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Speaker 1: La from the skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the show. I'm Caroline Marcus
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Speaker 3: filling in for Chris Kenny. Let's take a look at
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Speaker 3: tonight's top stories. Here's what's coming up on the program.
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Speaker 3: Support for the Federal Coalition has pulled a head of
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Speaker 3: labor for the first time in New South Wales. A
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Speaker 3: leading energy expert raises skepticism over the energy modeling Chris
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Speaker 3: Bowen is using in his extreme renewable energy push.
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Speaker 4: He'll join us later in the show.
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Speaker 3: Plus Channel seven maybe adding some very niche segments to
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Speaker 3: its news bulletin. Sophie Elsworth will tell us all about that,
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Speaker 3: and you won't want to miss it. But first, enough
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Speaker 3: is enough. It's time to expel Malcolm Turnbull from the
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Speaker 3: Liberal Party. The former Prime Minister continues to thumb his
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Speaker 3: nose at his former colleagues in a way that demeans
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Speaker 3: both him and the office he once held. Appearing on
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Speaker 3: Channel ten's The Project Last Night to Spook a new
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Speaker 3: political podcast of all things, the former PM stooped to
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Speaker 3: the type of undignified juvenile name calling you'd expect in
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Speaker 3: the school yard.
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Speaker 4: What sort of Prime Minister will Peter Dunton make if
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Speaker 4: he wins.
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Speaker 5: I think that's something we should contemplate with dread. Really well,
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Speaker 5: he's a thug and Peter's got one tune that he plays.
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Speaker 5: I mean that's been to all his political life, and
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Speaker 5: that is division and animosity, generally targeted at immigrants. It
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Speaker 5: is really I couldn't think of anyone less suited to
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Speaker 5: be Prime Minister of a multicultural society like Australia.
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Speaker 3: A thug, that's what he calls him. It's an especially
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Speaker 3: odious given Peter Dutton is a former police officer whose
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Speaker 3: very job it was to lock thugs up, in particular
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Speaker 3: thugs who terrorize women and children. In Turnbull's answer is
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Speaker 3: also the very ugly insinuation of racism, of xenophobia. And
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Speaker 3: of course it was all lapped up by the Lefty
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Speaker 3: Project panel and audience met with laughter even applause.
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Speaker 4: But Turnbull didn't stop there.
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Speaker 3: Revealing he's considering voting against his party and for Labor
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Speaker 3: at the next election.
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Speaker 6: Is there a chance in the next election you would
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Speaker 6: vote Labor?
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Speaker 5: Well, it's always a chance. I haven't done so, but
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Speaker 5: you know I've got There are all sorts of options
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Speaker 5: that is a secret well.
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Speaker 3: It may be a secret ballot, but he's made his
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Speaker 3: utter contempt for his former colleagues as open as can be.
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Speaker 3: What started is bitterness over the twenty eighteen leaderships field
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Speaker 3: cost him his job and landed Scott Morrison the top
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Speaker 3: gig has turned into active campaigning now against the man
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Speaker 3: who could be the next Liberal prime minister. It's not
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Speaker 3: the first time Turnbull has resorted to using the word
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Speaker 3: thug either to describe mister Dutton. He first reached for
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Speaker 3: the slur when speaking on the ABC's Nemesis series earlier
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Speaker 3: this year.
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Speaker 4: If I said the name Peter Dutton, what one word
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Speaker 4: springs it to your mind?
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Speaker 2: Thug?
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Speaker 3: At the time, the Opposition leader laughed off the unflattering
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Speaker 3: character assessment. Mister Dutton wouldn't be tempted into lashing back,
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Speaker 3: instead pledging to champion every former leader of his great
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Speaker 3: party and said he would continue to do so in
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Speaker 3: the future.
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Speaker 4: But this concept of a.
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Speaker 3: Dignified political retirement is as obvious by now completely alien
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Speaker 3: to Turnbull. This turncoat's petulant efforts at sabotage should no
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Speaker 3: longer be tolerated by the Liberals, as the election looms large.
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Speaker 4: A quick trip down recent memory lane will remind you.
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Speaker 3: Is that this is the person who critiques the idea
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Speaker 3: of an Indigenous voice to Parliament when he was Prime Minister,
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Speaker 3: arguing it goes against the idea of all Australians having
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Speaker 3: equal rights. Yet after mister Dutton announced the party would
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Speaker 3: be endorsing the no position on the voice, what do
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Speaker 3: you know, Suddenly he's campaigning alongside Labor and the Teals
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Speaker 3: for a voice. His open war on his colleagues began
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Speaker 3: well before then, though, way back in twenty fifteen, when
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Speaker 3: he rolled Tony Abbott citing the loss of thirty news
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Speaker 3: polls in a row. Coincidentally, it didn't take him long
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Speaker 3: to surpass that record himself, notching up an impressive thirty
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Speaker 3: eight losses. And just while we're on News poll it
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Speaker 3: must Irk miss Turnbull no end that Mere hours after
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Speaker 3: his Project interview, the latest News poll showed the Coalition
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Speaker 3: ahead of Labor in both his home state of New
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Speaker 3: South Wales and in Queensland. The latest analysis shows the
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Speaker 3: contest tightening between Labor and the Coalition, the former leading
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Speaker 3: now by just fifty one to forty nine on a
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Speaker 3: two party preferred basis. No doubt, the other polling released
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Speaker 3: over the weekend showing an uptick in support for nuclear
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Speaker 3: as well as a surprising level of popularity for the
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Speaker 3: energy generation in Teal, Greens and Independence seats would have
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Speaker 3: got Turnbull's hackles up to After all, he's become a
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Speaker 3: major investor in renewable energy since leaving Parliament. What he
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Speaker 3: hasn't done since leaving is kept his word when he
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Speaker 3: told reporters back in twenty eighteen he'd be keeping out
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Speaker 3: of politics.
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Speaker 5: I left the officer Prime Minister. I'm out of partisan
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Speaker 5: politics and so that is it.
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Speaker 4: Well, that didn't age well.
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Speaker 3: Incidentally, that comment was made when he refused to support
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Speaker 3: the Liberal candidate Dave Shama in his former seat of
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Speaker 3: Wentworth in the by election that Turnbull triggered by quitting
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Speaker 3: in a hissy fit following the spill. Turnbull later openly
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Speaker 3: through his support behind the Teals challenging Liberal seats, including
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Speaker 3: his own form of one of Wentworth, calling it a
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Speaker 3: very healthy development that the Teals were taking on his party.
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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one. There are so many examples of
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Speaker 3: his betrayals you could spend an entire show on them.
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Speaker 3: But don't worry.
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Speaker 4: I won't.
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Speaker 3: However, this latest lander of Peter Dutton, the suggestion that
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Speaker 3: voters should approach the concept of a liberal win with dread,
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Speaker 3: and this ugly implication of racism that plums new depths
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Speaker 3: and surely cannot be tolerated.
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Speaker 4: There is an argument, I suppose that.
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Speaker 3: Expulsion would simply give Malcolm turned all the relevance he
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Speaker 3: obviously so desperately craves.
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Speaker 4: And martyr him.
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Speaker 3: But if you don't take a stand on this, what
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Speaker 3: else will you accept? Well, speaking of martyrs, it appears
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Speaker 3: Green's deputy leader, Marine Ferruki seems to have a remarkably difficult.
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Speaker 4: Time condemning them. I'm talking about the type.
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Speaker 3: Of martyrs that blow themselves up, rape women and murder
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Speaker 3: babies in the name of Islamers.
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Speaker 4: That Islamism. That is the news. Oveel Senator gave what
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Speaker 4: can only.
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Speaker 3: Be described as a thoroughly disgraceful interview on the ABC's
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Speaker 3: Insiders yesterday in which she failed five times to say
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Speaker 3: that Hamas should be dismantled. Here's part of that exchange.
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Speaker 4: He must need to be dismantled.
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Speaker 7: Listen to the situation with Hamas is that it has nothing.
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Speaker 7: I can't keep repeating it again and again. It has
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Speaker 7: nothing to do with Balestinian statehood and Ballastinian self done.
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Speaker 8: The question was this homus we have that.
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Speaker 7: The Balestinians need to decide where they want to go
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Speaker 7: with their own region.
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Speaker 3: Remember, this is a terror organization responsible for the worst
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Speaker 3: massacre on Jews since the Holocaust. Hamas has openly declared
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Speaker 3: it would unleash the horrors of October seven again and
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Speaker 3: again on Israel a million times. It alone is squarely
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Speaker 3: responsible for the immense suffering of its own people, misappropriating
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Speaker 3: the billions of dollars in foreign aid meant for humanitarian
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Speaker 3: purposes to build terror tunnels and plot barbaric attacks on civilians.
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Speaker 3: It triggered a war it designed to bring untold misery
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Speaker 3: upon its own people, for a perverse propaganda campaign that
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Speaker 3: has been swallowed, hook line and sinker by useful idiots
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Speaker 3: the world over, Senator Ferruki among them. How can any
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Speaker 3: politician expected to be taken seriously equivocate on the question
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Speaker 3: of whether they should remain in power once.
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Speaker 4: This terrible conflict is over.
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Speaker 3: In the interview, she also described the recent defacing of
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Speaker 3: the Australian War memorial with pro Palestinian graffiti as no
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Speaker 3: more than some paint on a building saying people are angry.
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Speaker 3: What an insult to the diggers who sacrificed everything so
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Speaker 3: that this country could be what it is today, a
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Speaker 3: place where immigrants like Senator Feruki from Pakistan can even
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Speaker 3: aspire to serve in Federal Parliament. But even in her
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Speaker 3: own workplace. She defended that shocking protest last week.
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Speaker 4: At a security breach at Parliament House.
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Speaker 9: You're a senator, is that something you want to encourage.
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Speaker 7: We're not encouraging any protests that are, you know, violent,
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Speaker 7: and I think it was a bit rich of the
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Speaker 7: Prime Minister to say that kind of unfurling a banner
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Speaker 7: from the top of the Parliament House was somehow not
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Speaker 7: a peaceful protest.
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Speaker 3: A peaceful protest not encouraging violence. This was a protest
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Speaker 3: that featured the words of a genocidal Hammas war chant
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Speaker 3: from the River to the Sea, a slogan that calls
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Speaker 3: for millions of.
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Speaker 4: Jews to be wiped out.
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Speaker 3: The banner, she mentions, had an inverted red triangle on it.
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Speaker 3: That's the Hamma symbol to indicate the terror group's military
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Speaker 3: targets in war, and it's pointing at our partment to
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Speaker 3: defend that, to pretend it's anything but violent and sick
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Speaker 3: and against everything we stand for as a society, tells
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Speaker 3: you all you need to know about the Greens and
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Speaker 3: Senator Faruki. This is a woman, after all, who posed
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Speaker 3: grinning standing right next to a protester holding an anti
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Speaker 3: Semitic sign calling for the world to.
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Speaker 4: Be kept clean of Jews.
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Speaker 3: She later removed the image following backlash, claiming not to
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Speaker 3: have seen the placard A bit hard to believe since
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Speaker 3: it's literally right next to her, but her true feelings
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Speaker 3: about the ugliest, most rabid elements of this movement have
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Speaker 3: been laid bare for all to see in this latest interview.
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Speaker 3: Labour needs to stop preferencing this party of terror apologists.
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Speaker 4: Now, well, let's.
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Speaker 3: Bring in our first guest, Deputy Nationals Leader Paren Davy. Paren,
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Speaker 3: welcome to the show and thank you for your time.
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Speaker 3: I want to start by talking to you, thanks, Paran.
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Speaker 3: I want to start talking to you about the latest
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Speaker 3: newsport The Federal Coalition has pulled ahead of Labor for
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Speaker 3: the first time in New South Wales.
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Speaker 4: Now this is big News New South Wales is.
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Speaker 3: A key battleground stage, as you would obviously be well aware.
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Speaker 4: What did you make of this result?
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Speaker 1: Well, what this result actually shows us is that people
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Speaker 1: are now waking up to the lies and the broken
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Speaker 1: promises of the Albanese government. People are realizing that life
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Speaker 1: is not easier under alban easy. They are feeling the
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Speaker 1: pain in their hip pockets and they are seeing a
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Speaker 1: lack of any moves to address it. They are seeing
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Speaker 1: the broken promise of reduced power bills by two hundred
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Speaker 1: and seventy five dollars. They're seeing the broken promise of
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Speaker 1: we won't tax your superannuation, and they don't see any
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Speaker 1: solutions coming from the Labor government. And thankfully they are
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Speaker 1: looking towards the Coalition as a very credible alternative government.
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Speaker 3: Well, it is good news in Newsballs and in Queensland too,
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Speaker 3: where they poll very well. The Coalition has lost significant
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Speaker 3: ground in Western Australia, which did become the key to
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Speaker 3: Labour's twenty two twenty twenty two election victory. It also,
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Speaker 3: while it also enjoys a majority support among male voters
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Speaker 3: for the first time, the female vote still favors Labor.
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Speaker 4: How much of a problem.
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Speaker 3: Do you think WA and the female vote will be
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Speaker 3: for the coalition and how do they address us.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the News poll, which is just one poll,
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Speaker 1: and we always say the only poll that matters is
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Speaker 1: polling day. But the fact of the matter is we
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Speaker 1: still have work to do. We have to convince all Australians,
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Speaker 1: regardless of what state they live in, that we are
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Speaker 1: the government for their future, that we have the solutions
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Speaker 1: that will give them a positive and beneficial future. That
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Speaker 1: we will address productivity, we will address power prices, will
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Speaker 1: address the cost of living. We have to reassure voters
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Speaker 1: about that. We have to reassure, particularly the female voters,
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Speaker 1: that our nuclear positive future that we're talking about will
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Speaker 1: be good for them. It will provide their children with
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Speaker 1: decades and generations of job prospects into the future while
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Speaker 1: providing a reliable, carbon neutral energy source in a balanced
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Speaker 1: energy mix. We are not saying zero renewables. We are
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Speaker 1: saying absolutely we need renewables, we need gas, we need nuclear,
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Speaker 1: we need a common sense approach and we absolutely need
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Speaker 1: to continue talking to all astraints about that. We can't
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Speaker 1: take a look at this one pole and think we've
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Speaker 1: done the job there's a big task ahead of us,
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Speaker 1: and we are up for that challenge.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you brought up nuclear and I do
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Speaker 3: want to come back to that in a minute, because
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Speaker 3: there was some other polling that I referenced before which
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Speaker 3: came out over the weekend as well. On that that
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Speaker 3: was very interesting. But first I want to ask you
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Speaker 3: about a story that's broken today. The Northern Territory Police
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Speaker 3: Commissioner has announced another curfew and Alice Springs for the
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Speaker 3: next three nights due to a recent spike and violent incidence.
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Speaker 3: How will the curfew affect residents of Alice Springs, both
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Speaker 3: adults and children.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, firstly, it's an absolute tragedy that it
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Speaker 1: has come to this again in Alice Springs. The curfew,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's welcome within Alice Springs. It's a short term,
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Speaker 1: temporary solution. It's a band aid, so hopefully it stems
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Speaker 1: the bleeding. But what we need to see is we
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Speaker 1: need to see policies that will actually address the issues
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Speaker 1: that lead to this youth violence, the domestic violence that
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Speaker 1: is prevalent in those communities, the reliance and dependence on welfare,
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Speaker 1: and some of the community dysfunction. We need to actually
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Speaker 1: see positive policies about that. We've seen the principle of
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Speaker 1: the Yuporhinu School out and about again today asking again
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Speaker 1: for support for that school to at least have the
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Speaker 1: capacity to build some boarding facilities so that the children
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Speaker 1: who want to go to school can go and have
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Speaker 1: somewhere safe to rest their heads at night and get
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Speaker 1: the education that will hopefully lift them and their communities
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Speaker 1: out of this vicious.
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Speaker 4: Cycle that we're seeing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it has been so sad and depressing to see
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Speaker 3: some of the scenes that have come out of the
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Speaker 3: Northern Territory and especially across Alice Springston.
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Speaker 4: We'll be keeping a.
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Speaker 3: Close eye on that curfew on Sky News. Let's go
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Speaker 3: back to nuclear now, that pole that I mentioned that
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Speaker 3: shows an uptick in support for nuclear energy and specifically
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Speaker 3: in teal seats, there's only twenty three percent of voters
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Speaker 3: in Teal, Greens and independent seats oppose it. Now, parent,
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Speaker 3: what do you make of these numbers? Is encouraging given
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Speaker 3: for the coalition, given Peter Duttons taking this nuclear policy
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Speaker 3: to the next election, that more people maybe than expected
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Speaker 3: are willing to accept the idea of it.
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Speaker 1: Well, absolutely and it actually comes as no surprise to
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Speaker 1: me when you look around the world at what is
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Speaker 1: happening on the support for nuclear power around the world.
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Speaker 1: We've had a newly elected Labor government in the UK
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Speaker 1: that have again committed to increase nuclear power generation. We
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Speaker 1: saw twenty two nations at the COP twenty eight meeting
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Speaker 1: in Jubai last year sign a pledged to triple nuclear
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Speaker 1: power generation. It is known technology, it is clean technology,
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Speaker 1: it is zero missions technology.
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Speaker 4: And when we know that the Greens and.
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Speaker 1: Teals seats the areas where the Greens and Teals hold
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Speaker 1: their seats in those electorates, we know that a lot
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Speaker 1: of those people are very concerned about ensuring we meet
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Speaker 1: a carbon.
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Speaker 4: Neutral future, but they also want to be able.
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Speaker 1: To turn their lights on. They're practical people, and I
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Speaker 1: think that they are now as we get closer to
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Speaker 1: the time, they're actually looking at what's out there and
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Speaker 1: they're not seeing a clear linear pathway from the Labor
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Speaker 1: Government's all eggs in one basket industrial scale, intermittent wind
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Speaker 1: and solar only policy. And our policy is not nuclear only.
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Speaker 1: Our policy is a balanced mix right across the board
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Speaker 1: of all technologies and future technologies that might come forward,
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Speaker 1: but we know nuclear works and I don't understand why
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Speaker 1: labor won't get on board.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well, parent David, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 3: We will have more on that nuclear issue a little
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Speaker 3: bit later in the program when we've got an energy
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Speaker 3: expert in. But joining us now is the co chair
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Speaker 3: of the Executive Council of Usustralian Jury, Alex Fritchen. Alex,
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Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 8: Thank you. Caln Well.
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Speaker 3: I spoke at the top of the show about Green's
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Speaker 3: deputy leader Marine Ferruki and her refusal to say whether
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Speaker 3: she thought her masks should be dismantled. Let's play some
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Speaker 3: of that interview again.
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Speaker 4: Her must need to be dismantled.
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Speaker 7: Listen to The situation with her mass is that it
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Speaker 7: has nothing. I can't keep repeating it again and again.
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Speaker 7: It has nothing to do with Palestinian statehood and Balastinian self.
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Speaker 4: Now, the question was we had that.
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Speaker 7: The Palestinians need to decide where they want to go
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Speaker 7: with their own region.
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Speaker 4: Alex.
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Speaker 3: She refused five times to answer a basic question about
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Speaker 3: whether she thought her Mass, a terrorist organization should be dismantled.
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Speaker 4: What's your reaction.
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Speaker 8: You know, Caroline, we've seen so much in the past
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Speaker 8: nine months, so many outrageous statements and protests, and the
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Speaker 8: actions of the Greens in particular has shocked this But
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Speaker 8: that really is one of the most outrageous interviews that
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Speaker 8: I've seen over this period. I mean, to have an
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Speaker 8: elected leader in our country, in a democracy, not be
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Speaker 8: able to condemn Hamas, not be able to call for
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Speaker 8: the end of Hummas. And you know, it's perfectly reasonable
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Speaker 8: to call for Palestine in statehood or a two state solution,
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Speaker 8: or whatever policy she wants to advocate, but to in
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Speaker 8: the same breadth be unable to condemn Hamas and call
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Speaker 8: for their dismantlement, to not be able to say clearly
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Speaker 8: that they have no future in Gaza after what they've done,
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Speaker 8: after what they've done in plain sight, which is the
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Speaker 8: murder of twelve hundred people. This is an organization that
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Speaker 8: still holds one hundred and fifty hostages right now as
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Speaker 8: we speak, in violation of humanity and basic international law.
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Speaker 8: And this is the deputy leader of a party supposedly
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Speaker 8: founded in human rights and peace and justice and pacifism,
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Speaker 8: and she can't speak frankly about a terrorist organization it's extraordinary,
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Speaker 8: and this is what we've had from the Greens for
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Speaker 8: nine months. One hand, tried to fool the electorate into
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Speaker 8: believing that they're a legitimate moderate political actor in order
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Speaker 8: to try to peel off votes from Labour's left wing.
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Speaker 8: But at the same time they've dog whistled and signaled
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Speaker 8: to the most extreme, violent elements in our society.
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Speaker 3: It's so concerning for a party that was supposed to
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Speaker 3: be an environmental party to wait until these sorts of
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Speaker 3: foreign affairs and to side with such extreme points of view.
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Speaker 4: But look, Senator Faruki's.
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Speaker 3: Comments come after former Labour Senator Fatim mc payman quit
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Speaker 3: the party after vowing to continue crossing the floor in
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Speaker 3: support of Palestinian statehood, and there's speculations she may form
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Speaker 3: a new Muslim political party, possibly teaming up with a
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Speaker 3: Muslim vote movement.
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Speaker 4: That's targeting labor seats.
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Speaker 3: Given alex what we saw in the UK election with
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Speaker 3: the success of for Muslim Independence and the very anti
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Speaker 3: Israel Jeremy Corbyn, what do you think that could possibly
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Speaker 3: mean for Australia.
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Speaker 4: Could a Muslim.
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Speaker 3: Party pose a real threat here like they do in
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Speaker 3: the UK?
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Speaker 8: Well in the recent UK election. We saw that in
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Speaker 8: seats with high Muslim communities you had a great success
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Speaker 8: for these independent candidates. But what happened also was that
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Speaker 8: the Labor candidates in these seats adopted extremely proposed in policies,
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Speaker 8: and yet voters to some extent still pursue these independents.
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Speaker 8: So the policies of Labor weren't extreme and weren't proposted
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Speaker 8: in enough. So there's a very real risk that here
22:31
Speaker 8: as well, that these sorts of independence will pull the
22:35
Speaker 8: Labor Party further and further to the left. And really,
22:38
Speaker 8: I say left, but there's nothing left wing about what
22:41
Speaker 8: a lot of these people believe in. You know, we're
22:43
Speaker 8: talking about support in many regards for a caliphate over
22:46
Speaker 8: a nation state, support for jihadism and a terrorist organization,
22:50
Speaker 8: which is in violation of basic liberal democratic, social democratic
22:54
Speaker 8: principles of labor parties stand for. But I think the
22:57
Speaker 8: Labor Party in this country will look at what happened
22:59
Speaker 8: with Labor under Jeremy Corbyn and see that if they
23:02
Speaker 8: move too far to the left on this issue, they
23:04
Speaker 8: effectively become unelectable. And if you look at research over
23:07
Speaker 8: a long period of time that looks at favorability of
23:10
Speaker 8: groups like Hummas and the Palacinan authority in Hesblah and
23:14
Speaker 8: the Iranian regime in Australia, they are as low as
23:17
Speaker 8: it could possibly be. So Labor really runs a risk
23:20
Speaker 8: of its own political ruin if it has seemed to
23:24
Speaker 8: be in any way aligned with those extreme political actors.
23:27
Speaker 8: But leaving aside political expediency, there's a matter of principle
23:30
Speaker 8: as well, and the electorate will punish those who are
23:34
Speaker 8: seen to be chasing votes and compromising their principles. And
23:37
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, standing with Israel is right,
23:40
Speaker 8: even if it doesn't always win votes, but it's aligning
23:43
Speaker 8: with a liberal democratic ally a Western force that is
23:46
Speaker 8: fighting against terrorism, a country that provides enormous support to
23:51
Speaker 8: Australia in terms of counter terrorism, in terms of military
23:55
Speaker 8: support in certain cases, in terms of intel that saves
23:58
Speaker 8: austraine lives. So if Labor chooses to sell itself out
24:03
Speaker 8: and pursue these votes, I think they'll be punished for
24:05
Speaker 8: it allectually at the end of the day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But so how often do we see a politician
24:11
Speaker 3: make the morally right decision. Often it's the politically popular one. Unfortunately,
24:17
Speaker 3: alex I can't let you go without asking you about
24:20
Speaker 3: the latest move by a couple of universities. Students involved
24:24
Speaker 3: in pro Palestine encampments at two Melbourne universities have avoided
24:29
Speaker 3: expulsion walking away with mere warnings. Almost a dozen students
24:33
Speaker 3: from Monash and Latrobe walked away with just a slap
24:36
Speaker 3: on the wrist, despite occupying main thoroughfares and leaving Jewish
24:41
Speaker 3: community members with fears for their safety. Activists celebrated the punishment,
24:47
Speaker 3: if you could call it that, online, as a win,
24:49
Speaker 3: gloating in the case of Monash that administrators didn't have
24:52
Speaker 3: the confidence to take on political activism when it came
24:56
Speaker 3: to the Palestine issue.
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Speaker 4: You'd agree with that, I expect, alex well.
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Speaker 8: Look, I mean, their reaction says it all. They view
25:05
Speaker 8: this as a win, and to hand a win to
25:08
Speaker 8: extremists is fundamentally dangerous. It's dangerous to our communities and
25:13
Speaker 8: to our democracy. And we've seen this all the way through,
25:16
Speaker 8: this pitiful, this spineless attitude towards those who break the law,
25:21
Speaker 8: towards those who make life unbearable for peace loving members
25:24
Speaker 8: of our society. And at the end of the day,
25:26
Speaker 8: when you're dealing with thugs, and extremists. They will go
25:28
Speaker 8: as far as they're allowed to go, and the thing
25:31
Speaker 8: that will stop them is consequences. And if they're treated
25:34
Speaker 8: in the way that they're treated here, with no sanction
25:37
Speaker 8: taken against them, no penalty, then you will see the
25:39
Speaker 8: sorts of things that we're seeing in our society at
25:41
Speaker 8: the moment. Attacks on the electorate, offices of members of parliament,
25:45
Speaker 8: a foreign attacks on our parliament, on the set of
25:47
Speaker 8: our democracy. These things will escalate unless there are consequences.
25:51
Speaker 8: And at the moment we're seeing an absence of leadership
25:53
Speaker 8: and this sort of extremism is therefore allowed to thrive.
25:56
Speaker 4: You're so right, Alex.
25:57
Speaker 3: I say the same thing all the time at home,
26:00
Speaker 3: So consequences when my children are behaving badly, they're never
26:03
Speaker 3: going to learn and things won't change.
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Speaker 4: Look, Alex, thank you so much for your time tonight.
26:07
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
26:07
Speaker 3: Alex Ripchen from the Executive Council of Australian Jewelry. There
26:11
Speaker 3: coming up after the break, Queensland Opposition leader David chris
26:15
Speaker 3: A fully pledges tougher sentences to stamp out youth crime.
26:19
Speaker 3: Plus does Joe Biden have Parkinson's We'll discuss after the
26:24
Speaker 3: break well, welcome back to the program. Fresh polls spell
26:33
Speaker 3: bad news for the Albanese government as the coalition edges
26:36
Speaker 3: ahead of Labor in the key election battleground state of
26:40
Speaker 3: New South Wales, with the two point lead at fifty
26:43
Speaker 3: one percent while Labor trails at forty nine percent for
26:46
Speaker 3: the first time since taking office. Let's bring in my
26:49
Speaker 3: panel now, GT Communications founder Jemma Tllo, Caroline and Sky
26:55
Speaker 3: News host Caroline de Russou. Welcome to you, Caro as well.
27:00
Speaker 3: Thank you for being on the panel time now.
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Speaker 4: Great to be here. Wouldn't miss it, wouldn't miss it.
27:04
Speaker 4: Thank you now. Calin.
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Speaker 3: Was this expected, this polling result given the growing list
27:11
Speaker 3: of unfulfilled election promises from the PM.
27:17
Speaker 4: I think so and this year.
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Speaker 10: This year is an aggregate poll and we have definitely
27:21
Speaker 10: seen a decline in the popularity and just the polls
27:26
Speaker 10: more generally in relation to Labor since that real high
27:28
Speaker 10: point for them back in September twenty two. They managed
27:32
Speaker 10: to arrest that fall shortly before the Dunky by election
27:36
Speaker 10: when they backflipped on the Stage three tax cuts, but
27:39
Speaker 10: we have seen that decline commence again afterwards, and the
27:44
Speaker 10: fact of the matter is they really don't have much
27:46
Speaker 10: to show for the time that they have been in government.
27:50
Speaker 4: So I think you're quite right.
27:52
Speaker 10: There's things that they promised to do which they haven't done,
27:55
Speaker 10: and then some of the things which they have done
27:58
Speaker 10: people aren't particularly with. And something that people are not
28:01
Speaker 10: particularly happy with obviously is the positions that they have
28:05
Speaker 10: taken on immigration over here in Western Australia. Obviously, live
28:09
Speaker 10: sheep export and just this constant grinding weakness of the
28:15
Speaker 10: Albanesi Labor government. You obviously know very well in what
28:21
Speaker 10: you've had and what you've commentated on in relation to
28:23
Speaker 10: the Israel Gaza situation.
28:26
Speaker 4: You just there is so much f sitting going on here.
28:30
Speaker 10: Australians are struggling and everyone's getting over it very quickly.
28:34
Speaker 3: Well, let's move on now to Queensland, where the polling
28:39
Speaker 3: show the coalition was doing quite well as well.
28:42
Speaker 4: Still on the L and P and.
28:44
Speaker 3: Opposition leader David chrisifully there is vowing to stamp out
28:47
Speaker 3: youth crime by implementing tougher sentences to deter young krims
28:52
Speaker 3: should he be elected, No holds barred. He took aim
28:56
Speaker 3: at the third term Labor government led by Stephen.
28:58
Speaker 2: Wiles, respectfully, that's the approach that the government's gone down
29:03
Speaker 2: for the last decade and Queensland's a living example of
29:05
Speaker 2: what happens when you water down laws. Two hundred and
29:09
Speaker 2: ninety thousand victims in Queensland, more than anywhere else in
29:12
Speaker 2: the country, more than Victoria, more than New South Wales,
29:16
Speaker 2: despite our smaller population, and what's happening at the moment
29:20
Speaker 2: as a result of the watered down laws, we've got
29:23
Speaker 2: a generation of untouchables.
29:26
Speaker 3: Now, this announcement John McCain, after that polling we've done,
29:30
Speaker 3: this is bound to make I would say the Liberals
29:33
Speaker 3: are the idea of a Liberals government in Queensland even
29:36
Speaker 3: more popular because yeah, I mean Labour's already on the
29:39
Speaker 3: nose there.
29:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, you crime shock.
29:41
Speaker 9: I love the phrase the generation of untouchables. It is
29:44
Speaker 9: an absolutely perfect, accurate, succinct assessment of a generation that
29:50
Speaker 9: are not responsible for anything. They are absolved of everything,
29:54
Speaker 9: and they don't there's no consequences. There's not a lesson
29:57
Speaker 9: of if you do this then then this will be
29:59
Speaker 9: the consequence, and that is such a critical life lesson.
30:03
Speaker 9: Now everybody understands the importance of where possible keeping young
30:08
Speaker 9: people out of the justice system, keeping them particularly out
30:11
Speaker 9: of the jail system and incarceration. However, it's when the
30:16
Speaker 9: balance gets out of whack where every single offender, particularly
30:19
Speaker 9: those at the more serious end of the spectrum, they
30:23
Speaker 9: get a cuddle and they get told that it's not
30:25
Speaker 9: their fault because of feelings and reasons. There's no this
30:29
Speaker 9: is the responsibility. I mean, the people who brought these
30:32
Speaker 9: laws in and the people who brought this culture in
30:35
Speaker 9: are the same people who would like to lower the
30:38
Speaker 9: voting age.
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Speaker 4: So on the one hand, they say, look, they're not
30:40
Speaker 4: old enough and.
30:41
Speaker 9: Mature enough to be responsible for the crimes they're committing,
30:44
Speaker 9: but let's let them vote. I mean, it's absolutely insane.
30:47
Speaker 9: I think this is brave of Chris A.
30:48
Speaker 4: Fuley. I think it speaks to where people are at.
30:51
Speaker 9: Everybody has the right to go about their business without
30:54
Speaker 9: the threat of being accosted by violent, young criminals who
30:58
Speaker 9: know full well they are not going to copy any punishment.
31:01
Speaker 3: There's such a contradiction that you nail that they're mature
31:04
Speaker 3: enough to vote, but they're not mature enough when they
31:07
Speaker 3: commit an adult there is adult defense.
31:09
Speaker 4: I've been treated like.
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Speaker 9: The disgusting thing that underpins that kind of thinking, in
31:13
Speaker 9: that approach to these young people, that actually doesn't care
31:16
Speaker 9: about them. It doesn't care about their long term emotional maturity.
31:19
Speaker 9: It doesn't care about forming them as wonderful, you know, healthy,
31:24
Speaker 9: contributing members of society. It sees them as votes, It
31:27
Speaker 9: sees them as a vehicle towards power, and I think
31:29
Speaker 9: that's disgusting.
31:30
Speaker 4: You know.
31:31
Speaker 3: Look, speaking of thugs, Caroline, let's turn to France now,
31:35
Speaker 3: where hung parliament is more likely. After an alliance of
31:39
Speaker 3: left wing parties, the New Popular Front is on track
31:42
Speaker 3: to claim victory in a snap parliamentary election that the
31:45
Speaker 3: French President, Emmanuel mccron called that I'm not calling the
31:49
Speaker 3: politicians or the potential politicians thugs, but some of the
31:54
Speaker 3: scenes that we've seen, Caroline, out of these protests on
31:59
Speaker 3: Parisian It's over this.
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Speaker 4: Results have been alarming.
32:04
Speaker 3: There's one video that has been posted online in the
32:07
Speaker 3: past few hours that appears to show left wing demonstrators
32:11
Speaker 3: attacking the police.
32:13
Speaker 4: In France, I mean, in Paris.
32:15
Speaker 3: This is where the Olympics is going to be held
32:17
Speaker 3: in a few weeks.
32:18
Speaker 4: I mean, this is quite shocking.
32:23
Speaker 10: And it looks like they've won, Like, aren't you meant
32:26
Speaker 10: to protest when you've lost? How would quite understand? Can
32:31
Speaker 10: you imagine if they'd lost, the whole place would be
32:33
Speaker 10: up in smoke? Very interesting the result there, and given
32:38
Speaker 10: the result of last weekend, I think quite a few
32:42
Speaker 10: people have been a bit surprised.
32:43
Speaker 4: What I will say of the left.
32:44
Speaker 10: Is they understand how to get themselves into power. So
32:48
Speaker 10: I understand there was a lot of rationalizing of candidates
32:51
Speaker 10: and that sort of thing to make sure to be
32:52
Speaker 10: able to bolster the left side of.
32:54
Speaker 4: The vote, not split that vote.
32:56
Speaker 10: So you know, top marks for getting organized very very quickly,
33:00
Speaker 10: and that there is a lesson obviously to the right.
33:03
Speaker 10: But what these protests, these violent protests and other violent
33:07
Speaker 10: protests are an indicator of is just quite simply society
33:11
Speaker 10: is in decline because civilized people don't behave this way people.
33:16
Speaker 10: And off the back of what Gemma just had to say,
33:18
Speaker 10: you know people who think they're untouchable and that there
33:21
Speaker 10: are no responsibility, you know, for their actions, and whatever
33:25
Speaker 10: they want is the only thing that they consider, and
33:28
Speaker 10: obviously not the rights of the people around them.
33:33
Speaker 4: This is how you see it play out in a.
33:36
Speaker 10: I suppose, almost like the professional leagues, right, unfortunately, but
33:42
Speaker 10: it is it is, It is society. It is society
33:45
Speaker 10: in decline. We vote in liberal democracies. Sometimes you win,
33:51
Speaker 10: sometimes you lose. If you lose, you cop it on
33:54
Speaker 10: the chin. You do not behave like this.
33:56
Speaker 3: But yeah, as you said, they're poised to win the
33:59
Speaker 3: far left coalition, taking everyone by surprise. I just imagine,
34:03
Speaker 3: imagine if they'd actually lost like they expected.
34:07
Speaker 4: Horrific.
34:08
Speaker 3: Let's move on now to the US, where Democrats are
34:11
Speaker 3: in damage control after Joe Biden's shocking debate performance followed
34:16
Speaker 3: by another shocking interview performance that was meant to quell
34:20
Speaker 3: the fears over the debate performance.
34:23
Speaker 4: There are now reports that.
34:24
Speaker 3: A top Parkinson's expert has met with the President's personal
34:29
Speaker 3: doctors at the White House earlier this year.
34:31
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's getting a bit sad, isn't it. I read
34:34
Speaker 9: those over the weekend and it didn't surprise me. I
34:36
Speaker 9: don't think it just surprises anyone with eyes and those
34:39
Speaker 9: of us who've had experience with elderly relatives. In my case,
34:43
Speaker 9: my late father who had cognitive decline in the last
34:46
Speaker 9: couple of years of his life, and I would say
34:49
Speaker 9: he was significantly more cognitive than mister Biden than President Biden.
34:54
Speaker 9: But still, you know, he wasn't able to function alone.
34:58
Speaker 9: There was a high level of care required for him,
35:00
Speaker 9: and he wasn't running Australia, and he didn't have the
35:03
Speaker 9: code to the nukes. You know, this was just my dad,
35:06
Speaker 9: And I think this is terribly sad at a human level.
35:09
Speaker 9: It's the epitome of absolute power corrupts absolutely because the
35:14
Speaker 9: fact that, however in President Biden's world, sees fit to
35:19
Speaker 9: continue to hang him out like this solely to hang
35:22
Speaker 9: on to power is just an absolute dereliction of any
35:26
Speaker 9: kind of moral compass in the soul.
35:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, I discussed you.
35:30
Speaker 3: I've got a close family member who suffers from Parkinson's
35:32
Speaker 3: and dementia. The whole thing makes me feel quite sad.
35:35
Speaker 3: But the people around him just continue to enable him. Well,
35:38
Speaker 3: I mean, increasingly Democrats are calling for him to step down,
35:41
Speaker 3: but he won't. Caroline Russo demoton Uni. That's all the
35:44
Speaker 3: time we have for this panel. Thank you both so much.
35:47
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, a leading energy expert raises
35:51
Speaker 3: skepticism over the CSIRO energy modeling Chris Bowen is using
35:56
Speaker 3: to push renewables projects plus new developments in Channel seven's
36:01
Speaker 3: Robert Evardia Saga.
36:07
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the program.
36:09
Speaker 3: Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen is under fresh
36:13
Speaker 3: scrutiny over the modeling used to justify his extreme renewables push.
36:18
Speaker 3: To unpack this and more, the Center for Independent Studies
36:22
Speaker 3: Director of Energy Research, Aiden Morrison joins me. Now, Aiden,
36:26
Speaker 3: thanks for your time. You've pointed out today that mister
36:29
Speaker 3: Bowen's modeling was based on a mix of onshore wind
36:33
Speaker 3: and grid scale solar, despite the government's pushing a number
36:37
Speaker 3: of offshore projects. Can you explain why this is so misleading
36:42
Speaker 3: when it comes to the modeling.
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Speaker 6: Yes, Indeed, the CSIRO's model to integrate the cost of
36:50
Speaker 6: renewables was based on an idealized mix. It was the
36:53
Speaker 6: best kind of mix of energy that the model could
36:56
Speaker 6: spit out to say what the lowest cost version of
36:58
Speaker 6: that system would be. But in reality it's not the
37:01
Speaker 6: policy of the Commonwealth government or into the state governments
37:04
Speaker 6: to build the idealized mix. They're building all sorts of
37:07
Speaker 6: other projects to contribute to this which aren't optimized and
37:11
Speaker 6: aren't ideal for the cheapest version and there's no bigger
37:15
Speaker 6: example of this than the inclusion of offshore wind. Offshore
37:19
Speaker 6: wind is something like three times as expensive as onshore wind,
37:22
Speaker 6: and it was actually explicitly rejected from being included in
37:25
Speaker 6: the mix for renewable energy by the CSIRO report on
37:29
Speaker 6: the basis that it's too expensive. But despite this, the
37:32
Speaker 6: Victorian government has a target to include about nine gigawatts
37:35
Speaker 6: of offshore wind capacity, which is an enormous amount, and
37:39
Speaker 6: the federal government also seems keen to continue approving offshore
37:42
Speaker 6: wind renewable energy zones. So we're not building the cheapest
37:46
Speaker 6: version of the system, which is what CSIRO has modeled.
37:50
Speaker 3: Well, it all seems a bit rich coming from a
37:52
Speaker 3: government that's attacked Peter Dutton and the coalition for not
37:55
Speaker 3: providing the detail on the cost of his nuclear plan
37:59
Speaker 3: and nuclear just generally. In fact, the expensiveness of this
38:03
Speaker 3: energy form in terms of nuclear has been a common
38:06
Speaker 3: theme in the attacks from labor. But you know, according
38:11
Speaker 3: to your arguments aiden that the cost of nuclear do
38:15
Speaker 3: stack up.
38:15
Speaker 6: Why is that that's right? Because there's a few assumptions
38:21
Speaker 6: that are left in gen cost which aren't particularly kind
38:24
Speaker 6: or really realistic to nuclear. In particular, nuclear energy is
38:27
Speaker 6: able to provide very high capacity factor, which means it's
38:30
Speaker 6: available all the time. You just use it ninety percent
38:33
Speaker 6: perhaps of the time. The CSIRO's models assume we'll use
38:37
Speaker 6: it as little as fifty three percent of the time
38:40
Speaker 6: at the low end of their band and so there's
38:42
Speaker 6: no real realistic case that you would want to build
38:45
Speaker 6: a very high capital cost initial investment in nuclear and
38:48
Speaker 6: then never use it. But there's no reason we'd have to.
38:51
Speaker 6: It is available for a lot of the time, so
38:54
Speaker 6: and there's still quite a lot of baseload demand in
38:56
Speaker 6: our systems, So that's another bias that is used to
38:59
Speaker 6: stack up against nuclear. We can use it a lot
39:02
Speaker 6: more than what the CSIRO assumes. And also the lifetime
39:06
Speaker 6: of nuclear power plants they last from sixty to eighty years,
39:09
Speaker 6: sometimes potentially even longer, but in the csro's gen costs,
39:13
Speaker 6: there's no attempt to account for them living any longer
39:16
Speaker 6: than thirty years, which is the same time as a
39:18
Speaker 6: solar panel basically, so they've been sort of cut nuclear
39:21
Speaker 6: off at the knees, so to speak, in terms of
39:23
Speaker 6: the lifetime that these assets might have, which means that overall,
39:26
Speaker 6: although expensive initially to build, they can provide very low
39:30
Speaker 6: cost energy in the longer term.
39:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean that's the argument, isn't it that
39:35
Speaker 3: you know, they say it'll take ten years to build,
39:38
Speaker 3: that the cost is going to be exorbitant. But in
39:41
Speaker 3: the long run, do you think nuclear is the answer
39:44
Speaker 3: to bring down power bills and being a source of
39:48
Speaker 3: reliable energy security for the country.
39:54
Speaker 6: Yes, I think that committing to include nuclear in the
39:57
Speaker 6: mix is going to immediately The short term thing it'll
40:01
Speaker 6: do is it'll stop power bills potentially going up, because
40:04
Speaker 6: the things that we're doing at the moment to push
40:06
Speaker 6: more renewables in the system are actually pushing power bills
40:09
Speaker 6: even higher. That's the first thing to realize is that,
40:13
Speaker 6: for example, the very large transmission into connectors from New
40:17
Speaker 6: South Wales to Victoria, from New South Wales to Queensland,
40:20
Speaker 6: these types of assets are yet to hit our bills,
40:23
Speaker 6: the very largest of them. But we're about to commit
40:25
Speaker 6: to these mega projects which we'll be stuck with on
40:27
Speaker 6: our bills really for the long term. So if we
40:30
Speaker 6: find a technology source that can use existing sites and
40:33
Speaker 6: existing locations without these massive supportive infrastructure projects to accommodate them,
40:38
Speaker 6: we'll be able to have much we'll stop pushing our
40:41
Speaker 6: power prices up, which is the first thing we have
40:43
Speaker 6: to do. Just stop digging the whole we're currently digging,
40:47
Speaker 6: and then after that in the longer term, yes, I
40:49
Speaker 6: do think that nuclear power will be much cheaper than
40:51
Speaker 6: alternative that's trying to do everything on weather dependent energy sources.
40:57
Speaker 3: Well, that will be music to many people's is Aiden Morrison.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your insights tonight. Well, there's
41:04
Speaker 3: a lot happening in the media world at the moment
41:06
Speaker 3: and joining us to discuss as media writer for The
41:09
Speaker 3: Australian Sophie Ellsworth. Sophie, thank you for joining me tonight.
41:13
Speaker 3: Last month, it was revealed that Channel seven acts one
41:16
Speaker 3: of its most senior and highest paid journalists, Robert Ovardier,
41:20
Speaker 3: over allegations have inappropriate conduct that allegedly involved images that
41:24
Speaker 3: were exchanged with a female colleague. Now, this shock move
41:28
Speaker 3: came after the ABC four Corners program began asking questions
41:33
Speaker 3: for an investigation into allegations of toxic culture at seven
41:37
Speaker 3: and nine. Sophie, you've reported fresh developments in this saga today.
41:41
Speaker 11: What's the latest, so Caroline, Robert o'vardier who's one of
41:48
Speaker 11: seven's most senior journalists in Sydney, has been stood down
41:53
Speaker 11: by the network. He's been sacked effectively. He's now fighting
41:58
Speaker 11: back and he has lodged a general protections application in
42:01
Speaker 11: the Fair Work Commission. He's seeking a compensation. He's also
42:08
Speaker 11: seeking reinstatement of his job. So this is now the
42:11
Speaker 11: first step in the legal process with Robert o'vardier taking
42:16
Speaker 11: action against the seven network over his acting and also
42:20
Speaker 11: the new news director Anthony de Segli because he believes
42:24
Speaker 11: he was unfairly dismissed. So he's hired our high profile lawyer,
42:28
Speaker 11: John Laxon, and the legal action is now a fush well.
42:33
Speaker 3: That one will be interesting to watch, and we should
42:35
Speaker 3: say that he does say he plans to defend himself
42:38
Speaker 3: against and he claims the wrongdoing and no formal complaints
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Speaker 3: have been lodged about those allegations that you've been reporting about.
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Speaker 3: Let's move on now to more news at seven. The
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Speaker 3: new news director Anthony de Segli has ruffled a few
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Speaker 3: feathers with some let's say, interesting ideas for the six
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Speaker 3: pm nightly bulletin Sophie. First, there was the appointment of
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Speaker 3: a former ABC comedian Mark Humphries to inject a bit
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Speaker 3: of humor into the nightly bulletin. Now there's a rumor
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Speaker 3: he's looking for an astrologist.
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Speaker 4: What's the go Do you think there's something to that?
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Speaker 11: Well, that's what word has it that they're floating the
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Speaker 11: idea of introducing an astrologist into the news bulletin. They
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Speaker 11: have appointed Mark Humphrey's the comedian who starts this Friday.
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Speaker 11: He'll be doing a three minute segment at the end
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Speaker 11: of Friday's bulletin to inject a bit of comedy into
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Speaker 11: the news bulletin. So this is definitely new moves to
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Speaker 11: have a comedian and also a potentially an astrologist as
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Speaker 11: part of the six pm primetime news. But seven are
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Speaker 11: trying to shake things up, Caroline, because they are behind
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Speaker 11: in the ratings in the key markets, including Sydney and Melbourne.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, it'll be interesting to see if all this
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Speaker 3: is enough to shake things up. And sometimes you've got
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Speaker 3: to say that you don't need a comedy median in
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Speaker 3: the news. Sometimes the news itself brings an up comic
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Speaker 3: relief and we all saw a bit of that with
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden's disastrous scaff last week where he declared himself
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Speaker 3: to be a black woman on radio, let's refresh.
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Speaker 1: I am proud of these as I said, the first
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Speaker 1: vice president, first black woman with the black president.
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Speaker 3: Now, the host of that Philadelphia radio station, Andrea law
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Speaker 3: Ful Sanders, has revealed the White House actually gave her
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Speaker 3: the list of questions to ask Biden ahead of the interview.
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Speaker 4: Here's what she had to say.
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Speaker 9: The questions were sent to me for approval.
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Speaker 5: I approved to them.
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Speaker 4: Okay, So the White House sent the questions to you
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Speaker 4: ahead of the interview. Yes, okay.
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Speaker 1: I got several questions, eight of them and the four
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Speaker 1: there were children were the ones that I approved.
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Speaker 3: So the White House, Sophie curated the questions, not something
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Speaker 3: you normally do as a news journalist. It has to
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Speaker 3: be says and your questions and advance. But all the same,
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Speaker 3: they've curated the questions for Joe Biden and he still
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Speaker 3: couldn't answer them properly.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's right, Caroline.
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Speaker 11: It was another dog's breakfast of his interview where he
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Speaker 11: was saying ridiculous things like he was a black president.
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Speaker 11: He was making some weird claims that didn't really sound coherent.
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Speaker 11: But Interestingly, the radio host has now been sacked by
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Speaker 11: that network because she went off on a tangent and
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Speaker 11: apparently the word is that she approved this interview, did
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Speaker 11: it herself, what was pre recorded didn't get consent from
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Speaker 11: the radio station. But aside from all that drama, this
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Speaker 11: is another really bad turn of events for Joe Biden
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Speaker 11: where he's just not coherent, Caroline. And finally much of
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Speaker 11: the media, particularly in America, is coming to their senses
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Speaker 11: and realizing perhaps he's not fit for office.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, it was remarkable, and it sounds like the
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Speaker 3: wrong person got sacked there. The person who should be
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Speaker 3: sacked after all, this is quite probably what many Democrats
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Speaker 3: would argue is Joe Biden himself, because we saw that
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Speaker 3: interview that he did with the ABC in which was
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Speaker 3: supposed to quell people's fears about him not being in
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Speaker 3: the right state of mind to continue serving another term
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Speaker 3: as president.
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Speaker 4: But the interview did the opposite, didn't it, Caroline. Absolutely.
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Speaker 11: He again was blaming it afterwards on he was being traveling,
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Speaker 11: even though he'd been back in the US for a
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Speaker 11: week or two. He was tired, you know, he was off.
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Speaker 11: You know, it was in his day. I mean Seriously,
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Speaker 11: this guy's come up with every trick in the book
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Speaker 11: to try and really cover up what seems to be
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Speaker 11: cognitive decline. And I, like many people, would question, why
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Speaker 11: doesn't he just have a cognitive test to see if
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Speaker 11: he's actually okay, because this appears to be a.
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Speaker 4: President who cannot even string a sentence together.
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Speaker 3: Look a bit of a question on notice, Sophie, perhaps,
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Speaker 3: But I spoke at the beginning of the program about
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Speaker 3: how Malcolm Turnbull had gone on the Projects last night,
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Speaker 3: which he might have seen and described Peter Dutton as
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Speaker 3: a thug. And he also said he made some comments
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Speaker 3: alleging that there was perhaps some racist ideology in his
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Speaker 3: his his discussions about immigration. I mean, the Projects audience
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Speaker 3: obviously lapped it up Turnbul. I guess there's a bit
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Speaker 3: of a popular figure for them.
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Speaker 11: Well, he's catering to their left audience and he's pouring,
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Speaker 11: you know, throwing stones and attacking Peter Dutton and the Coalition.
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Speaker 4: It's what he does best.
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Speaker 11: He's very bitter and twisted since he lost his Prime ministership.
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Speaker 11: He's never gotten over at Caroline and he's got a
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Speaker 11: big fat dose of sour grapes and it does not
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Speaker 11: make him look good. It makes him look very bitter
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Speaker 11: and angry.
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Speaker 3: Well, I have to agree with you, and I don't
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Speaker 3: know how many podcasters listeners it's going to garner for him,
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Speaker 3: but good luck to him. Sophie Ellsworth, thank you so
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Speaker 3: much for your time tonight, and thank you at home
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Speaker 3: for your company after the break.
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Speaker 4: James McPherson filling in for Peter Kretlin. Good night,