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Stories Carry, We Carry Them Some Even Carry Us From Dena Schusterman · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: I am well.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to that voice. What are you doing being an
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  Speaker 1: author when you've got a voice like that?
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  Speaker 2: Love that. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And a book like this, you have no idea how
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  Speaker 1: much you have touched me with this book because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a daily writer and I am a firm believer that
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  Speaker 1: we should be carrying our stories forward. But you bring
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  Speaker 1: up a very interesting point. Which ones should we carry forward?
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  Speaker 1: Because it seems like everybody else in my family isn't
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  Speaker 1: doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me more. What is it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's one of the things that I
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  Speaker 1: learned as I grew up was that the more and
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  Speaker 1: more we became the older generation of the family, the
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  Speaker 1: more we all had our own interpretation. We all have
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  Speaker 1: different stories about the same exact people that played our
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  Speaker 1: parental figures. But every one of our stories are different.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. Thank you. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's why I guess writing this book
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  Speaker 3: in my 40s gave me.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: The maturity and wisdom, I hope, so far to kind
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  Speaker 3: of look back at these stories with compassion for the
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  Speaker 3: people in them and looking at them in a new
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  Speaker 3: way and seeing my parents in a new light and
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  Speaker 3: You know, bringing to light some stories, some painful, some
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  Speaker 3: difficult and seeing what I could learn from them as
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  Speaker 3: an adult.
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  Speaker 1: Aren't we all pretty much programmed to live happily ever after?
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  Speaker 1: And if we do, you know, bump into a log
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  Speaker 1: and it's like nobody wants to talk about the little
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  Speaker 1: bruise or the cut we got on that log. But
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  Speaker 1: the thing is, is that so we just keep moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: Yet that log was one of the main reasons why
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  Speaker 1: we became.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really appreciate what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: And a big part of my storytelling, and I think
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  Speaker 3: my father's storytelling, was to be with what is. You
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  Speaker 3: can't deny things that happened, and they are real. And
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  Speaker 3: if we shove them under a rug, then they just fester.
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  Speaker 3: But if we bring them to the light, we talk
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  Speaker 3: about them, and then we can actually authentically move on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just did a conversation with somebody whose grandfather
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  Speaker 1: was saved by a man who that it was during
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  Speaker 1: the French war against the Nazis. And this gentleman was basically,
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  Speaker 1: nobody's ever talked about him. And I go, what made
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  Speaker 1: you even go in there to research that? There's no history.
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  Speaker 1: They couldn't find anything. And then when they did, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going, this is every bit the reason why I
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  Speaker 1: need to talk to you, Dina, in the way that
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh my God, you totally get it. If
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  Speaker 1: we would have just left breadcrumbs. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's, it was, these are stories that we
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  Speaker 3: didn't leave behind in my family. We wanted to talk about,
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  Speaker 3: and I felt like I wanted to share them with
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  Speaker 3: the world because they were so meaningful to me.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel, you know, somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Once said to me, the more specific you get Dina
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  Speaker 3: with your stories.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I do in my book. Like I
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  Speaker 2: use the Hebrew words, the Yiddish words. I'm so, so specific. Ironically,
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  Speaker 2: the more universal you will be.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I do want those Hebrew words. I do want
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  Speaker 1: the Yiddish because even my wife, who is Jewish, she'll
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  Speaker 1: give me one of those Yiddish words and I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: you got to tell me more. I mean, I love
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  Speaker 1: it because I love going to research it to find
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  Speaker 1: out how many, many, many things that we say today
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  Speaker 1: came from the 14 or the 1500s. And the average
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  Speaker 1: person doesn't know that. It's because we're not sharing that
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  Speaker 1: story forward.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I hope people are going to read this and
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  Speaker 3: just get a portal into a different world that's not
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  Speaker 3: the average American's experience.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, is it your goal for us to
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  Speaker 1: stay right here in this moment of now? We can
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  Speaker 1: learn from the past, but you've got to stay right
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  Speaker 1: here and transform with what you've just learned.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. How did you figure that out from my book?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's because that's I can feel it because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a daily writer. And that's one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I try to do is I really do try to
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  Speaker 1: embrace who is going to be my dear future reader,
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  Speaker 1: who's going to read this. And it's not going to
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  Speaker 1: be my family or my generation. Somebody up the road
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  Speaker 1: is going to find this.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. It's a huge responsibility.
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  Speaker 3: And it's one of the things when you put yourself
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  Speaker 3: out there, people will say to you, you didn't get
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  Speaker 3: this detail right.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's going to be there forever. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm human. I tried at least, you know.
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  Speaker 3: It's, you know, it's that balance of putting yourself out
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  Speaker 3: there and trying to get it right. But of course,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know every detail of every conversation
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  Speaker 3: my grandparents had. And I tried to fill it in
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  Speaker 3: as best as I knew them. And I could imagine
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  Speaker 3: their conversations went.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope I did them right.
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  Speaker 1: You give me this opportunity that has been so far
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  Speaker 1: away from me for the longest time, and that is
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  Speaker 1: that I don't know my family's history because nobody wrote
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  Speaker 1: it down. I don't know my mom's history. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know my grandparents' history. And, of course, everybody goes, go
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  Speaker 1: do the DAA test. And I go, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to do that because maybe there's something I don't need
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  Speaker 1: to know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Okay. I hear you.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe I would encourage you because, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: name of my book, Stories Carry, we all carry them.
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  Speaker 2: Some even carry us.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe maybe there is a story there that you
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  Speaker 3: do want to know.
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  Speaker 2: And if. Yeah. Well, listen, I think you'll make the
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  Speaker 2: right decision.
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  Speaker 1: It's the last part that scares me. Some even carry us.
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  Speaker 1: And that that's what I go. Oh, I can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to talk with Dina because that's the area I want
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  Speaker 1: to dive into. The stories that carry us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I go into that in my book, how
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  Speaker 3: these stories, I went through something difficult in my life,
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  Speaker 3: me and my husband, and instead of becoming victims to
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  Speaker 3: what could be deemed an intergenerational kind of processes within
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  Speaker 3: our larger system, and we were so privileged to live
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  Speaker 3: in modern times and be able to say, no, we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to do this again. We're going to work
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  Speaker 3: through this. This is not going to become our legacy anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But don't we all pretty much understand the golden rule,
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  Speaker 1: and this might be something that our elementary schools taught us,
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  Speaker 1: is that rewrite it then. If you don't like the
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  Speaker 1: way the story went, rewrite it. And I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that we are such the guilty generation of rewriting our
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  Speaker 1: story until we're happy with it, because we deal with
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  Speaker 1: it by taking selfies.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, everything has a shadow side, right? We can
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  Speaker 2: take something and use it for.
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  Speaker 2: We can take something and use it in the most
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  Speaker 2: beautiful way.
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  Speaker 3: And then on the flip side is just the perversion
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 2: So that's our choice. And we get free choice in
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  Speaker 2: this world.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever have one of those author moments? I always,
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  Speaker 1: I always call them a wine glass moment where it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you want to put it on paper, but you don't
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  Speaker 1: have the courage to do it. And you come back
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  Speaker 1: with the wine glass. You say, just do it. Jump,
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  Speaker 1: make it happen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, baby, did I have those moments?
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  Speaker 3: And the truth is that I wrote a lot and
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  Speaker 3: then I took out a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So it was kind of the balance.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, I come from such a long tradition
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  Speaker 3: of storytelling and storytelling where everybody is convinced their version
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  Speaker 3: is the right.
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  Speaker 2: I want to tell you a great quote.
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  Speaker 3: It says the stories of the Baal Shem Tov, which is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, 1700s Jewish tradition.
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  Speaker 2: You know, mystic.
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  Speaker 3: And they say, if you believe every story about the
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  Speaker 3: Baal Shem Tov, you're a fool.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't believe it could have happened, you're
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  Speaker 2: a heretic.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: So with that kind of weight, I had to dive
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  Speaker 3: into these stories and say, like, I'm going to do this.
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  Speaker 3: And it was some of the most inane things to
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  Speaker 3: write in there became.
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  Speaker 2: So heavy for me. And I was like, listen, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to do it. And it was hard.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. We are just getting started with
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  Speaker 1: Dina Schusterman. She's coming up next. I just love the
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  Speaker 1: title of it all because it says it all. Stories carry.
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  Speaker 1: We all carry them. Some even carry us. We are
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  Speaker 1: back with Dina Schusterman. Did you get the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: sift or go through old people's handwriting and Because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a sucker for handwriting. I want to feel the texture.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know how much weight they put on
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  Speaker 1: that paper when they were shoving that pen in there.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to be able to touch it.
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  Speaker 2: So, no, not in this book, not in that way.
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  Speaker 2: This was all oral storytelling.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but a cousin of mine who's a.
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  Speaker 3: Writer, he actually just reached out to me and he's like,
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  Speaker 3: maybe we could collaborate, Dina. He said he has thousands
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  Speaker 3: of letters, hundreds, thousands of letters. So it's so crazy
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  Speaker 3: that you're bringing that up because he literally just reached
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  Speaker 3: out to me and said that he wants to put
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  Speaker 3: this into a book.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the, one of the greatest things I
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  Speaker 1: want you to do though, and you're going to think
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  Speaker 1: this is gross, but I want you to smell it
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  Speaker 1: because history comes with it. Did you really? Oh, cause there's,
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  Speaker 1: there's something in the scent of yesterday that becomes a
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  Speaker 1: part of our today. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: It's all the senses. We got to like feel it,
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  Speaker 3: you know?
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's such a kick. right now. They're trying to
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  Speaker 1: get the older generation to write down their legacy. And
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  Speaker 1: Chris Epting is a big pusher on that right now.
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  Speaker 1: And he's sitting with average Joe blows who really didn't
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  Speaker 1: do anything except for just, you know, take care of
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  Speaker 1: a great family and build up a business, but, but
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  Speaker 1: they still have a legacy and they still have a story.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's people out there that are going to need
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  Speaker 1: this story because what are we doing, this generation? Trying
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  Speaker 1: to break cycles. And you talk about that in this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. I believe everybody has an interesting story.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody's story, and the most interesting story told is
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  Speaker 3: when the person is able to go inside their inner world.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So it looks like.
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  Speaker 3: It's uninteresting is when somebody is not able to give
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  Speaker 3: you the texture of the inner world and how they
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  Speaker 3: felt and what they thought about.
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  Speaker 1: In the moment.
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  Speaker 3: And the most benign stories can become fabulous and fascinating stories.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that breaking cycles doesn't mean we, as
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  Speaker 3: you get older, you recognize it doesn't mean that like
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  Speaker 3: the old generation was misled or bad. It's just, we
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  Speaker 3: have to have so much compassion for what they went through.
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  Speaker 3: Like there's a certain set of circumstances, there's a context
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  Speaker 3: for how they behaved and it always makes sense. But
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  Speaker 3: we have to be enough removed from it to not
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  Speaker 3: be as the buzzword is today, like triggered or activated
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  Speaker 3: or upset by it to be able to like make
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  Speaker 3: meaning of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hopefully I won't cross the line when I
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  Speaker 1: say this, but it seems like that we are the
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  Speaker 1: generation now that's being taught to do one thing. And
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  Speaker 1: my preacher is so, so guilty of this. Oh, you're
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  Speaker 1: having a hard time. Don't write it down. Just give
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  Speaker 1: it to God. And I'm going, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Write it down. Write it down. We need some breadcrumbs
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  Speaker 1: on this one. You know, you give it away like that.
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  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, when it comes back, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to come back bent and it's going to come
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  Speaker 1: back in a way that, oh, I guess it went
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  Speaker 1: that way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can do both. It's a man,
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  Speaker 3: as you say, but we also got to write it down. Like,
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  Speaker 3: as you say, it's gotta be, I think we can
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  Speaker 3: do both. And I think that's, what's very cool about
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  Speaker 3: this generation. It's not black and white.
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  Speaker 2: It's yes. And we get to do both exactly what
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  Speaker 2: you said. We, and, and it's like, we, we, you,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta feel it to heal it. Right. You gotta
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  Speaker 2: know what you're dealing with.
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  Speaker 3: If you, if you just, it's called, I guess, spiritual
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  Speaker 3: bypassing when you just, give it to God.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I'm not going to judge that, but it.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't feel right for me. For me, it feels like
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  Speaker 2: work through it, process it. And sometimes it's really messy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. What did you do with historical situations? And you
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  Speaker 1: and I just in the past 50 years have learned
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  Speaker 1: and done a lot in this generation and the people
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  Speaker 1: up forward. I mean, we're going into the 25th anniversary
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  Speaker 1: of 9-11 and people aren't thinking about it. They're not
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  Speaker 1: talking about it. And I'm calling BS on that going,
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  Speaker 1: we are going to talk about it because it's something
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  Speaker 1: that we shall never forget. And I just feel like
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  Speaker 1: that if we don't become the stewards of our own generation,
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  Speaker 1: then it's going to be forgotten and rewritten.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that you say that because the very
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  Speaker 3: reason that I understood how important storytelling is is from
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  Speaker 3: 9-11 because Marshall Duke, who's a professor at Emory, he
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  Speaker 3: wrote the New York Times article, he did the research,
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  Speaker 3: which was that the people who lived through 9-11 and
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  Speaker 3: came out the other end with resilience are the ones
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  Speaker 3: who knew the oscillating stories.
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  Speaker 2: Of their families.
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  Speaker 3: They knew the up, the down, the good, the bad,
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  Speaker 3: the ugly, and that gave them context to move forward.
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  Speaker 3: So- It's an imperative on us to do this work,
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  Speaker 3: to know, to talk about it, to bring it out
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  Speaker 3: of the shadows and into the light.
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to start a podcast or even something
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube in the way of teaching people how to
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  Speaker 1: drop their guard in the way of being so protective
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  Speaker 1: of something that they feel is, oh, it's a dark side. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's a learning side. We can learn from this. Because
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  Speaker 1: people need to be taught or given that permission, basically,
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  Speaker 1: just go dig. Go ahead and tell me what you found.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I just want to know what you found.
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  Speaker 3: I do not have a plan, but I am like open,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I, if it happens and it happens
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  Speaker 3: for me, my big thing with writing this book and
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  Speaker 3: putting this book out and whatever the next chapter brings
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  Speaker 3: is that I will not hustle. meaning I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: do this with joy and with excitement and it feels
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  Speaker 3: good for me. And it feels, it doesn't mean I'm
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  Speaker 3: not working hard. I worked so hard to get this
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  Speaker 3: book into the world. So, so, so hard, but there's
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  Speaker 3: a different energy to working hard.
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  Speaker 2: And hustling, right? Hustling means like I'm desperate. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be desperate. So if, if, if teaching.
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  Speaker 3: Online becomes my thing, I mean, I do teach locally
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  Speaker 3: in Atlanta. So I do, I do do this work.
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  Speaker 2: So, um, we'll see. We'll see what it comes to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're taught how to read in elementary school. And
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  Speaker 1: my big thing has always been when I would look
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  Speaker 1: at the teachers, when I would visit the classes and
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  Speaker 1: I would say, but are you teaching them to write?
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  Speaker 1: And I said, if they're going to read and I
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  Speaker 1: get it, man, read this book, read this book. How
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  Speaker 1: many did you read this with this year? Oh, how
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  Speaker 1: many did you write now? If you, if you're going
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  Speaker 1: to read six books, I want six books written from
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  Speaker 1: your handwriting. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: My daughter, who's an avid reader, she's going into high school.
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  Speaker 3: She said to me, mommy, what more do I have
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  Speaker 3: to learn in English? Because she's read every single book.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, sweetie, it's exactly what I said to her.
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  Speaker 3: I said, now you need to write.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. So true. Oh my God. I love talking
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  Speaker 1: with you. I just love where you are and I
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  Speaker 1: love what you're going to be doing to people who are,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be one of those conversation books.
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  Speaker 1: Where people are going to be out for dinner or
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: they're going to be just visiting neighbors and say, by
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: the way, have you read this book, Stories Carry? I
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: think you need to just kind of go get it
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  Speaker 1: and on your own time, pick it up, read it
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  Speaker 1: and learn from it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, better words I haven't heard from your mouth to
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  Speaker 3: God's ears and may it be.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's just one of those books and you just
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: charge me up and you give me permission as a writer,
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  Speaker 1: a daily writer, to just keep on doing it. Keep
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: on doing it. That's great. But like I was mentioning before, though,
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  Speaker 1: you really do. You did trip me up, though, with
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: that comma where it goes, some even carry us. And
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: that to me is I can almost feel it in
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  Speaker 1: my heart. That's why people, they start something and then
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: they stop because it's like, oh, I don't want it
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  Speaker 1: to be my ghost.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, see, but I think my intention was that it
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: carries you through life.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so you're saying not everyone wants to be carried.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: They want to stay stuck. They want to stay heavy.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we all need help moving through life.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: People will always ask me, how is it that you're
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: still doing radio after 46 years? And I said, it's
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: that 14-year-old kid back in Billings, Montana that sat there
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: with me in that bedroom on that block, 4172 Ryan,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and said, you're going to be a radio personality for
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: the rest of your life. Oh, yeah? So that's what
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I say, that everything that we're doing today is everything
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that that child we were did back then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear that. I hear that. I'll talk to
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: that child. Maybe, you know, there's other things too. Who knows?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: No, he cusses like a Montana.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought I would be a writer.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: He cusses like a Montana and I don't want to
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: hang out with him. Got it. Got it. Where can
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: people go to find out more about you? Because they're
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: going to get close to you. They're going to want
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: to know you because you're speaking their street.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, so DinaSchusterman.com is my website. I'm on Facebook, Dina Schusterman.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram, DinaDS, and they can read my book.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: It's available at MercerUniversityPress.com, Stories Carry, and on Amazon. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I'm just so excited to engage and to hear what this...
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: you know, what it means to people to read my stories.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Your entire approach reminds me so much of Delilah who
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: was on the radio. I mean, everything that, that, that
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: everything that you're sharing and, and your, and your vocal
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: tones and your cadence. I mean, I almost feel like
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: that you are Delilah, but you don't want us to
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: know that. But, but I mean, there's just something Delilah is,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: she would, she would do seven to midnight radio all
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: across the country. And she was all about sharing the
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: stories and doing it in such a calm teaching mode
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: and but not offensive. And that's why I'm so mesmerized
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: by a, your book and B your conversation here. It's like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it's like, are you sure you're not in radio or broadcasting?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm, because the way that you're
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: sharing this is like, you're, you're an experienced professional here.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Ah, Thank you.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I think I do remember Delilah now that you say
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: she has this very soft voice.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Yes. Okay.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Listen, maybe you'll write the book and I'll
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: put it on the video. Who knows what will come
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: from this?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I can just hear it now. Hey, everybody. Welcome to
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the show. This is Dean. I'm back on By the way,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you can go to my website, Dina Schusterman. You see
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: what I mean? It's all there. Tonight, we're going to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: be talking about stories that carry, but I don't want
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you to carry them too far. You see what I mean?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: It's all there, Dina.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I love it. That's awesome.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the future. The door is always going to open. It's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: going to be very exciting to find out who is
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: going to be woken up. Is that the right word?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Woken up? No, it's woken up by your pages. I,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I want.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: To come back. This has been so much fun. Thank you.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: You be brilliant today. Okay.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you.