Latest / Zone2Speak Podcast / Breaking Barriers: Florence Nakagwa Uganda's First Female Pro Cyclist at Canyon//SRAM Generation
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- 2:28Here we go. Welcome back to Zone to Speak, the podcast where we dive deep into the world of cycling.
- 2:36Today, I am honored to welcome Florence Nakagawa, Uganda's first professional
- 2:42female road cyclist, a rising star in the sport.
- 2:47Florence journeys nothing short of extraordinary,
- 2:51from cycling 50 kilometers daily to deliver food to her grandparents during
- 2:55the pandemic, to becoming the 2023 Uganda National Road Champion and signing
- 3:02with Canyon Shrimp Generation,
- 3:04a major milestone for African women in cycling.
- 3:08But Florence's story is about more than just racing. It's about resilience,
- 3:13opportunity, and the realities of being a female cyclist from Africa.
- 3:18From battling for recognition in a male-dominated sport, to facing challenges
- 3:23like visa issues and limited opportunities, Florence has overcome immense obstacles
- 3:29to get where she is today.
- 3:31In this episode, we will talk about her racing career, her experiences in international
- 3:35competitions, and the political, social, and financial barriers African riders
- 3:41face in professional cycling.
- 3:43We will also explore gender inequality cycling, how she stays motivated,
- 3:48and her vision for the future of women's cycling in Uganda and beyond.
- 3:52This is a conversation you do not want to miss.
- 3:56And I'm just beyond happy to see where you are today because I met you in Kenya.
- 4:02I think it was 2022 before you boomed.
- 4:07And to see you now in a world tour team, it really brings me a big smile because
- 4:13I know it's not an easy journey as a female cyclist.
- 4:17And I want to ask you more questions because I think it's even harder for a
- 4:22female African cyclist to break so many barriers to be where you are today.
- 4:26Yeah indeed because it's
- 4:29like coming all the way from africa to europe
- 4:32it's all hectic first
- 4:36course first of all it's really challenging
- 4:39to get to europe as an african and considering cycling within africa on the
- 4:47ladies side it's totally difficult because even for the most especially in my
- 4:54country first they were known into the women in cycling.
- 4:59Music.
- 5:05By myself, just believing in what I wanted to do.
- 5:09And then with the home local club that helped me out, it's been quite hard.
- 5:16I'm sure. Even after receiving the news of joining the Canyon Schwarm Racing
- 5:21Generation team, it was quite emotional because I was surprised and I was like,
- 5:29things were happening too quick for me because I just started cycling.
- 5:35In 2020 but in
- 5:38that year i was just doing the fun riding and
- 5:42then coming to 2021 i decided to
- 5:45start doing some serious preparations for cycling
- 5:48and then coming to 2022 i just got an east african pro gravel racing team and
- 5:57they were offering me a contract for that year and i was like oh This is too
- 6:02quick because it was actually just only one year of cycling.
- 6:08Amazing. I just want to take one step back because listeners need to know,
- 6:15you started cycling during the pandemic to deliver food to your grandparents
- 6:21that were 50 kilometers away from your home.
- 6:25Yeah. And then you started the journey to competitive cycling.
- 6:32But take us a little bit to your home environment.
- 6:36How was this journey of riding 50 kilometers to deliver food to your grandparents and then back home?
- 6:44And then I guess after the pandemic, like you just said, you started to have
- 6:47this drive to do some competitive events.
- 6:52Yeah because within that period
- 6:55it's like all the means of
- 6:58transport was stopped and the only transport means
- 7:01that was available was using the bike and most of
- 7:04the people were on the bikes and in
- 7:08the community they were always used to say that girls
- 7:11are not allowed to do the sporting activities and within
- 7:15that period I was already doing soccer and through
- 7:18my education I was being sponsored just
- 7:22because of playing football and i was like if
- 7:25people change by the full the football side that means if i also decide to start
- 7:32cycling they will start also to change and live in it because they used to say
- 7:38that the sporting activities are just for men.
- 7:43And girls were always just put aside.
- 7:47And I always used to wonder and it always kept on tickling my mind and wondering
- 7:58why, cause we are all human.
- 8:00And I believe that we all have different capacities and abilities, so.
- 8:07I was like, if I could do the 50 kilometer delivery to my grandpa's place.
- 8:14And gauging on the distances that cyclists do during their practices,
- 8:20it's kind of similar, no difference.
- 8:23And I used to see dad doing competitions and my brothers, and I used to admire
- 8:29them because for them, they were doing what they want.
- 8:32And me, I was always having no chance to do what I wanted because ever since
- 8:38I was a child, I loved cycling because most of the kids back home always watch different games.
- 8:48And me, I used to watch just cycling videos, always.
- 8:54Wow, you're ready. You're ready. You won it since the young age.
- 8:57Yeah, because I used to watch Dad coming back home with trophies, prizes.
- 9:03I was always like, I would like to get such things one day. And then dad was
- 9:10always like, but how will you do it because you're not allowed to?
- 9:15And then I was like, just wait. One day, one time, I will make people believe.
- 9:21And then during the COVID pandemic, when I started delivering foods and medicines
- 9:27to my grandpa, I brought the suggestion to dad.
- 9:31And I was like, if I can ride to my grandpa's place at ease,
- 9:37then that means I can also start cycling like in a competitive way and I see
- 9:45this is my passion because however much I do football but still my passion is
- 9:51with cycling so that was like.
- 9:56I have no problem with you. So long as your mom supports you and you also love
- 10:03what you're doing, there is no problem.
- 10:06Then we'll just have to see how the community goes around with it.
- 10:12So I was like, however much the community is against me, I don't care so long
- 10:19as I have my family support.
- 10:22Amazing. I'm so happy your family supported you because, of course,
- 10:28for you as a cyclist and as an individual,
- 10:32but your journey is breaking political, social barriers.
- 10:38You're a huge catalystic change for girls in your community and in Africa.
- 10:46Yeah that's it because i was always
- 10:49like whatever whenever i try
- 10:52to go for the training rides at first
- 10:55i used to go alone whereas i also waited for
- 10:59my brothers and either dad to give me
- 11:02some training sessions so that i
- 11:05can get to know what goes around within the cycling
- 11:08community and always people
- 11:11kept on saying discouraging words but the only way I could fight back to them
- 11:17was to keep silent because I knew silence is the best way and always ignoring
- 11:25their words and kept on doing what I allowed.
- 11:30Most of them started realizing because whenever
- 11:33they say something i could not reply that
- 11:36to them and i just kept focusing because
- 11:40it was just within a few
- 11:43weeks of training with dad and
- 11:46my brothers that was a local race
- 11:49and some other female
- 11:52who wanted to participate and
- 11:56it was my first race and i
- 11:59just wondered what i would do there because i didn't
- 12:02have enough experience accordingly and
- 12:06it was like i just decided to go for it just
- 12:09minding about what that has been telling me to do during all heart sometimes
- 12:14it's not yeah it's all heart it's sometimes you don't you know you can have
- 12:20all the training but if you don't have the heart and you went with all your heart yeah so i was like.
- 12:27I just had an instinct that I will probably win because I had some training from Dan.
- 12:34And then I was like, I just had to give it a go. And I actually won the race.
- 12:42Wow. Then after overcoming to three months of training, that was a race that
- 12:51was organized in our capital city.
- 12:54It's quite far away from where I live because it's 136 kilometers away to the city.
- 13:01So I told dad I want to participate.
- 13:04However much there are going to be some other experienced riders,
- 13:09I want to try my level best with them.
- 13:12Though it's going to be my first time to be in a big race.
- 13:16Dad was like, I'm going to pay for your entry. and all you have to do is just
- 13:25keep yourself in the peloton.
- 13:28Who was going to pay for your entry? My dad.
- 13:33Oh, nice. Oh, I'm so happy he was so supportive.
- 13:38So I just told him, trust me, I won't turn you down.
- 13:44So when I reached out the rest and looking at my computers, one at the other
- 13:52side, I was afraid and nervous.
- 13:56And then at the other side, I remembered daddy's payment for the entry.
- 14:02So I was always like, hey, whenever I was having a negative side,
- 14:09I also had a positive side because I always had something that could keep me in focus.
- 14:16And within the race, all I did was keeping myself in the peloton, doing no work.
- 14:22And then in the last 10 kilometers...
- 14:26I decided to check if there will be anyone strong enough to go with me if i make any move and then,
- 14:37all i got there was that i got a group of some five ladies following and then
- 14:45i knew it means they're strong enough.
- 14:49So I was like, then we can go work together.
- 14:54And then at the end, we'll just fight for the finishing line.
- 14:59And within the sprint, I surprisingly finished third in my first big event.
- 15:09Amazing. Look at you. Not just the strength, but also the strategy of like,
- 15:15I'm going to keep my pace on the peloton.
- 15:18That's a lot of awareness to have this check-in with yourself at 10 kilometers to the finish line.
- 15:27Amazing. That's a major instinct.
- 15:31It was always like, what helped me was always like, I knew doing the cycling
- 15:38sport is a bit hard and there are always some aspects to go with within this sport.
- 15:46So I always kept myself doing researches, watching different women's races and
- 15:53seeing how they do it within the peloton.
- 15:56So I always try to use the information that I get from the internet and then
- 16:03adding on my daddy's practice.
- 16:06Nice. Were your brothers at the Masaka Cycling Club as well? Yeah.
- 16:13Okay, okay. And you joined Masaka Cycling Club, is that when you won the 2023
- 16:21Uganda National Road Championship? Yes.
- 16:25Yeah, I did. Because it was always like I wanted some people who could nurture
- 16:32me through the cycling journey and coming with the club,
- 16:36they were open and welcoming any cyclist because they were looking for Rotarians.
- 16:42And I also wanted to join.
- 16:44So however much they were mostly boys within the club, I knew they can also
- 16:50still look out for the girls. So, and all I wished was what they were doing.
- 16:59So I got to have some practices, go for rides with the boys,
- 17:04however much they were stronger than me.
- 17:07But at least within the start, I could have, I could determine,
- 17:11be determined and have a goal, set a goal for the day.
- 17:15And I could not allow them to drop me before the kilometer mark that I had into my mind.
- 17:23Very nice. If it's a 100-kilometer ride, at least I have to stick with them
- 17:30for around 50 kilometers.
- 17:32And then even if they leave, at least I've reached my goal.
- 17:38Amazing. How has your training changed now that you are at Kenya Shrem Generation Professional Team?
- 17:46So before in africa most of
- 17:49most of the times you go for the trainings
- 17:53but they are not that programmed yeah
- 17:56and you just you just ride in haole
- 18:00but right now i at least have
- 18:03i set some goals and then according to the goals the coach provides me the training
- 18:09programs and always they are under the plan and they set different goals and
- 18:17it's already set according to the power and.
- 18:23The time that I have tried focus previously I used to go for either I could
- 18:31say that now I'm going to just do 50 kilometers and it doesn't matter if I do
- 18:38them in two hours or three hours But as for now,
- 18:42most of the times I have programs whereby I have to do intervals,
- 18:46different intervals in different sets.
- 18:50And within the intervals, they are always put under specific time.
- 18:56So if I'm to do something like four hours with intervals, most of the times I go for them.
- 19:04But still also I set a goal for the distance that I want to cover within that period of time.
- 19:14And always, every day, I try my best to be the better version of me that I was yesterday.
- 19:25And it always keeps me going. So what I do today sets my focus for the next day.
- 19:34Incredible. Incredible. Your drive is amazing. tell
- 19:37me how it is to how was being
- 19:41signed by canyon shrimp generation and how
- 19:45has been your journey moving from africa to
- 19:48europe like of course it's extremes
- 19:51worlds how has
- 19:55your experience been so far yeah actually
- 19:58at first the first time that i got to into connection
- 20:02with the canyon from generation team it
- 20:06was the time that i knew that i'm going
- 20:08to participate in the world championships in
- 20:12glasgow i got to chat with the can you from racing generation team director
- 20:19via instagram and he used to
- 20:23send me messages wanting to know about my trainings and the way I do it,
- 20:29the way how cycling is taking me within Uganda and then the last thing he told me in Instagram was that.
- 20:40He may be in terms of offering me an opportunity to join their generation team.
- 20:48And then at first, I didn't believe it because... You were through Instagram?
- 20:54Yeah. Wow. Okay. It was like, first, I didn't believe it.
- 21:02And at the other side, I had some belief within myself because I knew I was
- 21:08trying my best and progressing,
- 21:12but it was just everything was happening within a short period of time.
- 21:17And I saw things were going on too quick for me.
- 21:21And I was like, on the other side, I said it might be a scam.
- 21:27Yeah. Yeah, because with Instagram too, you're like, okay, is this real?
- 21:32And it's crazy, yeah, because you started cycling through the pandemic And then
- 21:37you started doing some gravel, some road cycling in 2022, 2023,
- 21:42you're a Uganda National Road Cyclist Champion.
- 21:47And then 2024, you're at Kenya Shrimp.
- 21:51Two years to go to a professional world tour team. It's amazing.
- 22:00And then I asked him, is this real? Then he was like, yeah, why not?
- 22:09Then the time I got to Glasgow, he sent me a text asking me if already there.
- 22:17And I told him that I'm already within the area.
- 22:21And he told me he's also going to be there and maybe we can meet in person.
- 22:29And then I was like, maybe this is real. I started leaving and then.
- 22:36Everything was going on, but
- 22:38my, the patron from my, from my skar cycling club didn't know anything.
- 22:43So I was like, it seems like I'm doing things out of control.
- 22:51And I was like, maybe I need someone who can be there for me.
- 22:57And all I knew, if you have people taking you, you all have to go through the protocol.
- 23:04So I sat down and explained everything to him because within that time I had
- 23:12signed also a contract with them, with the club, and it was for that year.
- 23:17So they were having control over me because they were my bosses within that time.
- 23:21So I had to tell them everything that was going on and for things to be clear.
- 23:27And all he said was that that's the thing that he always wished for me.
- 23:34And I was happy to hear about it and he was also surprised for me to tell him
- 23:39about everything that was going on because he never thought that I can do that
- 23:46because most of the times people,
- 23:49if people reach out to something, they don't tend to tell their bosses or inform
- 23:56anyone. and they just go.
- 23:57So he was surprised, and he was like, everything is okay, and he was okay with everything going on.
- 24:06And I asked him to be around with me as I went to meet the director.
- 24:13And when I reached there, he just explained everything, the way they handled
- 24:19everything within the team, and he offered me the contract.
- 24:27And I signed the contract from that time and all I wanted was like then after
- 24:37signing the contract the next step was looking for the visa and I heard that was a big challenge.
- 24:46It's a big thing for the Africans to work out on.
- 24:51The visa is a bit hard to get And also, it depends on the country where you
- 24:59want to go and which visa you have to get. Yeah.
- 25:04I made my first visa application attempt through the German embassy.
- 25:12Okay. But all that was way too hard for me because I actually made almost two attempts.
- 25:22And with each attempt, I had to pay because whenever you pay for the visa and
- 25:28you're denied the visa, the fee is not returned.
- 25:33Yeah. Does the team help you at all financially? It was like financially with before the end of 2023,
- 25:43I had applied for Strava grant application and it went through successfully.
- 25:51So I was using the money from the travel grant. Okay, good.
- 25:58Because still, I didn't know about it, but the team director from Canyon Shram
- 26:03Racing Generation in town who gave me a go on it, and he sent me the link.
- 26:09And he was 100% sure that it can help me around within the visa thing and anything
- 26:17that I want to do within cycling.
- 26:21So I got the money, and I always had to have the accountability for the money
- 26:30and see that it's enough for whatever I had to do within that period.
- 26:35And it was like it came to over half of a year before joining the team,
- 26:41and I had not yet got the visa course.
- 26:43I made two attempts, and they were all denied, and I'd already used a lot of money. for it.
- 26:52And then one day I just had to sit down,
- 26:56have a call with the director and asked him if there is any possible way that
- 27:03we can use for me to get to Europe because I really wanted to use this opportunity.
- 27:09And I said it's my opportunity. Of course.
- 27:13I had to come to Europe so that
- 27:16I can showcase my talent and I
- 27:19was seeing it's almost half of
- 27:22a year and I haven't got Europe and I
- 27:25wondered if the year ends and I'm not
- 27:28yet going to the team if I will still have that opportunity
- 27:32or chance to join the team for the next year but all
- 27:36I had to do was keeping proper communication with
- 27:39the team management and also
- 27:43informed them about whatever was going on and after we decided with the team
- 27:52director for me to go through the slovakian embassy apply for a temporary residence permit.
- 28:03Because automatically, if you apply for a temporary residence permit,
- 28:07that means you will have to,
- 28:08if it's approved, though it also takes time after approval, then they will also
- 28:15schedule for you an appointment for the visa.
- 28:18And automatically, you will have the visa to Europe.
- 28:23So that's what I went through. and it
- 28:26was almost at the end of the year in
- 28:292024 because I got the
- 28:32visa in early start
- 28:36of December and I didn't
- 28:39have any thought in my mind and I was ready for whatever comes because it was
- 28:46like in my mind I always thought of what if the visa comes out and I'm not yet
- 28:52ready but they tell me to fly to Europe at that very moment.
- 28:58And I always try to figure out things on my own sometimes.
- 29:04You are so brave. So brave. I'm such in awe of you.
- 29:10Your cycling skills, your bravery in life.
- 29:15I mean, it's not anyone that, you know, a lot of people just dream.
- 29:19And you seized every opportunity and how
- 29:23how was it to like land in europe and where
- 29:27are you living now and how are you adapting how is everything it was like first
- 29:32i had to because after getting the visa it was like they called me i applied
- 29:37the visa through nairobi it's a different city in a different country. It's in Kenya.
- 29:46The moment I traveled there, I went with just a backpack.
- 29:54Within the backpack, I had my cycling shoes and one kit plus two pairs of clothing.
- 30:06And some travel documents within the backpack because I was having an intent
- 30:12that they might tell me to travel to Europe the moment I pick up the visa.
- 30:17And it's what happened. Wow.
- 30:21So all I did was calling back home and informed mom and dad that I'm not coming back home.
- 30:29I'm just going straight to Europe. Wow.
- 30:33And then they were like, how is this possible? Do you have anything with you?
- 30:38And you're just going but you don't know anyone there and you're on your own and I was like,
- 30:46I'm going to do it the same way I've been doing it because I've ever been to South Africa by my own.
- 30:53Going to the UCI training center for almost three times in South Africa.
- 30:59I went to Namibia, wherever I've been traveling to alone.
- 31:03So I was like, just trust me. I got this.
- 31:08And after picking the visa, I talked to the director.
- 31:12He booked for me the flights and I
- 31:15had to do everything from there to Europe just in touch with them and informing
- 31:21them wherever I reached because from there I had to fly to through German was
- 31:28it to Frankfurt and then I had to go to Portugal because the team was having a training camp there.
- 31:35How fun. Portugal is beautiful.
- 31:38Yeah. And reaching there It was quite emotional because I got to meet people
- 31:46that I used to watch just in the cycling clips on YouTube.
- 31:51And I wish to meet them in person.
- 31:54And for that moment, the people I used to watch on YouTube were in front of me physically.
- 32:01And your teammates now. And they're my teammates.
- 32:06It was like a dream coming true. A hundred percent. Yeah, it's a pinch me moment, yeah.
- 32:14Yeah, and it was like, I was quite shy for the first time.
- 32:22Yeah. For the first time, I was quite shy because I was meeting new people and
- 32:28I didn't know how everyone goes around within the community.
- 32:34So I was like, I had to get some time to study and learn the environment and
- 32:41get used to the people because I knew this is a different...
- 32:46Environment from away from home because africa is different from europe and
- 32:53i wonder how i'll go around with the
- 32:56trainings and the altitude so it was everything was quite different but,
- 33:05in all i was expecting the best and all i expected is i will say is what i'm getting already.
- 33:14Because I found them friendly and I was happy about that because I was wondering
- 33:21about the way how I'll be within, around them.
- 33:26And there you are. Right now, I'll say that I'm with another family.
- 33:31I got a new family and I take them as my family.
- 33:36I see all my teammates are now my family because they're all new and they are
- 33:42friendly. So they are open within everything.
- 33:45And everything is running smoothly.
- 33:50Because moving from Port Go, the team is based in Girona.
- 33:55Are you in Girona? Yeah. I am in Girona.
- 34:00Really? Yeah. We need to meet. Oh, my gosh.
- 34:04Okay. Yeah, I see some of the Kenyan girls here. So we have to make sure I join you for zone one, right?
- 34:14Zone one, because it's like really, last time when I sent you a message and you told me that you're.
- 34:23Boarding to spain i was like i
- 34:26wanted to also tell you that i'm
- 34:29in spain and i forgot
- 34:32so i was like wonderling maybe you never know you might come to spain but in
- 34:37the same place with me so i'm here i'm right in bahi vale so we gotta we gotta
- 34:46meet for sure reunion from kenya Yeah, sure.
- 34:53Maybe I'll have to send you the pin location.
- 34:59Yes, yes, let's do that. And do you have your schedule for 2025 as the races?
- 35:07Yeah for now I have it because the
- 35:10team director sent it for me but it's still starting so soon because I'm hoping
- 35:18to go back home within this month because I have a tour in Namibia that I have
- 35:25to go for and I have to go with the national team because,
- 35:30i have to participate for the national and
- 35:33they they already registered and i will have i guess within the next couple
- 35:42few day of days i will have to fly back to uganda and do the rest then after
- 35:49i will come back to start the season,
- 35:53Oh, my gosh, that would be so much fun and probably emotional as well to be
- 35:57back home and your old teammates.
- 36:00You probably have a lot of new stuff to share with them.
- 36:04Actually, I just want to surprise them because they are not expecting me soon.
- 36:14And the thing is that when I go to call mom, she was surprised to hear.
- 36:20And she was like, even if it's seeing me just for one day,
- 36:25that could be enough for her because it was my first time spending the Christmas
- 36:33holidays without the family and entering the new year without the family.
- 36:40So it was the first time. And she was like, even if it's a single day, it's enough for her.
- 36:48And then I was like, I'm sure she'll be so happy.
- 36:52Expect me soon. And she's always checking if it's still in plan for me to go
- 37:02back ever since I told her.
- 37:06That would be amazing. So when your 2025 schedule for the races this year,
- 37:13are there any of the big tours that you dreamed of and watched growing up?
- 37:21Are you participating in any of those races and any dreams of participating in the Tour de Femmes?
- 37:29Actually, it's like, first, I wanted to have a go within the Spanish races.
- 37:38And looking on my, the first race that I had a glass on was the Spanish Cup. Okay.
- 37:46And it's already on the calendar. And then there are some other races in Italy.
- 37:53So I just want to see what comes around.
- 37:57Because I know it's like the races decide are more competitive than in Uganda.
- 38:05And the peloton is
- 38:08always big and I just
- 38:12want to see how my first race will go around because I've already had a chance
- 38:17to participate within the field of over 200 participants and it was mind-blowing
- 38:25for me and I was quite nervous because it was my first time and that was in
- 38:30the world championships.
- 38:34So everything is a surprise for me. And are you mainly doing road or are you
- 38:39also doing some gravel races?
- 38:42Mainly for now I'm on the road. Okay.
- 38:47And going through this experience from Uganda to Girona in being in a world
- 38:53tour team, what do you think it needs to change to create more opportunities
- 38:58for African cyclists, especially females?
- 39:03It's like, for now, I'm still in the generation team.
- 39:07For now, I'm still in the generation team. Yeah. But all I wish for is like
- 39:15talking about cycling back in Uganda,
- 39:19it's a sport that people don't give too much attention and.
- 39:26If you're taking cycling as your career and you live in Uganda,
- 39:32it's much better you get to somewhere where they value cycling much more.
- 39:37And all I wish for, whenever I watch races, I hope to, like,
- 39:42first, because I know getting to where I dream of being is that it has to go through steps.
- 39:49And all I wish for was getting a continental team to nurture me.
- 39:56Through the steps and coming to Canyon Swarm Racing Generation Team,
- 40:02I hoped and believed that I would get the best out of me through the team.
- 40:09Because they have a good environment and they kind of provide everything in
- 40:14a good environment for a cyclist.
- 40:17And hoping with
- 40:21the things that I see and the
- 40:24coaches I'm having I saw it
- 40:26because trainings here different and
- 40:31I loved it because
- 40:34it's like Uganda is a flat
- 40:37country mostly and looking
- 40:40at the races that I always watched they're
- 40:44always mixed and they're always climbs so
- 40:47I'm not gonna expect flat races and all
- 40:51I decided to do was that the trainings
- 40:55that I have to do because home I was
- 40:58always doing the flats and try to go for camps in some areas that are hilly
- 41:03but if it comes to Spain where I live mostly here in Girona the routes that
- 41:10I take I prefer taking much more of the hilly courses because.
- 41:17I say if you're to achieve a goal, it's like use your enemy as your target.
- 41:30So I always go for climbs more than flats because all I know is that the thing
- 41:37I want to work on is my climbing abilities.
- 41:41So to unlock them, I have to go for the climbs mostly.
- 41:47You are so driven i love it and
- 41:50it's so true you know you gotta make your
- 41:53how did you say your enemies you know you gotta target that you just gotta target
- 41:58that and and i'm sure you're doing a great job at it and i can't wait to see
- 42:02what's next for you but you said you know uganda is flat which is so funny because
- 42:07you are neighbors with rwanda which is the country of a thousand hills How does that happen?
- 42:13Yeah, it's like we are just in between. I would say we are in between.
- 42:18Kenya is having much of the hills.
- 42:22And then if it comes to Rwanda, it's mostly hilly. Yeah.
- 42:28And then if I'm to do the trainings, because mostly in the place where I would
- 42:35call it the province where I live, it's mostly flat.
- 42:39So, if I'm to do some trainings and I'm preparing for a specific event,
- 42:46I will have to look for an area that is much of the hills.
- 42:53So, sometimes there is another province that is close to the,
- 42:57because we share a border with Rwanda.
- 43:00So, I always go and camp close to the border with Rwanda, because from there,
- 43:07I can get some hills. And then sometimes I go to Kenya, all close to the border with Kenya.
- 43:15Nice, nice. Yeah. I've been to Rwanda and you only go up or down there.
- 43:20I don't think they have flat areas at all.
- 43:26Maybe within the city then you can find some flat flat, but not too flat again. Yeah, no, no.
- 43:34You only go up and down. Yeah, yeah. And do you see yourself as a role model
- 43:40for future generations of female cyclists in Uganda?
- 43:44Yeah, indeed. And as for now, I'll say that I'm proud of myself.
- 43:53You should be. I'm an inspiration to cyclists in Uganda.
- 43:59And what is much more making me much happier is that I'm not a role model to
- 44:07just only the girls but also boys that's true look and you achieved I think
- 44:14not only you are the first,
- 44:17uganda female rider to cross
- 44:20you know do this big jump to
- 44:24the european team but i think you're just just
- 44:27the first cyclist period not just you know female right yeah yeah sure and it's
- 44:33like already back in the home club i already inspired some other girls to join
- 44:41cycling and now they are looking back to the community,
- 44:45it's now trying to adapt with the situation and they're now providing,
- 44:51starting to provide a good environment for the girls in cycling and starting
- 44:56to trust their children in cycling.
- 45:01And by now, there are more than 15 girls within the home club doing the cycling. Amazing.
- 45:11And already one of them is already also taking part in the UCI development program. Wow.
- 45:20Amazing. So, yeah, I think not only you inspire kids and, you know,
- 45:27young adults, but I think you also have been a catalyst for change in development.
- 45:34Federations there or any cycling team, the training centers,
- 45:39because now they are more open to having female cyclists and younger cyclists
- 45:43to develop them because you brought so much hope that this actually can happen.
- 45:48Yeah, actually, I'm happy about the changes that are going on because before
- 45:53girls were not being cared of and even organizing events within Uganda,
- 45:58they always mostly organize events for
- 46:01boys and seeing that i'm getting
- 46:05more competitive i always try to
- 46:08interfere i'll call it interfere with
- 46:10their programs because i i it always hurted me seeing the cycling calendar for
- 46:18the year and looking at it the most races are for the men and looking for the
- 46:26women i could not see anything of that sort.
- 46:30And I had to always look for the people making the calendar within the Federation
- 46:35and try to speak to some people coming from the Federation to have some changes
- 46:40because I saw we should also be cared and things are now changing. So I'm more happy.
- 46:49Absolutely. And congratulations. I mean,
- 46:52I am so happy to see you doing what you love You definitely worked hard to be where you are,
- 47:00and it is amazing how much positive change you have brought to your country
- 47:06and to many little girls' and boys' lives.
- 47:09Amazing. Thank you.
- 47:12Florence, it's been so great to talk to you. I'm so happy to have you on the podcast.
- 47:18I'm even happier to know that you are right here in Girona, and hopefully we
- 47:21can see each other more often.
- 47:23Yeah, very soon. Florence, your story is incredibly inspiring,
- 47:29not just for cyclists, but for anyone chasing their dreams against the odds.
- 47:35Thank you for sharing your journey.
- 47:37To all our listeners, make sure to follow Florence and support her incredible career.
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