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SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST EPISODE _12_ HOST SHANETTE W JOHNSON · DA CREW Podcast

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  Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to the Crew Podcast. I am
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  the Visionary Queen Angela and welcome to season two. I want to thank you
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  for tuning in and for all of your support throughout season one. We're back
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  them devas of the Airways, So thank you for joining us tonight. Share
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  this with someone in your circle. Let's talk. Let's talk about it.
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  What's your host? Sett Johnson? Join me? Hi, good evening and
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  welcome to Let's talk about it. Thank you for joining me this evening.
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  I'm your host and Natt Johnson. On tonight, we have a We're going
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  to continue talking to one about his conviction he was convicted wrongfully convicted in twenty
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  oh nine. As well as I'm gonna I'll be talking to his son,
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  one of his sons, Juan's Junior, who is currently incarcerated. And also
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  I will have a close friend Rodney Long will also get insight on the wrong
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  for conviction that Wine is currently fighting. So let's sit back, get comfortable,
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  grab your favorite drink, and let's talk Wine. Junior and Senior,
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  welcome to Let's talk about it. How you guys are doing this evening?
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  Why Senior switch phones with Wine Jr? I can't hearing. And hello,
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  mister Rodney, Hey, how were you everybody doing? We're doing good over
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  here? Am I talking to one junior? Now? How are you doing
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  today? I'm doing pretty fine. How Chris for having me on this podcast
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  today, You are very welcome. So I just have a couple of questions
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  for you on this evening. I thank you and I appreciate you for allowing
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  me to ask you these questions. It's just going to be basically three questions.
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  I understand that you was four years old when your father was charged with
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  this wrong for the conviction, and I just wanted to know at what age
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  was you when you realize or when you really understood your your father sentenced it,
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  your father's sentence, and how did it how did you feel about it?
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  Well, when I found out about my father sentence, I wasn't you
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  know, I wasn't like a little baby that I was like around like fourteen,
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  you know, I started hearing things from from family members telling me and
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  it's to telling me that, but I never really had it to my mother
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  and so I never you know, and I never really asked him what he
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  was in there for. So you know, I was just you know,
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  when I got a little older, I ended up finding out and it troubled
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  me a lot. You know, I was, you know, going down
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  a wrong scout because I didn't have a father figure in my life. You
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  know, the situation at the circumstances that he was in. So you know,
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  I try to you know, survive. Right, You're saying that my
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  father wasn't there to provide for me and my mother and my sister. So
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  you know I had to you know, keep had to provide for us,
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  you know what I'm saying. Yes, so you would say that that was
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  not having her father there was hard on you. Yes, ma'am, Yes,
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  of course it's hard. Okay. I also have Rodney Rod on the
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  phone with me. Rod is in studio with me and Rod Do you have
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  any questions that you want to ask, ye jor Yeah. First of all,
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  I want to know how he's doing. Can you hear him. I'm
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  pretty good, you know, yeah, I can hear it. I'm doing
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  pretty good. Just hard in my hand time, you know, get through
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  it my time. That's good. That's good. My main thing is to
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  tell him put God first in his life. Uh, That's what's very very
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  important. On what he's going through okay, And so this is gonna be
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  my my last question for you, and then I would like to speak back
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  to why senior of how did you feel when you just when you sing your
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  dad this time? I mean I was, I was, you know,
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  I was emotional. I ain't know what didn't get first, but then you
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  know it was I was happy to see him because you know recent person,
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  you know, getting my head and talk to him on you know, different
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  and basic everything on the jail phones. You know, right, it was
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  it was a it was a it was a tough time and place, but
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  you know, just deal with him and talking to him, you know,
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  it helped me out a little bit more or at least do what at least
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  get do what I'm gonna have to go through, you know. So you
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  know you're in my prayers and I'm praying for you. You're going to get
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  through this. You know, if you need to talk, you know where
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  I'm always here to talk. I'm a good listener, you know. So
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  I really appreciate your time and talking to me, and I look forward to
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  meeting you in person. All right, thank you, suh. Hello one
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  scene Now I have one senior on the phone with me. We're going to
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  continue talking about the wrong for conviction that he's currently fighting. Last time we
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  talked about how when they picked up jury, how the protest was out there.
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  Then we also talked about the the charging documents and the fellow the law
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  statue. So this time I just wanted to give the floor to Rodney a
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  loan and to give a little insight of how it is in Denver with the
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  law. Well, I think the law in Denver is like all these cities,
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  we have no justice. I got an attorney for they day to look
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  over his case. And once that attorney looked up over the case, he's
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  seen that it went through three different judges and it was like he was scared
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  to represent one because of exactly what he might go through with his law firm.
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  So when I asked him about the question that one always asked me how
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  he could be charged with this because the murder was dropped, none of them
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  could ever answer that question. And so that's something. And then I'm very
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  puzzled because no attorney can answer the question that I asked them. Oh God,
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  I can't hear you. What was the questions that you basically had brung
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  up to the attorneys, the one with the murder. They said he was
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  not guilty of the murder. So like what Wan would say, if he's
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  not guilty of the murder, how did they have him on a murder charge?
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  And how do they give him life in prison if he didn't kill nobody?
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  Right? And then also they we talked, we touched a little on
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  the where you had to have an underlying offense to go to get predicate to
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  get the the fella in the murder statue and which in one's case it's not
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  one. It was just mentioned that robbery, that the word robbery was mentioned,
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  and but it's nowhere in the charging documents that that they charged him with
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  an underlying prey to the fence and every time he used their law against them,
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  they should have down. So right now, why do you have would
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  you like to jump in this conversation? Yeah, I got I uh friend
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  of mine that's been helping me with my case law too, that that's real
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  familiar with the law. And I would like to introduce him also where you
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  know, because he has a uh a better understanding because I'm just now running
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  well he is because I met here on that charge and his name is Clint
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  chimp. Uh, but we go over. He teaches me a lot of
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  the things about this law, and it said that I have to be convicted
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  of the predicare sense in order for them to convict me of selling murder.
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  They never did because they never get it. Dreve be a verdict for him
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  for the crime of robbery doing lige. That happened all again was mentioning the
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  word robbery. But that's not appropriate for it's not law. You can't just
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  mention something and and convict me of it. It's illegal because how do I
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  defending you in something that's not there? Right? And then also you know
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  which robbery did they say was which alleged robbery was it? Which? Okay?
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  In trial that what an aggregated robbery happened? Well at the end the
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  trial, when they gave the jew the Julian instructions, they gave them a
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  structure on simple robbery, which, uh, there's two different robberies on the
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  books. But in your charging documents, I read the jury instruction when the
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  jury when a judge mentioned the witness name and not the victim's name, And
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  in your charging documents it doesn't even have the witness name. It has the
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  victims name in it. So was that an oversight or misprint or or or
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  what because you in your okay, I can't hear I can't you hear him?
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  No, I can't hear him. I need him to come. Yeah,
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  okay, it's join. Can you hear me now? Yes, I
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  can hear you, now, go ahead, Okay. It seems that the
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  whole problem with Lawn's conviction is that to establish that he committed artempt to commit
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  CDIC offfense, the prosecution had to prove beyond the reason of gout every element
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  of defense of that offense in his charge. In document they mentioned the word
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  Robert n. Ll stay he committed artemtical commit rockery right and finally murder any
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  other charge. They didn't set out the elements of his crime, uh,
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  so that he could provide a defense against those elements. Uh. They didn't
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  set elements for super robbery until, like the deliberation stayed to the trial,
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  and that's the first time that the elements for robberie well represented when the jury
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  was getting ready to go in deliberation. Now, to establish that he committed
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  or a tent to committee, they had to prove those elements. But those
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  elements can't stand alone and a charge a robbery by itself. They had to
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  be set inside of another charge or else the robbery conviction. The robber charge
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  had to be dismissed, and his case there was never a robbery charge,
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  you know, uh right, And that's what the real you know. And
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  there were no burning forms given for the jury to deliberate on the robert condition.
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  So actually, well the court did was to say that because they gave
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  the very convicted him of thurnity murder, that that was proof that the elements
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  of except for robbery, was proven. But there were no verdict falls presented
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  to the jury to make a decombination of built an innocence on the rockery choice.
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  So in essence, he was charged two times for first degree murder after
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  he had been a critic of murder in the first degree. What they did
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  without proven a predicate offense. They charged him again for first degree murder without
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  proven the only thing that was different between first degree murder and unity murder,
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  which was that he committed or attempt to commit a predical offense. But there's
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  no buts, no predicative offense. He was never charged and he was never
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  given a chance to defend against the leg robbery as as they say, and
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  then they have a they have the witness and the jury verdict in the when
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  the jut in a an instruction, the jury instruction, they have the wises
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  name and not the victim's name. And then in a charging document they have
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  the the victim's name and not the witness name. And they also don't have
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  a predicate offense. So you know, how can this conviction stand or why
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  what? Why didn't he Why wasn't he able to walk out the courts the
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  courthouse when it was when they did not find him guilty of the murder?
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  Yeah, what's the thing name? You know, they can claimed that that
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  was the type of graphical hero, but the Broughten Ryan is that they did
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  the childe him with a rugby and robbery must underline purity of defense must be
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  proven by a jury to a jury. When they UH convicted him of felery
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  murder, they actually invaded the progress of the jury and made a determination themselves
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  that he was guilty of selly murder without present to the jury that he UH
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  that he committed an underline predict confess they didn't do that, and that's the
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  reason why this deviction is no good, you know, even his double jipardy
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  claim. That's the reason why he's claimed double jippardy. It's because they have
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  quitted him a murder and then they came along again and charged him with selly
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  murder under the guys of an underlying credit the offense, when the victim actually
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  said in the transparent that one did not attempt of value from him at all.
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  And so that's the problem with this conviction is that they didn't charge and
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  convictim of fellow murder. They didn't charge and convict them or the convictim of
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  fellow the murder, but they didn't charge the convictim of an underlying present offense.
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  And that has to happen and are to find someone healthy of fellow the
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  murder. Okay, so we have a question, uh so what can be
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  done now? Since we know all this about the about his case? What
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  can be done? And I will give that question to either Ride or well
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  Rod. The they they they ran out of time, so maybe you can
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  answer that call that question what can be done? Since we know all of
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  this about his case? We have to find an attorney that has balls the
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  attorney that I see, don't have no balls and they're scared to fight the
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  justice system. So we have to have a judge, I mean, an
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  attorney who's not scared to fight justice for day. They So far, we
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  have not found anyone to take the risks to fight for his cause when he
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  was convicted of something he did not do. So that's where our hands is
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  tied. We have not been able to find attorney who will fight his case.
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  Okay, So it's just it's all about money. It's all about money.
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  If you have they can find you convict. They can convict you of
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  something you can thedn't do, and you serve all this time all because is
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  you don't have the money to to pay a high price lawyer to get you
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  out of something that that you didn't even you wasn't even involved in. And
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  then it's crazy, how has to fight for you know that's convicted and had
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  to fight to come out. Yeah, that's I apologize. I got so
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  much that they calling me back and everything and uh, yeah that's what's going
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  on. I do apologize to the viewers as well because they're calling me back
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  one okay, So we were just talking about what needs to be done,
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  what can'p what needs to be done? Me and and Rod we were just
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  talking about that. Well, Rod, I guess they having some issues with
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  the phones lining over there. I can hear you. I can hear you.
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  Go ahead, go ahead, I can hear you. Yours is real
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  low camp, but I can hear wine. Go ahead, wink, No,
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  you gotta talk louder. Hm I came here. H m hm mm
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  hmm. Well Channette dropped off. I don't know what's going on with her
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  device, but she's back. I am so sorry. Yes, I'm having
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  a little problem, a little technical over here on this side. Yeah,
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  okay, go ahead. The question was what needs what can what needs to
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  be done now? Since all since we know this is going on with his
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  case, Well, you know, the thing that you're doing, you know,
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  is is uh, it's it's a great game, you know, and
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  trying to get you know, involvement you know, from from the puppet.
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  One is is you know, found h several different you know, priests and
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  whatever in the courts. And this is one thing that the court you know,
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  fails to acknowledge, is that there was no underlying prese of offense.
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  You know, it's plain, you know, and simple that just give the
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  elements means nothing. If you don't prove beyond the reasonable doubts you know that
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  underlying credic confens happened. And if you don't difference your reverted forms to make
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  a determination as to you know, uh, to make a determination of field
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  to innocence, you know about uh about it, then you know, uh,
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  there's really there really was no charge. Yeah uh so uh And in
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  my opinion, that's that's what the whole problem is. You know, if
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  we can't if we can't get outside help, so to speak, you know,
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  in terms of the direction that we need to go in, you know
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  next, then you know there's not a whole line you know that we can
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  do. And so you know this, We've researched it through and through.
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  And the fellow murder statute doesn't say that you can find a guy guilty and
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  take his life by an inference of guilt. The fellow murder's stature says that
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  you have to prove the underlying predical events two b our fellowly murder against someone
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  full for it. Yeah right, So that's what's not that's that's what the
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  court is not not acknowledging that This wasn't done here, right, because he
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  was never charged with that predicative offense, just like we went over cases the
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  Armen case, the Armor case, in the Double Day case where they was
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  charged with a predicative offense, but it was also set aside. Can't uh,
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  it was set aside. It was set aside because uh, they didn't
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  prove beyond a reasonable doubt, uh to majury that they committed that predicate offense.
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  But they didn't charge it in those cases and Double Day versus people,
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  you know, and all versus people they did. They didn't charge them with
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  those predicate offenses and the juries, and they did not prove the elements of
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  those offenses to the jury. In Lawren's case, they didn't charge those elements.
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  They charge him with robbery or any other underlying predicate offense listed in the
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  tell murder statue. And so without them charging him, then there's no way
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  that you can convict them tell the murder b efforts. It has to be
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  proved beyond no doubt. But how did you know? Once again, it
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  the question is gonna remain, how did they get a conviction without the underlying
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  predicate offense? And you know, until we get intel a lawyer, as
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  Brod say, get some balls and want to fight the the system. Then
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  we're gonna constantly see black men and black women, brown men and brown women,
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  and a sent going in and out the system behind this, you know.
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  Really, to me, it's like a money thing. That's if you
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  if you got the money, you you can get off. If you don't
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  got it, well we're just gonna throw out, gonna give you life without
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  the possibility, and you're just gonna have to fight to get out. You
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  It's it's too much. We heard from one junior tonight how the effect of
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  his father being incarcerated on a room for conviction, how that, how that,
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  how that helped, how that went against him his life, you know,
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  effected his life. Sorry about that. I just got so much going
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  on. But we have to stand up people, We we have we have
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  we have to pay, we have to stand up. We have to stand
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  up. If we don't stand up and we don't speak up, it's gonna
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  continuously happen. Yeah, you know, it's going to continuously have And what
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  we're going to do, what are we going to do? We can all
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  we can really try to do is stay in the fight, you know,
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  a man, you know, an innocent man you know, should never stop
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  fighting, you know, no matter what, you know, to try to
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  regain his freedom. And that's I have to commend one for that, because
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  he's never gave up to fight. You know. It's just you know,
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  trying to get someone to hear you, trying to get you know, someone
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  to sit and you know he's got given him a direction and go in,
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  you know, I mean it, it's one of the things that's staying out
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  a half bay, you know, it's probably and so you know, you
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  know, h the board is not much over here in a pro se litigant.
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  You know, someone's trying to fight for himself and this kind of situation
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  and it's sad, but it's true. You know, that's what we face
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  when we followed you know, uh and and the and the and the uh
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  anything in the in the current judicial system. And so the only thing we
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  can do is to keep trying, you know, and at some point,
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  you know, they say, nothing is au filure but to try. But
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  at some point, things you know will uh change and and and that point,
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  I don't know. I just believe that there's a measure of time on
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  all things. And as long as you keep you know, scribing to you
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  know, to keep the truth out there, things will change. But I
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  mean, you know, it's like you can only do so much. Uh
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  huh, you can only do so much. But if your other line is
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  ringing their uh one is is trying to you know, get back on the
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  line. I don't know what's going on on this and I would need him
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  probably to jump on the phone that you have really Okay, okay, all
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  right, Rod, Did you have anything to add? Yeah? Well,
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  my main thing is very confusion. Where you can show the law, the
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  law says it all, and they're not taking that under consideration. I see
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  this all the time. One ain't the only one going through this bullshit.
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  And it seemed like we as minorities, just don't have no one that'll fight
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  for us. And that's our biggest problem. No one takes our cases serious,
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  not unless you have money. If you have money, one wouldn't even
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  be in there. It'd have been out a long time ago. But when
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  you don't have that money to fight, it's like nobody even takes you serious.
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  They could care less what you're trying to fight for. Yes, Win,
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  Do you have anything to say before I'll give my clothing remarks all right
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  here? Hello, do you have anything to say before I give my clothing
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  remarks. It's a question, it's a statement of right now, it's just
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  another form of slavery. Brib Would you like to say anything on that?
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  One? Well, what she just said is very true, nothing changing four
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  hundred years. It's the same. They just got a different way of showing
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  it. Jail is a slavery. You get paid twenty five dollars in a
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  two months, you know it's slavery. They just got a different way they're
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  doing it. And we don't have no one to fight for us. They
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  know that that been going over for four hundred years and probably do another four
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  hundred years if we don't stand up and fight for each other. So far,
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  if a person not in Wan's position, no one cares. They don't
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  listen to your fight, They don't listen to your paperwork. The law can
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  say one thing, and they don't even go by what the law says.
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  Not when you're a minority, and that's what's unfair. One, Do you
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  have anything to say? I mean, I just want to say that.
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  I mean, with all the things that's been going on with my chase.
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  The things that I've learned over studying and we do my research is that I've
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  come with the law to the courts. I've come with my petitions to the
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  court to ask them to right this wrong. And they keep telling me and
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  because I'm pro safe me and I have to do it myself, because they've
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  denied me ready legal representation, but they treat me as a mama professional attorney
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  and telling me that I should have brought up these claims in the very beginning.
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  But I'm saying that how can I bring it up? And for one,
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  I don't have you don't want to give me the transcripts at the time
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  when I need them. Are you telling me I'm procedurally barred or successive me
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  and that you don't answer none of my questions or none of my issues.
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  But yet you would tell me that I'm time barred? Are its successive because
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  it wasn't brought up in my direct appeal when I had a public defender appeals
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  public defender at the time, and she did not bring up none of these
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  issues. And so now they may get me to run around all this time
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  for the last almost ten years, and still it still refused to give me
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  any type of relief. Mm hmm. Well, they're gonna hear you one
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  sooner or later. I just had one question. I meant to ask you
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  this a little earlier when I had one junior on here. Well it's uh
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  a a and b okay. The first part of it is how did you
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  feel when you learned that one was incarcerated? And second, the second part
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  is how did you feel seeing him there? Uh? Okay, that's a
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  good question. The first the first one, it hurted. It hurted me
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  because I feel like I felt failed because for one, I wasn't there to
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  raise it. You could have been there, U this would have happened,
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  you know, because he followed my first step. Like I said, I
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  was a truck driver and also on my own barbecue stand, and that's what
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  he would have been a part of. But by me not being there and
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  being wrongfully accused and wrongfully convicted, it took me out of the house or
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  out of the home raising him. And so by that, by that going
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  on knowing that he has to defend for his self now, it caused him
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  to go out to the streets and hustle and do whatever he had to do
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  to make make against me. He was a juvenile, so I mean just
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  knowing, like when I was there, he didn't need for anything because I
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  provided that. But when they took me out the home, it left for
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  me to defend up defend for them because as I was growing up, I
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  didn't have a father either, so I was out in the streets. So
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  I know exactly what he was going through just to have what he wants and
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  his mother not being able to provide it for him at that moment in time,
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  just because it was it was rough, not having enough that caused him
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  to go out to the streets. So this is the letter. And just
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  seeing him when he comes through here, I mean right here, sitting next
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  to me in the same time with me right now, it has an effect.
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  It hurts, you know, just to have my son here because we're
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  not supposed to be here. But with the system, this is what they
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  do to us as African Americans, and it goes on all over a repeated
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  cycle. Right well, thank you, Thank you one Junior A. Sayer
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  and Glenn and Rob for joining me this evening on let's talk about it.
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  Thank you for joining me for another episode as well. Join I will be
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  back here for a bonus show. Next Monday, I will have in studio,
• 37:15
  will be the Queen of collaboration of the podcast, the visionary Miss Angela
• 37:24
  Thompson will be join me joining me. Also Cornell will be joining me.
• 37:30
  We will be talking about the Free Texas campaign, what's going over there,
• 37:36
  what's going on over there in the Texas prison system, and how they treating
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  the man's over there. So you can catch me on the first and third
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  Mondays of every month, but next Monday, at the same time, I
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  will be having a bonus So thank you guys very much for joining me here.
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  It's been a crazy love forty five minutes, but I enjoyed my time
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  talking to these man's and getting the message out. Remember to always use your
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  voice to speak up and speak out, even if your voice is shaky.
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