Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 327: Pain (SG-U 1.17)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Do I sound normal to you guys? I just yeah,
- 0:03Speaker 1: I like if you guys sound normal to me. I
- 0:05Speaker 1: just feel like I'm just I can't quite find this
- 0:07Speaker 1: the right spot on the mic or anything.
- 0:09Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, maybe it was a volume thing. Yeah, okay,
- 0:13Speaker 1: that's cool.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Someone who lifted my d ms during the week and said,
- 0:17Speaker 3: with the new microphones, it's even harder to tell the
- 0:19Speaker 3: difference between you two. Really, I believe they used the
- 0:21Speaker 3: word muppets.
- 0:23Speaker 4: Muppets.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take the two muppets that I work with. Yeah, yeah,
- 0:27Speaker 3: been called worse mate by me. Not a problem.
- 0:32Speaker 5: What's the thing you're trying to take over the ship again?
- 0:35Speaker 4: Permission?
- 0:36Speaker 6: Definitely, for permission.
- 0:37Speaker 5: Grand he was whatever force necessary to stop them.
- 0:41Speaker 4: Don't be that.
- 0:43Speaker 5: Where it's going on here? What is it? The stress
- 0:46Speaker 5: of life on this ship? It's one or more people
- 0:48Speaker 5: aren't cracking up your life.
- 0:50Speaker 4: She thinks she kills me. You you were in my room.
- 0:54Speaker 4: I'm seeing things too, my son.
- 0:56Speaker 5: I keep seeing him.
- 0:58Speaker 7: Come to the infirmary.
- 0:59Speaker 4: I just it's something.
- 1:01Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like that's moving. The toxic is Maybe
- 1:05Speaker 5: they target the Olympic system.
- 1:07Speaker 8: That's theory of the brain that's responsible for emotions, so fear, anger, remorse.
- 1:13Speaker 5: Matt's guilto for his son, claustrophobia, my dad, Hey Chloe.
- 1:22Speaker 4: No, no, you're You're not real?
- 1:26Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?
- 1:27Speaker 7: These are things that might inject some kind of talks
- 1:29Speaker 7: in that causes people.
- 1:30Speaker 5: We have to know.
- 1:31Speaker 4: No, wait, it doesn't hurt.
- 1:33Speaker 5: That's not the Point's we're living our dream.
- 1:37Speaker 4: Remember that you love.
- 1:40Speaker 5: I love me too, sweet.
- 2:10Speaker 9: Get into Gate episode three hundred and twenty seven took
- 2:14Speaker 9: in Stargate universe Mitch here with Maddie up and Brendan
- 2:19Speaker 9: mate on the buttons over there.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Jesus, we had some fun last week. We got a
- 2:22Speaker 1: little bit loose last week for sabotage.
- 2:25Speaker 3: I've already had a couple of people sort of reach
- 2:28Speaker 3: out and saying, what's wrong with you?
- 2:29Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean first they said, what was the one
- 2:33Speaker 2: that was.
- 2:33Speaker 4: On before that? Loss?
- 2:35Speaker 3: I said, Loss was probably our gayest episode ever, because
- 2:37Speaker 3: apparently there was some point I've blocked it out, but
- 2:39Speaker 3: apparently some point you asked.
- 2:40Speaker 4: To open my ass or reopen my ass. I don't
- 2:43Speaker 4: remember that, Like that doesn't stand out.
- 2:46Speaker 10: But the.
- 2:48Speaker 3: High high pitch Maddie just an absolute runaway sensation.
- 2:55Speaker 4: In the edit.
- 2:55Speaker 1: I was surprised at the amount of times where you
- 2:58Speaker 1: would say to Brennan.
- 3:00Speaker 4: And then did you hear it? You know? Turn out?
- 3:02Speaker 3: I actually wish that I had a button on my
- 3:04Speaker 3: mincrophone because I I would actually be down to do
- 3:06Speaker 3: an entire episode.
- 3:06Speaker 4: I just didn't, and I think that would be too much.
- 3:08Speaker 1: I didn't remember you doing it as many times as
- 3:11Speaker 1: what it's like in the Did.
- 3:16Speaker 2: You just slide the board over here just just so
- 3:18Speaker 2: I can just tap it whenever I'm ready?
- 3:20Speaker 4: Thank you for your services. Again, press that button.
- 3:23Speaker 2: I was pink last time.
- 3:24Speaker 4: Was it yellow?
- 3:24Speaker 2: This time?
- 3:25Speaker 4: I changed it? Yeah, you're going to get into high
- 3:27Speaker 4: rotation president this see I knew it. I knew it
- 3:36Speaker 4: it was pink. I knew it was the wrong color here.
- 3:39Speaker 1: I was thinking it was going to be a Brendan
- 3:40Speaker 1: knows way.
- 3:41Speaker 4: More about star guy.
- 3:42Speaker 2: That would have been good.
- 3:43Speaker 4: We'll do. Let me did this. I did it for
- 3:46Speaker 4: real that we'll go.
- 3:51Speaker 10: It makes me. It makes me my head shone. So
- 3:59Speaker 10: if anyone wants to know what it's like to live
- 4:02Speaker 10: inside my brain, this is what.
- 4:07Speaker 4: Windows grab. What are we talking?
- 4:12Speaker 1: Episode seventeen of season.
- 4:14Speaker 4: Of one plane.
- 4:30Speaker 1: How can you coming members of the crew begin experiencing
- 4:34Speaker 1: disturbing realistic hallucinations, with the hallucinations spreading to other members
- 4:39Speaker 1: of the crew. Dtor Johansson otherwise known as TJ, must
- 4:42Speaker 1: track down whatever is causing the episodes before someone die.
- 4:51Speaker 3: All respect to TJ, but I'm not calling her doctor Johansson.
- 4:56Speaker 3: That's that's a that's a slap to the face of
- 4:59Speaker 3: Doc Fraser, you know what I mean.
- 5:01Speaker 4: Some old school names attached to this one.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Written by Carl Binderbinder and directed by William Wearing, the
- 5:08Speaker 1: will start.
- 5:10Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll take it.
- 5:13Speaker 1: For a first time, I this this felt like one
- 5:16Speaker 1: of those like, Okay, we're getting close to the end
- 5:18Speaker 1: of the season. We just need something else in there,
- 5:20Speaker 1: just to goodness to the end of the line before
- 5:22Speaker 1: we you know, wrap things up the way that we
- 5:24Speaker 1: want to. It probably felt like the most fillerish episode
- 5:28Speaker 1: of this, like to the point where I'm like, oh,
- 5:30Speaker 1: this just feels like I'm watching a you know, whatever
- 5:32Speaker 1: season of SG one. Yeah, this doesn't belong here. And
- 5:35Speaker 1: that's not to say, oh, well, you know this sort
- 5:37Speaker 1: of episode. What's fine to go on SG one? Like
- 5:39Speaker 1: I've said SG one's top tier star Gate.
- 5:41Speaker 4: It's great, but.
- 5:43Speaker 1: It just doesn't It didn't feel like it fit the
- 5:45Speaker 1: tone of this show just to have like this thing
- 5:48Speaker 1: that's obviously now when they said that, hey, this this
- 5:51Speaker 1: way team went down to the planet. That's a planet
- 5:53Speaker 1: they're visited between episodes, right, it's not.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Like, yeah, so basically and the end of last episode
- 5:59Speaker 3: we left the previous galaxy. Sometime between then and now,
- 6:03Speaker 3: we've been in the galaxy, in this new galaxy for
- 6:06Speaker 3: some amount of time where there's been an away mission
- 6:08Speaker 3: that we haven't seen as an audience because Chloe has
- 6:12Speaker 3: that line where she says, welcome to our new galaxy.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Now.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Fun fact, this episode was actually supposed to be episode eighteen.
- 6:20Speaker 3: Episode seventeen was supposed to be an episode called The
- 6:23Speaker 3: Greater Good, which got bumped to episode seven of season
- 6:27Speaker 3: two because when Joe was writing the finale episode twenty,
- 6:32Speaker 3: it became a two parter, so it would have it
- 6:36Speaker 3: would have been.
- 6:37Speaker 4: Should have kept it one, Yeah, it would have.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Been pain to award to Yeah, Pain, Subversion and then
- 6:43Speaker 3: Incursion as a single episode.
- 6:46Speaker 2: So they pulled.
- 6:47Speaker 3: Out The Greater Good and moved that to episode seven
- 6:51Speaker 3: of next season, which I feel like this could have been,
- 6:53Speaker 3: you know, the episode seven of next season. I don't
- 6:55Speaker 3: remember what the Greater Good is because you know me
- 6:57Speaker 3: with Universe. Yeah, so they had an extra spot of
- 6:59Speaker 3: AURB to make the finale a two part.
- 7:02Speaker 4: Oh that's the one where Greer and Scott get it on.
- 7:05Speaker 4: Oh okay, really I don't remember either that. Yeah, just
- 7:09Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm watching it.
- 7:10Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, this is just this is clearly going
- 7:12Speaker 1: to be my least favorite episode of season one, and
- 7:16Speaker 1: not even that it was necessarily a bad episode of television.
- 7:19Speaker 1: It just I don't know, was such a diversion away
- 7:22Speaker 1: from anything that we've had otherwise so far in sgu
- 7:26Speaker 1: even to the point where you said, oh no, it's
- 7:27Speaker 1: clearly like in this new galaxy.
- 7:29Speaker 4: And part of me wanted to yell at that and.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Say, well, hang on, what why Why couldn't we have
- 7:34Speaker 1: seen that first planet of this new galaxy?
- 7:36Speaker 2: Ye?
- 7:36Speaker 1: Like, who would know the difference? Like if you had
- 7:39Speaker 1: watched this episode out of order, you wouldn't and we
- 7:42Speaker 1: would have seen that planet. What would have made it
- 7:43Speaker 1: so different? It's not like, oh, in this galaxy, all
- 7:46Speaker 1: the planets are blah, like we're always going to go
- 7:48Speaker 1: to one that's pretty similar to the last one we
- 7:50Speaker 1: went to.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost screams to me of last week or
- 7:54Speaker 3: the week before we inserted the oh, we're leaving the
- 7:57Speaker 3: galaxy while these other episodes are already written, so they
- 8:00Speaker 3: were just like, oh, so they just inserted Chlaue with
- 8:03Speaker 3: that line being like drop, welcome.
- 8:05Speaker 4: To our new galaxy, and that was it.
- 8:06Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it is a shame because I think
- 8:09Speaker 3: what would have been really interesting is to explore because
- 8:11Speaker 3: we were talking about it last week, like well, they're
- 8:14Speaker 3: saying the two percent or five percent power difference would
- 8:18Speaker 3: have brought us up like almost half the width of
- 8:21Speaker 3: the Milky Way, short of where we needed to get
- 8:23Speaker 3: to the next galaxy, like to the next Sun. I
- 8:27Speaker 3: would have loved to have explored the loneliness or the
- 8:31Speaker 3: you know, of them just being between galaxies for however long.
- 8:35Speaker 4: And this episode could have fit into half ooh Phil.
- 8:38Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like, yeah, I would have rather if
- 8:41Speaker 3: we If this show is so much more about character
- 8:44Speaker 3: development than it is about Planet of the Week and
- 8:46Speaker 3: things about that, it's like, yeah, well, they're already feeling
- 8:49Speaker 3: isolated away from their family. Imagine if it's like, okay,
- 8:52Speaker 3: well there's no away missions because the destiny's not stopping anywhere.
- 8:56Speaker 2: It's almost like, oh, the.
- 8:57Speaker 3: Stones are an extra high supply and people are arguing
- 9:00Speaker 3: over no, you went long or my turn or you
- 9:03Speaker 3: know whatever. I think that could have been a really
- 9:06Speaker 3: interesting thing to explore rather than phobia bugs.
- 9:09Speaker 4: So you can tell Cooper's still yeah, hallucination bugs.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised there wasn't a homophobia outbreak and someone
- 9:18Speaker 3: got a tick on the back of the head and
- 9:21Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, there's gay people everywhere, like
- 9:24Speaker 3: Homer in the when he goes I think this club
- 9:27Speaker 3: would be gay.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, said I finished this, and I'm like, what, So,
- 9:33Speaker 1: what was the point of this? Like what did we
- 9:35Speaker 1: learn out of this that we didn't otherwise know? And
- 9:38Speaker 1: other than Lieutenant she's a lieutenant James, right, Lieutenant James. Yeah,
- 9:41Speaker 1: other than her like clearly having some you know, long
- 9:45Speaker 1: issues over Scott.
- 9:47Speaker 4: Yeah, what else do we learn in this episode?
- 9:50Speaker 3: We do learn that even in other people's fantasies, Scott
- 9:52Speaker 3: is still a whore.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like I mean, at that point, obviously
- 9:55Speaker 1: we don't know it's an hallucination, but it opens up
- 9:59Speaker 1: and then and now I will say this, I started this.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Uh well, I started watching this at work and.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Slipping on some porn at work.
- 10:10Speaker 1: So like the previously on the little setup, it's happening,
- 10:13Speaker 1: and I'm okay, I just I don't want anyone to
- 10:15Speaker 1: see that I'm working watching this, but I've got a
- 10:17Speaker 1: little bit of time here.
- 10:18Speaker 4: It's all pre shows.
- 10:19Speaker 2: It all sounds about right for you.
- 10:23Speaker 4: Come on, moaning, here is it? And that's why I'm like,
- 10:29Speaker 4: and i'd hear like a door open behind me and stop,
- 10:31Speaker 4: what are you watching there? Yeah? Is this some gay porn?
- 10:35Speaker 3: Well that's it almost is a lot of it all
- 10:37Speaker 3: used to man back.
- 10:39Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, in theory, she's just massing herself,
- 10:42Speaker 4: right because she's hallucinating, so she's.
- 10:45Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she's just on her back just you've thought
- 10:51Speaker 3: about it, taking her fingers up.
- 10:55Speaker 4: Ship.
- 10:57Speaker 1: But that's I'm like Jesus, like, you know, what all
- 10:59Speaker 1: we've seen so far is is Scott and Chloe like
- 11:02Speaker 1: being really sensual.
- 11:03Speaker 4: It's all been it's all been love making.
- 11:06Speaker 11: Uh.
- 11:06Speaker 4: And then this is this is back to the broom
- 11:08Speaker 4: close rough ship. And then you're like, oh ship, it's James.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Okay, this is how they do it. And then again
- 11:13Speaker 1: still don't know it's an hallucination, and then they spin
- 11:16Speaker 1: how they do it.
- 11:17Speaker 4: It's not it's I owe you this. It makes love
- 11:25Speaker 4: for Chloe James. Yeah, make no mistake about.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Chloe is an absolute pillow princess. God, she's a staffish.
- 11:33Speaker 4: You have to be looking in my eyes. Yeah, we don't.
- 11:36Speaker 4: We don't have sex. We make love. You need to
- 11:40Speaker 4: eye contact the whole time. You need you can you
- 11:42Speaker 4: tell me I'm beautiful and you love me? Family, Like,
- 11:45Speaker 4: why don't you look at me doing?
- 11:49Speaker 7: And then like he's like that, he rolls off her
- 11:52Speaker 7: and just like gets up put these pans.
- 11:53Speaker 4: Yeah. Like and again I'm thinking, this is post We've
- 12:00Speaker 4: all been there, we've all been This isn't loosener. I'm like,
- 12:04Speaker 4: he's actually doing this, son of a bitch.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, oh no, no thanks, rolls up and
- 12:10Speaker 1: she's already she's already got her top on. It's like
- 12:12Speaker 1: that was I'm going to say, disappointingly quick, but anyway,
- 12:16Speaker 1: and then it's like, okay, this is there's clearly something
- 12:18Speaker 1: going on here. Just the fact that they were yelling
- 12:20Speaker 1: at each other or whatever. So she put her top
- 12:22Speaker 1: back on it, but she had a bra on too.
- 12:24Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? This
- 12:27Speaker 1: is I was directed by men, real men from Canada.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Men who's got there starting film and TV in the
- 12:36Speaker 1: eighties and nineties.
- 12:37Speaker 4: What are we doing here? Guys?
- 12:39Speaker 1: We're eventually at the top. Somewhere was the Weinstein you know,
- 12:44Speaker 1: me too? Hadn't happened here?
- 12:45Speaker 2: Come on, guys, let's go well, I mean, technically it
- 12:49Speaker 2: was happening.
- 12:50Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I didn't get announced. It's really great fun, obviously,
- 12:57Speaker 4: I'm joking.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Right, say that now that you've.
- 13:02Speaker 4: Done corrected, you got to finish this time? Oh man.
- 13:10Speaker 4: Then Chloe's in the chair in the corner. Yeah, is
- 13:13Speaker 4: there anything I can do? Oh god, yeah, just shut up,
- 13:18Speaker 4: just shut up over there, playing again, because you'll hear
- 13:21Speaker 4: a Young answer.
- 13:23Speaker 5: Is there anything I can do?
- 13:27Speaker 4: Young's over there as well.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in the corner.
- 13:30Speaker 4: That's what I was. That's what I was imagining, Like, yeah,
- 13:33Speaker 4: he were. I was imagining a few things like when
- 13:36Speaker 4: Young walked in on James and she was in her undees. Oh,
- 13:41Speaker 4: she was crying. She was crying. I was just like
- 13:45Speaker 4: I was kind of expecting her to. How can I
- 13:48Speaker 4: word this? Let me get Daniel Jackson down down, dig up,
- 13:52Speaker 4: dig up? Well, think about it.
- 13:54Speaker 11: I mean, if you know in advance that everything is
- 13:55Speaker 11: always going to go back to the way it was,
- 13:57Speaker 11: then you could do anything without having to about consequences.
- 14:04Speaker 4: What I'm asking is, who's the who's the biggest creep
- 14:07Speaker 4: on destiny? Because I just imagined, right, I imagine Young?
- 14:11Speaker 4: And why is it vulcan just imagine Young? Like it's
- 14:16Speaker 4: like Chloe goes, oh, Matthew seeing his son or Matthew's
- 14:20Speaker 4: like I keep seeing my son everywhere. And then also
- 14:23Speaker 4: Colonel Young keeps coming up and grabbing my dick and
- 14:25Speaker 4: saying it's an hallucination. Yes, yeah, Louis, it's just a hallucination. Hey,
- 14:37Speaker 4: does he have an inbuilt excuse now?
- 14:39Speaker 1: Like he's trying to patch things up with the wife
- 14:41Speaker 1: and even though this was part of their affair or
- 14:43Speaker 1: like the set that the second half of the affair,
- 14:45Speaker 1: there's still secret after his wife found out about it.
- 14:47Speaker 4: But on Chorrist Base, could he like go back?
- 14:51Speaker 1: I was having this like hallucination that we were on
- 14:53Speaker 1: like a vacation and Lake you know, God wherever in Italy,
- 14:58Speaker 1: and I was making beautiful love to you, and then
- 15:01Speaker 1: they took a tick out and.
- 15:02Speaker 4: I rooted, like I thought it was an hallucination.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Relax, Why do you think I was darning that song?
- 15:12Speaker 1: It's like Darling, Darling sex bugs, you know, like, just
- 15:17Speaker 1: doesn't he have the perfect excuse?
- 15:18Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 15:21Speaker 11: Well.
- 15:21Speaker 3: And there was also that other scientist chick where she
- 15:26Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, he was acting he was acting normal,
- 15:28Speaker 3: Like how do you know?
- 15:30Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, so
- 15:32Speaker 4: I've heard. I thought gre was hilarious in this episode. Yeah,
- 15:38Speaker 4: like he's he's paranoia was great, but also a lot
- 15:42Speaker 4: of the lines, some of the delivery was excellent, like this,
- 15:46Speaker 4: it was the most cocky nothing you need to worry about.
- 15:51Speaker 4: I like to worry. I like to worry.
- 15:54Speaker 3: I love that moment where the hallucination of Ray just
- 15:58Speaker 3: kind of like stops and turns back and smiles snarkily
- 16:01Speaker 3: at him, And I'm just like, oh, he hates her
- 16:04Speaker 3: because that's all in his brain, Like that's that's the
- 16:06Speaker 3: kind of person he thinks she is.
- 16:08Speaker 4: Like yeah, I love that. What that smile?
- 16:11Speaker 3: Love your face and even like that moment when he's
- 16:15Speaker 3: when he's like strutting towards the cargo bay or whatever.
- 16:17Speaker 3: The camera is just like on his face when he's
- 16:18Speaker 3: like talking to Young and you know, fake Young's telling
- 16:21Speaker 3: him to like turn.
- 16:21Speaker 4: His radio off. He's just like he's in his element.
- 16:24Speaker 3: That was like that was that was I feel like
- 16:26Speaker 3: that was his best day on Destiny so far, Like
- 16:29Speaker 3: he was.
- 16:32Speaker 4: Favorite day. He's actually having a lot of fun.
- 16:34Speaker 3: He didn't care about going to that gold planet. He's like,
- 16:37Speaker 3: I don't care about that.
- 16:38Speaker 1: He's going I finally get to talk to my dead
- 16:41Speaker 1: father again and have some closure agrees that they like,
- 16:44Speaker 1: I get to kill people.
- 16:45Speaker 4: I get to do your people.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some things are trying to take over the
- 16:50Speaker 1: ship again. What I'm for suing Rush and active's controlling
- 16:56Speaker 1: the ship now.
- 16:57Speaker 4: I don't know who else is working with them, so but.
- 17:00Speaker 5: We need some mobilized sergeant. I need you to listen
- 17:03Speaker 5: to me, do not do anything. I will talk to them.
- 17:08Speaker 5: What I said, I need you to stand down, do
- 17:10Speaker 5: not do anything.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Permission granted force necessary to stop them.
- 17:16Speaker 1: Got that if you want me to do sure, I
- 17:20Speaker 1: asked and answered.
- 17:21Speaker 4: When my wife asked me, orders me to do something.
- 17:24Speaker 4: I'm like, hear something else. You copy that, copy that.
- 17:29Speaker 4: What did you say? Have another beer and stay later
- 17:32Speaker 4: as I want watch another game of football. Sure, don't
- 17:39Speaker 4: come to bed yet. Okay, I'll stay up and I'll
- 17:41Speaker 4: sleep in the spare him. That's what you said, right, Yeah? Uh.
- 17:47Speaker 3: Fun fact the when they started pulling the ticks out
- 17:50Speaker 3: of people's heads and young was like squishing them on
- 17:53Speaker 3: the table with the butt of the gun.
- 17:55Speaker 4: That was caviar, those little little balls a caviar that
- 17:57Speaker 4: that was just like a budget allowed for that. I guess.
- 18:00Speaker 4: So my little egg pop. Yeah, yeah, I.
- 18:03Speaker 7: Had a tick that I'm aware of.
- 18:10Speaker 4: Don't talk about your wife.
- 18:11Speaker 7: That's the mole on my back, just a reminder.
- 18:18Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, it was on my growing and my
- 18:20Speaker 4: mom come and I'm like, I don't want to show anyone,
- 18:22Speaker 4: but I'm thirteen, and it's that awkward age. It's like
- 18:26Speaker 4: right above like where the pubic care is basically, and
- 18:31Speaker 4: then the mom's pubis. My mom goes, oh, Karen, can
- 18:35Speaker 4: you come in here, and like calls her one of
- 18:38Speaker 4: their high school friend's sister, and I'm like, beans about
- 18:42Speaker 4: the frank moment a look at this. Wow, and she's like,
- 18:47Speaker 4: that's a tiny dick. I'm like, it's a tick. Give
- 18:51Speaker 4: me a break.
- 18:52Speaker 3: Here, just just focus, only focused for a second.
- 18:55Speaker 2: It'll get bigger.
- 18:56Speaker 4: I thought she was a teacher's age. Yeah, nurse. Oh god,
- 18:59Speaker 4: this bullshit. See I had the very opposite experiences.
- 19:02Speaker 3: I'll get to the fact why there was absolutely no
- 19:04Speaker 3: chance I've ever had a tick, just because I don't
- 19:06Speaker 3: I don't go outside. But I remember, just from Yester.
- 19:10Speaker 3: I remember it was after we'd finished high school. We're
- 19:13Speaker 3: probably nineteen. I don't think we were twenty yet, but
- 19:15Speaker 3: we were at least nineteen, and it was me, two
- 19:20Speaker 3: guy mates and two girl mates and one of my mates, Dean.
- 19:24Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to out him because they aren't
- 19:26Speaker 3: talking about Dean and Dean, nineteen year old grown ass man,
- 19:31Speaker 3: didn't know if he was circumcised or not.
- 19:33Speaker 4: I was like, Patrick Stewart, what, yeah, haven't you heard that? No,
- 19:37Speaker 4: Patrick Stewart didn't know if he was circumcised. Oh my god,
- 19:41Speaker 4: that is I'm finding it ridicuous going I'm sure, yeah, right, no, probably,
- 19:49Speaker 4: I said to Dean.
- 19:51Speaker 3: I was like, all right, come with me, come up
- 19:52Speaker 3: we'll go and because we're trying to explain it to
- 19:55Speaker 3: him and he just didn't get it. And we're just like, well,
- 19:57Speaker 3: you know, there's this and there's and he just didn't.
- 19:59Speaker 4: I was like right, and he refused, and I was like, well,
- 20:01Speaker 4: you're you're a baby.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Oh you say a nineteen year old I mean a
- 20:06Speaker 1: friend of ours, guy that I work with for twenty years.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Let's see, he's about to turn fifty, that's right. And
- 20:10Speaker 1: his long standing opinion is that he doesn't know his
- 20:15Speaker 1: mum like doesn't tell him or something.
- 20:17Speaker 4: And it's like yeah, but it's like you have to know,
- 20:23Speaker 4: like you know, like you know.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Yeah, like I mean, relatively speaking, there's only two versions
- 20:28Speaker 1: of itsion.
- 20:30Speaker 3: You've either seen him on the hub or someone in
- 20:34Speaker 3: bed with you could tell you you know what I
- 20:36Speaker 3: mean that that would not like.
- 20:38Speaker 4: Your parents should tell you. Yeah, exactly. Don't answer this
- 20:41Speaker 4: question if you don't want to matter, but I have.
- 20:43Speaker 1: I don't know why you brought this up, but I
- 20:45Speaker 1: didn't get you discussed.
- 20:46Speaker 6: You had an extraordinary disagreement with your.
- 20:49Speaker 4: Wife because great.
- 20:53Speaker 6: By myself, you mean.
- 20:55Speaker 4: Yes, this story this is with interest.
- 21:02Speaker 6: Would one night as you do, we were talking about stuff.
- 21:09Speaker 6: I just had no incident, and of course, being circumcised.
- 21:11Speaker 6: I said, they were chelling.
- 21:15Speaker 4: They're married, they're married.
- 21:16Speaker 6: They were aloud and she said, she said, you're not circumcised.
- 21:24Speaker 4: I said, what do you mean?
- 21:26Speaker 6: You only know me a few all my life. I
- 21:29Speaker 6: remember my mother telling me why because it was fashionable
- 21:32Speaker 6: at the time. She said, you're not circumcised.
- 21:34Speaker 4: I said, that's ridiculous. I should know if I'm circumcised.
- 21:40Speaker 4: End of conversation.
- 21:41Speaker 6: But the next day I happened to be seeing my doctor.
- 21:47Speaker 4: Are you okay?
- 21:52Speaker 6: I was seeing my doctor for my annual physical of course,
- 21:55Speaker 6: so well he was down there. Excuse me, by the way,
- 22:05Speaker 6: my wife and own little disagreement. I am circumcised, am I?
- 22:10Speaker 6: Because she says I'm not?
- 22:13Speaker 2: And he goes, that's but Patrick, she was old.
- 22:24Speaker 4: That's probably just extra skins. It's just something old people say.
- 22:28Speaker 4: That's a while.
- 22:29Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on his he's on his fourth wife at
- 22:31Speaker 3: this point, so she hasn't she hasn't known.
- 22:33Speaker 1: Just when that story studying is what you've only known me? Anyway,
- 22:36Speaker 1: I was finished that sentence. Patrick, It's like you don't
- 22:40Speaker 1: know my dick. We've only known each other.
- 22:42Speaker 3: A couple of years, there was, there was, there was
- 22:44Speaker 3: actual last night, there was an actress that he met
- 22:47Speaker 3: on a very popular sci fi show that he was on.
- 22:50Speaker 3: Then he ended up marrying and the only reason that
- 22:51Speaker 3: character came back several times is because he was panting.
- 22:54Speaker 4: It yeah good form. Yeah, But I was like you
- 22:57Speaker 4: mentioned because at the end of this whole episode, it's like, okay,
- 23:01Speaker 4: so what do we learn. We learned everybody's fear and
- 23:05Speaker 4: Camille has a scar. Now basically we didn't see, Like
- 23:11Speaker 4: that's the whole thing about hallucination episodes, which I that's
- 23:15Speaker 4: like my least favorite sci fi trope. And then especially
- 23:18Speaker 4: when everyone has one and they're different, multiple one hallucinations,
- 23:24Speaker 4: which I just switch off because I'm okay, when do
- 23:28Speaker 4: we get to the end of when when is the
- 23:30Speaker 4: resolution happening?
- 23:31Speaker 3: And then the weird part is there's that little scene
- 23:33Speaker 3: in the middle where we go and find Corporal Barns,
- 23:36Speaker 3: who went on the mission with everybody else. He's like,
- 23:37Speaker 3: She's like, no, I'm fine, I'm good there the first
- 23:40Speaker 3: time we see her, yes, because the last time we
- 23:42Speaker 3: saw that actress, she was one of Weir's replicators that
- 23:47Speaker 3: wanted to that's ass end in Ghost in the Machine,
- 23:51Speaker 3: it's that actress. I just don't know what that added like,
- 23:56Speaker 3: and especially that actress, like why get her back for
- 23:59Speaker 3: that one line and basically to go, yeah, no, I'm
- 24:01Speaker 3: fine because again what they thought it was ticks.
- 24:05Speaker 2: They were right, they checked her. She's like, no, I'm fine.
- 24:09Speaker 4: Thanks your tom, thanks for you.
- 24:10Speaker 3: And then we find out that a couple of other
- 24:12Speaker 3: people had multiple ticks on them, Like I.
- 24:14Speaker 4: Think it's because, like I think they feel like they
- 24:17Speaker 4: need to plant certain actors because they're going to have
- 24:19Speaker 4: them in the future. For they did that with the
- 24:22Speaker 4: guy from Faith like the yeah, yeah, they had him
- 24:26Speaker 4: just random one line. Yeah, that's true.
- 24:28Speaker 3: Maybe she'll come back for something when Rush was trapped
- 24:31Speaker 3: on that planet. Yeah, and then that's not a bad point.
- 24:34Speaker 4: I think that's what they're trying to do because yeah,
- 24:36Speaker 4: I've never seen her, She's not hasn't been in the background. Yeah,
- 24:39Speaker 4: I just remember her. She's been here the whole time.
- 24:42Speaker 4: I was watching Atlanta the other day, watched The Gift before,
- 24:45Speaker 4: like in season one, and they just have a psychia
- 24:50Speaker 4: psychiatrist rock up psychologists. Ye oh yeah that's right. Yeah,
- 24:57Speaker 4: I've seen you around. It's like, what the first it
- 25:01Speaker 4: was a year episode? A good question.
- 25:07Speaker 2: I don't have my other books.
- 25:08Speaker 1: I can't look, but even some of the like the
- 25:11Speaker 1: fears rush, drowning or getting trapped.
- 25:16Speaker 3: Now, I think it was more about his abduction from
- 25:18Speaker 3: the from the sixty five guys.
- 25:20Speaker 1: That was his leading Yeah, because that actually had a
- 25:23Speaker 1: point to it. Yeah, because then he started claustrophobia. It's
- 25:27Speaker 1: like cool, like why we why are we using screen
- 25:31Speaker 1: time on this?
- 25:32Speaker 4: You know?
- 25:32Speaker 3: Yeah, because the first couple, I was like, like, because
- 25:35Speaker 3: I get claustrophobic, But I was like, oh, may grow up,
- 25:37Speaker 3: Like none of these things would even make me claustrophobic.
- 25:40Speaker 3: But then when like he's fully like in the coffin, like, oh, okay,
- 25:43Speaker 3: no doubt I would that.
- 25:44Speaker 4: I would be I would be petrified. I was annoyed
- 25:46Speaker 4: to that because Greer was had claustrophobia last week or
- 25:49Speaker 4: whenever that was Yeah, I like, wouldn't he have claustrophobia? Yeah?
- 25:55Speaker 4: I don't know. The toll tic thing was maybe it
- 25:57Speaker 4: was their biggest fear. Stargatelna. You're gonna love this story
- 26:01Speaker 4: by Robert C. Cooper and Martin Giro. There you go.
- 26:06Speaker 4: That was boring to that episode You have DNA? What
- 26:11Speaker 4: are you saying? We're saying grandmother?
- 26:15Speaker 3: Yeah, like is that what we're saying? Like what we
- 26:17Speaker 3: never actually you know, followed that thought through?
- 26:21Speaker 4: Was it was?
- 26:21Speaker 3: It was it Wraith experimenting on Taylor and like how
- 26:25Speaker 3: did they put their DNA you know what I mean.
- 26:27Speaker 4: On her ancestors? Apparent DNA on your face? Grandmother was
- 26:35Speaker 4: al deer.
- 26:38Speaker 3: You're you're your grandmother was a hip hop and Grenny
- 26:41Speaker 3: got down with with Todd.
- 26:46Speaker 10: Lord.
- 26:47Speaker 4: I did like though that like.
- 26:50Speaker 3: Scott volunteered the information, like he was like Jason, he
- 26:53Speaker 3: was like, is that is that my kid?
- 26:55Speaker 2: What's going on?
- 26:56Speaker 3: And then once he fully was like touched his son's
- 26:58Speaker 3: head and was talking to him. And then as soon
- 27:00Speaker 3: as he walked in when like young then called him
- 27:02Speaker 3: to the infirmary, he walked in, asked question and he's like, oh,
- 27:05Speaker 3: I've been seeing hallucinations too, And I'm like, thank god,
- 27:08Speaker 3: because that's the worst someone with.
- 27:10Speaker 2: A brain was.
- 27:11Speaker 3: We would be like, oh, I'm not going to say
- 27:12Speaker 3: anything because otherwise, you know, he was just like me too,
- 27:16Speaker 3: and that was helped put the puzzle together.
- 27:18Speaker 1: But I couldn't remember who he had told about the
- 27:20Speaker 1: fact that he had a son, Like I assume when
- 27:23Speaker 1: he saw him tell like a couple of people, it's
- 27:25Speaker 1: pretty tight knit.
- 27:26Speaker 3: I feel like someone like put it all out, and
- 27:29Speaker 3: it might have been the first time that Lieutenant James
- 27:31Speaker 3: had heard about it.
- 27:32Speaker 1: When he said that, He's like, I've been seeing my
- 27:33Speaker 1: son and then it cuts to her and I was
- 27:35Speaker 1: waiting for her what.
- 27:38Speaker 4: I'm glad I killed you.
- 27:41Speaker 3: In the audio commentary though, during the sex scene at
- 27:44Speaker 3: the start, he was because by now they started to
- 27:46Speaker 3: get like while they were feeling, they're starting to get
- 27:48Speaker 3: feedback on the show and stuff like that. When they
- 27:50Speaker 3: were recording for the comment the commentary for this episode,
- 27:53Speaker 3: it was a week before they were coming back for
- 27:54Speaker 3: season two, so you see all the season one had
- 27:56Speaker 3: been out and everything, and yeah, there'd been the conversations
- 27:59Speaker 3: about how the the fandom in general was like Scott's
- 28:02Speaker 3: a whore and sex addict.
- 28:05Speaker 4: They were saying, oh, Scot's a sex addict, and.
- 28:06Speaker 3: He's like, he goes, if having sex with three different
- 28:09Speaker 3: people makes you a sex addict, A lot of my
- 28:11Speaker 3: friends are sex addicts, And I was like, it's a
- 28:14Speaker 3: little over over simplification of it.
- 28:16Speaker 1: But you know that's that's why James is upset. She's like,
- 28:20Speaker 1: you have a son. She's like, wow, so you coming,
- 28:22Speaker 1: everyone accept so with me you pull out? Okay, all right, fine,
- 28:27Speaker 1: so you don't really love me?
- 28:28Speaker 4: Okay.
- 28:29Speaker 3: The the final scene where like we get to the
- 28:33Speaker 3: new thing, the puddle opens up, and Young's just like,
- 28:37Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna start with just business as usual,
- 28:39Speaker 3: just keep going. That puddle, that practical puddle looked rough.
- 28:43Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys noticed that, but you
- 28:44Speaker 3: can clearly tell that it was like the the big
- 28:48Speaker 3: bed sheet behind the behind the gate with just like
- 28:51Speaker 3: the projection on it.
- 28:52Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like.
- 28:53Speaker 3: All c go puddle it normally they can get away
- 28:57Speaker 3: with it.
- 28:57Speaker 4: But maybe it's just because Destiny is lit so dark?
- 29:01Speaker 4: Was that when the blue Aliens come through?
- 29:05Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is the final scene where once
- 29:07Speaker 3: everything's been resolved, and then yeah, Rush walks and and
- 29:11Speaker 3: Young's sorry, Russias like, so we're going to keep sending
- 29:14Speaker 3: people and Rush is like, man as well, that's a
- 29:16Speaker 3: cool shot where it comes out of FTL. That looks
- 29:19Speaker 3: so rough to me? Yeah, I yeah, yeah, yeah to
- 29:24Speaker 3: me it just looks like the like the rear projection
- 29:26Speaker 3: screen that they put up, which is great money saver,
- 29:30Speaker 3: but yeah, just that one little shot. I was just like,
- 29:33Speaker 3: but yeah, it could just could have just been the lighting.
- 29:35Speaker 4: I feel like this episode lacked consequences or any meaning
- 29:40Speaker 4: at all because some like I feel like someone should
- 29:42Speaker 4: have died or we should have had at least seen
- 29:45Speaker 4: the final stage of what the tic the Ticks life
- 29:48Speaker 4: cycle is. Yeah, yeah, that would have been interesting. Interesting.
- 29:53Speaker 3: There was that one throwaway line was like, oh, it
- 29:55Speaker 3: feeds off whatever neurochemical it was. Yeah, so it's like
- 30:01Speaker 3: it obviously induces fear to increase that like whatever chemical
- 30:07Speaker 3: we produced when we're scared or whatever. Which wasn't that
- 30:11Speaker 3: the same as that crystal thing the doppelganger from Atlantis,
- 30:14Speaker 3: Remember the crystals on the tree they got into got
- 30:18Speaker 3: into John when he was like on the on the
- 30:21Speaker 3: rowboat in the ocean with the big flood of sallus
- 30:24Speaker 3: that came and ate them or whatever. That thing I'm
- 30:27Speaker 3: pretty sure was like feeding on fear and stuff like
- 30:29Speaker 3: that as well.
- 30:30Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, was that in season four or five? Yeah?
- 30:34Speaker 2: I think season four.
- 30:35Speaker 4: Yeah, early season four, Yeah, Yeah.
- 30:37Speaker 5: The toxins. Maybe they target the olympic system.
- 30:40Speaker 8: This theory of the brain is responsible for motion, so
- 30:43Speaker 8: fear anger, remorse, Matt Tokelto for his son claustrophobia.
- 30:50Speaker 5: My dad, let me guess issue with snakes and you.
- 30:56Speaker 4: Carnies? Huh circuit spoke new Man's you know, smell like cabbage.
- 31:06Speaker 1: This podcast might just become like a living sort of
- 31:08Speaker 1: diary week to week with updates and Austin Pouse for two.
- 31:12Speaker 1: By the way, because every time we come into record,
- 31:14Speaker 1: Mike miss teased something.
- 31:16Speaker 3: Else, but I bring up Star Trek at too many
- 31:18Speaker 3: times my microphone gets turned off.
- 31:20Speaker 4: Yes, what does he get about? Way?
- 31:30Speaker 12: Baby very, I'm a lima lima lemma, he says, lemma,
- 31:40Speaker 12: A lenna, I'm a LEMNAA that sounds a bit sexual,
- 31:45Speaker 12: A lemma.
- 31:45Speaker 10: Would you like a lemma?
- 31:50Speaker 2: Margaret?
- 31:50Speaker 12: Thatcher naked on a cold day? Margaret, that's your naked
- 31:55Speaker 12: on a colde day.
- 32:00Speaker 4: That this was in the script.
- 32:06Speaker 12: I'm uncomfortable, Absolutely fair, I'm uncomfortable.
- 32:14Speaker 4: So Rush stabbed Camille and she's got she was bleeding?
- 32:19Speaker 4: Did you did you stab her? I think so? She
- 32:22Speaker 4: was bleeding a lot. Yeah, that's because Gris shot it.
- 32:26Speaker 4: I thought. I thought it was after Rush rushed her.
- 32:29Speaker 4: I thought he hit her with a part because he
- 32:30Speaker 4: hit I thought stabbed. He was like, you're saying, yeah,
- 32:35Speaker 4: it's stories. I thought, yeah.
- 32:37Speaker 3: I thought Gria like fired a couple of rounds and
- 32:39Speaker 3: they kind of ricocheted and hit her in the shoulder
- 32:41Speaker 3: or whatever she was.
- 32:45Speaker 4: Yeah, because I thought.
- 32:46Speaker 3: Gria shot Ray and then Rush saved Ray by hitting Gria.
- 32:52Speaker 3: But then he turned around and hit Ray as well.
- 32:54Speaker 3: Like he was he was going everybody, because at least
- 32:57Speaker 3: the way like being now plated, it seemed like she
- 32:59Speaker 3: was blaming a Grea for her bleeding out and.
- 33:01Speaker 1: If oh, yeah, no it was Rush. It was that
- 33:07Speaker 1: thirty five or does he just does he just whack
- 33:11Speaker 1: it here? That's wow?
- 33:15Speaker 2: What do you would you Stabbo with?
- 33:19Speaker 4: The cracks him? I shut the door, I shut the okay,
- 33:26Speaker 4: great shoots the door. It's like fucking yeah, ship, we
- 33:31Speaker 4: can't just fix that, all right?
- 33:33Speaker 3: Okay, So so didn't would he Stabbo with because he's.
- 33:38Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just a sharp utensil. But then
- 33:41Speaker 4: he cracked? Yeah, it was like, why did he then
- 33:44Speaker 4: Grea with the pipeot?
- 33:45Speaker 2: What happened? Maybe he lost it when he just to me,
- 33:47Speaker 2: it looks like a punch.
- 33:48Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I sat there for the rest
- 33:50Speaker 1: of the episode thinking Grea done it because he was
- 33:52Speaker 1: kind of in control of the situation. Because then at
- 33:55Speaker 1: the end where she's in the infirmary, she's like, I'll
- 33:57Speaker 1: be fine, a little bit of a scar, okay. And
- 33:59Speaker 1: then when the needle drop is happening, we got a
- 34:02Speaker 1: little montage through the ship and Camille walks past Sling,
- 34:07Speaker 1: walks past Grea, and he's looking at her, and she's
- 34:09Speaker 1: just like, fuck you, okay, he put you through some ship.
- 34:14Speaker 1: It's hallucinating, like it's nobody's even if he's been a
- 34:17Speaker 1: dick and he doesn't like you, what happened wasn't his fault.
- 34:20Speaker 4: Also, he's not the one that staked your mate. He's
- 34:24Speaker 4: not the one that did the mutiny either.
- 34:25Speaker 1: To make comparis, yeah, yeah, exactly, it was that guy
- 34:28Speaker 1: that stabbed Like, come on now, we're all friends here.
- 34:31Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, I might be mental, bit you did
- 34:34Speaker 3: you just you did this to yourself?
- 34:36Speaker 4: As this because's dad comes in and goes do it.
- 34:40Speaker 4: I think he was about to shoot Camille. And then
- 34:43Speaker 4: that's when Rush.
- 34:44Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I just remember there being like a greer
- 34:48Speaker 3: firing two shots that were kind of near Camille. When
- 34:52Speaker 3: he fired at the at the door, at the door
- 34:54Speaker 3: or whatever, I thought, she must have just copped a straight.
- 34:57Speaker 4: Yeah, so Rush stabbed, she went down. He's shut the door.
- 35:00Speaker 3: That's a rough day for Camille because she she she
- 35:04Speaker 3: wasn't ticked up right, So she is purely just a
- 35:06Speaker 3: victim of whatever's.
- 35:07Speaker 4: Going on in front of her. Yeah, she was fine.
- 35:09Speaker 4: It was a normal which is a shame because I
- 35:11Speaker 4: was just like Breeze, just accusing her of doing She's like,
- 35:14Speaker 4: I didn't do anything. Follow Again, communication is necessary in
- 35:20Speaker 4: these situations. Get on the radio or they can even
- 35:22Speaker 4: they do a whole ship thing. Yeah, hi, guys, we've
- 35:25Speaker 4: got alien ticks on board. Check yourselves, check each other.
- 35:28Speaker 4: If you're loosen eating, come to the yeah, Johanna buddy system.
- 35:33Speaker 1: If you make acting weird, bring them in.
- 35:35Speaker 4: You know, if you if you're scared for no reason
- 35:38Speaker 4: or whatever, you've seen weird people on the ship, come
- 35:41Speaker 4: and come to the infirmary. I was waiting for Sharon
- 35:43Speaker 4: to rock up.
- 35:44Speaker 1: It's kind of a shame that she Yeah, you know,
- 35:46Speaker 1: because surely that's got to be her fear is something
- 35:48Speaker 1: that happened with Sharon.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Imagine if her grace.
- 35:52Speaker 3: She wakes up and she's back in Amanda Perry's body
- 35:54Speaker 3: and Sharon's over the top of her, like smothering her
- 35:56Speaker 3: with a pillow or something.
- 36:00Speaker 4: A lot going on there. Yeah, used all my leave
- 36:03Speaker 4: for this. Oh you wonder, I wonder what the girl
- 36:08Speaker 4: is there? I wonder if you know Camille is the
- 36:10Speaker 4: head of HR.
- 36:11Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, do you get like, does she use
- 36:14Speaker 3: up a year's worth of stone leave to have to
- 36:16Speaker 3: spend three weeks in Amanda Perry's body or does she
- 36:20Speaker 3: get special dispensation because it was they did do for that? Yeah,
- 36:24Speaker 3: that would be great. And shears sit herself down and
- 36:28Speaker 3: have that conversation with her because she's the head of HR,
- 36:30Speaker 3: and be like, I'm so sorry, Camille, you don't have
- 36:33Speaker 3: any more stone days left.
- 36:36Speaker 1: I understand that this must be very difficult to hear.
- 36:39Speaker 1: We do understand, Oh no, do not do a Camille did.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Though it's not done by date, it's done by galaxy.
- 36:45Speaker 1: So she's like, Okay, well, I used up all my
- 36:47Speaker 1: all my stone days for this galaxy.
- 36:48Speaker 2: But now we're in a fresh galaxy would from scratch.
- 36:51Speaker 1: Open this other galaxy. Every day there is actually worth
- 36:54Speaker 1: like a minute on Earth. So I've barely used up anytime,
- 36:56Speaker 1: to be fair, I've used like an hour.
- 36:59Speaker 4: It's fine.
- 37:00Speaker 1: The Chloe thing was was, you know, the obviously the
- 37:02Speaker 1: nicer version of all but like gree is that they're
- 37:04Speaker 1: trying to shoot everybody, Whereas Chloe was like, I'm accepting
- 37:07Speaker 1: that this isn't real, but I need this, yeah, And
- 37:10Speaker 1: she's like, can't you just leave it? It's not killing me, Like,
- 37:12Speaker 1: I'm happy to have this, and you know, all all love,
- 37:16Speaker 1: just Scott and everyone else going. You don't know what
- 37:18Speaker 1: could happen from this. This could be in you long
- 37:20Speaker 1: enough to kill you. Yeah, you know, it may change
- 37:22Speaker 1: and make you do or see other things, and you
- 37:25Speaker 1: could become a danger to yourself for others.
- 37:26Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.
- 37:27Speaker 1: But just the idea of no, she just saw old
- 37:30Speaker 1: man and it wasn't so much scared about what he
- 37:33Speaker 1: could do. It was just the idea of being scared
- 37:35Speaker 1: of having still having lost him, yeah, and being alone
- 37:38Speaker 1: without him and all that.
- 37:39Speaker 3: I think that was the one that I most tried
- 37:41Speaker 3: to put myself into having to meet my mum a
- 37:42Speaker 3: few years ago. I was like, okay, because obviously Scott
- 37:46Speaker 3: was able to touch his son, like he was able
- 37:48Speaker 3: to like he's like you feel real, but he didn't
- 37:51Speaker 3: know about the ticks yet. Like Chloe went in from
- 37:54Speaker 3: the start knowing that it was the tick. So it's like, yeah,
- 37:57Speaker 3: that's it's not her dad, it's just her memory. It's
- 38:00Speaker 3: just a visualization of the memory of her dad. So
- 38:03Speaker 3: it's like it's only what she knows in her head,
- 38:06Speaker 3: but which is a great picture.
- 38:08Speaker 1: She's painting like everything he said or asked, And I'm like, well,
- 38:11Speaker 1: that's what she remembers of him, like when she's like,
- 38:13Speaker 1: oh my god, dad, And the first thing he said
- 38:16Speaker 1: was how's she said, I've seen marm or he's like
- 38:18Speaker 1: asial mother or whatever it was, And I'm like, oh
- 38:20Speaker 1: good that the first thing she thought that he would
- 38:22Speaker 1: do would be to ask about the mother. Like that
- 38:24Speaker 1: says a lot about what she thought of that guy.
- 38:26Speaker 3: And then even when he when they're about to pull
- 38:29Speaker 3: the tick out, like he leans in and gives her
- 38:31Speaker 3: a kiss on the forehead or something like that and
- 38:32Speaker 3: says goodbye. Yeah, So it's like, yeah, so that was
- 38:42Speaker 3: really a really interesting approach, like, yeah, obviously you know
- 38:45Speaker 3: you can't. You can't apply any logic to what Chloe
- 38:48Speaker 3: was feeling. Then when you're in your feeling about that
- 38:50Speaker 3: kind of stuff, logic goes out the window. So I was,
- 38:51Speaker 3: I think I was trying to think rationally about it,
- 38:53Speaker 3: and I'm just so you can't. You can't really do that.
- 38:55Speaker 3: But yeah, I tried to put myself in that situation.
- 38:57Speaker 3: Wonder if I'd just be like, no, take it out,
- 39:02Speaker 3: it's too it would be too much. But obviously, you know, everybody,
- 39:05Speaker 3: there's no wrong or right way to grieve. Everybody a
- 39:07Speaker 3: grieved differently. And if that helped Chloe in some way,
- 39:11Speaker 3: I guess, you know, in her situation, she lost her
- 39:13Speaker 3: dad very very quickly, Yeah, like just like unexpected. And
- 39:16Speaker 3: then presumably his body is still on the ship somewhere.
- 39:20Speaker 4: I think didn't she say to him that we had
- 39:22Speaker 4: a not when it's hard to you might miss it,
- 39:25Speaker 4: but she said that we had a funeral fear or
- 39:27Speaker 4: a service.
- 39:28Speaker 3: Yeah, but then what do they do with the body.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Did they jettison into space or did they like, what
- 39:33Speaker 3: did they do with the body?
- 39:34Speaker 4: I think she said something about a planet oh, oh,
- 39:39Speaker 4: that's not a bad idea, yeah, says yes.
- 39:43Speaker 3: The show never explicitly depicts on screen what is eventually
- 39:46Speaker 3: done with his remains, though fan consensus and background logistics
- 39:49Speaker 3: suggests the crew eventually repaired the shuttle and laid him
- 39:51Speaker 3: to rest, or gave him a space burial off camera.
- 39:54Speaker 3: Because yeah, the shuttle that he died in, which I
- 39:57Speaker 3: just realized by listening really listening to that bit, Chloe
- 40:01Speaker 3: encounters him in the same spot he died well, in
- 40:04Speaker 3: a different shuttle, but he appears in the cockpit of
- 40:06Speaker 3: the shuttle he died in the other shuttle because the
- 40:09Speaker 3: shuttle that he died in was the one that we
- 40:10Speaker 3: left on the Faith planet.
- 40:12Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, I don't know why the last like before
- 40:16Speaker 4: before this rewatch, I watched it prior, and then I
- 40:19Speaker 4: thought that she was telling him that in this episode.
- 40:23Speaker 2: So maybe it was in a keno.
- 40:24Speaker 4: Maybe I was hallucinating, Maybe it was actually because I
- 40:28Speaker 4: don't watch the kenos.
- 40:29Speaker 3: I like the idea of him being buried on the
- 40:31Speaker 3: Faith planet. That's a nice idea.
- 40:34Speaker 2: They never showed on screen.
- 40:35Speaker 3: Armstrong's body was at some point laid to rest the
- 40:37Speaker 3: shuttle which she died was partially repaired and sent to
- 40:39Speaker 3: the planet Eiden's used by the expedition in Darkness. The
- 40:45Speaker 3: topic of discussion was what to do with his body. However,
- 40:49Speaker 3: with the ancient shuttle temporary sealed off, a decision was
- 40:52Speaker 3: not immediately reached, although when the shuttle was repaired, they
- 40:55Speaker 3: were presumably able to recover his body. There, Holy, we
- 40:58Speaker 3: googled stuff intensively and it put a handbrake on the
- 41:01Speaker 3: entire thing.
- 41:02Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah, But I agree with what you were saying before,
- 41:07Speaker 4: the sentiment that that is the strongest part of the
- 41:12Speaker 4: episode where Chloe sees her father, Like, if you put herself,
- 41:15Speaker 4: if you put yourself in her shoes, it's like a
- 41:17Speaker 4: dream that she doesn't want to wake up from. Yeah,
- 41:19Speaker 4: And even from the other perspective for me is like
- 41:24Speaker 4: that's really heartbreaking from a father's point of view too,
- 41:27Speaker 4: Like obviously he did the right thing, sacrificed himself, but
- 41:31Speaker 4: no longer to be able to say whatever he wanted
- 41:34Speaker 4: to say. That kind of really sucks yea for her.
- 41:37Speaker 4: So I think it actually helps her character in a way. Yeah,
- 41:41Speaker 4: she definitely sold it being able to say goodbye, you know,
- 41:44Speaker 4: because she didn't, she didn't have she didn't get to
- 41:46Speaker 4: say goodbye last time.
- 41:48Speaker 3: That's why, because she like found out about it over
- 41:50Speaker 3: the radio and she was running and then and then missed.
- 41:53Speaker 3: I think he was dead by the time she got
- 41:55Speaker 3: there or something like that. He wasn't even like running
- 41:57Speaker 3: out of air. I think he was already dead.
- 41:58Speaker 4: But I think he was kind of saying I love
- 42:00Speaker 4: you and yeah, and then she was crying and yeah.
- 42:04Speaker 4: I think elise is her name, the actress's name.
- 42:06Speaker 2: She sold it.
- 42:07Speaker 3: Like some of those close ups on her face were
- 42:08Speaker 3: a raised they said in the auto commentary, the scene
- 42:11Speaker 3: where she's getting the tick pulled out. Everyone else felt
- 42:14Speaker 3: really bad because, like all the other actors are like
- 42:16Speaker 3: TJ and Young and Matt and Christopher Comick. They were
- 42:20Speaker 3: all like very in a very jokey, laughing kind of
- 42:22Speaker 3: mood in between takes, while poor Elisea is trying to like, no, like,
- 42:27Speaker 3: we felt really bad because we were all.
- 42:28Speaker 2: Laughing and happy. And then she had they call action.
- 42:30Speaker 3: She'd have to just like absolutely emotionally destroy herself and
- 42:35Speaker 3: just have these tears rolling down her face.
- 42:39Speaker 4: Tell your mother there her, I.
- 42:41Speaker 10: Miss her, I love you, daddy, I love.
- 42:48Speaker 4: You too, sweet, You're living our dream remember that. Oh
- 42:54Speaker 4: that's nice.
- 43:01Speaker 3: Meanwhile, your guy's worst fierce station will be me talking
- 43:04Speaker 3: in that voice just forever.
- 43:08Speaker 4: That's quite funny. Like, no, it'll get old quick, get
- 43:13Speaker 4: old quick. I love you, daddy. I know i'd brought
- 43:18Speaker 4: you it works. I love you day.
- 43:23Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard that from my beautiful five year old today.
- 43:27Speaker 4: And now you're kind of ruining that. Yeah you're good,
- 43:29Speaker 4: Yeah dad, I love you Daddy.
- 43:31Speaker 7: That shit maybe melt about three hours ago. Now that
- 43:38Speaker 7: was a tough one.
- 43:39Speaker 4: That's tough one because even they could have written it
- 43:42Speaker 4: love you dad because she's older. Yeah, oh yeah, I
- 43:46Speaker 4: feel like that is a bit of a gut punch.
- 43:48Speaker 1: You see a few movies and stuff where you see
- 43:49Speaker 1: a grown woman refer to her father as daddy and
- 43:52Speaker 1: in a really sincere way like that, It's like, oh, ship, yeah,
- 43:56Speaker 1: you really like to take it. Takes them back because
- 43:57Speaker 1: you never see a grown man refer to their mother
- 43:59Speaker 1: as ummy or anything like in a really sincere moment.
- 44:02Speaker 1: So to see a little girl do that, or rather
- 44:05Speaker 1: a grown woman, yeah, almost be mentally put back into
- 44:08Speaker 1: being a little girl.
- 44:10Speaker 4: It's like there's an eminem sung on his last album
- 44:13Speaker 4: and it's called temporary and it's basically a letter to
- 44:16Speaker 4: his daughter basically for when he's dead. Try not to
- 44:22Speaker 4: cry during that.
- 44:23Speaker 2: You mean, I mean he didn't just leave. I think
- 44:26Speaker 2: my dad's going craze as.
- 44:29Speaker 3: The one you know for okay, fair enough, I mean,
- 44:31Speaker 3: choice is done, a few choices, but no. I loved
- 44:34Speaker 3: Also then the line that Senator Armstrong gave or he's like,
- 44:38Speaker 3: don't forget you're living our dream like, because that's her
- 44:43Speaker 3: putting that into her dad telling her that, you know
- 44:45Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, so that's that's gotta be comforting
- 44:47Speaker 3: in a way.
- 44:47Speaker 4: Definitely said all the right things. Yeah, yeah, that's the
- 44:52Speaker 4: only way.
- 44:52Speaker 3: That's the only way man can say the right thing
- 44:54Speaker 3: is for the woman to give him the.
- 44:56Speaker 4: Words to say back exactly. Yeah, but in this they
- 44:59Speaker 4: never do.
- 45:03Speaker 3: Yeah, she just had to. She just had to think it.
- 45:05Speaker 3: Any knew to say. She didn't have to tell him
- 45:07Speaker 3: what to say. I'm sure if it hung around for
- 45:08Speaker 3: a while, she would have been like, tell me something.
- 45:11Speaker 3: I don't know, Dad, everything I want to hear.
- 45:15Speaker 4: I forget where I heard it.
- 45:16Speaker 1: But it's it's like whether it's a comedian's line or something,
- 45:19Speaker 1: and they're like a you know, a man marries the
- 45:21Speaker 1: woman that he wants to be with. A woman marries
- 45:24Speaker 1: the man hoping to make him someone that she wants
- 45:27Speaker 1: to be married to.
- 45:28Speaker 4: Okay, good framework. I think the ultimate I reckon, the
- 45:32Speaker 4: ultimate woman's fantasy is the Beauty and the Beast fantasy,
- 45:39Speaker 4: like no one else containing but me.
- 45:42Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you want you want you want the
- 45:45Speaker 3: beast in the sheets, but you want the prints in
- 45:47Speaker 3: the streets.
- 45:48Speaker 4: You want the beast to protect you and and dick
- 45:51Speaker 4: you down, dick you down.
- 45:53Speaker 7: But also, didn't hear that the beast you didn't He's
- 45:59Speaker 7: gonna dick down.
- 46:00Speaker 2: Mate.
- 46:01Speaker 4: Don't believe me as the dishes, answer me this, answer
- 46:04Speaker 4: me this. What's beast's name?
- 46:06Speaker 3: Then we know that there's Prince Eric, and we know
- 46:08Speaker 3: that all the other princes from Prince Charming and all
- 46:11Speaker 3: those kind of things. Tell me the prince's name in
- 46:13Speaker 3: Beauty and the Beast exactly?
- 46:15Speaker 2: Do you know why?
- 46:16Speaker 3: Because everybody agrees he was hotter as the beast. Once
- 46:20Speaker 3: he gets turned into Ken, he's boring as all hell.
- 46:25Speaker 4: Oh fuck, I'm jealous. Oh attention. Five questions for you, Mitch,
- 46:39Speaker 4: the newbie of the show, Now and page. Gimmes. I
- 46:46Speaker 4: watched it over the last twelve hours. These are all
- 46:49Speaker 4: absolute gimme. Of course, I'm going to remember everything and
- 46:53Speaker 4: I'm just going to make sure we have the right one.
- 46:55Speaker 4: So these are basically throughout from the season previous, not specific.
- 47:03Speaker 4: It's not just this episode. I've got more excuses and
- 47:08Speaker 4: actually none of them are about this episode.
- 47:09Speaker 3: Just excellent, generally, just excellent. Feel free to submit questions, guys. Absolutely,
- 47:16Speaker 3: social media on the socials Patreon.
- 47:20Speaker 4: I'm trying to use chat ChiPT still and it sucks. Yeah,
- 47:25Speaker 4: of course, so bad.
- 47:27Speaker 3: People that that person was telling that story. It was
- 47:31Speaker 3: not It was a TikTok and he was like, chatch,
- 47:35Speaker 3: my can't needs washing. The car washes at the end
- 47:39Speaker 3: of my street. Should I drive or walk?
- 47:41Speaker 4: And it's like, well, it is a beautiful day and
- 47:42Speaker 4: it's a great way to get exercise. Maybe you should
- 47:44Speaker 4: walk to you can't wash. Just that positive affirmation. Yeah, yeah, cool,
- 47:49Speaker 4: keep a chill, keep a positive. There's this one guy
- 47:52Speaker 4: follow on I think he's on TikTok, but I follow
- 47:55Speaker 4: him on YouTube and he all he does is talk
- 47:57Speaker 4: to AI and beencome so popular because he's so dry. Oh,
- 48:03Speaker 4: I think I've seen some of those. Yeah, he's so good.
- 48:06Speaker 2: That might have even been the car wash guy.
- 48:08Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it could have been. And so thirty
- 48:11Speaker 4: seconds on the clock for Mitch five questions. Your time
- 48:16Speaker 4: starts at the end of the first question in the episode,
- 48:22Speaker 4: they're all gimmes. By the way, I'd be surprised if
- 48:24Speaker 4: you don't get him amos.
- 48:25Speaker 3: Yeah, if Brendan's figers weren't busy, I get him to
- 48:29Speaker 3: give me the high pitch voice.
- 48:30Speaker 4: Like a pibies. In the episode Water, the crew travels
- 48:36Speaker 4: to a frozen planet in search of fresh water. What
- 48:40Speaker 4: nickname does Eli give the icy world? Correct in Faith?
- 48:46Speaker 4: What mysterious structure do the crew discover on a seemingly
- 48:49Speaker 4: perfect planet obelis? Is that what they call correct in space?
- 48:53Speaker 4: What one word message do the Blue Aliens send to
- 48:56Speaker 4: the crew in English? I don't know. Pass. What is
- 49:03Speaker 4: the name of Destiny's doctor transport surrender? Surrender? Was it? Sorry?
- 49:07Speaker 4: What is the name of the doctor transport ships? No idea? Injustice?
- 49:12Speaker 4: Which main character does Colonel Young leave behind on a
- 49:16Speaker 4: barren planet?
- 49:17Speaker 11: Oh?
- 49:18Speaker 4: Doctor, that's right, but at the time was up unfortunately?
- 49:21Speaker 4: Sorry that was so close. What did you get you
- 49:24Speaker 4: got Hofs surrender. What is the name of Destiny's doct
- 49:31Speaker 4: transport ships shuttle? That was as an absolutely we can
- 49:39Speaker 4: blame the wording on that one. Well, blame chat At
- 49:43Speaker 4: the end of Justice, which main character gets stuck on
- 49:45Speaker 4: a barren planet, doctor Nicholas Rush. Anyway, that's a shame. Mitch.
- 49:51Speaker 4: I was trying to find a Daniel Jackson yelling at
- 49:54Speaker 4: Mitchell because oh no, it's I can find it. Please
- 49:58Speaker 4: can send that to me.
- 50:00Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I got one when you get But I
- 50:05Speaker 11: do have a bunch of those clips though, of of
- 50:07Speaker 11: like Taylor being like Mitch, Mitch, Mitch, Mitch, Mitch, Yeah,
- 50:10Speaker 11: I thinking about that.
- 50:11Speaker 3: But yeah, we need we need, we need to say it, Daniel,
- 50:14Speaker 3: and we can we can super cut it.
- 50:16Speaker 4: Put on Avalon part one and two, just because I'm like,
- 50:19Speaker 4: when they're getting when Tilk and Mitchell are getting crushed
- 50:22Speaker 4: in that in the ceiling that's coming, but Daniel is
- 50:27Speaker 4: just only cares about Tilk.
- 50:28Speaker 2: I feel like.
- 50:31Speaker 4: You didn't give it.
- 50:33Speaker 3: Might be in the episodes with the space corn when
- 50:35Speaker 3: they're when they're posing his bounty and stuff like that.
- 50:38Speaker 3: American I reckon, he says Mitchell in that because remember
- 50:42Speaker 3: because cam Cam goes in get himself get taken by
- 50:45Speaker 3: taking hostage and the other three are up on the
- 50:49Speaker 3: up on the little grassy knol watching and stuff like that.
- 50:51Speaker 4: So annoying because when you know they're about to say,
- 50:54Speaker 4: like there's a potential place where he could yell at Mitchell,
- 50:57Speaker 4: but he says Cam yeah or Colonel ruining it? Good stuff? Guys.
- 51:05Speaker 1: Sweet, that's episode three hundred and twenty seven.
- 51:08Speaker 4: What do we talking next? Subversion and Version?
- 51:11Speaker 1: Right, so this is third last, third last episode coming
- 51:15Speaker 1: up of the.
- 51:16Speaker 3: Season Version and then the two part finally, god damn,
- 51:19Speaker 3: halfway through bitch Wow.
- 51:21Speaker 2: Halfway through your universe journey already.
- 51:23Speaker 4: So yeah, because they didn't go off world since they
- 51:28Speaker 4: got to the new galaxy. They did because they did, Yeah,
- 51:32Speaker 4: because the tics no, but I'm like, we don't see it.
- 51:34Speaker 4: But then I opened the stargate at the end. Should
- 51:37Speaker 4: we go, Oh, yeah, I guess, I guess that's what
- 51:40Speaker 4: we do.
- 51:41Speaker 1: I was honestly waiting for any you like, we have
- 51:44Speaker 1: some time, you know.
- 51:45Speaker 4: Like yeah, but time was episode four. They can't have
- 51:49Speaker 4: time now. Next episode is food into Geek, Get into
- 51:56Speaker 4: the Get.
- 51:58Speaker 5: Into eight our Gate
- 52:02Speaker 4: And send me some maask bring