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We’ve Created a Culture of Narcissists | Episode 21 · Sincerely American

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  Honestly the theme of this episode so far has been
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  narcissism. The whole wedding culture.
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  It's actually the same for baby culture too.
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  It has become the most narcissistic pursuit possible.
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  Like it is insane. The the balloons like with the
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  fireworks and it's like. It's for social media content,
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  like that's what it is. Hi sincerely sisters, and
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  welcome back to Sincerely American.
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  It has been a busy week you guys.
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  I have been moving. I am exhausted.
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  Anyone who's moved with a three-year old just knows you
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  have to like get things unpacked very quickly.
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  You have to get your house in order.
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  And so I've just been non-stop unpacking.
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  For those of you wondering, I am in the same like area.
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  I have not like moved out of the DC area.
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  I'm just moving 50 million times in my life and I'll go into it
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  later for my propaganda. But anyway, so if I'm a little
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  more tired, please give me a little grace over here.
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  No, I love it. Jamie's Superwoman.
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  Imagine moving cuz everybody knows that's like one of the
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  most stressful things you can possibly do in life is move.
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  And then on top of that, she's packing everything up and then
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  she has a daughter to take care of.
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  Like mostly like when I've moved, obviously I don't have
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  children yet and I still consider it to be so hard.
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  So props to you Jamie for for being able to do all.
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  Of that I'm lucky my family's been so helpful like my mom, my
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  sister-in-law shouted to Caroline so helpful to Drake and
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  I so I'm very thankful for that and I only have one child but I
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  was thinking about like if you're doing a move like a
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  family of five and you don't have anyone helping you I'm like
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  God bless you I think that is the most difficult thing in.
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  Life. No, it is.
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  Imagine all the clothes to put up the rearranging.
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  It's yeah, it's hard. It's crazy.
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  OK, Speaking of family one, we have some really funny things,
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  but I feel like we need to do first a serious topic because I
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  saw this and I feel like it was almost rage bait for this
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  podcast. And so this is a serious one,
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  but then we're going to get into all funnies.
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  So girls just hang in. But I think I I honestly think
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  it's very good to cover these topics as well.
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  So New York magazine, I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen this.
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  They published an article titled I Regret having Children, and
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  it's about women who wish they had chosen differently.
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  To be honest I did not read the article because no way am I
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  paying to read that. It's behind a pay wall.
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  But it went viral and a bunch of like clips got posted from it.
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  And from what I understand it's the same old same old.
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  They interviewed some woman and I've heard about this subreddit.
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  There's a subreddit that exists of women who have children and
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  they talk nonstop about how they regretted that decision.
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  And I wanted to cut to this particular paragraph because I
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  just like was honestly so disgusted by this.
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  I just feel like it needs to be shared and we need to discuss
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  this. So in the article it says when
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  they were interviewing this woman.
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  I am not the parent my son needs.
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  I don't feel anything for him and I don't want to wait it out
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  for years and walk out when he has actual memories.
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  Right now he's very young and you can fake things but I can
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  only fake it so much. So this woman is talking about
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  leaving her son. This propaganda, it like
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  actually there's been so many disgusting things published by
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  these liberal magazines throughout the years.
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  We could go on and on. This is the the most disgusting
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  thing. I think this is more disgusting
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  than the abortion propaganda. Like this is a real child
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  existing today where a mom is writing and discussing leaving
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  her own child behind. I, I just, I don't like
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  honestly, we might, we might have, should have put this in
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  the eye of no words because it's truly hard to have words for how
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  discussing this is. Yeah.
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  You know, what's so interesting though, is like, I, I do believe
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  that this woman feels this way, but more often than not, like, I
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  don't really hear a ton of women saying this.
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  Like normally you'll hear women who are like putting their baby
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  up for adoption, like experience the birthing process and then
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  like really connect with with their baby and decide to keep
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  their child or like, you know, nothing's better than becoming a
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  mother. Like it's just a new exciting
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  journey. I hear this more often than not.
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  Even women who weren't particularly ready to have
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  children or didn't think that they were ready tend to lean
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  into motherhood once they become moms.
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  And so this this is like a weird propaganda thing that they're
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  propping up. And it's it's a sentiment that's
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  probably, you know, not very common, but it's just of course
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  going to validate this like feminist girl boss culture of
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  put yourself first. It's OK to be a narcissist.
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  Like, you can completely hurt everybody else in your life,
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  including yourself, and we're just going to uplift yourself,
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  sabotaging behavior because I'm a girl's girl and I'm gonna
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  support you no matter everything, no matter what you
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  do in this life. And so it's just, it's
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  discussing it. I think also, though, Jamie,
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  women who do this are particularly evil to me though,
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  because you're making these public statements that your kid
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  could potentially read one day. And imagine the mental damage
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  that that does to that particular child who had to read
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  that their mother didn't want them.
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  The one sole protector and nurturer that you have that
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  brought you into this life is making public statements that
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  they don't want you. You don't deserve to have
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  children because do you know how many millions and millions of
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  couples now can't conceive in this country and all across the
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  world and you have the audacity to go to some sleazy tabloid or
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  some stupid ass magazine to talk about how you regret having
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  children? I don't know.
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  I just think that not only is this selfish behavior, it's just
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  truly evil that this woman has created a life and then decides
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  that she wants to abandon it and not only abandoned her son in
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  silence, but also go and talk a bit about it, the whole
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  situation. And these are the same people,
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  Cameron, that you know, all day are going to therapy talking
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  about their trauma that they've been through.
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  Like we all know that group of women who nonstop is the victim
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  of everything. They're all into that therapy
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  culture. Meanwhile, they're literally
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  putting out propaganda that their kids could read one day.
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  And you know, I want to say this as well.
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  I think the selfish culture that you touched on is the most
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  important piece about this because yes, being a mother, as
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  someone who is a mom, I know it is the most selfless thing you
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  can do. You have to live for someone
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  else and it comes with a lot of challenges and obstacles.
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  I'm always the first to say that, but it is the most
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  rewarding thing you can possibly do.
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  But of course, these selfish people are so miserable because
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  they can't live for anyone but themselves.
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  And I love what she said in that where she's like, oh, do I have
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  to fake it? Yes, like you do.
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  I guess you do if you can't feel that deeply within you, if
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  you're honestly, I think that's sociopathic behavior.
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  And if you can't feel that, then be an adult, have responsibility
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  and live for someone other than yourself for one time in your
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  life and fake it for your son. Be a good mom for your son.
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  Fake it till you make it. Do you know how many parents,
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  like, I think like some of these people just think like, oh,
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  parenting just comes so easily and naturally to everyone.
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  No, it does not at all. There's plenty of challenges.
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  People have different challenges with sleep schedules.
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  You know, I have a toddler that has tantrums.
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  Like these are normal things that you go through that you
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  have to, you know, sometimes you got to fake it and get through
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  different things. But what's so crazy to me is
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  like, even though, you know, we've, I've gone through the
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  terrible twos I've gone through, you know, different things of
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  being a mom, you almost forget about those like bad little
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  parts where you have to get through those challenges because
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  I like you see your daughter and all like achieving all these
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  things and doing like the cutest things possible.
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  And all of that feeling goes away where you're like, wow,
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  maybe that was challenging, but it's so rewarding at the end of
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  the day because there's just love for your child that you
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  can't have for anything else in this world.
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  Not for a dog, not for your cat, not for any of your pets.
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  Honestly, like your love for your spouse is even different
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  than your love for your child. But the selfless, sorry, the
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  selfish behavior is exactly what leads to this mentality and this
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  negative outlook. I am a huge believer.
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  I think we've done this for propaganda that we're not
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  falling for that mindset is every single thing.
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  And so if you go into it with this mindset, like these women
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  who write on these Reddit pages about how much they regret
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  having their children, if you have that mindset, then yes,
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  you're going to have a very negative experience being a mom.
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  But instead, if you choose, like you said, Cameron, to be like, I
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  have been gifted with a child. How amazing is that?
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  There's women who who have not had that opportunity, whether
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  they haven't met the right person or they're dealing with
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  fertility struggles. And God has blessed me with this
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  beautiful child and it's my job. This is truly what women were
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  made for, for our bodies were made for for raising our
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  children. And it's just, it's like such a
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  beautiful opportunity. And like I I said, it comes with
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  its challenges, but taking advantage of that and having a
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  positive mindset is that's what's going to make you the
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  best. That's and no one's going to be
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  a perfect. That's a good point because you
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  just said it a positive mindset. These women are looking at life
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  glass half empty of like, oh, this is taking something away
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  from me. Now I have to live for something
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  else. I don't have this freedom.
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  You actually have more freedom when you're actually growing up.
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  You become an adult and you grow into yourself.
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  You have more life experience under your belt and you can you
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  can look at it from the glass half full and be like, wow, I
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  actually have a legacy to continue.
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  I can instill my values in this child.
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  I can reward them and provide them with the greatest
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  experiences and wisdom that life has to offer.
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  And God chose me as this child's mom.
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  Like you could look at it from that, but it's just this.
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  We've rewarded this narcissistic mentality where these people are
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  so hypersensitive to criticism. That's why you said with the
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  therapy culture, they're going to go in there, They're going to
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  play victim mentality of, Oh, poor me, I don't want my kid
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  anymore. It was because I was raised like
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  this and I'm not ready for this. And it's like we've rewarded
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  this selfish behavior of like people can't inconvenience
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  themselves for their friends anymore.
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  We have to set all these boundaries, but they're toxic
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  boundaries and the list goes on. And so that's the only thing
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  I'll say about that. I think it's a mindset problem
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  and it's obviously a deep character flaw like of the way
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  that she went about it, publicizing these sentiments.
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  But on top of that, it's just we've rewarded this very selfish
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  thing where they've replace God with themselves, and so they're
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  at the center of their own life. And so therefore they think that
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  the orbit in the entire world revolves around them.
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  And the last thing I'll say about this too, was in this
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  article, they presented like, oh, are you going to choose to
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  have money, lazy Saturdays, free time, or are you going to choose
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  then to have children? I just kind of also feel like
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  that's like a false decision. Like you, just because you have
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  a child doesn't mean you can't enjoy life.
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  Like actually, it makes so many of more of the experiences even
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  richer, like even greater. I can't say that enough.
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  And yes, like I said, maybe you are not going to sleep as well
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  and you're going to have to deal with some tantrums.
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  And obviously, as kids get older, I haven't experienced yet
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  it, it comes with like the school, the, the soccer
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  practices and you know, that crazy lifestyle, but you still
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  can have so much fun. You can go out to brunch with
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  your friends. You can get a babysitter and go
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  out on dates with your husband. It's all about mindset and
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  making it work with your life. And I, I just absolutely hate
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  this. Like your life ends when you
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  have kids. It's because I like I always
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  talk about like my life began when I had Vivian like I and I
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  just signed it so gross that like this liberal media, of
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  course, like you said at the beginning, I think that's very
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  important. I think this is a very small
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  minority amount of women who feel this way because most women
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  feel similar to me that maybe they're scared when they find
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  out that they're pregnant, but it becomes the best thing in
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  their life. But of course, I think it just
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  says everything about the media that that's the stories they
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  choose to highlight the most negative narcissistic people.
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  And by the way, I bet if they didn't have kids, they would
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  just be like negative miserable people regardless.
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  So like, I think that's everything you need to know.
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  Like it whether they have kids or not, they're just negative
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  terrible people. Anyway that like I said, rage
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  bait for this podcast, totally changing course to tik toker.
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  Eli Rallo. I see her post a lot.
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  She's like a very hardcore feminist, but she's very popular
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  on TikTok and I've seen this trend as well.
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  Not just from her, I've seen this from a lot of people where
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  people are now listing their rules for their wedding and
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  we'll roll the clip. The last time I posted rules for
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  my wedding it was approximately one week after we had gotten
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  engaged and we hadn't planned anything yet and that was two
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  years ago. So this is the official rules
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  for my wedding. We are four months out.
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  Four months in like 2 weeks. Also I'm glad this didn't post
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  yesterday because nothing was uploading because I made I
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  posted it on Instagram but I've since made some changes.
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  OK, let's get into it. OK, Cameron, have you ever
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  gotten sent a list of rules when you're going to someone's
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  wedding? Oh my gosh, I mean, what a
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  treat. Like she sounds like such a
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  delight to be, to be around. Honestly, no, you know what?
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  I'm glad that humans have free will because if I was invited to
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  this wedding, I would just simply not go.
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  Like I'm, I'm being completely honest.
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  I wouldn't show up like, who do these people think that they
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  are, Jamie? Like you, they.
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  Think they're they think that. They know, they literally think
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  they're Princess Diana where it's like you have royalty laws
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  to abide by and like customs like who the F are you?
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  Like actually like where is this girl from?
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  Like who knows? Who knows?
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  That's like me being from Kentucky and I'm like, OK, but
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  I'm like from Kentucky and I'm like.
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  Here's a list of demands that I'm going to make you do at my
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  wedding. And it's like she's from bum F
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  Kentucky. What are you doing?
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  Like that's what I think about this girl.
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  I'm like, who are you to be doing this to your guest?
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  One, they can't kiss each other on the dance floor.
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  What the actual F are you talking about?
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  You have to put your phone in a bin.
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  They can't take photos of your wedding dress and then they have
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  to you have to personally approve their posts.
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  It's like shut the F up. I'm not going then whatever
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  happened to just like rushing to get married?
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  You love that person so much. It's only about you.
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  You too. You have everybody there to
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  experience it. It's like you're taking the fun
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  out of it. You're just absolutely such a
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  bored generic person. So I don't know why the hell you
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  think that you can have all these rules.
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  And honestly, here's the thing too, though, like she's a
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  person. It's her day, she's paying for
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  it. I guess it's it's her decision
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  to make the rules, right? Like, I understand that side of
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  the coin, but then understand if people don't want to go or they
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  think that you have a stick shoved so far up your bum that
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  they just don't want to be around you because like.
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  I like that you said because you're like being a Nazi.
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  Like about about what they can and can't do at your wedding.
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  Like they have to walk on egg shells to please you.
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  Bridezilla. I would never want to be around
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  that. And she goes no shots.
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  People can't effing take shots at your wedding.
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  No ABS, Jamie. No, this, this girl and me, we
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  would never be friends. This would never happen.
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  I would never even if I was an acquaintance.
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  Not going. I'm just not going to that
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  wedding. I'm not spending time on that.
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  Quickly I like that you said that.
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  Shove a stick up your bum instead of butt cuz we say that
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  for Vivi we always say. Bum.
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  I'm trying to not cuss. I've taught.
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  I've taught probably 20 times in this episode already from these
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  topics cuz the audacity just blows my mind with these people.
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  But I made it a New Year's resolution not to cuss.
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  And Vivi, if you're watching, it's Bum, Yeah, I wanna watch
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  Mommy and Cam Cam. Or what did she say?
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  She's like, Mommy, I wanna watch you and Cam.
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  Cam. Yeah, that is a true story.
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  She loves watching cuz she loves Cameron, so she thinks the
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  podcast is really cute. I don't really like ever.
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  I'll just show her like a very small.
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  Clip tell them that she didn't love me.
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  Today though, I tried to FaceTime her and I tried to get
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  her attention. She was like stonewalling me,
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  acted like I didn't even exist on this planet.
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  I'm like OK Queen like go off like I love it be hard again.
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  Keep them coming, keep them wanting more.
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  Like I love her. She's such a diva.
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  But anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to like completely go off.
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  I was on the broadest side. Honestly, the theme of this
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  episode so far has been narcissism.
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  It's like the the whole wedding culture.
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  It's actually the same for baby culture too.
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  It has become the most narcissistic pursuit possible.
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  Like it is insane. And it's become all about
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  getting content. Like I swear that's like now the
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  whole point of a wedding, the whole point of the baby shower,
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  the gender review. We went over this the last
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  episode, how now there's like, like people will have, you know,
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  the engagement shower, the proposal, everyone needs to be
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  there for The Bachelorette destination.
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  Then they'll have the then they'll have this wedding where
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  then they have 50 rules. And it's it kind of reminds me
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  of the people during COVID that were like the Karen's quote, UN
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  quote that get you must pull your mask.
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  You know what those people like? I swear it's like a power trip
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  that they're getting. And it's like, yes, the you are
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  the most important person on your wedding day.
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  It's about the bride. But people have taken this to a
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  level that is like just uncanning.
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  Like it's, it's like frankly, like discussing.
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  And you're right. Like I'm like, I don't want
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  like, I don't want pardon in that.
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  Like I just. Jamie sent me this and tell the
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  sincerely sisters she sent me this text and all caps.
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  She's like Cameron, you would hate her like.
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  And then I watched. I was to say I don't like this
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  bit. I'm like.
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  I'm like, no, you were like 20 seconds of my life.
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  Seriously. I was like I just wasted 20
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  seconds of my life watching this video about like also.
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  Is she sending this list to her guests?
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  Like imagine being too like, is this like the wedding
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  invitation? You open up and there's like.
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  Imagine the groomsmen's chat without the groom at the moment
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  watching that video being like, are we sure that we want to tell
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  him? If I open that up, I just toss
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  it in the trunk. I've also seen this similar
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  culture when people have a baby where they're like, only this
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  person's allowed to visit. Only at this time, only I'm not
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  allowing this person into the room.
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  I'm like, can you just have your baby and like celebrate with
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  your family? Like it's really like not that
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  deep. Like, I mean it like it should
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  be about the baby. It should be about the wedding.
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  Like just this is out of control.
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  And by the way, the same people who would make this list are the
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  same people that are like, come to my destination wedding and
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  spend like $7000 to be at my wedding.
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  And then I'm also going to micromanage you the entire time.
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  And also you're not allowed to bring your kids, but you're not
• 18:19
  allowed to have your cell phone. So like if there's something
• 18:21
  going on like with your child, you can't even like figure that
• 18:23
  out. And like, I'm all for like
• 18:25
  getting off of your phone. Like I agree it's probably like
• 18:27
  tacky to be on your phone the whole time.
• 18:29
  But like, I think it's just like, that's just common
• 18:32
  knowledge and like being polite at a wedding.
• 18:34
  And I don't think you need to like micromanage every second of
• 18:37
  your own wedding. And it's like, set your dress
• 18:40
  code and like have people have a good time.
• 18:42
  Like, and let me tell you, the best weddings I've ever been to
• 18:46
  are the ones where they take themselves the least seriously.
• 18:49
  Anyone who? Takes themselves.
• 18:51
  So seriously at the wedding, it's like not fun.
• 18:54
  The best weddings are when it's like like just being honest.
• 18:57
  Maybe people have had too much to drink.
• 18:58
  They're staying out on the dance floor till like 4:00 AM and it's
• 19:01
  like like I love like a Bryce and her friend's wedding.
• 19:04
  Like she like went so late into the night and like just let
• 19:06
  everybody have fun and sat people at like the fun tables.
• 19:09
  Like, I don't know, I just think it's like the best way to be.
• 19:12
  Those are like the best weddings in my I.
• 19:13
  Completely agree, I also remember going to a wedding of
• 19:17
  my roommate from college. Her and her high school
• 19:21
  sweetheart got married and same same vibe.
• 19:23
  Like they, they went out, they hung lights in this like
• 19:27
  beautiful area, a bunch of acres of land.
• 19:30
  There was like a really pretty barn danced all night.
• 19:34
  There was not this many rules like getting the makeup done.
• 19:37
  It was so nonchalant. People like taking behind the
• 19:40
  scenes photos and it, it's just, it was so beautiful because they
• 19:44
  had been together for so long. And so you really just felt the
• 19:47
  love in the room. Like I feel like with a wedding
• 19:49
  like this, that takes away from the couple because there's so
• 19:53
  many rules. You're being micromanaged all
• 19:55
  the time. And I, I just think that they've
• 19:58
  gotten away from the true meaning of like what a wedding?
• 20:03
  Should be it should be about the couple.
• 20:05
  You should have family and friends there to witness it, to
• 20:08
  support you and love you through that.
• 20:09
  Not it's not like some grandiose like this huge event where
• 20:15
  you're like the center. That's another thing too, not to
• 20:18
  like completely ramble, but also you mentioned having babies,
• 20:21
  like the gender reveals. Gender reveals are becoming like
• 20:24
  that. I think with like the the
• 20:26
  balloons like with the fireworks and it's like.
• 20:29
  It's for social media content, like that's what it is.
• 20:32
  It's yeah, and it's all about yes, and it's all about the
• 20:35
  couple. It's like not even about the
• 20:37
  child. It's about the couple at that
• 20:39
  party being the center of attention.
• 20:41
  Yeah, I think people are moving in that direction now because a
• 20:44
  lot of people are just so sick of this.
• 20:46
  Like, I think people have wedding fatigue.
• 20:48
  I know, especially when. You wedding.
• 20:49
  Industrial Complex. The wedding industrial complex
• 20:54
  is a real thing. Like it's like churn out
• 20:57
  hundreds of thousands of dollars.
• 20:59
  The photographer, The venue, The caterers, the venue.
• 21:05
  The fireworks at the end of the night the there were.
• 21:08
  Some lobbyists in there like working out this wedding
• 21:12
  industrial complex. It's big.
• 21:14
  The planner. The planner is normally more
• 21:16
  expensive than booking the actual venue these days if you
• 21:19
  get a good wedding. If you want to make a dollar,
• 21:21
  get into. Weddings.
• 21:23
  Yep. That is my biggest
• 21:24
  recommendation. OK, now this video, I, I, I
• 21:29
  can't run. I don't think you think this
• 21:30
  video is as funny as I do. Like I literally like, I don't
• 21:33
  know why. I just like Burns.
• 21:34
  Which one to? Tears So basically you guys know
• 21:39
  like there's like this self diagnosis trend where people are
• 21:42
  like I have autism, I have ADHD like everyone has something now
• 21:47
  and they've like a lot of them like haven't even gone to a
• 21:49
  doctor. And that being said, let's be
• 21:51
  honest, like with our, with our healthcare system in this day
• 21:55
  and age, like like a lot of people are just getting
• 21:57
  diagnosis for the sake of to like push some pills.
• 21:59
  Like I, I mean that like it's like everyone has depression,
• 22:03
  anxiety, ADHD and like. Jamie, Jamie finds this funny.
• 22:07
  But the truth is, is that like, this is funny to me in a
• 22:11
  different way because I'm such a hypochondriac.
• 22:14
  Like I Google my symptoms and think that I'm suffering from
• 22:17
  some terminal. Illness.
• 22:17
  No, I do, as I actually am a bit of a hypochondriac.
• 22:20
  Like everyday I think something's wrong with me.
• 22:22
  I'm like, oh, I had a heart palpitation.
• 22:24
  What does that mean? Like, oh, I'm having a heart
• 22:27
  attack. Remember when you like got
• 22:31
  anxious and went to the hospital?
• 22:34
  No, they really. Got anxious and I thought she
• 22:36
  was having a panic attack. I've actually done that before
• 22:39
  too and like thought she was having a heart attack and like
• 22:41
  OK. So I will tell them real quick
• 22:43
  like 2 minutes story. I was having these, like, really
• 22:46
  bad heart palpitations before bed one night and like to the
• 22:49
  point where I couldn't breathe. And then I was like psyching
• 22:51
  myself out to the point where I took myself to the ER.
• 22:55
  They were like, sweetie, you have an anxiety attack or no,
• 23:01
  prescribe me. Prescribe me anxiety medication.
• 23:06
  OK. The anxiety medication was
• 23:08
  nothing but like, Benadryl on crack.
• 23:10
  Like all it did was put me to bed.
• 23:12
  All it did was knock me out. And they were like, honey, how's
• 23:14
  things going at home? And I was like, oh great, how
• 23:18
  are things going 2. $100 How are things going at work not?
• 23:22
  Pressing at all? I'm actually like a Gin Z like
• 23:24
  social media content creator. Like, I'm not out here like
• 23:27
  going through basic training. I'm positive it was because he
• 23:29
  went on a flight with turbulence and it like stressed you out.
• 23:34
  So like weak minded we are like literally like a few bumps on a
• 23:38
  flight and. Like 1 bump on a war?
• 23:40
  No, if I have one bump on a flight, bet your ass I'm texting
• 23:44
  you and I'm like Jamie. Terms like to fly into like like
• 23:48
  used to like fly into war zones and drop bombs, be shot at and
• 23:52
  now like choppers and no, I have two bumps and people were
• 23:56
  getting were like they were literally.
• 23:57
  Coming out of choppers in Vietnam and they were able.
• 24:01
  To survive. That anyway, go ahead.
• 24:03
  We are getting. OK, well it's funny so I don't
• 24:06
  care. Sincerely, sisters.
• 24:07
  Long story short. This falls into I agree this
• 24:11
  falls into that like group. This just takes it to a new
• 24:14
  level. You guys this game across my
• 24:16
  feed will roll the club. So for our listening audience,
• 24:20
  it says yes, ADHD and neurodivergence is a disability
• 24:25
  and you can pre born if needed. And this woman, I'm sorry, she's
• 24:30
  throwing her bag onto the seat. But the best part is I went to
• 24:35
  the comment section and I guess I'm just like, please tell me
• 24:39
  like sometimes you see these like ridiculously absurd videos
• 24:42
  and you go to the comment section like, yes, Queen.
• 24:44
  And everyone was like, actually this is really problematic.
• 24:47
  And she said, what is neurodivergence?
• 24:54
  Like anyone? Is it like, how do you even
• 24:56
  categorize that? I don't know.
• 25:00
  By the way, let me look like someone who's like actually in a
• 25:03
  wheelchair that has a quote, UN quote disability and who
• 25:07
  actually has a disability and they're on the wheelchair and
• 25:10
  they're going in and this woman just has.
• 25:12
  Neurodivergent describes people's whose brains function,
• 25:15
  learn, and process information differently from the societal or
• 25:18
  typical standard. So basically it's like ADHD,
• 25:20
  dyslexia to rats or autism is what they're talking about.
• 25:24
  And doesn't she have ADHD? So that's what she's saying she
• 25:27
  got on the flight first priority boarding for ADHD, right?
• 25:31
  Like priority boarding for a disability is for people in
• 25:34
  wheelchairs intimately in a wheelchair?
• 25:36
  Oh anybody? Does it need more help?
• 25:38
  Active duty military pregnant women like seniors who have
• 25:44
  trouble. Walking, You have young kids.
• 25:45
  Need help with their baggage? Their luggage?
• 25:47
  Yes. Have you have strollers?
• 25:49
  ADHD genie? What?
• 25:55
  What? I just like, you know, these the
• 26:00
  gate agent who's hearing this, like, what's your disability?
• 26:03
  Or she probably can't even ask. But even if she told her she
• 26:06
  goes, I can't say anything. I'm gonna be sued tomorrow if I
• 26:09
  say actually no, you're not getting on.
• 26:11
  Cuz people are such, they're so soft, like anything.
• 26:15
  This reminds me of the people who like rent the scooters that
• 26:18
  are meant for like old people or like I said, if you actually
• 26:20
  have a disability and can't walk, but they're just like so
• 26:23
  obese at Disneyland that they rent the scooters and like take
• 26:26
  up room. And then I love like the woke
• 26:28
  people like get in fights about it because they're like, well,
• 26:31
  we're like the level of like wokeness, if you're like taking
• 26:34
  away the privilege of the people who are actually disabled versus
• 26:37
  if fatness is actually like a, where it ranks on the hierarchy
• 26:42
  of oppression or whatever. And so I just like, I love, like
• 26:44
  the war that happens it, it's given the same energy to me.
• 26:48
  Yeah, it's like the yeah, it's like the woke ISM Olympics where
• 26:51
  it's like or like the I don't even know.
• 26:53
  I wanted to call it a disability Olympics because it do you
• 26:56
  remember like you could only get a job if you filled out if
• 26:59
  you're like Indo Pacific or black with severe autism.
• 27:03
  It's like, oh, you're hired. And it's like, it's, that's how
• 27:06
  far we've gone in a society where we've just got.
• 27:09
  By the way. OK, go ahead.
• 27:10
  If you have ADHD, wouldn't you want to like get on the plane
• 27:13
  last? Cuz like, if you're like hyper,
• 27:16
  you know what I. Mean Oh yeah, you're like
• 27:18
  sitting there, like stomping your feet or like you have like
• 27:21
  some tick or you're like ultra like looking around at your
• 27:24
  surroundings 24/7 like getting bored or antsy.
• 27:28
  Yeah. I don't know why she would get
• 27:29
  on the plane. First, no, but let's be honest,
• 27:31
  the this goes to show you how like terrible our whole like
• 27:35
  flight system is these days. It's just like literally a mess.
• 27:38
  Everyone is competing for the carry on baggage space.
• 27:42
  People are. Making actually.
• 27:43
  Fake disabilities in order to get on 1st and put their little
• 27:47
  carry in a carry on bag up in the slot.
• 27:49
  Because I swear every single flight I'm on there is like a
• 27:52
  full on fight that happens when the speaker comes up.
• 27:55
  Hi, we're full, we're full. You now have to check your bag,
• 27:58
  which is why I don't do carry on.
• 27:59
  That's like propaganda. I'm not.
• 28:01
  Falling for Yeah, I think All in all, Secretary Sean Duffy said
• 28:05
  it best. Like, you know, act
• 28:07
  appropriately, dress appropriately with standards and
• 28:10
  some class. Like, I think we've just gone so
• 28:13
  far downhill as a society. And also like men don't help
• 28:16
  women with their bags, like their overhead bags anymore.
• 28:19
  They don't dress. Yeah, they don't dress for the
• 28:22
  occasion. Like if you look at older photos
• 28:24
  when like first class tickets were just becoming a thing, like
• 28:28
  the not the tuxes, but like the suits that men would wear with
• 28:33
  their hair, like freshly cut and all styled women had on like the
• 28:37
  most beautiful dresses or like suit sets.
• 28:40
  I don't know. It's just such a vibe.
• 28:41
  Can we get back to that? Like I don't want to see you in
• 28:43
  your sweatpants. I don't want ADHP or your ADH.
• 28:46
  Bob Pajama, bottom people. Going on before pregnant women
• 28:49
  or women with strollers that are like having screaming kids, like
• 28:53
  trying to regulate their own emotions, like trying not to cry
• 28:57
  with anxiety. Getting on this flight with a
• 28:59
  bunch of kids, like can we get, can we give it back to those and
• 29:02
  like cater to that part of society?
• 29:04
  Why are we catering towards your, your neurodivergence?
• 29:07
  Like that makes no sense to me. Your neurodivergence.
• 29:11
  We're all neurodivergent, like we all think that imagine.
• 29:15
  Being like I can't read a book and I I flip words backwards.
• 29:19
  I'm dyslexic. I need to board the.
• 29:21
  Neurodivergent is the equivalent in the mental health community.
• 29:25
  It's the equivalent to queer in the LGBTQ community.
• 29:28
  It's for people that don't necessarily even fall into
• 29:30
  anything, but they need like some title to be a part of this
• 29:33
  community. Speaking of the LGBTQ community,
• 29:37
  you see the transition I did there?
• 29:39
  I have no words. OK, so this came across my desk
• 29:46
  AKA my TikTok feed. So popular YouTube.
• 29:50
  I'm sure a lot of girls are going to know who she is.
• 29:52
  I actually mentioned her in the last episode, Aspen Ovard and I
• 29:55
  used to watch this girl all the time like I she's someone that I
• 29:58
  like. I remember that whole YouTube
• 30:00
  era back in like 2016. This girl was like a travel
• 30:04
  YouTube. She like made her wedding a big
• 30:07
  part of her content and then she had children and that was a big
• 30:09
  part of her content. She kind of became one of these
• 30:11
  like mommy vloggers. Well, she's gone in a completely
• 30:14
  a different direction. So recently in a TikTok she
• 30:17
  explained her divorce. She got a divorce like over a
• 30:20
  year ago and that came out with shocking to the community.
• 30:24
  And now did people follow her husband?
• 30:27
  Yeah. OK.
• 30:28
  So did they have like a couples account or something?
• 30:31
  Yeah, they had a they had a joint couples account and then
• 30:35
  they got a divorce. And that was like, I remember
• 30:37
  when that came out, actually I was like in shock by it.
• 30:39
  Like I was like, what? Because they kind of gave like
• 30:41
  conservative vibes, you know, just like they're from Utah.
• 30:45
  So they come from like, you know, I don't think she's
• 30:47
  actually Mormon, but the kind of like within the Utah culture,
• 30:50
  you know, people are very conservative, have a lot of
• 30:52
  kids, get married young. So it was kind of shocking when
• 30:55
  they had a divorce because they did so many things together and
• 30:57
  it was such a big part of their content, their marriage.
• 31:00
  And now we're a year and a bit down the line, maybe 2 years
• 31:03
  actually after the divorce. And she's now explaining that
• 31:07
  she's in a polyamorous relationship with a married
• 31:11
  couple, but she doesn't like to put labels on it.
• 31:14
  Let's roll the clip. I actually do apply this to my
• 31:16
  relationship. It's kind of long, but it's like
• 31:18
  basically about not labeling like my sexuality or my
• 31:21
  relationship or whatever because there are so many people that
• 31:23
  are like, oh, you're in like this type of relationship or
• 31:25
  like this or this. Like those things by definition
• 31:28
  are like not not true. But also people in a monogamous
• 31:32
  relationship don't go around being like, Oh yeah, I'm like in
• 31:34
  a hetero monogamous relationship.
• 31:35
  Like you guys know, I just, I'm like, I don't need to put
• 31:38
  certain words on certain things. Like I'm just happy with my
• 31:40
  people. I'm loved.
• 31:41
  Everybody feels good and like, that's all it is to me.
• 31:44
  Yeah, I have referred to as my girlfriend, obviously, if I was
• 31:48
  referencing her online for the past year or so.
• 31:51
  And it's not that that word like doesn't fit, but I definitely
• 31:53
  think of them as like partners. Labels are just like such an
• 31:56
  Internet thing, like it can help people understand themselves.
• 31:59
  Like some people need it. For me, I just feel like any
• 32:01
  type of label like that for like sexuality, relationship,
• 32:04
  whatever, it's just like putting yourself in a box and I just
• 32:06
  don't feel the need to do that. It's just so easy to feel like
• 32:08
  pressure when you not for like me, I don't really feel pressure
• 32:11
  from like the Internet, but I feel like when people are online
• 32:13
  and they see everyone putting themselves in these boxes with
• 32:15
  these labels. And I'm just here to remind
• 32:17
  everyone that you do not have to do that.
• 32:19
  Just like who you like. And that is what it is, I think.
• 32:22
  OK, Cameron, for context, this woman has three children.
• 32:25
  I feel like, OK, so you mentioned that she's a mom from
• 32:29
  Utah. Like, you have a lot of moms
• 32:32
  from Utah and like, specifically in the Mormon community to like,
• 32:36
  kind of embracing this like sexual deviancy in a way where
• 32:41
  they're like openly admitting to like, these polyamorous
• 32:45
  relationships and like participating in threesomes and
• 32:48
  swinging. And honestly, when you first
• 32:51
  brought this to my attention, it makes me question like, is there
• 32:55
  some entity or some group that's trying to like defame and make
• 33:01
  the Mormon church look bad? You have so many people
• 33:04
  surrounding like the Mormon church and they're all like kind
• 33:07
  of degenerates in this way where they're like really like airing
• 33:12
  out their their like sexual dirty laundry.
• 33:15
  I've like never seen this before.
• 33:16
  Only in this like Utah community have I really seen this and it
• 33:20
  makes me think. I'm like, shoot that secret not
• 33:22
  to be. Yeah, it's like, not to be a
• 33:24
  conspiracy theorist, but also I'm like you just this is way
• 33:29
  too common where people are either like capitalizing off of
• 33:32
  this because it's like more socially acceptable and you're
• 33:34
  getting more clout from it because like, it's engaging.
• 33:37
  People are engaging with that content more.
• 33:39
  So maybe they're like following the same format or there's
• 33:42
  something much deeper going on and there is like some like
• 33:46
  targeted campaign utilizing all these people in this like Utah
• 33:49
  orbit associated with the Mormon church to make them look bad.
• 33:52
  I like, I swear by that. Cam, you need to get on the case
• 33:56
  and invest. I know I should I I wouldn't be
• 33:58
  surprised by that, honestly. Like I think a lot of times, you
• 34:01
  know that I think with there's a lot of media out there that's
• 34:04
  constantly trying to tear down different churches within
• 34:07
  Christianity. So honestly that wouldn't shock
• 34:09
  me. I think like going back to the
• 34:12
  actual topic on hand that we have here, so getting a divorce,
• 34:18
  whether it ends up being the right thing or not for your
• 34:21
  family is very traumatic for children.
• 34:23
  Like it is like anyone who's gotten divorced, even if they
• 34:25
  don't regret their divorce and it might have been the right
• 34:27
  decision for them and their marriage, it's very hard on
• 34:31
  kids. Like that is a tragic thing for
• 34:33
  kids. Every single statistic and data
• 34:36
  shows that kids do better when you have a man and a woman in
• 34:39
  the household. And that's whether you believe
• 34:40
  in science, whether you believe in God, whether you believe in
• 34:43
  both, like me, That is what is intended.
• 34:46
  That's why you need a man and a woman to have a child.
• 34:48
  And so all the data backs that up and that's not saying that if
• 34:52
  just because your parents are a lot of people grow up in
• 34:54
  divorced homes. It's very common almost I think
• 34:56
  50% of divorce, sorry, 50% of marriages and in divorce
• 34:59
  nowadays, but it is better to have two parents in the
• 35:02
  household when that can work, obviously.
• 35:04
  So this woman already, you know, put her kids through this
• 35:06
  traumatic experience of having a divorce with their dad and now
• 35:11
  only a year or so afterwards is bringing them into a polyamorous
• 35:18
  relationship. And I love how specifically in
• 35:20
  this video, she's like, we don't like to put labels on it.
• 35:23
  And I just feel like that's how, like, a lot of people nowadays,
• 35:27
  like, skirt responsibility for terrible decisions and they
• 35:30
  don't want to put labels on it. But actually for young children,
• 35:33
  it's very important that you label things because young
• 35:36
  children don't understand things.
• 35:38
  They don't. This is you are opening them up
• 35:40
  to the world. How they see the world is
• 35:42
  through you. And so I can't imagine how
• 35:44
  confusing this is for their children who, like I said, just
• 35:48
  went through this divorce and now are like, why do I have
• 35:51
  like, why is my mom dating a woman and then and then also a
• 35:54
  dad? And then those people have their
• 35:55
  own family and they have their own marriage.
• 35:57
  Not to mention that this married couple, I assume they have kids
• 35:59
  on the other side. What a complete disaster.
• 36:03
  And this goes back to the original topic that we brought
• 36:06
  in where it's just this selfish lifestyle.
• 36:09
  And she talks a lot about, you know, I've followed her for a
• 36:11
  while with these videos. She talked a lot about how
• 36:13
  miserable she was in her marriage.
• 36:14
  And now this is about exploring her sexuality and exploring
• 36:18
  things that she didn't get to explore because she got married
• 36:20
  so young. And it's like, no, as a mom like
• 36:23
  that time is sailed to quote UN quote explore.
• 36:26
  I don't think you ever need to explore these things to be clear
• 36:29
  and concise, especially as a Christian.
• 36:31
  This is why Christianity is very important because it offers
• 36:34
  moral guidance where you don't feel the necessity to go.
• 36:37
  And explore the sexual deviancy like you mentioned, but not that
• 36:42
  is not the time anymore. Like you are a mother.
• 36:45
  And so now that you are post divorce, the only thing in your
• 36:48
  head should be how do I make this situation as normal as
• 36:52
  possible for my children to safeguard my children's
• 36:55
  emotions. And this is doing the exact
• 36:57
  opposite. And she's being praised.
• 36:59
  Oh my gosh, you're so brave. You know, getting out there,
• 37:02
  trying things new, putting yourself first.
• 37:04
  I'm so sick of this culture where it's like you get praise
• 37:08
  for putting yourself 1st and hurting other people.
• 37:11
  And like I said, she talks non-stop about her trauma
• 37:14
  meanwhile she's traumatizing her own children but she can't even
• 37:17
  see that because she's only wrapped up in what matters to
• 37:19
  her and what matters in this moment to her and what makes her
• 37:22
  feel good. I could go off on a whole rant.
• 37:25
  I could cook. You know, I lived in Florida for
• 37:29
  three years. And so, you know, we'd see the
• 37:33
  pineapple flags or like the gnomes and the yard signaling
• 37:37
  like the swingers. You know, you used to have an
• 37:39
  era where like retirees would go on certain cruise ships and then
• 37:43
  they would do this business in private.
• 37:44
  Why are we airing this out on social media for like your kids
• 37:48
  to see your normal? It's coming from this like
• 37:51
  normalize everything culture where they think this is widely
• 37:55
  accepted and OK to bring children and involve this.
• 37:58
  And they don't want to hear about your private life like
• 38:00
  that. They're not going to fully
• 38:01
  understand, like you said, whatever happened to like I
• 38:05
  don't want to say guilt, whatever happened to just like
• 38:07
  keeping shame quiet and like that being that's.
• 38:10
  Because you're not a Christian society anymore.
• 38:12
  Yeah, exactly. Like bring back public shaming.
• 38:15
  I I said in a couple episodes ago, like we should bring back
• 38:19
  bullying. Like I was bullied when I was
• 38:21
  younger and it like built my character.
• 38:22
  I think that everybody just normalizes everything these
• 38:25
  days. And so therefore she does deem
• 38:28
  this to be socially acceptable in this day and age.
• 38:31
  And it shouldn't be. It's really detrimental to these
• 38:34
  kids. Like you said, they're gonna be
• 38:35
  questioning everything. They're gonna be asking
• 38:38
  themselves what's acceptable. And that person is the standard
• 38:42
  in their life that is like their superwoman in their life doing
• 38:45
  everything for them. So of course they're probably
• 38:47
  gonna put them on a pedestal and think that that's OK.
• 38:51
  I just wish people would do this in private.
• 38:53
  Like I I'm I'm not even saying you should do it at all.
• 38:55
  I actually. Agree with you.
• 38:56
  I'm not, I'm not even going to like I of course, like this is a
• 38:59
  Christian conservative podcast. We're going to advocate against
• 39:03
  that. Like especially like once you
• 39:06
  have children involved, like you were divorced, like it's not the
• 39:09
  time, like you said, to be dabbling in these different
• 39:12
  things and finding yourself this way.
• 39:14
  But like, if you're going to do it, do it in private.
• 39:17
  Like that's how people used to do things they used to do in
• 39:21
  private. They used to not tell anybody.
• 39:22
  It used to be on the down low. And honestly, that's that's just
• 39:26
  how it should be. But it's because these people
• 39:29
  almost have blinders. Like, they're so self-centered.
• 39:31
  Like, they don't even think of how their children will
• 39:34
  interpret this one day. They only think of themselves.
• 39:36
  Like, yeah, when mom went through her polyamorous era.
• 39:40
  Yeah, what? Imagine your mother went through
• 39:44
  all of that, like, did that and posted about online and like,
• 39:47
  you have to now I just like, I can't imagine me like, yeah,
• 39:51
  when my mom went through a polyamorous era and she had a
• 39:53
  girlfriend and a boyfriend and they came over for dinner, like.
• 39:57
  I know like normally you'll hear like I've heard things growing
• 40:00
  up where like a girl would have a bad boyfriend relationship,
• 40:03
  then she'd like dabble be a lesbian for like 2 years and
• 40:06
  she'd like would get married to a guy or something.
• 40:08
  Like I've always like heard stories like that.
• 40:11
  But it's like, OK, you've brought children, multiple
• 40:13
  children into this world. You need to lock the F in.
• 40:17
  Like be a parent, like there's no time for this anymore.
• 40:21
  And if you do have that time in your hands, baby girl, go and do
• 40:24
  that behind a closed door. Don't be telling the world that
• 40:27
  for your kids to hear one day. It's disrespectful.
• 40:29
  It's like so unnecessary. And it brings shame to your
• 40:32
  family, by the way it does. And this is another thing,
• 40:36
  whether you have kids, whether you're a mom, whether you're
• 40:38
  not, you don't just get to live for yourself and only put
• 40:41
  yourself first. Like it's just not an
• 40:44
  appropriate way to live. And like I said, this is this is
• 40:47
  the type of degeneracy that happens when we remove
• 40:50
  Christianity from public life. Because whether you were super
• 40:53
  Christian or kind of Christian or you're a church going, you're
• 40:57
  going to church every Sunday. Christianity gives a very clear
• 41:00
  moral framework that has worked very well for society,
• 41:02
  especially Western civilization, obviously for centuries.
• 41:06
  And this is what happens when you take that away.
• 41:08
  It's like the slippery slope where it's like, oh, we take out
• 41:12
  Christianity and we replace it to a science or whatever they
• 41:16
  claim to replace it with. The next thing you know, no one
• 41:17
  can tell what a man or a woman is.
• 41:19
  Someone's claiming that they're a dog and they're a furry or
• 41:22
  whatever, and then we have people having throttles.
• 41:25
  And they're blaring the lines. God knows what's going.
• 41:27
  On they're blurring the. Line it hasn't been great.
• 41:29
  No, that is my rant of the day. I have no words where we always
• 41:33
  have a lot of words, ladies and gentlemen.
• 41:37
  All right, moving on to Hot or Not?
• 41:46
  All right, Cam, hot or not home workouts.
• 41:48
  I'm going to go hot and I know that you may have a similar
• 41:52
  take, but I feel like when you grow up and you're on the go and
• 41:55
  like, especially if you work from home too, like it's just
• 41:58
  easier to lay down a yoga mat and do a home workout and buy
• 42:02
  some weights off of Amazon. Like I've gotten into this
• 42:05
  recently. I used to be a girl who would
• 42:07
  like always make it a thing to like go to solid core.
• 42:10
  I live in LA and there's tons of traffic and sometimes I don't
• 42:13
  want to drive somewhere and like I normally go on a walk.
• 42:16
  Like I know you do too. Like that's, you know, your
• 42:19
  primary, primary exercise choice.
• 42:21
  But like, I've been really getting into home workouts.
• 42:24
  Like get a resistance band. It's very easy to find online
• 42:27
  programs too, like a lot of the personal trainers here in Lai
• 42:30
  want to use but they're so booked out or it's like they're
• 42:33
  training like so many different celebrities or different like
• 42:37
  well known people. They have like a wait list and
• 42:39
  things like that. I just use their online programs
• 42:41
  and it's much better. So I'm going to go hot.
• 42:44
  I'm going to go not for the reason I I think I might have
• 42:47
  explained this on the podcast before, but I think because I
• 42:50
  was an athlete growing up, I just like feel like I, I used to
• 42:55
  be like super athletic and like worked out all the time.
• 42:57
  Was that practice? I almost feel like it like
• 42:59
  burned me out and now I'm like, I just don't have the discipline
• 43:02
  to like sit down and do those like leg lifts with your like
• 43:05
  butt up and I know it makes you look so good.
• 43:07
  Like all I just don't have the discipline in this day and age
• 43:09
  anymore. I don't know, like I need to get
• 43:11
  back to that. I need to get athletic again.
• 43:14
  I know my mom is like listening to this being like because my
• 43:16
  mom is a big worker outer like she is like the type that's
• 43:19
  waking up at 5:00 AM and going to Pilates and I'm just like,
• 43:23
  honestly, mom, your goals. I just I'm not on the same page
• 43:26
  as that and I think I just don't enjoy it.
• 43:28
  Like I'm being honest, I just don't enjoy.
• 43:30
  Like so many people that don't enjoy it though, like you just
• 43:33
  sometimes. You know, and it's like, yeah, I
• 43:36
  agree. That's like where the discipline
• 43:38
  comes in, where you, like, force yourself to do it.
• 43:40
  That being said, though, I do think of working out, it's best
• 43:43
  to find the best way to enjoy a workout because you're more
• 43:45
  likely to stick to it. And for me, I think that's
• 43:48
  walking. I really enjoy walking.
• 43:49
  And like, for a lot of people, they're like, that's not
• 43:51
  exercise, but trust a lot of calories when you're moving
• 43:54
  around town carrying Vivian everywhere because she's in this
• 43:58
  era where she doesn't want to go in a stroller and walk or
• 44:00
  whatever. I'm like from that.
• 44:04
  So anyway, I'm going to go not with that just because I don't
• 44:09
  have the disappoint. I wish I could say hot, but I'd
• 44:11
  be a liar and I will always be honest with you girls.
• 44:15
  Early bedtime. Normally I would say hot, but
• 44:20
  right now I'm just going to go. Not because I my mind has just
• 44:25
  been like racing about the universe at night for some
• 44:27
  reason. I go to bed.
• 44:29
  What's the Scott Disick quote where he's like?
• 44:32
  Chloe asks him something like, what time do you go to bed?
• 44:34
  Like, don't you like have to get up?
• 44:37
  He's like, and she's like, what are you thinking about?
• 44:39
  He's like anything that's ever been going wrong in my entire
• 44:42
  life. I'm like, that is, I do that to
• 44:45
  a different extent where I'm thinking about laws of the
• 44:47
  universe and philosophical understanding and God, and then
• 44:52
  I roll over and I'm like, how tall was Jesus?
• 44:57
  That is literally randomly. I'll be like, I must look up.
• 45:01
  I'm like, yeah. When?
• 45:02
  When were the pyramids, exactly? Am I looking this?
• 45:05
  No. Same and so.
• 45:06
  Once you pull out the phone, it's over.
• 45:08
  Over so I'm gonna go not. I cannot do.
• 45:11
  I used to be like an early night.
• 45:13
  Let me make my tea, have my night time.
• 45:15
  I've been like really off with that recently so I'm gonna go
• 45:17
  not. I'm gonna go hot because I'm
• 45:21
  aspiring to get to bed earlier. That is my goal right now, to
• 45:25
  get to bed earlier. But I don't know, like recently
• 45:27
  I'll be like, Oh my God, it's midnight, I need to go to bed.
• 45:30
  Yeah. Yeah, it's I have a very active
• 45:32
  mind too. It's really annoying.
• 45:34
  Or you'll like be laying in bed and like your mind's like, let
• 45:37
  me just like replay the most embarrassing moment of your life
• 45:39
  ever. And you're just like, thanks
• 45:42
  mine. Or let me like rage bait you
• 45:45
  right now with like the worst thing that's happened to you or
• 45:49
  like someone did you dirty. You're like thanks mine.
• 45:52
  Now I'm active. OK, outfit repeating.
• 45:57
  I'm going to go hot because I think that there's just like the
• 46:01
  standard. And I was like this when I was
• 46:03
  younger. And trust me, I'm still kind of
• 46:06
  like this, but I'm working towards not being like this
• 46:08
  where I need a new outfit for every occasion.
• 46:10
  I do think it's good to like, you know, refresh your closet
• 46:13
  every year. Like throw out the things that
• 46:15
  you're not wearing. Like don't hoard things, but I'm
• 46:18
  going to just go hot. Like I think it's fine to outfit
• 46:21
  repeat. There's just been this standard
• 46:22
  where you constantly need to be consuming things over and over
• 46:26
  and over again. And I think it's good to just
• 46:28
  like get good basics in your closet and re wear them.
• 46:32
  I agree, I think quality over quantity and so like really
• 46:36
  investing in great pieces rather than like online shopping a
• 46:39
  bunch of fast fashion and like never repeating an outfit.
• 46:42
  I feel like it's way more stylish to invest in good things
• 46:46
  and repeat, but also like the things that you repeat.
• 46:48
  Like you can be very strategic and like, for example, a pair of
• 46:51
  jeans or a coat or a top where it's like kind of understated
• 46:55
  chic. So like people won't notice if
• 46:57
  like, for example, if you buy like a bright pink dress that's
• 46:59
  kind of hard to wear to like multiple events because people
• 47:01
  will remember it. OK, the five second rule.
• 47:05
  I'm gonna go hot. I do this all the time when I'm
• 47:08
  cooking. I like drop things and I'm just
• 47:11
  like whatever, like I keep this house clean.
• 47:13
  I don't Care now if it's like concrete and I'm like at brunch,
• 47:17
  like on in like a little Bistro chair, like outside.
• 47:20
  No, I'm not eating that. But like in my own home, I'm not
• 47:23
  going to lie, I do that. I like drop a cheese that I'm
• 47:26
  eating it. My standard for Vivian is like
• 47:29
  up here for her to like consume something.
• 47:31
  The health, the non chemicals, the no GMO, the organic, no
• 47:36
  process can't have touched any dirt, nothing.
• 47:39
  The standard for myself is like. Down here sometimes, yeah.
• 47:43
  Like I'm like it's I think it's like only two days expired.
• 47:47
  It's fine. I swear my standard is like so
• 47:50
  low for myself, but I'm going hot with a 5 second rule.
• 47:53
  I believe in it. I wouldn't feed it to Vivian
• 47:55
  though because I feel like when they're young, their immune
• 47:57
  systems and I have to be a good mom.
• 47:58
  But for myself, I don't really care.
• 48:01
  It's like gross. It is what it is.
• 48:04
  OK, iced coffee. I'm going to go not.
• 48:06
  I've like watched all of these things about like how women need
• 48:11
  to be consuming warm foods and like warm broths.
• 48:14
  So Long story short, there's like this China maxing thing on
• 48:17
  TikTok. It's talking about broths,
• 48:19
  homeopathic stuff kind of plays in a Maha a little bit.
• 48:22
  But it's talking about like warming your womb, like
• 48:25
  fertility maxing, like women are designed to like, and I think
• 48:29
  humans in general are just designed to, like, eat more warm
• 48:32
  foods. And so I'm just gonna go knot.
• 48:35
  I don't think iced coffee is like the best thing to have on
• 48:38
  an empty stomach first thing in the morning.
• 48:40
  I think it's better just to have like a warm, cozy cup of coffee.
• 48:43
  So I'm just gonna go knot. Cameron, you're getting like
• 48:46
  philosophical on here. I was just gonna say it tastes
• 48:48
  like jet fuel. I just can't see the taste.
• 48:53
  No, I get it. I am someone that would eat like
• 48:55
  a slice of cake for breakfast but like no sugar.
• 48:58
  Jamie would always, when we were in the White House, Jamie would
• 49:01
  call me and be like, well, one, we would share an omelette every
• 49:04
  single morning from this cafe in the White House.
• 49:06
  But two, she would ask me like, what are you eating?
• 49:09
  Or are you going down there to get her omelette?
• 49:11
  She's like, all I've had is a chocolate Santa for breakfast.
• 49:15
  I'm like, where the hell are you getting chocolate Santa in like
• 49:19
  September? I don't know.
• 49:21
  But she would be stocked in her pantry.
• 49:25
  I'm like OK. I just love that I'll eat a
• 49:29
  chocolate Santa for breakfast, but literally draw the line at
• 49:32
  sugar on my coffee. Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope,
• 49:35
  Nope. So anyway, I can do like a
• 49:37
  normal hot latte with just like a little bit of milk in it.
• 49:42
  I like right see, I'm, I'm like ma hat in so many ways.
• 49:46
  But like also like I'll have a tendency where I'll eat a
• 49:49
  chocolate Santa for breakfast. But anyway, I'll do whole milk
• 49:52
  in my latte because I like whole milk, drink real milk.
• 49:55
  I don't like, believe in all these almond milk things, but I
• 49:58
  can do that with no sugar if it's in an iced coffee.
• 50:00
  I don't know why. It completely tastes like
• 50:02
  changes of flavor. Yeah, I don't like that.
• 50:04
  I'm not drinking that. It's like, literally disgusting.
• 50:07
  But also let's fertility Max with some warmth.
• 50:11
  OK? You guys getting into propaganda
• 50:12
  we're not falling for. OK Cameron, what propaganda are
• 50:18
  you not falling for? OK, propaganda, This is going to
• 50:21
  sound so basic, but let me explain like 2 minutes.
• 50:24
  The propaganda that I'm not falling for is women pumping
• 50:27
  their own gas. And yes, you could go the route
• 50:30
  of saying like, oh, this is a blue chore, like whatever.
• 50:32
  No, here, here's where I'm going to go with this.
• 50:34
  We need to bring back the workers who used to pump your
• 50:38
  gas for you and like a going to a gas station.
• 50:41
  As you know, Jamie, you've lived in DC.
• 50:43
  Like normally homeless people crowd around gas stations
• 50:46
  normally. Like that's where crime goes
• 50:47
  down, like robberies, all this sort of stuff, right?
• 50:51
  Like it's just, I just don't think that women should be
• 50:53
  getting out of their car. That's like one of the number
• 50:55
  one places women gets women get sex trafficked as well as gas
• 50:59
  stations. So like to make this a safer
• 51:02
  environment, we need to bring back the people who pump your
• 51:05
  gas for you. They wear a glove, less
• 51:07
  bacteria, you know, because a lot of people too.
• 51:10
  What they'll do is they'll put drugs or there will be like
• 51:12
  drugs underneath the handles. No, I swear, Jamie, this is
• 51:15
  real. Like I've seen so many stories
• 51:17
  about this. There'll be drugs on their
• 51:18
  handles and like you, that's like you're more susceptible to
• 51:23
  being like kidnapped, sex trafficked, things like that.
• 51:26
  And you just don't want to touch like the bacteria on the handle.
• 51:28
  If you had one person pumping your gas with a glove on, crime
• 51:33
  would decrease, productivity would rise.
• 51:35
  This would create jobs in the United States.
• 51:37
  I don't know why we don't do this like.
• 51:39
  That is a very good point. It would create jobs.
• 51:41
  I completely agree. It would create a safer
• 51:43
  environment. I know so many women that would
• 51:45
  pay more. I know some.
• 51:47
  New Jersey, you don't pump your own gas.
• 51:49
  Yeah, I know. I know some place, this is a gas
• 51:51
  station in Beverly Hills, actually near me, has people who
• 51:54
  will pump the gas for you. You pay a little extra.
• 51:57
  I think it's great. It creates a community.
• 51:59
  You get to see those same people every day.
• 52:01
  It creates like a a more stable and comfortable environment for
• 52:04
  everybody involved. Like I just think gas stations,
• 52:06
  they've gotten like, to just put it plainly, like so ghetto.
• 52:10
  And so I think if you had people standing out there, like kind of
• 52:13
  monitoring the situation, it would be a lot better.
• 52:17
  I completely agree. I I'm totally on board with
• 52:19
  that. OK, so propaganda that I'm not
• 52:22
  falling for is that we're living through wild times, historic
• 52:28
  times, unprecedented times, or people be like in this economy.
• 52:32
  And let me roll the clap for our listening audience.
• 52:35
  You look tired. Yeah, I've been constantly
• 52:37
  living through major historical events for the past decade.
• 52:41
  And this goes also. I just see this constantly where
• 52:44
  people talk about having children and they're like, with
• 52:46
  the environment. In this environment, you're
• 52:49
  going to have children. In this economy, you can't
• 52:51
  afford to have children. You guys, people need to get a
• 52:54
  grip. And I literally think this goes
• 52:56
  back to like a complete misunderstanding of history.
• 52:59
  One, people used to have kids in caves.
• 53:01
  You'll be OK. People lived through the Great
• 53:03
  Depression. They lived through potato
• 53:05
  phantoms. They lived through Holocaust,
• 53:07
  they've lived through genocide. They lived through major world
• 53:09
  wars. They've lived through war and
• 53:10
  conquest. They've lived through people
• 53:12
  used to get on ships from Europe and sail across the Atlantic
• 53:16
  Ocean and make it to America. And many died of scurvy of every
• 53:21
  disease. There's been black plagues like
• 53:23
  we are not living through historically unprecedented
• 53:26
  times. Like just because Donald Trump
• 53:28
  got elected president and you don't like like his tweet,
• 53:30
  you're not living through a historically unprecedented time.
• 53:33
  You're going to be OK. The environment has also,
• 53:36
  whether you believe in climate change or whatever, the climate
• 53:38
  has changed for millions of years, You're also going to be
• 53:41
  OK, I promise. We had a very cold winter here
• 53:44
  in DC on the East Coast. I promise you the climate change
• 53:47
  is going to be OK. You're not going to overheat.
• 53:50
  The ocean isn't going to rise and overtake your land and your
• 53:53
  lifetime. Like you're good.
• 53:55
  I just, I think this is crazy. Like the, I get it, like
• 53:59
  inflation, you guys, like I, I totally get it.
• 54:01
  During the Biden years, I was fighting inflation's terrible.
• 54:04
  That's why we voted in President Trump and he's lowering these
• 54:07
  prices down, trying to make it more affordable.
• 54:09
  Like I'm so for that. Like I want the American people
• 54:12
  to thrive. But also, let's just be honest.
• 54:14
  Like we live with such modern luxury that like your average
• 54:19
  peasant from even 100 years ago couldn't even conceive of,
• 54:23
  people used to do manual labor from sun up to sundown.
• 54:27
  They would go and dig the food that they would bring home to
• 54:30
  their table. Meanwhile, now we have people
• 54:33
  who sit on the couch, order DoorDash a latte and get online
• 54:36
  on their iPhone and complain. And like poverty in America in
• 54:41
  2026 is so inconceivably different than poverty that
• 54:45
  exists for even part of the world that lives today, but
• 54:48
  throughout all of human history. Like poverty in America is like,
• 54:50
  you still have ATV, like most food.
• 54:53
  You can still like you have SNAP benefits, like we have
• 54:55
  government welfare where you can like, you're not going to
• 54:57
  starve. Like people like if you were
• 55:00
  impoverished 100 years ago, like you're starving, your kids are
• 55:03
  dying. That is just I've been on like
• 55:05
  some rants today. You're you're killing.
• 55:07
  It Queen. You're not living through
• 55:09
  historically unprecedented times because Donald Trump tweeted
• 55:13
  something you don't like and like you believe everybody's
• 55:16
  racist. Now, yeah, exactly.
• 55:18
  You're good. Such soft.
• 55:19
  We'll manage, we'll survive. You can have kids.
• 55:23
  I promise you, you're not going to hurt the environment from
• 55:25
  having a few children. And you'll manage in this
• 55:29
  economy. OK, Cameron, what propaganda are
• 55:33
  you falling for? This is so random propaganda
• 55:36
  that I I am falling changing parts.
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  Yeah 100% I love what you said but this has nothing to do with.
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  That we're talking history, we're talking LGBTQ polyamorous
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  relationships. We're talking pumping gas.
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  We're talking. Really.
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  American Only here. About your lattes, we'll cover
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  it all. OK so propaganda that I am
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  falling for is the saying ignorance is bliss.
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  Like, I used to not understand this when I was younger, but now
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  that I'm older, I truly understand like blissful
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  ignorance because I look back like not to have a self
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  deprecating humor, but I look back at like my years at the
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  University of Louisville when I had like -15 dollars in my
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  account, like about to get a $30 overdraft fee charged to my
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  card. And I was so happy.
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  You asked me, Oh, did you hear about?
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  No, didn't hear about shit. Wasn't scrolling online.
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  I went to, I went to class, I went to practice.
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  I cheered a game and I went home and I ate cereal.
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  I talked with my room and that was it.
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  Like maybe you'd see a Snapchat story.
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  Like I wasn't in the know with anything.
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  Like before I got into politics, I'm saying like my first couple
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  years at University of Louisville, I was just
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  blissfully ignorant about everything.
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  I was the happiest I'd ever been.
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  I'm not going to lie. And not to say that my life
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  hasn't gotten like much more beautiful.
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  I've had so many doors open for me.
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  Like I am very, very happy. But I do think that there's
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  something to be said about living like this because once
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  you open your eyes to what's going on around you, if you're
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  constantly recently in the know about everything, trying to
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  understand everything in a deeper context, like looking
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  psychoanalyzing every single situation, being self aware,
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  being situationally aware. Jamie knows this about me too.
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  I enter a room, I clock something out of the corner of
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  my eye from like literally 30 feet away.
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  Like, and, and somehow, some way I'll know about it.
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  Like something there's something to be said of just like living
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  stupidly. Like I truly believe that.
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  Like before I moved to LA, for instance, too.
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  Like, the beauty standards here are so different.
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  I used to think that I was. I'm not going to say I used to
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  think I was pretty, like, OK, let's like, calm down there,
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  Cameron. But like I used to think like
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  what? You are beautiful.
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  No, no, no, you'd be delusional. OK, OK.
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  But I'm just saying like I notice way more about me now
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  than I did like living in Kentucky and stuff.
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  Like, I think LA, there's much more of like a vain culture, you
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  know what I mean? Yeah.
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  And like they. No, that's very true.
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  Yeah, and I just used to live so ignorant.
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  I was in Kentucky. I was like, I'm the hottest shit
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  ever. Like I like, I was like walking
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  around so dumb. Like actually.
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  Is it better to be like a big fish in a small pond or a small
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  fish in a big? Pond so true.
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  I just like I like the mentality.
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  Sometimes I'm happier when I don't know everything.
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  I scroll on X. I'm like, this is doomsday and I
• 58:24
  don't want to be on this app. Like it looks evil and like
• 58:28
  everyone once pissed off. There's like fights going on
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  behind these screens. Sometimes I'm like, did you
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  hear? No, I don't want to hear about
• 58:36
  anything. Sometimes I just want to live.
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  Did you see the breaking news from TMZ today that Donna Kelsey
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  is remodeled? Wrong.
• 58:43
  No, I don't. I thought that was weird.
• 58:46
  That was my whole XP, like TMZ, like we'll put on the screen.
• 58:50
  They broke this random story. Yeah, they're like the Iranian
• 58:53
  war is taking away from Donna's kitchen remodel.
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  I I just thought that was funny. I'm like, can we have like light
• 59:01
  hearted things like this? Like I like, I love that
• 59:03
  everyone's like breaking news, like they're like in the
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  situation Room. Donna Kelsey is yeah, remodeling
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  our home. I'm like more of this.
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  I just think. That there's like something to
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  be said about people who have like low Iqs or like, cuz I
• 59:15
  don't want to say stupid, but like people who just don't seem
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  to care about like world events, like being happier because
• 59:23
  they're just out of the know and they're bliss free.
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  Well, I think that's why liberals are very unhappy a lot
• 59:27
  of times because their entire world is about politics.
• 59:31
  They make every single thing political and like that is their
• 59:35
  worldview 24/7. And so when you're thinking that
• 59:38
  way and you can't just like let loose and like enjoy life
• 59:40
  sometimes. Like, not everything needs to be
• 59:42
  like this deep political, like toxic, divisive thing and like
• 59:47
  an offensive thing to you. And I mean, when you live in
• 59:51
  that system where you have to constantly hyper, hyper analyze,
• 59:54
  like the way you say things, not offend all these people.
• 59:57
  Like, I'm so thankful I'm not a liberal because I don't have to
• 59:59
  like live by that like scale, if that makes sense.
• 1:00:01
  I could imagine being pretty miserable in that way.
• 1:00:03
  I think it's good to get out of politics sometimes and turn off
• 1:00:05
  your brain. Yeah, I think it's good to turn
• 1:00:07
  off your brain sometimes. Like I think about just growing
• 1:00:10
  up in like the amount of I, I guess like I've just, I've just
• 1:00:15
  matured over the years as anybody does as they get older,
• 1:00:18
  you have more life experience under your belt.
• 1:00:20
  And I think of times where I'm like, I never thought about it
• 1:00:22
  this way. And then I think a little bit
• 1:00:23
  deeper. I'm like, I don't think I even
• 1:00:25
  thought about that at all. Like, you know, honestly,
• 1:00:27
  probably a little bit more of a happier person that way.
• 1:00:30
  So I don't know if that's propaganda that I'm falling for
• 1:00:32
  these days. It's just kind of being
• 1:00:34
  blissfully ignorant. And I know that sounds bad and
• 1:00:36
  maybe don't take that advice, take it with a grain of salt,
• 1:00:38
  but sometimes it's good to turn your brain off and just not
• 1:00:40
  care. I agree.
• 1:00:43
  I think sometimes it is. It's a nice break.
• 1:00:45
  Sometimes you need that. Just live happy.
• 1:00:46
  Sometimes I think it's like important to be smart on issues.
• 1:00:50
  I really believe in that, that like you should be a have a lot
• 1:00:55
  of understanding of the world and keep up with politics.
• 1:00:57
  So you're not stupid, but at the same time don't make your whole.
• 1:01:00
  Life. Yeah, don't let it consume you
• 1:01:01
  or you'll get burnt out. My propaganda that I'm falling
• 1:01:06
  for completely different. I mentioned at the beginning,
• 1:01:09
  but moving. I am someone that has moved like
• 1:01:12
  50 million times and like Cameron also has moved 50
• 1:01:16
  million times, but she like moves all over the country.
• 1:01:18
  Like I stay in like the same place and move.
• 1:01:20
  And I swear I'm just like one of those people.
• 1:01:23
  I get very bored of like where I'm currently living and like
• 1:01:27
  just want to like go to somewhere better.
• 1:01:30
  I don't know how to explain it. I just, I don't think you should
• 1:01:32
  be like, obviously don't be you're financially
• 1:01:35
  irresponsible. I'm not saying that.
• 1:01:37
  But like, I don't think there's any problem with moving and
• 1:01:39
  upgrading. Like I think a lot of people can
• 1:01:42
  get locked in to the same exact life and never like make any
• 1:01:47
  changes and never like challenge themselves and just accept the
• 1:01:50
  status quo. And I like swear I move like
• 1:01:54
  every spring and it's like a way to do like spring cleaning and
• 1:01:56
  like to like start a new, like I always have like a bunch of new
• 1:01:59
  goals after I move that I like want to live up to like I'm
• 1:02:02
  going to work out more or I'm going to do this more.
• 1:02:04
  I'm going to do that more. I just think it's like good to
• 1:02:06
  like change up things, keep things fresh.
• 1:02:09
  Obviously when you're young, when you're like, you know, when
• 1:02:11
  you get a little bit older and you buy a house, like you need
• 1:02:14
  to like, obviously that's a different situation, but
• 1:02:16
  especially if you're young and like I have children, but if
• 1:02:19
  you're young and you don't have kids, like move to a different
• 1:02:22
  neighborhood, like experience new things, don't be financially
• 1:02:24
  irresponsible, like I said, but I think I think it's just
• 1:02:26
  exciting. It keeps things exciting.
• 1:02:28
  It keeps things fresh. And you know, we talked about
• 1:02:30
  this when it's like leave your hometown.
• 1:02:32
  And I always recommend that. Like I think it's important to
• 1:02:35
  experience new things. And I think a lot of people just
• 1:02:38
  accept like, oh, this is how it has to be.
• 1:02:39
  And they don't even like think outside of it.
• 1:02:41
  And like I said, moving is like a very small component of that
• 1:02:44
  but. I think it teaches important
• 1:02:46
  life skills though, like you should be able to adapt to
• 1:02:49
  change. You shouldn't put, you know, too
• 1:02:50
  much emphasis on like in an sorry, what was I going to say?
• 1:02:55
  Too much emphasis on inanimate objects and like getting too
• 1:02:58
  attached to like a certain place of living.
• 1:03:00
  Like create your memories there and then create new memories
• 1:03:03
  elsewhere. Like be able to change to grow
• 1:03:06
  and like upgrade as you see fit like you said.
• 1:03:10
  Yeah, I agree. There's nothing like too
• 1:03:12
  philosophical for me. I just think it's like it's fun.
• 1:03:15
  I'm it's fun. I just.
• 1:03:17
  Like humans were designed to be outside, to be experiencing new
• 1:03:20
  things, to be meeting new people, having new
• 1:03:22
  conversations. What's wrong with with moving a
• 1:03:25
  lot? Like who cares?
• 1:03:26
  You know you and I both move so much though.
• 1:03:30
  Like people will stay in homes for like 3 years.
• 1:03:32
  Jamie and I will live in six different places with a nut
• 1:03:36
  span. I will say as I'm going through
• 1:03:39
  this move right now, it does come with a lot of it's it's
• 1:03:43
  very tiring, but it's worth I'm always I always like being in a
• 1:03:46
  new place. It's exciting.
• 1:03:47
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• 1:04:03
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• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:07
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