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Switching Arrows | How to get sponsors | Hunting Internationally? · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  I love auto. I'm a huge auto guy.
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  I don't know why people kind of look at you like a cock if you
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  use auto. Because you know, it's, there's
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  better, you know, quality settings if you use manual, but
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  you have to like be good at using it.
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  And obviously I don't know all the settings yet.
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  So we just have to, you know, we have to get better.
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  We have to learn, we have to evolve and grow.
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  Don't you in general think that robots and machines are like
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  more precise and better than humans?
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  So look at AI and all these like advanced technologies.
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  Don't you think they know more than people do?
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  So if you use that theory, wouldn't auto be better than
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  manual? Well, I just don't think the the
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  technology is it's there in the world.
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  I don't think it's there in the cameras yet.
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  Or if it is, you know, it's in that $30,000 camera, not in
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  this, you know, $900 camera. Absolutely nothing. 909 hundred
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  dollars used. Yes, yeah, nothing wrong with
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  the camera at all. It's just you know, there's no
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  AI in there. It can't.
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  Do you know? It can detect light to an
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  extent, but like it doesn't make it possible for me to take
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  pictures in the dark and automatic.
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  I'm telling you This is why I'm a big camcorder guy.
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  You just point and shoot, baby. Yeah, but you can't film in the
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  dark with a camcorder. You grip and RIP and let it fly,
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  baby. Yeah, you can.
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  You ever seen Blair Witch Project?
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  What do you got? Night vision.
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  It does have night vision, yeah. It's all kind of green, but.
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  We don't use it. That would be badass.
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  Maybe we make like a Blair Witch Project.
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  Well, why don't we, like, flip it to night vision when we, you
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  know, go and film in the mornings when we're walking into
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  places and stuff? You could you could do that.
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  Why don't we do that? Maybe we will and then people
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  will be like oh look he's hunting on feeder and hunting at
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  night. I actually did get my first hate
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  comment about hunting a feeder. Oh yeah, what was it?
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  Let me find it. So why don't you talk through
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  the week? What's happened?
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  What? What have you been doing?
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  What a. Job update.
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  Give your job update. Job update was applied to like,
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  I don't know probably like 30 jobs or something and you know
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  it's all this like online automatic stuff nowadays like
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  jobs don't post their own listings.
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  Few jobs that I have applied for have and those are those are
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  great. Most of them are just through
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  websites like indeed or you can even apply on LinkedIn now.
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  And so anyways, most of the jobs have been through indeed, some
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  have not. And surprisingly, out of all of
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  those, one replied yesterday and asked me to further fill out
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  some some information. So after this, we've got to, you
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  know, get cleaned up and go make a one minute video on on why I'd
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  like to the job. And then I got to, you know,
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  click the button to schedule an interview.
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  So we'll see. That's for a medical marketing
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  company. So, you know, I'd have some
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  things to learn, but you know, marketing is marketing.
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  So we'll see. We'll see how it goes.
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  But other than that, that's then the only reply.
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  I did get a reply from that super liberal job that you said
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  my, my resume was being reviewed and so I'd be contacted later on
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  by, you know, the recruiting people or whatever.
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  But I don't know. I don't know if I could do that
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  job, honestly. It did have if you get the top
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  end of the pay scale, it did have good pay, but.
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  Pay. Pay is all relative.
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  That's what's important to remember, you know?
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  Yeah, yeah, so that's how the job hunt has been going and
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  hopefully we have one before February 1st.
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  Otherwise, you know, they go to the streets or something.
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  She. Believes Martha.
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  That's. Insane.
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  Yeah, Start that old web maybe. That would be.
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  Lucrative, it would be lucrative.
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  I can't do that. I can't do that.
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  But yeah, so that's. All right, you ready for this
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  comment? Yeah.
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  It's from Frank Dog K-D5R on YouTube.
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  Dear had you in range 310 degrees.
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  These places you are doing management is cool but whitetail
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  hunting on public land or even some private land is not the
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  same. I'm sure you are aware of that.
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  Can't move too much. Killing over bait is frowned
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  upon by many hunters because it's not really hunting illegal
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  in some states, but for management of numbers it works.
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  I of course threw a hard on his comment and I responded OK.
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  I couldn't even tell like. Sometimes it didn't.
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  It was like a a sympathetic cake comment, like he he was
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  empathetic of your your purposes for using bait and hunting, but
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  at the same time frowning upon it.
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  So I. Think with bait definitely
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  counts. I mean, this is my first time
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  doing it, but it's kind of naive to say it's not like I've always
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  no. There extraordinarily jittery
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  still, regardless of there being bait on the ground and.
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  What? What's honestly the difference
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  between hunting a feeder and hunting a water hole or a?
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  Or an oak tree that's dropping, you know, an enormous amount of
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  oaks. Or a or a cornfield because
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  that's not considered bait. You know, it's agriculture, but
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  like you're sitting there for the same purpose and I'm not
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  here. I'm not here.
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  I'm the biggest public land OTC guy.
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  Like we went over this. So like, I'm there for the
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  hardos, you know, but also the hardos are they're goofy
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  sometimes. They're goofy sometimes.
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  I used to be 1. So I did for a short period.
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  Well, actually maybe a while, but yeah, not anymore.
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  Not anymore. Other big news?
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  We're recording in the morning. This is maybe the first time
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  we've ever done a pod in the. Morning my my eyes look a little
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  puffy so I woke up about 20 minutes ago and I'm still
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  sipping my first coffee of the day, so there may be a break in
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  here. Maybe when we hit the 30 minute
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  mark, if the camera stops, you know, recording for a, a coffee,
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  a. Little refill I hit the gym this
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  morning I trained chest felt pretty good I.
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  Hit I hit the couch this morning.
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  I hit incline bench, barbell, flat bench, and then I hit a
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  machine bench with a kind of a neutral grip.
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  Then I hit a cable flies and then I hit rope tricep
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  extensions. I was about 40 minutes and yeah,
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  good, good little, good little set of reps and then that's good
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  for you. Probably realistically put in
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  five or five miles or so on the legs later, you know, just.
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  Yeah, yeah. And I just.
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  Sold just sold a shirt and a hat right now on the pod.
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  Which reminds me, get and get in on the giveaway.
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  Yeah, yeah, till Christmas Eve. Till Christmas Eve, so this pod
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  will be out. This is the last pod actually
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  before it's over because it comes out on on Christmas the
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  next pod. So this will be the last pod
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  while it's available. Really cool.
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  You know to give away 2 bows this year.
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  You know, we gave away my SR-350 and core Sr. so 2 bows in a
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  year. I think it's pretty cool.
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  Next year, maybe even. I think we'll probably have more
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  giveaways next. You know, we won't talk about it
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  on here because I think there's some work to be done with it in
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  planning, but I think that thing we talked about with Chuck
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  Chucks idea, Oh, it's great idea.
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  That's a that's something we got to look into as an annual thing.
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  I will be. Doing that.
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  Yeah, in. Next year, yeah, maybe, maybe it
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  could somehow be like mixed in with the challenge somehow,
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  possibly like, I don't know, but.
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  Could be like announced at the challenge, you know, and
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  speaking. Of, you know, the contract
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  signed, sealed, delivered for motorcycles 3.
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  So it is happening May 17th, May 18th with Bayer State Bow
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  hunters once again. So really excited.
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  I think year 1 was really good. Year 2 was a lot better and I
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  wasn't sure we can improve it all that much, but we definitely
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  improved it a lot. Year three I think will once
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  again be even a whole step above, you know.
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  So anyways, I'm excited to kind of get the event rolling, got,
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  you know, one more hunt, couple maybe days of local hunting,
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  then a big hunt, and then after that it's time to go full steam
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  on the event. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready to to get
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  out there for a couple of weeks and freeze and sweat and hike
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  and I'm hoping honestly that my legs feel better with your
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  biking here, with the little bit of biking that I've, you know,
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  short period I've had leading up to it.
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  But I mean, they already do. What is he doing?
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  He's a goofball. This box is a.
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  Goofball. And he, I think he's about ready
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  for about due for a haircut. No, we're growing it out.
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  Baby, yes, we are. We're growing our.
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  Hair, I think I can help your knees.
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  I mean, my guess would be there'd be a little more stable,
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  you know, probably a little stronger, which will help.
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  What I'm interested is over the span of, let's just say we hunt
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  for two weeks. Let's just make a guess of two
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  weeks. I'm interested to see if you or
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  Teddy can make it through all 14 days.
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  Without any break. No breaks and if if you both
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  fail I'm interested who has more breaks, you or?
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  Teddy yeah, 'cause. You know, I'm not gonna take any
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  breaks. So like I'm I'm not in the
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  contest. Well, we'll see.
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  I haven't looked up the weather yet.
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  He is being ultra needy this morning.
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  I'll be over there on the giving.
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  Me, those sweet puppy eyes. I love you, Yes I do.
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  I have not looked at the weather yet to see.
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  What does he love? His mother.
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  Yeah, he's in the pod. To see, you know, if we're
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  looking at like some snowy days, some cold days, some there.
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  Hasn't there just hasn't been much snow these last few years
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  because. I just feel like it's been
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  abnormally warmer this year all around the state.
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  So are the the country. So I I don't know that we're
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  going to have as cold of the days as we had last year, but I
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  guess we'll we'll find out. That's typically what, what
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  holds me back, but you know, we'll, we'll be icing and
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  heating the knees and, and taking some ibuprofen and
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  whatnot while we're out there. So hopefully they, they, they
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  last a little longer. I just hate wearing the knee
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  sleeves. They just, they fall down.
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  They don't stay in place and they do help with compression to
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  prevent some swelling. But there's they're irritating.
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  You can feel them non-stop, like every 500 yards I'm trying to
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  pull them up through the pan. You probably need to put them on
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  like over top of some leggings. Yeah, maybe that would hold them
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  in place. I don't know.
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  No picky. Yeah.
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  So I am excited to get out there for that that hunt because.
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  Oh, I'm excited as well. But I just thought to myself,
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  unfortunately, I already spoiled who my Secret Santa is.
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  But this pod, no shoot, I can't say it on this pod because this
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  one comes out. I would spoil it because say I
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  saw I'll I'll say it for the next pod, what I got.
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  But I do want to talk. We have some pretty big news.
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  Using new arrows. Yeah, using new arrows moving
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  forward, you know, obviously shot in DCA for probably the
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  last year and change and really enjoyed the arrows for a price
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  point arrow, tough to beat, you know what I mean?
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  Like they're really, really good.
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  The people are great. They're out in Ohio and yeah,
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  super exciting, super proud of what we accomplished with them.
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  I, I definitely know, I think we helped move the needle a little
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  bit with them and I'm, I'm proud of that and I'm sure they are
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  too. But we had an opportunity to
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  basically work with a local company that also is, you know,
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  arguably the top arrow company in the world.
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  So, you know, it, it was kind of a, a no brainer to take that
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  change or, or take that change and change is hard.
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  You know, sometimes it's not easy to change when you like
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  people and you like a product, it's it's tough to make a move.
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  But when the factories right up the street, not the factory, the
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  factories down in Mexico, but the office is right up the
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  street, the factories, you know, just down the road here in
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  Tijuana with lots of other activities to do while I'm down
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  there. I think I'll take a a spa
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  weekend for that one. Bring a new filmer.
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  That, yeah, maybe bring that for that film trip or something.
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  But. Stay here.
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  But yeah, I shoot victory now and I'm really excited about it.
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  I actually just got these built these HLR and then for my target
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  bow, I have the I think they're called the VTEC 20 sevens,
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  right? So what I love about?
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  Tell me about this arrow specifically though, because
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  this is like the new Mac Daddy. Right.
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  You know you can't. Even get it on the website right
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  now. Correct.
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  Yeah, this is unreleased. So Josh actually kind of set
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  this change in motion a little bit.
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  He called me and said, Hey, James, you know, I, I think you
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  got to shoot this arrow. And I said, OK, well, tell me
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  about the arrow. And he said it's, you know,
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  basically it's a 5mm arrow, 2O four diameter, which I've never
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  shot an arrow smaller than whatever the standards are.
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  I think they're like 246 or something.
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  So this is a 2O four. And then there's the 166 which
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  I. Said that's right.
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  In the middle, right? And he was like, you got to
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  shoot this arrow. I think it's the best arrow for
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  you and what you do, it's going to be really good long range.
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  It's going to be good with the wind.
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  It's also a good GPI. And yeah, I just think you'll
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  love it. So they were able to send me
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  some that we're able to give them a try and ultimately make
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  the decision to as a brand move over to working with Victory.
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  So big change. Other than that, you know, we
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  don't have any new companies we're working with per SE.
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  Most of them are all the same for long periods of time, you
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  know, and I'm very proud of the roster of brands that we are
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  working with. Well, you took so long to to
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  choose to even work with companies and I think that
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  allowed you to, we're talking about this a little bit last
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  night, but I think that allowed you to stand on your own 2 legs
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  when you went to start talking with companies because one
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  previous to even a YouTube channel, you knew what you liked
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  and then you stuck with that throughout, you know, your
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  independence with your channel. And then, you know, now making
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  that move to decide to actually work with companies.
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  You can say, you know, yes, like this is I shot your bow for 20
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  years and you know, I I love the product.
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  It's reliable, it's durable, it's, you know, workable for the
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  human who can't get to a shop. And aside from that, like things
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  like taking the move from wearing no camo brand, not this
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  one isn't, you know, a a sponsored deal or not yet maybe,
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  but one that you you tried out the product.
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  You knew that Ted had liked it for a long time and and you used
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  it and you put it to the test and you said no, this is
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  something that you know beats other companies prices.
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  I'm not paying for the crazy expensive stuff.
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  The you know, the camo doesn't go crazy out of this world in
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  patterns and whatnot. And the the product is durable
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  like everything you choose to do is because it still matches your
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  core values. And so I think that's cool.
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  And I think the reason that's possible is because you chose to
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  stand on your own for so long, determine what your values are
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  even potentially before your channel existed and continued to
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  replicate those throughout your 5-6 years of independency.
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  And I think sometimes people, they so badly want to get like
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  out there known in the world that it becomes rushed.
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  And that's where those changes start to happen year after year
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  after year, because they haven't established what they like yet
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  or what even works for them on top of like knowing a brand's
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  values or a company's values and stability.
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  And I think that sometimes rushing is not, it's not the
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  best thing in the world, you know, I know it's, it's always
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  great to make money or, you know, be able to do it as a full
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  time job or whatnot. Here I am like, hey, hire me.
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  So I have to go to work. Maybe.
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  Maybe in another. Year, another year or two, but
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  but you have to establish that first because you can have the
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  best intentions and you can have the best personality and you
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  have to have the best values. But what value do you offer a
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  company? You know, there's always has to
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  be a return on it is business and they can value you as a
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  person all day long. But what return on investment do
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  they get for paying you? You know, like it's not charity.
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  They have to run a business and you manage to hold out long
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  enough to build a brand and a platform that stands alone.
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  And there is a large return on investment for them.
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  And I think that was beneficial for you to do.
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  So It's it's paid off in in, you know, choosing, being able to
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  choose to work with companies that you want to work with and
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  like being things like circling back to that victory.
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  You have always been a San Diego, CA homegrown hero and.
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  I don't know that some people might say hero.
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  People might argue the couple that, yeah, it's funny.
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  I always say like the the locals are definitely always the
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  hardest on you. It's so weird.
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  It's like they'll love you when you're like, whatever, just like
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  making videos and nobody watches them.
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  But then once you hit like this certain point, it's like all of
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  a sudden, like now it's too mainstream.
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  They just like, even though, like, you're doing the same
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  shit, you know? Yeah.
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  Well, I think, I mean, I don't know if we've ever truly
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  explained this conversation we've had on camera before, but.
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  Well, I wanted to touch on the sponsor stuff a little bit.
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  Because I do think I. Have a very unique perspective
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  on this, you know, because now I am a 2A2 sport athlete, you
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  know, so I made it in bike riding and and made a living
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  bike. I'm getting there as well.
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  But then ten years later, actually more than 10 years
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  later, I have now I make a living in a different sport,
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  which is archery, you know, So how I was in the position to
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  have already learned about this one time before which?
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  Is valuable as well. And most people aren't Privy to
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  that. And I can relate to people
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  wanting to rush the process because, you know, when I was
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  graduating high school, I was going straight from high school
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  into the world tour. So like I didn't have, I didn't
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  go to college or anything and my way to, I mean, I would have
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  take any sponsor I could get, you know, because I really
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  needed money. And at the time I had maybe a
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  handful of like companies that would pay product, old product
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  only. And then I maybe had a couple
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  that would like pay some incentive stuff and I had to go
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  to my sponsors and say, Hey, you know, I'm not in high school
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  anymore. This is like my full time thing.
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  And I I need to make money. So like, unless you can pay
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  money, I'm going to have to leave.
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  And I'm here I am sitting 18 in these guys offices trying to
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  get. And it's a business.
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  Well, so you, it's a business. Of course, as a person, you're
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  your own company. Like, you know, a company
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  doesn't just start up and say, I guess I'll just pay my out of
• 22:11
  pocket to get to Switzerland and Austria and.
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  Yeah, but, but, so anyway, so I'm 8 in these meetings and of
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  course I'm really scared, you know, like I'm talking to this
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  main guy at the company trying to get him to pay me and I'm
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  like, I haven't proven anything, you know what I mean?
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  Like, I may have had a little bit of clout at the time, like
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  online because I was doing online videos on pinkbike.com,
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  but like nothing, the numbers were miniscule, you know, like
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  they're nothing crazy. And no one understood online
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  then. So no one was going to sign you
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  for getting online views. Like it's just they were going
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  to sign you for event results, you know what I mean?
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  Or print ads or whatever. We were doing print ads, you
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  know what I mean? Yeah, I've seen the posters.
• 22:58
  Yeah, so anyway, I signed a few deals and I was like, dude, I'm
• 23:03
  making bank. You know, I was making like I
• 23:07
  was making like $600 a month or something, you know, But when
• 23:11
  you're 18, like riding bikes, it like, you know, it seems sick.
• 23:15
  And then it got it up a little higher, but not not much.
• 23:18
  Like I never made a ton of money.
• 23:20
  And yeah, I'm only really like. So anyway, coming back to
• 23:27
  archery, when I started Boat Disciples Platform, first of
• 23:32
  all, I never thought it would even grow to the point where it
• 23:35
  is now. I never thought that it wasn't
• 23:37
  on my bingo card what I started. It wasn't even my intention,
• 23:41
  right? I didn't care about people
• 23:43
  watching. I didn't care about trying to
• 23:45
  get sponsors. In fact, I didn't even want
• 23:47
  sponsors at all. For five years I was like, I'm
• 23:50
  not doing that because I had already done that road and I
• 23:54
  watched so many people both in biking and also in in what I'm
• 23:59
  doing now. It's the same with any sport
• 24:00
  that offers, you know, sponsorship opportunities when
• 24:04
  you're 1718. That's why you make the goofy
• 24:08
  decisions, you know, because you just in reality, you feel like
• 24:12
  you've been doing it forever. You've been doing it what, a
• 24:14
  couple years at most? And then you're like, Oh my
• 24:17
  gosh, I need what, you know, I need what Brandon Seminock has.
• 24:23
  It's like it doesn't work like that, you know?
• 24:26
  Like Brandon's been doing this forever.
• 24:28
  He's got crazy talent. He's got banger video parts.
• 24:31
  Like he's a professional through and through.
• 24:33
  He knows what he's doing. You are not that, you know what
• 24:36
  I mean? It's going to take, maybe he'll
• 24:38
  get there, but it's going to take a lot of time.
• 24:40
  You know, Brandon's been doing this since 2007, so and he's
• 24:43
  still doing it now. That's a long time, you know,
• 24:47
  and in archery, it's the same thing.
• 24:48
  You see people sometimes pop up and especially people that are
• 24:51
  younger or maybe impatient pop up and just want to take like
• 24:56
  these like deals that aren't doing anything for you and
• 25:02
  they're kind of diluting your brand.
• 25:04
  And honestly, a lot of times they look goofy.
• 25:07
  You know what I mean? I hate to say it, but it's true.
• 25:10
  And I can speak to it from experience because although when
• 25:13
  I was a biker, I didn't take, if I got to get myself any credit
• 25:17
  as a biker, I never really took any goofy deals.
• 25:20
  Even when I was that young, all my deals were pretty legit.
• 25:24
  The brands weren't like I wasn't with the coolest brands, but my
• 25:27
  deals were legit. And but I would watch a lot of
• 25:32
  guys do these real, real goofy deals like these.
• 25:34
  They call them grassroots sponsorships where you're like
• 25:37
  literally getting like a 20% discount.
• 25:40
  You have to run their stickers. And I was like, I am not doing
• 25:43
  that shit now. You know what I mean?
• 25:46
  So I would just advise anyone, because I know people that
• 25:51
  listen to the podcast and and want to be creators or kind of
• 25:54
  like do what what what I'm doing.
• 25:56
  And my only advice would just be, you know, numbers are the
• 26:01
  most important thing. I hate to tell you, they just
• 26:04
  are. So get your numbers to a point
• 26:06
  that where when you go and you you you look at Instagram, you
• 26:11
  look at TikTok, you look at Facebook, you look at YouTube,
• 26:13
  you got to go. OK, well, this person has good
• 26:17
  sponsors and they're making good money and my numbers are
• 26:20
  comparable to theirs, right? That is where you can go.
• 26:25
  Hey, I I'm looking to take this to the next level.
• 26:29
  You talk to brands, build some relationships and hopefully get
• 26:31
  some deals done. That's how you have to do it
• 26:34
  with if, if your views are, you know, let's say a 10th of this
• 26:42
  guy, well, you're only providing a tenth of the value.
• 26:47
  And I know that in your head, it's easy to like, be like, Oh,
• 26:50
  well, Ioffer. Ioffer.
• 26:53
  Ioffer. Something they don't.
• 26:55
  It's like, no, I'm sorry, that's not.
• 26:57
  Again, it's kind of the Brandon Seminar young bike rider
• 27:00
  situation. You do not do the same thing.
• 27:03
  Yeah, just not to say you won't. I'm not saying it's not
• 27:06
  possible, but you're not doing it yet.
• 27:09
  Look, so I just, I always look at it from you know you look at
• 27:13
  it from the ownership perspective and I just look at
• 27:16
  it from like that outside third party agent business marketing
• 27:20
  perspective and I think that has helped tremendously over the
• 27:24
  past three years. I still wouldn't even have a
• 27:26
  sponsor on on purpose if you didn't make me do it.
• 27:29
  Basically and. Maybe that would have been good.
• 27:33
  You know, Like right now it seems good that I have all the
• 27:35
  sponsors I have because like, my deals are legitimate.
• 27:38
  Like, they're good deals, you know?
• 27:40
  But who knows? Maybe if I waited three more
• 27:42
  years, my first deal would have been with Ford.
• 27:45
  You know, it's like you don't know right now.
• 27:48
  It seems like a good call. We'll see.
• 27:50
  We'll see, but but looking at it from the the outside marketing
• 27:55
  business perspective only, I I think that these when like
• 28:00
  smaller, you know, like whether it's Youtubers or pods or
• 28:06
  influencers or or soon to be want to be, but not yet
• 28:10
  influencers or whatever pop up and like that is their, they
• 28:13
  what they want to do. You know, they would love to
• 28:15
  transition from their full time job to that.
• 28:20
  You have to, and you have said this from the very beginning,
• 28:25
  but from a marketing perspective it is key.
• 28:29
  Research and analytics are the key.
• 28:33
  Oh my God. I mean how annoying am I with
• 28:35
  him? Oh my.
• 28:35
  Gosh, yeah. I always make a joke and I'm
• 28:38
  I'm, it's kind of a joke, but I really think it's true.
• 28:41
  I think I know most people's analytics better than they do.
• 28:45
  I think so. I'm dead.
• 28:46
  Serious, because I know everybody's numbers.
• 28:49
  But that is important because that's that's the next thing I'm
• 28:53
  about to say is, is you know your analytics, you have to
• 28:57
  compare your analytics. It doesn't make you a Dick.
• 29:01
  It doesn't make you, you know, ruthless.
• 29:04
  It makes you competitive because if you're wanting to get there
• 29:10
  and grow and be bigger, you have to be competitive.
• 29:14
  And how can you be competitive if you don't know your own
• 29:17
  competition? Because at the end of the day,
• 29:20
  it is a business and that is what it is.
• 29:22
  It is a competition. I'm not saying you're trying to
• 29:25
  ruin somebody else's business or YouTube podcast, whatever it
• 29:29
  doesn't, But how are you going to reach the next level to be
• 29:33
  above them? You don't know unless you look
• 29:36
  at the analytics and then take those and learn how to speak to
• 29:41
  your analytics. So maybe you don't have the
• 29:44
  subscriber count that this, you know, channel or podcaster or
• 29:49
  Instagram account has, but you have better viewership.
• 29:54
  And we've seen that for you, you know, a little while back where
• 29:57
  your viewership because you work the shorts, which is key.
• 30:01
  You have learned how studying your analytics, what works for
• 30:05
  your channel and you have learned to speak to those.
• 30:09
  I think companies or businesses or YouTube influencers, whatever
• 30:13
  they are, they fall short because they don't know how to
• 30:16
  speak to their own analytics. They just want to talk about
• 30:20
  themselves and not in a selfish way, but like they are their
• 30:23
  brand. But how does your brand work?
• 30:28
  How does it influence other people?
• 30:29
  Where does it influence other people?
• 30:31
  What age demographic does it influence what you work out?
• 30:35
  Do you get where does it get watched?
• 30:38
  Get on every one of the other social blade or just your
• 30:41
  YouTube analytics and you know, get on there and study them and
• 30:46
  then learn what is working for your channel and maximize it.
• 30:52
  And then learn how to talk to it.
• 30:54
  Because those brands, if you can learn how to talk to your
• 30:58
  analytics and say this is what I do.
• 31:02
  This is how I can benefit your company.
• 31:04
  This is how I can benefit you in comparison to these other
• 31:08
  channels or podcasts or accounts.
• 31:11
  Before we breeze by it, this is something new I've been doing
• 31:15
  actually, maybe not with companies that I'm already
• 31:18
  signed to, but ones that like I'm talking to and I may start
• 31:22
  doing it with companies I'm signed to actually.
• 31:24
  But a new thing I've been doing is anytime I get like a message
• 31:30
  or a comment that says like, hey, I saw you're using this.
• 31:34
  Like why are you using this? Bah, Bah, Bah, Bah Bah.
• 31:37
  Like inquiring about the products immediately.
• 31:40
  I used to like go back and find them and include them in the
• 31:43
  media kit at the end of the year.
• 31:44
  Now I screenshot them and I'll text them or e-mail them to them
• 31:47
  right away. So I'm like, look, I'm getting
• 31:49
  this routinely, you know? And that is what companies care
• 31:54
  about. To your point, it all comes back
• 31:56
  to brand recognition and more sales.
• 31:59
  That's what they're looking for. It's not that tough.
• 32:02
  And guess what? It's hard to move the needle if
• 32:04
  your views aren't high. Correct.
• 32:06
  Yeah, that's. Just all there is to it and I I
• 32:08
  know it sounds some people don't want to hear that they they, you
• 32:11
  know, and. There's different types of
• 32:14
  brands out there that you know, maybe they're not selling it,
• 32:17
  for example, one you've been talking to, I think you just did
• 32:21
  a POD yesterday with how that you know, have different
• 32:26
  purposes. Sure, but even OWL wants to work
• 32:29
  with people with with core. Views, but that's because again,
• 32:33
  their purpose is to reach more people, to reach more people.
• 32:37
  So brand recognition, brand reach, they want to get the
• 32:40
  whatever their message, their causes at the time, they want to
• 32:43
  spread that as far as possible, as fast as possible.
• 32:47
  To do that, you have to have viewership.
• 32:51
  I do. I do want to touch on one other
• 32:53
  thing too, because it's one of them.
• 32:55
  You never know where you're going to see something that's
• 32:57
  like, wow, that's that's like, I never thought of it that way.
• 33:02
  But my buddy Zach, who's a like a fitness business coach and
• 33:09
  he'd been doing that a long time, You know, like he'd been
• 33:12
  probably doing it as long as I have been doing Bo disciples,
• 33:15
  right? We've been friends most of the
• 33:17
  time. And he did a post the other day
• 33:22
  where he said like, you know, essentially it was kind of like
• 33:27
  when people ask whatever, how my page has made it, blah, blah,
• 33:32
  blah. Or like how I've been able to be
• 33:33
  successful in business. And then he just puts a
• 33:36
  screenshot of his Instagram page and he circles the amount of
• 33:41
  posts he has. And then he goes to his like
• 33:44
  screenshots his current stories. And they had like 12 active
• 33:47
  stories. And I'm like, that's the best
• 33:51
  visual I've ever seen, you know, because the only reason Bo
• 33:57
  Disciples has blown up as much as it has in the past two to
• 34:00
  three years is because I have put out a tremendous amount of
• 34:06
  content and I never miss, right? The thing is, a lot of people
• 34:11
  will get motivated and they'll be like, oh, I'm going to do it.
• 34:14
  And they'll do it like 3 posts and then they stop.
• 34:16
  And then they go, oh, I'm motivated again.
• 34:18
  They do 5 posts and stop. And my point is, you have to do
• 34:22
  it for five years straight, maybe more, maybe less.
• 34:28
  Maybe you get lucky. I don't even look at it like if
• 34:30
  I were speaking to a company, I don't put a timeline on it
• 34:34
  because you can't put a timeline on.
• 34:36
  You can't. I'm just.
• 34:36
  No, I'm speaking to creators. I'm saying if you really want to
• 34:39
  make it like. Well, I call creators companies.
• 34:43
  They are. They are their own businesses.
• 34:47
  It's just the word is consistency, of course.
• 34:51
  And if you are not consistent, then you're going to fall off
• 34:56
  the bandwagon and so. You can't catch up too.
• 34:59
  Like that's why Zach's post I thought was so good because, you
• 35:03
  know, one of the reasons I've always been confident that, you
• 35:06
  know, I think within I don't know how long, but I do think
• 35:08
  I'll have one of the biggest platforms in the space.
• 35:12
  In fact, I know I will. I just don't know exactly when
• 35:14
  that'll be. I've gotten much closer to that,
• 35:17
  but I'm not there yet. But one of the reasons I know
• 35:19
  it's inevitable that I'm going to make it is because my output
• 35:23
  is outrunning everybody. So it's like I'm not going to be
• 35:27
  out produced. That's just there's no way I'm
• 35:30
  not going to let that happen. And you know, someone could be
• 35:35
  bigger now, but you know, they might be posting, you know, once
• 35:41
  a day, but I'm doing two to three on four platforms.
• 35:45
  You know, they might only be posting once on 2.
• 35:48
  And over time that race, it's like you're going to catch up or
• 35:52
  get past, you know, it's one of the two.
• 35:54
  And, and I love it. You know, I love this like a
• 35:59
  sport, you know, like you said, the analytics and stuff, like
• 36:02
  I'm addicted to that shit. I love it and I always have.
• 36:04
  Like, I mean, I, I've been putting in videos on the
• 36:07
  Internet since 2007, you know, and that's, that's a long time
• 36:13
  to be in the game, sort of almost. 20 years.
• 36:15
  Almost 20 years in the game, which is like it's hard to be in
• 36:19
  the game a whole lot longer, like posting videos on the
• 36:21
  Internet. That's almost as long as you
• 36:23
  could do it. Sure, there's videos on the
• 36:25
  Internet slightly before that, but not, not really like, you
• 36:30
  know, So no, no, no, I, I really, to me, it's important to
• 36:35
  try to get conversations like this out there because I was the
• 36:40
  guy in 2010 who was trying to figure out how to do this.
• 36:46
  And there's some good videos on YouTube of people explaining how
• 36:50
  to do it as well. This guy's called, I think Loam
• 36:53
  Loam Ranger. It's a biking channel.
• 36:55
  He has a phenomenal video on how to get sponsors, like a very,
• 36:59
  very thorough breakdown. So I suggest people go watch
• 37:02
  that if you haven't. And then in our space, you know,
• 37:06
  Cam talks about it sometimes on his podcast.
• 37:09
  He'll go into the weeds on the business stuff, but a lot of
• 37:12
  people avoid it. Like it's like taboo.
• 37:14
  I'm never going to do that. If I get fired by somebody, I
• 37:16
  get fired. But I think it's important
• 37:19
  because I want people to know who are aspiring to do it.
• 37:22
  Even if they're 30. You can do it.
• 37:25
  Like, you know, you can do it. And if you're 18, even better.
• 37:29
  But don't think it's going to be easy.
• 37:31
  You know, like start now and grind for.
• 37:33
  Well, and this is not the we're no longer in the age where it is
• 37:39
  new, you know, like there's, you couldn't even count the amount
• 37:44
  of people a day who are creating Instagram accounts like, you
• 37:48
  know, separate from their personal account because they're
• 37:50
  looking or Youtubes or whatever it is because they're looking to
• 37:53
  create a business, they're looking to create and you know,
• 37:57
  whatever, you know, this isn't like we'll use crispy as an
• 38:02
  example, because when I, I think it was when I listened to that
• 38:05
  pod, he maybe did with ultra views.
• 38:08
  Yeah, with Colby. With Colby, you have to realize
• 38:12
  how far back. You're starting.
• 38:14
  He truly started. He was young, beginning in
• 38:19
  college back before, you know, Instagram and YouTube are these
• 38:24
  big hits that they are now. And so he really entered at the
• 38:29
  prime time. Well, unless you started even
• 38:32
  earlier. Unless you.
• 38:34
  Yeah. But here's the thing, actually,
• 38:35
  I'm, I'm glad you brought that up because although I've, I
• 38:39
  don't really know Chris, I've only talked to him one time,
• 38:41
  right? Like, so I don't, I don't know
• 38:44
  the guy, but when I started doing, when I was thinking about
• 38:49
  starting Bo disciples, I was kind of like, I wonder if anyone
• 38:52
  does anything like this? I had the idea to like go film
• 38:55
  3D shoots and shit and I was like, I don't, I wonder if
• 38:58
  that's a thing. So I like search it on YouTube
• 39:00
  back in 2018. And the only one I found doing
• 39:04
  stuff like what I kind of wanted to do was Chris, right?
• 39:07
  And he was like he was young but he even had a back catalog then
• 39:12
  in 2018. So if I had to guess, I bet he
• 39:15
  started in 2016 or something. Yeah, I don't know.
• 39:17
  I'd have to go go back and look it.
• 39:19
  Up and another thing he said really good in that podcast and
• 39:22
  I don't, I like kind of, I say it all the time, but like I
• 39:27
  don't generally listen to that sort of content, but I'm glad I
• 39:31
  did because they got into a lot of business stuff and I thought
• 39:33
  that was cool. But Chris was saying it was a
• 39:35
  very solid point. He said anyone can kind of do
• 39:40
  what I'm doing right now. But you got to understand the
• 39:43
  only reason I'm doing this right now at 27 and people think I'm
• 39:47
  so young and like, that's crazy, he's killing it at 27 is because
• 39:51
  I started when I was 15. He goes the reason a lot of
• 39:54
  people you see make it big are 40 by the time they make it big,
• 39:58
  it's because they started when they were 34.
• 40:01
  And I'm kind of I kind of land in the middle, you know, I never
• 40:04
  say my age, right, But I land in the I land in the middle, right?
• 40:08
  And. The younger you can start the
• 40:10
  deaf, definitely the better. Yeah, but not everyone's in a
• 40:13
  position to start anything at any given time.
• 40:16
  Well, that's, that's all I'm, you know, the, the point I'm
• 40:18
  making is that you can start anytime.
• 40:22
  That's like, it's very possible the world has just become more
• 40:27
  competitive because there's more people out there.
• 40:30
  Trying to do it field too. And at all ages, especially the
• 40:34
  younger demographic. But that doesn't mean it's as
• 40:37
  easy for the younger demographic as it was for people like you.
• 40:41
  And biking and crispy when he. Or me and Bo disciples.
• 40:45
  You know, hopefully. Think about me and Bo disciples
• 40:48
  like it's it's the same thing. Like at the time when I started,
• 40:51
  I was like, shoot, I started a little late, like 20 eighteens
• 40:54
  late. Now it seems like I was way
• 40:56
  early, you know, even though I felt late at the time.
• 41:00
  So I think that's also a valuable lesson as that it's
• 41:04
  always going to feel like you're late to the game always.
• 41:08
  But in five years it won't feel like that, you know?
• 41:11
  So just start. Yeah, I just think starting now
• 41:16
  looks differently than it did then, of course.
• 41:20
  And you have to, I said this last night, you have to look at
• 41:24
  it as an actual passion. It has to be a passion,
• 41:30
  something you love to do. And that's not just the activity
• 41:34
  that you are filming, like in whatever it is, whether it's
• 41:38
  fitness, whether it's archery, whether it's biking, whether
• 41:41
  it's skateboarding, scootering, whatever.
• 41:44
  Yeah, it can't just be that actual activity that is your
• 41:48
  passion. The whole process has to be your
• 41:52
  passion from the filming, from the creative standpoint, from
• 41:55
  the editing, from the posting, from the engaging with people on
• 41:59
  your social media accounts. All of that has to be a passion
• 42:04
  because otherwise you, I can't say you won't succeed because
• 42:08
  eventually you could make enough to where you can outsource or
• 42:11
  you can meet someone like me. Not that you, you had a passion
• 42:14
  for all of it, but you know is somebody who's willing to help
• 42:17
  along the side, whatever that stuff can happen, but it's not a
• 42:21
  guarantee to happen. So if you truly want to succeed,
• 42:26
  you have to be compassionate in all of those things 100% or it's
• 42:30
  going to take you. At minimum, it's just going to
• 42:32
  take you a lot longer and it'll take somebody else.
• 42:34
  Honestly, you probably won't. If you're not passionate about
• 42:37
  something, your your your workload capacity is not going
• 42:43
  to be high enough. Because, you know, again, I
• 42:47
  think that I think the story of me waiting five years to be
• 42:53
  fully independent before even attempting to sign a deal with
• 42:57
  anybody, I think that is a prime example of what you're saying.
• 43:03
  Because obviously I'm passionate about it.
• 43:07
  I've shot bow since I was three. I've shot animals with bow since
• 43:11
  I was five. I've been doing it my whole
• 43:13
  life. I've also been filming videos
• 43:17
  since O 7 and editing them myself and putting them on the
• 43:21
  Internet. I've always.
• 43:23
  They have no interest in, you know, the only thing that makes
• 43:27
  you consider is what I continuously say the the the
• 43:31
  time load that it takes off to do other things by bringing in
• 43:36
  an editor and filmer. But you.
• 43:38
  Prefer to keep that, you know, filmer maybe editing.
• 43:42
  You still prefer to keep to your own because you enjoy doing it,
• 43:47
  because you enjoy the creative process of what comes out on the
• 43:51
  other end that you produce. Oh, man, and I was going to say
• 43:54
  I was going to continue. Like I also love.
• 43:57
  I like, I like social media, you know, like I always have thought
• 44:01
  it was cool since it first came out.
• 44:03
  I always thought it was fun and. Well, you enjoy the amount of
• 44:08
  people that you look at. How many people you have met
• 44:10
  physically in person because you've met them online?
• 44:13
  Sounds so weird nowadays. But, but my point is like, I, I,
• 44:16
  I like a lot of things about it, you know, like I'm not, I'm not
• 44:21
  most people like I, I even like the like attention of it.
• 44:26
  And I know people are like, oh, that's awful thing to say, but I
• 44:29
  think it's probably the case for most people.
• 44:31
  It's like they would like to get to a point where they have like
• 44:34
  some sort of like, you know, clout or whatever.
• 44:38
  And I do like that, you know, I'll just be honest.
• 44:41
  I'll say it because I think everyone probably thinks that,
• 44:43
  but they might not say it. I'll just say it.
• 44:45
  I do like that part. I like connecting with people.
• 44:48
  I like just the whole thing. The only thing I don't like is
• 44:52
  when there's like negativity in trolls.
• 44:54
  But nowadays that shit doesn't really bother me.
• 44:57
  Like when I was in 2012. Oh, that shit really bothered
• 45:02
  me. I actually quit biking damn near
• 45:04
  because of that's probably why I quit is like negative comments
• 45:08
  literally. Now that it I don't really care.
• 45:12
  But but yeah, I think this is a great talk and I think we should
• 45:15
  have talks like this more because it's just there's so
• 45:19
  much opportunity in the world. Like it is the easiest time
• 45:23
  probably ever to be like super successful.
• 45:28
  I really think that. Well, and to create because.
• 45:30
  The world's at your fingertips. Avenues for revenue, for income
• 45:36
  that doesn't have to be the trade school, the university,
• 45:40
  the business job. You know, back in the day, that
• 45:44
  was that was all there was. Now you can become unique in,
• 45:50
  you know, the wildest of ways. And so you just have to like,
• 45:56
  we'll, we'll wrap it up and keep going.
• 45:58
  But like, you just have to be passionate about whatever that
• 46:03
  activity is, but you have to be a passionate about the entire
• 46:07
  creative process of it and fully immersed in it.
• 46:12
  You know, like, how many times do I tell you to put the phone
• 46:14
  down when we're having dinner or whatever?
• 46:16
  Be like, I got a comment back to this, like you just have to love
• 46:19
  to do. And I'm not saying that you, I
• 46:21
  do think eventually at a certain point you have to set boundaries
• 46:24
  of like because it. Is a business I can't.
• 46:26
  Overwhelm your life. I already have done that some.
• 46:28
  Yeah. And as you know, you continue to
• 46:31
  grow, whether it's like starting a family, people do or like you
• 46:35
  know, you are bringing on employees, you have to set times
• 46:39
  and schedules and and you're, you get more and more into the
• 46:43
  weeds there. But like, but anyways, you just
• 46:46
  have to love all parts of it. You have to be fully immersed in
• 46:50
  it. And that is tough to do if
• 46:53
  you're also managing a full time job.
• 46:56
  But it is possible, yeah. No, it is.
• 47:00
  Possible prime example of it, whether you work a nine to five
• 47:03
  or you as you were a realtor or whatever, it's possible.
• 47:09
  You just have to love to do it and I would say if you are
• 47:13
  passionate like you should. Start today, yeah.
• 47:18
  Start today and don't quit and. There's no.
• 47:20
  And The thing is, it's it's easier than ever to start
• 47:23
  because basically any phone now films amazing footage, has good
• 47:30
  audio. You can even put external mics
• 47:33
  on them. You don't have to go buy a
• 47:35
  camera, in fact. I would say probably most tik
• 47:39
  tokers out there nowadays. Almost all are using.
• 47:42
  It's all a tripod with a cell phone attached.
• 47:45
  Yeah, you know, and, and I'm just, I'm, I'm happy.
• 47:47
  I, I wasn't planning for a discussion to go here, but I'm
• 47:50
  really happy it did because I think this is good shit, you
• 47:53
  know? And if someone happens to be
• 47:54
  watching from a company that would like to potentially
• 47:57
  sponsor me, go ahead and reach out to bowdisciples@gmail.com.
• 48:01
  Rockstar Energy is like my dream sponsor, so if they reach out,
• 48:04
  that'd be fantastic. And shoot, I don't know.
• 48:10
  The next pod, by the way, drops on Christmas.
• 48:14
  How fun, How fun. Yeah, that was fun and we
• 48:17
  unfortunately won't be able to announce the winner.
• 48:19
  I would love it in that pod because.
• 48:21
  We could if we push the pod back one day.
• 48:24
  Should we just push it back one day?
• 48:27
  Yeah, you'd have to edit it Christmas Day.
• 48:31
  Honestly, honestly, I don't even have to edit it, I can just not
• 48:34
  do the crash zooms and I can just upload it.
• 48:36
  One chunk, yes. Then we can talk about it.
• 48:39
  Yeah, we could do that. And we're technically doing like
• 48:41
  our Christmas stuff Christmas Eve.
• 48:43
  So yeah, we, maybe we, maybe we pod and announce it on the pod
• 48:47
  and the pod will just come out the day after Christmas or
• 48:49
  Christmas like later maybe. Christmas morning and like our
• 48:52
  onesies or something. Like if onesies happen to be
• 48:55
  here, you know? Oh my and.
• 48:57
  Sweaters for Elvis and Oh my God with our hot cocoa.
• 49:01
  And maybe we'll open a present on the on the channel or.
• 49:05
  Should we talk about the hunt I might be doing?
• 49:07
  Or maybe we wait on that one till it's a little more
• 49:09
  official. I, I think we can talk about it
• 49:12
  like it's a possible that it's very possible that you're going
• 49:16
  to do it. And even if you don't do this
• 49:18
  one, at some point you or we are going.
• 49:21
  To I think I probably will be doing it, yeah.
• 49:24
  Yeah, I think you could talk about it.
• 49:28
  South Africa, Yeah. What do you?
• 49:31
  Think you're joining the crowd? Yeah.
• 49:33
  What do you think of that? What did you start?
• 49:35
  Gonna hate you, I said. You're joined in the crew.
• 49:37
  What's the crew? You know, just the the paid.
• 49:40
  Oh, I love it. Paid hunting hunter.
• 49:43
  Oh, I love it the. Private land?
• 49:45
  Oh, that's all we gotta do is add a high fence in it.
• 49:48
  Oh. The verified check mark can go.
• 49:53
  I'm not. Yeah, yeah, that's insane.
• 49:56
  That's. Insane.
• 49:57
  Yeah, but shout out. To the I just my favorite, my
• 50:01
  favorite when we post stuff like the the feeder or the South
• 50:05
  Africa is just thinking about like the the few locals that
• 50:09
  really hate me. Those poor bastards, dude.
• 50:13
  I. Feel bad.
• 50:14
  Yeah, I. Actually, don't feel bad, but it
• 50:16
  is funny. Yeah, it is.
• 50:17
  But anyways, yeah, South Africa. I mean, you know, I think we've
• 50:22
  joked or talked about it or whatnot.
• 50:24
  A little jealous that I won't be going, but I also need to focus
• 50:27
  on getting a job. Well, it's just expensive.
• 50:29
  I mean just a plane alone. It's expensive, I think we
• 50:32
  looked it up. The cheapest flight we found
• 50:34
  based on where you do grand. Just over 2 grand for the there
• 50:38
  and back. Yeah, and I got to renew my
• 50:40
  passport because I haven't been jet setting since I finished
• 50:43
  biking. Yeah, yeah, so well.
• 50:45
  I mean I have. Is this the?
• 50:46
  Continent you've touched down on No, no.
• 50:49
  OK, so the add a new continent to the list.
• 50:52
  If if it happens, and it would be happening relatively soon,
• 50:54
  which is kind of crazy. So I mean I'm ready for it.
• 50:58
  I'm going to definitely put the bow in performance as there's
• 51:01
  some big animals. So we're going to put the bow in
• 51:03
  performance. We're going to shoot the beast
• 51:05
  2/2 inch, not the two point threes.
• 51:07
  And we're going to make sure it's got a strong case to fly
• 51:10
  in. Oh yes, it it needs to make it.
• 51:13
  I'm not going to use my play, no.
• 51:15
  No, no, that one. You know that I could pop a
• 51:18
  pencil K the class. Is B dude, but hey, it keeps
• 51:22
  trucking along. It does, yeah.
• 51:23
  I trust it For our short, you know, few hours I.
• 51:26
  Used it for every flight that I do.
• 51:29
  The only one I didn't use it was when I went to go with do cams
• 51:32
  show because I was like, but this big of opportunity, I'm not
• 51:36
  showing up with a Broken Bow. Yeah, that's the only one.
• 51:38
  Other than that I'm like whatever.
• 51:40
  So it's been great. So shout out to play.
• 51:42
  I'd almost find a case that you can fit like 2 bows in because
• 51:46
  that way you got a backup out there which.
• 51:48
  So I will say this about the case that I run.
• 51:51
  Which the depth we can see. I love, I actually love the size
• 51:55
  and shape. Yeah, they're just not the most
• 51:57
  bulletproof. Like the the connections on the
• 52:01
  back where it folds, they always look like they're going to burst
• 52:04
  and flick fall out. Well, and I just feel like.
• 52:06
  Shape wise you cannot beat that case.
• 52:09
  Well, not just shape the depth like the cases nowadays just
• 52:13
  don't have that depth, the ability to pack more in them.
• 52:16
  I mean, it's a. Full suitcase.
• 52:18
  Yeah, yeah. But for a trip like this that
• 52:21
  you want to keep the bow safe, I would for sure have something
• 52:24
  that's durable. And then if you got to pay for
• 52:26
  an extra, you know, checked bag for your actual luggage and
• 52:31
  clothing, then that's, you know, what you do.
• 52:33
  But anyway, so you'd be going to South Africa.
• 52:35
  It's a continent you've never touched down on, animals you've
• 52:39
  never seen before. I think it's like the next step.
• 52:42
  And I always, I tell you like this, you know, it like the
• 52:46
  channel is not hunting specific. There are channels out there who
• 52:49
  are specifically geared themselves to hunting.
• 52:52
  That is not your niche, but it's still a part of the channel and
• 53:00
  I think there are new avenues to be explored in there.
• 53:04
  Just like you're exploring target shooting out for archery
• 53:08
  that is a another Ave. within archery, so is hunting in new
• 53:13
  locations. New species, too, just, you
• 53:16
  know, whitetail with all this shit in South Africa.
• 53:20
  Yeah. A lot of new stuff, you know,
• 53:21
  all within the niche, you know, And then obviously a lot of our
• 53:27
  bread and butter stuff will still be there.
• 53:28
  The fun stuff, 3D shoots, the, you know, crazy challenges like,
• 53:34
  oh, that's still going to be in there, you know, But it's like
• 53:37
  adding these other pieces to make it more of like a complete
• 53:40
  package, you know? Yeah.
• 53:42
  So. Yeah.
• 53:43
  Just everything you'd want to find about archery, but fun is
• 53:47
  found. For sure.
• 53:49
  Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I think I
• 53:52
  think that's probably a pretty good place to wrap up.
• 53:54
  I don't know how long we've been potting.
• 53:55
  Feels like a long time. But to close it out, I want
• 54:00
  people to just try to crush your goals and dreams, man.
• 54:04
  That's always like my thing. I'm so ruthlessly chasing what
• 54:09
  I'm trying to do. And I wish.
• 54:11
  I hope everyone finds something that drives them like that.
• 54:17
  You know, that's kind of like the best case scenario,
• 54:20
  something that you just like, are fully committed to doing,
• 54:25
  you know? Yeah.
• 54:26
  And I think everyone has something like that.
• 54:29
  Maybe not everyone, but like, you just got to find what that
• 54:33
  is. Yes, you know, and then just go
• 54:36
  for it till the end of the earth.
• 54:42
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• 54:44
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• 55:12
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• 55:15
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• 55:18
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