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Football at Four: What to Expect from the Eagles on Saturday vs. Browns · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan is back on a Happy Hour Friday, and
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  of course the Eagles take on the Browns tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Right here on ninety seven three ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: A little look at the Eagles at where they stand
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  as they get ready for preseason game number two.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Pal?
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  Speaker 2: How are you good?
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  Speaker 3: Mike? So, by the way, so when are you back
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  into town?
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  Speaker 1: I got back last night. I got to my house
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  at one o three am.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, what's the time? What was the time during you.
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  Speaker 2: Were six hours? So right now for me is about
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  ten pm.
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  Speaker 3: Hep me. So if you adjusted it all, you're like
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  kind of screwed up by the time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I did not sleep a wink yesterday I
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  literally woke up in Prague.
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  Speaker 2: Flew from Prague to Lisbon.
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  Speaker 1: We had a layover there for an hour and a
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  half flew from Lisbon back, so with a nine hour
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  flying day, I did not sleep on the plane at all.
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  Drove two hours home from Newark to my house about
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  an hour and a half hour forty five. I got
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  to bet at like one thirty in the morning, and
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  I woke up today at six thirty. So I'm working
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  on about five hours sleep in the last forty eight hours.
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  Speaker 3: It's been no Maybe that's when the Phillies got today.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I heard about all.
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  Speaker 1: The travel problems the Phillies have had, but yeah, I
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  wanted to make sure I was here today.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you, Adam. I missed talking
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  to hire Man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh did a great jet filling and we loved
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  doing it with Josh. But yeah, we have the rare
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  one o'clock Eastern game on Saturday, which I We're having
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  a Patreon chad Our Tier three Memphis fun. We did
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  one last week for twenty five minutes and it was crazy.
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  So many people showed up, like, you know what, We're
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  gonna do this again. So now we'll see how many
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  people are around, Probably about two forty five Eastern tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, you know, obviously you're right the weekend one
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  o'clock Saturday afternoon Eagle preseason game. But let's find out
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  some of the things we're expecting here and what we
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  have to learn in preseason game number two, which I
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  don't know is preseason game number two. It's not like
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  old preseason game number three. Right, We're not gonna see
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  starters like you used to the one before the last
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  preseason game.
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  Speaker 3: No, but it's interesting. Last year, technically the Eagles only
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  played one starter on even by the football and that
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  was this Makai Beckton. Now, but I put an asterisk
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  on it because if you recalled now Nolan Smith was
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  a rotational player and didn't start early in the season.
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  Noland Smith started for ice offt started. Now again you
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  have to have context. Mike Zack Bond had not won
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  they started inside backer job, so he did start week
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  two last year at New England. So that's when guys
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  will start. Where you go, well, is he a starter
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  or not a starter this year? And this is typical
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  around the National Football League if you have a joint
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  practice or two in this case, it's extremely rare that
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  a starter would play. They take the joint practices as
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  real work because Mike, it's very intense. I know they're
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  not getting tackled, but it's very intense work, particularly the
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  Wedny practice, which was an hour and forty five. Yesterday's
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  was at about an hour five.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's look at some expectations, Adam, Guys
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  that we're gonna be looking at mostly back ups there,
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  but there are some backups that are in interesting spots here,
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  and one of them is that number three quarterback position.
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  Because it assumes I don't know, are we not even
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  going to see Tanner McKee tomorrow?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Why you know, Mike, I've been thinking about this.
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  They McKee was, I don't know if you were still
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  here last week for their first preseason game, Tarer McKee
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  was unbelieping believable. It's incredible. Why what do you need
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  to know like that? The reason why coaches have told
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  me over the years that we play players who are
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  key backups or low ens or whatever the case may be,
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  it's because they want to learn the thing. Do we
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  need to learn anything Mike about Tanne McKee anymore? No,
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  it's great he's best maybe the best background.
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  Speaker 1: No, and if and if you're one of these teams that,
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  like you know, like the Eagles do, they like to
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  get value in a trade, you might not think his
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  value might be any higher than right now exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Fact, Look, they're not treading now. But when we get
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  to March of twenty six and it'll be mckey's last
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  year's rookie deal, boyd times fly here, that's when you
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  want to bank that tape. This preseason game, the first
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  game against it today was ridiculous. Last year's tape was good,
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  last year's preseason was good. And honestly, Mike, he really
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  put himself on the map that first preseason game of
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  his career against Baltimore two years ago, where he had
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  a very average to blow average training camp. But man,
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  those games put him on the roster. So that's what
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  these are for now. Now, Dtyard Donovan Thompson Robinson a
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  former Brown, and Cole McCord. They're both going to play extensively.
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  Dtr is a little bit ahead of Kalin. McCord had
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  a good he did well in OTA's but one thing's
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  gouts up here.
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  Speaker 1: It has not been as good for him, all right,
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  so that's the battle for the third quarterback job.
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  Speaker 2: That'll be something to watch tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Also at wide receiver, the depth there, I mean, obviously
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  aj Brown has been out of practice with his hamstring.
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  I guess it's not getting serious serious yet, but if
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  there were to be serious, you gotta have some more
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  depth at wide receiver after the first two and then
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  obviously Johan Dotson, what's left?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, John Dotson? Is there three that's ready to decide it?
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  The number four or five spots are between Daris Cooper,
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  Terris Marshall and Smith and Johnny Wilson. Johnny Wilson in
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  the last two weeks is really taking this game to
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  another level. Where he struggled the first training camp, he's
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  doing really well. We expected to be on the team.
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  Darris Cooper. If you listen today show Andrew to check
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  what I did. Today's show, I was great. One of
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  our favorite shows we've done. I gave you the four
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  win one on Darius Cooper. We actually had very good
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  intel in Darris Cooper for multiple sources. Great stuff with him.
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  I'm putting him on the roster. I declared him on
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  the roster as they did two years ago with Red
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  blanket ship of the first free Bougus. I'm like, this
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  guy's making it. I'm putting Darius Cooper on the roster,
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  Tush Marshall, Mike, Now he's back to be aj Brown's backup,
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  but Johnny Wilson's coming in there as well, and then
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  an I Smith as he's that receiver. I would say this, Mike,
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  about these backuppers, it's been a little bit better than
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  I anticipated in training camp. I was not expecting these
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  guys to show up one way or the other. Trash
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  Marshall like the darling of OTAs and Cooper's been the
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  biggest surprise in training camp of either side of the football.
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  On Johnny Wilson again, it's special teams, it's blocking the
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  run game and used finally, Mike applying his side to
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  the football field.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Adam Capel's with US football for there's a
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  look at the receivers. Hey, they brought in all these
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  tight ends in the possibility that obviously Dallas Gotter was
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  not back.
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  Speaker 2: He is now back. So what about these guys, now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, that's exactly why they did it. They were
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  anticipating trading Goddard. They didn't they have seven total tight
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  ends on the roster. There's only one under contract for
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  next year. That's Cameron lot too, who's almost certain not
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  to make the team. But calcut terrors the two. They're
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  the questions. Jeff and I have been debating this all week.
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  Do they keep three? Well, here's what happens if they
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  only keep two. To see two in the practice squad.
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  It's it's and Kylon Granton. He just offers something different.
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  He's not in line tight end. Harrison Bryant could do
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  the in line stuff. E J. Jenkins in line tight end.
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  He also played some special teams. Granton's a move tight end.
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  He's what he called f tight end. He's he's not.
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  He doesn't really play in line, so he offers something different.
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  So this is a big game for them. This is
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  a big game specifically for Bryant, Granton and Jenkins for
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  so on and to push. They're not keep four tight
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  ends at the Mosco, keep three, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Adam Capall, Let's look at the offensive line, because
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  obviously you'd have a right guard position at the start
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  that looks like it's out of the mix. Now it
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  looks like that has been one. But does Landon Dickerson
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  injury has added some intrigue if in the event that
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  he missed a game too, maybe more, although he was
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  adding beers out at practice, so it seems like it
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  might be okay.
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  Speaker 2: What does the offensive line look like for this week?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just good he was he had a surgery.
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  One say, anything shown up has no bearing on anything.
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  It's just this kind of funny saying the beer. Now,
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  what Brett Toath is the backup? If the season started,
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  he would be in there. Brett Toath and Jeff pointed
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  this out to me. I cannot believe he's been all
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  off Eagles roster for seven years. Mike, it's just seventy
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  twenty nineteen since really not years, but seasons. Seasons, right, yeah, right,
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  Kenya Green. We don't know when he'll be ready with
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  the sure injury. They're not very deep now at guards,
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  so this is a concern. The question was now, first
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  of all, we gotta think that Brett Toast should play tomorrow.
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  He needs work. I mentioned Beckton, who was the starter
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  last year. Now, the reason why not to play him
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  is because if he's got to play Week one and
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  to get hurt tomorrow, you got a major problem. Because
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  then your damn Darry Cadorter is not a natural left
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  side player. He's really you just got cross trained for
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  the first time at left guard, Ken you green out,
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  so that they're running out of options here, Mike, we
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  thought the death that guard was pretty good. And Drew
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  Kennell's only a center, so it's not And Trevor Keying
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  clearly not ready. He's about he's a third string left guard,
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  a third string center.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, All right, let's look at the defense where
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  there was a ton of stories before camp. How many
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  of those stories have cleared up. Let's start at defensive
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  tackle where they lost Milton Williams. Looks like Ojomo has
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  kind of settled everybody's mind there. What about everybody else?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, right now, you want to see about Ty Robinson.
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  He's had an up and down training camp. He's just
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  it's a technique and he's got to learn the techniques here.
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  Very explosive Byron Young just came back from his great
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  injury with the Booker trade, Mike and Gabe Hall. Thankfully
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  he got hurt lad Sunday night at the I went practice.
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  It was his shoulder injury. He's fine. I mean, he's
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  not doing everything, but I'm penciling him on the Rocks
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  for the fall. I haven't put him in yet like
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  I've done with Darius Coop, but he's had a very
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  good training camp. So yeah, it's big for those guys.
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  Pyke So they signed off the street Jacob Rodgers they
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  just signed this week, and Joe Evans, who were long
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  shots to make it.
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  Speaker 2: Boy.
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  Speaker 3: Their depth at de tackle, Mike is not very good
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  that that Booker trade. Had they had Booker, I'd feel
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  much better about it. But they they got to learn
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  a lot more about Barron Young and Hi Roberts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Thomas Booker was traded. He was in the Jacourian
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  Bennett deal last week with the Raiders, so he is
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  out and some young guys in there. You got older
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  guys on the edge josh U Azizo Zallari and then
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  a young guy in Antoine Powell Ryland. But you know
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  edge was a spot with Jylex Hunt that everyone was
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  excited about.
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  Speaker 2: How do we feel entering preseason game number.
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  Speaker 3: Two, Mike, They have a lot of players depth as
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  we have for eight years or not about how many
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  players you have, It's about the quality of the player
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  and Nold Smith coming back from his his surgery. He
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  looked fine. He looks healthy. Jef Gunn is not a
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  proven pass rusher. We're not really sure how good of
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  a pass rusher he is. We we like the development
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  as a run as a base defender. In the run game,
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  he's getting better as a pass rusher. He's not proven yet.
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  We're not totally sure if you'll be a three down
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  player yet. I wouldn't run with that yet. We need
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  to see more. They need They have three weeks to
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  learn this. Josh Uche is clearly their number three edge rusher.
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  Wasn't like that the start camp. The first week we
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  always say, read very little into the first week. Josh
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  as he's a Jewelry was the third edge rusher for
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  the only three practices the first week. Then it changed
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  the second week. He's the fourth guy you mentioned. Powell
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  Ryland is a very training quiet training camp. Patrick Johnson,
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  by the way, is over Powell Ryland right now. Not
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  that power Island won't make the team. I'm just saying
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  in the rotation and Obo Conkroe, who came over from Cleveland.
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  It's just a funny week, Mike. So many ex Eagles
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  from the front office and and and player roster are
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  now with and vice versa. But Obo Conker is there,
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  who's on the third team, So this is big for
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  those guys. Mike, we know they're going to keep four.
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  And John Campbell, by the way, seeing a little bit
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  of as an edge rusher, not a lot. Uh, And
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  he's healthy, so look, it's it's gonna be it's gonna
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  be interesting. There are a lot of roles up for
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  grabs his edge.
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  Speaker 2: Rushers right now, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: That's something to keep an eye on for tomorrow's game
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  against Cleveland. And then you know you got the linebacking spot.
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  You know, Jeremiah Trotter Junior. Heard a lot of good
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  things there.
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  Speaker 2: Campbell. What's the uh do you think we see Campbell
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  at all tomorrow?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's he's he's over the surgery, Mike, he he
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  looks good. It's to the point now like there's really
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  to me, no reason why they wouldn't play him because
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  he's healthy. It's it's a situation where you go, you
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  know what, they got to learn a little bit more
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  about him. He's still learning the defense. I think we
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  kind of know that. So to me at this point,
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  Mike wouldn't you not play him and smile Mond and
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  I was able to see him yesterday. He is a
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  tall guy, he's he's just not thick. Last week, Mike, smile,
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  Mandan and Jeremiah try to do. We're the starters, so
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  you know, we we should we should note that. But Campbell,
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  Mike is a guy is so intriguing. He flashes in
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  training camp. He's got rare side for an inside backer.
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  You typically don't see guys built like that. And I'm
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  looking forward to this. And by the way, Campbell played
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  last week fifteen steps on defense and three on on
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  special teams.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll close out with the secondary. You got
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  a lot of corner news here. Uh, and then of
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  course the safety spot.
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  Speaker 3: Mike, This this quarter thing is is a is a quagmire.
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  I honestly, it's even been worse than I anticipated. We
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  generally have a pretty good beat to where things you're going.
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  And not that I thought Ringo or Jackson would really
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  seize the job. But and Jacoreyan Bennett's been up and
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  down so far. It's been tough for him because this
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  defense is different than the one that he played in
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  with Leaders and Mac McWilliams. You know, it's and this
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  is not a shot at mc McWilliams. That's a compliment.
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  But when mac McWilliams is getting first team reps on
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  the outside, not a lot, that tells you that there
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  it's completely opposite. Quinnon Mitchell. That's not good, Mike. They
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  already made one trade. I'm not rolling at another one
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  at the end of August. Here and this thing doesn't
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  look you know why, Mike, Because Harry Roseman. This is
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  what someone who used to work for and told me.
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  The guy's fearless. He doesn't care if it doesn't look right.
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  He's got such a good feel for it and how
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  he's got it. He pointed us out after the draft
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  in this post one of the post draft press conferences.
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  We've got thirteen picks next year. You can't You're not
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  going to use all thirteen. That'll never happen. So I'm
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  just I'm not rolling anything out here. This this is
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  we gotta give you a coin Beny Moore time though.
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  Speaker 2: That's yeah, it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Bennett was traded right before I left there,
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  and I talked to people that they liked him a lot.
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  They just didn't fit in with Pete Carroll not the bigger,
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  physical guy. They thought a lot of people thought he
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  was their best corner. I mean not not saying a
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  lot with the Raiders, but still uh so, a little
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  little uh interesting. Intrigued to see if he kind of
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  grows into this system as he learns it.
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  Speaker 2: No more, we will be a guy.
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  Speaker 1: Will definitely keep an eye on that whole corner, Ringo Jackson, Bennett,
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  mac McWilliams, keep an eye on them tomorrow right here
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  on ninety seven three ESPN Eagles Browns preseason game number
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  All right, Adam Kapla, we'll talk to you next week,
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