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Jerm Warfare - Ian Brighthope on the importance of holistic medicine · UK Column Radio

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Prof in Bright, hope you have such an uplifting surname.
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Thank you. The patients used to like it,
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the patients who said feel better already.
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Look, let's go back a few years. I mean, we're in, we're coming
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to the end of 2025. And many would say, but the
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COVID narrative, that doesn't matter anymore.
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I would disagree. I would say that it's still a
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very, very important issue because it's become a
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placeholder for for a lot of other talking points.
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But if we go back to 2019, just before everything started, would
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you go back there or do you prefer where we are now?
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Look, I'm, I'm happy to go back to pre AIDS days because this
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whole business of medicine, healthcare, viruses, etcetera,
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goes back a long time. And my experience, it was very
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different as an undergraduate medical student.
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I took a completely different view of medicine and I knew what
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was going on or I had an idea about what was going on back in
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the late 1960s and early 1970s with regard to to the training
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of doctors, because I trained in agricultural science before I
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did medicine and I did research in animal nutrition and studying
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medicine. The first three years of pure
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science was fantastic, but then the clinical years, the science
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went out the door. I mean, I couldn't understand
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why people have been diagnosed with depression or manic
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depression or bipolar disease or schizophrenia when they looked
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so unhealthy physically. Couldn't understand what heart
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failure was when basically it's retention of fluid and using
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diuretics and drugs to slow the heart down.
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It a lot of a lot of things just didn't make sense to me.
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And then when I was doing oncology as an undergraduate, I
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asked the Prof about the patient in the bed who was an old lady
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with cancer and being fed salt and sugar through her veins and
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Jelly and ice cream for a dinner.
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And I've said this story many times.
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I just couldn't believe if she was an animal, she especially an
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animal worth any money, we'd be pumping her full of amino acids
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and vitamins and minerals, but she was being starved to death
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as far as I was concerned. And I said, I can't be a doctor
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like this any, you know, I'm not going to be a doctor like that.
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And so I started travelling around the world looking at
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alternative healthcare systems and and medical systems and came
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to the conclusion that it was all wrong.
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I learned about allergy, I learned about food allergy,
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chemical sensitivities, all of these things that we weren't
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taught about in medical school. So I adopted an approach to
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natural therapists and chiropractors, homeopaths,
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traditional Chinese medicine. And it was a great awakening
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that we were completely blindfolded and brainwashed as
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undergraduate students. And this is going back into the
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late 1960s, early 1970s. Jeremy.
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Sorry I'm jumping in here, but it's interesting that you that
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you say this. A few of my guests have said the
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same thing as as you have. And if you had asked me a few
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years ago to say something positive about natural medicine
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or whatever, I would have, you know, laughed it off.
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Of course, that's all changed and I now see a lot of a lot of
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that stuff is ahead of the curve.
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But why you Why did you pick up on something that your peers
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didn't? Well, I still see my peers from
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my year when we graduated in 1974 every few months.
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They're still not really awake to what's been going on.
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They're they're older guys. I mean, they're not as old as I
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am, but they're in their mid 70s and they still don't realise
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that they've been conned. Even coming through COVID.
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They all took the jabs, They're all suffering from the jabs,
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they're all unwell and of course they're retired now.
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They've seen their colleagues die, get sick from the jabs, but
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they can't join the dots or they won't accept it.
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It's a willful why, though? That's.
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Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Why?
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Why are some of us able to do that and others not, do you
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think? I think, you know, going
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through, going through medicine and, and, and, and doing all of
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the things from surgery to psychiatry, acute interventive
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medicine, all of this, you start to see people who ask questions,
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some ask the right questions, some ask the wrong questions and
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get themselves into trouble. And I think it's asking the
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wrong questions which is most important, the wrong questions
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of the wrong people at the right time.
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And I was really in my undergraduate years laughed at
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for my ideas, but I still, you know, passed and, and did the
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usual orthodox training in all of the areas.
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And I loved intensive care, I loved acute medicine,
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cardiology, anaesthetics, did it all.
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But there was always something missing and patients not getting
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better. And so during the travels, I
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came back to Australia after starting immunology in Canada
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and the immunology was basically all laboratory work with very
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little in the way of seeing patients getting better.
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And I decided that I would go into allergy, that took me into
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food allergy that took me into people suffering from
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deficiencies, that took me into patients into hospital finding
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out what they were reacting to it.
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It took me into looking at diabetics, for example, and
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people with type 2, even type 1 diabetes on insulin, putting
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them into hospital, fasting, them, cleaning out their bowel
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from all of the rubbish. And this is going back into the
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1970s before anybody ever spoke about the microbiome.
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You know, I was giving them powdered probiotics back then.
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And I was being accused of trying to kill my patients with
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bacteria. I was accused of trying to kill
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my patients with high doses of intravenous vitamin C, accused
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of a lot of things. And the the patients were
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getting better. We were reversing a lot of these
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diseases. Psychiatric patients would get
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better. We now know that you can give us
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psychiatric patients a fecal transplant and they they may
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throw their, may even throw their drugs away.
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So we're learning, we've learnt a lot and we're learning a heck
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of a lot since COVID because of a different mindset amongst my
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colleagues. Even, excuse me, even the my
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colleagues in oncology and intensive care are starting to
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look at what's been happening with COVID, the virus and the
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vaccines and in particular those who were dying in intensive care
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and surviving if they were given repurposed drugs like ivermectin
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and hydroxychloroquine. But we did a study, We've been
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using vitamin CD and zinc for 51 years since I graduated.
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I'm recommending it during every winter whenever there's a
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pandemic, an epidemic, so-called of, of influenza and patients
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who had high levels of vitamin D&C and zinc in their systems
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may have got the virus, but they never got seriously ill.
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Most of them never even got symptoms.
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And, and this is well, people think, oh, it's magic.
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It's not when you understand what these nutrients do to the
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immune system. Why me?
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Well, I was, I guess, and still am, a bit of a rebel thinker.
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Yes, that's the pattern, yeah. I've got a fire in my belly
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still and I don't know when it's going to go out mate, you know
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when, when. Does God bless you?
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Yeah, God bless you for that. Because we need more, more
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people like you. But I mean, you mentioned
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earlier going back to before the AIDS thing.
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Why then? Well, I was dissatisfied with
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what I learned, so I started practicing and I looked at all
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of the literature around. But hold on.
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Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm jumping in when you say you
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were dissatisfied with what you learned.
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What? What does that mean?
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Well, it means that what I learned was not enough.
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We did 4 hours of nutrition in a six year medical course and that
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four hours is basically just telling us what proteins, fats,
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carbohydrates were and and that vitamins and minerals were just
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part of of our food intake. There were, you know, I did more
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when I studied agricultural science.
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I learnt more about, for example, take trace element like
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selenium, for example, selenium deficiencies.
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And we did a, we did a project on selenium deficiency producing
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white muscle disease in cattle and sheep.
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Now white muscle disease results in white muscles, white meat,
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which is, you know, valuable in, in restaurants that want white
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meat feel. But the, the animals end up with
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cardiomyopathies. Huge hearts.
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And we talk about idiopathic cardiomyopathy in medicine,
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idiopathic meaning we don't know what the cause is.
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And I'm, I'm being facetious and sometimes idiopathic means
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pathology for idiots, but it's it's unknown cause.
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And when you see patients with cardiomyopathy and of the
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selenium deficiency and you supplement them with selenium
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and other cardiac nutrients, they can come down or off their
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anti heart failure medication. And I've saved at least two out
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of three patients who are on the cardio cardiac transplant list
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for a cardiac heart transplant. And I paid due recognition to
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your brilliant surgeon in South Africa, Christian Barnard, who
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was the 1st to do a successful heart transplant.
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But we don't need to do that, Jeremy.
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We can prevent that. We can improve patient's
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well-being and health if we had a better Wellness and healthcare
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system. Ian, diet and nutrition is
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something that I'm very interested in.
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I, I could talk about it every day and I don't know what your
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position is. I'm quite good friends with a
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sports scientist, Prof Tim Noakes.
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And he, he, he, he is very passionate about getting,
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getting our nutritional intake right.
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And so he argues very much about sort of low carbohydrate diets
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and, and he's very big on sort of diabetes and, and, and, and
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insulin being, you know, these are, these are important,
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important things to look at. Do you generally consider diet
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and nutrition as sort of foundational to to to
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well-being? It, it absolutely is, Jeremy,
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absolutely fundamental. If we don't get the basic
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building blocks right, the biochemistry of the system,
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whether it be the biochemistry of the genes, the chromosomes,
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the division of cells, the oxygenation of tissues, the
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operation of the mitochondria, the respirations, the heartbeat,
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the functioning of the central nervous system, the, the
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transmission of impulses from brain to from nerve to muscle,
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etcetera. None of them work very well at
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all. So we've got to get the basic
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building blocks right. And, and you're quite right,
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nutrition is, is absolutely 100% essential.
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That's why we started the College of Nutritional Medicine.
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And we added on to that the College of Nutritional and
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Environmental Medicine, which has been going for 45 years in
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this country now, training doctors in, in the areas of
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integrative medicine, integrating into mainstream
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medicine. The, the, the zones, the blue
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zones around the world where people live the longest.
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It's the diets are so similar and so critical and provide all
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the basic serious nutrients for their well-being.
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That's also family and social connectivity is very, very
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important is and so is movement, not just not stupid exercise,
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but movement and simple movements like Tai chi, Ji gong,
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yoga, walking, all of this working in the garden, doing
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housework, activity is all very important.
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And the emphasis on is on family as well.
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And I think we miss out on this in, in in Western society,
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industrialized societies to some extent.
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And we've got to try and bring it back.
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But if you have a deficiency of iron, for example, and you don't
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have anemia as a result, but just a deficiency of iron, you
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can feel tired. And if you retire and you want
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to achieve something and you've got to achieve something, it
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creates an anxiety. And if that becomes a chronic
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anxiety, that iron deficiency can result in a depression.
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You know, it's it's I'm simplifying it as much as I
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possibly can, but single nutrient deficiencies and single
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nutrient studies are very, very important to take ignitance off.
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But once you've got one deficiency, it doesn't take long
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before you develop other deficiencies and or stress on
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your body's biochemistry. Snowball.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, they're talking now
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about autism in in the US and they're blaming paracetamol for
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it. Acetaminophen.
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Well, it does play a role. Acetaminophen is toxic to the
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liver. It's toxic to the baby.
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And we know that mothers who've consumed too much acetamol,
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paracetamol during pregnancy can end up with children who are
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highly allergic with asthma, etcetera, but also autism.
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But now when you're looking at what what causes of autism are,
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I don't mind saying that I'm a very, very ardent anti vaxxer
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because I don't think we need vaccines at all.
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And I don't. I hope you don't mind me saying
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that on. Your show?
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No, I'm, I'm the same, OK. And, and there's good reason for
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it. The first, the first day of
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life, most infants in this country receive an injection of
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aluminium and aluminium is highly toxic to the central
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nervous system. And no matter how much the
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chemists and the the physicians argue that it's below a certain
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level, they don't. It take doesn't take too many
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millions of molecules in one shot to actually have an adverse
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effect on a few neurons and you have an adverse effect on a few
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neurons and that is a stable effect as well.
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So I mean. For sorry for jumping in but for
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what it's worth when my son was born my wife attempted a a home
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birth and it became there were a few complications so we ended up
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going to the hospital but I told them he gets no injections
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nothing not even vitamin K and he is super healthy today.
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Yeah, well, I don't know how old you are, but you, you look
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pretty young to me. I think you you're, you're one
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of a out of a out-of-the-box still regarding the generations.
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More and more people are waking up to this.
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I mean, the same with my children.
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I were born in the in the early 1990s and I had them fairly late
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in in life. They are both extremely healthy.
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They've never needed antibiotics, They've never had
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an injection of a vaccine. And they, they are well, my son
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was a elite athlete and my daughter is just so fit and
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healthy. You know, these are the children
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who don't go to the hospital and they're doctors over vaccinated
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kids that are the sickest in the in the societies.
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Something that doesn't make sense to me in is if you just
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take a moment, just think about it for a second, right?
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How have humans survived for however long, right?
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10s of thousands of years, whatever.
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And only in the last 200 years have they needed an injection
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that's intramuscular in the arm for improved health.
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It doesn't make any sense. No, Jeremy, it doesn't make any
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sense to those of us who asked the right questions.
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In fact, we don't need most of the, the drugs that we use.
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You know, we, we have developed to an extent where we are so
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clever that we can actually create genes, artificial genes,
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and inject them into living beings that have never, ever
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been exposed to these genes and proteins before.
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And we have a serious problem with that.
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But in, in, in nature, we, we, we would die from malnutrition,
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We could die from an infection, we could die from an animal
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attacking us, or we could die in war.
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You know, the four dreaded horsemen of the apocalypse come
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along. Famine, pest, pestilence, hunger
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and and death, of course. But the Grim Reaper is always
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going to be there for us. We can delay our delivery to the
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Grim Reaper by living a wholesome life, staying away
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from drugs, just eating foods that are unprocessed.
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If you see something in a packet, tin can or bottle, it's
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being processed. If you can identify the food,
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then that's the food that you should be eating.
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And if you can identify its provenance, then you know where
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it's come from, You know whether it's been adulterated in any
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way. And that's where we should be
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heading. And that's where I'm trying to
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with our education programs here, teach our doctors and our
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nurses and the public through our various organisations in
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Australia. To adopt A more wholesome,
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healthy, holistic lifestyle. And there there's a big swing
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towards that. I hope we, we can achieve that
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and the digital identity and CBDC's don't come and destroy
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everything that man has evolved with because you and I'm sure
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your viewers will be appreciative of the digital ID
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and the CBDC's and the trap in the prison that that will put us
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all into. And we will only be getting food
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that they who are controlling us want us to have and the fuel,
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the ability to travel, etcetera. And we will be injected with
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vaccines, so-called vaccines as frequently as they believe it's
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necessary. So the I've been anti pharma,
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big pharma all my life and I employed when I had clinics and,
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and, and manufacturing various natural remedies a long time
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ago. I employed people from big
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pharma who told me, these are marketing people from big pharma
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who told me what they do, you know, so from a vaccine company,
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a very well known Australian vaccine manufacturer, putting
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out a vaccine they knew didn't work, that they knew would cause
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adverse reactions, that they knew would make children sick.
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Another, another group of big three big pharma companies came
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together to can the whole idea of a naturally occurring
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antidepressant when St. John's wort was shown to be very
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effective against mild, moderate and severe depression.
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They they came out with a campaign because the three
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companies manufactured different antidepressants.
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They didn't want the natural antidepressant to succeed.
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You know, I ended, I, I gave high doses of intravenous
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vitamin C to, to seriously ill patients with viral and
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bacterial infections. And then with the advent of the
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HIV virus, I was giving it to the, to the, the AIDS patients,
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some coming to me from Europe, some coming to me from the US
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for treatment. And when I wrote a book about it
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and had it endorsed by Doctor Lynas Pauling, the promoter of
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Vitamin CI ended up being before the medical board to be struck
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off. And an appeal to the Supreme
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Court here in Vic was successful and I won my case, which meant
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after that, what I was doing, I was basically cleared of.
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And we created a safe environment for doctors for
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many, many a couple of decades to practice integrative
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nutritional and environmental medicine.
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But with COVID, all the doctors were made so fearful of saying
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anything, not giving it, not allowed to give it full and free
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and informed consent to patients about this toxic injection that
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they're all meant to give. And they're still fearful, still
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fearful, although with some of the some of the conferences that
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we're having now, I get up and tell them you be bold, you be
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courageous, you practice what you think is good scientific
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medicine and health care and stand up against the
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authorities. And to some extent that's that's
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happening here in Australia, which is, which is good Jeremy,
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because it's badly needed. If I were to ask you to give me
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your shtick, your give me your model of health and well-being
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in a in a way that's easily digestible, what would it be?
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And you've come to to see me as a patient.
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I don't ask you a couple of questions.
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Do you want to get better? Do you want to stay well?
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Do you want to live a long and healthy life?
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And if you answer yes to all of that, then I take you through a
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journey of what you do need to consider.
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And the first thing you need to consider is what's going on up
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here. It's so important what's going
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on up here. And I say you create yourself 10
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affirmations and repeat those affirmations out loud to
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yourself every day. And while you're doing that,
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just make some changes, slight changes to your diet and take a
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few supplements. If you're feeling unwell for
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whatever reason, we'll work out what the unwellness is, whether
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it's cancer or heart disease or whatever.
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But what I want you to do is to drink more clean water.
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Eat unprocessed food, no sugar, white flour products, alcohol,
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reduce, tea, coffee, chocolate's OK.
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Try to determine what you're reacting to in terms of foods.
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More than likely it's going to be peanuts, dairy products,
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gluten containing grains like Greek barley, rye, oats, and
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minimize those as much as possible.
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You're going to be deficient in vitamin C because all humans are
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deficient in vitamin C. So I'm going to put you on oral
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vitamin C to start with. The stress that you've been
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under and most people have been under stress means you you're
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going to leach out your water soluble vitamins and some of
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your minerals like zinc and magnesium.
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So I want you to take a few supplements and more than
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likely, living in Western society, you're going to be
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exposed to antibiotics in in your food, especially meats.
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So I'm going to assume that your gut is not as healthy as it
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should be. So I'd like you to take some
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probiotics and some prebiotics. Here are the prebiotic foods and
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here are the probiotic foods. And because you've got gut
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problems, I think you need to take a probiotic supplement for
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meals. That's all I would do.
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And so now the other thing is basically you're not doing any
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exercise. I want you to touch your toes.
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Do some sit ups, only a few every day.
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Don't weigh yourself out. Go for 1/2 an hour walk, go for
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1/2 a minute walk, whatever you you can do.
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If you can't walk for any more than two minutes, then walk for
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1 1/2. But put that into practice.
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And if you've, if you've never done anything before in your
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life in terms of exercise, when you wake up in the morning,
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touch your toes once or just do 1 push up.
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And that means you've succeeded in breaking that habit.
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Then the next morning, do 2. Next morning, do 3.
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So individuality is a crucial factor when you're looking after
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people, Jeremy. And all of what I've been saying
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may be appropriate, may not be appropriate to the patient.
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Individuality is an absolutely critical factor in nutrition,
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too. You know, we are what we eat to
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some extent, but we, what is my mind when man's meat is another
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man's poison. So we, you know, I might be able
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to eat, eat eggs, don't have a problem.
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But Joe down the road has eggs and he feels depressed.
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You know, this is this is what individuality is all about.
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Ian, I I've said this a number of times on my on my show and
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I've I've even said this to to to Tim Noakes and he, like you,
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recommends supplements. Now I've got a love hate
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relationship with him, mainly because there are supplements
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which which suggests that they're taken as an accessory,
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which means that you should first sort out your primary
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nutrition. I'm trying to think how to ask
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the question is, is resorting to supplements right off the bat
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not putting the cart before the horse?
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Should we not be first looking at our primary food?
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Yes, absolutely. I agree.
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And that's what I do with the at the first consultation with
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people, patients want to start feeling better.
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And one of the ways that I discovered I don't prescribe
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supplements for everybody, but for those who really want to
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feel better quickly, I will suggest supplements for those
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who are really weak and tired and rundown and recurrent
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infections and so on. I'll, I'll give them an, some
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intramuscular injections for those.
28:52
For example, a 21 year old female comes in with severe
28:57
adult chickenpox. Now she was came in at night
29:04
time, said you've got to go to the hospital.
29:06
You, you are in a serious condition.
29:08
You can hardly breathe and you can't, you can hardly swallow
29:11
your own mucus. But I said, I'll give you
29:17
something to get you on the way. I gave her some intravenous
29:20
vitamin CA, big, big, big dose, an intramuscular injection of
29:25
vitamin B to lift up her energy levels.
29:28
And I said off to hospital the next morning.
29:30
That was about 9:00 at night. The next morning I was in the
29:33
clinic and I saw her walking up the up the driveway.
29:38
She was eating, she was drinking.
29:41
The pox had all dried up. No new pox, but they're all over
29:44
her body and down at trachea and esophagus.
29:46
Now that's an acute situation where if I said to her, you've
29:50
got to go and change your diet and exercise, it was
29:53
inappropriate management. So we have to have strategic
29:59
management plans for everybody so that they know once that
30:05
they've got a plan that they can look after themselves.
30:07
Responsibility for yourself, which is what, which is what you
30:10
and I'm sure many of your viewers do.
30:14
But the systems that we've got now have failed and they've
30:19
failed because basically we were at rely on synthetic chemicals
30:23
for healthcare and. There's too much bad stuff in
30:26
our soil, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, yeah.
30:29
And that's why sometimes the the nutrients that are required for
30:34
our liver to detoxify and the liver is the organ for
30:36
detoxification. We've got 2 phases in the liver
30:40
and they both require nutrients and we often don't get enough of
30:43
those particular vitamins and minerals in our to get the liver
30:47
moving again. So, you know, the judicious use
30:51
of supplementation is critical with, you know, in Australia,
30:56
I'm sure in South South Africa as well, the farmers have to put
30:59
out salt leaks and we supplement the the diet, the animals diets
31:03
during high productivity times, we supplement their diets during
31:09
mating times to improve breeding programs.
31:13
So it's a biological necessity if we're going to optimize the
31:19
health well-being of humans and the health, well-being and
31:22
productivity of our livestock. When you talk about vaccines,
31:30
does the principle apply to animals also?
31:33
Yes, it does. I mean, we make the animals sick
31:39
by giving them vaccines and they've got their own routine
31:41
vaccines as well. But I can, I can, you know, let
31:46
me say that I think the childhood vaccine schedules are
31:51
responsible for most of the allergies that we're seeing in
31:53
children. The hay fever, the asthma, the
31:55
eczema, the psychological problems, the ADHD, the autism.
32:02
I'm sure it's contributing to the increased incidence of
32:06
childhood diabetes to childhood rheumatoid arthritis or stools
32:10
disease and also contributing to childhood leukemias.
32:15
And leukemia is a very interesting picture because it's
32:17
regarded as a blood cancer. But in my experience with some
32:23
patients with leukemia, you find that they are completely devoid
32:28
of vitamin C. The white blood cells don't have
32:31
a scarring of vitamin C, and if you treat them with vitamin C
32:37
and the cofactors you can actually reverse.
32:41
The leukemia, I was asking about animals because it's a question
32:49
that's come up a number of times over the years when we talk
32:52
about vaccines and, and, and, and rejecting vaccines because
32:56
they don't seem to have any positive.
33:00
Well, they don't seem to have any near benefit.
33:02
And I often look at the animal Kingdom as a kind of guide
33:08
because because animals live in a way that in many ways we
33:12
should mimic because they, you know, they're a lot more
33:16
natural. And it appears to me in that
33:22
vaccines make no net benefit either to to animals and, and,
33:27
and in many ways antibiotics also.
33:33
Well, we we know that we can. With antibiotics, we can
33:38
actually change the flora of the, of the gut and pump
33:43
carbohydrate and other nutrients and hormones into animals and
33:46
make them grow faster. And, and when you put them under
33:49
that sort of stress, you need the antibiotics because they are
33:52
under so much stress that they're more likely to get
33:54
bacterial and viral infections. I'll go back to my back to the
34:00
early 1960s, nineteen 63 and I went and started agriculture and
34:08
one of the properties they had what we they had pigs at pig
34:14
farm and it was a very, very well established pig farm and
34:20
they grew pigs. Young pigs can get pneumonias
34:23
and gastroenteritis and, and you know that's a risk because you
34:28
you've got them in such small enclosures and, and, and over
34:33
populated enclosures and, and the possibility of infection and
34:36
dirt and so forth. What they did was an experiment
34:41
that it was called the hyper pig, which was the hyper stood
34:45
for hysterectomy produced and artificially reared.
34:49
So the sow was sacrificed and the piglets taken and
34:53
artificially reared with various milks of sort.
34:59
These piglets were brought up in a sterile environment.
35:03
They could not go into a, an outdoor environment and survive,
35:08
but they were, they were bought into a a sterile environment and
35:12
they they required very high levels of nutrients for their
35:18
immune systems to function. Well, that's a completely
35:23
unnatural situation. And it reminds me of what we're
35:26
doing with human beings. We don't sacrifice the mother
35:29
with human beings, but we bring them up in a highly sterile
35:32
environment, a a completely unnatural environment.
35:35
And if there's some dirt around, it's cleaned up.
35:38
And if the kids get dirty, well, the kids don't go out anymore.
35:41
And it it and, and play with hay and soil and and animals as much
35:46
as you, you, you would do on a farm.
35:49
And our rural kids, the kids grow growing up in rural areas
35:55
are generally healthier than those who live in cities.
35:58
We we're living in cities and we're cramming people into
36:01
suburbs now that almost going to be future slums, beautiful
36:07
suburbs in in Melbourne where I live being overcrowded, but
36:11
because of the political arena and the need to forward people
36:18
into 15 minute cities. I mean, I'm going off the track
36:22
here, but we are living in very unnatural environments and
36:26
animals, you, you see that they wander from place to place.
36:30
They, they may suffer from time to time from a lack of food, but
36:35
most of the time animals have survived in the wild.
36:39
And if you, if you know how the apes live, it's almost like
36:46
Nirvana. The, the, the great apes,
36:49
basically they're vegetarian. I'm not saying they're high
36:56
carbs because they do have a lot of foods that are balanced in
37:03
terms of the protein intake. But we humans have developed a
37:09
massive brain. It requires so much glucose, so
37:14
much fuel that we evolved away from the ability to produce
37:22
vitamin C. And vitamin C is manufactured in
37:26
the liver of nearly all animals apart from the human and higher
37:28
apes. It's manufactured.
37:31
It's very important. Yeah.
37:34
I I think the closer we can go to living more naturally as a
37:41
community with wholesome, unprocessed foods, foods that
37:45
are not being treated with chemicals, pesticides,
37:48
herbicides from soils that are nourished organically with
37:52
humans and with sort of compost returning to the soil the
37:57
nutrients that we need. And the soil is a critical
38:02
factor in terms of our health and our reproductive abilities
38:06
and our mental health. There was a book written called
38:09
From Soil to psyche. Very interesting book about
38:13
what's in the soil can end up in the brain, can end up in the
38:16
psyche, you. Apologize now for quote UN quote
38:21
going off in different direction.
38:25
I, I take great offence to to that.
38:27
Please go off in as many directions as you want.
38:30
I quite enjoy that, but. All right, I'll go.
38:35
I'll go off a track now. We came out of the we came out
38:38
of the jungle, we went in the fields.
38:41
We became hunter gatherers. Then we decided we'd start
38:44
growing things, keeping animals. And then we decided we would
38:48
milk the animals. We we drink milk, which is very
38:51
healthy for us. We found some seeds and we
38:54
started planting seeds and we found that some seeds were
38:57
durable and lasted many, many seasons.
39:00
And these were seeds like wheat and barley, riot oats and rice.
39:04
And we discovered that we could actually plant lots of these
39:08
things and it was very, very good for us.
39:11
Then we got to a point where we developed machines and we found
39:16
that we could get machines to actually row crop.
39:21
Well, they can crop, process sugar cane, process wheat,
39:26
process all of these things. Sorry.
39:30
No, you're making a very good point, Ian, because remember in
39:37
2020 when they locked us down? I don't at any stage remember
39:44
anybody in the medical or Pharmaceutical industry
39:49
recommending things like eating healthy and getting sunlight and
39:57
spending time with family. In actual fact, what we got was
39:59
the exact opposite. Get a vaccine, stay away from
40:04
family members, stay indoors outside of the sun and and take
40:11
these drugs. There was nothing.
40:14
There was nothing. Yeah.
40:16
In my view, that was healthy. There was nothing in our
40:19
country, your country in the West that said anything like
40:25
look after your health was basically locked down and and
40:29
what happens with lockdowns? People drank alcohol, they got
40:33
lazy and many people thought it was great.
40:36
It was a great holiday because in Australia we paid people to
40:39
stay home. Yes, it, it, it really destroyed
40:43
our, the fabric of our, our society, especially in Melbourne
40:46
here because in Melbourne we were the most locked down city
40:48
in the world. And I put a sub stack up
40:51
recently about our lockdowns because it was over 270 odd days
40:57
of lockdown and it really destroyed a generation of
41:01
children in my opinion. But the chief scientific
41:06
officer, sorry, the chief health officer of Victoria who worked
41:11
with the premier, who was known as Daniel Andrews or Dictator
41:15
Dan, as he was re nicknamed the chief health officer, recently
41:21
came out and said what we did was wrong.
41:23
What we did was not scientific. What we did, we made big
41:26
mistakes and we have to learn from these mistakes.
41:28
But he hasn't said sorry and he hasn't been held accountable.
41:32
And he's mere culpa, Jeremy, he's mere culpa.
41:36
He's not accepted by myself or anybody else who I know in my
41:40
profession because of the number of people maimed and killed as a
41:44
result of his actions. So what they did was completely
41:49
opposite to what they were doing in countries like El Salvador.
41:52
I mean, El Salvador, the government over there was
41:54
promoting it for advert. It was advertising for people to
41:57
go out into the sunshine and get some exercise.
42:00
And they actually had advertisements with people
42:03
enjoying themselves outdoors, mixing with one another.
42:07
It was only a flu like virus. It wasn't going to kill people.
42:11
It was only going to kill those who are old or who had
42:14
comorbidities. And the best thing for for them
42:17
would be to isolate them, test their vitamin D levels, up their
42:20
vitamin D levels and they probably would have resisted the
42:24
the virus. I mean, we did a study in seven
42:28
different tertiary institutions in Turkey because we couldn't do
42:33
it in Australia. The study was funded by
42:35
Australia's richest woman, a mining magnate Gina Rinehart.
42:40
The study showed quite clearly that vitamin D protected you
42:43
against COVID. The study also showed that if
42:48
you had very low levels of vitamin D, you would die.
42:52
The study also showed that if you're in intensive care and you
42:55
received high doses of intravenous vitamin C, you were
42:58
out of intensive care very, very quickly.
43:01
In fact, you shouldn't have been even admitted to intensive care
43:05
without giving a shot of vitamin C.
43:08
Unbelievable that our health minister saw the results of that
43:12
study and decided it was not enough and that he would
43:15
continue going on with the vaccines.
43:18
Which tells me that there is something seriously wrong with
43:22
the system, with the machine, with corruption, with with the
43:28
cartels. We know where they are, we know
43:31
who they are and of course with the the elites who are wanting
43:39
control. However, Ian, I've got a bone to
43:45
pick here because unless I've misunderstood you a couple times
43:49
you've you've brought up alcohol for all the wrong reasons.
43:54
I, I live on a vineyard. I love my wine.
44:00
Good, good. And, and you're going to, you're
44:02
going to have a very, very tough time here convincing me to stop
44:06
drinking. Listen, listen, we all have
44:10
vices, right? We all have vices.
44:13
Wine and whiskey are my 2 vices. I love a glass of red.
44:18
Well, I wish I could take my computer camera and show you
44:21
what's in my cupboard over here. OK, so you are giving me a
44:26
lifeline here. Yep, absolutely.
44:28
I mean part of the the longevity of the people in Sardinia and
44:36
the island of Greece, Igathea that they drink, but they drink
44:42
sensibly and they they that's. The key.
44:46
Yeah, that's the key, sensibly. Absolutely, Yeah.
44:48
Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
44:51
I don't have a winery, but I can tell you my, my, my cupboard is
44:57
that's some pretty good stuff in it.
44:58
And I live in a house that's 140 years old, just over 140 years
45:05
old. It's an old Victoria with a,
45:08
with a tower and a cellar. And so, but I'm telling patients
45:14
until you're better, no sugar, white flour products, alcohol,
45:18
tea, coffee, chocolate, there blah, blah, blah.
45:19
It's, it's the usual sort of blah, blah, blah.
45:23
But the other, the other important thing is to keep
45:26
yourself young and healthy is a dog.
45:30
So you write a prescription for a dog, OK.
45:34
And, and the other thing is, you know, you've got to find the,
45:38
the kid inside you. You know, you've got to find the
45:40
kid inside you and, and be able to muck around and enjoy
45:45
yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:49
Well, my, my wife lives in Queensland because Melbourne's
45:52
too cold for her. But I mean, she's in Queensland
45:54
and that's where she prefers to live.
45:55
But we we sell it. Wait, wait, wait.
45:58
My, my, my Aussie geography is not very good.
46:00
So, so NSW is where Sydney is. That's, that's, is that correct?
46:05
Queensland is above that. Is that right?
46:07
Queensland is above there's Tasmania right down the bottom
46:12
the the triangle of Ireland, Tasmania.
46:16
Then Vic is was the the state where Melbourne is the capital.
46:22
Then there's NSW which is the capital, the capital of Sydney
46:26
with the coat hanger, Harbour Bridge and the Opera House.
46:30
Then further north is Queensland over the border right OK,
46:33
Queensland has got the the Great Barrier Reef and the islands off
46:41
yes, that's right. And we've got the just.
46:45
Outside my, I was going to say just outside my studio.
46:48
Yeah, I've got a, I've got a, a wine rack.
46:50
It holds about 220 bottles of wine.
46:58
So, so, so, so, so the wine discussion is going to be quite
47:02
muted. OK, well take that look.
47:06
I look I have I have resveratrol every day and not in the form of
47:14
white red wine. But if I do have a red wine,
47:16
that's when I get my red red from but it's got some great
47:19
properties. It helps I.
47:22
Actually heard that a glass of red a day isn't is actually
47:24
quite good for you in any event. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I look, I
47:30
agree. But you if you are trying to
47:32
stop somebody's blood sugars from swinging and and you know,
47:36
100%, yeah, thank you. It does.
47:40
It does stimulate your liver, and too much stimulation is a
47:44
stress. So, you know, I think you're
47:49
probably able to handle other toxins better if you have a
47:54
liver that's trained to detoxify.
47:59
And of course, alcohol has to be detoxified and during that
48:06
process you're stimulating enzymes.
48:09
And I think I won't say anymore, Jeremy, because I want everybody
48:14
to go off and start drinking heavily, but I.
48:20
Forget his name now. There was a cancer scientist who
48:26
was on my show. Oh, I've gone blank now.
48:28
I am so, so sorry. He's no and he's written, I
48:35
don't know, 125 papers already on on science, on science, on
48:42
cancer being metabolic and not being genetic.
48:47
And he he argues something very similar to you that basically
48:52
reducing sugar just as a general rule of thumb is an excellent
48:55
idea because cancer tend various cancers tend to feed off sugars
49:01
anyway. Yeah, they, they go back to a
49:04
primitive way of producing energy and that's using too much
49:08
sugar. So they they love sugar.
49:11
They also love salt because sodium and or chloride on the
49:16
cell membrane stimulates the cell to want to divide.
49:20
So salt is another one, but not many people will acknowledge
49:25
that. And cancers don't like oxygen.
49:30
Most cancers don't like high tension oxygen and, or, and
49:34
heat. So what we do with with cancer
49:37
patients now is put them into hyperbaric oxygen chambers and
49:41
we also give them hypothermia either in a chamber or localized
49:45
hypothermia. So if you've got just one breast
49:48
cancer and there's no evidence of spread, then we can put a
49:50
plate on the breast cancer and heat the tumor and the the tumor
49:55
cells go into a process of suiciding by suicidal.
50:00
We call it apoptosis and it's another good way of helping.
50:06
We also with our cancer patients give them high doses of
50:10
intravenous vitamin C because it is a carcinogenic cancer cells
50:14
and it helps normal cells and the immune system function
50:17
better. We put them into infrared or
50:20
near infrared light beds and the infrared light beds pick up the
50:28
put the infrared light into the circulating cells and the
50:34
circulating cancer cells are actually affected by the light.
50:40
We can't get to the deep cells in the body, but the circulating
50:44
cancer cells die off and by reducing the circulating tumor
50:49
cells, we can reduce the risk of metastasis and spread.
50:53
So there's a lot of interesting things happening with the
50:56
biochemistry and metabolism in cancer.
50:59
And as you said, if, if there's any genetic component of
51:03
cancers, probably in less than 5% of cancers.
51:08
His name is Thomas Seyfried. Let's.
51:10
Just come see now. Yeah.
51:12
And yeah, he's got a great book called Cancer as a Metabolic
51:16
Disease, which in a very interesting horseshoe points
51:22
back to diet and, and, and what basically we are what we eat.
51:28
Yeah, it's, it's diet and it's micronutrients.
51:34
I mean, back in the 1970s and early 80s, there was Gladys
51:39
Bloch in the National Cancer Institute.
51:41
And she said there's enough evidence that micronutrients,
51:44
it's time for action in cancer care.
51:48
But, you know, there was some studies down and they designed
51:50
the studies to fail. William Bloch, now that was
51:53
Gladys Bloch. William Bloch in Hong Kong did a
51:58
study in northwestern China where they have a very high
52:01
incidence of gastrointestinal cancers from stomach bound to
52:05
anus. And they showed with three
52:08
particular nutrients in blinded and controlled studies in 30,000
52:13
people that three nutrients could reduce the risk of
52:17
incidence of gastrointestinal cancers by 26%.
52:22
Which means 26 people out of 100 who expect to get expected to
52:26
get cancer did not get the cancer.
52:29
And those nutrients would beta carotene, vitamin E and
52:32
selenium, the nutrient that I mentioned earlier, just three
52:36
nutrients. Now, if you look at the, that's
52:39
not even looking at their diet. But do you think all of the
52:45
oncology clinics and doctors around the world would be
52:47
recommending something like that?
52:51
It doesn't, doesn't make money. It's not part of the business
52:55
model. Yeah, that's right there.
52:59
And doesn't make money. No, doesn't make money, but it
53:05
the whole. COVID thing was about what makes
53:09
money, what doesn't make money it.
53:11
Was about making making money, making people sick, putting them
53:14
in the hospital and convincing everybody that the
53:20
vaccinologists. And when I was when I graduated,
53:24
Jeremy, there was no such word as a vaccinologist.
53:27
And you know, the vaccine ologists are now being trained
53:31
in psychology to reduce this thing called vaccine hesitancy.
53:39
It it it it's it's a a model. But I mean that, that too makes
53:46
me laugh. Vaccine hesitancy as as if like
53:49
the default is not to be hesitant.
53:51
And for some, and for some strange reason, you no longer
53:56
want to have this toxic injection put into your arm.
53:59
And now, you know, now you, you're the problem because, you
54:02
know, you're being hesitant. Yeah.
54:04
Yeah, you're being hesitant, but the, the, the, the old guy who
54:08
goes in for his 8th or 9th vaccine, he's the one who's
54:11
who's approved by society. He's he is a, a hero.
54:15
He's going in to to protect everybody else.
54:18
Well, he's lucky because he's so old.
54:20
His immune system's not going to go into shock, you know, and
54:23
he's not going to die from the vaccines where he probably will
54:26
eventually get dementia or something like that.
54:28
But that's the younger people whose immune systems are still
54:33
alive and kicking that that actually overreact.
54:37
Yes. And that's, that's also the
54:39
other thing. Have you noticed about, I don't
54:42
know, let's say 8 years ago, we could have had any discussion we
54:45
wanted about vaccines and nobody really would have got offended
54:49
or anything like that, right? Like now we hear about people
54:53
dying and, and, and, and weird things happening.
54:57
And I don't know about you, but I immediately think could it
55:01
have been? But you can't say it out loud
55:04
because you're not allowed to say it out loud anymore.
55:06
Have you noticed? Yep.
55:07
Yeah, yeah. Well, if I'm taught told I'm not
55:13
allowed to say something out loud, then I and I believe in
55:16
saying something, then I will say it out very loud, you know?
55:20
But I mean, people are dying and we know exactly why, right?
55:24
We know why and you still can't say it.
55:29
And if you allude to IT, people go, how would you know?
55:33
There's no, there's no way of knowing it was the vaccine.
55:36
Well, there is a way of knowing it was the vaccine because of
55:40
the of the numbers and the data that's been coming out.
55:43
We can't argue against that. And as a, as a doctor, if I give
55:49
a drug or an injection to somebody and they react within a
55:52
certain period of time, it's called the Bradford Hill,
55:56
Bradford Hill evidence criteria that if, if it's temporal, if
56:05
it's within a certain period of time and there is a known
56:08
mechanism of action by which that particular medicine or drug
56:12
or injection could have caused the patient to either get sick
56:15
or die or have reaction, then logic says, well, it's probable
56:23
that this caused the, the death or the serious adverse reaction.
56:28
So I'm not going to do it anymore.
56:29
When you get large populations where that's consistent and the
56:33
statistical analysis shows that the probabilities that are
56:38
occurring were not by chance, then that's science.
56:43
That's really hard science and that's what's happening, Jeremy.
56:46
We know that the sudden unexplained deaths are caused by
56:51
the vaccine. We know that the turbo cancers
56:55
are caused by the vaccines. We know that the Guillain Barre
56:58
syndrome caused by the vaccines. We know that the vaccines,
57:02
before they were even released by Pfizer caused, according to
57:06
Pfizer's own records, 1201 serious adverse effects, and it
57:14
was still released under the emergency use authorization, the
57:21
EUI. And this is one of the greatest
57:25
crimes against humanity. And I've been I might take
57:29
credit for being the first physician in the world to make
57:33
the statement that the mRNA vaccines within the lipid
57:38
nanoparticle are Class 1 carcinogens.
57:44
Yeah, when used, when you made that public statement, I think
57:47
you got quite emotional also. I did that was in, that was on a
57:52
stage in Perth in front of 3000 people and it was a very
57:56
emotional night because it was a revelation of what's been going
58:02
on. And I had a formal speech to
58:06
give with, with slides, with PowerPoint slides.
58:11
But before the event, there was a Meet the Speaker event and the
58:17
speaker, me being one of them, were exposed to politicians, to
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academics and to patients and the patients stories I'd heard
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many times before. But I got on that stage and I
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thought, I can't do a formal slideshow on this.
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I have to speak from the heart and that's I could hear people
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in the front row, front rows of the audience saying come on,
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doc, tell us everything. So I did.
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Yeah, well, the world, the world needs more professors like you
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in. I'm just looking at the time.
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I think it's a wonderful way to to end the conversation.
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How can my audience keep up with with your work?
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Well, please, I think you're, you're you're great to be doing
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these sort of things. Jeremy, I'd like to keep in
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touch with you somehow. Yeah.
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Easy. My work I I'm doing regular
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substance for the last few years so you can subscribe to my sub
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stacks and they are free I've. Got it.
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Yeah, it's ianbrighthope.substack.com.
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That's it, yeah, yeah. And I've got, we've got the
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World of Wellness, which is a local organization, it's a
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public organization. There's a lot of my interviews
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on that, but it's 35 Aussie dollars a year for all the
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information and we keep and that's nothing.
1:00:06
And the Line Council of Australia.
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Is our bigger public group. We represent 2 million
1:00:11
Australians there. So you know, through my sub
1:00:17
stack, you can connect it with all of these other things.
1:00:19
And I've just recently been asked to do a regular podcast.
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So I don't know how that's going to go because I'm not that
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technically a fame. Well, I'm pretty good.
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I'm pretty good on Zoom, but I'm I'm a learner on on Riverside.
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Zoom's terrible. Yeah, no, the quality of Zoom is
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a sub 4. Yeah, yeah.
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Now look all the stuff that come.
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I've seen it on Riverside. Beats Zoom, yes.
1:00:53
Well, with a surname like yours in Bright Hope, how can how can
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anybody go away from this conversation feeling down?
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Thank you for for joining me in the trenches.