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RHOBH: "Ashes to Ashes, Red Dress to Orange Dress" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling. What's up?
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Everybody? Welcome back? It is drama Darling. I'm Amy Phillips. Joining
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me is Emily Desis Hi. Hello, good day to you one and all,
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one and all. And I love your sweatshirt. It says California gorgeous.
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California didn't have a Spain sweatshirt or a solid orange piece to wear.
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Oh yeah, that that I mean. I was like, really, they're
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giving her such a hard time with that orange red when I was like,
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you guys, an'll look the same. It's fine. I'm sure in person,
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maybe it was more what well, No, I was just gonna say.
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I was hoping you were gonna say, I'm glad that you said that,
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because I thought my TV was messed up me do okay? Bye?
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By TV, I mean my monitor, my computer, my laptop, I
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mean, my god, did they ever I mean count on the Beverly Hills
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ladies to just drag someone for being just a tiny hue off of red?
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Yeah, because honestly, I had I put my glasses on and I was
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like, is my coloring got off on my TV? Then I went into
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my settings, I like literally went down that road because I know my TV
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is old because like you, I usually watch something on my laptop. I
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thought you were gonna say, I know my TV is old like you,
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ehperiod dot. I was like, well, listen, that reminds me.
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I am turning double twenty five's very excited. The countdown is on. Will
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I spend the day at Chili's? Will I spend the day at a day
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spot? Will I do nothing? I mean I will tell but anyway,
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I your TV, I'm not no, it's three it's four to six thousand
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dollars. I already put the kabash on that when I was researching it the
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other night. I thought it'd be that very clear in my U. The
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episode on patroon yesterday, and in fact, a lot of the darlings just
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thank you for the outpouring of support. Like not okay. So, first
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of all, we covered vander Pump Rules yesterday and Patreon, and because Sina
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was talking about her postpartum OCD, I was sharing my experience with oc with
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postpartum anxiety, So that was something that I shared about it all on the
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podcast yesterday and I have touched on it before, but a real outpouring of
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just shout out and you know on our page about like this is just great
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to talk about. Thank you for sharing. And it's so great for women
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to know that this exists, because, like I said on the show yesterday,
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the bullet points when we came home from the hospital were look out for
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postpartum depression. Those things are A, B and C. Well we didn't
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know to look out for what postpartum anxiety is. That's something completely separate.
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It's like a different psychosis, different symptoms, and the OCD is different,
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so you just don't know of these things. Now, I think putting it
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out there is just so great, and that's why I love that Sheena talked
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about that. But anyway, outpouring is support on that outpouring of support on
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me looking into like a cellulatee procedure and people were just like, look,
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you gotta do those burpies, you gotta do those morning glories or good mornings.
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You got to do those lunges. Yeah, I mean, I know,
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I didn't know that there were I didn't know those could yield the results
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of getting rid of cellulate but apparently a lot of people are saying it will,
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so you know, I the exercise that I do I either jog my
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bike, not like my stationary bike, and I'm not like riding around jog
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around with your stationary bike. Now that's gonna get rid of some cellular I
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would have thought by lifting my fifty pound year old daughter off the ground,
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i'd be in the clear. But anyway, yeah, so no, I'm
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not doing that because I looked into all the procedures and it so that's no.
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So we'll we'll see you know what double twenty five's has to offer.
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By the way, if you're not subscribed to Patreon, Patreon dot com,
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backslash drama Darling True Detective, Emily and I are covering like we're asking the
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right question, So if you want to, you know, get into that.
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Also, the traders over on Patreon and Emily joined me and Angela last
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week. Tomorrow it will be me and Angela and Deanna and also Emily and
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I are just we're just doubling up, tripling up on these bonus EPs.
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We're doing feud, We're doing Copoti versus the Swans. Yes, so yes,
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very excited about all of the above. I need to know what Dan's
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decision is on traders. I need to know everyone's take on it. Oh
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my god, have to wait for tonight. Yes, yes, I finished
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my Laurence Leemer book about Capoti and the Swanpi and Women, which is what
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the series is based on. Just so much deep diving. Good for you,
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all the darlings and all the drama. Yes, Oh, I'm so
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glad you finish it. That's impressive. I am not listening to that book.
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I downloaded because I haven't listened to Eckart Tolly's second book. A new
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Thing, same thing, same thing you listen to Awakening to your life's purpose.
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Yeah, that's the same thing as the it's the same line for line.
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I mean it's basically platiarism. Mhmm. If you want true consciousness,
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you must go to Love Buka whatever that lunch places. Yeah, and I
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don't know. It's a weird it's it's a weird accent. Is I love
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it? Wait? No, that's so good. Please keep talking. I
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love it. I listened to It's So Soon when Oprah came to me at
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the start of the year. I said, I can't help you until you
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help yourself. I can't do it. Well, it's he's German, right,
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Yeah, I think so. Sounds he's from nowhere. Yeah, he's
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kind of duchy. He's kind of like Yolanda Foster. He's like kind of
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like the like the yo, the Yolanda Foster Yoda. You know. Yes,
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Oh that's a good call. Yeah, believe me when I tell you
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I do not have Munchausen's Full consciousness does not come with just having mini ponies
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because she lives on a farm. Now, I can't do it like you.
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That's good. I love I love the cart think he because he does
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all his audio books. Oh yeah, really, get to hear that voice
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a lot. You know what, I got it right here varies from person
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to person, the same structure operates. In other words, David does only
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differ on the surface. Deep down, they are all the same. All
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the housewives are the same. We all have glass refrigerator doors with baskets of
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lemons. I am you're London fast. I can't make your French. The
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mast cleanse will not bring you to the point of full consciousness. Yeah,
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so I'm not listening to that book. I'm listening to this one and loving
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it. As you know, my double twenty five's will bring me true consciousness
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full. That's my that's my birthday wish. I'm that's I don't know if
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i'll get there. Eckert didn't wonder you're you're going to get there, because
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you already kind of got there by being like, I'm not going to do
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any cellulite interventions that step. I still want to do it, I just
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can't, don't. Yeah, I know the first windfall the next time.
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Yeah, it's happening, just not this year. Okay, but I all
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right, Well, before we get into Beverly Hills, we do have a
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little dish to serve up Emily serving dish. I'm hungry for some dish.
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Hungry, all right, what's a dish? The Traders, by the way,
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which is going to be airing tonight, they're having a reunion. They
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gathered in New York City the other day and they freaking had the reunion.
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Yes, who hosted? Well, of course, I don't know, probably
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Alan Cumming. Well that's interesting because he's such a character when he year did
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they do one last year? And I'm bad out of it? Yeah they
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did? Oh god, oh god, oh god. Now we're going to
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hear it from everybody. How could we? It'll come to us? Okay,
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But that's exciting Also, we'll move on quickly, maybe no one will
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notice. This is news from Official Broadway World that Chicago has best non holiday
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performance week in the show's history. Oh that's awesome with Arianna. Isn't that
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incredible? I mean truly grossing. Oh my god, this show in the
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show's twenty seven year history, grossing well nine hundred and thirty nine one thousand
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dollars for the week ending February fourth. Dang, way to go, Ariana.
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Just the scan of all you know, supporting everyone from the West coast
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to the East coast. Yeah, from the corner of Pump all the way
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to Broadway, Pump and Broadway. That's where she lives, pumping Broadway.
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Now, I wonder if she gets a cut of that, if after a
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certain point in the box office she gets a percentage. Oh interesting, I
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guess they would have to make that deal up front. Yeah. Peacock also
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makes it official that The Traders have renewed for a third season, and the
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season finale airs on March seventh. Okay, can I make a suggestion to
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the Chicago producers. Oh? Yeah, and I think that they should film
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the Ariana show, give it a full filming treatment and put it on Peacock.
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Sell it to Peacock. It's not going to kill your ticket sales.
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It's only going to help who I mean, next person is? I agree.
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I would love that, and they should do that for every person who
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is a celebrity that steps into that role. I would have loved to have
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seen Erica. Yeah, yep, okay, all right. Also Bravo's Top
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Cheft Cheft and who is He? It's a spin off of Top Chef heading
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to Wisconsin for season twenty one, premiering March twentieth. Oh, I love
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that we're at Madison. I don't know. They say Wisconsin. They didn't
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tell me the city. I'm guessing I sure Madison. Okay, well that
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sounds lovely. Then that bell? Oh okay, here's Bravo Housewife says that
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Kyle Richards doubled down on her BFF status with Morgan Wade when she sat front
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and center during the singer's concert in Tennessee Saturday. So and they Morgan posted
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yesterday I'm not mad at Kyle Richards or something like that. Yeah, what
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was that? Because I didn't sing it, I mean sing it. I
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didn't, but you did sing today. You sang it. I heard you
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you wrote a huge ballad. Look, that's because I was finding this music
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on myta cown. It's just swooped. People say it, she said,
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she said, rolling mom s concert and I don't know what she's singing.
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We're not mad any Chiller. It's just public damn it. I really gotta
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extend that track. Whatever, probably all better. Yeah, so who knows
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what but why they scrubbed each other's thing. But Kyle did say to like
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TMZ or Backward or somebody, she was like, no, she's got a
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new album dropping. That's what you do when that happens. And I will
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say what I did. Look, I'm gonna say this Kathy. Speaking of
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Kathy, she didn't delete the pictures from the Christmas party, which were most
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recent. That's because I would have suit her. I own the world.
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They were just in a slide. They were like deeper in. They weren't
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on the front. They weren't the first picture. But if you, if
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you like, scroll through, Morgan's still in a lot of Kyle's pictures.
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She's just not the first picture. And the carousel, yes, thank you.
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Well that's because no one's gonna do what you would do. Yeah,
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No, one's going to do. What you would do is scroll through that
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care They're not going to go back. I mean no, you're right,
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people are going to go back and scroll through a carousel. You would think
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that people that are like going so hard in on them and making it like
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their huge post of the decade would actually just do a little scroll, just
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a little breeze through the carousel. Right, Yeah, but it is odd.
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It's very odd, like maybe they had a falling out again. This
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is like a really different kind of relationship for both Morgan and Kyle. It's
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going to be super bumpy. We don't even have confirmation that they're in a
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relationship. Everybody's doing the best they can. Let's just all shoulders down.
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Breaths, deep breaths. No, forget to bring it's beautiful, thank you,
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Lere's nothing to see here. This is how Kyle watches every Morgan show.
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Just interface cell phone interface recording. That's what the fight was about.
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Yeah, it was probably put your phone down, it's distracting me. You're
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supposed to be a professional, all right. Onto the other news. Housewives
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of SLC account reports that The Daily Mail reports that Jenshawn and Elizabeth Holmes are
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bonding in prison, and Gen's manager says they're both rehabilitating. Shaw is said
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to be a motherly figure in the federal prison for Holmes, Wow, who
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gave birth to her second child just months before she was locked up. The
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Real Housewife has even held Holmes's daughter in Victa during family visits, with the
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source, adding Gen's given her a lot of advice. I'm sure that's great
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advice. They're friends, Giovanni added, They're both rehabilitating and have bonded over
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being on this journey of positive change. Their situations brought them together and they
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have a good understanding of one another. They're getting through it together. There's
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pictures of them walking around the yard looking happy. How about that happy and
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brazy? Mm hmm. You know, I think that they are in a
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you know, they're in a situation where they might actually become friends in there.
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But the second that they are both free, I don't. I mean,
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that is going to be not good for anybody else because they are so
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both of those two will construct a plan and it will end the world.
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They're both very conniving and so theopastic and so yeah, Wow or it can
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be one heck of a Netflix series. I mean, why not just like
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do the phone calls, you know what I mean, Like put up the
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captions, do the phone call interviews, and just throw it up on Netflix.
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Done. Speaking of people fighting the lawn in prison and doing the lead
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things. The Bravo Docket podcast has a new episode out and it says that
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they it's Girardi is competent to stand trial a public defender ways in So this
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is just a great podcast. You guys should check it out. We love
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them. I haven't listened Emily has Emily recording from gorgeous California. What do
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you have? I've not listened to the Public Defender episode was pre recorded and
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I haven't listened to that yet, so I will, okay, But I
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listened to one in two of the Girardi kind of competency breakdown based on the
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court papers that they did on Bravo Docket, and I finished listening to the
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second part of that episode today and they reference this interview that's coming up.
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But the big takeaway for me was that during uh Tom Girardi's medical evaluation,
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he said that he doesn't remember his third wife, and then Erica calls him
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during the medical evaluation for court, you know, not probably realizing that that's
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going on, calls him and says, I'm going to Spain tomorrow. I
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just wanted to call you and let you know. And then he completely remembered
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Erica and told the medical evaluator that was Erica, my third wife, and
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she's she's going to Spain tomorrow. So thank god. Yeah. Also side
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note that the Bravo docket said that either Erica is lying or completely misunderstood about
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those ear rings and that they absolutely came from a victim's account to the documents.
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Wow, okay, yeah wow, which was my vibe too when she
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was saying like why, I was like, you don't. I don't know
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what you're saying and why you're demanding this, but I'm not. This feels
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wonky, like why she was demanding like full forgiveness from the ladies. It
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was like such a loophole. Oh, well, they need to prove that.
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They have yet to totally prove that then yet, because if it was
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dismissed, yeah, no, the way that it's described in the Bravo docket,
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it is the way they described it. It sounds like it came from
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the victim's account. Elements of it are dismissed, but not the whole thing.
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There is certain Yeah, I can't so then that well, no,
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that's fine. I mean, and I'm sure the Bravo docket is right,
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I am not so, I'm just curious to see then will she ultimately have
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to turn over the ear rings then if that's the case, right, No,
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the earrings are I think that the earrings were turned over. It's a
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matter of them the money that the earrings are. Remember also she turned in
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earrings, and there was a question about if they were the same earrings.
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But anyway, the ear we're now just talking about the money for the earrings.
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Okay, all right, who gets that? Oh okay, So the
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earrings have been liquidated and now it's just where does the money go? Interesting,
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that's my understanding. All right. Wow, Wow, those Bravo Docket
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ladies, they sure have a great niche going. I mean, I love
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it. Yeah, and yeah, I mean side note too, in terms
21:42
of speaking of lawyers, Emily over there on Teddy's and Emily's podcast, they're
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going in for James Kennedy. So did you know, Oh no, yeah,
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So we have talked about it. We have talked about like there have
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been a lot of rumors about James being kind of violent and when are they
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going to come up? And now they've talked about it, I guess on
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the Wow episode. I haven't heard it yet. Allegedly we know much about
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it. Interesting. Oh my god, whoa wow? But duh wow wee
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wow wow wow wow wow. Funny because Kyle he just comes out of the
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gates screaming that. In my mind every time we play that, I'm like,
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he's just freshly angry. He is probably freshly angry right now. So
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we are in Spain. Mmmm, we're still in Spain. We got a
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scatter these ashes. I mean, we're just we're putoot and we're dragging our
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feet. Let's just get let's get there. As much as I appreciate that
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Sutton is going to be pissed that Kyle didn't cry and disclose about Mauricio in
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that moment when Sutton's being vulnerable, I have a feeling during the reunion,
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Sutton's going to be like, you wouldn't even talk. Why didn't you tell
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me? You know. I just got a feeling that she was like waiting
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for Kyle to disclose about Mauricio. Yeah, Well, because she was being
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so transparent about her marriage and how much anger she had with her that she'd
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you know, had been caring for so long. But I did like how
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in Kyle's confessionals she was like, I trust you guys to talk about this.
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Yeah. I mean, she was like on a vacation with them,
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but she's not gonna tell them much. And I kind of don't don't blame
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her in a way. It just didn't seem like, how can I say
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this the right time and the right place. It wasn't the time in the
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place. It felt like, of course, every episode is the time and
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the place because that's your show. But and that's what you're supposed to do.
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However, it really was like Sutton's moment for all of this, it
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really was about Sutton. Yeah, I agree. I was glad that Kyle
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didn't bring it up because also I don't think I think that there's some unspoken
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thing too. It's like, you bring it up when you have the full
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energy to deal with it, and I just don't think Kyle's there yet.
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No, And she said that interconfessional, when she's ready to talk about it,
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she'll talk about it. You can't push someone into doing that. I
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mean, even if you are a real housewife, this is a marriage that
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has been going on for years and years and years. It's complicated. We
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saw her facetiming with her girls, worried about where Mauricio and Porsche are going
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to be having dinner, you know, and who they're going to be having
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dinner with, and I thought, this is so complex, you know.
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And in the meantime, while I'm watching that, I'm screenshotting her hair tools
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and sending them to Emily, saying, is that a dce in like hair?
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Whatever? What do you call it? I mean, like, she's
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the only one not paying for glam so if she's gonna pay five hundred dollars
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for a hair dryer, it kind of makes sense. Well yeah, and
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her hair like she would I mean that wand if it's a dice in hair
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wand you don't know if that's what it's called orriver, but it was huge
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and I'm thinking that thing would swallow me up whole because I have no hair,
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so that's not going to do me any favors. But like for Kyle,
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it totally makes sense. She's got a lot of hair. She gotta
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make it look nice, you know. I mean those dyceons probably are no
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joke, and I'm sure they're amazing. Yeah, I think too. I
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love that Kyle does her own glam and she looks amazing. Yeah, what
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is your take on now? I mean, I know I'm jumping ahead,
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and I apologize from the deepest parts please, but uh, who cares?
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Erica disclosing and talking to her Glam team is annoying. Where we're getting her
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talking to them. It's basically like a confessional or an interview, except for
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the producers are the Glam team, and they're just trying chiming in and supporting
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her like like just lap dogs kind of because they are paid and to be
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there in her face. Of course they're going to be very kind. And
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I'm just like, well, are they on this show? Like what's going
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on here? Yeah? And then part of me is like, good,
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good for them that they're getting this exposure, the Glam Team. But I'm
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of two minds about it. So I maybe it'll evolve into something that I
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like a little bit more, but right now I'm annoyed by it because they're
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the only ones who have empathy over her situation. You think, No,
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it's it's a thing that I'm noticed seeing more and more as we're seeing more
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and more glam teams on the show. Oh right, they really involve them
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and yes, yeah, yeah, you're right, like Garcel always make sure
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to have a moment, right, So I don't know Also if that's like
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maybe one of the side agreements that they make with the team, like like
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I'm gonna make sure you get some camera time and then deduct like it cost
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you X instead of why. Like I don't know what the side hustle is
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on that, but as a viewer, I am unsure how I feel,
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but I'm leaning towards not enjoying it. Okay, all right, wow,
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I mean it is kind of like when we see a scene like that,
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it could be something that the producers are asking to do, like just do
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your glam talk to them like you normally would, so that we see the
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side of it. And because we know that glam blam, here's everything.
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We know what goes on there because they're they're best friends, you know,
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many of them. It's like we talked about You're it's like you're in the
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therapist office. You're going to tell them everything once you sit in that glamp
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chair. Look out right, so perhaps it's one of those things where it's
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a little bit of the breaking of the fourth wall that we see in reunions
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and such, where we kind of get that. So, yeah, the
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whole Eric thing with her wanting the apology from the women and what they've contributed
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to her was interesting that she chose to do that with you know, the
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ashes ceremony, and there were a lot of eye rolls you could hear in
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the wind, you know, and a lot of faces before ashes got everywhere.
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But I thought when I saw the preview for that episode, I was
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like, oh, well maybe because we saw the preview of the ashes and
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the ashes flying back, and I was like, oh, maybe just the
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wind picked up right when they threw it. No, no, no,
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that wind was going from I was like, did you not see the big
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Lebowski. This is not gonna go Well, how does no one know that?
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Like, they're nowhere near the water, It's never gonna go. Well,
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they need to figure something out. I was thinking, like, is
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there a way you can attach ashes to a pouch on a drone and then
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send the drone out to the middle of the ocean, have it drop and
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then come back. That's your only hope, because it's always going to be
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a disaster and here, here you are, merce left the purse and is
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now on every cast member of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I did
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love that Sutton said, he just leapt over, you know, and because
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he's dancing, I just thought that was really cute. But for merce,
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you know, well, I was surprised sett and handled that so well.
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I thought she would be like because she was so even just handling the ashes
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out of the bag. She was like so precious. And then the second
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they hit garcels back, she's like, wherever they land, they land,
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you know. It's like, wow, okay, so you went all the
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way to Spain so they can land on your friends, all right, I
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mean, what are you going to do at that point? I guess.
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I mean she's emotionally drained. She can't you can't get mersed back in the
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box, you know. I yeah, they should have done a boat charter.
30:37
That's what you do. And then they put them down likes smart there
30:42
you go, and then yeah and yeah with the back of the boat.
30:48
Yeah, that seems well within a Housewives event. So let's what I didn't
30:53
understand why that wasn't an option. You would not ever put ashes on a
30:59
Shorelann. They're just gonna stay on the shoreline. Never never ever put ashes
31:07
on a shoreline. Oh yes, for two clicks for that anchor, No,
31:18
three whatever clicks. I don't know what it was. Yeah, wow,
31:25
I just I can't get over the discrepancy of the ashes. So many
31:30
good options, you know, And how would you feel being that person with
31:36
the person's dead body you're wearing who are you wearing? Mrhs? Like,
31:42
how do you feel about that? You're going to go home? You're gonna
31:47
shake out the ashes now, the ashes some of them will be, you
31:51
know, outside of that villa or in the room. Some will go down
31:55
the drain when you wash your hair. Yeah, Like, I mean he's
31:59
ever aware now, he's everywhere. Now that I guess that's how you that's
32:04
how you do it, as long as Sutton isn't pissed about it, like
32:07
it's fine. But I really thought it was going to be a whole thing.
32:12
And then and then I was like, oh I do not care,
32:15
okay, cool? Oh god wow. Really I blamed Trevor. I do
32:24
blame Trevor because I think he's the one that found the spot and thought that
32:28
would be a great idea. Trevor found that spot right because he walked them
32:32
there. Yeah, oh Trevor, Yeah, Wow, she's too lay,
32:45
she's this two does the wind is in your hair? And so is Mercy
32:51
doesn't care. I really got to fixtend that well. Gosh, gosh,
32:59
darn. I did find sutton speech to be emotional, very beautiful, beautiful
33:05
California, beautiful Spain. I loved, you know, the symbolism of her
33:09
letting go her marriage, her father's death and merce and and by the way,
33:16
we did get clarification that her father's ashes are lost because she's moved so
33:21
many times. But it wasn't his full ashes. It was just a little
33:23
pouch. That's right. It's just an appeteaser. Sorry, that's disgusting.
33:30
Maybe she'll find him. We can extend the storyline. So and everybody what
33:40
they said when they got up there with their flower lays. I thought it
33:44
was great, you know, yeah, I did too. You know,
33:49
I just had a thought. I wonder if Sutton actually, like has chosen
33:55
subconsciously to loose her dad's ashes so she doesn't have to foll say goodbye,
34:01
like deal with it. Right, yeah, mm hmm. Anyway, she
34:07
had a good step towards that. Yeah, Garcelle made me cry. She
34:15
was like, I just want to let go feeling lonely, a lot abandonment
34:17
issues and not having my dad in my life. It's not very often that
34:23
she cries. Yeah, and now it's great, that's all gone away.
34:29
So as soon as she put the flowers in, that was done. Now
34:30
she's never know, she's fine. Yeah right, yeah, you know,
34:36
it was funny because everybody was being so vulnerable and then Anne Marie is like,
34:40
I'm not going to give generalities away, Like it's just like I'm gonna
34:46
just no to be better. Here's my flowers. That's the perfect Anne Marie
34:54
thing to do. I did think it was perfect in the sense that she
34:58
doesn't really know them all that well, and it just kind of lifted back
35:00
a little bit more of her personality too, you know, which is like
35:07
which is what? Which is? I'm a tough cookie and I know that,
35:13
and even in when I'm being vulnerable, I'm still going to be a
35:15
tough cookie. It's going to take a lot more than just throwing ashes and
35:21
flowers into the ocean to get to know me. And what's going on with
35:24
my allegedly her era of my husband, that is the case against him right
35:34
now. Well, like I think she goes after people's deep vulnerabilities. I
35:43
ease Sutton, and I'm kind of like Anne, Marie, this was your
35:46
chance to maybe show that you were vulnerable and maybe give something to Sutton that
35:53
you're going to now trust her with or the group. And what instead what
36:00
he did was like she it was like it was as general as a fortune
36:05
cookie, you know, like it meant nothing. I mean to me,
36:07
I was just like, what like at the end, she was like lucky
36:10
numbers eleven, twenty three, forty two. I mean lucky. I mean,
36:19
I guess, Look, I don't know. I didn't have as much
36:21
of a problem with it as you did. I thought she did what she
36:25
could do, and I didn't have a problem with it. I really didn't.
36:29
I don't know why I just didn't. I mean, it doesn't touch
36:31
what you're supposed to do with Eckertole, when you lived through the mind,
36:37
made self comprised of thought and emotion, that is the ego. Did you
36:42
want her to say that, Emily, she's not there yet? That would
36:45
be hilarious but you know, she'd misquote it to be like the non basis
36:52
of self is an ego. I swear that's what he says. It's not
36:59
a medical whole condition. Okay, there's something else to it. It's not
37:04
just a small esophagus. Yeah, I mean, I'm saying, like,
37:09
I want a peaceful place for me and my family. You know, she
37:13
hasn't been through. We don't know what she knows at this point, you
37:16
know about her husband and her marriage. Yeah, so maybe that's why she
37:22
has a wall up. Yeah, that is true. That is a good
37:27
point. I think she does a great job at deflecting, which is a
37:32
key ingredient to a housewife, not a key ingredient to a friend. Right.
37:37
But you know, I know that's there's a lot of controversy around her
37:43
in the cast, and so I'm trying to like not judge too harshly because
37:51
she is bringing drama even though I can see every single string, like you
37:58
know, it's it's it's basic, it's basic dere It's like, you know,
38:05
talking about how she is the PTSD and she wants to really try to
38:07
leave it there, and then we get like another, how many times are
38:12
we going to see this flashback of PK being like, at what point,
38:15
babe does a PTSD stop? And the annoying thing begins because tell the difference.
38:21
It's like, dude, how many times we have to see PK being
38:24
such an asshole but also kind of being right, you know, I mean,
38:27
there's it was like, no, no, no, don't throw away
38:30
your story. Arc damn whoa Okay, oh my gosh, damn girl,
38:45
bofe. That's it that I'm not taking away, like I guess I am.
38:52
I am taking away her concept of PTSD and I'm not trying to do
38:57
that. What I'm trying to say is I think that again, she has
39:00
been around long enough that that we know enough, and I think that she
39:05
could be more vulnerable in terms of what she demands from Kyle knocks Kyle,
39:13
Kyle cot okay, Sultan Garcel, Garcel, Garcel, Garcel, I just
39:30
Garsel. I'm not trying to be racist. I just am I just Garsel.
39:38
Sorry. I know she's not racist, She's not anyway. So yeah,
39:51
Erica my anger. She got up there like ready to take this day.
40:00
Hello America, Jane. This first number has been choreographed by Mikey Minton.
40:07
I'd like to throw into the ocean each and every one of you for
40:12
not being there for me when I needed it to be. I told you
40:16
the appeal was going to be dimissed, dismissed, reversed, upside downside bath
40:21
of bliss, or whatever that it was. And you weren't there for me
40:27
then, and you weren't there for me now. And I think that,
40:31
who's that? Who's that? No? No, no, yeah, I
40:44
mean this goes in line with the retreat Erica that we saw at the beginning
40:47
of the season, where it's a monologue. But I was glad that she
40:52
said it because I was like, this is you need you need. At
40:58
least one person did a totally wrong note at a memorial and Erica did it.
41:02
So thank you Erica and totally wrong note. So that's what she did
41:10
there, she did it there, you go wow, Well I did like
41:17
that. Later, Crystal and Erica were at CA We're walking down the cobblestone
41:23
streets and Crystal was like, I'm sorry I contributed to your pain. I
41:28
liked that. Yeah, that was nice. And to Crystal's memorial moment about
41:32
her brother, I thought that was like, I did appreciate it. It
41:37
was specific. It was not hiding behind something. It was and I was
41:45
just like, gosh, who is this again? And then I was like,
41:46
oh, that's Crystal, right, I forgot and then who's her brother?
41:52
Okay, thank you for the flashback right now, and we're back.
41:55
I just was like, I can't believe that that's what she's going to talk
41:59
about at the thing. But whatever, I mean, everyone has their journeys.
42:01
I just you I had. I had a problem with her, sure,
42:07
I had a problem with hers, not a problem with Anne Marie's.
42:10
And you didn't have a problem with crystals, and you had a problem with
42:13
an Marie. So we'll just we have to you know, we have to
42:15
throw our flowers into the ocean, and you know, let it, just
42:22
let it be there, because I don't I guess, so we're not going
42:24
to come to a conclusion. Started to cry, so flowers, throw them
42:37
into the ocean. Fucking myself hours sing it girl, you don't say okay,
42:49
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okay. I'm not yelling, I'm I'm just passionate. So now we're in
45:49
the sprinter van and we are heading over to the dinner where they're all wearing
45:52
red. Byeay. Yeah, were you a little surprised that none of the
45:57
gals knew what a bear was? Oh? Or an otter? Or oh?
46:01
That was the terms? I mean, I feel like Erica articulated it,
46:07
but I think that most would have known. Who said did somebody not
46:12
know? No? They were all confused by it, and then like getting
46:15
they were like, what's a bear? Oh wow? And I was really
46:20
surprised by that in terms of terms that gay men call each other. And
46:25
I was like, okay. But then when Garcel said Andy was on the
46:30
show, and I asked him if he was a top or a bottom,
46:31
and I am sure that Andy said he was a power top, but Garcel
46:37
said and Andy said he was a powerful top, powerful top, Right,
46:42
Yes, you're right, that did. I was like, that's a miss.
46:47
Something's amiss here, yes, because I remember when that came out too,
46:52
and I think that's exactly what he said instead of he said, oh
46:58
my god, that was funny because like, oh, you know, it's
47:00
like a bay the cub, a baby cob an otter. But I just
47:06
thought like, surely the housewives of Beverly Hills would are hip enough to these
47:10
terms. But I guess not. Well, I want to know who said
47:15
what's a bear? Because I feel like whoever it was is the only person
47:17
that didn't know, because I can't imagine them not knowing. But I guess
47:22
I could be wrong, as I am many a time. Well me too.
47:28
That was the way I took it, and then I was lost in
47:30
the powerful top, powerful top and then a blouse that was funny like that.
47:40
So what is okay this whole thing about oh boy, Erica. Well,
47:51
I'm sorry Kyle talking about the papers and like signing papers and documents from
47:54
your husband. Girl, she's getting learn one lesson from Teresa. I mean,
48:04
like, I'm just kind of like you. I mean, let that
48:07
be a lesson to everybody. Teresa went to prison because she was just signing
48:09
shit away. I know it, but I get that Kyle is enough.
48:16
But I guess what makes me really nervous too is that they have so much
48:21
money wrapped up in the agency and all that. And I not anything to
48:27
do with Mauricio not trusting him as your husband more. Just like there are
48:31
a lot more hands, there's a lot more money. You might want to
48:36
have a better understanding of what you're signing so that you don't accidentally not pay
48:40
taxes or like accidentally, like even if you have to pay someone to explain
48:45
something to you, like a third party that didn't do any of this stuff,
48:49
like once a year, that might be helpful when you're dealing with millions
48:52
of dollars that's sum in a corporation. I'm not this is really stressing me
48:59
out because that you know, are you? I want to say there's a
49:04
big difference between Joe Judice and Mauricio Umanski. But I don't know, you
49:09
know. I mean, I guess anything is possible. M h. I
49:15
mean, but it's too late for Kyle, so like whatever's done is done,
49:20
you know, So if any dirty business has happened, her signature will
49:25
be on it. Yeah. But to Sutton's point, and especially right now,
49:31
I hope that Kyle heard her to not sign anything because moving forward.
49:38
Yeah, yeah, because especially as the marriage is possibly falling apart. You
49:45
know, maybe Mauricio has already sought counsel and maybe there's some like funky thing
49:53
that his counsel's recommending. Mauricio just slips over and Kyle signs like, I
49:59
don't know, you know, they refinanced the house, so what was that?
50:04
You know? Like, I just I feel it's a lot of heavy
50:07
lifting and a lot of work. But I feel like Kyle really needs to
50:13
starts to do that right, meaning every day she's got to go to Morgan's
50:20
concerts. Don't put any more on her shoulders. She's got this documents,
50:27
so much money on that Morgan documentary. Mauricy's gonna want that money. I
50:30
know you better sign something about that. You're right, well, I mean,
50:37
god, this is making me really nervous. I felt like she felt
50:44
I could feel her like a little bit of embarrassment, like, well,
50:47
you know what if I did, Like, it's so what, that's what's
50:51
happening. There's nothing I can do about it now. But here's the thing
50:53
Sutton's saying, like, never sign anything before you read it. I was
50:59
just wondering if that's what she was doing the whole time she was married to
51:01
her husband. I mean, hindsight is twenty twenty, so when she's thinking
51:06
back, is that where the place that she's speaking from. I mean,
51:10
Eric is certainly doing that, but you know, Kyle is in it,
51:15
so it's easy for other people to say when they're on they're past that position
51:20
and they can look back, whereas Kyle is like in it right now.
51:22
So hopefully it was a wake up call. And well, Anne Marie was
51:25
interesting. She was like, I just have a business manager, explain it
51:29
to me. And I thought that was really smart. It's very smart.
51:34
And Kyle's already said that they don't have one. Remember when she was in
51:37
the kitchen and there was all that mail and stuff. Thank god I didn't
51:42
remember she said she didn't have a business manager. They don't have a business
51:45
yeh, she doesn't have one. That's crazy, that's I know. Yeah.
51:50
So this was like maybe in the second or something episode of the season,
51:53
and it was just alarming to me, especially you know, Kyle's mother
52:01
was like really good about like you gotta watch your own back kind of thing,
52:07
like nobody else is gonna watch it for you don't trust a a husband
52:12
and you I just I don't know. Yeah, the fact that she told
52:16
us that her mom said that was wild. Yeah. So, and it's
52:23
not like Mauricio, I mean allegedly maybe has been going out for a minute
52:30
on Kyle, And I mean that would be my first inkling to be like,
52:37
I gotta maybe look at some shiit not to mention like, I don't
52:42
know. There were so many points that I'm like, Kyle, You've got
52:45
to take care of yourself. I don't understand una coca cola, normal,
52:53
ana cocca. I was so happy Kyle made fun of that. Yeah,
53:05
I loved it. Oh read. It's funny that like she's taking out her
53:14
anger at Kyle through fashion, you know, like because they're really far apart
53:19
as we know, and Durit's been very vocal about that on the show and
53:22
the interviews in blogs and stuff like that. And the way that she's getting
53:28
back at Kyle is just like, Kyle, that's not red. I can't
53:31
believe you would show up an orange red Kyle. This dress is what are
53:37
you doing? Kyle? It's like that's how she's taking out her anger on
53:39
her is just like ripping her fashions. My gosh, what is wait,
53:47
hold on a second, what was this thing about Sutton at the dinner where
53:52
she was like some of us got invitations? Yeah, how did that?
53:59
We missed a step? Why didn't she get an invitation? I don't know
54:04
that was right? And also it looked like Erica did a big old like
54:09
production of like an in person invite with like bells, whistles, dancers,
54:15
limos, the whole nine, like an old school Housewives intro like party kind
54:21
of invite. And how fucked up is it that Sutton didn't get an invite?
54:28
And it sounds like she's the only one. I don't know. I
54:30
don't understand. And I she chartered the plane to New York City last year,
54:37
right, I did think that was in bad form. Yeah, and
54:44
it's not like sudden. I don't get the vibe that. Oh I guess,
54:46
actually I take that back, so well, she charted not last year,
54:52
that was I think two seasons ago, because two seasons two was Sutton
55:00
versus Erica, so maybe Eric is still kind of pissed about that. Weird.
55:07
Yeah, but it was not cool, and especially like Erica acting like
55:12
what it's fine, Sutton's going to be invited, what is she going on?
55:15
Like, yeah, but Erica, like you get why that would be
55:19
offensive. And the fact that Sutton was that chill about it. I was
55:22
surprised, I know she maybe the big production invite only went to Kyle and
55:31
it was filmed and that's it because that was the budget. Oh that's true.
55:37
That's a good point. That's a good point. Maybe. But we
55:40
do know in real time that Lisa Rinna went, k did Teddy go?
55:51
Yeah, I think maybe, But who did not go? And well,
55:55
who did not go was Garcelle and Sutton. They went to a Dodgers game,
56:00
but and then they went to a different show. Okay, they went
56:02
to a different show later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
56:05
Right, weird, very weird. All right, Well, Kyle, when
56:13
they go back home, they're done, Oh I'm sorry. They get on
56:15
the stage and dance and Jerie it's like, I, Kyle, I don't
56:20
I mean, Sutton, I don't actually know if I can do this with
56:22
my shoes and my dress. And then they get up there and like just
56:28
stand there and clap, you know, like, oh, okay, great
56:35
job. I think it was right before they were all on stage. That's
56:38
when Anne Marie totally miss quotes what Erica said and but makes it like she's
56:46
like, we're going to talk about this as the group now, where She's
56:49
like, Erica, we were out throwing the flowers. You said that you
56:57
wanted to let go of things, no matter what people might say? What
56:59
was if I saw that? What? Why would you say that? And
57:02
I'm like, she, well, for starters, she didn't say that memory,
57:07
but let's go ahead and make that a storyline, right, okay,
57:15
so making stuff up and you were outside when we were uh with the ashes,
57:22
you had actually accused Crystal of funneling money ring merse, what was that
57:31
about? I'm sorry, I am well, Erica went with it because she
57:38
I'm sure she was just waiting for someone to bring it up, and she's
57:42
like, this is a glass is gonna be let's go, let's go.
57:44
Time came on places. Yeah, yeah, So she had hit her mark.
57:55
And then what did she even the guy on stage I don't even know.
57:59
She tried to like say, it was so convoluted, go ahead,
58:04
give us, give us a snippet. Oh, she was saying. Then
58:12
there was that flashback or she said something about like nobody understood me, and
58:16
nobody had my bag when I most needed it and to eat this apple.
58:22
And then Garcel then they did that flashback and Garcel's like kind of like,
58:29
I stand by what I did, but you watch that flashback. Eric was
58:31
not approachable in any real way last season. Yeah, and as a viewer,
58:39
we all were agreeing with Crystal and Garcel like it was in sudden because
58:46
she was so nightmarish in her reactions. Yeah, oh my god, totally
58:52
that's right. Because Garcel was like, well that Eagle Woman's ritreat you said
58:55
you can't trust this group. Is that why you didn't invite us to yourself?
59:00
And then she's like, trust is earned if you come to my show.
59:08
I would if I got invited. Yeah. I just think like they
59:17
keep waiting for Erica to just have more empathy, and I don't think it's
59:23
ever going to happen. I think that ship is sailed. Yeah, you're
59:28
gonna have to take it or leave it with Erica. She's doing the most
59:30
she's gonna do. Absolutely. Yeah, I am excited to watch that documentary
59:37
that's coming out though. Yes, it's a two hour documentary and what was
59:44
the date again? I'm trying to it's in March. Yeah, it's in
59:46
March seventh or something. So Erica preparing for her show and it does look
59:52
great. Yeah, it looks really good. I'm excited. There's some crying,
59:57
there's some some of her being like, Mikey mindon is crying. We're
1:00:01
less than twenty four hours away. Oh yeah, March sixth, bet it
1:00:07
All on Blonde two part special event. Excited We're going to talk about that.
1:00:15
Oh, we're going to talk about it. Well, Kyle, at
1:00:17
the end of this episode talking to you, We're just gonna skip right over
1:00:23
Crystal's kids doing math. The fuck is wrong with you? Look, I'm
1:00:31
sorry. I I think I dipped out at that point. I don't think
1:00:35
I didn't clock that one bit. Is that what happened? Matt? How
1:00:44
did I miser this? Yeah? It was riveting. Math is hard.
1:00:51
Math is hard, But Jesus, like, I don't need to see your
1:00:52
kids doing math? Like I was just like, is there a way to
1:00:55
make Crystal more boring? Oh? We found it. It's going to be
1:01:00
watching you and your kids too, mad Lord. Anyway, I'm t exactly
1:01:12
every time I like start to like like want Crystal on more I'm like,
1:01:15
they got they throw this in my face. Sorry, I'm done. Oh
1:01:23
keep going, you got your violins. Well anyway, so Dart and Kyle
1:01:34
talk about her marriage, and Kyle's like, I was in therapy and then
1:01:39
Mauricio joined me and they had like it's good and they don't fight and they
1:01:46
just want peace. But that's not always a good thing. And then she
1:01:50
talks about in her confessional that he doesn't put the work into their marriage like
1:01:54
he does the agency. Yeah. I thought that was a good point.
1:01:59
It is, and her being like when I told him we were in trouble
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and he needed to work through this with me. I needed to feel like
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I was a priority and we were a priority. If there's no effort,
1:02:10
we're not going to end up together. We'll never survive this. Yeah.
1:02:17
I was also glad that we got the flashback to Kyle in therapy. I
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didn't need it. But what I was like when she said Mauricio and I
1:02:24
are going to therapy, I was like, please, not a flash I
1:02:27
don't need to see them in therapy. I'm glad they're doing that off camera.
1:02:31
Oh why, well that is probably more real. It's what's needed.
1:02:38
Yeah, I don't think Mauricio and Kyle can truly if they're really going to
1:02:44
make an effort, it's got to be private. They've got to talk about
1:02:47
kids stuff like I want them. We understand that they're in therapy. I
1:02:52
get it, that's great and that I want it all. I don't want
1:02:55
to see it. Yeah, I don't want to see that. Plus Maurriso
1:03:01
is going to be stoned, you know, yes, yes, and I
1:03:06
don't want you know, they did that flashback of them talking and then like
1:03:10
Porsche walking in and that was uncomfortable enough, So I don't want them in
1:03:15
therapy, thinking like my kids are going to watch this, Well, they're
1:03:20
already watching all. I mean that was weird too. I was thinking that
1:03:22
Kyle, they're filming, Yeah, filming, so we're just going to see
1:03:27
this, but maybe not right now. Yeah, it is, it is,
1:03:30
but I agree, I think it should behind be behind closed doors.
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So for sure, Okay, well that's the show. You know, what
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are we going to do? What else can we say? That's it?
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