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The Buffalo Bills are Thriving and the Sabres are Nose Diving · Sports Exchange

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Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Thursday edition of the
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Speaker 1: Sports of Jane. My name is Scott Morgan, the Motor
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Speaker 1: City man Mouth, pleased to be joined by my co
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Speaker 1: host George Right and Rod Peterson. Welcome a boar guys.
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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to all.
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Speaker 3: Ye, happy to be here, Hi Rod him Scott.
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Speaker 1: Happy Holidays, Happy Honada, Happy New Year, and happy and
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Speaker 1: happy birthday to myself for that matter. On the n No,
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Speaker 1: what's up to twenty nine?
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Speaker 2: Dead Scott?
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but we won't be doing the show on
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Speaker 1: the twenty nine. Thought probably be in Orlando's Candy and
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Speaker 1: I fare to. We're already applied for the Miami Iowa
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Speaker 1: State Games, so we'll see what happens when we get there.
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Speaker 1: The title of show, there's the Buffalo Bills are thriving
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Speaker 1: in the safe Buffalo Savers are nose diving. Look at that?
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Speaker 3: What else tinal we have?
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Speaker 1: Mister Ikorn was at the game the Buffalo Bills Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen back to back forty point games. They defeated Detroit
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Speaker 1: Lions forty eight forty two. Of course, the Lions had
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Speaker 1: a fair amount of injuries and Dan Campbell decided to
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Speaker 1: take the plunge and went for what was it a
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Speaker 1: odds side kick with twelve minutes. I can only imagine that.
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Speaker 1: And then the Savers and coach Lindy Rofround on the eleven game.
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Speaker 1: Losing streak was prompted owner Terry Pagua to talk to
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Speaker 1: the team in Montreal. What good did it do them?
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Speaker 1: Canadians courch Buffalo sixty one on Tuesday? All right, Ron,
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Speaker 1: let's try to get a handle what's going on with
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Speaker 1: the Savers.
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Speaker 4: Well, nobody knows, and I can guarantee you they don't know.
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Speaker 4: And I can't wait to get George's assessment of the
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Speaker 4: Crazy Bills.
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Speaker 2: Game Bill's Lions game.
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Speaker 4: But as far as the Sabers go, I've got them
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Speaker 4: ranked as the thirty second team in the NHL and
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Speaker 4: there are only thirty two teams. You said it very well, Scott.
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Speaker 4: The owner Terry Pagula flies into Montreal to meet with
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Speaker 4: the team. Have you ever heard, gentlemen, of a player's
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Speaker 4: owner meeting. I haven't, and I will, and I've been
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Speaker 4: in this for decades. And by the way, what came
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Speaker 4: out of that meeting was I don't know who spoke
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Speaker 4: to the media or whatever, but they the resounding message
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Speaker 4: was that we decided that the answers to our problems
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Speaker 4: are in this room. And as you said, Scott, then
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Speaker 4: they promptly went out and got thumped six ' to
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Speaker 4: one in Montreal. They're eleventh consecutive loss. You know what
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Speaker 4: that is. Desperate times call for desperate measures, right, And
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Speaker 4: so when the owner flies in, guys, it's the end
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Speaker 4: of the line. It's rock bottom. And then you hit
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Speaker 4: another level below rock bottom. That's where the Savers are.
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Speaker 4: Because now, if the owner had that meeting, what do
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Speaker 4: you do? Now, I guarantee you I don't know. Maybe
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Speaker 4: you guys know they clearly don't know.
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Speaker 1: Bringing Lindy Rupp thinking he was a saver of the
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Speaker 1: franchise and Lindy to do everything but play the game,
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Speaker 1: and we know he's an icon in that franchise since
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Speaker 1: they've been obviously struggling for the last nine zillion years.
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Speaker 1: But George, no, no, this is a really weird one
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Speaker 1: with the Savers.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it is. And you know, Buffalo is such
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Speaker 3: a good hockey town and you know this, Rod and Scott,
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, they've had so many losing seasons
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Speaker 3: and to me, it just is kind of unsettling. Now.
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Speaker 3: I know they're not part of the original six, but
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Speaker 3: they're in that next grouping I call. And so they
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Speaker 3: are now sitting in a situation much as the Detroit
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Speaker 3: Red Wings not making the playoffs year after year after year.
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Speaker 3: And last I looked, there are only four points behind
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Speaker 3: the rd Wings. So despite the fact that they are
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Speaker 3: number eight in the division the Atlantic, they're only four
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Speaker 3: points behind Detroit, which kind of tell you a little
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Speaker 3: bit as to how much the revering fans have been
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Speaker 3: suffering this year as well. But nothing like this, nothing
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Speaker 3: like eleven game losing Strake.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know it.
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Speaker 3: Is it's a good franchise. I mean they had you know,
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Speaker 3: Scotti Bowman there one time for crying out loud, and
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Speaker 3: they oh my god, the players they've had, and you
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Speaker 3: know it, it is a very different situation. I got
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Speaker 3: to agree with Rod, you know, for the owner to
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Speaker 3: come in and then you lay another egg. You you know,
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Speaker 3: you're lost again. You got whipped by Montreal, not one
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Speaker 3: of the best teams in the league by any stretch,
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Speaker 3: the Canadians, and this happened. So you know, you can't
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Speaker 3: fire all the players. They're gonna make choices and make
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Speaker 3: some decisions in the coaching rank. It's just a shame.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what else could you say? I mean, the Savers
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Speaker 1: have been a team that the only thing that's ever
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Speaker 1: exciting that it ever happened, and was They made one
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Speaker 1: appearance in the stan League Final if I remember right,
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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Okay, didn't They beat the
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Speaker 1: Soviet Wings many years ago, and they scored a lot
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Speaker 1: of goals to beat.
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Speaker 4: Them an exhibition game, which doesn't mean anything, but that's.
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Speaker 2: The only cup of period.
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Hey, you're looking for some
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Speaker 1: positive looking.
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Speaker 4: You're looking a long ways back and digging really deep
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Speaker 4: to find some positives for the Buffalo Savers, and God
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Speaker 4: bless you for doing so. But you guys have both
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Speaker 4: brought up Lendy Rouff, fantastic hockey man, in his second
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Speaker 4: tour of duty with the Sabers, and after Sunday Nights
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Speaker 4: loss in Toronto, he goes, I've never seen anything this bad,
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Speaker 4: and he goes, this is on me to fix and
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Speaker 4: it's like, God, God bless you, Lindy, No, it's not.
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that haven't been able to
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Speaker 4: fix this. And I heard an interview with Jeff Skinner
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Speaker 4: in the summertime, who's now with the Evanton others, but
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Speaker 4: had been with Buffalo, and he said, I feel bad
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Speaker 4: for all the coaches that have been fired there because we,
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Speaker 4: as the player, were at fault. It's on the players.
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Speaker 4: And I've watched Buffalo when they come through Sunrise. They
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Speaker 4: haven't yet this year, I don't think, but I saw
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Speaker 4: them last year and it's mostly the same guys, and
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Speaker 4: it's the second something goes wrong in the game, they
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Speaker 4: packed their tents. They're just emotionally fragile. They don't trust
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Speaker 4: each other. There's talent there, but they're incredibly young. They're
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Speaker 4: not mature. And I don't know. I'm with Lindy like,
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Speaker 4: I don't even know where you would start.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fuzzling situation. All right, Well, we'll give
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Speaker 1: George his lion Bill's reference you see that day is
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Speaker 1: that the Josh Allen to me proven why he is
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Speaker 1: an elite quarterback. I think he had as many as
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Speaker 1: what six sounds in this game? I remember, right, But
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo bill Jim Nantz hyped him up, and they
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Speaker 1: certainly lived up to their They lived up to their billing.
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Speaker 1: I think this is legitimate threat to get to the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: I think so too, I I really do. I mean, uh,
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Speaker 3: Detroit was just blindsided, let's face it. I mean, Campbell,
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Speaker 3: you talk about coaches who said after the game, it's
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Speaker 3: on me. There was another line that Dan Campbell used,
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Speaker 3: of course, seeing the Lions go down and don't get
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Speaker 3: fooled by that score, because we know a lot of
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Speaker 3: those touchdowns for Detroit came late late in the game
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Speaker 3: when the game was already out of reach. But the
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Speaker 3: fact of the matter is is Josh Allen looked fantastic.
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Speaker 3: He fooled the Lions defense. He ran the ball, he
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Speaker 3: passed the ball, he did everything he could. He was
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Speaker 3: like a three wing circus all by himself and some good,
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Speaker 3: good players of course surrounding him. But I'll tell you
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Speaker 3: what those injuries. I don't know if they don't want
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Speaker 3: to talk about injuries, but boil boy, the Lion's defense
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Speaker 3: sure looked like it was a different unit out there,
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Speaker 3: didn't it. I mean, they were just pathetic. But Josh Allen, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean he is now in the driver's seat for
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Speaker 3: the MVP. But more important than that, of course, for
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Speaker 3: the Bills is to try to they got to get
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Speaker 3: past Kansas City obviously in the AFC. If they got
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Speaker 3: hopes to repair heat a trip against Detroit, that would
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Speaker 3: be in the Super Bowl. But again, there's a long
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Speaker 3: lot of football that we played before that happens. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I was very impressed. Scott and Rod Josh Allen did
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Speaker 3: a fantastic job, and so did the coaching staff of
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Speaker 3: that game.
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Speaker 2: Well, billis, I'm goo goo guys, Scott. Sorry, that's okay wrong.
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Speaker 1: Keep in mind that Jared Goff through five interceptions in
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Speaker 1: a winning effort and then through five touchdowns and a
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Speaker 1: losing effort. Yep, I think a mass four hundred ninety
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Speaker 1: four yards. Okay, right, go ahead.
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Speaker 4: You didn't talk about the call yet, the on side
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Speaker 4: kick I was.
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Speaker 1: I alluded to it a little bit earlier. It might
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Speaker 1: have been a slight overside, but go ahead.
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I want you guys take I mean
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Speaker 4: I was watching the game, and clearly Scott, you were too.
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Speaker 2: Whoever the announcers were.
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Speaker 4: I don't usually pay attention, but then when they went
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Speaker 4: for the on side kick with twelve minutes to go,
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Speaker 4: it was a ten point game, and even the announcer
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Speaker 4: said this is an odd time to call for an
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Speaker 4: odd side kick, and then of course checking in, you
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Speaker 4: got to tell the officials now that you're going to
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Speaker 4: perform an try to execute an on side kick. And
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Speaker 4: it's like, as a friend of mine set of learned
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Speaker 4: football man, former quarterbacks coach with the Eagles, Mike Kelly, said,
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Speaker 4: this isn't curling. Why are we telling the other team
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Speaker 4: what we're gonna do. So coming out of that game,
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Speaker 4: now the NFL is talking about changing the rule so
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Speaker 4: that it's a surprise, Like what a oh, I felt
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Speaker 4: bad for Dan Campbell. Not a good time to do it,
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Speaker 4: but to tell the other team you're gonna do it,
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Speaker 4: didn't have a chance.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that rule change has been an absolute far's
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Speaker 1: for sure.
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Speaker 3: It was a gamble.
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Speaker 1: It was a gamble.
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Speaker 3: He tried to think of a creative way, obviously for
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Speaker 3: his team to keep the ball and it backfired miserably.
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Speaker 3: Guy what he running back to the five or six
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Speaker 3: yard line or something like that, the Baltimore at the Baltimore,
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Speaker 3: the Buffalo player. And the fact is he said, if
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Speaker 3: I had a chance, I'd do it again. This is
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Speaker 3: ga emblem, Dan Campbell. So nothing surprised to span anymore
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Speaker 3: with this guy.
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Speaker 1: Well, well it's all about reputation. With Campbell, he did it.
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Speaker 1: He had many, many mistakes, but and again he'll make
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Speaker 1: all the mistakes of the world. Remember this guy was
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Speaker 1: given a six year contract, so Brad Holmes can give
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Speaker 1: him all the time and know only that this has
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Speaker 1: been a doormat franchise for a lot of years. And
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Speaker 1: now you bring on Dan the gambler, and so big deal.
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Speaker 1: You know, we'll find a way that we'll in eleven
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Speaker 1: in a row or whatever we're telling So what, but
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Speaker 1: I gave them credit for doing it. It's unfortunately led
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Speaker 1: to a touchdown and Buffalo continued to score. Really well,
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Speaker 1: there we go. All right, well, let's stay in the
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Speaker 1: state of New York. But this time when New York
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Speaker 1: Rangers have lost eleven of their last fourteen games and
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Speaker 1: also traded captain Jacob Trouba earlier in December. They currently
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Speaker 1: have a fifteen to fifteen to one record and are
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Speaker 1: in sixth place in the Metropolitan Division. What in the
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Speaker 1: Big Apple Rods?
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Speaker 2: They very cleverly disguised what a toxic, dysfunctional team they
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Speaker 2: are for in a couple of ways. Would you believe
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Speaker 2: they won the President's Trophy last year. I was stunned.
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Speaker 2: I just learned that, or was reminded of that last week.
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Speaker 3: Guys.
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Speaker 2: They had the best NHL regular season in the league.
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Speaker 2: Last year. They went to the Eastern Conference Final against
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Speaker 2: the Florida Panthers. We watched it a six game series.
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Speaker 4: This is not you wouldn't think from outward appearance as
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Speaker 4: a dysfunctional team. They're in the Eastern Conference two years ago,
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Speaker 4: the New York Rangers, but they fired Gerard Gallant a
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Speaker 4: couple of years ago after a first round bowing out
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: They're dysfunctional. Jacob Truba, the captain, I think we talked
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Speaker 2: about it on this show, didn't want out.
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Speaker 4: They traded him out anyways, and on his way out
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Speaker 4: the door, he said, it's a right of passage to
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Speaker 4: be fired by MSG. So from outside appearances, it looks
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Speaker 4: like the New York Rangers, the vaunted Rangers.
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Speaker 2: They're not. They're a joke, obviously, and I think they're
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Speaker 2: under the cloak.
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Speaker 4: Of the dysfunction of the New York Jets, and to
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Speaker 4: a certain degree, the Giants, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: They've been flying under the raidar for how bad they
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Speaker 4: are as a franchise, that's my take on that. And
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Speaker 4: they traded Capo CaCO this week as well, outstanding young
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Speaker 4: what you might think is a corner still in future
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Speaker 4: of the team. He was benched by the head coach,
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Speaker 4: Peter Laviolette, that laid escapegoat and then traded to the
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Speaker 4: Seattle Kraken. So they're not done yet. They're blowing it
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Speaker 4: up all right.
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Speaker 1: You know what, Before we go over to George, ye,
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Speaker 1: according to Front Office sport Ron just came up and
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Speaker 1: if I want to mention that everybody, now in fact,
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Speaker 1: you know what, George, give me your thoughts on the Rangers,
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Speaker 1: and then we'll go to this question by Joshua Door.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know they the Rangers. I put them obviously
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Speaker 3: ahead of the Red Wings as far as talent go.
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Speaker 3: And like you said, Rod, I mean, this is a
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Speaker 3: team that had the President's Trophy. They've had some really
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Speaker 3: good teams making the conference finals. And how do you
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Speaker 3: lay an egg like this? My goodness, I mean they're
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Speaker 3: seven eight and one at home and eight and seven
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Speaker 3: on the road. Okay, I could take the eight and seven,
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Speaker 3: but my goodness, gracious, they've lost three in a row now,
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Speaker 3: they are not doing what they need to do to
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Speaker 3: have a good team and to have a good record period.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is just an incredible fold by them
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Speaker 3: so far. Now, the good thing is for all hockey
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Speaker 3: fans is we know that it's a long season, and
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Speaker 3: we hear that all the time. So but now if
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Speaker 3: these teams want to be good, they better start playing better.
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Speaker 3: Now we're getting near the holiday time, near the end
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Speaker 3: of the current year, and then January, of course, you know,
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Speaker 3: and then they got that tournament, and then they got
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Speaker 3: the All Star Game and a lot of interruptions there.
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Speaker 3: But hockey, this is not what I expected. I didn't
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Speaker 3: expect it from the Rangers and a couple of the teams,
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Speaker 3: namely Detroit. I didn't expect it from them. But boy
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Speaker 3: oh boy, yeah, they got to turn things around it
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Speaker 3: and they gotta do it quickly. I don't know what's
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Speaker 3: going on over there, but they just are not playing
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Speaker 3: well at all.
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Speaker 1: Well. We'll also keep in mind that this is a
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Speaker 1: franchise that held out with igors Is struck in giving
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Speaker 1: him that long contract. So they've had dysfunction from the
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Speaker 1: beginning and now it's carrying over to a point where
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Speaker 1: now they're in a bit of trouble. They can't afford
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Speaker 1: a bigger margin of error, knowing that that's a very
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Speaker 1: tough division. Don't let me tell you. I was watching
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Flyers and the Reddies. We'll talk about the
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Speaker 1: Redlis a little bit, but the Philadelphia Flyers is like
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Speaker 1: a good team, and I like what John Tortoreo is
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Speaker 1: doing with Philadelphia, I really do. So New York's margin
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Speaker 1: of error is very low, let alone in that particular division.
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Speaker 1: But when you well, that's it. So when you have
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Speaker 1: you're having a problem contractually with your goaltender, who's unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Who in the right mind would not want Igors is
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Speaker 1: strucking This guy's unbelievable. He's gon to be great in
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Speaker 1: this league for a long time. Got a lot of
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Speaker 1: dysfunction there. So all right, So I want to get
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Speaker 1: to this point because Joshua Door obviously seems to be
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Speaker 1: pressing my buttons because we got something from front off
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Speaker 1: of Sports. But Joshua Door has promised one of these
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Speaker 1: days they'll have he'll have the guts to come out
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Speaker 1: of podcast one day if we can get him out
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Speaker 1: of his little cotton pick and shell. Okay, because I
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Speaker 1: know that. Obviously, here's a guy who's passionate about hockey,
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Speaker 1: and if he says any stupid things about hockey, there's
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Speaker 1: a quick band button that I'll blow you out of here,
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Speaker 1: josh So don't test me, especially on the last Sports Exchange.
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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Okay, before we came on air, Okay,
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Speaker 1: keep that up there. Question for Ron, what are your
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Speaker 1: thoughts about the Army Game Navy game drawing more views
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Speaker 1: than Stanley Cup Finals? Do you think that that is
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Speaker 1: an embarrassment for hockey to hockey?
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Speaker 3: God?
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Speaker 4: No, it was the one and twenty fifth installment of
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Speaker 4: the Army Navy Game.
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Speaker 2: The President was talking about it, Oh my god.
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Speaker 4: And what other games were on in the middle of
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Speaker 4: an afternoon three pm Eastern, which I might add the
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Speaker 4: game was on ABC. Yeah, uh no, it was on
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Speaker 4: CBS whatever, one of the main networks. In no way,
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Speaker 4: shape or form, Do I think that was an embarrassment
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Speaker 4: to hockey? Again that that game has been playing, been
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Speaker 4: played longer than there's been a national Hockey League.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. What Joshua fails to mention though, is it out
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Speaker 1: drew Joshua. If you're gonna put anything up here, we
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Speaker 1: got to make sure and I'm seeing a little bit
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Speaker 1: more now than the Stanley Cup Finals. If it out
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Speaker 1: drawed Game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals, I want
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Speaker 1: to make sure that the whole thing is brought up.
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Speaker 4: That's a different story. Joshua said it correctly. I didn't
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Speaker 4: repeat it right. It doesn't matter. It's America, it's the
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Speaker 4: Army Navy game. I don't care if it's the Stanley
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Speaker 4: Cup Final Game seven or a Saturday afternoon regular season
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Speaker 4: in December.
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Speaker 2: That's my take.
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Speaker 4: I feel like his hockey fans in America, We've got
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Speaker 4: to stop getting offended all the time.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's it is. I don't get offended by the way.
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Speaker 2: I'm not the type of god that does.
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Speaker 3: And the thing I wanted to add to Scott and
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Speaker 3: Rod is, like you said, I mean, this tradition goes
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Speaker 3: far and away above what we would call a normal
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Speaker 3: viewing audience. Okay, Army Navy, okay. And both of those
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Speaker 3: teams happened to be pretty damn good this year, especially
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Speaker 3: the Army, and so there's no question that that that
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Speaker 3: game is gonna draw. Now, the other thing you got,
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Speaker 3: and we've talked about him many times before, and the
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Speaker 3: you know, when you have a Canadian team in the finals,
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Speaker 3: which we saw with Edmonton and Florida, they still had
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Speaker 3: pretty good numbers for the for the Stanley Cup ratings. Yes,
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Speaker 3: they could be better, but the fact the matter is
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Speaker 3: he's comparing apples and oranges, as they say here. So
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Speaker 3: it's two different sports, two different audiences. But I'm sticking
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Speaker 3: with the guns. America is always gonna watch Army and Navy.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And Josh, I'll go ahead and that what's
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Speaker 1: an embarrassment to hockey? Okay, here's my thing. It's a
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Speaker 1: Game seven. I don't care about any other game, but
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Speaker 1: a Game seven, okay. And you had a very highly
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Speaker 1: competitive series with a lot of drawing power. That's why
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Speaker 1: it's an embarrassment, run, Josh, Okay, you had Connor McDavid,
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Speaker 1: you had a lot of Panthers players. You know, you
18:22
Speaker 1: have Barkoff. You have a lot of star power between
18:25
Speaker 1: those two. And that's why it's an embarrassment because Army
18:29
Speaker 1: Navy to me, obviously to me, we all know about
18:32
Speaker 1: the history of the game. And that's a good debate here.
18:36
Speaker 1: If we're gonna have our last sports and shade, let's
18:38
Speaker 1: have some fireworks. My goodness, Josha, you always know how
18:41
Speaker 1: to go out there and fireworks.
18:44
Speaker 2: Joshua got a two for one deal on fireworks.
18:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go, Joshua. So I think the
18:49
Speaker 1: thing that makes it an embarrassment is the star power
18:52
Speaker 1: that you had, and I think the our power that
18:56
Speaker 1: you had between those two teams and Army Navy, knowing
19:01
Speaker 1: that you're playing professional, major league hockey versus amateur That's
19:05
Speaker 1: where I believe, in my opinion, it's an embarrassment. And also,
19:09
Speaker 1: let me point out something else. Okay, when we talk
19:12
Speaker 1: about hockey, and I'm not a hater for hockey. I
19:14
Speaker 1: was brought up with my whole life. I'm brought up
19:16
Speaker 1: with George in an original six market. Okay, yes, I
19:21
Speaker 1: never hate hockey, but I'm gonna say one thing I
19:24
Speaker 1: do detest about it, and I'm telling it from a
19:26
Speaker 1: media standpoint anytime. The NHL is so stupid and they
19:30
Speaker 1: don't allow everybody to get on their media distribusion list
19:33
Speaker 1: to promote it, and they're consistently at the bottom of
19:37
Speaker 1: the popularity of the four major sports. I do have
19:40
Speaker 1: a problem with their marketing and their peer department. I
19:43
Speaker 1: make no bones about it. But the problem with Joshua
19:46
Speaker 1: Dore is he's not in the media. He's nothing more
19:49
Speaker 1: than a darn casual fan of what he is, and
19:52
Speaker 1: he doesn't know the media industry. And that's why this
19:55
Speaker 1: guy needs to understand that you can sit here and
19:58
Speaker 1: yap all you want chat room, okay, But the reality
20:02
Speaker 1: of the situation is if you sat behind a microphone
20:05
Speaker 1: and got out of the chat room, then you know
20:07
Speaker 1: what's really like to find out what we go through
20:09
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. Joshua, let's see if you have
20:12
Speaker 1: the guts that come in here again in twenty twenty five,
20:16
Speaker 1: because you're barking bigger than your bike.
20:19
Speaker 2: And well, he loves pushing your buttons and I like.
20:22
Speaker 1: When he does too. He's a good kid. But every
20:24
Speaker 1: so often, Okay, we know you're not a broadcaster, but boy,
20:28
Speaker 1: you act like one in the chat room. And that's
20:31
Speaker 1: okay because no matter what show you go on, somebody's
20:34
Speaker 1: gonna all bust you anyway. So yeah, to me, you
20:38
Speaker 1: have your opinion. I have mine, and I own the
20:41
Speaker 1: platform and you're just a part of this platform where
20:44
Speaker 1: you're just giving me your two cents work.
20:47
Speaker 2: He's a character, yes, Yeah, he's.
20:49
Speaker 1: A character, but good. He's a good guy. I've met him.
20:52
Speaker 1: I've known him for a lot of years. He's like
20:54
Speaker 1: a crazy little brother you like to beat up, but
20:56
Speaker 1: you still love the guy anyways. He's a good guy.
20:59
Speaker 1: Like Joshua, he means well. But if you want my opinion,
21:03
Speaker 1: why it's an embarrassment. I'll say it one more time. People, Okay,
21:07
Speaker 1: you're talking about star power and the Stanley Cup Finals.
21:10
Speaker 1: Couldn't beat a amateur game all albeit his Army Navy.
21:15
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. We did some stuff. We
21:18
Speaker 1: did a show on the Army Navy game and we
21:20
Speaker 1: had some really good numbers with our shows as well.
21:23
Speaker 1: And I had a guy on there named Bill Crawford
21:26
Speaker 1: who actually covers Army Navy, and this guy was unbelievable.
21:31
Speaker 1: He really was. Our show, obviously, is always good because
21:34
Speaker 1: we're hitting a niche market in the in the hockey industry.
21:38
Speaker 1: But the reality of the situation, we had good numbers
21:40
Speaker 1: because of what it is. But you know what, Joshua,
21:43
Speaker 1: the reality is is. You know when you say you
21:45
Speaker 1: don't need to be in the media industry or sit
21:48
Speaker 1: behind a microphone, I'm not a broadcaster. I'll tell you
21:50
Speaker 1: you'd be a great broadcaster on those face time calls
21:53
Speaker 1: you ever get in his face time calls, They were
21:55
Speaker 1: the most entertaining days I've ever seen. But I'm okay
21:58
Speaker 1: with a band for bringing this up. Yeah, you know what, Joshua,
22:01
Speaker 1: it won't matter whether I get rid of you or
22:04
Speaker 1: somebody else does. It won't make a lick of difference
22:06
Speaker 1: because they're going to say the wrong thing to the
22:08
Speaker 1: wrong person at one point, they're going to plow you
22:10
Speaker 1: out of here anything. I just like you because I've
22:12
Speaker 1: known you for a while. But that's why I think
22:14
Speaker 1: it's an embarrassment. But it's a good topic where you
22:17
Speaker 1: get both sides, and it's a very spiritable debate, which
22:20
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he did mention it in this particular show,
22:23
Speaker 1: but not sure how I got you around all because
22:25
Speaker 1: of a high energy guide, Jock. And I'm not the
22:28
Speaker 1: MotorCity mild mouth, josh If you read the mat it's
22:31
Speaker 1: a MotorCity mad mouth. That's the way I am generally.
22:35
Speaker 1: Plus it doesn't hurt. It's my last show of the year,
22:37
Speaker 1: so look at that. Scott just likes to hate hockey
22:39
Speaker 1: when he can. You are so way out of the line. Yeah,
22:44
Speaker 1: that is so far truth. But you know what, Joshua,
22:48
Speaker 1: you could say that I hate hockey when I can no,
22:51
Speaker 1: not really. Maybe I hate some of the people that
22:53
Speaker 1: are in it, okay, because of the fact that they
22:56
Speaker 1: don't know how to promote their sport to the max.
22:59
Speaker 1: But the sport is Hey, listen, I played it for
23:02
Speaker 1: a year and I've been around the wings a long time.
23:04
Speaker 1: I spent a little time with the Panthers. But your
23:07
Speaker 1: tunnel to your opinion, Joshua, everybody got opinion. Everybody has,
23:11
Speaker 1: you know what, folks, and in most cases they all
23:13
Speaker 1: stake anyways. So there you go, Joshua, take that to
23:17
Speaker 1: the bank in your and your tesla. Yeah, we'll tell
23:24
Speaker 1: you up.
23:28
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25:17
Speaker 8: All right, I'm back on Joshua some more. Everybody needs
25:20
Speaker 8: to get on this guy. NHL and drawing record numbers.
25:23
Speaker 8: I think they're doing all right, Give me the record number, Joshua.
25:26
Speaker 8: I don't want to hear the think word. Okay, I
25:30
Speaker 8: don't want to hear the think word. Give you the number, Joshua.
25:33
Speaker 8: You got time to hit Google. Give me the number.
25:35
Speaker 8: Do some research, do the journalism thing. Yeah, I always said,
25:39
Speaker 8: it's got my topic idea.
25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot of them are good. I use a
25:41
Speaker 1: lot of them. So get the numbers, Joshua, will will
25:44
Speaker 1: you open this conversation? But Reo, we're gonna take this
25:46
Speaker 1: conversation to Motown because the Detroit Red Wings for thirty
25:49
Speaker 1: one games or thirteen, fourteen and four. What's up in Motown?
25:53
Speaker 3: George, what's up in moto They've won three out of
25:57
Speaker 3: their last four. Hooray, everybody's or good? Yeah, I mean
26:02
Speaker 3: most people have been calling for their head coach's neck,
26:06
Speaker 3: or if not, there's even a few rumblings about maybe
26:10
Speaker 3: Steve Eisman. But the fact of the matter is is
26:13
Speaker 3: Chris Elich is not gonna want to fire either one
26:15
Speaker 3: of those guys. I doubt it in the middle of
26:18
Speaker 3: the season, and they have played better the last four games.
26:21
Speaker 3: So that being said, you alluded to it. Earlier, Scott
26:27
Speaker 3: that Eastern Conference is hard as heck. You cannot fall behind.
26:32
Speaker 3: And this team was not expected to scramble. They were
26:36
Speaker 3: expected to be right in the thickest things from the
26:39
Speaker 3: get go. But the problem has been all these scorers,
26:42
Speaker 3: they have have been sitting on their hands and watch
26:45
Speaker 3: another team score on them. The defense has been poor
26:50
Speaker 3: and the offense has been sporadic. Special teams again, the
26:55
Speaker 3: Wings continue to have problems on the penalty kill and
26:59
Speaker 3: the power play.
27:00
Speaker 1: But all this.
27:01
Speaker 3: Being said, they obviously did get a little bit of
27:04
Speaker 3: a boost. They beat Toronto, they beat Philadelphia, and uh,
27:08
Speaker 3: you know recently, and and and now you're looking at
27:11
Speaker 3: a situation where they've got a bunch of opportunities to
27:15
Speaker 3: try to put a few more wins together. But Patrick
27:18
Speaker 3: Kane is healthy. He was out for a while. Long
27:21
Speaker 3: story short, they got the guys back, most of them.
27:24
Speaker 3: Now there could be another injury to Edsonson after last night.
27:28
Speaker 3: The defense been that won't hurt that will hurt them.
27:32
Speaker 3: But all being all things being equal, yeah, they they
27:35
Speaker 3: they've been in a little bit of a slump scoring wise,
27:38
Speaker 3: but hopefully they'll get things turned around. They hope, So.
27:41
Speaker 1: So let me ask you how is how is Vladimir
27:44
Speaker 1: Terrasinko playing?
27:47
Speaker 3: Uh? Not as good as most people thought he would.
27:50
Speaker 3: He is not not fitting as well as I thought.
27:53
Speaker 3: And and like I said, the other big guys to
27:55
Speaker 3: break it is doing. Okay, Caine has been injured, but
27:58
Speaker 3: he's he He had a good game last night, But
28:01
Speaker 3: no taras Anko. He's got to step it up.
28:05
Speaker 1: Okay. Rod's laborsation from Hotown.
28:08
Speaker 4: I watched the game last night on TNT and what
28:10
Speaker 4: I turned it on. It was five too, the Wings
28:12
Speaker 4: were leading Philadelphia, and it was just something telling me,
28:16
Speaker 4: don't turn away from this, don't turn away from this.
28:19
Speaker 4: And then the Flyers came back it was two. Well,
28:22
Speaker 4: Philadelphia is a pretty good young team that are flirting
28:25
Speaker 4: with a playoff spot right now. And while I don't
28:29
Speaker 4: care for John Tortorella or his antics, a lot of
28:31
Speaker 4: my hockey friends swear by him. They think he's great,
28:34
Speaker 4: and they almost pull it off, Ay George. They came back,
28:37
Speaker 4: went right down to the wire. But what that showed
28:39
Speaker 4: me last night is Detroit can score when they are
28:43
Speaker 4: focused and put their mind to it.
28:44
Speaker 2: You know, they did last night against Philadelphia.
28:46
Speaker 4: So to be honest, I'm shocked they haven't made a
28:48
Speaker 4: coaching change because they should be better.
28:52
Speaker 2: They do have, in my mind, legit stars. Would you
28:55
Speaker 2: not agree most cider you know would be one. Caine
28:59
Speaker 2: has not really expectations since signing there. You've mentioned Tarasenko,
29:04
Speaker 2: Lucas Raymond, and Lucas Raymond. Yeah, yes, they're not playing
29:09
Speaker 2: to their potential. What happens when that happens, usually a
29:12
Speaker 2: coach is fired. So I don't know what what they're waiting,
29:15
Speaker 2: not advocating for it, but you know what I mean?
29:19
Speaker 1: Yep. Well, the only thing I'll say about it is
29:22
Speaker 1: Joel Quinville's out there people. He's out there. He's from
29:25
Speaker 1: the Winsor area. If there should be a move made
29:28
Speaker 1: right away, Joel Quinville should be the Detroit Red Wings coach.
29:31
Speaker 1: I don't understand why they haven't made the move. What
29:33
Speaker 1: do they got to do? Wait till the end of
29:34
Speaker 1: the year and miss the playoffs again? Seriously? Really? I mean, yes, Joshua,
29:40
Speaker 1: it was a good game versus the Flyers. Red Wings
29:42
Speaker 1: came away with it, competitive game. I was watching it,
29:45
Speaker 1: and the Panthers had a good game six to one
29:47
Speaker 1: over the Minnesota Wild last night. But yeah, the late
29:50
Speaker 1: starts with a killer if you're on the east, on
29:53
Speaker 1: the East coast. But that's what happens. If the Panthers
29:55
Speaker 1: is getting a lot of their time zone changes out
29:57
Speaker 1: of the way, you won't have to worry about as
29:59
Speaker 1: many they have and they have one too badly and
30:02
Speaker 1: over the last week. Not gonna get on in the night.
30:04
Speaker 1: We have just too other, too many other things to
30:06
Speaker 1: get to. But as far as the Red Wings, what
30:08
Speaker 1: about their goaltending. You know, you had, you had Lions
30:12
Speaker 1: last night, you had you have Cam Talbot. At some
30:16
Speaker 1: point you got to wonder when they're going to bring
30:17
Speaker 1: Sebastian Cosa. And finally, yeah, see what happens.
30:21
Speaker 3: Right, he came up for a couple of games because
30:23
Speaker 3: of the injuries, and whoso's down, you know he's not
30:26
Speaker 3: He's he's back in Grand Rapids. It's it's been like
30:29
Speaker 3: a big well because of the injuries. It's been a
30:32
Speaker 3: back and forth kind of thing. But yeah, they need
30:35
Speaker 3: to have steady, consistent gold thing, no question about it.
30:39
Speaker 3: And Stevie White tried to address that in the offseason.
30:41
Speaker 3: But you're right, Scott. The Sebastian Cosa is the one
30:45
Speaker 3: that everybody's hoping for. But he's just not ready. He's
30:49
Speaker 3: just not there yet. He's still in grand rapids.
30:51
Speaker 1: But when does he geta be ready?
30:54
Speaker 3: That's the problem. Detroit takes a lot but well not always,
30:58
Speaker 3: but a lot of times. They take a long time
31:00
Speaker 3: to bring these kids up. But I agree with you.
31:03
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he should be ready by now.
31:07
Speaker 4: But it takes goalies longer, guys, It takes goalies longer.
31:11
Speaker 4: The Florida Panthers have handled Spencer Night with kid gloves.
31:15
Speaker 4: Joshua Door knows that their first round pick from twenty twenty,
31:19
Speaker 4: twenty twenty. I believe it's been four years, three years,
31:22
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. He's been up and down, but Kosa
31:27
Speaker 4: led Canada to a World Junior gold medal heat Listen,
31:30
Speaker 4: he will be the guy I watched him in junior.
31:33
Speaker 4: I gotta defend the red Wings on this. Goalies aren't
31:38
Speaker 4: ready to come up as quickly as guys like a
31:40
Speaker 4: Connorbadar in Chicago, a forward of these kinds of guys.
31:44
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Okay, give you that, all right, Howards we go.
31:47
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the lightning part of the broadcast. Stephen
31:50
Speaker 1: Samptells is in an unfamiliar territory. He had zero eight
31:55
Speaker 1: game losing streams in sixteenth season with the Tampa Bay
31:58
Speaker 1: Lightning and twenty nine game Nashville. He's had one. Barry
32:01
Speaker 1: Trotz has gone on record saying though he has no
32:04
Speaker 1: plans to trade Steven stamkost all right, Rob, you followed
32:07
Speaker 1: the situation a little bit closer than both of us.
32:09
Speaker 1: Steve stampcos he's not a miracle worker in Nashville. I
32:12
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody said there, you know, and he
32:15
Speaker 1: obviously went there thinking, you know, they were a much
32:18
Speaker 1: better team than anticipated. Not the case. You know.
32:21
Speaker 4: I go on a lot of shows such as this
32:23
Speaker 4: and get asked this a lot about the divorce between
32:26
Speaker 4: the Lightning and Stampcoast, which is not what you asked.
32:30
Speaker 2: But I will say this, he's gone.
32:33
Speaker 4: Something happened there that he was not going to come
32:36
Speaker 4: back the Lightning or stabilizing. They're in a playoff spot.
32:39
Speaker 4: They've won five of their last six games. The Lightning
32:41
Speaker 4: are fine. And I'm a huge Steven Stamkos fan. We
32:45
Speaker 4: all are, anybody who's watched him sixteen years in Tampa Bay,
32:48
Speaker 4: one to two Stanley Cups. They're retiring his number. But
32:51
Speaker 4: it's just not happening. And I defer again to you
32:54
Speaker 4: guys wisdom and experience. You can't just necessarily go to
32:58
Speaker 4: a new team and fit in. Sometimes teams are not
33:01
Speaker 4: a fit for certain skill types, personalities, you name it.
33:05
Speaker 4: I was just in Nashville, as you know, two weeks ago,
33:07
Speaker 4: and there was no talk of the Predators. There was
33:10
Speaker 4: signage in everywhere downtown, but there was no talk of
33:12
Speaker 4: Stephen stamcos or of that team. And it's just I
33:16
Speaker 4: find it kind of odd and fascinating in a way,
33:19
Speaker 4: if my call him in the South Florida Tribune, we've
33:21
Speaker 4: been tracking these coaching firings and we can't believe Detroit
33:25
Speaker 4: hasn't made a move. Derek Lelan was, you know, in
33:28
Speaker 4: the odds to be fired first. Nashville hasn't made a move.
33:32
Speaker 4: There's second last in the NHL. We can't figure out why.
33:36
Speaker 4: I don't really know what Barry Trotz is doing. He's
33:37
Speaker 4: not going to fire Hey Trent, He's not gonna fire
33:40
Speaker 4: the coach. He's not going to trade Stephen stamcoast. I'll
33:43
Speaker 4: defer that Barry Trotz knows what he's doing. More than
33:46
Speaker 4: I do. But the coaches that were fired, not too
33:49
Speaker 4: many people saw it coming. Boston, Chicago, Saint Louis not
33:53
Speaker 4: necessarily in that order.
33:54
Speaker 1: And by the way, Trent Clark is one of my
33:57
Speaker 1: hosts on one hundred and eight such as Football Talk.
34:00
Speaker 1: Looking forward to having him and George back on when
34:03
Speaker 1: this show continues in January. Clark's a unbelievable guy. Maybe
34:08
Speaker 1: one of these data O opportunity to meet him. Ronnie's
34:10
Speaker 1: on the First Class InVID. He's an author like myself
34:13
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, all right, George, what's your take on
34:14
Speaker 1: Steven Stanton?
34:15
Speaker 3: I mean that, yeah, I mean we're talking about a
34:17
Speaker 3: Hall of fame or and to be settled with a
34:20
Speaker 3: record of what nine and seventeen? Oh, come on, this
34:23
Speaker 3: is not working out at all for Nashville. They did
34:26
Speaker 3: not anticipate this. I don't believe nobody would. But the
34:30
Speaker 3: fact of the matter is is that again, this is
34:33
Speaker 3: another example. You talked about the Rangers, we talked about Detroit,
34:37
Speaker 3: and these teams that were were supposed to be good,
34:40
Speaker 3: or at least part of the time pretty good, aren't
34:43
Speaker 3: even well. Especially nash Hall's way under five hundred. I
34:47
Speaker 3: don't know I don't know what they're gonna do. And obviously,
34:50
Speaker 3: like you said, Brod, you know, the quickest thing is
34:52
Speaker 3: changing coaches and stuff. But that's interesting because yeah, he
34:57
Speaker 3: he had that love affair in Tampa. They loved him,
35:00
Speaker 3: he loved them, and then to take this big move
35:02
Speaker 3: and go. And I understand the money's great, but oil
35:06
Speaker 3: BOYD hasn't worked out yet. I'm not sure how it'll
35:09
Speaker 3: work out. But it doesn't look good right now.
35:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it's a mystery because you said Rod, okay,
35:15
Speaker 1: and that being the fact that the Lightning are having
35:18
Speaker 1: a pretty good season. But well yeah, and that show
35:23
Speaker 1: isn't doing well well. And at some point a lot
35:25
Speaker 1: of people thought he Stampos could be head of Detroit. Well,
35:29
Speaker 1: don't know that. None of that came to fruition, all right.
35:32
Speaker 1: You know, Joshua Door suggested a topic earlier, and I'm
35:36
Speaker 1: going to get to this one because I really truly
35:38
Speaker 1: do like it. Yeah, Joshua Dor says, I hate baseball,
35:41
Speaker 1: but trend is great on The Baseball Show, no doubt
35:43
Speaker 1: about it. So now, actually, the Florida Panthers are going
35:46
Speaker 1: to get an outdoor game over at Loan Depot Park.
35:49
Speaker 1: My question to you, Rod is why didn't they go
35:53
Speaker 1: to hard Rock Stadium, knowing it's a much bigger venue
35:56
Speaker 1: and it's in Broward on the Broward Dadeline, And why
35:59
Speaker 1: did they choose Low Devo Park. I'm Glenda Panther's gonna
36:02
Speaker 1: get one. I'll be curious see how they can pull
36:04
Speaker 1: it off.
36:05
Speaker 4: I'm no ice making expert, but my suggestion would be
36:08
Speaker 4: they're going to put that ice facility in with the
36:10
Speaker 4: roof closed, and if the climate lends itself to it,
36:15
Speaker 4: they'll open the roof. But if it's hot like this,
36:18
Speaker 4: you know at Christmas, my God is eighty eighty one
36:20
Speaker 4: degrees today, it doesn't matter if it's artificialized. You guys
36:23
Speaker 4: are from up north. You know how natural ice versus
36:25
Speaker 4: artificial ice works. Even artificialized wouldn't survive.
36:29
Speaker 2: In this right now.
36:30
Speaker 4: So I guess is that because there's a retractable roof
36:32
Speaker 4: on Lone Depot Park. I've talked with Panthers people about this,
36:35
Speaker 4: to be honest, they're shocked. They're celebrating. Everybody thought that
36:40
Speaker 4: if there was going to be an outdoor game in Florida,
36:41
Speaker 4: it would go to Tampa because it's just a little
36:43
Speaker 4: bit cooler there, but it's lone depot park almost the
36:47
Speaker 4: furthest tip of the mainland of the state, and that's
36:49
Speaker 4: where it's going to be. So my guess is because
36:51
Speaker 4: of the retractable roof, Scott.
36:53
Speaker 2: That's my answer.
36:54
Speaker 4: But since that came up with the Board of Governor's
36:56
Speaker 4: meetings two weeks ago, there's been no statement from the Panthers,
37:00
Speaker 4: so we're all anxiously awaiting that.
37:03
Speaker 1: I know the Stadiu multi well. I have covered a
37:05
Speaker 1: lot of Marlin's game and really enjoy that ballpark. The
37:08
Speaker 1: only thing I wish about the ballpark is they would
37:10
Speaker 1: have put it somewhere else. But back to matters, will
37:12
Speaker 1: actually be able to market the product in Miami at
37:15
Speaker 1: Miami and once upon a time the Panthers played at
37:19
Speaker 1: the Miami Arena in Miami before they went to the
37:23
Speaker 1: suburbs Georgie. Any thoughts about that.
37:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm very happy that they're going to be
37:28
Speaker 3: able to get the game because there is a lot
37:30
Speaker 3: of interest in that. I'll tell you one thing you
37:32
Speaker 3: could get Bettman credit for, and that's the outdoor games,
37:35
Speaker 3: the Stadium series and the Winter Classics.
37:42
Speaker 4: Outdoor Classics Winter Classes used to always be New Year's Day,
37:46
Speaker 4: but I know this year it's going to be December
37:47
Speaker 4: thirty first, and that's obviously because of the playoffs and
37:50
Speaker 4: football and stuff.
37:52
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I mean they're going back to some
37:55
Speaker 3: stadiums again a second time, and Ohios Ohio State Stadium
38:00
Speaker 3: of course, is hosting Detroit and Columbus, which will be
38:03
Speaker 3: a great great Stadium series game. But yeah, I agree
38:07
Speaker 3: with Rod. I think the fact that the Dome is there,
38:10
Speaker 3: they you know, can be open, they're closed depending on
38:12
Speaker 3: the weather situation. I think that's probably, yeah, a big
38:16
Speaker 3: reason why, and I Campa deserves one too, I agree.
38:21
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it really would have been nice
38:23
Speaker 3: to have them get it first for the reason that
38:26
Speaker 3: you mentioned. You know, they've had Stanley Cup champions, they've
38:28
Speaker 3: been winners, they've had long franchise history. We know that.
38:32
Speaker 3: But you got a bigger crowd, a bigger draw in
38:36
Speaker 3: Miami area. Let's not kid ourselves with as far as
38:39
Speaker 3: they well.
38:40
Speaker 1: I'll end it on this, okay. Number One, the NHL
38:43
Speaker 1: has a fondness for South Florida. They had two All
38:46
Speaker 1: Star Games there. Anyways, they saw what they hit. The
38:49
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup finals have been why not give them an
38:52
Speaker 1: outdoard game. So right now, South Florida has an awful
38:55
Speaker 1: lot of momentum in terms of the National Hockey League,
38:58
Speaker 1: so this made it a very east the decision that
39:01
Speaker 1: they were looking for a way to get the game here,
39:03
Speaker 1: and it seemed like Long Depot Park was the most
39:05
Speaker 1: pogical placement. But I'm sure we'll be talking about this
39:08
Speaker 1: more often. But Joshua mentioned it earlier and I decided,
39:12
Speaker 1: you know what, that is a good idea, especially the
39:14
Speaker 1: last show of the year, and that we had alluded
39:17
Speaker 1: to it in previous episodes, and now we have more
39:19
Speaker 1: clarity on what the nature is. Final topic of the night, though,
39:22
Speaker 1: let's take the internet the NHL internationally first Chinese born
39:28
Speaker 1: player to sign an NHL contract. That's Kevin he spelled
39:32
Speaker 1: he by the Winnipeg Jets. He has a three year
39:34
Speaker 1: entry level deal. George, how good is this for international
39:38
Speaker 1: hockey that we finally have a Chinese guy?
39:41
Speaker 2: Yeah?
39:42
Speaker 3: And you know, I know we've talked about it on
39:44
Speaker 3: other shows and stuff that. Can't we come to a
39:47
Speaker 3: day where sometimes we don't have to say the first this,
39:49
Speaker 3: the first that. But the facts the matter is, we
39:52
Speaker 3: don't hear much about hockey in China unless it's an Olympics.
39:57
Speaker 3: Of course, Beijing hosted both the Winter Games and the
40:00
Speaker 3: Summer Games in the Olympics. All that being said, I'm
40:03
Speaker 3: happy for him. I mean, you know, again, this is
40:04
Speaker 3: a this is a you know, Uh, he's a he's
40:07
Speaker 3: a paycetter here. We got to see if if he can,
40:11
Speaker 3: if he can handle the NHL and and and be
40:14
Speaker 3: a positive impact. Uh, there's got to be a lot
40:17
Speaker 3: of other kids that love hockey, is I'm sure there are.
40:20
Speaker 3: We just don't hear too much about it. So am
40:23
Speaker 3: I happy for him? Yes? And and I I think
40:26
Speaker 3: internationally it'll be a great thing if he can succeed,
40:29
Speaker 3: and and there can be more Chinese players as well.
40:32
Speaker 2: Okay, Rod, I think it's a really good story. Following
40:38
Speaker 2: it enough.
40:39
Speaker 4: I mean, he was born in Beijing, moved to Toronto
40:41
Speaker 4: when he was six, so he qualifies as a Chinese Canadian.
40:45
Speaker 4: And they wouldn't they wouldn't have signed him if he
40:49
Speaker 4: wasn't able to play. And the Winnipeg Jets, by the
40:51
Speaker 4: way of the number one team of the NHL right now,
40:53
Speaker 4: so they are not doing this for any pr purposes
40:57
Speaker 4: or for anything other than hockey purposes. So if it
40:59
Speaker 4: opens the doors to a new market, I'm all for
41:02
Speaker 4: that too. I think it's all good. It's funny you
41:06
Speaker 4: say that, George, the first, this for first that I
41:09
Speaker 4: haven't heard that for a while, So this is the
41:12
Speaker 4: first in a while of the first of something, So
41:15
Speaker 4: bravo to mister he.
41:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anytime you have anytime you have a first from
41:21
Speaker 1: a country, it's always great, especially the worldwide. And the
41:24
Speaker 1: NHL has done an outstanding job marketing their product internationally.
41:29
Speaker 1: I mean, this doesn't go back to now we're talking
41:31
Speaker 1: about those all sort of games, you know, the Canada Cup,
41:34
Speaker 1: dating back to the Russians at seventy two. Oh yeah. Actually,
41:37
Speaker 1: I think the NHL has done a better job than
41:39
Speaker 1: a lot of the major sports have, including the NFL,
41:43
Speaker 1: only because they've done it longer. They've done it longer.
41:46
Speaker 1: The NFL in the last twenty years or so has
41:49
Speaker 1: gotten a hold of the international market. But all you
41:52
Speaker 1: have to do is the NBA is changing all start
41:54
Speaker 1: formats because they're defferent to find something that's any good.
41:57
Speaker 1: But when the NHL does it, thank you some pretty
42:00
Speaker 1: good moves. What do you have this All Star scenario
42:05
Speaker 1: going on the Nations or.
42:06
Speaker 2: Whatever you call it, four Nations face.
42:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got that one. And then you had North
42:11
Speaker 1: America against the World, I mean whenever they come up.
42:15
Speaker 1: And then of course the Olympics. So this is just
42:17
Speaker 1: another indication that the one area for me where the
42:23
Speaker 1: NHL gets it right is on the international stage. They
42:27
Speaker 1: allow their players to play in the Olympics, probably a
42:30
Speaker 1: lot more than a lot of others for so more
42:32
Speaker 1: power to them. You know, I could sit there and
42:34
Speaker 1: give them a hard time about their numbers and all that,
42:37
Speaker 1: and they're justifiable because I have to do is look
42:39
Speaker 1: at them on paper. But I will say this, internationally,
42:43
Speaker 1: they get it right. No if ens or buds about it.
42:46
Speaker 1: How many people these days understand who Bory is soling
42:49
Speaker 1: it tolmy Berdman. A lot of people don't, Okay, But
42:53
Speaker 1: that's going back to the seventies is really what it's
42:56
Speaker 1: going back to in terms of what you have now.
42:58
Speaker 1: Google these guys up. They were the pioneers that ended
43:02
Speaker 1: up bringing in a lot of what you have now.
43:04
Speaker 1: Once upon a time I heard that Vladis left Tretchiek
43:07
Speaker 1: was a team that the Red Wings were a team
43:09
Speaker 1: covering them, but they couldn't get him over. And of
43:11
Speaker 1: course I'm not going to get into the international thing,
43:14
Speaker 1: but the reality of the whole situation to me is
43:18
Speaker 1: the NHL has been way ahead of the curve on.
43:20
Speaker 2: Every team was trying to get Tretchak at one time.
43:23
Speaker 4: But you know, it's funny you say that because the
43:25
Speaker 4: NHL was the first league doing it, followed by I
43:29
Speaker 4: believe the NBA on mass and Yao Ming was the
43:32
Speaker 4: first well four A into China.
43:34
Speaker 2: But I really realized this.
43:36
Speaker 4: You I won't call you old timers, how about longtime
43:39
Speaker 4: hockey fans.
43:40
Speaker 2: We'll appreciate this.
43:41
Speaker 4: I was sitting at the kitchen table of Fren Flurry
43:44
Speaker 4: two or three years ago in Calgary and he was
43:47
Speaker 4: opening fan mail from all over the world and signing
43:51
Speaker 4: cards and he was going to send them back. And
43:53
Speaker 4: it was the first time I sat there and said,
43:54
Speaker 4: oh my god, they are global stars the National Hockey League.
43:59
Speaker 4: And you guys, as Detroit Detroitters, you know you're with
44:03
Speaker 4: the nineties. Constantino larryoto Off, I don't need to.
44:07
Speaker 3: Remind you Russian five baby exactly.
44:10
Speaker 2: So they they did it first, they do it or
44:14
Speaker 2: did it the best.
44:14
Speaker 4: I'm not sure they're still the best, but I think
44:17
Speaker 4: made them a lot of money.
44:19
Speaker 3: I think our crack research department will show you that.
44:22
Speaker 3: I believe it's Major League Baseball that started the international
44:25
Speaker 3: thing first. They had an All Star team that left
44:28
Speaker 3: after the World Series, and they did that way back
44:31
Speaker 3: in the day. I think they'll probably be the first
44:34
Speaker 3: to go at least international on a trip. But anyways,
44:38
Speaker 3: you're right. I agree with you, guys, Scott right on,
44:42
Speaker 3: man spot on. They've done a good job internationally. The
44:45
Speaker 3: NHL hats off.
44:47
Speaker 1: That's one of the best things I think they've ever done.
44:49
Speaker 1: I think they laid out the groundwork for everybody to say,
44:51
Speaker 1: overseas you can get talent, and when you can get
44:54
Speaker 1: overseas talent, to come compliment we already have. What do
44:57
Speaker 1: you have in this particular situation, more better players. You
45:01
Speaker 1: got more team, but you got better talent and a
45:03
Speaker 1: bigger feeding system and a pipeline some teams can win
45:06
Speaker 1: champions That's what I meant.
45:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, not in a marketing vein, but welcoming global players
45:11
Speaker 4: into your league. Sergei Makarov was the first in the
45:13
Speaker 4: late eighties with the Flames, right and then it just
45:16
Speaker 4: opened the floodgates to all these stars.
45:18
Speaker 3: Of the vost Nedamanski you remember him, Oh yeah, great names.
45:23
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
45:24
Speaker 1: Well, one of these days they'll do is show talking
45:25
Speaker 1: about the foreign influence. But right now is a perfect
45:28
Speaker 1: opportunity to get it in, especially with our buddy Kevin He,
45:32
Speaker 1: who obviously has led to our wheels turning to talk
45:35
Speaker 1: about how outstanding the NHL has been in terms of
45:39
Speaker 1: the foreign market. More power to them, he really. I mean,
45:42
Speaker 1: I remember many years ago when everybody loved the Philadelphia
45:47
Speaker 1: Flyers right for beating the Red Army team. Oh my gosh,
45:51
Speaker 1: I've never been a bigger Philadelphia Flyers fan in my life,
45:55
Speaker 1: knowing that the Russian came here and humiliated everybody, but
45:59
Speaker 1: they got beat up by the Philadelphia Flyers. In fact,
46:03
Speaker 1: I have AVC a VHS on that and I think
46:07
Speaker 1: that was called conflict that and I said's one of
46:09
Speaker 1: the best games I've ever seen. And you want to
46:11
Speaker 1: talk about a more unifying and I repeat unifying game
46:16
Speaker 1: for the all Americans to be that was an unbelievable game.
46:19
Speaker 1: But we'll go on and on, and I just think
46:21
Speaker 1: that bringing up Kevin He and the Chinese Born just
46:25
Speaker 1: certainly led to a lot of great ideas here as well.
46:28
Speaker 1: Great show tonight. Obviously, we'll be back here on January ninth.
46:32
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46:36
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46:38
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46:41
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46:43
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46:46
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46:48
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46:50
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46:54
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46:56
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46:59
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