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Luna Mysterium: The Moon Matrix, Memory & the Fate of the Soul w/ Library Of The Untold · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen. What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 2: What I.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Occult Rejects. Our guest tonight is
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  Speaker 1: someone who's become a favorite among researchers who love chasing
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  Speaker 1: forgotten threads through history. Returning to the show is Joey
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  Speaker 1: from Library of the Untold, whose work has earned a
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  Speaker 1: reputation for digging into obscure manuscripts, ancient mythologies, religious traditions,
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  Speaker 1: and esoteric texts to uncover connections that most people never
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  Speaker 1: think to make. This time, he's bringing us one of
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  Speaker 1: the most ambitious investigations yet. For thousands of years, civilizations
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  Speaker 1: separated by oceans and centuries all placed extraordinary importance on
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  Speaker 1: the moon. The Egyptians, Greeks, mess but Tamians, Gnostics, Hermetic philosophers, Hindus,
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  Speaker 1: and countless mystery traditions and countless mystery traditions didn't see
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  Speaker 1: it as just another object in the sky. They believed
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  Speaker 1: it governed time, dreams, fertility, memory, madness, death, and, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: most mysteriously of all, their journey of the human soul.
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  Speaker 1: Why why does the moon appear again and again as
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  Speaker 1: places where souls descend into incarnation or the gait they
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  Speaker 1: must pass through after death. Why do some so many
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  Speaker 1: traditions connected with forgetfulness, remembrance, and reincarnation, and how did
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  Speaker 1: those ancient ideas evolve into modern theories about the moon matrix,
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  Speaker 1: lunar consciousness, soul traps, and cycles of rebirth. Tonight, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to separate ancient sources from modern interpretations, compare mythology
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  Speaker 1: with philosophy, examine what the historical texts actually say, and
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  Speaker 1: even ask where modern neuroscience and astronomy intersect or fail
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  Speaker 1: to intersect with some of humanity's oldest beliefs. Whether you
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  Speaker 1: see the moon as a select your body, a secret symbol,
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  Speaker 1: a cosmic gateway, or simply one of history's greatest mysteries.
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  Speaker 1: This conversation is going to take us through thousands of
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  Speaker 1: years of mythology, religion, and esoteric thought. But before we
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  Speaker 1: introduce Joey from the Library of the Untold, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to introduce the rest of the rejects. We got Judith
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  Speaker 1: with us tonight. What is going on? Judith? How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine and thank you for having me. Joey. I'm
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  Speaker 2: so happy. I can't wait for this discussion. Eric, is
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  Speaker 2: nice to see you again, and for everybody else, you
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  Speaker 2: can find me on x YouTube and spreaker as.
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  Speaker 1: The Loom awesome. Thank you so much for making it tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I was very happy you could. I figured you definitely
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  Speaker 1: dig this topic and we got my man, Eric, what
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  Speaker 1: is going on? Eric? Thank you so much for making
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  Speaker 1: it tonight, so I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, guys, I'm happy to be here. I am Eric Arcadian.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to what will certainly be a very
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  Speaker 3: interesting conversation tonight. And if you want to catch me
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  Speaker 3: on YouTube or any other social media, it's just at
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  Speaker 3: Eric Arcadian, or you can check out my show music,
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  Speaker 3: myth and Magic.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely go check out his stuff if you have not yet. Eric,
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much for making it. I assumed this
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  Speaker 1: would be up your alley because I think we both
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  Speaker 1: like thinking about weird shit that just makes you scratch
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  Speaker 1: your head. So and I'm pretty sure tonight will be
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  Speaker 1: one of those. Joey, my man, while you're sitting over
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  Speaker 1: there fighting with the YouTube or whatever on your phone, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to look you guys up. And then the
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  Speaker 4: short started playing. Yeah I can tell the only one
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  Speaker 4: not being professional here, So that's.
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  Speaker 1: All right, it's all right, you're good man. So please
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  Speaker 1: let everybody know what's up with you. If people who
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard of him yet on this show, if you
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  Speaker 1: happen to be that new and you don't know who
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  Speaker 1: Joey is, Joey, please let him know what's up.
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  Speaker 4: My host Library of the Untold on YouTube. And it
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  Speaker 4: has been a great journey so far. It's been around
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  Speaker 4: for about three years and I'm very happy about it
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  Speaker 4: and it's given me a purpose that I cannot even
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  Speaker 4: begin to say how grateful I am. And I'm literally
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  Speaker 4: learning along the way with everybody else. And this has
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  Speaker 4: become one of my go to stops when it comes
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  Speaker 4: to a new subject matter that sucks me in and
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  Speaker 4: I feel very passionate about. I like to I like
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  Speaker 4: to test it out here, you know, before U before
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  Speaker 4: having a full on episode about something. So it's a
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  Speaker 4: great This is a great place to let it breathe.
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  Speaker 1: No, thank you, We all appreciate it as well, for real,
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  Speaker 1: for real, I will even say, uh, you know, I've
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  Speaker 1: been watching your show for a minute. I think you've
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  Speaker 1: probably been coming on the show for almost the year now,
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  Speaker 1: even from when I first came across your channel compared
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  Speaker 1: to what you're doing now. Not saying I think everything
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  Speaker 1: that you've done has been great, but you can even
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  Speaker 1: see a progression how you're actually learning more and getting
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  Speaker 1: into more deeper and wider things. Right, it's actually really
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  Speaker 1: interesting to like watch you learn and grow yourself on
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  Speaker 1: your own show.
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  Speaker 4: Really, there's a snowball effect, yes that I believe it,
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  Speaker 4: when you go from this is a fun theory that
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  Speaker 4: comes from this, right, and then you do that a
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  Speaker 4: couple times, and then a little bit down the road
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  Speaker 4: you see, oh, those two were connected, and then you say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: those two were and these three were connected like that,
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  Speaker 4: and that becomes a new platform to go from. In it,
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  Speaker 4: it becomes an almost like a Socrates and argument type
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  Speaker 4: of compounding effect, where because with his argument he would
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  Speaker 4: have two pillars that were absolutely true and then put
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  Speaker 4: a new platform on top of that that's more of
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  Speaker 4: a what if, and then you can move from there
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  Speaker 4: until eventually it kind of points you in the right direction.
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  Speaker 4: And I guess the whole idea is to try to
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  Speaker 4: take a little bit of the uh sensationalism out of
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  Speaker 4: what's already extraordinarily fascinating and interesting because.
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  Speaker 5: We are dealing.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just like any trade or any subject matter,
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  Speaker 4: from politics to unboxing shoes. You're gonna have these people
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  Speaker 4: who have a big right thumbnail with a red arrow
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  Speaker 4: and they're shocked in the picture and then they just
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  Speaker 4: fail to deliver. And and my argument for all of
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  Speaker 4: those are, like, these great mysteries are already mind blowing.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to do that if anything is going
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  Speaker 4: to weaken that fence a little bit for people who
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  Speaker 4: are sitting on it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I totally agree. I say that a lot,
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  Speaker 1: even it's so of my solo shows I always mentioned that, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we don't have to start throwing in all
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  Speaker 1: these outland ish theories, because if you were to look
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  Speaker 1: at the situation and then some people I know you're
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  Speaker 1: not like this, You will actually look into the science
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  Speaker 1: and there is actually some science coming out about weird
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  Speaker 1: shit that I think most people would be very surprised about.
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  Speaker 1: So when you start using the actual science and some
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  Speaker 1: other things, you don't need that fantastical stuff. It's already
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  Speaker 1: crazy as it is.
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  Speaker 4: Right, the fact of the matter that quantum physics and
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  Speaker 4: the Book of Genesis say the same thing in different
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  Speaker 4: languages is enough to astound anybody who's paying a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of attention, you know. And then you get into
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  Speaker 4: the Gospels, whereas basically all of the parts left out
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  Speaker 4: of Genesis and there's the precursor to it, and they
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  Speaker 4: start to turn into scientific treatises, which is interesting how
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  Speaker 4: how much they line up with some of the weird
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  Speaker 4: science that's coming out today. And I don't hesitate to
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  Speaker 4: call it. It is weird science coming out.
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  Speaker 1: Today, No, there is, there is and today your topic
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  Speaker 1: right up my alley. Stuff that I've even wondered about.
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  Speaker 1: We've even had somebody else on the show years ago
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  Speaker 1: that was a big Gurgia fan. He had his own
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  Speaker 1: technically kind of a cult, which is why he hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been on the show again. He had his own cult
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  Speaker 1: that he ended up starting, and he used to he
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  Speaker 1: used to throw around some decent phrases, though I think
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  Speaker 1: you got it from Gurget for showing the mood the moon,
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  Speaker 1: food for the people, food for the moon. You know.
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  Speaker 1: So I've always found that rather interesting my own way
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  Speaker 1: I look at it, from experiences I've had, I even
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  Speaker 1: feel that, like, if you're looking at it cobbalistically, the
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  Speaker 1: moon is kind of where you really do start blasting
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  Speaker 1: off and having a magical experience. But even tying it
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  Speaker 1: to physiology, I look at it as the lens in
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  Speaker 1: your rible that's to get out, really out there. But
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  Speaker 1: I do think the moon there's a lot more behind
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  Speaker 1: it than I think most people would ever think when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to occultism, or at least or clear ideas. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm very much looking forward to get into this
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  Speaker 1: because just from things that I've already looked at and
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  Speaker 1: things that you've even said on the show already, I
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  Speaker 1: already know you're thinking in the same direction I do
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  Speaker 1: about this. So I'm looking forward to it, my man.
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  Speaker 1: So how did you you know? One thing else? I
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  Speaker 1: also wanted to say that I don't finally shut up.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. I was thinking about how when you first
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  Speaker 1: came on for Coral Castle, there was a lot about
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  Speaker 1: the moon, kind of focused on that and then seeing
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  Speaker 1: where you are now. That's what I'm getting at, is
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  Speaker 1: just like, Yo, my man ran with this shit and
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  Speaker 1: is in a hole of the world now with this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So how did you get to this this this I
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  Speaker 1: guess idea and topic?
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and who built Coral Castle? They were like,
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  Speaker 4: why do you have water in the moon fountain? And
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  Speaker 4: he's like, moon has water. Because he was a literate
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  Speaker 4: and he couldn't he could barely speak, but he said,
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  Speaker 4: moon has water. And you know, fast forward today, like
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  Speaker 4: many things, we see that that's sure enough, the moon
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  Speaker 4: does have water. And but what's more important is that
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  Speaker 4: the moon regulates all water on Earth, including the water
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  Speaker 4: within us.
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  Speaker 5: And if you're a woman, you know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 4: But also as a man, we all people have the
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  Speaker 4: lymphatic system which carries the water throughout our entire system,
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  Speaker 4: and our lymphatic system is regulated by the moon. So
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  Speaker 4: as fluid creatures that are seventy percent water and the
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  Speaker 4: other fifteen percent is bad math, I assume that the
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  Speaker 4: moon has a lot to do with how we feel
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  Speaker 4: and and what our purpose here is, because it is
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  Speaker 4: a cornerstone to all biology on Earth. So when you
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  Speaker 4: start to look at these weird moon anomalies about how
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  Speaker 4: which I don't want to go and read, everyone already
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  Speaker 4: knows the it rings like a bell, the shallowness of it,
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  Speaker 4: the artificialness of.
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  Speaker 5: It, and they so we've been there.
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  Speaker 4: But we take that and we say, okay, there's something
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  Speaker 4: strange about it, and it's it's it's a catalyst of
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  Speaker 4: life on Earth, the very simplest of biology that we
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  Speaker 4: start to paint a picture of, Well, that's purpose. That
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  Speaker 4: seems more like purpose than it does an accident, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And if that is so, which we'll get into more
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  Speaker 4: evidence for that, then that means there must be a
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  Speaker 4: reason that solar eclipses are perfect, as they are only
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  Speaker 4: on Earth and the moon is too big for the
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  Speaker 4: for the Earth to hold. You start to be like, well,
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  Speaker 4: if they did this on purpose, then they must be
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  Speaker 4: trying to tell us. But in the same way that
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  Speaker 4: if I wanted to shout at a Petri dish and
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  Speaker 4: tell it what it's purpose is. If I yell, if
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  Speaker 4: I tell it try to speak English to it, then
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  Speaker 4: nothing's going to happen. So I would have to put
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  Speaker 4: something in its language to they could understand. I would
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  Speaker 4: have to introduce something to that Petri dish to help
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  Speaker 4: communicate with the bacterium in it. And there's no better
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  Speaker 4: way to communicate with us than what the moon is
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  Speaker 4: literally doing all of the time, facing right at us,
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  Speaker 4: all of the time without spinning. I mean, it's suspicious
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  Speaker 4: across the board. But this along with a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: moon lore about it being a soul catcher, from all
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  Speaker 4: kinds of mythologies, and then people take the Arkans from gnoscissism.
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  Speaker 4: They sprinkle that on top of it. All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: they start to see the moon as evil. But this
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  Speaker 4: is a gigantic mistake, just like in the Book of
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  Speaker 4: the Dead, how we're supposed to see the mara as
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  Speaker 4: reflections of our own psyche. That way we can get
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  Speaker 4: past them because they will attack us, but they are us,
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  Speaker 4: and the Arcans in the end are also the same
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  Speaker 4: as the mara and that Book of the Dead, the
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  Speaker 4: reflection of our own psyche. Jesus told his disciples that
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  Speaker 4: you are the Arkans because we are made in their image,
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  Speaker 4: which comes back to the moon as well. But the
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  Speaker 4: moment we realize that it's not a good or bad thing,
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  Speaker 4: it's like a hammer. It's a tool. You know, you
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  Speaker 4: can build a shed or you can beat yourself in
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  Speaker 4: the face with it. It's your choice. It's a reflection
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  Speaker 4: of who you are, which brings up the entire main
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  Speaker 4: aspect of.
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  Speaker 5: What the moon represents.
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  Speaker 4: Besides water, which is death and temporary, there's no surprise
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  Speaker 4: that the moon represents things temporary, because it wanes and whacks,
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  Speaker 4: it goes away and comes back. But more than that,
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  Speaker 4: ancient people believe that you ascend through the moon to
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  Speaker 4: get to heaven, and sometimes you bounce back off of
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  Speaker 4: it and end up back on Earth. And that's decided
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  Speaker 4: basically on who you are. In Egyptian it's the weighing
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  Speaker 4: your heart against a feather. In Christianity is Saint Peter
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  Speaker 4: reads the Book of Deeds. You know, in the Tibetan
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  Speaker 4: Book of the Dead, you have to, as we just said,
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  Speaker 4: a moment ago recognize yourself in it. There's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of different allegory for the same thing, but basically, as
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  Speaker 4: you when your soul leaves, it hits the moon, and
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  Speaker 4: then there's a waiting period where you can either move
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  Speaker 4: on to what they might call Nirvana or you get
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  Speaker 4: bounced back down to Earth. And this leads our society,
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  Speaker 4: our sci fi society, our a dystopian sci fi society,
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  Speaker 4: to what they would call a moon trap. And I
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  Speaker 4: believe this to be a mistake, and I think that
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot not only a lot more complexity to it,
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  Speaker 4: but it's also going to be a self fulfilling prophecy.
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  Speaker 4: If this is what people believe on their deathbed, you know, So.
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  Speaker 2: I have a quick question for you. What does that
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  Speaker 2: say for the souls that get thrown back within that theory?
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  Speaker 4: Right? So what like Saint Paul would say that everything
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  Speaker 4: that is a righteous person sees things that are righteous,
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  Speaker 4: and the decrepit cannot see what is righteous, believing that
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  Speaker 4: things are negative in our life, which is a choice,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, you know, a world that runs out
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  Speaker 4: of problems, we don't have to hunt for our food anymore.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of we're not even in the food chain,
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  Speaker 4: you know, So we've run out of problems. We make
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  Speaker 4: up our own problems. So it's a decision. So whenever
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  Speaker 4: the body dies, you don't have anything to reflect off of.
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  Speaker 4: It's now just you and your psyche, and you are
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  Speaker 4: the entire universe before it moves on into another one.
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  Speaker 4: So whatever you have been and in this world, whether
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  Speaker 4: it's to others or to yourself, weighing the heart against
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  Speaker 4: the feather is your entire experience. So whether it actually
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  Speaker 4: literally hits the moon or not, I think is actually
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  Speaker 4: kind of besides the point. It could be allegory but
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  Speaker 4: it also might be literal because we have to remember,
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  Speaker 4: you know doctor Emoto. This is a to answer your question,
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  Speaker 4: is probably best if we mentioned doctor Emoto because he
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  Speaker 4: did the water freezing experiments. Yeah, all right, So you
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  Speaker 4: know how if you are kind and loving to the water,
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  Speaker 4: it freezes into symmetry. But if you yell at it
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  Speaker 4: for being a dumb bitch, then it freezes in discordance.
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  Speaker 4: It's not symmetrical. Right, Well, we are all water, and
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  Speaker 4: space is frozen, and water can't leave, not like electricity
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  Speaker 4: can leave Earth.
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  Speaker 5: Gravity doesn't affect it.
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  Speaker 4: Water, however, is bound to Earth, to the weather sphere,
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  Speaker 4: the relationship of clouds and rain precipitation, that's in a cycle.
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  Speaker 4: So that is the first thing that kind of almost
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  Speaker 4: points to what you might call a soul recycler, because
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  Speaker 4: if you're going to remember anything about it, water maintains memory.
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  Speaker 4: Water is a storage facility for memory. So that's gonna
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  Speaker 4: basically stay on Earth while the rest of the soul,
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  Speaker 4: which is most likely plasmatic electricity, leaves and joins back
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  Speaker 4: with the stars and that are the sun or whatever
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  Speaker 4: it is. So if your water memory that you've imprinted
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  Speaker 4: onto your water through your lymphatic system is discordant, like
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  Speaker 4: doctor Ramoto has shown, during the time of death, it
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  Speaker 4: has no choice but to not be activated and not
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  Speaker 4: be quantantly entangled with the rest of the universe that
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  Speaker 4: it needs to rejoin and absorb with because it's dense
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  Speaker 4: and it's hard, like the term hard water would indicate,
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  Speaker 4: like the Egyptian said about the soul that is heavier
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  Speaker 4: than a feather, you're literally too weighed down by your
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  Speaker 4: own negative boat to get out of this weather system
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  Speaker 4: that is Earth, and that could easily be extrapolated as
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  Speaker 4: a soul trap.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, that makes perfect sense because if you look at
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  Speaker 2: different mythologies, no matter what tradition it comes from, you
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  Speaker 2: will have at least one or two main water parables
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  Speaker 2: and stories within that culture.
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  Speaker 4: Right right, it's water is the biological secret of everything,
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  Speaker 4: and the fact that the Moon regulates it it goes
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  Speaker 4: to show us like the Acadians and Sumerians and the
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  Speaker 4: Dogon they were quick to point this out that the
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  Speaker 4: moon is the seated father or the king of order. Basically,
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  Speaker 4: it's what it's what brings the cosmic octaves or the
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  Speaker 4: music of the spheres whatever. Pythagoras said it's what X
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  Speaker 4: supports that down into our being and creates the atom.
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  Speaker 4: So from the atom cadmus to the atom of flesh,
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  Speaker 4: it's like an exupport carbon copy of itself into a
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  Speaker 4: into a microcosm that comes through the moon to be
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  Speaker 4: able to get down here. So it certainly it goes
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  Speaker 4: both ways. And that now that much might not even
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  Speaker 4: be allegory, because I mean, the way our system is
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  Speaker 4: tuned is deeply embedded with the moon. You know, if
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  Speaker 4: you if a major chord on a guitar and a
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  Speaker 4: minor chord is only one note away happy and sad,
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  Speaker 4: and a baby could identify which one it is? How
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: we no one taught us which which chord on a
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: guitar is happy and which one's sad. That's not subjective?
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: How crazy is it that that's an objective thing?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: The reason that one is happy and one is sad
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: is because our solar system is as such. If one
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: thing was out of place, we would hear it differently.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: To me, that's that's mind blowing enough right there to say, okay,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: open up the doors to some to some further speculation.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: You know, it is interesting though, when it comes to
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like music, certain music. I mean, you'll see people play
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it in front of animals and it's like, yeah, it
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: chills them out, but yeah, it's like you and yeah,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like certain sounds just people know that, like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: oh that just sounds off.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that's there's a tuning to it, you know, like, uh,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: like our chakra system each has a particular frequency, and
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: that's that's a little bit of pseudoscience right there. But
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: it's a distance to get rid of any of the
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: uh spamming from materialist science that we get nowadays, which
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: is I think dying rather quickly, especially since it's been
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: shown that Maxwell is the one who uh put all
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: of our education into place, and guys like Richard Dawkins
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: we found in the files are literally hired to kill God. Well,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: this is stuff that where they the material of scientists
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: might have not actually even believed this in the first place.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Some of them did because they're followers, but the main
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: big dogs were hired to kill God and that was
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: their job when actually we've seen that science is just
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: talking about God the entire time, just with a different language.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: But but yeah, the particular tones, Man, if you put
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: on five two eight on speakers of your heart recognizes
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: it and starts to slow down. That's not an accident,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: you know. And and and that's what the chakras are
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: really all about.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: People will be like a surgeon can't pull a chakra out.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: The surgeon also can't pull an idea out of the head,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: or the voice out of a throat, or the ache
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: out of a heart, or the feeling out of someone's gut.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: It's it's not it's not the thing. It's what the
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: thing does. That's what the chakra is. It's it's the
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: role of that sensor. And each one has the color
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: and a frequency, which is crazy because then that's when
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: you start to find out that color and sound are
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the same thing. The reason they're different to us is
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: because we have two different organs for it. Where we
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: are separating sound and uh and uh and color. It's
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: otherwise objectively they're the same thing. So we we are
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: the factory that generates you know, reality, which if if
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: if we are projecting reality as quantum physics seems to
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: be indicating, which is what the the mini world's theory
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: is trying to cover up. It's ridiculous what they'll reach
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: for to uh to uh hide the fact that we
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: project reality that it does come down to the only
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: thing being objective about our reality is the Sun Earth relationship.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: That's the only thing that's actually that we're bound to objectively.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: You know what, can we be objective with that if
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: they are, because they're causing our vibration to enact itself
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: by manipulating the water, so technically it's not necessarily neutral.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Right, that's difficult. I man, I don't know. I went
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: on this big detoxing of heavy metals and parasites thing
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: very recently because of finding out what is in everything,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: the food, water, and air, and it's heartbreaking.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: We can only hope that the.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Power of consciousness transcends whatever bs they're hitting us with,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: which actually, so like check this out if you all right?
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: So I got there's a book, there's a Coptic gnostic
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: book called the on the Origin of the World, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: it explains how there's like a curtain between the above
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: pleroma and our world down here, and so Sofia, the
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: archons or the planets so to speak, got with the
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: moon and made the material vessel that is the human being,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: and they their their goal was to r word it
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: because it resembled the Sofia, which is not you're not
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: going to find that in the Bible. But they were.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: These arcons were very sexual beings, and so when they
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: when it woke up, it was without spirit. And then
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: but it did have soul, it was conscious and aware
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: of itself. But Sofia protected them from these archons. And
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: by making herself a decoy, which was a tree, a
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: fig tree, by the way, which really gets interesting. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: so she imbued these human clay vessels with her own spark,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: with her wisdom, with her uh, with her spirit, so
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: to speak. And she made it clear to them that
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: there's nothing that the arcons can do that con taint
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: that light. She the way she put it was like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: you can't hang anything on it. You can't nothing can
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: stick to this part of you, your bodies, I mean,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: you're of which you came from clay. You're you're fucked.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: There's nothing we can do. They're gonna get you. But
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: turned the other cheek, which that she didn't say that
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: that came later, I guess, but uh, but she but
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: she made it clear. I want to I wish I
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: could read it exactly from here, but she made it
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: clear that the light from her within the human vessel
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: is completely untaintable to any of the arconsic forces, which
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: in here are called the authorities. If I if I
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: happen to see it, I'll let you know, or you
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: could even look it up. This is uh oh, this
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: is a quick Amazon buy that I'm surprised not everybody
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: has it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I actually do. And I'm gonna ask you where in
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: that book are you?
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Are you reading?
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Are you referencing? Uh?
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: There? This one is called on the Origin of the World,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: which is, besides the Tripartite track Date, easily the most
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: interesting and scientific of these Gnostic gospels.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Who made that book?
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: It's a compilation of different UH of different UH translators,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: so every translator got their own little page and their
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: own little introduction and and whatnot. And reading the introductions
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: to each one is actually really interesting because you can
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: tell they weren't hired to extrapolate their own theories into it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: But during the introduction they're like, there's something there's something
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: new and unheard of, you know, going on here. But
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: there's there's nuggets in here that are beautiful. For example,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: yelled Tobaos, the famous demiurge right had to name his
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: arkans or whatever. And in the Origin of the world,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: the way he names his arkans is through baby talk.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: He's got them in his arms and he's making little
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: gibberish baby noises to them, and then that comes to
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: fruit and they become from that vibration of his baby talk.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: So it's like there's there's He is an ignorant, blind god,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: so to speak. But it makes it clear it's not
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: necessarily his fault. Now him not coming around and realizing
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: that is his fault. But let me obviously, I'll read
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: the baby talk part. The ruler created a second son
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: and coud to him. The child opened his eyes and
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: said to his father, eh, so his father.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Called him oa.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: The ruler created a third son and cooed out to
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: him in love. The child opened his eyes and says
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: to his father, and his father called him as asked
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: the FAOs. I can't pronounce that one as bestos. Maybe uh,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: these are the three sons of their father, and it's
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: you can see right there it's actually or maybe I
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: might be pronouncing it wrong, but he's cooing. He's cooing
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: out to his new little babies or whatever, and so
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: it's not all black and white. It's not all you know,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: good and evil. You know, there's a That's the thing
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: about a lot of these deeper doctrines that separated from
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: modern Christianity is that it's not sin isn't about good
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: and bad. It's about ignorance. It's about willful.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because that's even like I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: think you're really nailing it on the head with that,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: when you when people were might from looking into like
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the demi Urge, and even if you sort of like
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: in the movie Mother, which is even I think a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: great movie even to just talk about talk about even
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the whole baby part. They even have a baby in that.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: But if you look at the most part how the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Demiurge has really looked at it is that he's ignorant
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: of a creator above him, right, so, and a lot
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of people all of a sudden want to turn it
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: into like this person is like Satan lucifer a bay Dude. No,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: he just lacks spiritual because he's just ignorant to it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: It's not because it's I don't know, I'm glad you
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: mentioned that, because it really is just kind of the
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: not knowing that there's something greater than you.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Right, Well, it describes there being a veil that was
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: accidentally formed between the pleroma and the luminous cloud that
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: the demiurge was hidden in. And if you take that
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: into a scientific perspective, and I know I've said this
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: before and on your show, plasma, which is basically light
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: electricity and laboratories, give birth to its own dust, and
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: the dust is gonna be utterly unable to see.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: We can't see plasma. It's invisible to us.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: So this idea of a veil between the pleurroma of
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: light beings and yell debailes, which is the first mineral being.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's in the bag right there. That's plasma
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: creating its own dust. And if you get into electric
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: universe stuff, which I heavily subscribe to, that's also equatable
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: to suns giving birth to their own planets, which seems
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: to also be the case. And if that was the case,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: they'd be molten and they'd form into bubbles and they'd
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: be very cavernous within. But if you think about if
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: the idea of there being a pleroma or a platonic realm,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: or a heaven or DMT beings all around us, if
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: that all sounds silly. Think about it as a dimensions
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: that we can see and study within beings that we study.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: So if you see an ant, it's gonna be munching
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: on bacteria or whatever it eats. The bacteria can't look
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: up and see the ants. As far as to it,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: the ants is just part of its environments. It's it
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: doesn't identify it as a being. If an ant is
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: walking on my arm, I could I could blow on them,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: and it doesn't even assume that it's wind. It doesn't
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: assume anything. It's just part of its environment. It doesn't
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: recognize me as a being. It can't look up and say, oh,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I'm on a human being right now, we are just
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: because it's it's a two D creature. So we're going
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: from one D to two D and then you can
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: go down from bacteria into you know, molecules or whatever.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: But we think that the buck stops here and that
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: an ant can't look up at us. But we need
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: to stop and realize that to think, Okay, we can
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: see that things can look down, but they can't look up.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: We can look down, but we can't look up there.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: So even no matter how hard we strain, none of
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: our scientific instrument, no matter how technologically expensive it is,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: has the capacity to measure upward in dimension because it's
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: not we're not. Our biology, like the ants, is meant
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: for survival. So to identify that something is sentient above
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: you ain't doing any good when it comes to eating, pooping,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: and recreate and reproducing. So our biology is where we're limited,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: which that, as simple as that is, is again will
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: lead a sort of negativity in the conspiracy community into
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: a soul trap idea or a limit limitation idea. You know,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: the whole idea of it would be to eventually transcend
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: that limitation in the first place. So it's not that
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: the body is evil, it's not that the world is evil.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: It's that we live in the food chain. And that's
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: kind of what the gnostics we're trying to get across
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: is that everything here eats. And this is what the
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: archons seem to represent, is that everything must eat. So
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: again that will get extrapolated into a limitation things. Instead
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: of focusing on what we can do to see past it,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: we often tend to focus on survival mode, and we
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: hyper focus on what it is that's wrong instead of
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: what can be done about it, and in the Book
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: of Jau Christ lays out the whole recipe for how
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: to get past the arcons, how to get past the moon,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: all that stuff.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: You know, do you think it's by design?
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: I think it's by design.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: That we focus on the negative instead of the positive.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, so you hit me with a twist there. Sorry, No, yes, great,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: that that's that's difficult because if it's by design that
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: we focus on the negative, I'm mad about it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: But uh, I don't know.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: But I think that maybe once upon a time, we
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: used to look at the stars, safe by a fire
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: and come out of ourselves, and it was easy. We
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: come unhinged and and we could. This is why you
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: know spirituality has become wu woo nowadays, is because we're
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: not directly in contact with it. And maybe that's what
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: it was. Carl Jume talks about UFOs and paranormal stuff,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: and he said, all that is is the human psyche
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: remembering what it once could do once upon. That's not
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: his exact words. But we have become so detached from
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: spirit that we call it paranormal. Well, you know what
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: what does that tell you? So if it is by.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Design, then we did it to ourselves.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, it's very interesting stuff that he's saying.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Or even with the moon here, I've mentioned it on
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the Moon series, I did, I think lunar gods and
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I think I did something with eclipses and stuff. But
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I had mentioned it throughout a couple of different times
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: on the show. If you were to go back just
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a few hundred years ago, where we didn't have all
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: this artificial light, it was a completely different world. If
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: you want to go back even farther, and this is
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: what I had covered like in the in the in
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the Lunar Male God series. You know, because a lot
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: of you know, I don't think people realize that there
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: is a lot of male deities associated with it. It's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: just that they're a lot older. Because at night it
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: was used if you had a full moon, that was like,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: oh great, we can actually go out and see enough
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to go hunt. Yeah, we could go travel. Actually used
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the light from the moon to be able to do stuff.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: And then if you want to like start getting into
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: like looking at other things that I've covered with the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: mechanics of magic, if you now want to start taking
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: away all this artificial light and you want to start
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: going out into a world where it's mostly darkness. Unless
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: you've got a torch between flame, flickering between darkness itself,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: your eyes are going to start playing tricks with your brain, right,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: You're just gonna have a weird experience regardless at night.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it gets dark enough, your body starts
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: to wonder where it ends, and you start having very
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: weird effects, right, I mean, you can get weird.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad you said that for two reasons. First
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: of all, in Revelation, it says that a third of
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: the stars would fall from the sky and we wouldn't
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: be able to see them anymore because we'd be too
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: they fell to earth. A third of the stars fell
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: to earth. Dude, zoom out and look at New York City.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: The stars are on the ground now and we've now
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: we can't see but two thirds of them anymore, and
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: you can't make this ship up.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: You know that that is actually interesting because what if
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you were somebody who hadn't experienced and I you know,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: kind of like so manybe glimpses over the future, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: didn't know of that hype what sat don did? You
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: would think that all those lights, what saws on the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: fucking ground man.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Right, and they looked like webs of galaxies. And yeah, dude,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: and so Saint whenever Saint John was given the vision
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: of revelation, which is what that means is to reveal. Uh,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: it was made clear to him that he was going
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: to see the whole, the whole thing, and which I
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: in revelation disjunked.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: I I have a whole.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Like a segment on that or whatever. But ancient moon gods, dude,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: how crazy is it?
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: So today the moon is feminine, in the sun is
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: masculin in tell.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Me how that makes wet?
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: You're right? So the sun gives birth to all life,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: and it is the bringer of all life. The moon
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: is what regulates, a disciplinary figure that keeps cosmic order
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: like a father does. How would that be opposite? It's not.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: The moon has always been masculine and the Sun has
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: always been feminine, and it was switched yesterday, dude. Pretty
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: much in the Middle Ages at white dumb, sexually repressed
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: men who saw the Sun as superior.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: And it all points in that direction.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: For the same reason that Mary Magdalen was made a hooker,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: is the same reason that they flipped the sun in
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: the moon and it's ignorant.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was going to say that earlier,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: but then we kind of got off of it. I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: do think that is kind of like, uh, I think
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: it might have been done on purpose. When it comes
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to a lot of religions that I think, you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I think old religions come from some kind of a
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: cult idea anyway, but I think you I'll take you know, Catholicism, Christianity,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: it kind of lacks the feminine. And I think if
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: you're really a good occult this and you're really studying
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: this shit, you need to look at both and you
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: need to understand both, because I think they work together.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of a blind and then when you
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: get into magic or occultism, they fuck it all off
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: at the moon. They leave the whole male, you know.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: And it is that part of the blind of not
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: understanding that right because it was and I even when
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I first came across it is when I was like
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: kind of looking into eclipses because I wanted to do
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: a show on eclipses. I don't remember exactly what tradition
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: it was, but it was like one of those older
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: ones where the I realized the moon was actually the dude,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: and the sun was a female, and I think it
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, the man was chasing the woman
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: and the sky is some shit. And I was like, wait,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: what this is twisted? And then when I started looking
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: into the moonshit, I was like, yo, it was actually
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: totally reversed a long time ago, right, and even scientifically
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: scientifically just real quick, if you were just stick a
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: woman inside of a room with like no fucking sunlight
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: at all for like a month or two, she's not
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: gonna drop eggs either, right, right, So I mean, if
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you want to even look at childbirth, it's not gonna
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: happen unless you drop that egg that the fucking sun
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: has to give you.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: It's interesting, dude, and it's that's that's that's the way
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: it is. And whenever I first kind of had my
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: little theory about the Sun being Sofia and the Earth
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: and the Moon being the demi or Saturn being the
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: demi Ergos, which is not my theory by the way,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: but the Sun being Sofia certainly is as far as
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I can tell it was, I was like in my head,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: like I want to keep going down this road, but
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: how can I go down if it's if the sun
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: is masculine? How can that be? And by the time
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: I got into the mythology, it was cleared up almost immediately.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Dude, you know how it makes sense to me? It's reflective.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: It reflects the light that is a very male thing,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: right there. Projection that was the easiest way. No, it's
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: just keeping a even kabalistically, you know, it would be
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you know, force, projective force. It's just to me, the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: light reflecting off of the moon is an easy way
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: for me to make a connection.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have to push back a little bit
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: about the moon the sun being feminine, because according to
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the ancient Egyptians, they did give that to Ra and Horace.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I thought Horace was Myers, though.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: It depends on which dynasty you follow, because he was
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: supposed to take he was supposed to take Ro's spot,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: which was the sun guy.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: So Ra was not. No. Okay, I get you on there,
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: but I'll see you and I'll raise you one though,
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: because though JAHOUDI was the moon and he had quite
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: the pecker. If you if you realize, if you're literally
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, could it be that an Egyptian? Okay? So
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: are there there are there's like there's there's female Egyptian gods.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: There's the yes, do you got isis nep by you?
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: That's a great question that could have been.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: But I am going to go back on the Egyptian
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: thing because that could be because aside from Ross standing
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: in that spot, it was also the spot of the pharaoh.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: So like the pharaoh was typically male pharaoh.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the pharaoh was typically male or if it was
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: a female, she took the male persona yeah, and they
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: were supposed to be the bringer of life and nourishment
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: and prosperity to the land. So that was the role
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: of the pharaoh. Yeah, was mostly the males.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Fun fact, the richest Egypt ever was is because there
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: was a woman in George.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the first female pharaoh was uh yo.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: She she fucking killed it with making money, dude.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: You know there there was a time. If you look
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: at the oldest reflection of ancient times, you've got the
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: dogon of Mali and they are descendants of Egypt, or
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: so they claim, which I'm gonna believe what they say,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: because they knew serious B was a binary star system.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: They knew it was trinary actually, so they knew stuff
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: and they knew about the moons of Saturn. Dude. It
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: goes on and on, and by the way, they claim
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: that serious is a water world, that our water came
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: from there because it was quarantined, that water was infected
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: with bad information and was sent out, and then that
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: came here. But decide, Note that's interesting considering the water
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: thing and the soul trapped thing. But but the dogon
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: and a bunch of other ancient natives in that those cultures,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: the man's body was a vehicle meant solely to protect
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: women and children. Women and children were the dot in
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: the middle of the circle, and the men were the
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: perimeter of the circle.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: And that was their job.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: And somewhere along the damn way not only got twisted
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: and reversed, but now we got these Andrew Tait retards
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: who are celebrating the fact that it's been clowns that
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: have no idea the utter detriment of their contribution to
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: society by eliminating the divine feminine. This is what the
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: cremation of care ritual is at Brohemian Grove is to.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: This is what makes me think that we're Martian, Dude, Like,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: how did we get to this point where We can
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: clearly see that women are intuitive. They never forget anything.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: They keep us in line. I mean, of course we're
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: the bringers of life. But they're also psychic women, are you, dude?
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Women are psychic. That's all there is to it. You
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: can't lie to them, and that's it doesn't matter. They
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: they are naturally le right brained and psychic. That's Gaya,
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: that's Mother Earth, that's you know, that's Sophia. Men are
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: meant to protect that and carry that flame. And I'll
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: tell you that's why the Martians are dead. And I
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: think that's what we got going on here, man. But hey,
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: that's a whole nother rabbit hole.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: When did the when when did they they for When
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: did we forget our rules? Because that basically what happened.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: I think that it was a long Okay, Pope Gregory
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: in the sixteen hundreds claimed that Mary Magdalen was a prostitute,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: and from there, I don't know how right, oh, dude,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: So that's that's that's not going to be good. And
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: then I think before that there was some particular pharaohs
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: even that they were men and they had to be
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: the top They had to just be the top dog,
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: because you know, in Egypt, their culture got worse and
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: worse and worse as it went. So eventually, by the
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: time the dynasty, affairs were human, which happened pretty early,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: but before that it was the King's list. You know,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: they were human men. And then of course you're separated
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: from spirit more and more until eventually, we I think
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: it slowly started to flip and then you know, before
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: you know it, Jack is thinking to the bottom of
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: the ocean and Titanic, damn it. We all we messed
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: up and we got to go back.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Damn it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: So that has nothing to do with it.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: You know, if you with that Homily thirty three thing,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: it's actually starting to I don't know if it's totally
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: accepted by the church now, but I know it's starting
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: to become more accepted and pretty much looked at that
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that is a screw up, because it has been pointed
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: out that if you like really look at everything that
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: was I think, I guess taken down or whatever in
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: the story what he said, he screwed up, like the order,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: it's a different woman that was already being prior being
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: talked about, right, so like it's it's already pretty much
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: like knowing that, like, that's a fuck up, And she
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: wasn't a prostitute.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Right, Oh no, there's no biblical literature anywhere, in canonical literature, Gnostic, Coptic,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: there's no indications of prostitution from Mary.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: If anything, she was the same way that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: The Christ is, the uh is like the flesh avatar
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: of the Father, then Mary was the flesh avatar of
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: the Sophia, the Mother of God. That's how sacred she
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: was considered. Whenever Jesus said, go preach the Gospel and
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: end religion, she was like in charge of shit.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: And the only.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: People who I think there was a couple of the
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: disciples who had a problem with at first, which is
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: captured in like John and Thomas or whatever, but that
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: was squashed pretty quickly because she was the one who
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: had the visions and she was the one she knew
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: what to do. You know. So we have this idea
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: that like men should be in charge because of the
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: left brain. We're logical and we know what I ale
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: to go down at fucking home depot. But when it
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: comes to the actual essence of being alive in the
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: human experience on earth, we are supposed to turn to wisdom,
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: which is the feminine to know what to do. That's
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: that's that's the way it's always been, until we forget
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: so quickly, you know.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: All right, I gotta circle back for a second. Right,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: So we're talking about ancient Egyptian mythology. We do have
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: the male aspect in the sun, obviously, but then we
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: also have the goddess who wears the sun crowned. So
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: I believe that there is an aspect and a balancing
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: force of each in everything. But then in modern Oculd
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: studies we do have like a really hard drive that
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: the sun is masculine and the moon is feminine. So
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: when that swap occurred from whatever ancient times where it
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: was reversed, what effect do you think? First of all,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: do you think that was like an intentional obfuscation to
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: get people farther away from the mysteries, And what effect
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: do you think it has now on like our spirituality
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: and our own connection to the divine and ascension? I
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: guess the best way to put it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Right, for damn sure.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: The alchemists of the Middle Ages feared for their life,
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: and they they they swapped, They often swapped things in
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: their alchemical codices that were meant to be so utterly
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: obvious opposite that other alchemists would know better. However, after
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: so many resets, you know we will forget that and
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: then be confused, which is really the idea of muddying
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: the waters. The easiest way to censor something is not
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: to say it isn't so it's to add additional bullshit
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: to it. That's what we see today with NASA stealing
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: ten billion dollars a year from us because they invented
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: flat earthers. And I hate saying that. I lose subscribers
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: every time I say it. But the reason NASA can
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: steal our money and they don't go to space, they
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: don't go to Mars, it's too expensive. They pocket the money.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: But every time it comes up, guess who's around the corner,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: ruining it for everybody. So I'll let me not get
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: derailed there. But that is exactly what you're saying. Is
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: what the alchemists would do to stay protected from authority
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: is swap certain things, and so that much is on
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: purpose with the alchemist it is to not die. So
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: you almost can't blame them. They didn't know that these
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: their their recipes where we're gonna be preserved and studied
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: by young all these years later. That was meant for
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: those guys, that was that that was for them. It'd
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: be like us predicting a thousand years from now, someone's
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: gonna study this this talk. You know, we it's not.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: It doesn't really occur to us that that could be so.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: But uh, now with it being done on purpose, I
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: I today, I think certainly it's done on purpose. If
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: you go to Barnes and Noble and you go to
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: the back to the bottom shelf, you're gonna see Graham
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Hancocks Fingerprints of the Gods right next to a book
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: about Wicca. There there is and there's no there's absolutely
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: no mistake. Now, I'm not saying the people who work
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: at Barnes and Noble are doing that.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: That's not That's not what I'm saying.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: There's always, there's always this triangular code. It's like the
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: people who report the news are not evil, they're just
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: given a script.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: They literally might not even know better.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: Some of them do. But there's a reason that you
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: will get the most watered down book about crystals and
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: no crystals are legit.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: That's not what I'm saying.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: But the version of it we get Okay, here we
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: go astrology. Astrology is damn real. Get your birth chart done,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: that is locked in. There are things. I was astonished.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: So I came to realize that the planets, the way
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: they are at your time of birth, export a carbon
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: copy of themselves, and that becomes you. And you character.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: What's the first thing you ever heard though, when it
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: came to astrology, it was a horoscope. The first thing
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: you ever got was a horoscope saying do you wake
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: up tired?
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: Are you cranky when you're hungry?
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: And it's just it's so again, you don't say tell
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: people censor by saying don't look at it. You add bullshit.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: You add layers of bullshit until it no longer bears
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: any weight. So if you go to Barnes and Noble,
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: now you you got Chris Dunn, who's a machinist who
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: knows what he's doing. And then he's right next to
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: fucking Billy Carson or David Wilcock, and then you you
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: muddy the waters like that.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: Nick, don't don't even laugh like that. Stop it.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, I'm because I text Billy Carson yesterday.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: This is if you come on the show, have him on.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Have him on, ask him something. I don't care.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna come on. He answered me and said, yeah,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: but I know he's not gonna come on. He's already
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: told me yes three times he's I don't I'm gonna
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: keep it real. It's just for his fucking name. Honestly, No,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: I understand that because I.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Think a lot of shit that he's covered when it
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: comes to the occult. It's like just stop, which is
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: really weird. Which is really weird because he is a
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Knights templar and all of his buddies are huge intrognosticism
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: that I know he was friends with that I've seen
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: at places. He's friends with these people. They're very big
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: into the occult, and it seems like where did he
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: lose it? I don't know. I just I don't agree
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: with a lot of his ocultism.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: I can I can become an after physicist if I
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: pay the five thousand dollars fee and pass the written tests,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I don't know, but I don't know.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: I see it everywhere. I've seen people ask me if Jason,
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: George Johnny, when are you gonna have Jason Georgeohnny on
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: the show, right all this shit, dude, he's a menace
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: that is a bad person, and I can't, like, I know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be this like neutral guy, not talk
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: smack or whatever. When I see it, I got iced
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: my duty to say so dude. But so I read.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: I got Georgiohnny's books down here. I mowed through him.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: He is a clown and a parasite. Dude. He's a
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Satanist and he's goofy's heard you.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: I think the audience he might say this or whatever.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: He waxes poetically about Satan and how all bequeathed. He
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: is to be the son of whatever, and people eat
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: it up. And he's the first one to tell people
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: that the moon is a soul trap. And he you'll
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: notice something on podcasts he tells these big paranormal wild
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: stories from guys who are dead, and he adds, all
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: I've read Ingo Swan, I've read you know, Carl Jung,
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Joseph Campbell.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, who's the other guy he quotes all the time,
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: John Mack.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: All these guys are dead, and he goes on the
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: podcast and just swings their ship in whichever way is
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: going to get the most views and be the most spectacular.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is he gets away
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: with it because he's mean, he's a jerk, and that
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: makes it seem like he knows what he's talking about.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: And it, dude, it drives me nuts. Whenever people hitting
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: me up, they're like, oh, you gotta have Georgiohnny on.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: He's seen the UFO and it's like it's bait. It's bait,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: and he's reeling. He into Satanism hm hm in this
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: character is.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, have him one have him and Billy on same time.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I met him in I met him in life,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: real life a couple of times. Billy Carson. Yeah, yeah,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's one of the reason why I
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: even spoke to him and has to come on the
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: show as I met him in person. Yeah, all right, continue.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I think that another thing that is, uh is interesting
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: about the moon, the whole moon matrix idea that actually
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: does lend some credence to it is the Kordilewski clouds
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: that were Are you familiar with those at all?
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: No?
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: So, uh you know how uh self organizing dusty plant
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: plasmas in a laboratory are they show signs of sentience,
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: so they eat electricity. They organize into various shapes like
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: helical structures, tauruses. But most importantly, they misbehave. If you
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: ever wonder why the military has not weaponized plasma, it's
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: very simply because they can't. It doesn't cooperate and it'll
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: actually leave. Sometimes when they're in a clean environment and
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: they have to do a certain experiment, plasma will poop
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: out its own little grain of dust from nothing and
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: ruin the whole experiment.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: Because it's in a clean room. There's all ball lightning.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: Will shoot off at right angles and go into an airplane,
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: go through brick walls. Plasma does not give a fuck
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: about what we're doing. And also, most importantly UAPs, that
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: is the plasma orbs that we're seeing that shoot down
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: the drones and stuff. They're sentient, they're alive. They cause
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: crop circles, but well that's for a different time. But
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: these balls of light are alive. The rows of crew
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: called them archangels. Said that the bigger they are, the
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: more powerful they are. They say that they are the
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: elohem spirits of the Sun. They break off of the Sun.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: They come to Earth to snoop around and they, for
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: the love of God, can't figure out why. But manly
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: p Hall goes on about it. There's a lot to
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: indicate that these orbs, these plasma orbs, are alive, sentient,
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: aware of us. In fact, the reason we're alive is
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: because of plasma.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: It.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: You know, the brain is just dead matter unless it's
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: electrically ignited. You know, all the components are still there.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: With a dead brain, it's not on unless there's electricity.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: That it shows that this plasma, this electricity seems to
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: be what the soul is. So it's no wonder that
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: the universe is ninety nine percent plasma.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: But digress, there are.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Two, and this is not speculation, two gigantic, nine times
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: the size of Earth, plasma clouds, self organizing dusty plasma
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: orbs that are oblong, they're bean shaped. They're right next
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: to the moon, and they're you know, the same way
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: that the Moon always faces us the same way and
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: never turns. And that's weird. These two plasma clouds, which
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: can be detected with infrared light or i'm sorry, polarized light,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: are invisible to us. But they're there, and they're locked
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: in at sixty degrees from the Earth and the Moon relationship,
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: and they never move from there. We have no idea
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: how long they've been there, and it's been it's they
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: are so weird that no one really talks about it.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: But it's k O r d y l E w
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: s Ki. They call it Cordelevski because they don't have
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: wus Russian and that's where they whatever. But they they
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: show signs that kind of material plasma, which is just
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: ionized protons without So what plasma is is there's no atoms.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: So in order for something to become hard and have weight,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: and a proton and a neutron meet together and electron
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: locks it in, and then a ratio of light and
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: magnetism that is one over one hundred and thirty seven
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: specifically meets it at the intersection of observation and then
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: boom locks in. You can't just have a whole bunch
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: of subatomic particles clump.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: Together all of a sudden.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: It's matter. No amounts of SubTime particles becomes hard material
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: unless that recipe comes into place. That's not speculation. That's
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: what they're looking at. And so what plasma is is
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: essentially dense lots of material not material but energy. The superpositions,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: protons loose, they're not bound, and it's essentially invisible to us,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: but it's there, and these Cordileski clouds are locked into
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: the Moon and nobody knows why as far as we know,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: as Robert Temple has in the New Science of Heaven,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Robert Temple talks about they've probably been recording Earth since
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: the very beginning of everything, and that's why they're locked
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: into the moon. Where this gets creepy is when you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: look into the ancient texts that seem to talk about it.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: So in the Gnostics, they, for example, they talk about
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: Metatron and his brother hanging out on either side of
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: the moon, and they are balls of light that can
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: manifest and come visit us as angels angles of light.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: In Egyptian mythology, the moon is carried by a canoe,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: but no one really tells you why. It's because the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: canoe represented the fact that there was the essence of
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: moisture where the moon was inhabited, and that there were
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: now and it shares this part of Judaism. And Judaism
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: you have the what's called the two powers of Heaven
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: and they reside on the brink of the celestial realm.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Basically that veal that you would see in uh narcissism,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: sorry veil that uh you know where they say, outside
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: of the orbit of Saturn, the deni ergosis, chaos, the ploroma.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Whatever it is.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: There's there's uh, the seven heavens. There's layers orbits of
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: the planets, so to speak. There it's not necessarily a
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: boundary as much as it is. Ah. It's not like
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: a physical container of location. It's it's uh, it's it's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: a superposition, so it's not like distance and space. It's
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: more of a like a in a in a data
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: center or a video game. It'd be like positions of information. Nevertheless,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: they didn't say that heart. But in Judaism, the two
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: powers of Heaven are on the threshold of between our
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: material world and the heavens, which is what most likely
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: the moon represents throughout all of it is that brain
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: that threshold of leaving the uh, the material world, so
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: to speak, and then it gets less dense as you go,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: or a more dense if your spirit, so to speak.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: There's a bunch a bunch of them that refer to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: these two buddies brothers that are locked in on either side,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: sometimes specifically on the other side, on either side of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: the moon. How we're not talking about this is is
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: like blowing my mind. I know we're talking about it,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: but the Kordilevsky clouds are important. And I have this wild,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: unhinged speculation, kind of gut feeling thing that, Okay, if
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: an ascended mass, a zen master was to find Nirvana
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: and bring it down to Earth, and then that's contagious
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: morphic resonance. Right now, it's like a match. It's going
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: to catch to all the other creatures. Right if you
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: are an arconic force, like a demiurge, and you want
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: that to be regulated, you don't want that to happen again,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: because not only is it a threat to you, but
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: it's a cosmic catastrophe for the material world, which is
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: meant to be alchemized and to spirit. You would not
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: want the soul, the water memory of Lauta or jung
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Se or Jack Black, these ascended masters. You wouldn't want
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: them to be contagious to humanity. And if they die,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: their memory, which is stored in water, would circulate back
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: into the Earth realm whenever their plasmatic soul goes back
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: to the Sun. If you wanted to isolate that, you
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: would require right outside of the Earth boundary a data center,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: a moisture collecting plasmatic base where they can store the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: ascended master's memory as to not be contagious to the
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: rest of humanity. That way, you can keep on keep
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: on munching on them, if you know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: I know that's the part where it gets a little negative,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: but it's worth speculation.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: But that almost looks like it feeds into We were
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: talking about this before we came on on the theory
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: of the Earth being a prison. Yeah.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: Right, it's dangerously close to the prison planet thing. And
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: so there's this guy, Eric P. Anthony, and he writes
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: he wrote this book called Nous Solace and I'm in
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: the middle of it right now. Passage and spiritual spiritual alchemy.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Here's a picture of him right there or whatever. He's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: just like us. He's an architect. He has a day job.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: For whatever reason, the books aren't catching on because, as
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: you know, the more truth you are, you know. But
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: he gets out, he gets out there, but I think
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: he's backed up. Nevertheless, his idea of the prison planet
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: is not what these guys are talking about, the Georgiannis
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: and the Reddit and whatnot. He talks about the Earth
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: monad project, and the way he describes it is that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: we have the ability to as one creature, realize bliss
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: and then alchemize into spirit, basically where the sofia becomes
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: what we are and we come unhinged from the arconic.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: Because in the in the Gnostics, it's made clear that
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: our vessel is built by arcans and the planetary bodies
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: built plants, animals, the earth, all that stuff in human
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: vessels for the fariest reasons. But we are able to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: come and hinstrum that. But or we can realize what's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: called I think it's called like Christ's consciousness or like
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: mortal physical immortality, which is where the alchemists would come
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: into this conversation and say that you can imbue dead matter,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: let into gold, into spirit, or let into gold, so
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: to speak, and you can. Basically, the idea of Christ
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: is right in the middle between Satan and Lucifer, where
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: Lucifer is all spirit, Satan is all material, and people
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: can tend to get that one way or the other.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: But Christ be in the middle, was saying don't go
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: all spirit, don't go all woo woo, and also don't
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: go all earthly. That's you know. But when you find
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: the center, the un and in the middle there the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: male and female, you you find this like this, this
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: inner gold, the sun, the Elohim so to speak, within,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: and the all of these cosmic various cosmic beings whatever
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: you want to call them. He he runs on the
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: list of the book too. But let's just for example,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: say Mara or Arkans. They are not only threatened by that,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: but it's not a jealousy thing. In the Nasti Gospels
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: they call it envy, but they the word is loose
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: into English as envy. It's a concern. It's an anxiety
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: to the Arkans because if we realize physical immortality, it's
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: a win for everybody. But if we don't, this is
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: where it gets weird. Our technology, our knowledge, our illusion.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: Our progress, our going forth will.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: Accelerate past what our spirit's capable of regulating, and we
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: become all male. So our technologist, say, for example AI,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: we don't have enough wisdom and female spirit and right
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: brain to know what to do with AI. So now
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: they're using it for surveillance it's a fucking catastrophe. This
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: was literally the concern of these cosmic beings that our
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: technological prowess, our knowledge, would accelerate faster than our wisdom would,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: and if we can do both simultaneously, everything's all good.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: But if we forget spirit and advance technologically, apparently it's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: got a ripple effect throughout the cosmos and it eats
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: everything alive like a cancer, like a parasite, so to speak,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: which would literally be a parasite if you look at
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: what our so called elite class is. I mean, look
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: what politicians and tech companies are. They can't exist on
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: their own. They're parasites. They can't exist unless we let
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: the soon speed off of us.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: So so is that a soul trap?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: I don't think so, but it's real easy to see
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: it that way. Digress.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Is that that book that you just mentioned that guy
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: mentioned in.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: It, Dude, I haven't got there yet. I've had him
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: on the show. Have I'll hook you up have him
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: on the show, Dude. He is more of a of
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: a of a doctor justin Sledge than he is of
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: of my type of guy when it comes to this stuff.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: But for the same reason he's he'd be perfect to
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: come on your show. He's a little bit more wild
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: than than Justin. But if you love Justin, and we do,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: you'll you'll love Eric Eric Anthony. It's great.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, I would assume because noos So now
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: it's however you want to pronounce it. That's part of
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: the Plutonis came up with that in the emanations. So
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: I was assuming. I'm assuming he must be a Neoplatonist
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: or Playton. Yeah, yeah, it makes sense.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he takes, he extrapolates from everything and then kind
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: of makes his own mythology from that. He borrows from
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: a little bit everything, which is my kind of that's
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: my kind of tinfoil hat.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: There is where where you don't have one particular.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Game, you know, No, I get that. I think that's
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: what I got me involved in, like the type of
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: magic I was into, especially like.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: Book Get Eric Anthony on. Get Cassie Fox on. Dude.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I already hit her up to book her. Yeah,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for her to.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: She is going to be the next voice when it
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: comes to Enoch and Nephelim.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: That's her. Get ready to hear her name?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, that was an impressive video she sent me.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: Dude, she's on it, bro.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: So she's she's digging up she's digging up Greek and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: whatever Coptic records and stuff like that and looking at
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: each word and comparing it to the translations and finding out.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Dude, one of the biggest examples, and I'd hate to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: be a spoiler here, but you know how the Nephelin
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: were born because fallen angels are watchers impregnated human women.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: And you're like, well, I thought they were the good guys.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: I thought they were right. It was Arkans, and dude,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: it was the waters were muddied during the translations. Either
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: that or the Arkans lied and said that they were watchers,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: which would be easy to do to humans.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: You can lie to a dog, you know.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: And so there's dude, she's onto something because the ship
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: that she's bringing up in Enoch clarifies a lot of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: holes in the story that we've had so far that
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: make it that make it weird in the first place.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden it starts to lock in.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I was impressed with the thing that
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: she made and everything. It was like, damn, yeah, nice, nice,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah, there was some deep ship. You just
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: said to a couple more things do yeah, yeah, yeah, please.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: Which I'm open. Please interrupt me, by the way. That's
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: I I tend. I tend to rants. But uh so.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: And and the book Editedorpa, which is about hollow Earth, uh.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: Which I'm all, I'm all about it.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: There's a scientist in at a Doorpa who was driven
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: crazy about the existence of gravitation. He has no idea
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: what gravitation is. It's an old, old book before we
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: have quantum physics. Any of this right, and a lot
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: of our scientific mainstays of today came from this book,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: even though they won't admit it. But it was a
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: very advanced science. People wrote letters to the author like
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: how did you know this? And speak it as such?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Whatever?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: Fast forward to today. Take a theory of everything. Everybody's
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: got their own scientific theory of everything, trying to make
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: it all fit into one equation. Yadya. When you have relativity,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: everything special relativity, any kind of relativity, everything works, The
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: math works all the way around it, except for gravity.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: The Hedron collider, the Higgs boson. They can detect the
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: god particle, they can detect electromagnetic shapes, they can hear,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: voices come whatever. They The only thing they can't produce
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: from that gigantic machine is gravity quantum physics. It's the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: closest we've come to have in a theory for why
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: anything at all except gravity you can't do. It's gravity
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: won't fit into anything. It gets really weird. If you
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: run all of those models and take out the idea
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: of EarthBeat, of reality being three D and apply it
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: to reality being two dimensional, you don't need gravity anymore
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: and everything works. You think I'm making it up. Look,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: thatsh it up. They don't talk about it. It's fucking crazy, dude.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: So now apply that to the moon thing. It seems
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: as if we might be projected, like there is a say, Brahma,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: a dreamer projecting onto a screen reality as we know it,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: or the surface of a black hole, which could be
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: the same thing.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: It's really interesting. I've thought like to an extent that,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Like I even said before that it's reflective. Yeah, if
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I'd wonder like if it is kind of projecting something.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: And the the double split slid experiment shows that we
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: tend to project reality. Again, they cover that up with
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: the mini world's theory.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: But well, if the moon's projecting something and we observe it,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: then that would make it real.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, yeah, there's something to it. It's uh, there's
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: something strange. And the more you break it down, it
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: seems that goes back to the you can see down
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: but you can't see up thing. You know, if you're
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: looking at a movie in the movie theater, very rarely
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: would you turn around and see where it's you know,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: where it's coming from, especially if you're you know, on
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: the screen. And I think that that might be what
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: Jesus Christ was teaching all along, is how to break
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: the fourth wall and look off of the screen. Because
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: the more science pours in, it shows that we are
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: in a two demential reality, which can be kind of heartbreaking.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: But so what if, like like an Enoch, Uh, it
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: shows that we were created not I hate the word experiment,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: but as a project, as a sort of like to see,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: not to see what would happen, but in order to
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: grow right. Uh. Like in the book of Job God,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: the all, you know, the good guy tortures job you know,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: and so the idea there is that he wants to
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: experience suffering because he can't experience suffering. Therefore he can't
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: be whole. He lives in pure bliss. There's no way
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: for him to have the ya yang to his yin
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: until he's able to experience suffering. So he's got to
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: go through flesh in order to absolve that. To become
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: whole in the first place, you know, to do something hard.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: Look so and then think about Sophia. The reason what
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: got her in trouble in the first place was that
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: she wanted to create on her own accord. To create
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: on her own accord, people think, oh, she ditched the monads.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: She'd like to go without the father, right, Remember what
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: the father is though, pure sentience, pure consciousness. There's not
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: like she just went away from the dude. She had
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: to go into amnesia and the moment she was with
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: forgetting basically shedding her garments, so to speak, whenever she
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: was without her primordial wisdom?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: Can I create while I have amnesia?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: Do I have that capacity? And we want to do
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: something hard? If anyone who's ever played a video game
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: or watched a very difficult movie, is because we want
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: to we go mountain climbing or whatever, is because we
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: want to do something hard. That's the whole idea to it.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: There's no reason I mean, experience, you know, bliss you
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: know is nice, but it's it's boring. Utopia is boring.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: So we're always trying to push our own capacity to
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: see what we can handle. That's what this entire damn
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: thing seems to be coming down to. And so if anything,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: let's say it is a moon matrix, Let's say it
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: is a soul recycler, let's say it's a prison planet,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: all that stuff, right, just hypothetically, Sure, that's what it
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: all points to, right, take a step back, and you
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: find out in the long game, it's because we signed
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: up for it, we were doing it on purpose to
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: do something hard.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: Well, then you have a little bit.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: Of perspective there and you can kind of kind of breathe,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: you know. But that's the idea of the amnesia is
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: if we've realized certainly certainly that that is the case,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: it spoils the experiment, you know, it spoils the uh,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: the purpose of it being hard in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of this stuff you even you
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: just said, even down to the amnesia with a different character. Uh,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, are you with David Lynchman, Yes, at all.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I think the Twin Peaks season three and part of
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: season two totally covered a lot of the stuff you said,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Like even when he uh season three when it shows
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: the fire man like floating above in the air and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: there's like the silver screen, and then they got the
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: then they got the curtains that you have to open
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: up kind of like the veil. Then you got the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: silver screen, you got something projecting onto that, and then
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: after like the guy's done floating around, some golden orb
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: comes out and then like it it goes into this
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: thing that looks like it would be if you were
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: in an outer space and looking down, and then it
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: drops like this jewel down to Earth. But like a
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: lot of the stuff you just said right there, it
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: was like a really think like redone in season three
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: of Twin Peas, dude.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: I need to I didn't know there was a three
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: and I didn't I knew season two. I need to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: check that out.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lady who gets amnesia. Really yeah, red head,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: redhead that has a black uh has a patch over
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: ari to a black patch over a eye. Yeah at yeah,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: How many seasons it had? Three seasons. I didn't. I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: have not seen that show since it first came out. Yes,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: I'm dating myself and I have to go back and
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: watch it again.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: Dude, I think Letz was onto something, man and not
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: to get to tenfold on you.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: He was admitted to be did to that ship.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he was protecting us from something, because when
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: he died is when they started rolling out data centers.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: And there's some other unmentionables that I don't even want
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: to bring up, but yeah, we went downhill after Lynch.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: When did he pass? I didn't even know he passed.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: When did he pass?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: About two years ago?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Recent? No, Actually, the data center's been coming out Okay,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: the data centers have been rolling out on the on
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: the low, well not so much on the low, but
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: it has been coming out ever since before I was born.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: Really, yeah, it's always secretive until they can't.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: They weren't secretive of See this is the thing you
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: hide things in plane sight, right, they weren't secretive of it.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: We've had at least I think two in New York
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: City in Manhattan before I was born, before they finished
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: the first original Twin Towers. Really, yes, it was like
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen maybe fifties sixties. Yeah, that was built.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: That's interesting because that was way before AI as far
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: as I know, unless AI was being worked on before
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: that maybe.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: But remember the data centers also held Remember at that time,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: what was the size of a computer?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: I guess like a house?
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: Right, it was bigger than a house, right, the mainframe alone.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: This has been around. They've just been fine tuning it
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: while we were distracted, as per usual.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Right, Yo, you know what's really interesting? Uh fuck, I
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: already forgot the name of the movie. Uh the kid
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: from Ferris Buel's Day Off. He was in some movie. Yeah, Yo,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: that shit was almost kind of like dealing with AI
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: back then if you think about it, like the way
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: he was like playing uh war games. Okay, think about
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: that and how long ago was that? And that was
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: basically you know, the world was going to start nuclear
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: war over fucking AI playing video.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: Technically they've been talking about AI before then. And you
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: you skipped the epic movie before War Games came out,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Odyssey with the one with the it's it's it's the
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: famous with I may have gotten the name wrong, it's
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: the one with the blinking light.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, two thousand and one a space on
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: a seat.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hell that's Ai.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: Is it is Ai?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: He focks them all over, he starts killing them off.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I forgot.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: He's dropping and everything on everybody.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: Dude, that's the most haunting ship. He's like, sorry, Dave, oh.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Yo, what he said? Pull this shit out? And he's like,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: I could feel it. I could feel it, like he
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: actually feels his He said he's he can feel him
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: himself losing his mind. The AI says that I can
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: feel it, dude. He's pulling out his memory chips.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: A couple of his movie makers. Man, they dropped a
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: couple hints. You see a Trumman show, right.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's it. These show, the shows that you're mentioning,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: they're epic, but they're scary on such a level that's
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: not even it's not even horror. It's like a man
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: until scared that you're like, I would never be able
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: to function in that environment.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: It gives you nightmares, but it's a nightmares that you
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: won't admit to. I'll admit to it, but no one
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: will admit to it.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: That's what that is so frightening about Red Book. Carl
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: Jung's red Book.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: Is that it's not belligerently a horror, but uh, the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: the horror is within you, with things that you've been
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: hiding from yourself that you don't realize that were scary.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like, well, okay, uh the new the
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: new movie back Rooms was great at capturing that.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: But I didn't see it.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: That's brand new, but I recommend it. And the guy
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: who made it.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: Was a kid, so that's all about it. He broke
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: through and the gatekeepers of Hollywood. That's a whole nother story.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: But it's awesome. But uh, oh, shoot, the movie what
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: was the movie that you just mentioned right after? Right
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: after that man about the movie that shows you yourself
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: and and the.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: That's you said, the back Rooms? What what was it?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: It was the Coop?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I forgot which one. It is to someone
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: in the chest probably losing their mind because they they
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: heard it and remember it now if maybe they can
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: save us.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: But that wames, I.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: Guess like that. I didn't. I didn't see that one.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: But that's that's the best kind of I think psychological
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: like terror is what I think it'd be called more
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: of a terror thing because uh, okay, So for example,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: with back rooms. Uh and I won't give a spoiler,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: but the the kind of general idea of it is
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: that something gets a hold of the psyche and then
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: makes copies of it. Oh Truman Show. Okay, so let's
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: we'll come back to that. But it makes copies of it,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: and then you, the the person, the person watching the
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: movie has to face those copies of itself that they
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: got just a little bit wrong. And it's it's the
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: aspects that you were not aware of, and that's it's
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: not so but so okay. In Truman Show. The reason
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: I love this movie so much is because there's obviously
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: there's the belligerent symbolism like serious falling out of the sky.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: It's like a light that used to be a scar,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: a star on a set, which goes back to you
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: know all the myths, right, But if you watch it
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: again after reading the Gnostic texts, the audience at home
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: watching are the angels in heaven hoping that true humanity
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: will realize their place in the universe and thus be
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: able to leave. And Christoph is off of his Christ
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: but just off, so that would be like the demiurge, right,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: He's hiding in the moon by the way which you know,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: a man in the moon. There's some lower there. And
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: the actors on sets make a perfect allegory for artcuns
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: because the actors on set, they're not evil, they're not mean,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: but they're feeding. The reason they're paid, the reason they
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: get a paycheck and can eat, is because Truman exists
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: and is oblivious to them. It's the most perfect gnostic allegory.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: And they made it into a comedy. Dude, just ah perfect. Oh.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: The woman who wakes up Truman from his slumber is
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: named Sylvia, and she Sophia, Sylvia Sofia. Dude, whoever wrote
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: that movie is they? They They were on it before
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: everybody else was.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: They were a magician and they were just hiding it.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: Wall. Do you think that was intentional or accidental symbolism?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: I think the Carl Jung and me would say that
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: there's archetypes there that accidentally keep reoccurring, like the hero's
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: journey in Star Wars Ferris Bueller, all you know, and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: so we are going to continue the Prometheus figure that
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: wakes up gives gifts of whatever knowledge. I think that
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: there are archetypes that reoccur in movies accidentally that would
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: be like a lot of Lynch too, and you're just
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: they're just tapped in, you know, their creative force makes
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: it come out. But man, with Truman show though, remember
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: the light that fell out of the sky was literally
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: had a label on it that said serious, Like you know,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: so it's almost too. I think there's a little bit
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: of both going on though. For sure. I think fight
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: Club is like that. Dude, check this out. Watch Ferris
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: Bueller again. After watch seen fight Club and realize you've
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: never seen Cameron's parents, You've never seen Cameron's life, you've
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: never seen his girlfriend.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Yo, I do things about that where I was like,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: I actually started to look at it. Even the same
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: ship with the chick right or did she the girl
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: he was with them? There were certain things I noticed.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, you never see anything, right, Yeah, And.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: Cameron is the shadow archetype of Ferris, or Ferris is
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: the lights within Cameron. So it's it's dude, it's interesting.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: And even when they're walking, he's talking and walking with
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: the girl, and he was like, He's like, man, you know,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: Ferris just gets away with anything, And uh, you know,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: if I could just live like that like permanently, that
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: that'd be the way to go. He's he's stitching school,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: and he's up on he's in a parade, dancing and
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: singing now and and and no one can see him.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: It's not like he's not going to get caught.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: He can't get caught. He's untouchable. He doesn't exist. It's dude,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: it's I love it. It's good now that with what
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: Eric is saying, that could have been maybe an accident,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: but it's a brilliant little accident.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: So you're basically saying the eighties in the late seventies
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: was basically a lot of people awakening and people just
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: putting it out there and letting us know.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: I think the last good movie was Jurassic Park, and
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't think there's any allegory in
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: that one besides maybe a reptilian reference or something. I
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: But no, if you want to put cloning into it
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: and all that doesn't oh yeah.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fall into playing god and doing things for human
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: amusement to ooh yeah, Okay, they say you could find.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: A little bit, so that would be.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: Right, right, So that would I think certainly be an
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: accidental symbolism. But I mean again, you're in that flow state.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: That's that's the kind of artwork that I think, uh
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: it that it is the best kind is they get
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: into a flow state. And that's like my favorite my
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: favorite musical artist is twenty one Pilots and and don't
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: be fooled by the singles. You know, they make pop
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: songs for the radio, but you get the record and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: there there's all chemical treatises throughout them. And and when
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: you ask Tyler Joseph, who you know, how do you
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: write it songs? He goes, don't ask me. I just
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: I walk in the studio and it falls out of me.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: You know. It's that it's kind of like the flow
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: state that it makes the best the best artwork.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: It's a Jimmy Page said that about Stayway to Heaven
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: when he wrote it at Croley's house. Really they said,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: just like fucking float right out of them.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh in the the end of Stairway to Heaven,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: and I use it in the soundtrack of Friday's video
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: coming Out. The melody they go that is an ancient
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: like chant, Celtic chant. It's a death chant. And uh
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: so I I I found that out actually from a
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: meme or something, dude.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: And recently I came across that it was like holy yeah.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: On the soundtrack of the Moon video coming out Friday.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: Throughout it, I put the.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: Oh you did it yourself? Right? Oh yeah, yeah, nice nice?
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: Oh that's the that's the theme.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: And Frozen too, right and Frozen Yeah, that's because that's
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: what I saw on the thing. That goes to show
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: you how far reaching some of these occult themes are
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: even into uh, I mean like Disney movies and stuff,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: which that's there's something there's something evil going on over
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: there in Disney Holy Ship, which I don't even have
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: to You guys already know what I'm talking about.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bring it back to the moon though. So we're talking,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: we were talking about how reflective it is. I'm sorry,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: hold on, how reflective you know, how it's supposed to
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: be projecting onto us. What do you think about because
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of these movies occurrences thought frames taking our
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: way social media. It's shown back then because social media
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: wasn't popular back then. That is almost like a universal
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: thought process that happens to everybody almost simultaneously. Yes, but
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: it shows in the artwork. So do you think the moon.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: Also is is connecting us in a collective mind a
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: way of thinking, like we're all connected to a central
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: form and it's all coming down here on Earth. I
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: don't hope I explained that correctly.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: No, Yeah, that's perfect. I love the question because there's like,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: there's two ways to answer it, I think and uh
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: and by the way, anything I answer is just going
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: to be speculation. You know that. It's just like anything else.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: But I don't think we have a choice because we
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: all have the same biology, and we all have the
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: same we all we're all sharing the same air and water,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: and with small differences in attributes, we're basically all the
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: same thing. If you zoom out, you we're a mold
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: on a rock, you know. No, I don't mean that
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: in a degrading way, Like, but if you zoom out
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: far enough, people move in mass. So why would the
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: psyche of people being a different That's why mass hysteria,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: I think is such a problem. And we've seen a
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: little bit of that recently. But with the social media thing,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: I think they they see how easy easily that can
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: be set on fire, and they take advantage of it,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: for sure, But then at the same time, there's huge
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: movements right now against data centers and people are coming
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: together to there's like Bulgaria or something like that. I forgot,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: I get the country wrong. But they just overthrew their
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: government and they did it overnight and everybody went to
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: work the next day, and they're quickly now realizing that
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: they didn't need it in the first place. We think
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: that if the government goes away, that everything's shut down.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: Well remember every time ever that the government's been shut
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: down recently, everybody goes to work. It has not been necessary.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: But I digress. But people thinking it herds can be bad.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: And I think biologically the moon has a lot to
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: do with that, certainly does. And then our psyche is,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: you know, I would say, like a reflection of our
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: biology if we can't you know, get past it and
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: transcend it, you know. But the very fact of the
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: matter is that everything eats. And that's kind of the
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: idea and this gnostic thing is like the world. The
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: world is beautiful, you know, mountains and sunsets and flowers,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: fibonacci sequins and bees and and uh, it's there's beauty.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of beauty obviously, but it's all in
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: the food chain, whereas in the pleroma, everything's running parallel
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: and there's no end. It's everything's eternal or boros or whatever.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: But here on earth, the most beautiful thing that there
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: is is still in the food chain. You could be
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: a most guiltless vegan on earth, but you still have
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: to rip something out of the ground, out of its
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: home and chew it and kill it and death so
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: that no matter what it's, it's always we're in the
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: food sure shain. And that's where it gets a little
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: bit where you can't ignore the darkness because love and light,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: this love and light, that's great. Uh uh, And it's
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 4: I do believe in optimism, but we can we can
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: decide if that food chain, the death the inevitable part
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: of what ends everything in this world, If things temporary
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: is a bad thing or a good thing, because you
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: can think about it as an end if you want to,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: or you can think about it as passing the torch
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: to something you know greater than yourself. And if the
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: herd herds the wrong word, if the if the masses,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: if the whatever came like to that, like acceptance of
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: everything is temporary, then we could all move simultaneously in
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: that direction all of a sudden, like we're not a
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: cancer anymore. We're more of a floral something or whatever.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: You know. We know that we're going to die, but
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: we sacrifice. What's that quote, a man who plants a tree,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: knowing that he'll never sit in its shade, has started
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: to has began to understand the meaning of life or
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: something like that. Whatever it is. Yeah, it's something like that.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: And the t of a bear around for that. Yeah,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: So we.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: Got a break off of being individual that will end
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: and realize that it's just it's a collective thing, and
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: we are programmed to think that a herd mentality gets
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: rapidly out of control like a fire. You know, in
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: every Disney movie and in school in sci fi, they
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: all say the same thing. If humanity wasn't so destructive
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: and warmongering, then we could, you know, we could whatever
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: the thing is to transcend or whatever. And I'm over here, like,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: I don't nobody I know it is war mongering as
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: far as I can tell.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: It's the same six families for the last five times.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: You can have something I wanted to throw in Eric,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: do you have to do? You have to leave yet?
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: So you can say goodbye.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta I gotta jump off. This would be
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: a good time. Don't stop on my account though, Joey,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: it was great to meet you, Nick and Judith. It
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: was great to see again, and I'll catch you guys next.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Time very much. Another thing I did want to add
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: in something Judith that you had asked, I guess if
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: those things could really influence humanity. I think if you
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: start looking at it, and I kind of tried to
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: touch on it a little bit, I think with like
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: the lunar stuff and even the eclipses those things, you know,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: eclipses even in a sense as well, but like with
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: the moon and the sun, they have given us systems
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: and increments for us to judge time in different cycles
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: of it. So if you think about it now, that
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: has come with now all these different stories, pantheons, you know,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: gods for this and that, like those things, actually the
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: way that they go through the sky has given us
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: the whole world. It's fucking basics, you know. I think
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: in a sense if you really look at it, and again,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: like the light coming off of the moon, depending on
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: what phase the moon is in, that gets its own story,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: its own cycles. That's how it even determines the cycle.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: It's by the new moon, the full moon, and then
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: the light coming off the sun is what's giving us
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: energy and growth and all that. Like, if you take
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: those two things and the fact that light is coming
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: off of them, you get the whole time structure that
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: we're in and the belief of how we exist. Yeah,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: so it's definitely influenced humanity.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: The druids would, uh, but they would draw.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: The guys who made Stonehenge and tracked eclipses would draw
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: the crescent moon on their hands and whenever the new
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: moon came through, they would be like, you see, it's
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: under no obligation to be the same as it was
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: five minutes ago, and either as our entire.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: World, Like you get months from the moon, but you
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: get like, you know, seasons from the song. You know,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: all these different types of interlaying cycles from both of
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: those planets, and then all the stories that come with
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: that with them trying to understand it in the past
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: is what's given us everything that we live on today.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: If you think about it, if you really think about
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: that shit, I.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: Think everything comes from the zodiac, dude, Like, like all
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: of the esoteric comes from the zodiac. So it's no
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: wonder they try to taint astrology with horoscopes and Sylvia
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: Brown's and you know that kind of stuff.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: They're trying to psych us out from ascending and going
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: through the moon to ascend to our next plane.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, no, it's that's I think that's that's the
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: idea they they wanted. They want us to be like cattle,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: you know, and uh, they even have a word for that.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: But see, but that's what I wanted to tell you.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: You said you didn't want to use the term herd mentality.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, actually, that's the perfect one.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it works maybe uh flock No, damn it, they
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: took that word too. Well, what are we doing?
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: But if flock flock is accepted though, Yeah, that's interesting.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: Was there anything I want?
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: You want a quick bat ship?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: Crazy ones gets the post thing real quick before we go. Ye.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: So do you remember my video called Ring Makers of Saturn? No?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: All right, I remember that book from back in the day.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, so I was obsessed with this Ring Makers
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: of Saturn. Norman Bergen worked for NASA and he stole
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: these pictures of Saturn that where there's ring termination and
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: still no one's ever figured out how it could possibly
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: be that these rings are Sometimes when you go up
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: to Saturn, the rings are incomplete, and then they could
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: they watched these these rods, gigantic rods in space go
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: through and seed the rings of Saturn, and they they
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: completed the rings and the rings would be different next time.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: And there's tons of pictures of them. He stole as
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: many as he could, but I break them all down
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: and ring makers of Saturn. There's I didn't get it that.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: It was a long episode, so I didn't get a
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: chance to cover everything.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: And they don't know what the what those rods are.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing that years ago, but they and it
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: quietly disappeared.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes away pretty quick, and the book came
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: out of being published and everything, and now it becomes
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: like a rare thing or whatever. But along with stealing
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: photographs of Saturn, he also stole pictures of the backside
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: of the Moon that we can't see. And it's fucking crazy, dude.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: So NASA blurs all photos of the Moon on the backside.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: They're they're locked down. They don't release them unless they're censored.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: And Norman has pictures of the back of the moon
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: and then recreates them in such a way to show
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: that there's something really a different version of it. It's
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: really strange. And he mapped out all of these particular
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: symmetrical craters going around this main hole in the moon
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: that's on the back side, and came to a conclusion
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: that those rods, those those electromagnetic vehicles that are harvesting
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 4: or or planting the rings of Saturn, they come to
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: the Moon every so often and they refill it. Now,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: this is where it's it comes right off the hinges.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: But that's the thing about Norman.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: Is he he was not a TikTok sensation or whether
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: he was a NASA scientist who quit because he was
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 4: finding stuff that they would not would not allow.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 5: This is obviously a recreation.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know you.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Know what that feels, right, do you know the theory that.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: Something about it?
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So he mapped it out and again that that
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: is what makes it so weird that the moon that
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: that it never turns from us. And I invite anybody
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: to stop and think about that for a second. If
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: you take a top and you spin it, you know
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: it's gonna have warbles and wobbles. You can have a
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: perfectly flat surface and spin it exta absolutely perfectly. But
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 4: due to the law of entropy, eventually that top will
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: wobble and do start to wear. It's unpredictable, and entropy
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: is on for the moon to not ever even turn.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: From one side.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 4: It's it's it's they they put a word on it,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: a term, They give it a term. They call it
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: tidle locking. And then by having a name, it creates
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: a sensation of normalcy and it's it ain't normal. But
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 4: with what Norman talks about with electromagnetic vehicles in the
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: back of the moon, it starts to it's it starts
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 4: to get a little wacky, and uh, it's I think
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: it's worth exploring.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: It's definitely interesting stuff. I mean I remember coming across
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: that book. Oh god, probably back in twenty eleven or twelve. Yeah,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I go. I remember back then. I don't
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: think it was like popular enough for people to start
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: I guess reprinting or they're taking event I don't know
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: what it was. But yo, if you found like an
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: actual copy of that online to buy, it was like
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: thousands of dollars because it was so fucking right.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, lucky. I remember at half price books.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh nice, nice nice.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask is it's still in print?
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: Because I was like, how did he get away with
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: getting that published?
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: Right? A very rare book?
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: Actually what it's a very rare book.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: But nevertheless people people made scans of it and put
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: them on put those online, and then even on on
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: on my video, I do full screen you know, showing
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: like what's going on or whatever. So I think at
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: a certain point they realized that pushing it down only
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: creates more controversy martyrrism, and they stop. I mean, David
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: Ike got his YouTube channel back because they realized that
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: the most thing, that the most they could do to
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: give him credibility would be to silence him because his
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: fan base exploded when they deplatformed him, and that it
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: speaks volumes, you know.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, I remember that. I remember
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: when that shit came down. Actually, I still watched David
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't say religious, you know, religiously, but I
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: did watch his stuff oftenly back then. Yeah, yeah, I
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: like it. I like some of his work.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: Actually, he's one of the og didn't care what anybody thinks,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 4: you know, I think that.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: Right with that, I think like I was saying in
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: the group text before. I think he says a lot
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: more than people realize. I think he Pepper's in a gnosticism.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: For people who are into the occult, they totally see
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: what the fuck he's saying.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 4: He was late to Narstissism, and that's what's fascinating. All
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 4: of his core theories were in place already before he
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: found Narstissism. And then he was like, oh dude, this
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: is I mean, he gives a talk about it where
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: I forgot. I think it's it's on YouTube. It's called
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: like Saturn Moon Matrix something or another.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a great series.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 4: I gotta say this entire chat. I said a lot
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 4: of different stuff than I did. But to be clear,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 4: he is the father of the moon Matrix entire lore,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: you know, but he made He's like, I've been putting
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 4: these books out, these books. He's like, this date right
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: now as I'm giving this talk, my books are out,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 4: and I just learned about Narscissism a month ago, and
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 4: check this out and throws everything up on the screener
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: and you're like, damn. You know. And by the way,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 4: the Nazi Gospels were found in nineteen forty five, So
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: I mean that shit was new to everybody.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I often had wondered just even other things that
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: they've come across in the Middle East. I even wonder like,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: how if certain orders, like even the Oto and the
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Golden Down, if the people who started them would have
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: been around longer, with things maybe a little different because
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: they would have had more stuff to incorporate or with
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: different ways of looking at things.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: Right, I wish that Manly P.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: Hall uh and Carl Jung and.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, right, imagine if those guys were around until
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: like the sixties and seventies, right, right, A.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: Lot of quantum physicists went to Carl Jung to as
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: a as a consultant, and uh, there's that's a whole thing.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've been meaning to touch on it, but
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: there's entire stories about quantum physicists getting the results and
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 4: going we can't handle this and went straight to Jung.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: It is wild.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: That is interesting.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: The guy who discovered though one over one it's called
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: the fine structure constant one over one point thirty. It's
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: one over one hundred and thirty seven, which is the
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: ratio of lights to electromagnetism. That you need for a
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: matter to come into existence from nothingness from SubTime with particles. Right,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: it's a very specific, very specific number, and he had
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: no answers for it. But he kept on bothering himself
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: with the alchemists that kept on referencings referencing threes and sevens.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: And he was like, Okay, I hate to do this,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: but you're the only guy.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: Let's talk. And Yung was cool about it. Actually, Jung
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 4: sent one of his students first, and then that pissed
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: off the scientist and he was like, I don't want
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 4: to talk to your student, all right, and you was like, no,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: you're not understanding. He was like, I'll taint your theory.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: He's like, I have a powerful theorem here and if
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: I add anything to it, it's gonna run. And he
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: didn't understand, but he caught onto it. He's like, that's
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: why I'm sending my student. And then we'll talk to
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: my student and I won't taint your theory and you
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: won't taint mine, and then we'll meet. It's that's a
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: whole story that don't matter. But I'm dying now because
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: I can't remember the quantum physicist name. But he was
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: the guy who famously said, Uh, when I die, the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: first question I'll have will be why the fine structure constant?
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: And it's probably going to be the devil. That was
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: the whole quote. But he on he He eventually went
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: to a deathbed, and when he died, he was riding
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: on his deathbed saying, I wish I would have spent
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 4: more time with you. I wish I have spent I
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: wish I would have paid more attention to the synchronicities,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: because right now, as I write this in my hospice,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: I am laying in Room one thirty seven and then
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: dot dot dot and it trails off. Dude, it's a
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: fucking crazy story. Dude.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: I can't wait to get around to it.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's crazy. Ooh uh, Judith, did you have
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: anything that you wanted to ask?
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: No, I actually off of that story. My only question is, uh,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: he was he calm or was he freaking out at
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: that point?
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: I think he did so much freaking out during his
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: life as a quantum physicist that even freaking out then
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 4: in that moment was a calm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's like a mysterious type of okay, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, whatever? You know?
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  Speaker 5: I didn't figure it out in my life, but you know, here.
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  Speaker 1: You go, and uh, thank you very much, dude. That
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  Speaker 1: was That was a lot of ship in that one
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  Speaker 1: in this one actual episode, tell you the truth.
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  Speaker 4: We covered. We covered most of it. Now, no one's
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  Speaker 4: gonna watch my episode.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, is this is this live? Yeah? He's like, there, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure. You talked about a lot more
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  Speaker 1: of this stuff too.
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  Speaker 4: I'll go into details and charts and grafts and stuff
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  Speaker 4: on the episode.
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  Speaker 1: See, there you go, that's what's up. Nice. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: you could probably pull like three separate topics just out
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: of this one discussion if you were going.
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  Speaker 5: That's my that's my struggle. That's why the episodes are
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 5: two hours, an hour and a half hour forty something
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 5: like that.
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  Speaker 4: Now, just people are like, what's take us so long?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dud, yo, that takes that. Listen, even from
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: my own experience, it takes a while. I've even sort
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: of knocked my show's down to an hour just so
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: I can try to get them out a little bit fast.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: And I do think to an extent though, when you're
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: getting hit with like especially when you're doing solo work,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of information being actually related in a
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: short amount of time, right, you know, so like if
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: you're getting hit with an hour and a half, like
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: that's a lot to hear. So you know, maybe trimming
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: down it's a little bit easier for the listeners. But yeah,
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: I know, I know what you're saying. Though, it's that's
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of work to do those solo shows. I
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: don't think people realize like all the editing behind it.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of with your video of fuck Man.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: Right, But also which, by the way, I'm getting Adobe
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: and I'm moving. That's we'll talk about it. But it's
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 4: gonna it's gonna be neiter soon, more matured, I think.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 4: But uh uh. One of my biggest problems is that
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 4: I'll write my script and I'll finish it and then
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: Anthony is like, I'm available to record on Wednesday, and
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 4: I'll be like great, I'm gonna put the script away
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: and not touch it anymore, and then something occurs and
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 4: I'm like, ah, I got to add it to the script,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 4: and then it just keeps going or whatever. What's not doing?
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 4: From a fish?
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: What do you say?
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 7: Let me see, it's a breeding order you can put
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 7: it in a fish tank.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: We're breeding fishy, okay, nice, what kind of fish?
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 7: Put normal pet co or pet like from companies because
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 7: they're always like have diseases from being.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 4: The eggs isolate them.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, right, you can put them on this. They get
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 7: through everything if they're breeding, right, start giving your food
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 7: fish them.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: So if you get fish and you're breeding fish and
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 4: some of them have the egg which is actually the
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 4: term for it, right, Yeah, the white dots, white dots
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: on their fins, you'd have to put them aside so
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: they won't taint the other ones.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Put them in quarantine right right.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 7: They always have liked diseases, which is bad.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 4: For right before they can be intant to their new environment,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: they have to have time is first, right, What what
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: if that's the point of the universe we have is
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: the quarantine until.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: We've heard ideas about that.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: Downstairs?
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 6: Watch this.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: Man dish, that's what this isue.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: There's a weird synchronicity. Sometimes I might have projected that one.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: But when I did my Mars video and he doesn't
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: know what the video is about or whatever, and Anthony's
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 4: recording me, and I'm at a part in the Mars
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 4: video in the script where uh, there's a it's a
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 4: Nephelin thing and there's it's Mars. It's all men and
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 4: women have to be introduced into the environment or else
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: the species is in trouble. Right, my son comes inside
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: with a bucket of and of of water on this
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: side is whatever. He's like, Dad, we're in trouble. The
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 4: creek outside it's all male crawdads, and we're gonna need
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: to maybe order some female to be able to get
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: keep them going or else they're gonna be really low
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 4: this coming summer. I'm just and Anthony's like, what. First
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 4: of all, he's like, weird now because he got a
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: bucket of crowdsk in a creek or whatever.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 5: But it fit perfectly into it.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 4: That was It's weird. Yeah, yeah, synchronicity, all right, tell
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: your buddy Ethan Indigo Smith. Yes that I love his
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: book and I was gonna quote from it a bunch today,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 4: but I didn't.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: We'll wait till. Yes. I like that, you know, it
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: was funny. I even noticed it of the behind you
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: and then totally forgot, But yeah, I like how you
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: have it behind you, mane. That's what's it's I.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 4: Think it's good work. And the way he did it
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 4: is school like the cover is the back, that's that's neat.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: That is cool. Yeah, he's really good. I do like
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: his stuff. I have a couple of his books. I
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: think he's a good right.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 4: Tell him the funk off.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 5: We're over now what once was love is smithereens now.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, he's gonna make that extra effort to come on
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: next time, Joey.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Him know. Thank you so much, Joey. That was as usual.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: It was a banger of a show. Awesome stuff. I
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: always love when you come on. So many things that
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: you get, you touched on that I've you know, thought
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: myself and gone down rabbit holes thinking about so who knows, man,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: there might be something to all of that. Right, before
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: we wrap it up, Judith, let everybody know what's up
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: with you and where they can find all your amazing work.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: First, thank you Cardinal for having me on. Of course,
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: thank you Joey. It's a pleasure meeting you. I actually
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: please don't forget to plug your show where we could
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: watch it on Friday and what time? And for everybody else,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: you can find me on YouTube x and Spreaker as
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: the Loon.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: Awesome, thank you so much for joining always.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 4: I like that name, especially shooting for today with the Loon,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 4: you know, we forgot to talk about the archetype of
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 4: the lunatic which is affected by the moon, not that
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: you are, but a synchronicity. Nonetheless, we all.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: Did you look into that and realized that there has
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: been studies on that to show that that's a lot
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: of that stuff isn't actually real.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 4: Oh I don't know, yeah.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Yeah, when I when I did it on my
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: Moon series, there was there was some studies that have
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: shown that certain things really maybe nowadays it's changed and
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: it's not as it used to be. But they said
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: there's no correlations between people going to the crazy places?
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 4: What about wear wolves?
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 5: Come on, explain that dog wolves?
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: Oh oh but thank you again? Man, uh yeah please
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: did you? Did you? You mentioned Friday when it's coming out.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 4: So on the channel whenever a new episode drops, we
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 4: do it live, so I'll be in the chat.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah premiere, right.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, premiere, thank you, and we chat whatever.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 5: I'll be in there.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 4: Everybody watches it and stuff, and then after the premiere
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 4: I go live to just talk a bunch of shit
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 4: like in life, you know, and you can see yourself
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 4: in the chat room or something, and then I can
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 4: see the question. I can see this the chat and
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 4: I talk. I can see the chat and I can talk.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: I swear I can talk. The technology thing is still
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 4: I'm doing my best with it, all right, But I
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: love I love doing it, and I love talking and
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 4: chatting with the guys with the chat. And so after
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 4: the premiere Friday, which is at four twenty one Central time,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: so seven seventeen, twenty six Friday for twenty one Central
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 4: Standard time.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 5: And the reason that's for twenty one.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 4: Is because you get you get you got to smoke
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 4: down Battye first and then you get on there.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: That is awesome.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 5: It's a buffer to the existential dread.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: I get it, man, I get it, believe me. Yeah,
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: that's what's up. Thank you so much again it everybody,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: thank you for the chat. That's what's up. That's where
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: we go live. And uh yeah until the next one,
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: everybody be.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 8: Will close your words, look into the darkness, find the
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 8: blazing storm, focus on it will be called the eclipse.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 8: Don't feel.
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  Speaker 1: What the sure you do
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  Speaker 2: And you sh