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27. Dial It Back | Featuring Kayla Brown · Forget The Noise

• speaker-0: They say motivation something you want. Discipline is something you need. Obsession is something you have to have. I'm gonna show you what I wanted, how I got it, and how I was obsessed to get there. Alright, another week on Forget the Noise Podcast. We have a special guest today. I had to do a little bit of pulling strings and begging for this one. We have Kayla Brown from RBO. If you know me, you know I've been part of RBO for four years now. We actually just confirmed that. And she's kind of like the method behind the madness. She's the one that makes it look organized on the back end. I've been bugging her a lot lately, especially coming down to this trip, but she goes above and beyond with everything. I when I asked you for a restaurant recommendation, I was like, hey, you got a good restaurant that's not fast food. We got like 27 restaurants with like Michelin star ratings and everything, directions on how to get there. It was like, so that's the type of person she is. We're gonna dive into that today. She recently just got promoted over to CEO of RBO, which is Real Business Owners. On top of that, she balances what do you guys add, 100 members? speaker-1: Yeah, almost about ninety five. speaker-0: So a hundred squirrel brain entrepreneurs. So that in itself is just crazy. On top of that, she has eight kids, she's a wife, and she balances her own personal life. So getting her on here is special. I know an hour to her is like the world, right? So we're gonna dive right into it. but really with your bio, like just what you have going on in your life, you can make a whole episode out of that. So I'm gonna be loose on what we talk about and I'm just like gonna run with it because I feel like you can go anywhere with personal life, business. personal development or anything like that. So take a second, kinda introduce yourself, let everyone know who you are, what you like to do, just nonchalant kind of stuff. And it's your second podcast only, second, so speaker-1: Yeah, you had a big. You had a big. yeah, so like you said, mom, wife, you know, love the kids. I had we've we're blended, so I've got two older girls who have both actually moved out. They're both living in Florida, doing incredible things out there and loving it. and then my husband has three boys that kinda fill in that gap and then we had three together. So between us eight kids and it's a lot. but twenty speaker-0: So what's the ages from top to bottom? So speaker-1: two down to three. speaker-0: that's figuring. speaker-1: Well, I guess tech almost twenty twenty three down to four. Their birthdays here coming up, but speaker-0: How do keep track of the birthdays alone? speaker-1: That's easy. I I think that's a mom thing and speaker-0: two my kids' names on my arm so I don't forget. You're gonna do the birthday underneath. Yeah, no, put the birthday. yeah so go on. So like eight kids. Yep. Big range there. Do you find being a mother in the that big range, like because you're jumping so many phases at once. Like me right now I only have two and they're seventeen and fourteen. So I'm really enjoying the teenager stage but they're both in that pocket. Like I couldn't imagine having an infant because I feel like I'd be missing out on kind of the teenager a like how do you navigate all that? speaker-1: It it is a lot, it's different. So my I've had some conversations even just lately with my girls because they were in those teenage years when I was back to having littles again, you know, and so it was different for them. Like I wasn't as involved with some things as I used to be 'cause it was just us for a while. And so like we were pretty close and so it that dynamic kinda shifted and it like, mom can't just like drop at the hat, go do whatever, like she's gotta organize things, there's things that have to be taken care of. but I think everyone kinda learns to adapt because the little is like My girls didn't have to live in the car driving kids around to everything and going to sports and all that, 'cause it was kind of like they just enjoyed those younger years, right? And so now these littles they're just used to just being on the go in the car, hitting up events, dances, whatever it is. And so I think everyone just kind of s just tends to learn to pivot to whatever the is going on for them. speaker-0: But I never thought of it like that. Yeah, because with my kids, my son was huge into karate. My daughter got dragged around everywhere with karate because she couldn't stay home alone, right? She was a younger one. So yeah, I guess yeah, see this is speaker-1: don't know any different. Yeah. The older they can c the older ones now can look back and be like, well geez, like that's crazy, you know, and but then it's a different perspective for them to look at now. And even now as they get older like I do with my parents, I'm like, like I understand why certain things were a certain way. speaker-0: So well it's that unteachable lesson where it's like listening to your parents more and your parents save your money. You're like, fuck, I'm making good money, I don't need to save money, and then two years later you're fuck, I should've saved my money. you know what I mean? All right. so found a quote. Shout out to the people who believed in the draft, not the people not just the final copy. And I feel like that resonated with you with RBO, because like you've been around a long time and RBO was like a concept, an idea. Well, as long as I've been in, you've been around. speaker-1: Yeah, so I actually I started with So Cale's wife actually did my hair and my oldest daughter and the job that I had before, like it was okay. I I was I learned a lot, I'm grateful for it, but it kind of shifted me into where I'm at now. And Kaylee was like, hey, like these guys are starting up something, like they don't know what they're doing, they need a woman that can step in and keep things organized and they just they're gonna need help all over all across the board. And I was like, okay, like nervous. did an interview with Corey, Kayle Trevor, and very intimidated, you know. incredible people doing awesome things. And so I actually just stepped into easier and was just doing kind of odds and end things, planning some of their Christmas parties or, you know, just little group get togethers that they do throughout the year, birthdays for them all of their employees, stuff for the break room, just odds and ends things. There wasn't anything like specific and speaker-0: Was RBO actually a thing at this point when you stepped into AZier or was it still a con speaker-1: So they had started doing that. They'd been doing the podcast. They had just launched the mastermind and were getting members in and so I started the end of February, first part of March, and mid end of March was their first meetup. Okay. For the upper group that they had, the family speaker-0: the first meetup. speaker-1: So Cory reached out to me and was like, Hey, will you come attend this event? Like we want more females in the room and I was like, sure, okay. Like not knowing what to expect and just naturally I don't know, I'm the oldest of seven, I'm the oldest of grandkids on both sides. I've just kind of naturally stepped into that role always of just I don't know. speaker-0: So you're fluffing the pillow wrong, okay? So please just do it this way. yeah, I I I know the person who's Alright, just do it. Yeah, no, I know. speaker-1: So I just stepped in and started helping out with things and Corey was super grateful and so I don't remember if it was the second meetup or definitely by the third it was kind of like, Hey, you're great at this, here you go. Yeah. So Corey and I kind of tagged things, tag team things along that together. but he mostly did like the media side of things and then I just started doing everything else and so that's how I got pulled into RBO and I love it. Yeah. I it's there's been a lot of things that I've experienced over the years and it's it's definitely been something that's kept me above water, I guess you could say in a lot of ways. just being here to serve the members and being around the type of people that come in to RBO. speaker-0: That's what I was gonna ask you is like it's not really like us members are employees, right? But like everyone I've met, like I'm sure there is the bad apple in there which I haven't met personally and I'm sure you've had that experience with somebody like speaker-1: we've only had one that we have to like speaker-0: But for the most part it's like do you find what you're doing as a role makes it more enjoyable to do or does it help that the members are all like pretty appreciative and like you speaker-1: I think it's speaker-0: know me it we're all there to like get value but give value. So it's like a yin and a yang. It's a perfect push pull situation, right? So do you find it's more your roles that make it like I like having things organized, I like keeping things in order, I like sleeping at night knowing like tomorrow's taken care of, or is it like A little bit the members too. It's kinda like I like bantering with the members, it's cool. It's kinda like speaker-1: I would say it's probably for me more the members. Okay. it does play into some of my strong suits of organization and just planning and stretching me to grow in other ways as far as the job side of it and so that I'm grateful for. But the relationship with the members I think and obviously with the family like that was a little bit more of a relationship, right? 'Cause we did a lot more one on one. You know, I went to all the events, like I was there, you know, so there was a lot more like a deeper established relationship connected with them versus just the inner circle. That's taken a lot more, like it's harder just through a text or just for an email or if you come to one event a year you know when there's a hundred people there or seventy people there, it's a lot harder to connect on a deeper level. But I definitely for the members, like that and just kind of what RBO, how it's been created and how it's just continued on, like the heart and soul of that, like it speaker-0: Yeah, I think it's a I guess the like let's say the core values or the mission statement RBO like Back from four years ago to today, I feel like it's still exactly what it said it was gonna be. It's like it's very authentic where it's kinda like that. And I agree with the in person thing. Like literally I flew twenty six hundred miles. Yeah. Just to be in person. And just up and left. And it was one of those like I have friends and they're like, You're flying across the country just to say hi to like an internet friend that you pay to have and I'm like speaker-1: It's different. speaker-0: You don't get it. you really don't get it, right? And look what I got out of it. I like four or five podcasts. I got to do a meetup. I think this afternoon we're doing some Spring Zion National Park resort or something like that. So like it worked out that we're doing a lot while we're here, right? But that in person you cannot be you I speaker-1: Well and how can you beat Saint George too? speaker-0: know. I I love it here. Like speaker-1: To me. speaker-0: It's crazy though. Like we're tr if you haven't been to St. George, it's crazy because like You drive down the street and there's not even trash on the road. But there's no fucking trash cans. where does it go? You guys have little incinerators in the curbs that people just kinda tuck in there. I I don't get it. and lawns are manicured. we pulled into actually Roxbury. And there's like one shrub in like, you know, the parking lot median. And I see a sprinkler go off for that one shrub. And I'm like, You're in the fucking desert, what do you need a sprinkler for? Like you know, it's crazy how well maintained and beautiful and clean it is. It's just like and there's a lot to do here that people don't even realize. speaker-1: Not a big party town, but there's a lot of outdoor things to do and a lot of beauty. speaker-0: Well yesterday morning we had some time, went out to Pioneer Park. Yeah. Yeah. Just watch sunrise. And I'm like, screw it, let's get up and go, right? Went out there. I was like, You can't get this anywhere else. Like you just can't, right? So I love it out here. Like it's so just beautiful. Just calm, collect. It's like a good pace. So walk us through like how your roles have changed from day one to now. Like has there been a big change? Because I feel like speaker-1: It's always involved. you're if you think about it, I'm working with and for entrepreneurs, like I nothing stays the same. Like there's always ideas coming. Like even with Rick, I'm like, I think I've got my to do list done and then you know, getting with Rick and Trevor and it's like we've got all these ideas and momentum. Yeah. speaker-0: my I gotta just give a number and then it's one of those well no you threw more at me like speaker-1: Yeah, so I'm like it's always changing and so yeah, I feel like my role has definitely changed since when I first stepped into RBO and it's just continued to grow and push me and scares the heck out of me, but it's been good, you know. Allows me to grow in ways that I definitely wouldn't have before. speaker-0: Do you think it'd be easier your roles and responsibilities with RBO if they were just, let's say, people on like a life development path versus entrepreneurs? Because I find entrepreneurs have a different speaker-1: Maybe. But I again that's all I've worked with is entrepreneurs, so speaker-0: So we just kinda used to you g jump right into the worst of the worst, right? Because we are the worst to deal with, right? So you handle ev let's be honest, you handle almost everything. Like you know events, lunches. Rick was telling me yesterday about some stuff you guys are gonna be implementing, which is cool, that's a whole nother thing. Then we got like now we have members' roadmaps where you guys can be checking in with us every few months and stuff like that. Balance eight kids, your wife, you have your personal life still the balance. Like Be honest, what are you not good at? speaker-1: A lot. speaker-0: No, but like put it out there. Like be vulnerable with it, where it's kinda like one of those like everyone has to have something, but like looking from the outside, I'm like, there's never anything not done. Like I know you're planning this lunch coming up tomorrow, right? Like you were trying to organize a podcast that was on yesterday, you were like talking about me getting this place or another location. Like you've been back and forth, give me restaurant recommendations, and then there's ninety-nine other members, then there's Rick and Trevor, and there wasn't one hiccup. Like there's gotta be like speaker-1: There's always a little hiccup that speaker-0: No, but there's gotta be something you're not good at. beyond it. just call a spade a spade. There's gotta be something that you're just like I d or even you don't like doing. Is there a part that you're just like, This is not my forte, I do it speaker-1: end stuff I'm not good at that. I think in kind of taking on the CEO role and just things kind of changing, it was like, my gosh, I don't know how to do that. Okay. So it was like my brain was just exhausted trying to like navigate through all that. I'm more of like I wanna connect with people, I wanna serve people, like all the back end stuff is like my brain. speaker-0: Different text, why don't I have to go through the CRM? Yeah. speaker-1: You know, so but understanding like the growth and where we're wanting to take things that that some that needs to take place. And like obviously as we grow then we can kind of delegate more things out. Like you know as an entrepreneur entrepreneur, like if you're not good at something, don't do it. Yeah. Right? Like let's find someone who's better at it so we can actually grow and scale. But right now I'm like it is, you know, our team is small and that's and that's okay. But that's one thing I am grateful for speaker-0: you just brought on a co speaker-1: Uh-huh. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, and she's like, I'm here for you, you know, and like there's there's a lot of changes. There was a lot of stress that came in when Rick stepped in because I didn't it's not my baby. Like RBO's not my baby, but it feels a little bit like my baby in a way. And so just very protective. Like we'd had Rick on the podcast or on the one of the Zoom calls before. And loved him, but you still just don't know. Like you go back to like the core values and like what RBO is and what it has stood for this whole time and like what Trevor and Kale started and what Trevor hasn't kept in with a group. I there there was a lot of like unknowns and fear of like what's gonna happen. Like what where's he gonna align? Is he aligned in the same way? And we had our meeting yesterday when he ran into me and you know, it came up again, but it was like, Great, we could focus on scaling like crazy and growing the group or we we could focus on our current members. And he's like like and that's where Trevor and him align a lot is like what can we give to those that are already here? Like they're not like let's get to five hundred members. Like yeah we would love to grow and like obviously we can do more the more like money that's coming in and the growth that comes from RBO. Like because everything it just cycles back into RBO like Trevor speaker-0: I feel like it's probably a negative output on you guys where what comes in versus what you guys actually put out. I'm like, there's no way they even broke even on this. Like I've been to some events, I'm like, there's no way they break even on this. Like there's no way, right? For what you guys put into it. Like I don't know the actual back end numbers, but like when you guys do something, do it right. Kind of thing. Like, you what I Like even when we did the micro meetups. Yeah. It was like a full day at the office with lunch brought in, like five of us shooting the shit, talking. Like it was like it was a thing. It wasn't just kinda like hey how you doing, see each other from the sidewalk. Yeah, it's cool. Okay, later. speaker-1: lot of thought that goes into it and a lot of care. So yeah, that's I guess g to go back to like I'm not great at everything. I feel like kind of the transition of me being in RBO, those were the years where I was like really deep into like little kids, back to back. I actually was We were gone before our last came and she like is a little miracle baby like made her way in like she shouldn't have been here. And I had a hard time with that. And so those were like my first couple of years in RBO of like I thought I was done, like I felt like I was maxed out, like what I was able to do, what I could do, how I wanted to show up, how I was wanting to, you know, be there for other people, be there for myself. And so I let myself go for a lot of years. Like it was everything else mattered more. Like I had to make sure I was showing up for the kids, for work, relationships, struggling, I was struggling. And so there's still a lot of that, definitely, but Again, that's where I can give it back to RBO. Like I don't I wouldn't be as strong as I am in where I'm at without RBO. Like I think had I been in the job that I had before, everything would have fallen apart. speaker-0: I love that because I feel like I've got so much out of RBO. Like it's been like the one staple running a business where I'm kind of like, I have the support at home, which has been like phenomenal. But RBO's been that like kind of pillar where I'm like, I always got them. And just coming out here just to hang out. It was one of those like it's always been there. speaker-1: Well and I think you're great at this too. I think when you're in the thick of it, there's nothing better than to get out and serve other people. And so you're great at reaching out to members and trying to support other people in the group too. So I think that's also helped is just finding ways like kick it outside of my own shit and how can I go help someone else? Like how can I show up for people that are, you know, like needing help or how can I give them direction or who can we connect them with and having the support of Trevor and Kill and speaker-0: You do in the position you're in. Don't you feel it's because you've been in RBO so long, it's like it's almost like an obligation. Do you not feel like it's almost like an obligation? Like I feel like for how much I've got out of it, like, I should be reaching out to members. I'm not where I am because I I am where I am because of it. So I'm like, I want other people to get there and not everyone's like me where they're like, you know jump into the water and go, right? So it's maybe someone needs a push or maybe someone's just having a hard time. I know how many people like that's part of the reason I want to get into the coaching consulting is because like I ate shit so many times for no reason. Like literally there is no reason for I look back at it six months later I'm like, pfft, why did I do that? Like and I don't want someone else to do that. They don't need to. And I got a lot of those like leapfrogs through RBO and I feel like we have that community where it's kinda like you feel obligated to reach out. In a good way. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's kinda like I wanna reach out. I you know, I got a a lot of o out of this. I want to give back because I I've taken so much out of like from the group and everything like that. And I feel like you've been such a staple in that promoting, like connect with each other, like reach out, you know, like talk to one another, don't just always go to the tip of the iceberg, like you guys can all speaker-1: I that comes from two things. I know for me I tend to isolate, right? Yeah. When things are hard I just withdraw and isolate, or I'll just kind of like vomit on someone. Yeah. Right. And it's like neither one of those are good. speaker-0: No. But in those times of like struggle, knowing you had RBL behind you and the group you were around and the type people you're around, was there doubt or was there one of those like I know I'm struggling but I know I'll get through it? speaker-1: there's definitely been doubt, yeah, for sure. But it was like I guess for me I don't ever look I like I don't have a choice. Like I'm I'm gonna continue to show up and do the things that I've said. and that I guess there's been a transition for me too, and that of like I'll take on too much or like won't be like speaker-0: No way. Is that you really? speaker-1: and not in a good way, right? Like to the point where I'm just it's not beneficial to the group, it's not beneficial to me, it's not beneficial to, what I'm trying to do in life. speaker-0: You find that outside the group too, at home? You find that with the kids and husband and friends and stuff like that? Yeah. Have you felt over the years you've got better at not taking on too much or are you still just the same old Kayla? speaker-1: And we're we're on that path currently. Yeah. 'Cause I I feel like I have really high expectations, which can be hard in relationships with kids, work, everything else, and so I'll tend to beat myself up or the relationship or whatever it is because I want those things to be taking place. Like I wanna operate on like the best level always. and so it's hard when someone else doesn't match that, like in a relationship or like just with the kids, like in times of RBO I'm like all in, then I'm like, wow, My kids are here asking to play or to do something and I'm like, I won't just stop. so it's my own personality type of like I don't want to see things that need done. Like, I want to get them all done. I want to get them out of the way. I want things to be moving. And so my focus this last probably really like six months is just on like slow down. It's okay. Like things will get done and I'll show up better and execute better if I'm taking care of me, if I'm showing up for the family, like I'm being careful in my hours. Like I get texts all the time, like between five and and 10 p.m. from members and it doesn't bother me. apologize my gosh sorry I didn't think about it and I'm like look I wouldn't respond. but I like I love like I truly love RBO. Like I'm if I'm good for it I'm gonna respond. and so it's just making sure that I'm trying to keep things aligned in that way 'cause I will just go a hundred miles an hour with everything and my health take like will take a hit on that. obviously the family and the relationships will, so speaker-0: From an outsider, I feel like you still take on just as much. But I find you're very strategic with it now. Yeah. Does that make sense? Like from my perspective, like when you deal with something, it's kinda like I guess in the earlier there's a lot of like, okay, Kayla will reach out to you, Kayla will reach out to you. Now it's very like you saying, Okay, by this date I'll have this, and by that date like there's don't know if that's a whole back end structure you guys have with it, or that's you personally, or just as a whole, but like, is that helping you be more having more let's say having more control. So now that as a CEO, you have a little more control, a little more say on how things are done. It's not like okay, we'll give it to Kayla, she'll deal with it, kinda thing, right? You find now being CEO it's kinda like you're part of those conversations of the ideas. Yeah next step is kinda like, Okay, we can make this happen, but this is how we need to do it versus just, hey, so we talked yesterday, here's our plan, take it and run. Like, is that helpful? speaker-1: It helps to be more included and I feel like Trevor always did and Corey did a lot of like there was a lot of that in the beginning, but there was like different roles and kind of a there was a lot that played into like our momentum and where we're at on things. but I feel like for the most part things have kind of stayed the same. I feel like we've just become better at what we're doing and always wanting to make sure we're improving what we're doing and also stepping into okay, what can be automated, what can send out, you know, so even if it's going through an automation, like that was in my hands, like before going out. Like that was a message for me. Like we're still mapping out different things and I'm like, nope, that's not like that's not the wording we've used. Like that doesn't sound like us, you know. And so but that I think there was a part in that where letting that go because And I feel like Trevor and Rick are also similar in this that we like that touch and that connection. obviously Rick's been getting on the call with s with everybody, trying to get to know everybody as he's stepped into this and is new and wanting to get the relationships with people and have them know who he is and him for him to be able to know them. And so letting that go and turning that turning that over to more of like an automate like automation, it was speaker-0: I know. See I I'm big on automation. So it's like I get it, right? I know there's so much more going on in the background. So I'm like when I get the autom how many people respond to the automated text? Please tell me. A lot of speaker-1: Not a lot. No. No. speaker-0: it. I always wonder that when we get those, I'm like speaker-1: There's some that I'm trying to get you to respond to, but for the most part Mike, I just want people like, speaker-0: FYI, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I get that. Like speaker-1: Something different that'll get you to stop where you're at as a business entrepreneur and like read the message. I mean couldn't tell you how many times I'll I I'll send stuff out and they'll be like, Hey, I don't know where how to get my roadmap and like, it's in the email this morning speaker-0: She really said that because I just sent her that exact text. the members portal. I text her every I'm like, I even know how to write I've logged in, I have my profile made, I just don't go and check on it, right? Do you think you feel you've created and I really want to dial into the entrepreneur kind of aspect because I have a lot of friends who are getting to that point where they need that A player in a company. And you know what an intro entrepreneur is, Like it's someone that's like involved in the business, treats it like their own, cares about it. But they weren't there just signing the papers from day one, but they're running it like it's their own, right? As an entrepreneur, how do you feel like your vision for yourself has changed because of you or because of where the business has gone? Does that make sense? speaker-1: I think the business the business would definitely push me but also personally I've grown and like my goals and desires have changed as well, like coincide with that. speaker-0: Yeah, but that is that a personal decision saying, Hey, I'm good at this, I'm taking on more roles and responsibilities, I can be a better person or is it like the you just woke up one day and kinda like, Holy shit, I'm doing a lot more than I thought. Like i is it part of the plan you growing with it, or is it just one of those like I have to grow because of speaker-1: I'm totally more like I have to grow. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: or should be growing, not that I have to. speaker-0: And what are you doing outside of being a CEO that you find is helping yourself grow personally? Not not business. Like I I wanna know Kayla now, like speaker-1: That's one thing that's good, and I was gonna touch on that just a second ago as you were talking. So in getting to know Rick, I've gotten to know his wife Gina and she runs a group, the Revitalized Womanhood Group. And so I've It's phenomenal. speaker-0: Which also has their own podcast, so check it out. speaker-1: Yeah. and so that has actually done a lot for me personally and I've only been in it, gosh, I think going on two months now. But that's where I'm like I don't believe in coincidences, like everything happens for a reason. Like I needed like Gina and Rick came into my life because I needed Gina and I needed what she's created there to keep me moving forward on where I'm going. And so I there's always things like I don't I mean I'm not the type of person that doesn't ever want to grow and so I hope that I'm always continuing to grow and then I'm given opportunities just like I've been given in RBO to keep growing. speaker-0: So is there anything in specific you're working on right now? Like right now I'm big on being okay by myself because I feel like the lonely chapter I'm in is gonna last a long time. Like I feel like I I'm just not gonna get out of it. So I'm like I might as well embrace it. That and fitness for me right now, with some health stuff going on, I'm like, those are my two priorities. That's where I'm concentrating my growth on. Like if you want to open up about is there something personal that you're working on growth wise? is it intellect, is it fitness? Is it like just emotional? Or like 'cause that was a big thing for me, opening up emotionally. I I couldn't tell people how I felt in Since I've been born. literally, and I think what, three weeks ago on the podcast was the first time I opened up and I said, I'm fucking tired trying to be be my best self. Like that's what I told everyone. I'm like, I'm just tired trying to be my best self. Like I emotionally I'm broken, mentally I'm broken, like physically I'm broken. It was hard for me to open up emotionally. Yeah. So like what avenue are you actually working on yourself right now? Seeing how you have to grow a CEO, now you're getting into a revitalized woman woman. kinda dally in more with like you were saying with your kids because you were conscious of stepping back and kinda say, Well my kids want to play and I'm doing work. Like what's your like thing right now? speaker-1: mine, personally my health. And that's mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, all of it. speaker-0: How far along on that journey are you? how long have you been kinda I don't need an exact date but wrong. speaker-1: So for the last couple of years there's been a lot of emotional work that's been done but I I wasn't taking care of my own health even in my I had a therapy session probably maybe six months ago now that, you know, my therapist's like, You're gonna run yourself into the ground. Like your your body physically will not keep up. because I wasn't taking care of me. It was like if I don't get sleep, whatever, like I have to get the job done, I have to show up for the kids. Like I it was like show up for me, like Yeah. Yeah. You know, and so and it's like I know, I know that I gotta take care of me to show up in the best ways. And so I think just all of those things transpiring more of like I'm shorter with the kids, like I'm not as effective at work, like my brain's just not there, if I'm not getting sleep, it all it all ties together. speaker-0: We skip lunch. speaker-1: that's still terrible. I live on Dr. Pepper right now. speaker-0: Ha ha ha. speaker-1: and so yeah, that's where I'm at. Like I I I used to go to the gym a lot. obviously having like the three kids back to back. There's a lot of insecurities of like wanting to go to the gym and I just there's a lot of stuff that goes on in the gym that I just don't energetically I don't love being in the gym and so I've got a little gym space created at the house. But speaker-0: Tru I went to Summit today and I was very insecure with myself. I know and I'm the most confident person in the world. I walked in there, I'm like, mm-hmm, I don't even know if I belong in here. Like you have a whole posing wall and I'm like, this is crazy. Like so I can see someone getting back into it where it's kinda like not my place. Like kinda like caught me off guard there. speaker-1: Also, tied with that is like the mental exhaustion. I make a lot of decisions for work, make a lot of decisions for the kids. like my husband and I's relationship, like we've had our struggles, like he's got his own struggles, and a lot of his struggles are very heavy on me and the kids trying to deal with that. And so it was like the by the time the day's over like that. decision fatigue is just there. so I started, I'm not a runner. I don't love to run. but I started just in the mornings like going for just a quick little mile. Like some of it was walking, some of it was running because mentally I couldn't think of or even I didn't want to have to like read what I needed to do. Andrea Fawcett, she's got her momate app and I've used her for years, but it I'd gotten to the point where I was so drained that even just having to read through what her workout was for the day and actually think about picking up weights and I I love weights. I always have I've done crossfit weights just more my style versus like a cardio. But over the last six months like that's what I needed. I just needed to get out. I needed to be outside because I will just confine myself like inside, sitting, working, you know, I get up, if I do something for me it's done and then I work and then I get the kids up, get them out the door. I've got, you know, summer was hard and that was when the transition of a lot of like the CEO stuff was happening and that was hard to navigate with kids being home. and then you have like the regret at the end of the day of like I all I did was work today and I don't feel like I made progress, like I didn't show up for the kids, like you know, like this is their summer, what am I doing? And so there was a lot of emotional components coming into that. And so just going for the runs, that was like I don't have to think about it. I know how to put my shoes on, like I have to get dressed anyways. Like I can just go outside. It gets me outside. I wouldn't listen to anything. just the noise of everything, it could just be quiet for a little bit. but I'm ready to get back into some weights and working out. But again, like we're talking going going to the gym is a struggle. I don't Yeah. I'm not sure that I want to go, but I'm like we've been at this gym so long, like our rates are insanely cheap. So it's like thinking of trying to do something different. I don't know. but actually just reached out to some personal trainers that my husband used back in the day and just doing some semi personal stuff with them just to like feel confident with what I'm doing going into the gym. and so I start that in two weeks and then I'll do them just twice a week for two months and then hopefully that'll warm me up to stepping back into the gym as far as like my knowledge of what I'm doing because it's been so long. and then also just continuing to work on like my mental growth and that of like it doesn't matter, like I'm going to the gym for me and just stepping outside and working on like that insecurity of going to the gym. So speaker-0: I speaker-1: As far as my diet, that still needs to change. I I'll take care of the kids, feed them, but I I yeah, I'll go all day and like, I guess I should eat something, you know, but just give me two Dr. Peppers, I'll be fine. speaker-0: I feel like that little segment there, I feel like there's probably hundreds of women that are sitting there thinking, like, I feel that, I feel that, I feel that, right? So from your experience, do you feel like for me it's mental, right? I think if you can't get yourself set mentally, you're not gonna do physically, you're not gonna do emotionally. Like you gotta be good with yourself before you get back into a relationship or physically or anything like that. Do you feel like you're getting on a path now where like mentally you're like Okay, I know myself, I know what I have to do to make things better. speaker-1: Still growing on that. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And actually working with Gina and her group, like finding the priorities of the day, 'cause like I said, my personality type, like I don't like things not getting done. Like very, very structured and wanting, like I work better and function better when things are done. And so just going through and over the last couple of weeks really diving in of like, okay, what's the priority? Like here's the list. Like what are the things that have to be done? Like what are the absolute musts? Like, you know, and then also like recognizing like putting myself that's something that needs to be taken care of. and on the days where like something is off or kids were sick and it just like the days are off, I'm like, it's it's a big shift when something's off. speaker-0: So explain that I really want this episode to bring value to like mastermind groups and what you get from it and a little bit behind the scenes. Because I tell people like I'm in a mastermind group, like it's just a bunch of entrepreneurs. I'm like, yo, there's so much support behind that. And you're that's why you're like the perfect guest. But you also fall into being a member of a mastermind group. And I really want like to start pushing people to get into masterminds because like in Toronto there's nothing. it there is absolutely nothing. They have those like It's almost like a pyramid scheme. those dinner clubs where you can pay five hundred dollars a month and you get invited to a dinner with fourteen other entrepreneurs at least once a month. It's kinda like But you're never relevant with any of them. There's no personal connection because there's a pool like a hundred and fifty and they just draw fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, fifteen. You just get matched with different people every week. So like I really want to push the mastermind thing. Because you like you're obviously running one, on top of that, you're part of one. Like, what are you getting out of rev re revitalized woman? Like what what are you getting out of that as a member, not as the CEO of one? speaker-1: really stepping into myself and being able to look at how I can be better and the things that I need to do and holding me accountable. It's like speaker-0: But it's not just business, right? Can you explain that? Because a lot of people think it's just you go there, you talk about business and stuff. Like I want you to have a little verbal diarrhea, but like the personal part of being part of a mastermind, even it's not business. Like that's what the value speaker-1: Well, how many times has it become a joke that RBO is like like running speaker-0: Running business. speaker-1: businesses and corners like but if you look at things like there is so much truth, like if you are not taking care of you, that affects your business, that affects your relationships, that affects how you're showing up for the business, the relationships, everything. Like it's all intertwined. So while everyone's goals can look different it does matter and so in RBL for example, there's I feel like people come into it thinking like, I'm gonna improve on my business, like everything's gonna be great, like that's what I'm here for. And then once you really like dissect the layers, and get deeper, there's so many other things that are playing into that. But if you're working on all the layers underneath, like the business will change and grow too. speaker-0: I've never made a business deal in RBO. No. Never. It's like been all personal development. Like a hundred percent personal development relationships. Like my business has grown because of that. Like I've got tips and tricks and like resources, but that personal part of it, like you need that. Like you going through having kids I can't if you call me and say, Hey Jay, I'm having a hard time. I got eight kids, you know, my husband's pissing me off and like I gotta cook dinner, this and that. I can't relate with that. 'Cause I don't have a kid. But I'm sure in Revitalized Woman someone feels that overwhelmed mom guilt. Let's call it mom guilt. That's what it is. And like so many women feel it and like I wish I could re exact my wife used to get it too. And like, I wish I could help you and relate to you. I can like hug you and tell you I love you, I got your back. But I'm like I'm not downplaying it, but I don't get it. You know, maybe his men are wired different than women. I think that's why it's so important, like something that Gina's doing is like women need that. speaker-1: Well and that's why it doesn't have to be RBO, it doesn't have to be revitalized womanhood. you find what area you feel like you need and I still think you'll find something deeper within that that you didn't realize that you needed. But I I've seen enough in being involved with real business owners have how it's impacted people on more of a p personal level than professional, but I've also seen because of all their personal growth and all the changes they've made how they've grown like financially or within their business or you know realize that something wasn't for them or gone in a different direction. And so now I'm seeing that in my own life, I'm not a business owner, you know, but in working with Gina, like there's a lot of things that I'm learning about myself to how to structure my own life better. Like in my role as a CEO, in my role as a wife and a mother and just taking care of my own health. And it does help I I guess everyone's personalities are different, but for me I'm like I need that extra like push. 'Cause I will put myself last and so like I knew that I needed her group and it came at the right time of when I was ready for it. I'd done enough on my own that I wasn't just gonna show up and not do something. so I you have to do it for the right reasons too. And sometimes maybe you just jump and do it and then you kind of figure out what that reason was for, but speaker-0: Well, was talking to someone and they're like, I don't know, I don't think I don't feel like I like I don't see the point in people that have a similar interest getting together and just shooting the shit for no reason. Like when I And I'm like speaker-1: So get it. Get it. speaker-0: You understand and there he's like, every mastermind is like a pyramid scheme, right? And I'm like, you know Alcoholics Anonymous is mastermind. Really like if you think about it, it's actually a mastermind group. For people with addiction that get speaker-1: They compare it to a pyramid scheme. speaker-0: Yeah, and they're like, Well you pay And the more you pay, the more you get out of it, but then you have to get back to the people below you. It's like is that kinda a pyramid scheme? I'm like, no, your cup gets full and it overflows. What are you gonna do with You might as well give it to someone speaker-1: Yeah, but someone else. speaker-0: else. But they look at it as like speaker-1: A negative thing. speaker-0: Yeah, and I'm like, I just don't wrap my brain around it, right? my wife see like my wife, she's seen so much change in me where like this trip came around and I'm like, I'm just in a low and she goes, I see it. And I'm like, I have to go. And she's like, Yeah, where are you going? Utah? I'm like, Yep, I'm gone and she goes, Yeah, let me know the days are gone and I'm like, it's In my relationship, my wife has seen how beneficial and crucial it is. It wasn't even a question like you know, do you have to go or what's wrong? Like she's almost but speaker-1: She supported it. She was like you speaker-0: she understands like when I first started the business it was like I'm like I'm just overwhelmed and stressed. Like I can't deal with this and like over the years she's learned like I'm just not in that situation, so I can't help you. You mean like it was actually speaker-1: it's helped you to see her and her needs. speaker-0: hundred percent, yeah. Like our white our relationship's got ten times better. I don't think it's ever been better than it is. But even like I was at a low about a month and a half break before I booked the trip and I told her, I like on the phone with her, I'm like almost breaking down tears and I'm like, I think I need to go see a fucking psychiatrist or psychotherapist or something and she goes, They're gonna give you pills, or you're gonna tell you, just don't do so much. That's all they're gonna do. They don't get you. She goes, Go find a business coach. Go meet up with your friends from your mastermind group. Go do that. That's what you need because they relate to you. Like And she's the one that said no to a therapist, not me. Like I was willing to go to one. She's no, you don't need that. You need those people, right? And it's crazy how now the spouse looks at it and sees how important it is. Right? speaker-1: Well we had talked about it a little bit earlier, but There's value in getting that connection with people. Yeah. Right. So sure you could join a mastermind group and it's just like an online thing, but how much of everything is online? Like I feel like there's so much of the personal touch and connection that's missing that people are craving. And so like it kills me when people don't show up for like RBO life or different things. I'm like, if you show up, like your life will be changed. Like if you're showing up, because there's gonna be something that you needed some connection if you're putting yourself in the right spaces that was there and needed for you. Like I know that I've spent a lot of time with like little kids and just being busy that I'm And Gina's and her group has helped with that, getting out and doing things, like y getting over that mom guilt of like, no, I've worked, like I d didn't get much time with the kids. It was still like, no, mom needs to go fill up her cup too so that I come home and I'm more present and more engaged and I have more intention with what I'm doing with the family and the needs there. So I I couldn't stress enough like people joining a mastermind of their own, like speaker-0: Yeah, and I know there's a financial restraint to it. I get it, right? But there's entry level ones too. There are entry level ones like well even inner circle it's what, two fifty? Yeah. Yeah. It's but how many people are gonna go spend two hundred fifty buc bucks on booze that month? No. But then complain that they're overweight or not feeling well about themselves or they have no friends. speaker-1: On Roxbury. speaker-0: Roxberry, yeah, exactly, right? No, but I'm like there's other ways to do it. Like I was talking to Trevor about going to What are they called? Zion hot springs or something that? And he's like, no, it's a hundred percent worth it, but it sixty bucks for the day pass and I'm sitting there and I'm like, people buy a case of beer for sixty bucks in their garden drink. It's speaker-1: Yeah. It's what you choose to do with it. speaker-0: what you choose to do with it. Like it's not relevant to it and people just don't get that ass. speaker-1: And feel like also if you want it bad enough, you'll figure out how to make it happen. you could restructure, rebudget the priorities of like what's essential, like what needs to take place, like what do you need to let go of. speaker-0: Prioritization. Yeah. I think a lot of people need to read some of those self help books. Like I've got out of the phase of them. Now I'm I love them, but I've it's a whole like full of piss and vinegar kind of thing when you first started business. I'm gonna read the speaker-1: I can't remember it's still sitting on my desk. that I was started to read and I was like maybe forty pages in and it was a fat book and I was like, this isn't resonating right now. Like I don't feel like this is what's being called for me to read. And I think the next day, a friend of mine who does energy work, she had posted about a little course that she was taking and the book that they were reading and I can't even remember the name of the book, but I lost my brother two years ago. Most likely and that came at like the perfect time, that's what I needed. Right? And so I think be intentional with what you're reading. Don't read it 'cause someone says to read it. Like speaker-0: Let's see what I mean. speaker-1: Struggling, what are your goals? what are things that are coming up for you that you would like some insight on or just to if you're reading something about a struggle or something that you have, it's gonna cause you and hopefully like make you want to dive into more of like the why of like the deeper part of this and figure it out versus just reading like I don't want to go read a business book right now, like someday that might be something that jumps out for me, right? But there's other things that come up and so I think being intentional with your growth and intentional with the information you're taking, intentional with the mastermind that you choose, intentional with your day, like map it out. speaker-0: Yeah, and that's what I was getting at. It's like when I first started my business, it like full of piss and vinegar. Every recommended business book I read it, I read it, I read it. Probably seven out of the ten of them. I'm probably not even in the season yet. Five years later, that it's relevant to me. Yeah. And I wasted my time reading it. And I could have been reading like Huckleberry Finn instead. Like I've got really into like the nonfi enjoying like the nonfictions and stuff, but but I don't think people are putting the right information into their body either or into their mind. speaker-1: Right. I think some of that too, there's so much that's coming through. speaker-0: The videographer himself doesn't turn off his ringer. Like that's his wake up alarm, FYI. That's his alarm speaker-1: Just like it up for the speaker-0: Monday to Friday, yeah. That's his wake up alarm. Anyway speaker-1: Why he doesn't text me back? speaker-0: Exactly. Exactly. yeah, so like putting the wrong information into your mind, like taking up bandwidth, stuff like that. speaker-1: I know, I've done it. I'm like, I have to be reading it. Someone says to read it, and now I'll take it and be like, Okay, is this it with me? Is this aligned with me? Is this something that I feel like my heart and soul is needing at the moment? Is this something that's going to resonate with me or help me in this moment? And sometimes like I'm like, I don't know. So then like the one parenting book, I'm like I started reading it and it like, Nope. And then I read another one, I can't remember It's like five habits of parenting I don't know. Eliza Pressman is the one that I ended up reading and like I needed that for my five year old. Like so speaker-0: Did you just touch on something I really want to ask you about? Because you're in this personal development, self I guess, discovery. Feel more like like yourself, right? Are you finding outside influence less because you just said someone recommended this book, so I'm like, I must read it, right? I'm finding more with myself. Like there's less of the someone's recommending to me. I I'm not rude to them, but it's kinda like, Yeah, yeah, sure, I'll take a look at it. But I just kinda completely blow it off because I'm really learning myself now where it's kinda like I know what I need and I'll go look for it. And are you finding like the same thing with yourself now? Yeah. speaker-1: I feel like it's a balance because I think there's always opportunities like where you can sit inside your own stuff for so long that you're like, I'm fine, I've got it all figured out like and then that can become a problem and so I think I'm always a little bit open definitely to like things new things coming to me. speaker-0: Are you more educated on what you li like say you're listening to motivational speeches? Something to do with speaker-1: Selective about the information. speaker-0: one of those like I'm not gonna just buy into everything now. Now it's kinda like I know who I am, I know the phase I'm in, I know the personal development I'm doing, and right now I'm working on emotion. So like just because this person recommended me read this book about putting Yeah. speaker-1: No save her for later. speaker-0: It's like and before I would just read it. And are you finding now that you're finding out who you are? Yes, that's perfect answer. Yeah. speaker-1: I don't have time for it. I don't have time for it. I don't. Like physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, I don't have time for it. speaker-0: Are you are you better at saying no now? Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: I was a people pleaser for a lot a lot of years. speaker-0: And how good does it feel? I've just got into that phase where it's a no and I'm like you you're telling me people don't hate me for saying no? Or like I'm not it's not the end of the speaker-1: Hard. It's hard because I've had to say no, in things with the family dynamic and having blended kids, that put me in like a weird situation. but I've seen it's been going on long enough now that like I can see how much it was affecting me on so many levels. And then therefore affecting the family dynamic, right? So there's a lot, but I I wouldn't even have known what a people pleaser was until there one of the guest speakers that we had on one of our RBO meetups and he was like, Take a look at something, like someone I didn't know, like we connected a little bit, like he was there as a speaker. We were out on one of the experiences, like we had a conversation and he was like, You're a people pleaser and He's like, be careful. Take a look at that. I'm like, what? No, I'm not? You know, and like it took It's hard to look at that was like I think the first year at RBO. So I'm like, that was almost five years ago and I'm like Okay, yeah. speaker-0: It's hard to look in the mirror at first. Now I can look myself in the mirror and say, Yeah, you're not living up to your standard or something. But like I found it really hard to kind of dissect myself and like swallow that pride, kinda say, You're not good enough, or you're doing this wrong, or you're not caring for yourself. Like was it hard to look in the mirror or was it just kinda like I know I have to do this? I find there's there's two people. I I feel no one just falls into self-development. It's either They hit rock bottom and they can only look up and it's kinda like, Can I need to look up? Or someone has that hard look in the mirror where they're kinda like, I don't like who I see. speaker-1: Yeah, I think it was more of like I don't like who I'm becoming and I don't like the resentment that's building inside. So why? And then it was like that's a kinda what started like my avid journey of I did a lot of energy work and a lot of therapy because I was like, I can I can only I love energy work. I can only work I can speaker-0: Don't know about it. I just got into breath work and it's like three to five minutes a day. And I'm like, this is this is a thing. Like, I've been breathing my whole life, and I'm like speaker-1: So I'm actually I've been contemplating it. It keeps coming to me and so I feel like it's something that I should do is taking a course on somatic breath work. speaker-0: I'm diving really deep into it lately and I'm like, this is like and resonance, like your vibration and stuff, like I'm really digging into this. Explain like energy, like speaker-1: Well, it's y you walk into a room, you you feel something, right? speaker-0: Basically I'm trying to explain to some I I've looked into a little bit of the energy thing. I'm like, I'm taking on the breath work, one thing at a time. That's girl brain, right? But we're talking about someone that's listening right now and they're like, Mom overwhelmed, you know, a thousand things going on. Like what do you do to practice Yeah. speaker-1: home you can either feel chaos, you feel d like disruption, you feel peace, you feel joy. Like what do you feel when you walk into someone's home? That's energy. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Like connections with people, like that's energy. speaker-0: Now are you just reading energy or are you trying to create your own speaker-1: No, I've done classes actually, and so I do like muscle testing energy. Okay. I have a daughter who she was diagnosed with it's called I don't remember the full term for it, but it's the abbreviations are T A U. Her body doesn't break down choline. And I took her to a a doctor that does like muscle testing and she wears different vials of things on her, like, for that. like I've always been intrigued by it. I feel like I feel things very heavily and deeply. I'm very almost say it's like a flaw. Like I tell my husband all the time, like I'm so sensitively like sensitive and aware. Yeah. speaker-0: Just stress, right? Which adds to the personality trends that you're trying to fix, right? Yeah. so you const you feel like you're constantly reading speaker-1: Scanning the room and some of that I think is triggers and trauma and some of that is like I my five year old, she feels very deeply too, like she's very energetically aware of what's going on in her room, how someone's feeling. I feel like that's probably where a lot of my people pleasing started is because I was a lot more sensitive to and notice people's energy. And so I was more empathetic, understanding, even with someone like their reaction to something. I'm like, I try not to be as like surface level, like for I'm like, okay, let let me take it back. Like I can have a lot more to a flaw patience with someone because I'm like, I know that there's so many layers underneath that. Like something's going on that I don't that I don't know. And the more I can get to know someone, a lot of times I can navigate through where that's coming from. speaker-0: So someone listening that thinks she is so complex with a thousand things on her plate, you just made it that much more complex. Like so she doesn't talk to a hundred people, she dissects a hundred people every day. Like Yeah. So at home do you try to create certain energy because I I've I know people that get right into the funk shui thing. speaker-1: Home is hard. At home is hard. speaker-0: But do you like is it something you consciously try to do at home? Like, I don't know, candles, like visual lines. Like d is there stuff you do at home to try to help with the energy or you're just kinda like I utilize it just to read my speaker-1: I stage a lot and then yeah, I do a lot of it just to kinda keep myself regulated. Yeah. kind of check in with the kids, that type of thing. not a lot beyond that yet. I still feel like I I had an astrology massage. I don't if you've ever heard of that. speaker-0: No, detail. speaker-1: Was so they do like a massage on you but then they go through like your astrology of like the time that you were born, your day, the month, like down to the minute, the year, like everything and kind of like your personality type based on all of that as they're giving you massage. I had no idea it was a thing. My husband scheduled it for me I think like three years ago. And in there, like she talked about there's a lot of untapped energy. that I haven't resourced, that I have an i an innate ability to see people in a different way. But I I'm speaker-0: I feel like I'm being bright right speaker-1: blocked. Like there's a lot more personal growth that needs to happen in order for me to fully have that open. Yeah. And so like I feel that. Like I I do, I love people. I love people on a deep level. I try to give the benefit of the doubt. And again it can come at a cost. Yeah. where the and that's the people pleasing side of me came in some speaker-0: So have you gotten into any breath work? speaker-1: I've done it a few times. We've had people that have come and done it with RBO at some of our events. I do it with a couple of people. I've got a good friend that I go to her for my energy sessions. there was a lot of personal things that happened and I feel like that actually opened the door for me to therapy, to talking about things because I would just suppress things, wouldn't share, wouldn't talk about it, and didn't really know where to start or where things were coming from and energetically calming my body down and having someone kind of like navigate where I was at. There's a lot that I was holding on to and that allowed me to then be more open in therapy and like ready to like talk and have a direction of where I wanted to go in therapy. speaker-0: We gotta get guests that does energy work. I really want to know about this energy thing. Like I I the breath work alone, like this is on such a surface level thing, but like just watching my heart rate after three minutes of like breath work. There's one day I did like fifteen minutes. I think my wife was out with a friend, my daughter was out at a friend's house, my son was at work, and I'm at home for fifteen minutes. I did like deep breath work and like When I dialed back in, I felt drunk. Mm-hmm. It's crazy. Like it's insane. And like the energy thing, it's like one of those like it's been on my kind of hit list where I'm like, I gotta look into this, right? But it's kinda like, okay, one step a time. speaker-1: Everything has energy. The plants, the food, people, everything's energy. speaker-0: whole grounding thing I just started getting into this summer and I hate being barefoot so I'm having a big speaker-1: I love it. speaker-0: I hate being barefoot. I just like it's just not my thing and just really trying to get used to it but it just kinda hard for me. Well there you go. speaker-1: Yeah, I think you're being called to take a look into that a little bit more. speaker-0: Yeah, become a little more barefoot, right? So every once in a while when I cut the grass, it's looking good. I know what's on the grass and I know how clean it is. I'm like, I go out there, my wife's like, Are you barefoot? I'm like, I'm grounding. And she's like, Well you're not supposed to be talking. I'm like, Really having a problem with this big speaker-1: I'd rather be barefoot. speaker-0: Yeah, I see that's not me at all. I'm that guy that puts on socks and shoes right up to the water, takes them off and puts them like up my socks on wet feet. Like it just I'm just that guy. There I feel like there's so much people have got out of this because you have so much going on and you're just a high performer altogether. Like literally between family, RBO, taking care of yourself. That that part I love is how you've even added that in and like made that a priority. Like speaker-1: still daily making it a priority. There's it's easy. I will definitely resort back to just forgetting about myself. speaker-0: So now that you're taking care of yourself speaker-1: Now that I'm doing it it's easier to see on the days how big of an effect it has on every aspect of my day. speaker-0: And that's what I was gonna talk about. do you find there's almost a hierarch hierarchy of priorities now? Yeah. Rather than just everything's in a basket, just pull it out. Like have you created like speaker-1: That's what in working with Gina and the Revitalized Womanhood, that's what I've gone through and I have a little calendar for each week that I go through and I'm so I'm prioritizing everything and there's days where I'm adding things and it's like okay if this doesn't get done my personality type before it was like I will stay up till three AM to get it done and now it's like it's okay. And I'm finding a lot more peace internally with that and then that allows me to show up more like to better during the day like I'm not feeling speaker-0: You show up for half an hour, do ten times what you would showing up for an hour and a half. that's what I'm finding with myself, right? Okay, we always end the podcast with a few questions. First one is, it gets everybody, what does Kayla wanna be asked? You're on a podium, cameras, lights, and you're like, Can one of these reporters please ask the perfect question? speaker-1: Gosh, that's hard. speaker-0: I tell all my guests like my in my perspective would be when is it enough? Because I feel like that's the question that would stump me because I don't know where I'm going. I don't know where I'm at. I don't know what my limit is yet. So it's like if you were to turn to me and ask like when is it enough? that'd be the perfect question for me because it get me thinking about myself. And I don't know if I could answer it. So it's not a question speaker-1: But yeah, say I'm sitting here going, I don't know how I'd even answer that one. speaker-0: Right? But that's a question that's supposed to stump you, right? Like speaker-1: Josh. What's your next question? Let me think on that one for a minute. speaker-0: What would you name this episode? So episode one, we didn't know what to name it. So like we I told him, I go, We're just gonna start asking every guest, like, what would you name this episode? speaker-1: I don't know, I feel like it's gotta be something about personal growth. speaker-0: It's it's a U question. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And I guess my previous question would be like what would you do less of or what would you do more of? speaker-0: I like that. That's a good one. That speaker-1: I feel like that ties a lot into me with my priorities of okay, looking back on the week prior and moving forward the next week in my priorities, like what would I do less of and what would I want to do more of? And the intention around what each day looks. speaker-0: I like that. I think that's a question everyone needs to ask themselves. Like assess a full week of yourself and say what would you do less of and what would you do more of? speaker-1: No. There's a lot of things I would do less of every week. speaker-0: That's awesome. okay, so open floor for you now. Look at the camera, chit chat with it, plug revitalized woman, RBO, who you are, personal branding, anything you got going on, what's next for Kayla. Honestly it's just completely your time. speaker-1: I don't know, I feel like if you're a business owner, find the right community and that could be RBO. going to join RBO dot com. If you are a b a woman struggling in business life, motherhood, finding yourself hitting up revitalized womanhood with Gina Tremor, I mean you can't go wrong. speaker-0: Any messages out there for moms, CEOs, anything that are kinda struggling? speaker-1: Yeah, dial it back. I think it's easy to get caught up into doing everything and doing a lot of things and I think just taking it literally one step at a time, implementing one thing at a time. I know for me, like even in joining Revitalized Womanhood and being around RBO, like I wanna do more and it's like, I should be doing this and this and this and this and this and then I wasn't taking action on any of it, right? I just felt overwhelmed and so I think stacking like just small things over time will compound more than doing Nothing. speaker-0: Perfect. So killer episode. This one was a lot of information. Like no honestly it was. It was it was complex and I think it speaker-1: Over. It's good. speaker-0: Yeah, but that's what I wanted. I wanted to really dial into someone that is doing it all. And kinda has a thousand different avenues with because it's not all linear. That's what the best part about the episode was. It's not all linear and I feel like a lot of women out there aren't linear. Like they have to jump from role to roll to roll. And really take that in, right? And then you add it on that, you're dealing with business owners and you have eight kids. It's not just two kids, it's eight kids. you know what I And then a hundred business owners, not one business owner, right? So kudos speaker-1: Thanks for the opportunity. speaker-0: to that. I appreciate ha you coming on. Another episode of Forget the Noise. This is the last podcast down in Utah, but every episode has been completely killer. We've connected with some great friends, Kayla here. Appreciate it. Besides that, stay tuned for next week on Forget the Noise podcast.