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- 0:00Speaker 1: M h.
- 0:11Speaker 2: I want to see what it means for about Brice Young,
- 0:14Speaker 2: because there are some pockets, uh around this organization, around
- 0:20Speaker 2: Bryce that I think always felt like maybe analysis was
- 0:25Speaker 2: a little too restrictively.
- 0:28Speaker 3: It didn't have enough shot plays generalizing it. But that
- 0:34Speaker 3: was sort of the main argument here. And so doesn't
- 0:39Speaker 3: mean it's it's gonna come out and like become you
- 0:43Speaker 3: John coriol that's a deal.
- 0:48Speaker 4: But but no, but I do think there is a.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Comfort level with with Bryce Young and Brad it's.
- 0:54Speaker 4: It that's important.
- 0:57Speaker 5: That is Joe Person on The Athletic Football Show, they
- 1:02Speaker 5: did a preview on there of the Panthers. Robert Mays,
- 1:05Speaker 5: the host, brought Joe Person on good chunk of Panthers
- 1:08Speaker 5: talk there on that podcast. But I thought what Joe
- 1:12Speaker 5: said there is interesting bone, especially in light of the
- 1:15Speaker 5: fact that it was last week when I asked Canalis
- 1:20Speaker 5: about Bryce's efficiency throwing the deep ball. I don't know
- 1:24Speaker 5: if anybody has heard me mention this, but pff HadAM
- 1:26Speaker 5: Bone is the highest created deep ball car know how
- 1:30Speaker 5: many people have heard that, But anyway, and so it
- 1:34Speaker 5: was a very efficient when he would throw it deep.
- 1:37Speaker 5: But he threw it the twenty second most times downfield,
- 1:41Speaker 5: and I asked, coach, is that something that you have
- 1:43Speaker 5: to change give more deep shots? And his answer was interesting.
- 1:46Speaker 5: Canalis basically said, that's why it's efficient. We don't force it,
- 1:52Speaker 5: We do it when it's there. So that led me
- 1:55Speaker 5: to believe, well, dang, coach doesn't really unless he's playing poker,
- 1:59Speaker 5: coach doesn't really want to sling that thing downfield the
- 2:02Speaker 5: way we do. Because I just think I think they've
- 2:05Speaker 5: got to throw it down field more. But that's interesting
- 2:07Speaker 5: to hear Joe person say there are people in the building, Brad,
- 2:10Speaker 5: it's it might be one of them that think, yes,
- 2:13Speaker 5: we've got to not be so conservative with Bryce.
- 2:16Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why we were so excited for brasl to
- 2:19Speaker 6: be in there, because we thought he was a guy
- 2:22Speaker 6: that would allow them to be that way to open
- 2:25Speaker 6: things up a little bit. So even if it wasn't
- 2:27Speaker 6: even making plays, just him open it up, his presence
- 2:32Speaker 6: was going to be huge. That's what sucks about no
- 2:34Speaker 6: brasel out there.
- 2:35Speaker 5: So Baker Mayfield turned down two years, one hundred plus million.
- 2:41Speaker 5: I'm hoping that Brad Agsick can help Bryce make that
- 2:44Speaker 5: next step bone to where maybe the Panthers feel like
- 2:48Speaker 5: giving him money, and maybe we feel like, yes, it's
- 2:51Speaker 5: time to pay him. It's time to give him that money.
- 2:54Speaker 5: If Baker turned down two years one hundred to one
- 2:57Speaker 5: hundred and five or so million dollars, what do we
- 3:01Speaker 5: think it's going to take for Bright to sign Bryce
- 3:05Speaker 5: next year? I guess it depends Bone on the type
- 3:08Speaker 5: of season that Bryce had. Fifty million dollars would make
- 3:13Speaker 5: Bryce Like, let's just say he got fifty million a year,
- 3:16Speaker 5: that would make him the thirteenth highest paid quarterback in
- 3:19Speaker 5: the NFL. What do you think Bone about that? Because
- 3:24Speaker 5: I do feel like there is some sticker shock. We're
- 3:26Speaker 5: not even buying the car yet. We've just looked at
- 3:28Speaker 5: the sticker on a possible Bryce extension, and I think
- 3:32Speaker 5: a lot of us have been like, oh my gosh,
- 3:34Speaker 5: fifty million?
- 3:36Speaker 4: Is he worth it? Is he worth using up that
- 3:38Speaker 4: much of your cap? Pie?
- 3:39Speaker 5: Like, what do you think Bone, a contract extension for
- 3:43Speaker 5: Bryce could look like?
- 3:45Speaker 4: Is he somewhere in that range?
- 3:47Speaker 6: We're talking about that forty five to fifty million dollars
- 3:51Speaker 6: a year, and I'm basing that off of some of
- 3:54Speaker 6: the other guys that are in that neighborhood. It's it's Mayfield,
- 3:58Speaker 6: it's Darnold, it's Malik Willis is at forty five. Malie
- 4:02Speaker 6: Willis is in that neighborhood as well. Malik's aid twenty
- 4:05Speaker 6: two million a year. Okay, twenty five. It's a guarantee
- 4:08Speaker 6: I was working to guaranteed.
- 4:09Speaker 4: Okay.
- 4:09Speaker 6: I'm looking at maybe the range of guys of where
- 4:12Speaker 6: he falls in. I think it's into that the Daniel
- 4:15Speaker 6: Jones area. It's he's forty four million years that area
- 4:18Speaker 6: of quarterback that I think Bryce falls into right there.
- 4:22Speaker 6: What the number is exactly like you said, it depends
- 4:24Speaker 6: on the year. It could go either way. I think
- 4:27Speaker 6: Bryce is going to have a good year. But that's
- 4:29Speaker 6: not a guarantee. But I do think he's in that.
- 4:32Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not counting to Shaun Watson there. He's
- 4:34Speaker 6: a different category of he made forty six million season
- 4:38Speaker 6: his own some of the worst.
- 4:39Speaker 4: Money ever spend, that good thing we never wanted.
- 4:42Speaker 6: In that Jones, Donald Mayfield, Willis area of where they
- 4:46Speaker 6: rank in terms of the league's quarterback contracts.
- 4:48Speaker 4: I think he falls into that category.
- 4:49Speaker 5: Okay, Well, Malik Willis is twenty two million a year,
- 4:52Speaker 5: Baker's thirty three million a year, Donald thirty three million
- 4:54Speaker 5: a year. Yeah, the Donald and Baker thirty three million
- 4:57Speaker 5: a year is the one that I keep using that
- 4:59Speaker 5: they should offer to him right now. He probably would
- 5:01Speaker 5: turn it down. Those those guys are underpaid at thirty
- 5:04Speaker 5: three million a year. Then you start to get up
- 5:07Speaker 5: Bone to the area where you were talking about with
- 5:10Speaker 5: Daniel Jones getting forty four million a year, DeShawn forty
- 5:12Speaker 5: six million year, Jalen Hurts fifty one, Lamar fifty two.
- 5:18Speaker 5: If we if Bryce Young throws thirty touchdown passes this year,
- 5:22Speaker 5: career high, throws for a career high in passing yards,
- 5:27Speaker 5: Bone thirty let's say thirty six hundred something like that,
- 5:30Speaker 5: and the Panthers win the division? Again, is he worth
- 5:36Speaker 5: fifty million dollars a year then, like, cause we're gonna
- 5:43Speaker 5: get to the point Bone like once Baker signs a
- 5:45Speaker 5: new deal, either in Tampa or elsewhere. I mean, I
- 5:48Speaker 5: feel like he's gonna be up a like. I feel
- 5:50Speaker 5: like we're getting close and there's a bunch of other
- 5:52Speaker 5: young quarterbacks what's used to gonna do with Stroud?
- 5:55Speaker 4: I think we're getting close to the.
- 5:56Speaker 6: Point we got Caleb, You've got Daniels, You've got May,
- 5:59Speaker 6: You've got all a lot of dudes, cam Ward. Eventually,
- 6:02Speaker 6: you've got a lot of guys that are going to
- 6:04Speaker 6: be that are going to be grouped in there with Bryce,
- 6:07Speaker 6: that are coming up with the next time.
- 6:08Speaker 5: Their extension eligible. Those guys you mentioned are extension eligible
- 6:12Speaker 5: this year after the third year, Caleb Williams, Drake May,
- 6:15Speaker 5: and Jane Daniels. I think what I'm trying to say here,
- 6:18Speaker 5: Bone is I have a feeling it's not going to
- 6:21Speaker 5: be too long before half the league gets fifty million
- 6:24Speaker 5: dollars a year. So if you think you have a
- 6:26Speaker 5: top half quarterback, you give him fifty million dollars a year.
- 6:30Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's what Bryce should get if it
- 6:35Speaker 6: all goes well. I know I've done the word if
- 6:37Speaker 6: in there. If there's some meltdown that happens where Bryce
- 6:41Speaker 6: reverts back to the negatives that we've seen at times,
- 6:45Speaker 6: then obviously that discussion changes. If Bryce has as good
- 6:49Speaker 6: of a year as I think he can have that,
- 6:51Speaker 6: I think fifty million dollars is the price for doing business.
- 6:54Speaker 4: So and it does fear you look at the text
- 6:57Speaker 4: line and again.
- 6:57Speaker 6: He could also don't mess that up, Bryce and go
- 6:59Speaker 6: out there and have a complete meltdown, and all of
- 7:01Speaker 6: a sudden, the Baker Mayfield discussion has become real because
- 7:05Speaker 6: you had a horrible year. I'm not predicting that, but
- 7:08Speaker 6: it's it's not guaranteed that Bryce has a great year.
- 7:11Speaker 4: I know, I don't think. I can't imagine it being
- 7:15Speaker 4: horrible though, you know what I mean, don't. I can't
- 7:18Speaker 4: imagine it being a horrible year.
- 7:20Speaker 5: I guess the question is, like, I don't know, everybody
- 7:25Speaker 5: that's texting in right now has sticker shock like they
- 7:28Speaker 5: like everybody texting right now is like, hell no, we
- 7:30Speaker 5: don't pay Bryce fifty million a year. But I think
- 7:32Speaker 5: the point we're trying to make is fifty million dollars
- 7:34Speaker 5: a year is not what maybe you're used to thinking
- 7:37Speaker 5: fifty million dollars. The cap goes up every year, and
- 7:42Speaker 5: these quarterback contracts are gonna keep going up. I just
- 7:47Speaker 5: we gotta let the year play out, like, because I
- 7:49Speaker 5: right now don't I wouldn't pay Bryce fifty million dollars
- 7:52Speaker 5: a year right now. This is a huge prove it
- 7:54Speaker 5: year for him. You also have him bone for the
- 7:57Speaker 5: fifth year at twenty six million, very very ardable rate.
- 8:01Speaker 5: You could make him pay out ears fifth year. You
- 8:03Speaker 5: could make him play his fifth year out and see
- 8:05Speaker 5: what happens, and then you have the franchise tag after
- 8:08Speaker 5: that for a couple of So there is a scenario
- 8:10Speaker 5: two where you don't even have to give him a
- 8:13Speaker 5: deal this coming off season and you can have him
- 8:16Speaker 5: under team control using two years of a franchise tag
- 8:19Speaker 5: into his year seven season. So there's that there's that
- 8:23Speaker 5: option as well.
- 8:24Speaker 6: I guess the risk with that, and it's not a
- 8:26Speaker 6: bad risk maybe, but the risk with that would be
- 8:29Speaker 6: all the other guys will get their deals and then
- 8:32Speaker 6: if Bryce goes completely bonkers and balls out when you're
- 8:35Speaker 6: looking at maybe seventy.
- 8:36Speaker 4: Million, then you go in.
- 8:37Speaker 6: Then you're going away above what you thought. So that's
- 8:39Speaker 6: that that would be the risk with waiting that volt.
- 8:42Speaker 5: That's a good point too, whereas like fifty million, like
- 8:47Speaker 5: eventually that's not good. That's middle of the pack money
- 8:50Speaker 5: for quarterback. It's gonna be middle of the pack money.
- 8:52Speaker 5: Like I said, we're very close to half the league
- 8:54Speaker 5: getting fifty million, and then bone in five years, what's
- 8:57Speaker 5: fifty million gonna look like? You know, you could be
- 9:00Speaker 5: the twenty second, twenty third eye. You know, so they're
- 9:02Speaker 5: only going up. So I don't know. It's it's it's
- 9:06Speaker 5: a tough conversation to have, but it's an interesting conversation
- 9:10Speaker 5: to have as well. What do y'all think Baker Mayfield
- 9:13Speaker 5: turned down a two year reported two year, one hundred
- 9:17Speaker 5: to one hundred five million dollar deal. What do you
- 9:19Speaker 5: think a contract extension looks like for Bryce Young? I
- 9:23Speaker 5: just again, I need to point out to everybody bone
- 9:27Speaker 5: that is saying And I like the way.
- 9:28Speaker 4: They've handled this.
- 9:29Speaker 5: I like the wait and see approach, but I do
- 9:33Speaker 5: need to point out to everybody that is ripping Bryce
- 9:35Speaker 5: Young on the text line right now saying he's not
- 9:37Speaker 5: worth fifty million a year. You guys do realize that
- 9:41Speaker 5: you're re entering the quarterback lottery right like guys on
- 9:45Speaker 5: here saying just draft somebody. You do realize that's buying
- 9:48Speaker 5: a lottery ticket. And then you got to start all
- 9:50Speaker 5: over again with a rookie learning curve. And then I
- 9:53Speaker 5: saw somebody else on here go after others. There are
- 9:56Speaker 5: some go after Baker Mayfield. Do you what do you
- 10:00Speaker 5: think about that bone? I forget what it was. There
- 10:02Speaker 5: was one website that had a list of like five
- 10:04Speaker 5: teams that should be monitoring the Baker Mayfield situation if
- 10:08Speaker 5: he hits free agency next year and the Panthers were
- 10:10Speaker 5: on the list. We've got a couple of Texters that
- 10:13Speaker 5: have just said, why don't we just signed Baker Mayfield
- 10:15Speaker 5: and give him the years he wants. What do you
- 10:18Speaker 5: think about that, Bony? There's two things about that. I
- 10:22Speaker 5: would say.
- 10:23Speaker 6: I'm not saying zero percent chance because it goes back
- 10:27Speaker 6: to what we just said about if Bryce had a
- 10:29Speaker 6: horrible year and it opened things up, then obviously anything
- 10:33Speaker 6: could happen with the quarterback market. Not a prediction, just
- 10:37Speaker 6: going that Devil's advocate route saying how Bryce, excuse me,
- 10:41Speaker 6: Baker would make sense. The only issue with this is
- 10:44Speaker 6: I don't think Baker mac really likes the Panther organization
- 10:47Speaker 6: very much, not that those guys.
- 10:48Speaker 4: Are here anymore.
- 10:49Speaker 6: But in Baker's mind, he sees Carolina and it goes
- 10:52Speaker 6: back to Steve Wilkson all those times PTSD.
- 10:55Speaker 4: I don't know I.
- 10:56Speaker 6: Think Baker would view that as a career going not
- 11:01Speaker 6: that I'm saying, but his mind he viewed that going
- 11:03Speaker 6: backwards to where was negative for him. I don't think
- 11:06Speaker 6: Baker would even sign here.
- 11:07Speaker 5: Honestly, he has he has a condition that a lot
- 11:09Speaker 5: of us Panther fans have. He has pp SD post
- 11:13Speaker 5: panther traumatic stress disorder. Right whereas we have been.
- 11:17Speaker 4: Put through so much traumas Panther fans, we could revert
- 11:20Speaker 4: back to those memories.
- 11:22Speaker 5: You're right, he had the low career here. So what
- 11:25Speaker 5: medication you use for that would go v what's the
- 11:27Speaker 5: I haven't.
- 11:28Speaker 4: Found it yet. If y'all find a good one for
- 11:30Speaker 4: our pps D, let me know. I guess right now,
- 11:33Speaker 4: maybe Canalis and Dan Morgan are the medicine because they
- 11:36Speaker 4: are helping us feel better. The agent says, hey, you
- 11:39Speaker 4: want to be a Panther. He's not. He's not gonna.
- 11:41Speaker 4: He's not gonna want.
- 11:42Speaker 5: You would have You would have to really outbid everybody,
- 11:46Speaker 5: you know what I mean?
- 11:47Speaker 4: Would there be a panther tax on it? Going back
- 11:49Speaker 4: to Carolina text?
- 11:51Speaker 5: So, I don't know that's an interesting part if you
- 11:53Speaker 5: just looked at it from a football standpoint, I mean.
- 11:58Speaker 4: How old is Baker now?
- 11:59Speaker 7: Bone?
- 12:00Speaker 4: I guess I could just google that. I don't know
- 12:01Speaker 4: why I asked. James Zager was.
- 12:03Speaker 6: Drafted in twenty eighth, guess twenty eighteen thirty one.
- 12:07Speaker 4: Yeah, like Bryce is way younger. That's the thing. Your bet.
- 12:11Speaker 4: Bryce is way younger.
- 12:13Speaker 5: But it's a question of will Bryce play as good
- 12:15Speaker 5: as Baker at his best. I think he can get
- 12:18Speaker 5: to that different sort of quarterback, a lot safer, not
- 12:21Speaker 5: as not as you know, much of a gun slinger.
- 12:25Speaker 4: But I still believe Bryce can get.
- 12:26Speaker 5: Into the top ten or twelve quarterbacks over the next
- 12:29Speaker 5: few years.
- 12:30Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:31Speaker 5: I still do believe that is possible. But this year
- 12:34Speaker 5: he's got to bring it. He's got to make a
- 12:35Speaker 5: jump this year, man. Yeah, and I think you will.
- 12:38Speaker 5: I think he will. I do think he will make
- 12:41Speaker 5: that jump this year. I don't know if I so.
- 12:43Speaker 5: The year's difference really favors Bryce. For me, having a
- 12:47Speaker 5: younger quarterback rattan having a thirty one year old that
- 12:49Speaker 5: we just talked about Bone gets every body part beat
- 12:51Speaker 5: up through the course of the season.
- 12:53Speaker 6: Do you know what Mac hurts some of these quarterback
- 12:55Speaker 6: contracts coming up here. I know that he wins a
- 12:58Speaker 6: lot and he's a good courtquarterback, but the amount of
- 13:01Speaker 6: money that brock Party makes is really gonna mess with
- 13:04Speaker 6: some of these other guys, isn't it because they're gonna
- 13:06Speaker 6: look at Rock Party and think I could do that
- 13:09Speaker 6: in a Shanahan offense.
- 13:10Speaker 4: I know that he wins and he's good for the Niners.
- 13:13Speaker 6: Brock Party's maybe fifty three million, he's a top five
- 13:15Speaker 6: and overall overall contract.
- 13:17Speaker 4: Though, isn't he? Isn't he talk?
- 13:18Speaker 5: He is ninth, ninth highest paid and average vout. Okay,
- 13:22Speaker 5: you're saying over overall he's like fifth though. I yeah,
- 13:24Speaker 5: he got a two hundred and sixty five million dollar deal.
- 13:26Speaker 5: He got one hundred and eighty two million guaranteed.
- 13:29Speaker 4: I think Trevor Lawrence is right there too with him.
- 13:32Speaker 4: So Rock Party.
- 13:33Speaker 6: These quarterbacks coming up are looking at Rock Party thinking,
- 13:36Speaker 6: am I not better than that guy? That's gonna be
- 13:38Speaker 6: a problem for someone like Baker Mayfield, back to me,
- 13:40Speaker 6: is a better quarterback. I'd rather have Baker Mayfield went
- 13:43Speaker 6: healthy than Brock Party.
- 13:45Speaker 5: Are you just doing this because Niners Eddy is bothering
- 13:47Speaker 5: you on the text line about Brock Party right now?
- 13:49Speaker 4: Yes, seven Party is good, but he's making great.
- 13:53Speaker 5: Money seven O four five, seven oh nine six ten
- 13:56Speaker 5: if y'all want to jump in here, But again, I
- 14:00Speaker 5: would argue bone, he's ninth highest paid a fifty three
- 14:03Speaker 5: million a year. That's the probably range he should be at.
- 14:07Speaker 5: If we're sitting here saying, if Bryce has a good year,
- 14:09Speaker 5: pay him fifty million.
- 14:10Speaker 4: Dollars a year or more. We can't get mad that
- 14:13Speaker 4: brock Perty's got fifty three million, right.
- 14:15Speaker 6: I'm just saying that the other quarterbacks are gonna look
- 14:18Speaker 6: at what he is and they're gonna want above him.
- 14:21Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I mean Trevor Lawrence is getting fifty
- 14:23Speaker 5: five million a year.
- 14:24Speaker 6: It's been an up and down career for him to
- 14:26Speaker 6: this pint all on shampoos and conditioners. Most most teams,
- 14:32Speaker 6: if you have a good quarterback, you don't you pay
- 14:36Speaker 6: him because the alternative is, oh crap, I'm out there
- 14:41Speaker 6: in quarterback never Never Land, searching in the forest for
- 14:45Speaker 6: one and I may end up with a turn.
- 14:47Speaker 4: You know what I mean. Like that's the thing.
- 14:50Speaker 5: So like, so it's like, if Bryce can get it
- 14:53Speaker 5: to a level where you feel like he's in the
- 14:55Speaker 5: neighborhood as some of those guys, you probably have to
- 14:59Speaker 5: pay him for the fear of like those of you
- 15:02Speaker 5: that hate Bryce and think he should not get any
- 15:04Speaker 5: money any extension anything, that he should pay the Panthers
- 15:06Speaker 5: to work for them, like he should be on an
- 15:09Speaker 5: unpaid internship. Those of you that feel like, no, we
- 15:12Speaker 5: can't pay Bryce, don't y'all remember what it's like to
- 15:15Speaker 5: be out there and quarterback never never Land. It ain't
- 15:19Speaker 5: a guarantee you we all of a sudden end up
- 15:21Speaker 5: with the next Pat Mahomes.
- 15:22Speaker 6: Zach and Miami often has some of the worst tastes
- 15:25Speaker 6: on the text line says Baker was the worst Panther
- 15:27Speaker 6: quarterback they've ever had. Oh, sir, don't you dare disrespect
- 15:31Speaker 6: Jimmy claws in with that, with that.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Take Bryan Saint Pierre played for this, play for this friend.
- 15:37Speaker 5: Rist Winkey just said, Hey, don't forget what I accomplished here.
- 15:40Speaker 5: Raby Fossani would like to learn the zero point zero
- 15:44Speaker 5: blue Tarski QB rating for a game. Oh my god,
- 15:48Speaker 5: we've had a lot of suckage here.
- 15:49Speaker 4: Don't disrespect them. I will say that.
- 15:51Speaker 5: A couple of texts making instries point though about Baker
- 15:54Speaker 5: and Carolina and I don't know why why am I
- 15:56Speaker 5: doing this? I would much rather because of the age,
- 15:58Speaker 5: have Bryce. I want Bryce to play well and earn
- 16:00Speaker 5: this fifty million or so, multiple people pointing out that
- 16:06Speaker 5: Canalis was the quarterback bone in Tampa or was the
- 16:11Speaker 5: coordinator for Baker's big season there when he kind of
- 16:16Speaker 5: righted the ship. So somebody says, could Canalis convince Baker
- 16:21Speaker 5: to come back to the site of his trauma here
- 16:24Speaker 5: in Charlotte, North Carolina?
- 16:26Speaker 6: Unless Baker says, no, Canalis cut me and just blames
- 16:29Speaker 6: everybody for cutting him.
- 16:32Speaker 5: You would think he'd remember het What do he sayd
- 16:34Speaker 5: about Canalis? Optimist bully, Yes, he loved Canalis. He did
- 16:39Speaker 5: love him, So that is a fair point there. Let's
- 16:42Speaker 5: see here, Fitty, where is your take on all this?
- 16:46Speaker 5: Bryce Young, This dude says, are these buffoons not realizing
- 16:50Speaker 5: that fifty million dollars in five years will look like
- 16:54Speaker 5: nothing to a quarterback?
- 16:55Speaker 4: That's the point I think Bone and I were trying
- 16:57Speaker 4: to make. How do you feel about all this?
- 17:01Speaker 1: Obviously, as a big fan of Bryce and a big
- 17:04Speaker 1: believer in him, Mac, I think he's gonna play at
- 17:06Speaker 1: a level where we're going to offer him a respectable
- 17:09Speaker 1: contract offer. But Mac, if we're talking north of forty
- 17:13Speaker 1: five in that closer to fifty.
- 17:15Speaker 8: Million dollar range, you named.
- 17:17Speaker 1: All those quarterbacks are like paid in that in that
- 17:19Speaker 1: kind of in that in that price range.
- 17:21Speaker 8: What do they all have in common? They all wont
- 17:23Speaker 8: playoff games.
- 17:24Speaker 1: So like that would suggest to me we either repeat
- 17:27Speaker 1: his division champs or we get it as a wild
- 17:30Speaker 1: card and Bryce wins a playoff game. And that's been
- 17:34Speaker 1: my prediction as the leader of the ten win wagon.
- 17:38Speaker 1: I think that they will win this division. They will
- 17:40Speaker 1: advance to you.
- 17:42Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm still the leader.
- 17:43Speaker 4: I may have dropped. Wait, here's the thing about right now?
- 17:46Speaker 4: Your record, says Fitty question Mark, Well scaredy cat.
- 17:50Speaker 1: After fan fest, I wanted to make it know when
- 17:52Speaker 1: I'm back at the eleven at the eleven win Mark.
- 17:54Speaker 4: Because they fight against each other.
- 17:57Speaker 1: After the third back shoulder throw that Bryce made it
- 18:00Speaker 1: to look beautiful, I'm back on the eleven wind wagon.
- 18:02Speaker 4: He was hitting some back shoulders. Man, if he puts
- 18:05Speaker 4: that consistently in his back. But Mac, I'm still gonna
- 18:08Speaker 4: say that.
- 18:08Speaker 1: I think if they offer him like anywhere close to
- 18:11Speaker 1: forty million dollars, I think they're offering him something that's
- 18:15Speaker 1: very very fair. On the flip side, Mac, if if
- 18:20Speaker 1: this doesn't go right, if this doesn't go well, and
- 18:23Speaker 1: Dan Morgan does decide, hey, this is not the quarterback
- 18:25Speaker 1: I want to invest in. The roster is in a
- 18:27Speaker 1: better position to do that definitely. Then it was when
- 18:30Speaker 1: Scott Fitterer said, we're a quarterback away.
- 18:32Speaker 5: Yeah, we could just drop a quarterback in be a
- 18:34Speaker 5: great team. E Laser eyes. You had to swing him
- 18:39Speaker 5: and miss that laser eyes.
- 18:40Speaker 4: Mac talking back shoulder. It's Fitty. It's not Cherry Knipple
- 18:43Speaker 4: this time around.
- 18:44Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta tell you I do the only shoulders
- 18:47Speaker 5: I like better, or the back shoulder passes. Man, There's
- 18:49Speaker 5: something beautiful about a back shoulder pass. It is like
- 18:52Speaker 5: indefensible when thrown correctly, when the receiver knows how to
- 18:56Speaker 5: use his body. And Fitty's right. He had TMAC on one,
- 19:00Speaker 5: hit XL on one, and XL got the feed in.
- 19:03Speaker 5: If he can, oh god, if he can start hitting that.
- 19:06Speaker 5: This text says seven O four number.
- 19:08Speaker 4: I'd give him to Daniel Jones special two years, eighty
- 19:12Speaker 4: eight million dollars. I don't.
- 19:13Speaker 5: I think Bryce is looking like Baker and Tampa. I
- 19:16Speaker 5: think Bryce is looking for more years than two years.
- 19:20Speaker 4: Right.
- 19:20Speaker 6: When we come back, we get Luke Keighley appreciation. We
- 19:24Speaker 6: go in a lot of interviews, a lot of coverage
- 19:26Speaker 6: of Luke Keikley go to the Hall of Fame on
- 19:28Speaker 6: Saturday and can Steve Speck saw him first before we
- 19:33Speaker 6: all did in high school. Keekley's high school football coach,
- 19:37Speaker 6: Steve Speck joins back and I next for an assessment
- 19:41Speaker 6: of what young Luke was why.
- 19:42Speaker 4: On Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
- 20:01Speaker 5: Sports Your Radio ninety twenty seven WFNZ, we are reminiscing
- 20:06Speaker 5: about our Friday night out.
- 20:08Speaker 4: On the town.
- 20:09Speaker 5: It doesn't happen often that all three of us are out,
- 20:11Speaker 5: and about Panther fan Fest gave us a reason to
- 20:14Speaker 5: get together. Still, we had a blast. Still exhausted, you
- 20:18Speaker 5: wore yourself out. Be it out to like ten o'clock.
- 20:21Speaker 5: Bone gotcha. I got home. I got home. It was
- 20:25Speaker 5: like nine to forty and my wife is like, oh
- 20:28Speaker 5: my god, why are you home. You're home so early.
- 20:30Speaker 5: It was like sheer disappointment that I was home.
- 20:32Speaker 4: She was like here, I thought that she was missing
- 20:34Speaker 4: our Friday night TV time together.
- 20:36Speaker 5: She's sitting there reading a book, upset that I got home.
- 20:40Speaker 5: Oh my god. Anyway, love you too, there, missus. Mac
- 20:43Speaker 5: let's uh, let's someone else we love bone, Luke Keikley.
- 20:47Speaker 5: And this is Luke Keighley Appreciation Week here on The
- 20:50Speaker 5: Mack and Bone Show and really quite frankly on WFNZ.
- 20:53Speaker 5: He's going into Hall of Fame on Saturday. We can't
- 20:56Speaker 5: freaking wait to hear the speech, and all week long
- 21:01Speaker 5: we want to let you hear from people who know
- 21:03Speaker 5: Luke and can you put it into their words? What
- 21:06Speaker 5: makes Luke so special? Next hour at A twenty five,
- 21:09Speaker 5: it's going to be Kirk Coleman, his former teammate with
- 21:11Speaker 5: the Panthers. Right now, it is Steve Speckt. He is
- 21:15Speaker 5: a head coach at Saint Xavier in Cincinnati. He's won
- 21:17Speaker 5: four state titles there. One of them was with Luke Keigley.
- 21:22Speaker 5: And the first thing I wanted to ask him is
- 21:24Speaker 5: at what point was it in Luke's high school career
- 21:28Speaker 5: where you realize, man, we got somebody really special here.
- 21:32Speaker 7: It really wasn't until his junior year. He was had
- 21:37Speaker 7: an ankle in issue with sophomore year and he wasn't
- 21:40Speaker 7: playing a whole lot. He was actually a tight end.
- 21:43Speaker 7: And then his junior year, man, we were loaded. I
- 21:47Speaker 7: think we had the best team in the country that year.
- 21:49Speaker 7: We were either ranked one or two, and we had
- 21:52Speaker 7: eleven guys. We had fifteen guys coming back from the
- 21:56Speaker 7: two thousand and six season on defense. I mean, guys
- 22:00Speaker 7: had played a bunch and it was an incredibly talented group.
- 22:04Speaker 7: And after about a week of mini camp my defensive
- 22:09Speaker 7: coordinator Tim McDonald says to me, he says, we got
- 22:12Speaker 7: to get this kid on the field, and it was man.
- 22:16Speaker 7: You talk about being a difference maker from the get
- 22:20Speaker 7: go for us, Luke was something special that year on
- 22:22Speaker 7: a team loaded with just great players.
- 22:26Speaker 6: Coach, it's hard for us to see Luke at anything
- 22:28Speaker 6: other than linebacker. Was he any good at tight end?
- 22:32Speaker 7: Yeah? He Actually his senior year he went both ways
- 22:36Speaker 7: for us, and we moved him to safety. Strangely enough,
- 22:38Speaker 7: he played what we call an adjuster position. He's really
- 22:42Speaker 7: a quarterback of the defense lines in the middle of
- 22:45Speaker 7: a field, about seven yards off the ball, and he
- 22:47Speaker 7: just tracks ball carriers. Luke was made for that position,
- 22:51Speaker 7: but he played safety and he played tight end. Hardly
- 22:54Speaker 7: ever came off the field his senior year.
- 22:57Speaker 5: Did he have the gift like back then of being
- 23:00Speaker 5: able to diagnose plays and know what's coming, because that's
- 23:04Speaker 5: one of the things that he is obviously known for,
- 23:07Speaker 5: you know, in his NFL career.
- 23:09Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. It's funny you asked that because I
- 23:13Speaker 7: gave a president I was given a clinic presentation a
- 23:16Speaker 7: couple of years back, and I was looking for pictures
- 23:19Speaker 7: of Luke and I found a picture of him from
- 23:22Speaker 7: high school where you could see him calling out, pointing
- 23:26Speaker 7: that you could see him directing traffic. And I found
- 23:29Speaker 7: a picture of him in college doing it the same thing,
- 23:32Speaker 7: and then a picture with Panthers doing the same thing
- 23:35Speaker 7: back to back to back. So he had been doing
- 23:37Speaker 7: it at a lower level at high school compared to
- 23:42Speaker 7: what he did with the Panthers. But man, you talk
- 23:44Speaker 7: about a young guy that studied the game, watched film.
- 23:48Speaker 7: The way he would watch film in high school was
- 23:51Speaker 7: different for me as a coach because he enjoyed it.
- 23:54Speaker 7: Most most high school kids, I t's we got fifteen
- 23:56Speaker 7: minutes of film and they want to get out. He'd
- 23:59Speaker 7: stayed longer. He'd ask to come in a coach, Can
- 24:02Speaker 7: I get can I see at lunch? Can we watch film?
- 24:04Speaker 7: He wanted to watch film all the time. It was
- 24:08Speaker 7: really it was really neat to watch the evolution because
- 24:12Speaker 7: he just improved every year into what he into obviously
- 24:17Speaker 7: what he is now.
- 24:18Speaker 6: Yeah, So, coach and reading about Luke in those years
- 24:20Speaker 6: lead you guys to that state title. Puts up phenomenal
- 24:24Speaker 6: numbers across the board on defense and I'm sure on offense,
- 24:28Speaker 6: as you said, they contributed to as a contributor as well.
- 24:31Speaker 6: Why was he only a three star recruit and the
- 24:35Speaker 6: forty fourth outside linebacker that year in the country. Looking
- 24:38Speaker 6: at it now, it seems impossible that there were that
- 24:41Speaker 6: many guys better than him.
- 24:43Speaker 7: Well, that's a great question. I think some of it is.
- 24:47Speaker 7: You know, he was long and lanky. He was he's
- 24:50Speaker 7: probably six foot two, six foot three at the time.
- 24:54Speaker 7: He wore a wire he did. He didn't look the part,
- 24:57Speaker 7: and I don't think playing him at safety, the you know,
- 25:01Speaker 7: didn't help a whole lot. A great quick story for
- 25:04Speaker 7: you and Jeff Monkin, who's the head coach at West Point. Now,
- 25:09Speaker 7: Jeff was with Georgia Tech and he was in recruiting
- 25:11Speaker 7: and I told him, I said, man, you got I said, coach,
- 25:14Speaker 7: you gotta look at my number three, Luke Keighley. He's
- 25:18Speaker 7: he's he's as good as anybody I've ever seen play
- 25:20Speaker 7: this game. He said, yeah, we watched and coach thought
- 25:24Speaker 7: he was a little stiff, and I was like, oh, okay.
- 25:27Speaker 7: Well fast forward. I was taking my son on a
- 25:30Speaker 7: tour of West Point. One of the coaches I knew
- 25:33Speaker 7: was giving us a tour and he said, hey, coach
- 25:35Speaker 7: Monkin can't be here today. He apologizes, no problem, no
- 25:39Speaker 7: big deal. We get the tour and here comes Jeff Monkin.
- 25:42Speaker 7: He comes out of the weight room. He says, coach,
- 25:44Speaker 7: I had to see. I said, I didn't think you
- 25:45Speaker 7: were going to be in today, and he said, ever
- 25:48Speaker 7: since I missed on Luke Keighley, anytime you have a
- 25:51Speaker 7: guy here, I'm going to make sure that I see
- 25:53Speaker 7: him in.
- 25:56Speaker 5: I love that he was not alone in underrating him.
- 26:00Speaker 5: Early on, we're talking with Steve Speck. He is a
- 26:03Speaker 5: head coach at Saint Xavier High School in Cincinnati. He
- 26:06Speaker 5: was Luke Keigley's coach in high school, and he's telling
- 26:09Speaker 5: him some great stories as Luke gets ready to go
- 26:11Speaker 5: to the Hall of Fame back in Ohio.
- 26:14Speaker 4: In Canton.
- 26:15Speaker 5: One of the things that I will say does drive
- 26:18Speaker 5: me crazy about Luke is how humble he is now. Listen,
- 26:22Speaker 5: it's awesome how humble he is. But man, now that
- 26:25Speaker 5: he's going into Hall of Fame, we want to hear
- 26:28Speaker 5: him talk about himself and he doesn't want to talk
- 26:30Speaker 5: about himself. And I know this doesn't surprise you. Coach.
- 26:34Speaker 5: Was he that way as a kid where you would
- 26:36Speaker 5: coach some kids that would get a little full of himself.
- 26:38Speaker 4: I can't imagine Luke was full of himself. Was he
- 26:41Speaker 4: that humble dude as a kid as well?
- 26:44Speaker 7: Always always coach, you wouldn't he was. The most I
- 26:50Speaker 7: ever heard Luke talk was when he was on the field. Yeah,
- 26:54Speaker 7: I mean he was very soft spoken. He led by example.
- 26:58Speaker 7: The kids followed his example. I mean more kids started
- 27:02Speaker 7: watching film because of the standard that Luke said. It
- 27:06Speaker 7: was like it became a standard of how to watch
- 27:09Speaker 7: film here. But Luke cares about people. He cares about
- 27:14Speaker 7: the team more than the individual. And I still to
- 27:18Speaker 7: this day, I think part of the reason Luke retired
- 27:23Speaker 7: so young is I don't think he felt he was
- 27:27Speaker 7: playing up to the standard he set for himself, even
- 27:31Speaker 7: though that he was playing better than almost all the
- 27:34Speaker 7: linebackers in the NFL. I really think that he thought
- 27:37Speaker 7: he was hurting his team because he couldn't play up
- 27:39Speaker 7: to the standard he set for himself to help his teammates.
- 27:43Speaker 7: I don't think Luke ever played the game just for
- 27:45Speaker 7: the tackles, for the Hall of Fame, for the awards.
- 27:47Speaker 7: He played the game for his teammates. And it was
- 27:51Speaker 7: that way in high school, and you saw it all
- 27:53Speaker 7: the way through the NFL coach.
- 27:55Speaker 6: We've heard from a teammate of his a story that
- 27:59Speaker 6: he told someone at the rookie symposium that he was
- 28:02Speaker 6: going to play eight when he was a rookie, that
- 28:05Speaker 6: he was going to play eight years and that'll probably
- 28:08Speaker 6: be enough. And then he played eight years and that
- 28:10Speaker 6: was enough. Are you are you surprised that that he
- 28:14Speaker 6: did not have a longer career or do you kind
- 28:16Speaker 6: of think, yeah, that Luke, like you said, as soon
- 28:19Speaker 6: as there was a little bit of slippage, he walked away.
- 28:24Speaker 7: I think the great thing about the way it happened
- 28:27Speaker 7: for Luke is he left the game on top. You know,
- 28:30Speaker 7: he's he he had suffered a few of those concussions
- 28:33Speaker 7: and that's always frightening, but he was able to go
- 28:36Speaker 7: out on his terms. So did it surprise me? Not really.
- 28:42Speaker 7: He had eight unbelievable years, and in the NFL, your
- 28:46Speaker 7: body can take so many hits. And I really think
- 28:50Speaker 7: that Luke looked at it and he just said, I
- 28:52Speaker 7: can't perform to the level of expectation I have for myself,
- 28:58Speaker 7: and he felt like he would let people down. That's
- 29:00Speaker 7: my take on it, because Luke was always about making
- 29:03Speaker 7: others better and raising others level of play.
- 29:07Speaker 5: Coach, are you are you going to be there in Canton?
- 29:09Speaker 5: Is this something you're gonna take part in?
- 29:11Speaker 3: Oh?
- 29:12Speaker 7: Absolutely, we're taking Actually, I'm gonna go up Friday. We
- 29:16Speaker 7: moved our scrimmage from Saturday to Friday. I'm gonna go
- 29:20Speaker 7: up Friday evening and stay through Sunday. And my staff
- 29:24Speaker 7: and my varsity team, they're all coming up on Saturday.
- 29:27Speaker 7: This is a once in a lifetime deal for us.
- 29:31Speaker 7: It's historic. I mean we I want these kids to
- 29:34Speaker 7: see homegrown guy that did well. I think there'll be
- 29:39Speaker 7: just a great experience for all of us.
- 29:41Speaker 6: Coach, you have a website and a book, right, go
- 29:44Speaker 6: ahead and promote that as well.
- 29:46Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah. I wrote a book called Fourth in Redemption.
- 29:52Speaker 7: It was about our twenty sixteen season. We went five
- 29:56Speaker 7: and five barely snuck into the playoffs and then ran
- 30:00Speaker 7: five street victories Duenna State title. It was a true
- 30:03Speaker 7: uh David and Goliath. Story. But there there's a there's
- 30:07Speaker 7: an expert on an excerpt in it about when Luke
- 30:10Speaker 7: retired and and you guys will love this. We're in UH.
- 30:13Speaker 7: I have a podcast and my co host was a
- 30:17Speaker 7: was a student at Saint Axe with Luke back in
- 30:19Speaker 7: two thousand and seven, and we uh, we were celebrating
- 30:23Speaker 7: the podcast at a bar in Tampa, Tampa, Florida, and
- 30:30Speaker 7: we're eating and all of a sudden, across the TV
- 30:33Speaker 7: at the screen, it appears that Luke Keigley retired, and
- 30:38Speaker 7: the entire restaurant got quiet, and everybody's looking at it,
- 30:43Speaker 7: and then, uh will my my podcast. My co host
- 30:47Speaker 7: tells the waiter said, he went to our high school.
- 30:49Speaker 7: This is his high school coach. And the waiters telling everybody,
- 30:53Speaker 7: this is Luke Keigley, the high school coach, and everybody
- 30:55Speaker 7: starts cheering. Everybody started cheering for Luke Keighley. It was
- 30:58Speaker 7: a celebration. I think they were cheering because they knew
- 31:01Speaker 7: that they weren't gonna have to play him anymore.
- 31:02Speaker 4: I was just it was so cool, crazy that.
- 31:08Speaker 7: I mean, everybody loved that guy. How can you not
- 31:12Speaker 7: love Luke Keigley even though you're you know, your arrival.
- 31:16Speaker 7: The whole place was just cheering, asking questions. What was
- 31:20Speaker 7: he like?
- 31:20Speaker 4: Is?
- 31:20Speaker 7: It was so neat cool experience, and I thought, man,
- 31:24Speaker 7: what a way to go out on top.
- 31:26Speaker 4: That is a tremendous story. Fun interview.
- 31:29Speaker 5: Steve Speck still at saying Xavier High School bone still
- 31:32Speaker 5: want to state championship just a couple of years ago,
- 31:35Speaker 5: his fourth overall, but he won one with Luke in
- 31:38Speaker 5: that junior season that he talked about and that story
- 31:41Speaker 5: about being in a Tampa bar and seeing bucks hands
- 31:44Speaker 5: celebrate Luke Keikley. He's done that, God, he's done. That's
- 31:48Speaker 5: so good. I love the energy and so did the
- 31:51Speaker 5: text line of coach there. That was awesome to get
- 31:53Speaker 5: wog weeks started there. That made me want to go
- 31:56Speaker 5: back talking to coach and play high school football again again.
- 32:00Speaker 5: Huh oh, I didn't know, yeah, I didn't know you. Well,
- 32:03Speaker 5: I thought you had four or full years of eligibility.
- 32:05Speaker 5: I misworded that. That makes me want to go back
- 32:07Speaker 5: and maybe use my uh use my fifth year.
- 32:10Speaker 4: Man, check with the court and see if you're cleared
- 32:14Speaker 4: another year.
- 32:14Speaker 6: If they were mag if you could go back and
- 32:17Speaker 6: use a fifth year of high school, would you use it?
- 32:18Speaker 5: Go back to high school again? I think I may
- 32:20Speaker 5: use my I would love to play basketball against high school. No, oh,
- 32:23Speaker 5: I don't know my kidding, I'm out of shape. Why
- 32:25Speaker 5: do I want to do that? What do you try
- 32:26Speaker 5: to get me involved in?
- 32:27Speaker 4: Bone? I'd die on the court. I literally die on
- 32:30Speaker 4: the court. I'd go back to West right now, will
- 32:32Speaker 4: be a god? Now do I want to go back
- 32:34Speaker 4: to college?
- 32:35Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 32:35Speaker 5: That could be kind of fun. I don't know if
- 32:37Speaker 5: I survived that either, though for different reasons, they'd say,
- 32:40Speaker 5: oh my god, that guy knew Chris paul Man, this
- 32:42Speaker 5: is gonna be a fun this Luke Eakley a week
- 32:45Speaker 5: is gonna be fun man, Kirk Coleman later, I love
- 32:48Speaker 5: Luke's stories. Darren Gant's been doing a really good job
- 32:50Speaker 5: Bone of writing different articles.
- 32:54Speaker 4: He has been killing it. Man.
- 32:56Speaker 5: Of course, he's a Hall of Fame voter here, you know,
- 32:58Speaker 5: representing the Charlotte market, and he is part of putting
- 33:01Speaker 5: Luke Keighley in the Hall of Fame. But some of
- 33:04Speaker 5: the stuff that he has been that he has been writing.
- 33:07Speaker 5: There was a story in there where there's a TD
- 33:09Speaker 5: quote on Panthers dot com about how he woke up
- 33:13Speaker 5: from the surgery the next morning. Remember, he broke his
- 33:16Speaker 5: arm against Arizona to you did in the twenty fifteen
- 33:20Speaker 5: NFC title game, and he went to that surgery immediately
- 33:23Speaker 5: next morning because he was going to plea was dead
- 33:25Speaker 5: set I will play even with his broken arm in
- 33:28Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. He says he woke up from the
- 33:30Speaker 5: surgery and there was Luke Keickley just waiting for him, said,
- 33:34Speaker 5: I'm going to take you home, man. Want to make
- 33:36Speaker 5: sure you're all right the night after. There also is
- 33:38Speaker 5: a There also is a Darren Gant article about Luke
- 33:42Speaker 5: Keighley's infamous notepads. He wasn't just bone a compulsive film watcher.
- 33:47Speaker 5: He was a compulsive note taker, kind of like that
- 33:50Speaker 5: nerdy kid in school that you'd be like.
- 33:52Speaker 4: Hey, I didn't get any notestake. I bored that notebook
- 33:56Speaker 4: just and used the exact same pen, the exact same
- 34:00Speaker 4: type of pen all the time to take his notes
- 34:03Speaker 4: for his entire career.
- 34:04Speaker 5: But he would go through like five Darren said, he'd
- 34:06Speaker 5: go through five notebooks a season, and what he would
- 34:09Speaker 5: do is just keep repeat. He'd write stuff over and
- 34:12Speaker 5: over again. And I think a lot of people were
- 34:14Speaker 5: like this when studying. Like he says, if I wrote
- 34:17Speaker 5: it enough, I would remember it and yeah it's it's
- 34:21Speaker 5: a but there's really you. Just go check Panthers dot com.
- 34:25Speaker 5: Darren Gantz got about five freaking gems about Luke Man.
- 34:28Speaker 4: That's awesome.
- 34:29Speaker 6: Shall we go to our gem Fitty Marlow here with
- 34:32Speaker 6: a update?
- 34:33Speaker 5: Heck yeah, man, heck yeah. Check out this guy's notes
- 34:36Speaker 5: over there.
- 34:37Speaker 4: It's all right.
- 34:39Speaker 10: A little hometown or a big old city might as
- 34:43Speaker 10: well shared, might as well smiles.
- 34:48Speaker 8: Wow, thank you guys.
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- 35:18Speaker 1: the weekend in the NFL in the Division. Saints wide
- 35:22Speaker 1: receiver Jaylen Polk officially retired after being the thirty seventh
- 35:27Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty four NFL draft. Played one
- 35:31Speaker 1: season in New England, got traded to the Saints, never
- 35:34Speaker 1: played for New Orleans when he did retire in Jadevian
- 35:37Speaker 1: Clowney going back to where it all started, signing as
- 35:40Speaker 1: a free agent with the Houston Texans. That's the name
- 35:43Speaker 1: we've talked about as a maybe potential addition since the
- 35:46Speaker 1: Knick's court and injury. Not a whole lot of buzz
- 35:48Speaker 1: around it, but Javid Jenevian Clowney has found his new
- 35:51Speaker 1: football home where it all started, back in Houston.
- 35:54Speaker 5: He is starting bone He's played for all the NFL teams.
- 35:57Speaker 5: He is now starting his second lap through the NFL.
- 36:00Speaker 5: Eventually he's gonna get to a second stint with the Panthers.
- 36:03Speaker 5: When he is sixty two years old, it'll be time
- 36:05Speaker 5: for a second stint with the Panthers.
- 36:07Speaker 4: All right, we come back. It's weekend conclusions.
- 36:09Speaker 6: I kind of went caaring yesterday Mac on a customer
- 36:13Speaker 6: service in a customer service situation. Oh, I'll explain that
- 36:18Speaker 6: prominent media member goes after back in Guy, we'll talk
- 36:23Speaker 6: about that and what impressed Fitty most about Max's night
- 36:28Speaker 6: out on Friday Sports Radio ninety two seven WFZ.
- 36:46Speaker 9: So my mom and my dad they both pay the way.
- 36:49Speaker 9: A lot of folks don't really nobody. I don't talk
- 36:51Speaker 9: about it, you know what I'm saying. I I don't
- 36:54Speaker 9: like to hear about it and stuff like that, and
- 36:58Speaker 9: what I wanted to all let it be with it
- 37:01Speaker 9: back up to how it was when I was a
- 37:03Speaker 9: little mine because my highs burnt down when we was
- 37:06Speaker 9: when I was in third grade that year the year
- 37:11Speaker 9: a whole lot of stuff have Man, I think that's
- 37:13Speaker 9: the same year my mom had died. I know, that's
- 37:15Speaker 9: what counselors. My dad had a lot of heart attack
- 37:17Speaker 9: that same year, and I have burnt down.
- 37:19Speaker 3: That same year at h Yeah.
- 37:22Speaker 9: Well that's part of it. That's part of it, you
- 37:25Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. I always tell folk and they
- 37:27Speaker 9: I tell what my people paid away. They always say so.
- 37:31Speaker 9: He always telling me so, because to me, I kind
- 37:34Speaker 9: of feel like that's what while I'm like how I
- 37:35Speaker 9: am today, that's what made me, you know what I'm saying.
- 37:38Speaker 9: But I always had a plan since I've been lit
- 37:40Speaker 9: and I always stuck with.
- 37:42Speaker 4: That is Excel.
- 37:44Speaker 5: The conversation he had with Sports Illustrated SI, this is
- 37:48Speaker 5: the day Bony that he was having his big, big
- 37:50Speaker 5: shin dig out there and Brian Price went out there,
- 37:53Speaker 5: wouldn't get on the horse, but got on the three wheeler.
- 37:55Speaker 4: It was that day and that comment right there.
- 38:00Speaker 5: Lost his parents when he was young, and he is
- 38:02Speaker 5: renovating his house, his childhood home in Mullins because he
- 38:07Speaker 5: wants to remember what it was like when he was
- 38:11Speaker 5: little or as he said, a little man.
- 38:12Speaker 4: That's how he said it.
- 38:14Speaker 5: You hear things like that about Excel, I feel like
- 38:18Speaker 5: and I feel like sometimes we just start throwing out
- 38:22Speaker 5: all these comments out of frustration in him as a player.
- 38:26Speaker 5: I think we forget he's an actual human being who's
- 38:28Speaker 5: been through a lot, and I think sometimes we all
- 38:32Speaker 5: need a little bit of reminder of that, and like
- 38:35Speaker 5: he just seems genuine good people man, and got to
- 38:39Speaker 5: hope he can turn it around. He's frustrated me as
- 38:41Speaker 5: a fan, But man, you listen to that guy. How
- 38:43Speaker 5: can you not want that guy to have success? We
- 38:46Speaker 5: need the football player to match the human being XL.
- 38:51Speaker 5: As if we get that, then we have an all
- 38:53Speaker 5: time fan favorite on our hands. Nobe about it, definitely, man,
- 38:56Speaker 5: So anyway, I wanted to make sure everybody heard that
- 38:59Speaker 5: right there, we will talk about a fan fest. Xcel
- 39:01Speaker 5: had a real nice player on Friday night, so many
- 39:05Speaker 5: of the receivers did. We'll talk fan fest at the
- 39:07Speaker 5: top of the hour right now, though, Bone Man, let's
- 39:10Speaker 5: get to more weekend conclusions.
- 39:13Speaker 4: What do you have over there, Mac?
- 39:15Speaker 6: We're gonna start with what impressed Fitty the most about
- 39:19Speaker 6: what he witnessed you do on Friday night. I've seen
- 39:22Speaker 6: this a million times and it always amazes me as well.
- 39:26Speaker 6: Mac might be the best wing eater we've ever seen.
- 39:31Speaker 6: Not necessarily in volume yeah, volume, yeah yeah, but how
- 39:34Speaker 6: you you clean the bone?
- 39:37Speaker 4: That sounds weirder than I wanted it to.
- 39:39Speaker 10: But you giving you a bathroom some one hand you
- 39:44Speaker 10: one hand the wings you get nothing on you it
- 39:49Speaker 10: is You're an extraordinary wing eater.
- 39:52Speaker 4: Fitty, you were great. Thank you man. Let's heart. It
- 39:54Speaker 4: warms my heart.
- 39:55Speaker 1: It was like watching Picasso or someone, you know, Da Vinci.
- 39:59Speaker 8: You know it was a work of art.
- 40:01Speaker 4: Jed Williams at the Plate back in the forties.
- 40:05Speaker 1: I've never seen someone one handed chicken wing that that
- 40:09Speaker 1: dips that. You put a lot of blue cheese on
- 40:11Speaker 1: your wing. There's a lot of sauce and old you
- 40:13Speaker 1: had buffalo sauce wings and not anything on your shirt,
- 40:17Speaker 1: no flavor, savor and your beard.
- 40:20Speaker 6: Now, I will say this, that part you don't even
- 40:22Speaker 6: use both hands. You have one hand down on the table. Yeah,
- 40:26Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it's artistray. Thank I'm glad somebody
- 40:29Speaker 6: noticed that. I will say this, The part about me
- 40:31Speaker 6: not making a mess, that was an aberration.
- 40:33Speaker 5: That is not That's not a normal thing. But I
- 40:36Speaker 5: believe no piece of chicken meat should be left behind
- 40:39Speaker 5: on any of those bones. I get angry if I
- 40:42Speaker 5: see Mac Junior didn't clean his wings. He gets a
- 40:45Speaker 5: scolding at the house. All right, that's the way you
- 40:48Speaker 5: do it.
- 40:49Speaker 4: Maybe. I'm so glad that y'all notice that. It might
- 40:51Speaker 4: be your your best quality, your best features. I don't
- 40:55Speaker 4: have much gold. That's your most defied skill. I think
- 40:59Speaker 4: I don't know how much going for me. I'll be
- 41:01Speaker 4: glad to just have one skill. So I do appreciate that.
- 41:04Speaker 5: I don't appreciate my daughter Caitlyn and what she told
- 41:08Speaker 5: me on Friday night. She has started watching the Golden Girls.
- 41:11Speaker 5: This is a tradition in my house. Mac Junior watched it,
- 41:16Speaker 5: my wife watches it. But now Caitlyn, my daughter, thirteen
- 41:20Speaker 5: year old daughters watching Golden Girls, and she says to me,
- 41:23Speaker 5: do you know you're as old? You're almost as old
- 41:25Speaker 5: as one of the Golden Girls characters. One of the
- 41:28Speaker 5: Golden Girls characters was fifty five years old during Golden Girls.
- 41:32Speaker 5: That you're almost that age. First of all, on fifty two,
- 41:34Speaker 5: we got three years. We got three years to go girly,
- 41:37Speaker 5: all right. But secondly, that's not what I want to hear. Man,
- 41:40Speaker 5: even if it's true, that is not what I want
- 41:42Speaker 5: to hear.
- 41:42Speaker 4: Bone.
- 41:43Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's crazy that all the characters were in
- 41:45Speaker 6: there early to mid fifties.
- 41:47Speaker 4: Is that what it was?
- 41:47Speaker 5: The actresses were in there, yeah, like fifties or whatever,
- 41:51Speaker 5: because I like, you watch them and I think they're
- 41:54Speaker 5: supposed to be like seventy something, right, yeah, but they
- 41:58Speaker 5: weren't or no, no, no, I mean I think Sophia was,
- 42:03Speaker 5: oh yeah she was, but the other ones one other
- 42:04Speaker 5: ones were more in there, I guess in their fifties
- 42:07Speaker 5: way fifties. So should I be a golden guy now?
- 42:10Speaker 9: Is that what?
- 42:10Speaker 4: Probably? I don't feel old. I don't feel all that
- 42:13Speaker 4: show now takes me off.
- 42:15Speaker 6: Your co host still watches too here. Let's not believe
- 42:17Speaker 6: him out either. Well, that's a given. That's definitely a given.
- 42:20Speaker 6: Mac Ryan McGee, friend of the station. You hear him
- 42:23Speaker 6: every week from ESPN on with KB. He was preaching
- 42:28Speaker 6: on Saturday morning when this tweet came up. Quote said
- 42:31Speaker 6: it before worth repeating one of the dumbest trends of
- 42:35Speaker 6: my lifetime, holding up an entire parking lot to do
- 42:39Speaker 6: a reverse five point turn all just the back into
- 42:42Speaker 6: your spot like you're unloading uranium cores down at the shipyard. Dude,
- 42:47Speaker 6: you're in a Chevy Colorado at the public and what
- 42:51Speaker 6: truck does fitting drive as Chevy Colorado?
- 42:53Speaker 4: I thought of fitting back in nation?
- 42:55Speaker 6: Is that got twelve thousand likes one point five million views?
- 43:00Speaker 4: Ryan McGee for your service?
- 43:01Speaker 5: Hell yeah, man, that is a seriously literally and there's
- 43:04Speaker 5: like four of us backed up just watching this guy
- 43:06Speaker 5: put on a damn backing in expedition? Are you freaking
- 43:10Speaker 5: kidding me that I said it? I respond to that
- 43:12Speaker 5: tweet That's why I'm a pull through guy. All I
- 43:15Speaker 5: do is, oh, I don't need that spot that close.
- 43:17Speaker 5: Let me go back here towards the back of the thing,
- 43:19Speaker 5: and I can pull through still.
- 43:21Speaker 4: Get the same result. I'm gonna drive through that parking lot.
- 43:26Speaker 6: We figured out the grace I will give if you
- 43:31Speaker 6: have a big truck and you're in a parking deck
- 43:33Speaker 6: and it's easier to get out of that. I understand
- 43:36Speaker 6: that when you're at Harris Heater, when you're at Public's,
- 43:40Speaker 6: when you're at Target. It's the when you're at a
- 43:43Speaker 6: chain restaurant, it's those back ends where you go.
- 43:46Speaker 4: Is that necessary? That's crazy?
- 43:48Speaker 6: It's over the deck, Fitty. I'm good with that. But
- 43:50Speaker 6: you are your back end guy, Fitty, aren't you? I am?
- 43:53Speaker 1: But not if I'm gonna hold up multiple cars in
- 43:56Speaker 1: a parking lot.
- 43:57Speaker 8: Usually I do take the mac approach.
- 44:00Speaker 1: I'll just pull a little bit further down and just
- 44:02Speaker 1: walk so I don't have to do that. But like
- 44:05Speaker 1: when I drove y'all to the stadium last week to
- 44:07Speaker 1: do training camp, I backed into my parking spot.
- 44:10Speaker 4: Parking deck, parking deck. I think that's approved. I prove that.
- 44:12Speaker 1: I just think there's some people when I see texts
- 44:16Speaker 1: like that, those guys that meinly can't back in and
- 44:19Speaker 1: it's just safe space. It's twenty twenty six. We're not
- 44:22Speaker 1: gonna judge you just say you can't back up a vehicle.
- 44:24Speaker 1: It took me a long time to figure it out myself,
- 44:27Speaker 1: but now that I know how to do it.
- 44:28Speaker 5: Someone on the text line said, Bone's jealous he couldn't
- 44:31Speaker 5: back into a parking spot if he tried.
- 44:34Speaker 7: I don't know what.
- 44:35Speaker 4: I don't need to back in.
- 44:38Speaker 8: West did it at the mall on Saturday and it
- 44:40Speaker 8: was perfect.
- 44:41Speaker 4: That brings me. Let's wrap this up.
- 44:43Speaker 5: My final conclusion Bone is that FITTI we you know,
- 44:46Speaker 5: we give him a hard time. We got the jokes
- 44:48Speaker 5: to fit around here. Fitty might be the most socially
- 44:52Speaker 5: active guy at the station.
- 44:55Speaker 4: When when when it comes to.
- 44:58Speaker 5: Hanging out with his cowork Fiddy, well, obviously him and
- 45:02Speaker 5: Flounder are best friends for years.
- 45:05Speaker 4: He hung out Bone with you and I. It was
- 45:07Speaker 4: a show.
- 45:07Speaker 5: Outing to FanFest on Friday and then on Saturday, Bone
- 45:11Speaker 5: he had a one on one man date to go
- 45:13Speaker 5: see the Spider Man movie with Wes Bryant. Fiddy needs
- 45:18Speaker 5: credit for being the social butterfly at w f NZ.
- 45:22Speaker 4: Thank you Mac.
- 45:23Speaker 8: I also went to North Wolkesboro with Smoke.
- 45:26Speaker 4: That's true, so Walker and Kyle want nothing to do
- 45:30Speaker 4: with Walker and Kab would have to You'd have to
- 45:32Speaker 4: take them at gunpoint to hang with them outside of work.
- 45:36Speaker 8: But Wes was a fun hang. I went to Jim
- 45:38Speaker 8: and Nicks. I tried their smoke wings.
- 45:41Speaker 1: They're worth everything that they are priced to be, and
- 45:43Speaker 1: they are priced very, very expensively. But I got the
- 45:46Speaker 1: album of white Sauce wings. Those were fantastic. And Spider
- 45:49Speaker 1: Man was good. It's not as good as it's being
- 45:52Speaker 1: hyped up to be. But Tom holl And, I think
- 45:55Speaker 1: did cement himself as the best actor to portray Spider
- 45:59Speaker 1: Man with his with his latest work.
- 46:01Speaker 8: I enjoyed the movie. I had a really fun time there.
- 46:03Speaker 4: You go, Bone, I know you wanted a Spider Man
- 46:05Speaker 4: review bow today. That's fine.
- 46:08Speaker 8: One day I will get y'all into.
- 46:10Speaker 5: The superhero like the superheroes, but hey, sounds like a
- 46:13Speaker 5: hell of a time.
- 46:14Speaker 8: I like soccer hero though. Either For the longest time,
- 46:16Speaker 8: I think I can win you.
- 46:18Speaker 4: Anythink you can turn me into a superhero movie gun
- 46:21Speaker 4: when we come back.
- 46:22Speaker 6: Full FanFest recap, How was the fan experience and who
- 46:26Speaker 6: stood out. Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ