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Milei Wins; Gaza Update; Trade Deals; Military Use; Fuentes Normalized | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: All right, So let's start with the good news. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: good news. Wow, I was worried. I was worried about
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  Speaker 1: this election for me, Lay. I was because of the
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  Speaker 1: regional elections. And I'm not you know, I'm not an
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  Speaker 1: expert on Argentinian and I'm not an exponent on Agentine,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm certainly not an expert on Argentinian politics. And
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  Speaker 1: the polls were mixed, that were showing me Lay kind
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  Speaker 1: of neck and neck with the pronas to you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe leading him a little bit, but neck and neck.
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  Speaker 1: Of the Argentinian population lives in Buenos Airis and and
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  Speaker 1: Bonos Airus is the province he lost during the regional elections,
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  Speaker 1: So that was a worry. The economy had had slowed
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  Speaker 1: down or wasn't doing as well since that election, and
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  Speaker 1: confidence in the Peso, which then affects the election, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, also the confidence in the Paese declined significantly,
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  Speaker 1: so the Peser was in trouble. Now. Trump kind of
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  Speaker 1: helped bail me lay out a little bit by doing
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  Speaker 1: a billion dollar garvantee and then promising to help raise
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  Speaker 1: twenty billion in the private markets. So that that was
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  Speaker 1: I think helped him in the election. Bet it was
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  Speaker 1: very dicey, and yet he pulled it off. I mean
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  Speaker 1: he got over forty percent of the vote. He beat
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  Speaker 1: the pair Owus by about ten percentage points. He has
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  Speaker 1: significantly boasted his position in Parliament to the point where
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  Speaker 1: now if he vetos a bill, they won't be able
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  Speaker 1: to override it. They could overwrite it before. He still
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  Speaker 1: is a long way from a majority, let's be clear.
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  Speaker 1: So he's going to have to work with other political parties.
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  Speaker 1: There is a right of center political party, kind of
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  Speaker 1: a right of center Malquis Malci, who was president what
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  Speaker 1: I said eight years ago, leads a political party that
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  Speaker 1: is right of center, that is on many issues friendly
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  Speaker 1: to Milaise. So he will have their backing. But he's
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  Speaker 1: going to have to form some kind of broader coalition
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  Speaker 1: to actually get a majority in parliament. And he needs
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  Speaker 1: a majority. He needs a majority if he wants to
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  Speaker 1: do everything he wants to do. And there are a
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  Speaker 1: few things, a few things that he's going to need
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  Speaker 1: Parliament's help to do. You know, he needs Argentina drastically
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  Speaker 1: desperately needs taxophone. It's got a horrible tax system, disincentivizes
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  Speaker 1: pretty much everything, dis incentivizes investment, distincentivisers exports, distance, aivisers, inputs,
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  Speaker 1: you know, dis incentives work, simplification and elimination of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of taxes, particularly in export imports on capitol. We'll see,
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  Speaker 1: but he's going to have to put together comprehensive tax
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  Speaker 1: rephone in the new parliament, and he's going to have
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  Speaker 1: he's going to need a majority to pass that. The
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  Speaker 1: Peronists will not support that, and they're still the largest
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  Speaker 1: single political party in parliament. It's just now that Uh
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  Speaker 1: Malay and the Conservatives the center right are now bigger
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  Speaker 1: than the Pronists combined. But Malay's party is still smaller
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  Speaker 1: than the Pronis. But here's the thing about Malaya before
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  Speaker 1: we get to the other things he needs to do
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  Speaker 1: is going to do. Just a few years ago, he
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  Speaker 1: didn't exist. That is, this political party came from nowhere,
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  Speaker 1: literally from nowhere over the last eight years to a
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  Speaker 1: position whether the second largest party in Argentina, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: quite you know, if things go well, they could only
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  Speaker 1: become the largest political party in Argentina and have a
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  Speaker 1: president who not only serves four years but gets re elected,
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  Speaker 1: which is pretty rare. So what Melee has done from
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  Speaker 1: a purely political perspective is truly astounding in terms of
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  Speaker 1: building a new political party where the Peronists and the
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  Speaker 1: Conservatives pretty much dominated Argentina politics, and build a completely
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  Speaker 1: new political party and has now built up even in
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  Speaker 1: parliament a presence. It's not just him, it's not just
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  Speaker 1: his charisma. Now it's a whole political party and there's
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  Speaker 1: real support in Argentinian people. We'll get to that in
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  Speaker 1: a minute. So so taxophone is gonna have to do
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  Speaker 1: massive taxophone. This also he would like to do, and
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  Speaker 1: he needs to do, but this will be more difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Is significant labor reform. He needs to make it easier
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  Speaker 1: to hire and fire. And in order to make it
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  Speaker 1: easier to hire, you have to make it easier to fire.
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  Speaker 1: So all those protections for the unions, all these protections
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  Speaker 1: the unions have fought for and will defend, he needs
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of those because that is what will
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  Speaker 1: create a dynamism within the economy. I think he'll continue
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  Speaker 1: whatever deregulation he can, whatever deregulation get past, But deregulating
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  Speaker 1: the labor market is huge. I think he tried to
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  Speaker 1: do that early, but he couldn't get it past Congress.
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  Speaker 1: He needs to pension reform again. The systems convoluted and
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  Speaker 1: corrupt and ineffective. And you know, government spending is too high,
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  Speaker 1: so he's going to have to reform that. And then
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  Speaker 1: the other things that he wanted to do and couldn't
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  Speaker 1: do was a lot of privatization. Some privatization he got
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  Speaker 1: through the first time. There's a lot more he would
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  Speaker 1: like to privatize. He's gonna have to build a coalition
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  Speaker 1: to get that done. So the next stage in the
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  Speaker 1: Malay revolution, in the economic revolution, political revolution of Aaviomila
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  Speaker 1: requires passing laws. It requires passing bills through Congress, through
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  Speaker 1: the parliament, both the lower house and the upper house.
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  Speaker 1: And for that he's going to have to build coalitions,
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  Speaker 1: first of all with the Conservatives, but then I think
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  Speaker 1: with some of the smaller regional political parties who tend
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  Speaker 1: to be leftists. But maybe he can selectively carve out people,
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  Speaker 1: give them the right incentives play politics. He's not very
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  Speaker 1: good at that, but you know, maybe he's got some
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  Speaker 1: people within the party will be able to do it.
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  Speaker 1: He also comes with a real mandate. He did win right,
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  Speaker 1: He got more votes than any other political party by
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  Speaker 1: significant margins. So the Argitinuan people clearly made a statement.
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  Speaker 1: And what's interesting is that in Bonos Aires, where again
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  Speaker 1: the Peronists basically beat him in the provincial voting, the
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  Speaker 1: people who typically voted Perorners the poor primarily, even though
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  Speaker 1: the Proornisters are nothing for the poor, but they keep promising,
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  Speaker 1: they always promise, and somehow the poor believe them. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like the poor just stayed home this time.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't necessarily, you know, back in Malay, but it
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  Speaker 1: does seem like they stayed home and didn't vote for
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  Speaker 1: the pro Honists generally. One of the sad things about
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  Speaker 1: this election, one of the few sad things about this
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  Speaker 1: like it is their turnout was very, very low. I
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  Speaker 1: think the lowest in some like forty years, sixty eight percent.
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  Speaker 1: I think of the population voted, where they usually have
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  Speaker 1: much higher because they have compulsory voting. So a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the populations said, ah, we're just gonna stay home
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  Speaker 1: and see what happens. We're not quite ready to jump
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  Speaker 1: on on this. And the next two years are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be crucial because Melay, it's gonna take me later fully
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  Speaker 1: revolutionizer just in the economy more than four years. And
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  Speaker 1: over the next two years he's gonna have to do
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  Speaker 1: enough to get the economy going, to create jobs, to
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  Speaker 1: bring people out of poverty, and at the same time
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  Speaker 1: so as to boastate popularity so he can win, but
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  Speaker 1: not just him. His political party wins in parliament in
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  Speaker 1: two years and maybe maybe can achieve the kind of
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  Speaker 1: majority to really be revolutionary. There's no talk about dollarization.
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  Speaker 1: That seems to be off the table at least for now.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that has to wait until he has an out
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  Speaker 1: and out majority in his political party. It does seem
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  Speaker 1: like the current currency regime will stay and he will.
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  Speaker 1: There will be this band in which the Paeseol trades
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  Speaker 1: and the central bank will intervene if it tries to
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  Speaker 1: if it goes out of that band. It's not ideal.
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  Speaker 1: Ideally he would float the covency completely, but it seems
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  Speaker 1: like they're going to keep this band. On the day
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  Speaker 1: of the election, just to give you a sense of
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  Speaker 1: the approach, you know, kind of how investors will think
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: about the day of the election, the Argentina stock pocket
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  Speaker 1: went up eighteen percent eighteen percent in one day. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is after it had gone down a lot since
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  Speaker 1: the regional so I own like an Argentina in ETF
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  Speaker 1: because I bought it and did very well in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four. Twenty twenty five sucked, it went down a lot. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: it made up all its losses in one day and
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  Speaker 1: then my understanding is Tuesday was and then Tuesday it
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  Speaker 1: went up another ten twelve percent, so total went up
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  Speaker 1: thirty percent, which is amazing for stock market in two days.
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  Speaker 1: So it's I think it's at the highest level it's
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  Speaker 1: been the last few years. And that is the kind
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  Speaker 1: of I think confidence the markets have. Now there's still
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  Speaker 1: not confident in the currency. The pace so went up
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  Speaker 1: on Monday, came down on Tuesday, so the pace is
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  Speaker 1: not particularly strong. I think again people are taking away
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  Speaker 1: and see attitude around it and see what the country
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  Speaker 1: regime is going to be. But yeah, I mean I'm
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  Speaker 1: very excited because I really want to see what's next.
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  Speaker 1: Malaya's being the most exciting, the most interesting, and the
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  Speaker 1: most positive political phenomenon. Is that, right, phenomenon? I think
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: it's phenomenon. I know it's not phenomena, which I usually
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: say that's bad bad that don't say phenomena, right, Uh
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  Speaker 1: So I know, so it's he's being the most positive thing.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I want to I want to see it
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  Speaker 1: keep rolling, and I want to see how far he
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  Speaker 1: can go. And I want to see I'd love to
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  Speaker 1: see Argentina become a Leslifi capitalist country, or at least close.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to see it, you know, break into the
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  Speaker 1: top ten economic on the Economic Freedom Index. Imagine if
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  Speaker 1: in probably not two years, but maybe in four years,
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  Speaker 1: Argentina is more free economically than the United States. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that would be so amazing. It's such a model for
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  Speaker 1: other countries to EMULAID. And and of course we know
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  Speaker 1: what will happen. Economic growth will go like this, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it will go It'll go exponential, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: economic freedom does, that's what you know, increased economic freedom.
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  Speaker 1: So it's very I'm very excited. I'm very positive. I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to to really keep me track, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I just saw that there's going to be a conference
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  Speaker 1: of the montpellerin Society in twenty twenty seven in Buenos Aires, A.
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  Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to that conference, and that'll be find
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  Speaker 1: it'll actually be I think it'll be just before the election,
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  Speaker 1: the presidential elections, so that'll be huge. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: surprised if me Leae makes an appearance and we'll have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Argentinian economists there, and that's a montpellerin
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  Speaker 1: Society meeting I definitely intend to go to. So I'm
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to that. H
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: what else? What else to say about me? Lay? You know, again,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a slam dunk. I want to make that clear.
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  Speaker 1: It's still going to be hard. There's still going to
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  Speaker 1: be coalition building going to be necessary. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: have to prove that he can do that. He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to. I hate to say this, but he's going
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  Speaker 1: to have to compromise. He's going to have to. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is the standard, right, this is the standard in politics.
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  Speaker 1: Anything that moves you towards more liberty, towards more freedom,
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  Speaker 1: is good. So even if you don't get one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent of freedom, it's better to get seventy percent than
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  Speaker 1: where you are today, which is twenty percent. Right, So
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  Speaker 1: you want to move towards more freedom, and he can
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  Speaker 1: if he can keep moving the dial, keep moving the country,
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  Speaker 1: keep moving the laws, keep moving the regulatory regime towards
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  Speaker 1: more freedom, privatize and deregulate and fix the tax system.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be huge, huge, if you can fix
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  Speaker 1: the tax system and get rid of all the capital controls.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is in the next two years. In
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  Speaker 1: the next two years, you'll know things are successful. If
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  Speaker 1: me Laya has gotten rid of all the capital controls,
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  Speaker 1: all the restrictions on the ability to use dollars and
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  Speaker 1: moved dollars and in and out and exporting inputs controls
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  Speaker 1: are all gone, and the taxes and simplified. It would
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  Speaker 1: be amazing. If me lay implemented kind of a flat tax,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: flat income tax or a consumption tax and got rid
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  Speaker 1: of the income tax even better, and then got rid
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  Speaker 1: of all other taxes. Imagine if Argentina, I mean there
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  Speaker 1: probably are a few countries that do this, but imagine
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: if Argentina, you know, a place that everybody's looking at,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: instituted a simplified you know, one tax, one simple flat
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: tax and then prospered. It would be truly amazing. And
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you know the thing people are going to look at
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  Speaker 1: is if you still got about thirty percent of the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Argentina population living in poverty. And a big part of
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  Speaker 1: how you measure success is going to be how many
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  Speaker 1: people come out of poverty. There's no reason more than
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  Speaker 1: ten percent of the population should be poor as defined
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  Speaker 1: by I guess relative poverty. And there's no reason he
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: can't really make a significant dent in the poverty rates
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  Speaker 1: over the next over the next two years. And you
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  Speaker 1: do that by moving incrementally, but moving towards more freedom,
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  Speaker 1: more freedom. Vote down anything that's moved your way for freedom,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know, tariffs, for example, and vote for anything
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: that moves you towards more freedom, like eliminating tarists for example.
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  Speaker 1: That that should be the principle of politics. Now, some
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  Speaker 1: bills move you towards and move your way at the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: same time, so you have to be careful, right, But
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  Speaker 1: that is that is the that is the principle, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So you know what melaised On is is truly astounding.
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  Speaker 1: He is a real political hero in a world where
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: there are no political heroes. There really is nobody to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: admire and nobody respect, and nobody doing anything anything anything close.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen this video, but a lot of people
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: in the chat are saying that Nikos has put out
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: recently put out a really good video on Melee. I'm
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: not surprised Nicos does really good videos. He's got a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: number of videos on a number of different topics that
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: are really good. Go check them out. Subscribe to Nicos's channel,
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  Speaker 1: the up and coming guys that are doing good work.
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  Speaker 1: Reward them by subscribing. Yeah. So, I you know, I
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: think that I think that we are moving towards a
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  Speaker 1: dramatic changes in Argentina over the next two years. And again,
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  Speaker 1: I think melay Is is the best politician on the
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  Speaker 1: planet right now, the only one that I know of
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  Speaker 1: systematically thoroughly moving a status economy towards greater freedom. He's
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  Speaker 1: got to give him credit for that. Whatever vices he has,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure he has some, that is such a
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  Speaker 1: huge virtue that vices are forgiven. Yeah, all right, let's see.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I want to give you an update in Gaza. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in Israel right now, and God, I'm visiting my parents
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  Speaker 1: in the news is on twenty four to seven in
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  Speaker 1: that house, so all you hear is the news. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of being swamped with not only what's going
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  Speaker 1: on in Gaza, but also kind of Israeli internal Israeli politics,
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  Speaker 1: which I won't I won't burden you with, but I
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  Speaker 1: do think the Gaza stuff is interesting and it just
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  Speaker 1: shows that the various attitudes towards victory in towards what's entailed. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so there's this ceasefire, right and Hamas has promised to
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  Speaker 1: return all all the hostages, and here all includes not
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  Speaker 1: only the live hostages, but also the dead ones. Haramas
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  Speaker 1: has discovered over the years that is your values. Getting
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  Speaker 1: back the bodies of dead Israelis almost as much as
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  Speaker 1: getting back live Israelis. And in order to get the
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  Speaker 1: bodies back, that will need to give up a lot.
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  Speaker 1: But Hamas, as part of the agree as part of
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  Speaker 1: this Trump peace Deal Phase one, they were supposed to
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  Speaker 1: release all the live hostages and all the bodies. They
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  Speaker 1: have released all the live hostages, and they've released, you know,
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  Speaker 1: less than half of the dead of the bodies. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they're releasing them slowly. They're claiming they don't know where
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  Speaker 1: they are, but that's a lie. They probably don't know
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  Speaker 1: where about maybe eight bodies are, but the rest they
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  Speaker 1: know where they are right now that they still have
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  Speaker 1: thirteen bodies, so you know, there's all this drama playing
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  Speaker 1: out as they release the bodies and Israel identifies them,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and sometimes Ramas sends over a body of somebody unrelated,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: some Palestinian probably Israel takes these bodies and does d
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  Speaker 1: NHS on them and then releases their identities. And often
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: again the bodies are released are not the bodies of
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  Speaker 1: Israelis that were held in captivity in Gaza. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of suspense every time the the Hamas hands
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  Speaker 1: over bodies to the Red Cross that brought into Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Then they're identified and then the families discover whether the
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  Speaker 1: bodies they or not. Well, yesterday, well the day before yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: Hamas supposedly released a body and when they did the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: testing on it, the DNA testing, they discovered that it
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  Speaker 1: was a body part. This is pretty morbid of a
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  Speaker 1: body that was that Israel kind of discovered way back
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  Speaker 1: in the end of twenty twenty three. Uh, and this
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  Speaker 1: was a body part of And since then Hamas has
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: given another body part that is this This body's been
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  Speaker 1: completely you know, broken, and Hamas is releasing it in pieces. Now.
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  Speaker 1: The Jewish religions, as you have to open open the grave,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: we bury every piece. I mean, put aside the absurdities
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  Speaker 1: of all that, and the fact that the fact that
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole religious thing. You know, why
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  Speaker 1: you would compromise or do anything for the sake of bodies.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know their bodies. They're dead. Their value is minimal.
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  Speaker 1: The families don't feel that way. Anyway, this was viewed
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  Speaker 1: as a significant breach. And then it was discovered. And
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: here's the funny thing, right, funny disgusting thing is it
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  Speaker 1: was discovered that Hamas had taken this body pot which
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: they were holding someway, probably an refrigerator somewhere. They had
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: stuck it in the earth, Someway, covered it up, called
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  Speaker 1: the Red Cross, uncovered it, and see, oh we discovered
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  Speaker 1: a new body. And the Israel has all of this
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  Speaker 1: on video, them bringing the body pot, covering it up,
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  Speaker 1: calling the Red Cross, uncovering it. The whole charade is
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  Speaker 1: on video. So the population in Israel was just infuriated
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  Speaker 1: that Hamas is playing these kind of games, torturing the
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  Speaker 1: family members, and and that the Red Cross it is
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  Speaker 1: so clueless that it's playing along with these things. So
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: there was already a real push in Israel to forget
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  Speaker 1: about the ceasefire and and really go after Hamas and
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  Speaker 1: take territory and bomb them and crush them. But then
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: they talk to the Americans and in there was a
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  Speaker 1: security council like the government met and they were trying
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  Speaker 1: to decide how to respond to this, and N'teniel Biba Nataniel,
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  Speaker 1: the Prime minister. Baski said, hmmm, well, I can't make
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  Speaker 1: a decision without calling Trump, Like we're talking about a
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  Speaker 1: sovereign country. We're talking about the head of a sovereign country.
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  Speaker 1: Can't make a decision without calling Trump. Anyway, they called Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Trump said no, go don't retaliate. This is not bad enough.
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  Speaker 1: No retaliation approved. And it was a huge debate in Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Have we become a client? Has thee become a client
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  Speaker 1: state of the United States? This is all now need
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  Speaker 1: permission to defend itself? Does ziral now need permission to
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  Speaker 1: you know, decide when to retaliate and when not to retaliate.
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  Speaker 1: And it's uh so a huge amount of debate about
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: how much sovereignty does Israel have. Later in the day yesterday,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: after this is all transpiring, and the government mets and
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: decide not to do anything or to do something very minimal.
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  Speaker 1: Then some Hamas fighters came out of a tunnel and
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: killed an Israeli soldier who was on reserved duty. And
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: then it was obvious. I mean, the country was really upset,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and at that point people were really upset, and there
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  Speaker 1: was no I don't think politically, you know Trump, no
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  Speaker 1: would have would have sufficed. But it's still true that
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the government called up Trump. It was it was late
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: at night in or maybe they called a Rubio, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: it was late at night in Tokyo or Trump was
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and basically got his permission, and then they spent about
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: eight hours bombing the hell out of certain parts of Gaza.
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  Speaker 1: Let me know if the video cut out there they
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: might have been a little video glitch. Let me know
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  Speaker 1: if that happened or if you got it. So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: Trump gave his approval, but only for eight hours. If
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I'd say this, if Israel was not seeking, if Israel
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: was not seeking America's permission, I think tanks will be
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: rolling now towards Garza City. I think the killing last
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: week of two Israelis the killing of today. I have
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: a soldier that would have been too much of the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Israeli government and they would have been maybe not taking
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Garza City, but they would be starting squeezing Hamas even more,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: taking territory, you know, and really teaching Hamas a lesson.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: So the point here is that from Trump's perspective, everybody
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: on Israeli television, this is what they're saying, and I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: think they're basically right. Basically these the peace in the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Middle East after three thousand years of conflict, that joke. Anyway,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: peace in the Middle East is the one achievement Trump
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: could point he really doesn't have any other achievements, not Ukraine,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: not really nothing right internally domestically, economy is not doing
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: that well. It's not doing badly, but it's not doing great.
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  Speaker 1: And he's got the stock rocket and the peace in
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: them add least. And so he wants this agreement to work,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: and he will not let Israel jeopardize it, and he
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: will not let Israel defend itself and retaliate in the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: way that needs to retaliate to put Commas in its place.
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  Speaker 1: So we continue to compromise. Soul just continues to die
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: for really no reason. And yeah, it's it's disgusting, it's upsetting,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: its tragic, but it is what it is. In a
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you know, as a as another kind of dig it
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Israeli sovereignty, if you will. The United States has set
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: up a base in Israel for the first time, like
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a not for the first time, but it set up
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: a base in Israel. It's a whitehouse. It's a facility.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: They're supposed to coordinate aid and to coordinate monitoring the
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: ceasefire and will ultimately supposedly be the headquarters of the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: new I don't know, Peace Commission that runs Gaza uh
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  Speaker 1: And it's a it's a warehouse inside Israel, run by
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the US military. They've got two hundred people there and
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: it was all put up in a week. And the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: funny thing that everybody's making fun of was NATANIAO. In
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: order to visit it needed permission from the Americans. So
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: again it was like the Prime Minister of Israel can't
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: even go somewhere in Israel without getting Trump's permission. He's
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: become Trump's lapdog. Israel has become a client state of
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the United States. It is It is pretty funny. This
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: warehouse is not far from is kind of on a
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: small city in southern Israel, not too far from Gaza itself.
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  Speaker 1: So about twenty miles twenty miles from Gaza, but it
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: is where the United States is coordinating all its efforts
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: around Gaza. Not clear what those efforts are going to be.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I think for now it's mainly monitoring to see who
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: violated decease fire, who the good guys, who the bad guys,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. The whole thing is just such a charade.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: It's such a charade. It's so ridiculous. I thought this
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  Speaker 1: was interesting, and that is that. You know, we're two
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: years into this war, over two years now, since October seventh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Gaza has been destroyed. Many people have died
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: in Gaza, though the numbers are fairly small given two
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: years of war in a in a what do you
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: call it, it's a residential area, civilian area, and given
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the way they're counting the numbers, the numbers are small.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, but but you know, Hell has rained
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  Speaker 1: down on the gardens and they be taken from their homes.
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  Speaker 1: Their homes mostly have been destroyed hamasas as a fighting
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  Speaker 1: forces mostly been destroyed, though as you can see, they
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: can still kill soldiers here and there. And yet the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: reality is, and this is a reality that most people
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: want to evade or at least most Israelis won't evade.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: The reality is that Ramasa is still popular among the Palestinians. Indeed,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: fifty three percent of Palestinians Palestinians, not just Guardians, not
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: just Hamas supporters. Fifty three percent of Palestinians, West Bank
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  Speaker 1: and Gazans say the decision by Hamas to launched October
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: seventh was correct. Over fifty percent of Gardens support October seventh.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Even after they're seeing the consequences of it, both the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: consequences of the barbarity of it, but also the consequences
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to them of what happened, they still think it's a
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: good idea. Killing Jews is more important than Palestinian life.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: They worship death, they don't care about life, and that's
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the thing that characterizes them. And so I've said this
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: is a war with the Palestinians, not just with Camas,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: because Tramas is the war for you know, seventh In
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  Speaker 1: supported by over fifty percent. Overall satisfaction with Hammas performance
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: is sixty percent. Sixty They're losing and destroyed and all that,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and they still have support. Sixty six percent of people
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: in the West Bank support Kramas fifty one percent in
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the Gaza strip. When asked which political party people support,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: thirty five percent said Tramas, twenty four FATA thirty two
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: said either none or they're not sure right, neither one
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of the two. There's as, Islamic Jihad, and all kinds
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: of other smaller political forces. If legislative elections were held today,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: among likely voters, forty four percent with Hamas, thirty for FATA,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: ten percent, other sixteen undecided. That is Hamas comes out
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: as the largest political party in Gaza, in sorry in
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Gaza in the West Bank. Among the Palestinians, in a
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: presidential race between Khalid Michal, who is the leader of Hamas,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and Abbas, the candidate of Fatah, the Hamas candidate wins
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: easily sixty three to twenty seven. And the reality is
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: that over the last two years, during the since October seventh,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: support for Hamas has increased rather than decreased. So Hamas
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: is incredible popular and has not been beaten. Israel has
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: not won the war because winning the war means giving
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: up that Palastinians give up. By supporting Hamas, they have
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: not given up. And this goes back to the fact
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: that the war has not been waged in a way
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: as to defeat, crush and bring to their knees the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Palestinian people. The Palestinians need in order for them to
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: be peace. The Palestinians need to be convinced that the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Hamas routes, just like the Germans who convinced the Nazi
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: rout just like the Japanese were convinced the imperialist route,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: that route led to only death and destruction, and that
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: they must change their ways. The standard by which you
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: know if you wonder the war is how popular your
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: enemy is. And if the enemy is still popular, you
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: are losing, losing big time. Israel Is at the end
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: of the day, losing him. It's safer. But we're no
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: way close. I mean, Trump has this goal of a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Palestinian state. You cannot do a Palestinian state if Hamas
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: is going to win elections supposed to this band and
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and and you know, uh, demilitarize. But all that will
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: happen is that Hamas sentiment will go into a new
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: political party call them chichik, I don't know, call them
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them, that will hold all
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: the views of Hamas. It just won't be called Hamas,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: call them the Muslim brotherhood, and you will have done nothing.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: So Palestinian state in the county environment is impossible. Impossible,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: It's a fantasy. Only way you're going to get any
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: kind of Palestinian state is is if you completely change
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Palestinian's attitudes towards life, towards their own life, and towards Israel.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: COMASO would have to get, you know, an insignificant percentage
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of support from the Palestinian people for them to be
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: any chance a peace in the future. So things are
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: not looking up in Israel, and in terms of in
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Gauza put it that way, in terms of Gauzza, all right,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to make a note. I don't have
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: a lot to say about this, but I just wanted
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: to make a note for all of you just to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: say you're gonna We're hearing a lot about trade deals.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I supposedly the United States as a trade deal now
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: with Malaysia and with Vietnam and with all these other countries.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: And we were told a few weeks ago that these
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: trade deals were cut and then we've got a you know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Trump is in Asia right now now, so he has
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: to have a win. So We're heard you know a
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: lot about these trade deals, and I just want to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: remind you their own deals. All these are frameworks. None
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of these frameworks are really real. None of these frameworks
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: of the details being worked out. None of these frameworks
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: lead us towards more liberty, towards more freedom, towards more trade,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: economic freedom, and freedom generally. So they failed by the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: standard of only supported legislation. If it moves you toward freedom,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: they all move us away. They all are worse than
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: what the situation was before Trump got elected, before Trump
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: started on this triff crusade. But you're gonna hear a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: lot about them. And then I think today he's meaning
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: it was she, or tomorrow's meaning with she, you mean
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: it was key and they'll announce a big trade deal.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: There will be no trade deal. It's a framework. Again.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: They have now worked out all the details, and it's
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: not going to be that great. It's not going to
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: be that great. Uh. And if you compare it to
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: again the status quo before Trump started on all this,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: you know the stepper that the status quo before he
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: got started was better. That is, Trump has negotiated us
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: into worse deals, has negotiated us into a worse state
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: of affairs with regard to trade. So I just wanted
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to warn you of that, remind you of that because
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I see a lot of reports, Oh he stuck the
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: steal and I know for you know, I was on
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I was on Dave Ruben and you can find the
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Dave Ruben Show. I think it's on his YouTube channel
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to see if a YouTube channel. Uh, I just love
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: what happened here. Why does this not work? Miroslav? Sorry,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: not Vertie slow, they get vertue luve. Miroslav put up
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the link to the Dave Rubin. They do Dave Rubin Show,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: so check it out. It's about a forty five minute interview. Uh.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think it's it's on YouTube.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: You can you can check out just Dave Rubin's channel
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and check it out. I would check out the comments
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: underneath it. I guess I didn't. I haven't seen the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: comments on YouTube. And I saw the comments on Rumble
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and God with the comments hostile to me. They hated me.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: It didn't they didn't just dislike me. They hated me.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And why because of this? Exactly because of because of
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the very fact that I was against tariffs, and Dave
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: didn't agree with me. So Dave was like saying, yeah,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: but Trump is saying, we're getting really good deals with
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: these countries and we're getting improved trade relations with him.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: And he said, so what he's saying is he lying?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, he's lying. He's lying. Oh, he's ignorant.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, which I think it's both. He's lying and
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: he's ignorant and stupid, but he's lying. And I said that,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: So God, do they hate me? So yeah, Diana says,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: when I look at what your friend has achieved in
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: his life and what Trump has achieved, I'm going with Trump.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: That's a standard, that's a standard, how much money you have.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: And then they go after me on immigration, and they
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: go after me on all this stuff. It's just amazing
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to me, the extent to which I am despised by,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: because in the past, when I first went on Dave
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Rubens show, they love me. I mean, I got so
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: many new subscribers and they really, really really loved me.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, the comments were amazingly positive. And what's changed
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: is not me at all. What changed is Dave's audience.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Dave's audience has changed completely and now it's a manga audience.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: It's an audience committed to manga, and that's interesting. So
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: but check out the interview. I think I think you'll
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: enjoy it. And yeah, you know, you'll see a slice
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: of the world if you check out the comments. All right,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: what did I I did get it. I think I've
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: gotten a small bump from that. Yeah, yeah, I definitely
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: got a small bump. So i'd say you have about
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: twenty subscribers I think from Dave Ruben Show, so there's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: definitely a little bump up. It's not the days where
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I got hundreds of new subscribers from the Dave Ruben Show,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: hundreds literally hundreds. But it's not bad. You know, I
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: need these bumps because organically it's it's pretty slow. So
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I will I will take it. Okay, So trade deals
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: not really deals, not really deals. And then also want
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to say, it's just a little bit about you know,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: what's going on with the US military. And first of all,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: there's only in a certificate intensification of the military and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the concentration of the military in the Caribbean Sea. There's
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: now I think the aircraft carrier Forward is heading towards
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the southern Caribbean and close to Venezuela. So so when
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you get an aircraft carrier, you're getting serious. So it's
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: leaving I think the Mediterranean and heading towards the Caribbean.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe there are any day now and so, and then
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: they continue to just bomb boats. I mean, this is
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: one of the things I just don't get. I'm curious
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: from the Trump lovers out there, what you think. How
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: is it legit for the US government to just bomb
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: boats because they think those boats are carrying drugs without
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: any need for proof. I mean, this is not a war.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: There's no war. And you know, cartels are not terrorists,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and what cartels are bad and they're hubbable, and they
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: might be circumstances which you want to blow them out of,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you know, attack them if they're trying to commit acts
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: of violence against Americans, but they're not. You're not fighting
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: them in America. You find them in Caribbean c and
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: boats that can't reach America. Those boats cannot reach America
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: from where they're being launched. They'd have to stop to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: refuel twenty times. And you're just bombing them. There's no
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: list of most wanted like they offer the terrorists and
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: we're using drones to kill the most wanted ones. No,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: we're just just bombing boats because we think maybe they
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: have drugs, you know, where drugs are not an enemy
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that kills. Drugs don't kill. Sorry, drugs don't kill any
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: more than you know. People are really particularly conservatives by
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: the guns kill, and they go guns don't kill, people kill,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: And there's true to that. Guns don't kill, people kill.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Drugs don't kill, you know, and drugs don't kill people kill,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: people commit suicide. People choose to take drugs. They choose
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: to take drugs, and some of those drugs are laced
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: of fence and on. Everybody knows that they choose to
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: take the risk. Drugs don't kill. The cartels don't. I
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: mean they kill over wars related to drugs, to the
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: drug trade, the gangster wars. But they're not killing that
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: many Americans. Most of those that killing is going on
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: in Mexico in other Latin American countries. Some die in America,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: and the cartel should be stuffed from doing that. But
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: drugs don't kill, and drugs are out of violation of
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: individual rights. And it's not the job of government to
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: blow people up out of their boats. I mean, it's
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: just shocking to me that nobody seems to care. Really,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's almost no nobody. The United States government
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: is basically ordering it's military, I mean blow up boats.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I mean. Good for the general who's in charge of
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the Southern Command, who basic he said, I think, I mean,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: was he resigned a few weeks ago. This isn't what
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I signed up for. I signed to defend the lives
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and property of America, to defend its interest. This isn't it.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: This is just some macho bs of af flexing muscles
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and showing the world how bruto we are, how savage
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: we are. How you can support this as an objectivist
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. You know again, drug should be legal
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: in an objectivist world. This is not a policy that
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: moves us towards more freedom. It moves us away from freedom.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Are there a lot of tolls today in the chat?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I don't see that. That's interesting. Yeah. I haven't followed
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: the chat closely, so I haven't noticed them. But good,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: you know, it's good that I'm knowing the chat. I
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people who listen to the show
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: after the fact, they're very happy by that. So, yeah,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: the military is being used there. And look, there's a
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: precursor here. If Americas start thinking and agreeing that yeah,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: it's okay to blow up boats because the foreigners, and
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: they might be cut to tell members. We're not sure
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: if they cut tell members. But you know, somebody said
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: on the chat the other day, people outside America don't
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: have rights. Well, yeah, paigners don't have rights. That's very bizarre.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Nocean of Rights writs a universal. So maybe because I had,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's a lot of trolls, because Nick
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Foyntis's name is in the title, that could be possible.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe when I talk about Nick Foyenttis will get even
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: more all right to do it. I mean lots of
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: is good for the it's good for the show, it's
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: good for the algorithm. Anyway, Once we get conditioned to
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: blowing up random people in boats in the Caribbean Sea
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: as long as they're not an American, and we get rid,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: and we get we get used to ice arresting people
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: randomly because of kind of their skin and then maybe
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: releasing the Americans after the fact. But once we get
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: used to the fact that the government can use can
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: just engage in random initiation of force wherever it wants to,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: whenever it wants to. Then the next step is what
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Trump told us I think today or yesterday on air
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: plos one. He basically said, yeah, there's certain acts I
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: can put you know, I can put into place and
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: nobody will question me, the judges won't won't stop me,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: and that'll allow me to use the military anywhere I want,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: everywhere I want in America. And somebody asked me, you
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: mean more than the National Guard? He said, yeah, the Marines,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the Navy, the Army, you know, everything in America. So
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: what now we blow up I don't know, people we
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: might think of criminals. Why are we bothering depoting illegal immigrants?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Why don't we just blow up the buildings in which
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: they live and be done with it. By the way,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding, just because I know that people on here
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: are going, Yes, that's exactly what we should do. No,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: I mean talk about you know, violating rights. This idea
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: of just deploying the US military in the US with
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: no guardrails, no limitations, deploying the US military to kill,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: deploying the entire US military beyond the National Guard, and
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Trump believing that he has the full authority and nobody
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: can stop him from doing it. I mean, it's true
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: that we do not have an a congress anymore, that
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the Congress is completely I'm looking for this guy, all right,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: he's the one I supposed to block. Okay, all right,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I've been told to block somebody, so let me let
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: me just block him. Ah all right, that didn't work. Uh, Tom,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: where is he? I saw him? There? He is? Okay,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: all right, Tom, hide user on this channel. Okay, use
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: of Stalin is gone. I mean that combination use of
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: fans Stalin, that was a dead giveaway. I'm not reading
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: the chat, but my wife texted me and said block
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: use of Stalin, and I do what my wife tells
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: me generally in like, so that's good. So yeah, you
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: of Stalin gave me one hundred dollars. No you, sus
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Stalin didn't give me a hundred dollars. Uh rahasam give
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: me one hundred dollars, not use of Stallin? All right? Uh?
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: What what else do I want to say about that
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: military use? I mean again, nobody's challenging, nobody questioning. Uh,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: it's it's it really is just unbelievable. And we'll get
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: to why in a minute, because we'll talk about fo intest.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: You know, just a wood on Trump corruption, just just
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: just a note on this. Right, over the last six months,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the Trump family have made eight hundred million dollars eight
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars of profit encrypt dope, almost all of
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: it with foreign investors. I mean, if the Biden and
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: family was a crime family, as many of you argued,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: what is Trump family. I mean, it's like it's like
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Doctor Evil from from James Bond movies. I don't know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: but it's like so much more like remember when you
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: made a big deal out of Hunter Biden's board membership.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, what the Trump family is doing. The amount
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: of money they're getting from from Kocher in Saudi Arabia
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: and Pakistan all these places is just so unbelievable. You
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: saw the Indonesian presidents say, hey, have your sons called me?
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Have your sons called me? I mean, what's that about?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: If not, that's kind of deal. Eight hundred million dollars supposedly,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you know, if you add up everything all the you know,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: they made three point two billion dollars since inauguration day.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: And this is the difference between Biden and Trump and
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: This is being the difference between every other politician except
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: in Trump. Biden hit it, Biden was embarrassed by it.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Biden thought it was a black mark. Biden, you know,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: never admitted to it. Trump, on the other hand, celebrates it,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: is proud of it, is out there in the world,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: letting everybody know about it. I mean, his corruption is
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: completely out in the open. It's a completely it's an
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: open book. He'll tell you, and nobody cares. I mean,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: this is impeachable, easily impeachable. And there is no Congress.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: There's just no Congress. Congress is gone, so nobody else,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: there's nobody else to do the job. Congress is gone.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Although Congress that today vote against Trump. They voted against
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: his taris in Brazil. Literally there was a bill in
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: the Senate. Two it won't pass the House, but it
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: was a bill in a Senate to to do away
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: with the fifty percent tariffs on Brazil. And I think
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: four Republicans voted for it, ran Paul Mitch, McConnell, Susan
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Collins and what's her name McCluskey, and so so it won.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Now I think Trump could veto it, so when never
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: become law. But this starting a little bit on tariffs
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: because tarrafs is just TAS is just embarrassing. It's so stupid, Sorry,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Dave woman listeners, TASA is just embarrassing, and congressmen and
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: senators are hearing from their local small businesses who are
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: really struggling because of taris all right. Finally, this topic
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: that you almost feel like you have to wash yourself
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: for discussing or after discussing, I don't know. At some
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: point during the discussion, and that is Nick Foyantis, uh
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: and uh. Nick Foyantis was a guest on a techer
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Calson and you know, the antident has blown up about this. Uh,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Twitter in particular has blown up about this, and it's
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: it's really fascinating to me. Tekerkauson is considered and I
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: think it's true that he is. And this is the
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: terrifying thing. Tucker Cousin is still considered kind of mainstream
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Republican representative of the conservative movement. He he speaks at
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: he speaks at Turning Point USA. He's within the bounds
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: of acceptability in the Republican Party. This is the same
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: techer Causon that you know has guests on the question
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the evil of the not season. He kind of nods along.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: This is the Tucker Cosson that thinks Putsin is amazing,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: that Russian supermarkets are the best and the subway station
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: is the greatest in human history. This is the Tucker
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Causon who blames who's come to blame everything on the Jews.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: It's a Tucker cousin who hates Israel and who said recently,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: maybe it was the interview with nik foyentis that the
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: people who hates most in the world, most in the
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: world are Christian Zionists, Christians who love Israel. They are
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the worst in the world. He hates them. This Tucher
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: costs them with those ideas. His anti Semitic ideas is
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: for Russian ideas, his anti American ideas, his rejection of
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: all of the fundamental principles of America. His flirtation with
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Nazism or Holocaust denial or maybe not Holocaust denial, denial
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: of the evil of Hitler in the Nazis that is
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: still considered mainstream. He's still invited by Turning Point Usa
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: to speak on stage. Well, now there's an effort to
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: to expand the tent even further. Right, we saw that
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: with the with the text messages between these Republican operatives
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: that were filled of racist it just you know, antisemitic,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: but also just celebration of rape and all kinds of
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: other stuff, just horrible stuff. What is this You've got
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: another one? Oh, we've got another one with a swastika.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I think anybody who has a swastika is history, right,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I don't care if they even ask me a question.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm going to spend all my
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: time now on my town now getting rid of these people.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe so somebody, uh my wife is letting me know
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: who else I should block. Oh she said he came
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: back anyway, I noticed it. So, but who's this Nick Goods?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Is he also somebody that needs to be blocking? I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: need a moderator, I know. Oh yeah, well yeah, all right,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: let's block this guy too. Uh yeah, it's because I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Nick Foytus is mentioned. That's why they're all here, right,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: it's allays guepers Anyway, The decision is now I guess
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: being made that the Republicans really need an even big attempt,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: that the fact that they continue to include Taker Cosson
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: has now softened them too. Real supporters of Nazis to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: real ju haters, ones that don't try to hedge and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: don't have to pretend to real racists, to real white nationalists.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, why stop, Patucker Carlson, Why not go all
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: the way? You know we had we had those text
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: messages between the Republicans young Republicans that were just just
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: horrible and uh and you remember Matt Will said, oh no,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: it's a big tent. We have to include them. We
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: have to fight the left. We have to beat the left. Well, okay,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: we have to beat the left. We have to take
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: all these really ugly human beings saying really horrible things
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: that used to be completely unacceptable in conservative circles. We
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: have to embrace them because we have to beat the left.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: We have to accept Tucker Carlson because look, we have
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: to beat the left. And he's Stocker Carlson. He's got
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: millions of people who listen to him, and he you know,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't yet come out. No, he has,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: but he hasn't come out completely as a white nationalist.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: And he hasn't come out out as a as a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: as an anti semi. Nick foyentis is an anti semi. No,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: he's out and out unequivocal anti semi. I've seen enough
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: of Nick Foyantis's material where it's not even close, it's
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: not even little. He's not an anti Zionist, He's an
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: anti semi. It's the Jewish bankers, it's the elders of Zion.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: It's interesting that I blocked these two people. Like fifty
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: people disappeared from watching the show, so the groupas all
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: went away all at the same time. Yeah, but no, guys,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Nick Foyantis is an I've seen it. I haven't brought
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: the all the testimonies because I don't need to, and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go back and watch. You know,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: there's only so much time that is justified spending in
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: the sewers. And Nick Foyenttis is the sewer. And I
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: know some of you watch him, and but he is,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: without any question, without any question, he is an antisemmon.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: And and Dave Smith, Dave Smith today came out, you know,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Dave Smith came out today. Where was this Steve Smith?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Dave Smith says the techer for interesting episode was great.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: The people clutching their pose about it are ridiculous. These
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: types of conversations are the only positive way forward. Yes,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: so Dave Smith. Yeah, I mean Nick for is Dave Smith.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: What's the difference. Dave Smith, you know, can't hide behind
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: is just you know, he's a hater Israel and he's
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: an anti Simmon. So Dave the Dave supports expanding the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Republican umbrella, expanding the umbrella of civilized conversation to include
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: anti Semites, to include racist, include white nationalists. And don't
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: say being a white nationalist is not racist. That is racist. Uh,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: you know, and liking Dave Smith is not a virtue,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: it's a vice. It doesn't matter. You know, There've always
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: been anti Semitic Jews. You know, we've we've seen a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: bunch of Jews just embrace and endorse what's his name,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Mamdani in New York. Yeah. Every time I say like
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Nikoyntis is an anti semi two twenty people drop drop
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: my feet. There's another bunch of winds. Now, it's pretty funny.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: There is some buffering going on. I apologize that Wi
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Fi gods have not been appeased by your sacrifice. You
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: need a you need to you need to sacrifice some more.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Intensify your sacrifice, Intensify your prayers. Now twenty people join.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I've never seen YouTube as volatile as it is right
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: now in terms of a number of viewers. It's it's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: kind of funny anyway. I think the decisions made to
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: being f Intis into the tent and Tucker Carlson is
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: the way in. And he did a two hour interview
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: with Nikcoyentis where you know, softball after softball left to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: stopall It's interesting he didn't ask Nikfoyantis how many people
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: lived in Iran? What the population of you on is?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: You remember he asked that of Ted Cruz, who he
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: considers a devil. Now Ted Cruise is like eviler than communists.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: He didn't challenge Nikfoyenttis when Nikcointis said he loves Stalin
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: and generally didn't push him on the things we know.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Nick Foyintis says. He didn't push him on an anti Semitism,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: He didn't push them on white nationalism. He didn't push
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: him on any of these things. He kind of had
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: a He basically did everything in his power to normalize
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Nick Foyantes, to make Nick Foyantes look normal, look nice,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: look friendly, look funny, as Chandler says, but Nick Foyantes
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: is a monster. I mean, he's not a monster in
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: a sense that I think he can actually a cheap power.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Although he has a real charismal with people. I find him,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, disgusting just looking at him. Roland, thank you
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: for the additional sacrifices for the Wi Fi gods. He
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: looks slimy and disgusting, but he has an appeal. He
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: has an appeal and you know, I'm sure in some
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: sick way he is funny. I'm sure that he finds
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: ways to present. I mean, the main thing that he
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: appeals to is he says things that nobody else will say.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: People are attracted to kind of the fringe, particularly on
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: the side of evil, the bad boy, the guy who
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: will say the stuff and nobody else says it, will
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: say the stuff. A lot of people are thinking deep
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: down or or is willing to say stuff that causes
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: people to think about because they're so ignorant. They don't know.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: They don't know what hit actually did. They don't know
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: anything about World War Two, they don't know anything about
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Stalin or any of these things. So why not? Yeah,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I don't take so, I mean I don't know this
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: to me in my view. In my view, this to
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  Speaker 1: me is really the death of the right, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't don't see how the right recovers from this. I
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  Speaker 1: really don't see how the right recovers from this. If
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  Speaker 1: you add the number of people who watch Candice, the
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  Speaker 1: include in that, you know, goipers were always okay, they're
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  Speaker 1: over there, we don't they don't count. But when you
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: include now the goipers a million people watching for interests,
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  Speaker 1: the right is finished. The right is now you know,
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  Speaker 1: basically it's antisemitic because it's defined by its most consistent adherents.
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  Speaker 1: And the most consistent adherents are the anti semites, the racist,
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  Speaker 1: the white nationalists, the fascists. That's what the right has become.
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  Speaker 1: It's become a fascist right, and that's what the appeal
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  Speaker 1: is to a lot of people are saying that, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how seriously you take it, that this
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  Speaker 1: is a play for JD. Vance, that jd Vance is
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  Speaker 1: afraid of Nick Foyantis. Nick Foyantis has been going after J. Devans.
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  Speaker 1: Why does he go after Jdvans Because Jadvance has a
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  Speaker 1: according to Nick Foyans, and that is a disqualified right.
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  Speaker 1: He's a racist. I guess our cult is a racist too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, this is the Republican Party. It's
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  Speaker 1: a racist party. It's unbelievable for me to say that
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  Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan's political party is an out and out racist party,
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  Speaker 1: because now it is embraced. Tucker calls a Nick Foyantis
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  Speaker 1: Nick Frantees a while back, not sure exactly when, but
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  Speaker 1: he debated Nick Frantis. Charlie Cook was really pissed off
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  Speaker 1: at Danish, and here I agree completely with Charlie. Charlie
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  Speaker 1: has some good characteristics. Charlie texted Danish and said, don't
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  Speaker 1: debate him, you're giving him attention. And now Dennis says, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, but but but I challenge fointers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you gave him a platform, you treated him as
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  Speaker 1: And then he writes, but now Tucka has done what
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  Speaker 1: Charlie feared most platform fointers and give him a friendly,
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  Speaker 1: uncritical hearing. But that's inevitable denish once you're willing to debate,
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  Speaker 1: once you're willing to debate. Okay, there's something to debate here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's platform the guy. Let's talk to him. So Denisian
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  Speaker 1: does not see how he was part of the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Coch was absolutely right. You've got to cut the cancer.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to cut these people off, not debate them,
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  Speaker 1: not engage with them, suddenly, not platform them. But debating
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  Speaker 1: is platforming. It's a full platforming. You got to cancel them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm all for cancel culture. Suddain views should be canceled completely.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the fact is that now for intists will
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  Speaker 1: get much bigger after the Culson and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people will be seduced by his relative moderation on Tucker
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  Speaker 1: Culson to go listen to him, and will be radicalized
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  Speaker 1: because he has that impact on people. He has whatever
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  Speaker 1: that charisma is. I mean, Hitler is charismatic. Go figure,
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  Speaker 1: so Spuantis, go figure. I mean, if you look at Hitler,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem charismatic, showed ugly, a stupid mustache, slick hair,
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  Speaker 1: unbelievably unattractive. And this is now going to be part
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  Speaker 1: Zionists a dangerous heresy within Christianity. He named by Kuckabee,
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  Speaker 1: So these are the people they want to kick out
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  Speaker 1: do they want to bring in? Nick Foynders. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is going happening much faster than even I thought. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I was talking about Vance. So the idea is that
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  Speaker 1: Dvance is one the Nicks will attack him when he
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  Speaker 1: runs for president in three years from the right, and
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  Speaker 1: he wants to neutralize for Antis, and the way to
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  Speaker 1: neutralize him is to bring him into the umbrella so
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  Speaker 1: that he doesn't criticize Jade Vans and the way to
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  Speaker 1: do that is for Tucker Carlson, who is really, really,
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  Speaker 1: really good friends with Jade Vans. That should tell you
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  Speaker 1: a lot about j Evans. For Tucker Carlson to bridge
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  Speaker 1: the gap. Tucker Carlson is an emissary from Vance, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll see. It'll be interesting to see if Forentus moderates
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  Speaker 1: his attack on Advance. I doubt it. For Intus, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it is going to play that game anyway. Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: The whole thing is interesting again. Republican Party descending into racist,
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  Speaker 1: fascist hell faster than I expected. But this is an
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  Speaker 1: indication of that. That is exactly what is happening. As
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  Speaker 1: bad Palumbo rights, Nick Foynts won. He's mainstream now. The
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  Speaker 1: year's long effort which I participated in to gatekeeper the
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  Speaker 1: anti Semitic hate for freaks out of the Republican Party
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  Speaker 1: and the Conservative movement have failed. You can object to
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  Speaker 1: this and leave the Republican Party as I have, But
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  Speaker 1: to pretend the strict standards of decency or integrity still
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  Speaker 1: exist in the modern conservative movement is to delude himself yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's absolutely right, and of course Dave Smith
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  Speaker 1: is celebrating because the more can join the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the disgusting anti Jewish, anti Israeli, you know, anti American crowd,
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  Speaker 1: the happier they are. I mean, ultimately, we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: an anarchist. So what do you expect? I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Fank says, the vacuum of cultural bankruptcy. I mean the vacuum,
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  Speaker 1: all the universities, all the universally accept scientific and technological
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  Speaker 1: progress we've made all around the world can't just vanish
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  Speaker 1: like when Rome collapsed. But Germany was the most scientifically
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  Speaker 1: the Nazis. Yeah, individual countries can whole regions can. I
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  Speaker 1: so interesting. It's about the Enlightenment in Central Asia. It
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  Speaker 1: large extent the Golden Age of Central Asia. It was
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  Speaker 1: a golden Age, but the primary Golden Age from about
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred to about eleven hundred, most of the achievement
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  Speaker 1: philosophically and scientifically from medicine. Most of those achievement in
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  Speaker 1: bujal Uzbekistan, Pakistan, you know, Afghanistan. Afghanistan was a thriving
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  Speaker 1: advanced civilization. Blew my mind right to Kaministan all the
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  Speaker 1: way to the Chinese border. That whole region was unbelievably
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  Speaker 1: flourishing and booming and exciting, excited with intellectuals doing work
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  Speaker 1: where of the fall, but we know what that region
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  Speaker 1: out of Kazakhstan or any any part of that world? Nothing? Zero.
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  Speaker 1: They have been in the dark Ages since the twelve hundreds,
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  Speaker 1: they collapsed in such a major way. It's a bigger
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  Speaker 1: Dark Ages and more extreme because of what is going
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  Speaker 1: this Enlightenment that happened there was all really a consequence
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  Speaker 1: evisceration of that is a combination of military and political weakness,
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  Speaker 1: Enlightenment values that we still have in the world. So
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  Speaker 1: that is the longest stock ages I know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the way the central Asian cities are described,
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  Speaker 1: never heard of these cities and they were the biggest
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  Speaker 1: richest cities in the world at the time. Have you
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  Speaker 1: I think just unbelievably wealthy and intellectually, culturally thriving and
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  Speaker 1: it all goes away. It's Agazali, but it's not only
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  Speaker 1: that was done. It was already moving in that direction anyway.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, that's a whole other I could you know,
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  Speaker 1: even very advanced civilizations, can be wiped out. Usually there's
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  Speaker 1: they can't cut it. They go back. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: have any specific reference. I'm sorry, I'll check. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have any of my books here with me, but I'll check.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: But generally, I think books on immigration, of the history
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: of immigration in the nineteenth century, just American history books
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  Speaker 1: usually talk about that. I've even seen statistics. It's a
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: pretty large number that go back. I mean, I would
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: ask chatchupt we can do it right now. We could
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: ask chatchapt how many the percentage of immigrants that went
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: that went back after immigrating, immigrating to the United States,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: you know what percentage.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Of immigrants in nineteenth century immigrants to America too than
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: come went back back to native country.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: And tragbts thinking about this, But it will, it will
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: get it will get back to us. In just here
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  Speaker 1: it is. There's no single definitive percentage of the nineteen
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  Speaker 1: centy imigration in the US who returned to the home
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: margin for particular groups, the return rate varied widely. I've
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  Speaker 1: read that, for example, among immigrants from Italy to the
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  Speaker 1: United States between eighteen ninety nine and nineteen twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: approximately forty six percent returned home. This is according to Wikipedia,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: and there's probably a sourcid Wikipedia that Ryan you could
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  Speaker 1: go to. In a breakdown by ethnicity for eighteen ninety
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  Speaker 1: nine to nineteen twenty four, some groups show return rates
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  Speaker 1: of fourteen to twenty four percent, while others Italy, Hungry, Greece,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Romania show much higher return rates from fifty four to
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: sixty six percent. So a reasonable estimate on the order
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  Speaker 1: of thirty to fifty percent of immigrants during the late
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: nineteenth century and twentieth century returned home, depending on their olgy,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: and that seems high to me. It doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 1: they're taking into a come. Maybe Russian and Eastern European
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  Speaker 1: immigrants I think returned home at a lower rate. I
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: think Italy and Greece, Romania, Hungary, those were high rates,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: but I think Eastern Europe were lower rates, or the
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Hungary's east. So anyway, I mean, that's an interesting topic.
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  Speaker 1: But unfortunately, Ryan, I don't have I don't have the answer.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, certainly a phenomena, phenomena none, a phenomena none,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: not phenomena. I'm not supposed to say phenomena. It's just
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: wrong to say phenomena. Mic Up, how do you chatted
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: with Grouk or your chatchy tea about iron Ran or objectivism?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: It would be interesting to hear your take on this
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: grass of the philosophy. No, I haven't, I mean superficially,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: I've asked them questions and answers are pretty good. The
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: problem is that what you get from my experience with
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: these kind of questions is that you get ninety percent
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: right and about ten percent wrong. But that's ten percent
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: wrong undermines the ninety percent that's right, particularly if it's
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: presented as the definitive, definitive statement about objectivism. I wonder
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: if Graw concent you bed have access to opah lantapeacups
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: objectives of the philosophy of iron Ran. That would make
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: if we could get it access to OPAH. I think
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: it would have a much better grasp of objectivism. I
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: mean it doesn't have a grasp of objectives. It would
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: be able to regurgitate objectivism much better if it had
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: OPAH as a resource. It has a lot of iron
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: Rand's essays, which is good, but I have it really
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: in a study of it so I could really comment
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: in detail. Lyyon Texas has numerous propositions on the ballot
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: to exempt certain groups veterans elderly from various taxes. Seems
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: better to vote against these since they just reinforced pressure
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: group politics thoughts. I agree. I even though some people
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: will pay less taxes and that's good, I also think
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: it's just wrong because, particularly if the state is not
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: cutting spending, at the end of the day, somebody makes
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: up the shortfall, and that means somewhere, somehow they have
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: to raise more revenue. And you might say, well, Texas
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: is running a simplest I don't know if they are,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: but let's say they're running a simplest. Well, they won't always.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: But also if they're running a simplus, you know they
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: should just cut taxes across the board to everybody and
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: eliminate certain taxes across the board. Would be nice if
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: they just eliminated property taxes, but for everybody, on all
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: your homes, not just on your first home. Just eliminate
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: property taxes, all of them. Flowidas there. Doing a half
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: assed job of that better than nothing, but half assed
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: the sender. I am super edgy around. I was super
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: edgy around sixteen, but when I saw that many people
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: around me weren't kidding, it really made me question what
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: I was doing. And when I read Atlas, it really
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: put into perspective how serious the issues involved are. Yeah,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, I don't know what kind of edgy
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: you were. I mean, I don't think I was edgy
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: at sixteen before I read it Atlas, but you know,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: but I was. I was a socialist, I was, I
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: was definitely thinking about issues, But I don't know what
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: edgy was in those days. Suddenly, without social media and
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: without the Internet, the whole definition of edginess and the
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: extent of a genius is different. But yeah, I mean,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: it's great that you read at leash when you did,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: and they had such a huge impact on you, Jamie.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: My friends think billionaires shouldn't exist when there are many
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: people in the world in poverty. Can you explain the
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: economics of why they're wrong in a way even a
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: teenager could understand? I mean yeah, I mean two things.
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  Speaker 1: One is, even if you took all the wealth from
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: all the billionaires and distribute it to people who are poor,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter. Just do the math. It's just insignificant.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: The amount of money you would actually give all these
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: billions of people just wouldn't make that much difference in
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: their lives. But more importantly, billionaires make it possible for
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: people to rise out of poverty permanently. Billionaires or what
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: you know, a huge contributor, a disproportionate contributor to economic growth,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: economic prosperity, to job creations. Billionaires create jobs. Now, they
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: don't create jobs. They create jobs as entrepreneurs. They create
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: jobs as they big, as they grow business. And then
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: when the businesses are large, they create jobs. They hire people,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: and the people who work for the so called billionaires
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: they create jobs because they have good incomes. They then
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: go and consume creating work for shops and grocery stores
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: and gardeners and all kinds of other professions. And this
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: is how they When you create a company, and when
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: you start employing people, the amount of you know, the
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: amount of wealth that you're creating broadly, and the amount
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: of your ability to trade with people, and the value
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: creation that the poor have now access to. The only
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: way to get out of poverty is more billionaires. I
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: give you, you know, for every for every dollar of
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: wealth in the world out there that Microsoft is created,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: I think Bill Gates has gained to him for himself,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: maybe two cents maybe less. Of the wealth created goes
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: to people out there, people that trade with the company,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: people who use the products, and that all filters down
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: to poor people and helps them rise up. And then
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: I'll add to that, I mean there We'll get to
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: some other different arguments in a minute. But one other thing.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: The products that the billion is create, computers, cell phones,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: what do you call it? Artificial intelligence and so on.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: These are products that make it possible for people who,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: you know, let's have limited ability to increase their productivity dramatically, dramatically.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: You don't have to read a gazillion books. You can
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: use AI. You know, AI is a tool that makes
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: less productive people more productive and they're were wealthier. That's
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: all economic arguments, but ultimately The issue is who they are.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: For your friends, like, what gives them the right to
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: decide how much money anybody, one person should have. What
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: gives them the right to tell people what they can
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: keep and what they can keep, what they have to
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: give away, and what they can give away, what's good
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: or what isn't. Even if billionaires didn't contribute one iota
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: to the poor, it is so what. It's their money.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: They created it, they built it, they made it. They
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: didn't steal it from anybody. It's not a zero s world.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: So who are they? What if I came to them
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: and said, oh you have you have your iPhone? The
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: people in the world who don't have iPhones, take the
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: iPhones away, take the clothes away, take their nice houses away,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: take their cause away. Who gets to make these decisions
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: and who gives them the right to make those decisions?
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: Force is evil, and the only way to get rid
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: of billionaires is using force. Using evil. Nothing good comes
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: from the use of evil. All right, Let's see, we
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: have this question from somebody who never listens to show
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  Speaker 1: live but send me send me a donation through PayPal.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: The questions regarding advice on how to get your kids
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: into objectivesm I have to teenage kids, a seventeen year
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  Speaker 1: old and a fifteen year old daughter seventeen year old son.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: So far, I presented objectives until them, mainly by example
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: and dated day advice. There are products of that and
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: are good, rational kids with self esteem. I'm very proud
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: of them. I do believe that in order to really
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: have a consistent, fulfilling life, learning objectivism is necessary. I'm
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: sure I wouldn't be nearly as happy and fulfilled if
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: it weren't for my systematic approach to learning objectivism. So far,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: I haven't been able to encourage them to start learning
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: more by themselves. Unfortunately, they don't have a strong reading
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: habit and don't seem to their I don't see them
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: picking up the fountain where I'd shrugged at this stage
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: in their lives. Even long essays have been a challenge
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: for me to make them read. To get them to read,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: I don't want to force them to read things, but
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: they haven't been able to motivate them enough to do
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: it themselves at this point their lives. In their lives,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: they are passionate and interested in other things. Look, I
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: get that, and partial by the fact that they've lived
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: with you, and they've lived by your example. They don't
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: think they need it because they think they've gotten everything
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: by example. But look, kids don't know what they need.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: I had the same approach with my kids, and I
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: regret it to some extent. I regret not being more
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: involved in their philosophical thinking or lack of it in
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: their early teens mid teen years, and being more aggressive
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: about it, and not in terms of nasty and forcing,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: but finding ways, maybe reading a book together and having
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: weekly discussion sessions about it, and you know, maybe you
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: could drive them to do it. Maybe give them one
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars for every session and keep the chapter short.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: And look, you should be worried about the fact that
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: they don't read. They don't read essays, and they won't
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: read a book. That's not good. It's not good for them,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: and the fact that the schools don't force them to
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: read is really bad. They shouldn't be able to graduate
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: from high school without reading Lemmy's Robblers by Hugo, without
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: reading Dostyevsky, without reading a real book of substance and
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: of length. So the fact that they're not motivated to
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: read should be a rig flag. So she should find
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: ways to encourage, motivate, inspire, force them to read. They
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: want certain poks. They still live under your house, suddenly
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: the fifteen year old, they still live under your house.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: They still expect certain pokes. Well, they should read. That's
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: a minimum requirement. My kids read Athleashak and The found
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: Head in their teens, but we didn't study the ideas,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: and I regret that. I think if we had set
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: up a study, a little study group where we'd meet
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: once a week and read a section of Opah and
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: go through the whole book over two three years as
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: a fun I think, fun family thing. And even if they,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: you know, try to do it every week, try to
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: do it really consistently. I think that would be bonding
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: and I think that would be you know, it would
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: be part of it. A quiet education I took too.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: I think it was too loose, just like youre innocence,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: and I think that was wrong. I think I think
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: saying look, you have to read, learn writing, reading the
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: certain things you have to learn when you're really young.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: And there's certain things in teenage years that you should learn.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: Tools for living and objectives philosophies want of them. You
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: can reject it afterwards. But you need to learn it.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: You need to know what you're rejecting. And I don't
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: think reading the novels is enough, particularly for kids who've
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: grown up around objectives and don't think much of it.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: It's studying the ideas and seeing them, and then they'll
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: thank you later in life. I think so that I
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: think is I think that's I think that's what I
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: would do today. How to implement that exactly? Again, I
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: think bribing them with money is a good way. Thinking
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: about all the polks that you provide them, the rights
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: that you give them, the car that you might buy them,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: things like that, making all of those things conditional in
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: them reading or doing a study group with you. It'd
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: be fun for you, hopefully it would be fund for them.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: You could test your own understanding of objectives in that way,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: teach it to them, and maybe maybe use it as
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: as an opportunity to find fund ways to conquatize and
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: make examples of the different aspects of things. Gamify it
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: in some way for them for the weekly gathering that
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: you do. Anyway, that's what I would do, if I
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: did it, could do it over, if I could rewind,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: I would do that. Thank you. I really appreciate the support.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: All right, Roland says, here's my prayer for the Wi
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: Fi gods. Hope they take Swiss Franks. They absolutely take
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: Swiss Fanks. Don't worry about it. Robert Jash got back
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: from arc UK's irreplaceable spark confidence and while nothing compares
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: to Ocon, of course, I can report it was great
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: time while worth going. Yeah, I mean, hanging out with
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: a bunch of objectivists and ivan, you know, intelligence speakers
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: help you know, it's always going to be good. Uh,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: it's always gonna be good. And I understand. Lenapeako spoke
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: on Rag. I always thought it was rag time, but
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: I guess it's rag music, and that's just fun music.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: And it's just it's just very benevolent and full of energy.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: And it sounded like everybody had a good time. That's great.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: Islam Ali, have you thought of formally advising me? Lay? Yeah,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, he he's not interested in my advice. He
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: he knows, you know, he thinks he knows it, and
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: he's got people around him. Uh. So I've given him
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: my book. He promised to read it, he said. I
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: assume he would have contacted me if he thought it
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: was inspiring, if he called me and asked me me
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: to advise him, I would. I would gladly do it.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Gladly do it. Michael. Someone is running away from an
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: AX murderer and the only way to escape is by
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: running through your home. Do you have a right to
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: do They have a right to. No, but they should
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: do it anyway, right, I mean, they don't have a
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: right to it's your home. But you know this is
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: a this is a case where violating rights in the
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: face of an AX murderer is okay. You could also
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: argue that the rights violation is the AX murderer by
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: by chasing you, Right, you wouldn't be going through the causal.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: The causal, the rights violation is actually the AX murderer.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: You running through the home is not their violation of rights.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: It's Aximo, who are forcing you in a sense to
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: run through the home. That is the violation of rights.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: So absolutely they should run through their house. Michael. Are
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: we moving towards an age of hatred? Yeah? I mean
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: I think we're already are in there. I think we've
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: been in there probably since COVID, and it's getting worse. Michael.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: It's not as if Cannice Owen and Tucker Carlson decided
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: to be anti Semitic, they saw there was a growing
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: demand for it and pivoted to the bigotry for views
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: and money. I don't think so. I don't think so.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: I think they. I think they went through a conversion.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Remember this is this is a Tucker Carlson who got
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: scratched by demons. I don't think he got strapped by
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: demons because somebody paid him to. I think the guy's
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: gun nuts and his ideology has become mystical in barbaric
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: and mystics and barbarics often tilt towards anti Semitism. Now,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: I think Candice has gone through multiple process. You can
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: see the deterioration and it's incremental. Now do they also
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: get money from the Kataris or the Russians? I don't know. Maybe,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: but I don't think that's the primary. I think that
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: might be at an incentive, but it's not the primary. Michael,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: Is it rational for joy and grief to coexist for
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: hate and love? Yes? Right? Grief and hate are survival values, right.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, grief is when you lose a value and
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: it's important that you feel bad when you lose a value.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: Enjoy is when you gain a value, and you need
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: to feel good. So it signals what's good and what's bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's telling you an emotional level. Explicitly, hate is reminding
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  Speaker 1: you these people are bad for you. They're destructive, they
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  Speaker 1: will do you harm, stay away from them, or destroy
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  Speaker 1: them on the context. So hates is a very productive emotion.
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  Speaker 1: I'm all. I'm completely in favor of hate and love.
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  Speaker 1: More importantly, love is the positive. So no, there's completely
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  Speaker 1: rational because they are there. They are signaling something. If
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  Speaker 1: your emotions are aligned with your values, they're signaling what
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  Speaker 1: to avoid and what whatnot the emotional reminders of that. Michael,
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  Speaker 1: will mum, Donny be significantly worse than Deblasio? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you will be worse, and
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  Speaker 1: certainly symbolically he will be a lot worse. How much
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  Speaker 1: worse is hard to tell. I don't know enough about
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  Speaker 1: the powers of the mayor as compared to everything else,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, anyway, it's it's I I I just
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  Speaker 1: don't know. He could. I think he'll be worse, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about how much because I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how the powers of the Mayor
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  Speaker 1: of New York wook. Michael Zorn winning the mayor's race
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  Speaker 1: will enhance socialism, Yes, in the Democratic Party, the way
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  Speaker 1: socialists being enhanced in the the way social has been
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  Speaker 1: enhanced in the GOP through the success of Mega. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I think both parties are going towards their y you
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  Speaker 1: know er Uh, they're wacky far you know, extremes, and
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  Speaker 1: there's an opportunity kind of out of that, cause there
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of same people won't go in either
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  Speaker 1: one of those. Uh. But I but I but yes,
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  Speaker 1: in a compromise between good and evil, it is only
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  Speaker 1: evil that has something to gain. When good and bad compromise,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: things move towards bad always. So I I think what
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing is MAGA is more consistent on the Republican rights,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: and Socialism is more consistent on the wacky left, and
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  Speaker 1: they're winning out. Michael. When Jews become open targets, it's
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  Speaker 1: a good indicated that society is starting to crumble. Yes,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: it is. I mean Jews are because they are successful,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: they're prosperous to them among us, they look like us,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: they don't look differently to turn to hatred of them says,
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  Speaker 1: something is very very sick within a society, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a turn to collectivism. It's a turn to a tribalism.
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  Speaker 1: That is that is as I called tribalism. It's it's, it's, it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's super bubb it's the foundation of barbarism, right, Mary Ellen.
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  Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali started a series of natural rights on his
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  Speaker 1: substec The substeinct is called Societal Dynamics. I recommended, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: me too. Mohammed Lee is super smart and and a
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: good kid, and he's getting his pet and philosophy and
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: he's doing a lot of this history stuff on trying
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: to really chew the concept of individual rights and how
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: it came about. So I definitely would encourage you to
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  Speaker 1: sign up and subscribe and read it and then given comments.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: You know, he's young, but he's very open to inputs
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: and giving comments. And I'll have him on the show.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: I had him recently. I'll have him again next year
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: on the show to talk about that. Lindasa has spent
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: the weekend at a conference telling people to get their
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: news from YBS. I want to know who was at
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: the conference. It doesn't already get news from IBS. I
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: mean these are all objectivists don't get their news from YBS,
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  Speaker 1: So why were we even talking to those people? I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Linda, I really appreciate that, and you know
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  Speaker 1: that'll be uh yeah, Expanding the number of people will
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: get their news from YBS can only make the will
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  Speaker 1: to been a place. All right, Linda, our niece is
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  Speaker 1: on the USS Joe r Ford headed to the Caribbean.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Wish it was otherwise. Yeah, it's just stupid, blaze guitar lesson.
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  Speaker 1: The faunas have the right to bear arms? Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: do you have the right to be arms? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what is the right to be arms? I mean, that's
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: a that's a tricky question. It's it's it's not obvious
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  Speaker 1: that anybody has the right to be arms, and suddenly
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  Speaker 1: it's not obvious that you have the right to be
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  Speaker 1: arms unconditionally. That is, you have to really think about
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  Speaker 1: what it means to say you have a right to
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  Speaker 1: be arms. And I don't think you do. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's how it formulated. I formulated as you right,
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  Speaker 1: you have a right to self defense, and that is
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  Speaker 1: a is a derivative rights and the right to life,
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  Speaker 1: and then what is the right to self defense you
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  Speaker 1: know require Well, it might require and this is what
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  Speaker 1: you'd have to think about. It might require in certainly
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  Speaker 1: in terms of circumstances, the use of firearms, of weapons,
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  Speaker 1: or certain weapons. But which weapons. So, for example, do
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  Speaker 1: you have a right to bear a tank and F
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  Speaker 1: thirty five a nuclear bomb AM sixteen. Where is the line? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think the line has to be drawn by really
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  Speaker 1: thinking about the right of self defense, because that's the right,
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  Speaker 1: and bearing arms is just a derivative of the right
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  Speaker 1: of self defense. So you really have to understand what's
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  Speaker 1: involved in self defense and when it would be appropriate
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  Speaker 1: to use weapons, to use deadly force in self defense,
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  Speaker 1: and therefore, under what conditions is it appropeate to use weapons?
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  Speaker 1: And then who can bear weapons? But remember that because
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  Speaker 1: weapons are for the purpose of violence, the state has
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  Speaker 1: an interest in them. Well, I certainly think they have
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: the right to self defense, and as given that they
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  Speaker 1: have the right to self defense, they have the right
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  Speaker 1: to the basic weapons necessary to self defense. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: don't see why not. The only rights a non citizen
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have what are called civil rights, and they relate
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: to things like voting. But when it comes to individual rights,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: inalienable rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness that everybody has.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has, every person, every person on the planet has.
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  Speaker 1: It's their right by nature, by the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: human being. But that's so rights are not limited. The
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  Speaker 1: border doesn't define rights other than civil rights, the rights
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  Speaker 1: that relate to government and to your relationship with the government. Roland,
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  Speaker 1: please take this sacrifice, dear WiFi gods. That's another two Swiss. Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's worked. We've gotten through the show so far.
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  Speaker 1: I like numbers. What's the criteria for whether one is
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  Speaker 1: a barbarian? Well? I think barbarism is a major feature
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: of barbarism is a complete disregard for human life, a
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: complete disregard for human life. You know where you're willing
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: to kill, slaughter, rape, pillage. You know that that characterizes
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: a barbaric life where you reject and denounce kind of civilization.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Civilization means the achievements of arts and culture and politics
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  Speaker 1: and thought and science. Is uh, when when your method
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  Speaker 1: leads you to it, to reject them? Or and and
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  Speaker 1: and and Yeah, Robin, what was what was a really
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  Speaker 1: great insight about introducing children to objectivism? Oh god, I
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: don't know, nothing comes to mind right now. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I I loved watching my kids learn their first concepts
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  Speaker 1: because at least it seemed to me at the time.
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  Speaker 1: It seems to me that they really did it the
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: way objectivism says it's done. That is, they they seem
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  Speaker 1: to have reinforced the epistemology, the concept Iman's theory of
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: concert formation, and that was to me, it was a
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: wow moment. That was whoa, yeah, this is real. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And and and induction they do things. I mean, it
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: really is amazing how they learn cause and effect and
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: how it's all observation, integration, induction, all of those. So
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: more than anything else, it was the epistemology esoteric dichotomy. Hypothetically,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: how topathetical? What happens if automation eliminates jobs or politicians
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: and voters refuse to free up the economy, do you
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: regulate allow new industries? Well, I mean, you could get
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of people unemployed or underemployed. It's possible that
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: because let's say the robots are so much more productive
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: than humans, you could still produce a lot of stuff,
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: and therefore you could redistribute a lot of that stuff.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: But innovation would die. I think mainly it would be
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: the innovation that dies, the progress that would die, other
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: than the increased productivity in the machines can and would create. Raymond,
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  Speaker 1: Why are you Apple over Windows and Android? Any special
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: love or don't want to spend time to compare? I'm young,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: So what was compute like in nineties two thousands? I'm
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: talking about the eighties, not the nineties two thousands. I
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: think an Apple and the way Apple is built from
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: the beginning, and I'm talking about the eighties is much
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: more aligned with our human being, a non geeky human
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: being uses a computer from the symbols and the mouse
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: and the way I want to interacts with the computer.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: It's so much more intuitive aligned I think with the
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: way again, a non expert, I know people who love
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: in interacting with the computer vue, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: line commands, But most of us the computer is a
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: tool and as a you know, And I think Steve
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: Jobs's genius was viewing it that way, understanding that it
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: was a tool and it had to appeal to people
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: who weren't that interested in the intricacies of it, but
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: wanted to use it as a tool. And he built
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: it in such a way as to do that. So
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: every one of the operating systems when you compare them
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: to Apple now is so. I've used Windows once in
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: a while, very rarely over the years, and I think,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: I just think Apple is easier and more intuitive and
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: quicker and faster and more direct. And I look at
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: the Android Foins phones and the Apple phone. It's just
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: everything is simple and straightforward. It's geared towards how I
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: use it, not towards again, some geeky nerds way of
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: doing things. And that's the you know. And the first time,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: I mean I initially was a PC guy, and I
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: remember using a spreadsheet on a PC. It was just
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: cumbersome and hard. And then this is nineteen eighty nine,
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: I think, and then moving to the Apple lab maybe
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: eighty eight, and using a spreadsheet on Apple, and it
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: was like in those days was night to day. This
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: is before Windows, it was just nine and day. I mean,
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: Apple just was easy, It was quick, straightforward, It did
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: what you needed it to do. Maybe didn't do fancy
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: schmancy stuff, but what most of us needed to be
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: do it could do. And so I switched from PC
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: immediately to an Apple and having looked back, I bought
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: my first computer, a Mac se thirty in nineteen ninety
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: maybe eighty nine ninety and I have owned only max
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: a whole array of them, laptops, desktops, and then when
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: phones came I was a big use of Pomp pilots,
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: and then a BlackBerry, and then when the iPhone came out,
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: that was it. I mean, the iPhone could do everything
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: all these other things could do, plus other stuff. Plus
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: it was so easy and so pretty. That's the other thing.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: Steve Jobs understood the aesthetics of products and the value
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: having something pretty in front of you makes the value
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  Speaker 1: it has. All right, guys, with the two hour and
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  Speaker 1: two minute mark, thank you, really appreciate it. Again. Not
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  Speaker 1: sure when the next show will be. I'll try to
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: do it as soon as possible. I really appreciate the
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: support today and I am looking forward to seeing you
• 2:02:54
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• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: the Oceanist has a question. I recently watched your debate
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: with Peter with Richard Wolf and it seems to me
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: his utopia is just rule by lynch mob. Also, if
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: you want a good laugh, look at Wolf explained how
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: to get a PS five in his system. All right,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: I'll check it out. But yes, I mean it's utopia.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: Is the mob all socialists In the end, the modern
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: socialists rely on the consensus of the mob, the majority rule.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: Everything is majority rule. Thank you, guys. I will see
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  Speaker 1: you all when I see you, by everybody, and hopefully
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  Speaker 1: i'll see some of you live in Krakau, or in Oslo,
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