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Scott Lively: ‘Dynasty Of Darkness,’ Thrones Of Satan & His Antichrists · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Fiorazo.
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Well, hello friends, welcome to another episode of The Podcast.
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Thank you so much for sharing and for praying for us.
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The Spiritual Warfare doesn't stop as I know you can probably attest to your own personal
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life and the warfare involved in just being a Christian on this planet, especially in
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America, for those of us here that are fighting these wars, these culture wars and the
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truth war, but the battle, it rages, but it's worth fighting.
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I want to bring in our guest today, Scott Lively, he's an author, pastor, teacher, and
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he's got a couple more books coming out.
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Today, we're going to be talking about his brand new book called Dynasty of Darkness.
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It's volume one in a three-part series, subtitle the history of Satan's Antichrists and
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the rise of his final kingdom.
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You can get this at scottlively.store and I want to bring in Scott right now.
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Welcome back to The Podcast, brother.
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Great to see you again.
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Great to be back with you, David.
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It's always fun.
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Yeah, it is.
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I'm excited to talk about some of what's in your book and just why you decided to write
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it at this time.
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But first, you've got a very interesting story about some recent travels and warfare and
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just some hassles you've gone through and what you've learned about AI.
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Give us the short version, but tell us about what you've been doing.
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Well, my wife and I took our annual vacation.
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We should like to do this time of the year to avoid the cold and we took a cruise from
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Los Angeles to Sydney, Australia.
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A fantastic cruise except for the problem of the Australian visa.
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I applied for the Australian visa and they never gave it to me.
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They didn't deny it.
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They just never gave it to me.
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And because of that, we got kicked off the ship in New Zealand and we tried to make
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our way home.
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We went from Dunedin, New Zealand to Queenstown, New Zealand to pick up an airplane so we
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could make our connection in Sydney.
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We were denied boarding and had to take another bus to a Christ church where we could catch
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a plane that would bypass Australia.
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And of course, take us directly to the final insult, the Harvey Milk International Airport
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in San Francisco, all places.
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But it was an incredible situation of increasing uncertainty.
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And I'm traveling with my handicap wife and the Chinese New Year was running and the
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country was flooded with Chinese tourists or no hotel rooms, literally no hotel rooms,
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no rental cars, no bus tickets and many a lot of the time.
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And we looked like we had to sleep in McDonald's or something.
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But at every step of the way, the Lord didn't just intervene and save us at that at just
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the last minute, but did so in a profound way that was a great blessing.
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And we got to experience New Zealand, which is one of the countries I've always wanted
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to go to, in a way that a few people ever get to do and even staying at the Millbrook
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Resort Hotel, where world leaders stay, gorgeous, beautiful place in a room that had the
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very best view of Middle-Earth.
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And that's why they filmed Lord of the Rings, Queenstown area of it.
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It was just awesome, but the problem of it all was AI.
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The reason I couldn't get the visa is the Australian system is completely run by computers.
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There is no human contact or oversight.
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Oh my goodness.
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And I waited almost a month for the visa that 90% of them, it comes through in minutes.
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This lasted almost a month and caused us enormous expense and hassle, but the Lord redeemed
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it.
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Wow.
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Well, that's a huge adventure.
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And yeah, as you see, the final insult having to fly into San Francisco, staying okay
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for those of you that don't know about Scott's background, you're going to have to share
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just a little bit more about Harvey Milk and your work and then-
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The most Canadian homophobic in the world.
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Paul Singer, the billionaire who pushed the LGBT agenda into the Republican Party, funded
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a dossier on me by the Human Rights Campaign, naming me as public enemy number one globally
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of the LGBT agenda.
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It's a great badge of honor.
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I've got the pinked plastic homosexuality in the Nazi Party that I published with Kevin
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Abrams and Orthodox Jewish Holocaust researcher back in 1995.
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Wow.
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Put me on the Southern Poverty Law Center's hit list and hate list.
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The oldest ranking Christian hate group member who is not completely crazy.
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Fred Phelps got it every before me, but he's a nut.
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Anyway, badges of honor.
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And so having to get off the plane and walk past this gigantic 30-foot tall photograph
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of Harvey Milk and his homosexual lover, you know, Harvey Milk, the petarist, right?
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The petarist who is the symbol for the LGBT movement like Martin Luther King is for the
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black community.
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Anyway, that was the last insult having to walk past that.
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Did you get a picture in front of the-
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Did you get a picture in front of the-
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Yeah, right, right, of course.
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I'm back in Barnyard Studios here on my son's Fixer Upper Farm and life is good.
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We've got all four of our granddaughters coming over tonight as well as son and daughter
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large and have a date night.
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Wow.
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Well, Scott, we, I mean, for those of us who've been, you know, keeping up with you for
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years, I appreciate the battles that you've taken on and thankful for your voice and
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the work that you've done, the research that you've done.
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And it's very important, but let's transition into your new book, The Dynasty of Darkness
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and it's the first volume, anti-Christ of the ancient world.
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Very interesting.
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I just want to read part of the description, which is on your website.
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The book explores the occult roots of the European Union and the historical significance
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of the altar of Pergamum, Mr. Rudder of the Bible now.
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To investigate the potential connection between various thrones of Satan mentioned in the
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Bible, such as Babel, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Greece, Rome and notably, Hitler's Third
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Reich.
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That's a fascinating one.
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And the possibility of a modern anti-Christ figure embodying their legacy.
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Now we know what happened when Obama did his speech in 2008 and he was in these pillars
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of that altar.
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So wherever you want to start, Scott, you might as well start with what made you decide
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to do this series at this point.
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Well, let me just, let me just say a way right into Obama, Obama's altar that he accepted
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the nomination for the Democratic, as the Democratic candidate for 2008.
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That was modeled directly on the Pergamum altar, which sits in the back story of this.
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The Pergamum altar was built by King Eumenese II of Pergamus, immediately upon the death
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of Antiochus IV epiphanies, the Antichrist of Daniel chapter 11, right?
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There are two full apocryphal books written about his life and the impact that he had on
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the Hebrew people, first and second Macapies.
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Daniel 11 only has a small sort of mention, but that's who he's talking about.
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The one who sets up the abomination of desolation, right?
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He really did.
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Didn't he slaughter pigs on the altar?
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Didn't he actually do that?
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Yeah, but the whole nine yards, you can read it in first Macapies to begin with the story,
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just amazing.
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And Daniel 11, you get a little bit of it there, but so King Eumenese was the patron and
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supporter of Antiochus epiphanies, Antiochus IV.
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He was the fourth Antiochus who called himself epiphanus, which means the God you can see,
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or the manifest God.
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And after he was basically defeated and overthrown by Judah Macapie, Judah the hammer, that's
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the whole story of Hanukkah, right?
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The re-dedication of the temple, the cleansing of the temple, the lamp, and all that.
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That's the story.
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That's where that comes from.
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Because they were cleaning it up after the Antichrist got defeated in 164 AD.
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And then Eumenese then built the Pergamum altar, I believe, to be the satanic portal to
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the west of where it had originally been.
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I believe the original portal is the temple of Marduk in Babylon.
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Babylon means the gate of the gods or the gate of God.
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Its own name identifies it as a portal.
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And the seat of Satan was, I believe, clearly a portal by which the demons can't function
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in the world the way that the angels can.
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Angels can even take human form.
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You can't even tell that they're angels, that scripture warns us, don't be careful when
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you're entertaining strangers, because they might be angels.
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That's right.
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They can't do that.
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Only if they're going to operate in the world, they have to do it in a sort of formless
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state, spiritual state, where they can't actually have much in the way of contact with human
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beings, or they have to possess a human being or an animal.
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Remember Jesus, they asked Jesus if they could be cast into the pigs when he was dealing
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with the gathering demoniac.
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So anyway, the premise that I'm operating from is that, first, it's Satan is a created
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being, he's not finite, he's not all seeing, but he's extremely powerful, and he's the
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head of a demonic army, all the angels that were cast down with him are the demons.
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That's who the demons are.
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All kinds of theories and demonology that depart from that.
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But the simplest and most obvious explanation is that's who the demons are.
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We know that it happened.
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It's a past tense event, because in Job, Job begins with the story of God interviewing
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Satan, where have you been?
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He says, I have been roaming the earth and walking on it, and those are the two states
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of being, roaming and walking, roaming in the disembodied spiritual state, or walking
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on it in the possession of a human being.
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And always wants to be in the world, because that's how he has the greatest effect on human
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beings in human society.
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He can try to undo God's, what God has done.
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And whoever Satan is in possession of at any given time is the Antichrist of that moment,
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because that's who the last day's Antichrist is.
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He's the possession of Satan himself operating in human form to have the greatest impact
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that he can on the world.
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So that's sort of the, some of the presuppositions of the book, and I explore all that.
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This first volume traces the line of Satanic Antichrist going back all the way to the
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beginning.
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I think Kane was the very first Antichrist, remember, it says in John chapter, was it eight,
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forty-four, that he's speaking to the Jews and accusing them of having a father of
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the devil, right?
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He was a murderer from the beginning.
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What's the first murder in the Bible?
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Kane, murdering Able.
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He was an Antichrist figure.
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He was doing the work of the devil, and then you see that all through.
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So that's what the first book, it traces the history of the Antichrist through the Bible
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all the way.
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So let's go to Revelation 2.13.
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This is part of what we're talking about here, so people can realize, okay, that's right.
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That is in one of the letters to one of the churches in John's chapter 2 and 3, a revelation
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chapter 2 and 3.
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It says in verse 12, to the angel of the church in Pergamum, right, the one who has the sharp
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two-edged sword says this, I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is, and you hold
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firmly to my name, and did not deny my faith, even in the days of Antipas, my witness,
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my faithful one who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.
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So let's stop right there, Scott, anything you want to say before we move on about that?
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Very important verse.
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Well, that's it.
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I mean, that's a literal explanation by God to human beings of how this works.
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Antipas was the bishop of that area.
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He was murdered, tradition holds by being put in the hollowed out of a brass bowl, hollowed
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out, and then burned alive, roasted alive in a fire.
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Of course, the bowl is a symbol of Satan, the Zeus is the bowl, you know, the demonic
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pantheon, right, Satan's higher echelon are seen all through mythology, right, the same
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group of characters, all demons with different names, Zeus, Jupiter, Bale, Voton, right, just
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on and on.
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And the same thing with the female counterpart, Astorath, Astara, Astarte, you know, Ishtar,
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it's all the same demon, but with different names in different cultures.
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So we're going to take a very quick break a lot to get into here, but we're now diving
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a little bit into Scott's first book in this series of three Dynasty of Darkness Volume
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1.
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So Scott Lively's our guest today in the book Dynasty of Darkness is available on his
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website exclusively.
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It's Scott Lively dot store.
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His website is Scott Lively dot net.
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And you can read some of his other writings as well, but Scott, I want to go to another
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verse.
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And that is in first John and chapter two, verse 18 says, children, it is the last hour.
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And just as you heard that anti Christ, small A is coming, even now many anti Christ have
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appeared from this.
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We know that it is the last hour.
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So Scott, this was a couple thousand years ago.
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And so with the world today, I mean, we're seeing demonic activity that's off the charts.
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So just bring some context to this verse and then we'll and jump into your book a little
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bit more.
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Yeah, that's John is distinguishing, but John is talking about apostates in the church,
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people who had joined the church and then turned against.
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And he basically saying there's lots of anti Christ and anybody who's against Jesus Christ,
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especially in the context of having accepted him and then turned away.
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But he also mentioned the anti Christ, capital A, that's completely distinct and separate,
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right?
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Anybody who's against Christ is an anti Christ, even the big A anti Christ is against Christ.
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But there it's only the individuals who are being possessed by the demon Satan that
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are the capital A anti Christ.
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And importantly, there isn't just one, right?
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There's some people look at Daniel chapter 11 and they're sort of, they're trying to
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project it into the future and say, well, this hasn't really happened.
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This is a future event.
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No, it's a past event and actual historic recorded history.
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And the book of Maccabees, one and two Maccabees, two books, if they're not inspired scripture,
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they're not part of the canon of the Bible, but they are extraordinarily reliable history.
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And they're included in the Catholic Bible in the apocrypha.
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And the Catholic, the Catholics vetted the apocrypha.
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They hold it to be scripture, but they still keep it in this separate section.
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And only a certain number of the apocryphal books, the Protestant Bible is 66 books, the
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Catholic Bible has 73 and the difference there are these books, first and second Maccabees
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being two of them.
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They have the highest reliability of any of the apocryphal books because they have been
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vetted.
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If they aren't in those lists and stay away from them, they're usually from us.
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All this stuff has been heavily investigated over the centuries by, you know, Bible scholars.
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So.
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And you can get a lot of historical information from some of these other books.
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They're not advocating.
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And like you said, they're not inspired, they're not, you know, in the canon.
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But they are some books you can learn from.
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I mean, you can learn from Josephus and others, you know, Tacitus and others, historians
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and there's some very helpful information.
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Let me add one more thing, David.
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Go ahead.
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One more thing is that what I tell Christians who are often the people that you find reading
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these apocryphal books for something other than scholarship, like I'm talking about, don't
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know the Bible very well at all and they get and that's a real danger.
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Yeah.
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Don't be going outside the Bible for information until or entertainment until you have a
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rock solid found grounding in the Bible itself where you know the Bible inside and out.
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So you know what that you can check the things you find in other places against what you
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already know to be true because only the Bible is absolutely, completely trustworthy.
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So Scott, I'm reading something from one of your newsletters under the conquest of
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demons where you just introduced the idea of your book and the premise for it and talking
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about it.
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But you're talking a little bit about book two volume two now in this particular context
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about Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany reconstructed the temple, not the temple, the throne.
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I heard that Hitler was the one that brought it to Berlin.
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That was Germany.
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Kaiser Wilhelm was the second Reich.
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Right.
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A lot of people don't know this that there was a first and second Reich before the third
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Reich.
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Okay.
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But anyway, the the program of alter was heavily damaged in the 300 to the 400s and it fell
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out of use.
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The Germans discovered it and excavated it in the mid to late 1800s in the government
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of Turkey to give it to them.
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The Germans actually were given the right to own it to take it away.
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And so they were excavating it there in Germany and sending it piece by piece back to Berlin
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where it was reassembled on German soil.
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And in this process, that's exactly the time when Friedrich Nietzsche, who was really
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the satanic counterpart to John the Baptist, Friedrich Nietzsche's, but it arises out
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of nowhere and preaching that God is dead and that writes a book called the Antichrist
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and also writes a book called the Gay Science, which is where the term gay actually comes
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from in the modern LGBT history.
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Nietzsche was the apostle that sort of created the mindset of Nazism and then the next major
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figure in history that's dramatically affected by this is Kaiser Wilhelm himself.
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He said that bringing the program of Walter to Berlin was the greatest achievement of
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his regency, but it didn't stop him from having all kinds of horrible publicity.
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He was exposed by a Jewish newspaper magnate named Maximilian Harden, who exposed that
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the Kaiser was completely controlled by a cabal of homosexuals from the Prussian military.
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And there was a series of scandals, seven years worth of high levels scandals that completely
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enraptured and consumed the German government for all that time until the Kaiser started World
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War I according to German contemporaries that I've cited in the book.
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He started World War I to distract the people, right, to take the attention off of his collapsing
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government because of these scandals.
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And then World War I becomes the most bloody and evil war in the history of Christianized
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Western world.
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And then Kaiser Wilhelm is followed by Adolf Hitler, who, and I've got a picture in the book
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of all the Nazi officers on the seat of Satan itself.
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And then Hitler has Albert Speer design his Nuremberg rally complex where all the movies
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are all with the tens of thousands of troops all lined up.
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That is the program I'm alter redesigned for the Nazi use with the swastikas and all
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that.
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Just look at, look side by side, just go and look at the picture, just see it's it's
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almost a direct copy.
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And and of course, Hitler is an antichrist figure attempting to slaughter all the Jews and
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to slaughter Christians too.
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Right.
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I've got a book that I used, I picked up in the research for the fourth edition of the
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Pink Swastika called Race Devilement that actually accuses Christianity of being the
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pawn of the Jews for the perpetuation of Jewish theory and and that both Jews and Christians
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were bent on defiling the race.
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And so Christians were targeted too.
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But that's one of the factors, the defining characteristics of the antichrist.
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I list six different characteristics in the book that I look for that not every person
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has fits everyone, but they all contain many of the elements of the six.
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And one of them is a is a bitter hatred against Christians and Jews, right?
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The two houses, right, they're both a revival and hated by antichrist figures.
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So again, what we're talking about is something from the Bible where at least in Revelation
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13, it says there is a literal throne of Satan.
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It says where Satan's throne is and and now we're talking about how it's been it was brought
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to Berlin and how Hitler used it, how former President Barack Obama used it in his speech
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to get the except the Democratic nomination for President back in 2008.
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It's really it's symbolic, Scott Lively, that a sitting or a you a senator at the time
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running for president would use that as a backdrop.
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You're closing thoughts on that.
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Well, I've identified Barack Obama the most likely candidate for the last day's antichrist
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that would that's walking the planet.
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I sort of backed off from that somewhat when when he left the presidency, but then I then
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when I found out how much he actually controls Biden really is Joe Biden is sort of Barack
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Obama's avatar.
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And Barack Joe Biden is really sort of Barack Obama's antichrist, right?
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You know, if the if the if the antichrist is whoever Satan is possessing at any given
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time, then then Joe Biden is the possession of Barack Obama and really just seems to be
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speaking, you know, doing his bidding.
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But yeah, Biden isn't running things.
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But before we wrap up, we've just got two minutes left here, Scott February 1st, you kind
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of celebrated a milestone in that it was 38 years ago.
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You were delivered, share with our audience about that for those that don't know.
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Yeah, I was an alcoholic and a drug addict for 16 years from the age of 12 when I became
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an alcoholic.
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I was in bondage completely and totally during that time toward the end, tried to quit many,
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many different ways and finally accepted the advice I've received from so many Christians,
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just accept Jesus into your heart, ask him to come into your heart and he will change
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your life.
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And when I didn't have any place left to turn, I did.
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And I was completely healed and delivered in a prayer of surrender to him, never have
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another desire to take drugs or drink ever again to this day.
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Amazing.
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So February 1st of this year, 38 years.
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What's interesting the way you worded this is we are not to try to conquer our demons,
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right?
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Christ can.
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He can do it.
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We're fighting these battles sometimes in the flesh and unsuccessfully.
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But praise God that you trusted in Christ and now we encourage you.
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If you're struggling with anything out there watching or listing this podcast, trust
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Jesus.
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He can do all things.
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You can do all things through him.
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And he comes not my wall right over my shoulder.
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Trust Jesus.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he has, he already has the victory.
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He won truth, wins in the end and we are, we have a great hope.
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The blessed hope to look forward to Scott Lively.net again, the book, friends Dynasty of
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Darkness, you can pick it up on Scott's website in the store there.
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So much more to talk about.
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We will continue.
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We will continue this conversation with you Scott, but thanks for your time, brother.
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God bless you.
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Thanks for all your work.
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God bless.
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Bye now.
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All right.
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All right, friends.
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Keep sharing the podcast is getting out there in the show is growing.
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Thanks to you.
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God bless you.
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And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.