listed too. So the couple only purchased the resort style
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Speaker 1: home back in late 2021. And at the time they
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Speaker 1: paid $ 7 million for the property. So they previously lived
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Speaker 1: in the area and sold their former home for $ 3. 4
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Speaker 1: million in June 2021. They made just under a million
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Speaker 1: dollars from when they bought it in 2019. What's really
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Speaker 1: fascinating is that Josh has been front and center promoting
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Speaker 1: the sale of his family property. Yet we haven't heard
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Speaker 1: Josh or Steph share any news about the sale of
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Speaker 1: this house. It was Super Sleuths, as we said, that
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Speaker 1: found this listing by White Fox Real Estate. Now, when
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Speaker 1: I saw White Fox Real Estate, I was like, is
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Speaker 1: that even a real real estate company? Is that or
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Speaker 1: is that something to do with the brand? It's definitely
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Speaker 1: not related to the clothing brand. White Fox Real Estate
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Speaker 1: have been around for quite a while. Oh, God, I
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Speaker 1: have never heard of them. So I had to go
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Speaker 1: check out their page to make sure it was legit.
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Speaker 1: And the real estate company and also the real estate agent,
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Speaker 1: Lana Samuels, shared a photo outside the property with the caption,
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Speaker 1: The deal, the palms by Plessa Perkins and Inform coming soon.
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Speaker 1: And they also shared a reel showing off the amazing property. God,
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Speaker 1: it's nice. Why do you think they're selling both of
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Speaker 1: the properties? It seems interesting timing to have them go
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Speaker 1: on the market around the same time. And also just
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Speaker 1: a week after Steph announced her pregnancy with her second child,
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Speaker 1: I wonder if they waited because if both of the
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Speaker 1: properties had gone on the market, people might've thought that
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Speaker 1: Steph and Josh had broken up, which they clearly haven't. Well,
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Speaker 1: there was some speculation that they might've broken up around
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Speaker 1: the time that Steph revealed she had a big announcement
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Speaker 1: to make on her podcast. I mean, that turned out
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Speaker 1: to be Steph's ADHD diagnosis and obviously the pair are
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Speaker 1: very happy together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, that clearly isn't the reason. I think it may
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Speaker 1: have something to do with Steph's wealth. So as we
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Speaker 1: touched upon, she was named in the Young Rich List.
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Speaker 1: She has $ 42 million to her name. That has gone
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Speaker 1: up a lot since she last featured on it. So
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that maybe they're wanting to expand their actual
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Speaker 1: living quarters in Melbourne rather than living quarters. Like they're
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Speaker 1: wanting to upgrade from the $ 7 million property. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it makes sense if they're having another baby. I assume
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Speaker 1: there would be more than enough space for a second
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Speaker 1: baby in a $ 7 million property. But why not actually go,
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Speaker 1: fuck it, we're going to buy a bigger place. We're
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Speaker 1: doing well. Yeah, maybe the second baby needs its own wing. Maybe.
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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing is that a lot of the
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Speaker 1: time when people start selling off properties, it actually indicates
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Speaker 1: that they're not doing as well financially, which is why
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Speaker 1: it's so interesting because Steph is doing better than ever. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but why not keep the family property that's really sentimental?
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Speaker 1: So Josh was quoted in the article saying that after
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Speaker 1: developing the compound into what it is today with his
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Speaker 1: father and brother, it was time for his family to
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Speaker 1: move on to another project and pass the private oasis
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Speaker 1: on to another family. I would be keeping it. Well,
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Speaker 1: doesn't Steph Claire Smith's family have a property nearby? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so that's the interesting thing. The town only has 160
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Speaker 1: people in it and Steph Claire Smith's family owned a
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Speaker 1: property there and then Josh's family had one as well.
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Speaker 1: But do they still have it? Well, I thought they did,
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Speaker 1: but Steph has been staying more at Josh's family's house because,
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously... It's got to go, of course, Olympic-sized pool,
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Speaker 1: a trampoline, so... Yeah, so I would be too. But
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Speaker 1: I did notice that the family are celebrating Christmas at
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Speaker 1: the property this year, so it must be a final farewell.
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Speaker 1: You follow Gracie Piscopo?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 4: Gracie is one of the great many social media stars
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Speaker 4: who are wildly popular but to whom normal people are
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Speaker 4: completely oblivious. The 26-year-old is considered... Tammy Hembra 2.0 because
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Speaker 4: she has also modelled for the Kardashians.
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Speaker 1: Perth influencer Gracie Piscopo has taken the stand in the
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Speaker 1: murder trial of her ex-boyfriend Andre Ribello. Ribello is accused
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Speaker 1: of murdering his mother to access her life insurance policy
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Speaker 1: in a bid to alleviate his debt and maintain a
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Speaker 1: glamorous lifestyle. Ribello denies killing his mother but has admitted
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Speaker 1: to forging documents in order to obtain the $ 500, 000 life
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Speaker 1: insurance policy which he took out in her name days
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Speaker 1: before her death. His defense team claims he took out
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Speaker 1: the policies at his mom's request. Now, there has been
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Speaker 1: a lot of speculation over whether Gracie would take the stand.
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Speaker 1: This week, she appeared as the final witness in the trial.
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Speaker 1: And we do want to reiterate that Gracie has not
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Speaker 1: been accused of any wrongdoing. In terms of reporting on
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Speaker 1: this story, we are being really careful because we only
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Speaker 1: want to discuss the facts today and not delve into
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Speaker 1: our own personal opinions and hearsay because This is a
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Speaker 1: matter that is still in front of the courts and
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Speaker 1: we don't want to say anything that could prejudice this case. Well,
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Speaker 1: while Gracie isn't under investigation for any wrongdoing, her name
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Speaker 1: has been all over this case. Yeah, and it's easy
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Speaker 1: to see why. She is an influencer with over a
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Speaker 1: million followers. It adds a lot of intrigue or even
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Speaker 1: more intrigue to this case. And it was only two
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Speaker 1: weeks ago that her financial status was under the microscope.
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Speaker 1: So not only was her salary revealed, but the court
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Speaker 1: also heard that both she and Andre were living off
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Speaker 1: borrowed money and applying for Centrelink benefits. So in court proceedings,
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Speaker 1: it was revealed that Gracie made $ 141, 000 in 2019 alone.
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Speaker 1: and $ 219, 000 the following year. However, despite her high salary,
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Speaker 1: it was revealed that she was in debt with multiple
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Speaker 1: credit cards, personal loans, and afterpay accounts. And a few
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Speaker 1: months before Colleen's death, Gracie and Andre Ribello both applied
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Speaker 1: for the early release of their superannuation under the COVID-19
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Speaker 1: hardship rules. And Gracie also applied for Centrelink JobSeeker payments.
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Speaker 1: And just to point out, a lot of people did
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Speaker 1: this during COVID. Yeah, a lot of people were, but
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Speaker 1: it's quite clear that they were in financial hardship because
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Speaker 1: around that time, Gracie also made eight loan applications and
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Speaker 1: multiple credit card applications. Just eight months before Andre was arrested,
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Speaker 1: he also applied for bankruptcy with just $ 50 cash and
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Speaker 1: 800 worth of assets to his name. Now, when Gracie
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Speaker 1: appeared in court, she was questioned about the day of
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Speaker 1: Colleen's death. So at this time, she and Andre had
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Speaker 1: been in a relationship for eight years and were living
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Speaker 1: together with their son. So Gracie told the court it
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Speaker 1: was just like any regular weekday. She said Andre had
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Speaker 1: left that morning to run errands, which included dropping off
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Speaker 1: some clothes at his mum's house for his younger brother. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is in contrast to what Gracie told the police
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Speaker 1: in 2020. When interviewed originally, she told them that she
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Speaker 1: and Andre hadn't left their home on the day of
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Speaker 1: his mother's death. Prosecutors quizzed Gracie about why her story
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Speaker 1: had changed and she told them, I didn't think it
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Speaker 1: was important. And when pushed further by prosecutors, she responded,
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Speaker 1: it was scary and I just told them what I
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Speaker 1: knew and what I could remember. Prosecutors then accused Gracie
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Speaker 1: of trying to protect Andre to which she responded, I'm
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Speaker 1: telling the truth the best I can. I came to
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Speaker 1: court because I have been spoken about the entirety of
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Speaker 1: the trial and I want to have my voice. Everything
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Speaker 1: I do is for my son. I'm just following my
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Speaker 1: heart and doing the right thing. Right now, I'm just
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Speaker 1: telling the truth to help everyone. And I can understand
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Speaker 1: where she's coming from because her face has been splashed
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Speaker 1: all over this case, even though she is not the
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Speaker 1: one on trial. Now, on Monday, the court was shown
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Speaker 1: phone records which revealed Gracie had tried to call Andre
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Speaker 1: more than a dozen times between 11.10am and 11.35am on
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Speaker 1: the morning of his mother's death. She'd also sent him
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Speaker 1: several text messages asking him to answer the phone and
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Speaker 1: asking him where he was. So messages range from answer
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Speaker 1: your fucking phone to where are you? And oh my God,
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Speaker 1: I swear to God, Andre, do you have a phone?
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Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? Answer for fuck's sake. I'm
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Speaker 1: fuming at you. I'm so angry. Now, prosecutors allege that
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Speaker 1: Andre was in the process of killing his mom while
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Speaker 1: Gracie was attempting to get a hold of him. This
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Speaker 1: is something that Andre denies. Now, when asked about these messages,
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Speaker 1: Gracie explained that she was really frustrated with her boyfriend
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Speaker 1: at the time because he had a habit of keeping
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Speaker 1: his phone on silent and she thought he was coming
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Speaker 1: home to see her cousin. Now, he did end up
15:38
Speaker 1: getting home around lunchtime while her cousin was still there
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Speaker 1: and she said there wasn't anything unusual about him and
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Speaker 1: confirmed he had no injuries. Now, part of the state's
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Speaker 1: case against Andre Ribello has been attempting to build up
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Speaker 1: a narrative that he was in debt. and being hounded
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Speaker 1: by collection agencies. So they are alleging he was desperately
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Speaker 1: trying to maintain, and I quote, a plastic fantastic lifestyle.
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Speaker 1: So a lot of questions were aimed at Gracie about
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Speaker 1: her finances. Now, I found this particularly interesting from an
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Speaker 1: influencer perspective because normally influencers don't share how much they're earning,
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Speaker 1: but obviously in this situation, she had to. So she
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Speaker 1: told the court she could earn up to $ 8, 000 in
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Speaker 1: Instagram posts through her brand collaborations And as much as
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Speaker 1: $ 5, 000 for a YouTube video promotion, she also revealed one
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Speaker 1: of her brand deals earned her $ 80, 000 over 12 months.
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Speaker 1: It was also revealed in court that Andre Ribello was
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Speaker 1: working as Gracie's assistant and he was earning around $ 20, 000
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Speaker 1: and also was a stay-at-home dad. So this is in
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Speaker 1: stark contrast to the figures that Gracie was earning. Now,
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Speaker 1: Gracie was also asked about a conversation she allegedly had
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Speaker 1: with Andre in the week surrounding his mother's death. prosecutors
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Speaker 1: alleged that Andre told Gracie he was going to get
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Speaker 1: $ 500, 000 in cryptocurrency. However, Gracie said that she couldn't recall
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Speaker 1: the conversation. However, when asked if Andre had told her
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Speaker 1: he was finally going to make a big sum of
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Speaker 1: money before his mom died, Gracie replied, I guess. Now
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Speaker 1: this court case is continuing and we will keep you
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Speaker 1: up to date with any relevant findings that come out.
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Speaker 1: Now let's get into our highs and lows of the week. Amy,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to kick things off. My low of the
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Speaker 1: week is my postpartum hair loss. I thought I had
17:21
Speaker 1: missed it. I was getting really cocky. I'm like, oh,
17:24
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen to me. I've always had
17:26
Speaker 1: thin shit hair. So I was like, maybe I'm in luck.
17:29
Speaker 1: Maybe my scalp is going to hold onto this extra
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Speaker 1: thicker hair. It was looking shiny. I'd even been getting
17:35
Speaker 1: compliments about it, which is very unusual for my hair.
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Speaker 2: No, no.
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Speaker 1: Literally at the four and a half month mark, it
17:42
Speaker 1: started dropping out. So how does it come out? Is
17:43
Speaker 1: it just like when you brush your hair, just heaps
17:45
Speaker 1: of extra hairs come out or does it actually just
17:47
Speaker 1: like fall out? So what happens is you suddenly start
17:50
Speaker 1: noticing a lot more hair coming out in the shower.
17:54
Speaker 1: And then, so before when I was pregnant and postpartum
17:57
Speaker 1: for up to that four month period, I'd put a
17:59
Speaker 1: hair tie on my hair and no hair would come off.
18:01
Speaker 1: And literally there was so much hair attached to my
18:04
Speaker 1: hair ties. I've got them hanging in the shower. They
18:06
Speaker 1: look so disgusting. our drains are starting to get blocked up.
18:09
Speaker 1: And it just comes out and like, and I'm like,
18:12
Speaker 1: I am going to be bald. I will have no
18:14
Speaker 1: hair left. So I think I'm actually going to have
18:16
Speaker 1: to get the mom bob. And I've always judged people
18:19
Speaker 1: for doing that. I'm like, why would you cut your
18:21
Speaker 1: beautiful hair off? But now I get it. Don't cut
18:23
Speaker 1: it because I can't stand the whinging associated with it.
18:26
Speaker 1: I think just hold on. Like that's going to pass
18:29
Speaker 1: your hair. But what's the point? It will come back. Yeah,
18:31
Speaker 1: it will come back. It's going to, it's taken me
18:32
Speaker 1: years to grow it to this length. I'd leave it
18:35
Speaker 1: if I were you. Now I'll get into my high
18:37
Speaker 1: of the week and it's quite a sad one because
18:39
Speaker 1: yesterday I was having a bit of a tough day.
18:41
Speaker 1: Rhys was at work. He was working late. So I'd
18:43
Speaker 1: been home with Jack all day and night by myself.
18:46
Speaker 1: And it was a really challenging day. Jack did not
18:48
Speaker 1: want to go to sleep. He's just started working out
18:51
Speaker 1: how to roll and he's been waking himself up. So
18:54
Speaker 1: It was around eight o'clock and I couldn't get him
18:56
Speaker 1: to go to sleep. And it took about 40 minutes.
18:58
Speaker 1: And when I finally did, I came out and the
19:00
Speaker 1: dinner I'd put in the oven, which was baked potatoes,
19:03
Speaker 1: they'd burnt. They were actually absolutely a crisp. And I
19:06
Speaker 1: actually felt like crying. Then you text me saying that
19:09
Speaker 1: Sarah's day's birth vlog has come out. And I was like,
19:11
Speaker 1: my day has just turned around completely. So I scraped
19:14
Speaker 1: off the burnt potatoes, ate them in front of the
19:17
Speaker 1: vlog and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a very
19:19
Speaker 1: good vlog, wasn't it? I mean, Sarah's day, she does deliver,
19:23
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to a birth log. And it
19:25
Speaker 1: was quite different to her other birth logs because she
19:28
Speaker 1: spent a lot of her time laboring at home as
19:30
Speaker 1: opposed to at the hospital. My mom was asking me, oh,
19:33
Speaker 1: should I watch it? And I said, well, 90% of
19:35
Speaker 1: it is actually just her screaming out in pain. Like
19:38
Speaker 1: it was the biggest advertisement to have a cesarean in
19:40
Speaker 1: my mind. We are going to dive a little bit
19:43
Speaker 1: deeper into that in the subs episode, a bit more
19:46
Speaker 1: of an unfiltered space where we can share what we
19:48
Speaker 1: really thought about it.
19:49
Speaker 3: It was good.
19:49
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it though. I enjoyed it. Yeah. What about you, Amy?
19:53
Speaker 1: What is your high for the week? Well, my high
19:55
Speaker 1: of the week was the social media coverage that has
19:58
Speaker 1: followed the Jake Paul and Mike Tyson fight. I mean, admittedly,
20:02
Speaker 1: I didn't actually watch the fight on Netflix, but I
20:05
Speaker 1: have watched the lead up episodes to it. And Mike
20:08
Speaker 1: Tyson is fucking hilarious, whether he means to be or
20:12
Speaker 1: doesn't mean to be like, there's been so many clips
20:14
Speaker 1: of him that have gone viral. And my favorite one
20:17
Speaker 1: so far was a young child who interviewed Mike in
20:21
Speaker 1: the lead up to the fight. Let's throw to the clip.
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Speaker 5: In your return to the ring for this fight, you
20:27
Speaker 5: are setting a monumental opportunity for kids my age to
20:29
Speaker 5: see the legend Mike Tyson in the ring for the
20:33
Speaker 5: first time. So after such a successful career, what type
20:35
Speaker 5: of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's
20:38
Speaker 5: all said and done?
20:39
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I don't believe in the word legacy.
20:41
Speaker 3: I think that's another word for ego. Legacy doesn't mean nothing.
20:45
Speaker 3: That's just some word everybody grabbed onto. Someone said that
20:49
Speaker 3: word and everyone grabbed onto the word, so now it's
20:51
Speaker 3: used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me.
20:54
Speaker 3: I'm just passing through. I'm going to die, and it's
20:56
Speaker 3: going to be over. Who cares about a legacy after that?
21:01
Speaker 3: What a big ego. So I'm going to die. I
21:03
Speaker 3: want people to think that I'm this. I'm great. No,
21:05
Speaker 3: we're nothing. We're just dead. We're dust. We're absolutely nothing.
21:11
Speaker 3: Our legacy is nothing.
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Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much for sharing that. That is
21:15
Speaker 5: something that I have not heard before someone say that
21:18
Speaker 5: as an answer.
21:19
Speaker 3: Can you really imagine somebody saying, I want my legacy
21:21
Speaker 3: to be this way? You're dead.
21:24
Speaker 2: Why do you want to play?
21:25
Speaker 3: Do you think somebody really wants to think about you?
21:28
Speaker 3: What's the adaption? I want people to think about me
21:31
Speaker 3: when I'm gone. Who the fuck cares about me when
21:33
Speaker 3: I'm gone? My kids, maybe. My grandkids.
21:36
Speaker 4: Who the fuck cares?
21:40
Speaker 1: She actually recovered so well because you stopped at Kate.
21:43
Speaker 1: She goes on to say like, oh, thank you. I've
21:45
Speaker 1: actually never really thought of that before, but thank you
21:47
Speaker 1: so much for sharing that with us. That reminds me.
21:50
Speaker 1: When I was working at the 36ers, we always used
21:52
Speaker 1: to get these kid journalists wanting to interview players. That
21:55
Speaker 1: is absolutely hilarious because normally you would just play along and, oh, hi,
22:00
Speaker 1: little kid. But, oh, that is so funny. I've actually
22:02
Speaker 1: got tears in my eyes. It actually reminds me a
22:04
Speaker 1: little bit of when I was working at Seven. We
22:06
Speaker 1: went out to interview this poor lady who'd lost her
22:09
Speaker 1: house It had burnt down overnight. And she said in
22:13
Speaker 1: this grab, she goes, it was just burnt to a crisp.
22:16
Speaker 1: And it was so terrible because I included that grab
22:19
Speaker 1: in the story. And while it was not funny that
22:21
Speaker 1: her house burnt down, sometimes you have to make light
22:24
Speaker 1: of things in those negative situations. And this editor and
22:26
Speaker 1: I were in the booth and he kept playing that
22:28
Speaker 1: same grab over and over and over again. And we
22:32
Speaker 1: were just absolutely cracking it. Just the evil media overload.
22:36
Speaker 1: What is your low of the week? My low of
22:39
Speaker 1: the week is that over the weekend I made an
22:42
Speaker 1: impulse purchase of a whole load of Christmas lights for
22:46
Speaker 1: the house. Why is that your low? I'm getting to it, Kate.
22:48
Speaker 1: My low is that they haven't arrived and they said
22:50
Speaker 1: they were going to arrive within three days. I want
22:53
Speaker 1: the Christmas lights up on the house now. Like I
22:55
Speaker 1: know it's only November, but it seems like everyone is
22:58
Speaker 1: celebrating earlier and earlier this year. And I'm getting freaked
23:01
Speaker 1: out that all my decorations aren't up yet. But when
23:03
Speaker 1: I arrived, there were three little reindeers in the hallway.
23:06
Speaker 1: That is just one of the packages that's arrived. Oh,
23:08
Speaker 1: so only ones arrived, but not the main ones. So
23:10
Speaker 1: the one I really want to arrive is I've got
23:13
Speaker 1: this Santa who he's on a sleigh and there's I
23:16
Speaker 1: think there's four reindeers and he looks like he's sort
23:17
Speaker 1: of like whipping them along. I see them everywhere around
23:20
Speaker 1: in all of the fancy neighbourhoods, so I decided I'm
23:23
Speaker 1: going to bring a bit of class to my neighbourhood
23:25
Speaker 1: and have one of these up on the house. I'm
23:26
Speaker 1: so jealous. I really want one of those, but I'm
23:28
Speaker 1: trying to be good this year and not buy too
23:30
Speaker 1: many Christmas decorations. They were on sale as part of
23:33
Speaker 1: the Black Friday sale, so that was my excuse for
23:35
Speaker 1: purchasing them. Yeah, I've invested too much money into Jack's
23:38
Speaker 1: December 1st box. Well, I keep blaming Jack as well.
23:40
Speaker 1: I'm like, Dale, I think Jack would like to see
23:42
Speaker 1: the house all lit up for Christmas.
23:44
Speaker 4: He would.
23:44
Speaker 1: He very much would.
23:45
Speaker 2: Okay.
23:46
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's all we've got time for today.
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