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Is This The Year Saints Draft QB In First Round? | New Orleans Linked To Cam Ward, Jaxson Dart · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: In the last twenty four hours, not one but two
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks projected to be among the top in this upcoming
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  Speaker 1: draft have been linked to the New Orleans Saints. Cam
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  Speaker 1: Ward was in New Orleans for the Manning Awards ceremony,
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  Speaker 1: made some comments that have gotten a lot of attention.
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  Speaker 1: And then on two that was Monday night. On Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: mel Kiper puts out his mock draft and he has
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart of Ole, miss going to the Saints number nine. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll we'll analyze. Let's just go chronologically. Cam Ward
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  Speaker 1: Monday in New Orleans Manning Awards ceremony, He's asked about
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  Speaker 1: his visit with the New Orleans Saints at the combine.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what he says.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great meeting, especially you know, if you get
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  Speaker 2: a chance to go play with a super Bowl coach
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  Speaker 2: like coach Moore, he knows how to dollar to playbook.
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  Speaker 2: But I just think the biggest thing that I took
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  Speaker 2: away from that meeting is that you just got to
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  Speaker 2: be prepared at all times. Whether you go in as
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  Speaker 2: a starter or you go in as a backup, you
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  Speaker 2: never know never's gonna be caught. But there's a great
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  Speaker 2: meeting with them. You know, the Saints. They were one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite teams growing up when I was little.
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  Speaker 2: I love watching Drew Brees and Colston out there, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, it be it'll be a dream mine to
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  Speaker 2: play for them, if you know, if I get a
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  Speaker 2: chance someday. But that's not really my main focus right now.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it'd be a dream to play for them someday,
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  Speaker 1: it's not my focus. Says all the right things, and
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  Speaker 1: he's right to say. Cam Ward was great this season,
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  Speaker 1: set an ACC record forty three hundred yards, thirty nine
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  Speaker 1: passing touchdowns, the first time an ACC quarterback ever led
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  Speaker 1: the FBS and passing touchdowns. So great season. Great player.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people projected Camboard to go number one overall.
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  Speaker 1: Okay for the Saints. Let's be honest, cam Ward's not
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  Speaker 1: falling to nine. So if the Saints were gonna draft him,
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  Speaker 1: Let's say, hypothetically you have to trade up to the
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  Speaker 1: number one pick. There's a couple of questions you got
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  Speaker 1: to answer. Number one is what would you have to
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  Speaker 1: trade to get there. Thankfully, we don't have to look
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  Speaker 1: into too far distant past to find an example of
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  Speaker 1: what it would take to go from nine to one,
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  Speaker 1: because Carolina did it. Two years ago. Carolina had the
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  Speaker 1: ninth pick. They traded up to the first pick. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what Carolina gave Chicago DJ Moore Pro Bowl Wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: legit number one. DJ Moore their twenty twenty three first
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  Speaker 1: round or the ninth overall pick. They're twenty two, twenty
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  Speaker 1: three second rounder, they're twenty twenty four first rounder, and
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  Speaker 1: they're twenty twenty five second rounder. Y'all. That's that's the rate,
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  Speaker 1: right that was two years ago. There's the rate you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do a pick swap this year, give up this
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  Speaker 1: year's two, next year's one, the following year's two, and
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  Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl player, you got the stomach to do
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  Speaker 1: that to draft him Ward. Now I'd ask it to
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  Speaker 1: you this way, would you do that deal for Joe Burrow?
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  Speaker 1: Would you would you do that deal for Joe Burrow?
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  Speaker 1: Would you give up? Would you do a pick swap
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  Speaker 1: in the first round, a two, the next year's one
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  Speaker 1: and the following year's two and a player. Of course
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  Speaker 1: you would. Of course you would because you have an
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  Speaker 1: elite franchise quarterback for the next decade plus. Would you
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  Speaker 1: do that deal for Bryce Young? And the answer, knowing
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  Speaker 1: what you know now is unequivocally not. So it's all
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  Speaker 1: about risk mitigation. If the Panthers could go back and
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  Speaker 1: undo that deal, they would absolutely undo that deal. They
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  Speaker 1: do it for CJ. Stroud, not for Bryce Young, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe Bryce Young ends up being good, but file that away.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta trust your scouting. But the bottom line is,
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  Speaker 1: even if you even if you did a deal like
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  Speaker 1: that to go up to one to take cam Ward,
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  Speaker 1: you have forfeited so much draft capital and we already
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  Speaker 1: know your cap situation is a mess, whereby you wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: even have the ability to build a competent roster around
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  Speaker 1: that player. If you moved up to take him at one.
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  Speaker 1: I am very much in favor of drafting quarterbacks. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna come across his hippocritical I've told you that
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  Speaker 1: you gotta draft quarterbacks, gotta drive every year til you
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  Speaker 1: hit unless you're willing to take one in round one.
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  Speaker 1: But trading up from nine to one, the price is
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  Speaker 1: too steep for that amount of risk because you don't
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  Speaker 1: have a roster built around owned that player yet to
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  Speaker 1: where what you need is at young quarterback. If you
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  Speaker 1: had the roster and you needed the quarterback, if you
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  Speaker 1: were Minnesota you got the roster. You don't have the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense. You're San Francisco, you got the roster.
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  Speaker 1: You don't before Party, right, they hit on Party and
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  Speaker 1: they were lucky. But you're saying, you know you're getting
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  Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, Jimmy g and you're thinking, man,
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  Speaker 1: and if we would if we went up to one
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  Speaker 1: and got an elite quarterback to pair with all this talent,
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  Speaker 1: that makes sense. New Orleans. You got one of the
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  Speaker 1: worst rosters in the NFL to begin with, and now
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to go trade up to number one,
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  Speaker 1: you're depleting your draft capital and your cap situation. Is terrible,
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  Speaker 1: and your roster's bad. It just doesn't make a look
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  Speaker 1: of sense. So no, I can't see any reason where
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  Speaker 1: that would make sense to trade up for a player
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  Speaker 1: like Cam Woard or anybody in this draft. Now, we
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the other bit of news. That news the opinion
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  Speaker 1: that's getting a lot of Attentionion mel Kiper in his
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  Speaker 1: latest mock draft has the Saints at number nine, taking
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart and he notes it's a surprise pick and
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  Speaker 1: talks about Derek Carr's restructured contract and he's there for
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  Speaker 1: another year. But what happens after that makes the case
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  Speaker 1: that this could be the right time. As a matter
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  Speaker 1: of fact, here was mel Kiper on get up talking
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  Speaker 1: about his pick of Dart to the Saints.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody's talking me out of this one, Granny. Jackson Dart
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  Speaker 3: locked into the Saints at nine. For me right now,
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  Speaker 3: I think when you look at Jackson Dart, the improvement
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  Speaker 3: complete percentage up every year. Okay, interceptions down, and he
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  Speaker 3: maintained that at five six touchdowns up every year. Jackson
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  Speaker 3: Dart with his legs fifteen hundred rushing yards the last
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  Speaker 3: three years, eight rushing touchdowns two years ago. That's the
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  Speaker 3: underrated part of Jackson Dart's game. This is an NFC
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  Speaker 3: now adding Jaden and Caleb, Michael Pennox junior, the division
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  Speaker 3: with Pennix junior and two number ones overall, Baker and
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  Speaker 3: Bryce Young. And now you get Jackson Dart. You got
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  Speaker 3: to keep up with the division, Greene the Saints. You
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  Speaker 3: get a new coach, new quarterback coming in together.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so Kuiper gushing about Jackson Dart. Now I'm curious
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  Speaker 1: what changed from January the twenty second to today? What
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  Speaker 1: are we talking about? Six weeks? The football season's been over.
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart's long college career had been over already. What
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  Speaker 1: changed from January twenty second to today? Why January twenty second?
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  Speaker 1: Because mel Kiper put out a mock draft on January
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  Speaker 1: twenty second. Not only did he not have Jackson Dart
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  Speaker 1: at the top ten, he didn't have Jackson Dart in
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  Speaker 1: the first round. So you mean to tell me you
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  Speaker 1: went to the Pajama Olympics and watch Jackson Dart. Now
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's the top ten pick. I'll
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  Speaker 1: buy it, not a lick. I'm okay drafting Jackson Dart.
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  Speaker 1: You want to take you want to use a two
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  Speaker 1: or a three on Jackson Dart. Okay, not at nine overall.
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  Speaker 1: How in the world, mel Kiper do you get to
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  Speaker 1: that conclusion where you go from a guy being outside
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  Speaker 1: of round one a month ago, not at the start
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  Speaker 1: of his This isn't a Joe Burrow at the start
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  Speaker 1: of the twenty nineteen season where he's a day three
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  Speaker 1: piin boom, hits the parabolic run up, and then now
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  Speaker 1: he's the first pick. And ain't that this is last
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  Speaker 1: month right or six weeks ago? Just three questions? Number one,
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  Speaker 1: do you think Dart's a top ten pick? He was
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  Speaker 1: productive in Lane Kiffin's offense, and Lane Kiffins coached a
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  Speaker 1: lot of good quarterbacks to productive seasons. Blake Simms, Jake
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  Speaker 1: Kocher won a national championship with Lane Kiffin, Collin plays,
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts as a freshman, Matt Barkley at USC Now
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, He's had good ones, no doubt, but again,
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  Speaker 1: massive jump. I don't know what the Saints board looks like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll have Jackson Dart as a top
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  Speaker 1: ten pick. Number two is where do the Saints value
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart? They did interview Dart at the Senior Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: So they are certainly curious about Dart, if not altogether interested.
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  Speaker 1: But the real question is at what level do you
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  Speaker 1: think this is a top ten pick? Does Jackson Dart
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  Speaker 1: fit ca ellen Moore's style? Look at the quarterbacks he's
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  Speaker 1: coached in the NFL, Dak Justin Herbert Jalen Hurts. Now
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  Speaker 1: he's coming to a place where he's got Derek Carr.
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  Speaker 1: All four of those guys are all very different stylistically.
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  Speaker 1: There's some similarities and overlap, but none of them is
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  Speaker 1: a cookie cutter of the other. So I think kellen
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  Speaker 1: Moore can adapt to any style of quarterback that don't
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  Speaker 1: worry about it's number one. Do you think it is
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart to top ten pick? Number two to thee
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  Speaker 1: How much do the Saints value Dart that's number two
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  Speaker 1: and then number three? Just taking a quarterback at nine
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  Speaker 1: help you win now? And you know the answer to
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  Speaker 1: that is no. And it doesn't matter what I think
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  Speaker 1: or what you think or what the Saints say. Actions
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  Speaker 1: speak louder than words. Say it all the time, and
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  Speaker 1: the Saints' actions map to a team that is trying
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  Speaker 1: to win now. They're not looking at twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: and beyond. They're trying to win now. It's why they
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  Speaker 1: restructured Derek Carr. It's why they freed up cap space,
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  Speaker 1: restructured all the deals, kicked more money down in the
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  Speaker 1: future so that they could re sign Chase Young, so
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  Speaker 1: they could bring in some free agents, while they traded
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  Speaker 1: for Devon Gotschaw, while they signed Justin Reid. They are
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  Speaker 1: trying to win now. They are effectively saying, the reason
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  Speaker 1: we were a five win team a year ago isn't
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  Speaker 1: because we had the wrong guys. It's our coaches were
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  Speaker 1: bad and we were injured. So get healthy and get
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  Speaker 1: new coaches. Voila contender. Now. I think that's a big
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  Speaker 1: pile of cow poop, because I think this team stinks.
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  Speaker 1: They're old, with a bunch of bad contracts. You got
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  Speaker 1: a mid quarterback, and you ain't going anywhere. You're ceiling
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  Speaker 1: seven eight wins, ceiling best seven eight wins this year.
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  Speaker 1: You're not winning anything but the Saints. It's not what
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  Speaker 1: I think. It's sort of the Saints think what might
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  Speaker 1: they do at nine? The Saints think they're contenders. And
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  Speaker 1: if you think you're a contender such that you're willing
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  Speaker 1: to sacrifice his future years of the cap to restructure
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr and other deals to go sign Justin reed
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  Speaker 1: to resign Chase Young in fifty one million dollars to
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  Speaker 1: give Juwan Johnson thirty million dollars. You're not using the
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  Speaker 1: ninth pick on a future asset. You're using the ninth
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  Speaker 1: pick on someone you think can give Derek Carr a
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  Speaker 1: weapon on the outside, like Tenoroa McMillan. Or you're taking
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  Speaker 1: an edge rusher, or you're taking Tyler Warren. That's what
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna do at nine. Anything other than that would
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  Speaker 1: stun me. Listen, if they feel like Jackson dart is
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  Speaker 1: the next Joe Burrow, awesome, take him and I'd be
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  Speaker 1: okay with that. I'm not okay trading up for cam Ward.
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  Speaker 1: If you go through your scouting process and you think
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart is a is a top ten pick and
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  Speaker 1: has that kind of greed and you take him, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Saints have taken a first round pick on
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback once in their history. It's never happened in
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  Speaker 1: my lifetime. I was born in eighty two. I'm forty
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  Speaker 1: three years forty two years old. They've never taken one
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  Speaker 1: in my lifetime. It's staggering. So yeah, if you see
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  Speaker 1: one and you're committed to him, bullish, pull the trigger.
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  Speaker 1: Falcon just did it. Everybody laughed at him, but if
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  Speaker 1: they hit on Panics, nobody's gonna be laughing. In hindsight,
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  Speaker 1: everybody laughed at the Packers when they took Aaron Rodgers
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  Speaker 1: and Jordan loved because they had quarterbacks. They took a
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  Speaker 1: player they liked and it worked. So if you love him, okay,
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  Speaker 1: take him in nine. You can't move up because you
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  Speaker 1: can't give up all those assets to do it. But
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  Speaker 1: if you love the player at nine, great. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think that the Saints loved the player at nine,
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  Speaker 1: And I think they're trying to take someone that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: help win now because that's what all their actions map to.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Hyper's out there just getting clicks.