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Joe Tacopina | Defense Attorney Joins S&FIM for Weekly Friday Morning Legal Discussion · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: So the fraternity members were actually called out because they
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  Speaker 1: repeatedly used the word consensual, which some would say unusual
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  Speaker 1: word for fraternity members, like college kids to keep using
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  Speaker 1: the word consensual, consensual. That would go to an argument. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: there was an allegation that they all had a meeting.
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  Speaker 1: Were they all trying to get on the same page?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that's something that Letitia James is going
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  Speaker 1: to work with?
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  Speaker 2: If I were the prosecutor in this case and I
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  Speaker 2: believed in my case, yeah, that's something I would work
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  Speaker 2: with because, you know, it does sound rehearsed, I should say,
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  Speaker 2: and it sounds very the fact that they're all saying
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  Speaker 2: the same words, taglines, does sound rehearsed, and it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like they're supporting the fraternity brothers. Now, you mentioned a
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  Speaker 2: name that I have to address in this show, Letitia James.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: I could not think of a less qualified prosecutor to
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  Speaker 2: prosecute this case. I mean, Kathy Hoke, the governor of
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  Speaker 2: New York, just made this case political, and neither the
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  Speaker 2: alleged victim, the woman, or these alleged accomplices you know
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  Speaker 2: defendants um of the civil suit anyway um does both
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  Speaker 2: deserve a fair and unbiased investigation Letitia James and I've
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  Speaker 2: dealt with her when I represented the president and it's
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  Speaker 2: just um not someone who I have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: respect for and I think she's clearly someone who has
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  Speaker 2: a a bias when she prosecutes cases I mean she
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  Speaker 2: announced before before even becoming attorney general that she was
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  Speaker 2: going to prosecute Trump I then asked that question how
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  Speaker 2: did she know How did she know? Because she was
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  Speaker 2: a private citizen. She didn't have access to records. She
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  Speaker 2: didn't have subpoena power, but she knew she was going
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  Speaker 2: to prosecute Trump. Putting that aside, she did the same
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  Speaker 2: thing here. Before she was appointed in this case as
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  Speaker 2: the prosecutor, special prosecutor, she had made a statement supporting
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  Speaker 2: the alleged victim in this case, saying, we stand with you,
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  Speaker 2: and condoning her standing up and alleging that these men
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  Speaker 2: raped her. So she basically said, I believe her, I
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  Speaker 2: believe there was a rape, and we stand with you.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's the prosecutor, and now comes with the tagline,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're going to do a thorough investigation, and
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  Speaker 2: wherever the facts and the law bring us, that's where
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  Speaker 2: we'll go. That doesn't really fly. You know, you can't
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  Speaker 2: go from an advocate for the alleged victim one day
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  Speaker 2: to an unbiased prosecutor one day later because you get appointed.
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  Speaker 2: I think she clearly has an agenda, and we know
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  Speaker 2: where this is going.
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  Speaker 4: On News Nation, my main man, the best defense attorney
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  Speaker 4: in the world today, Joseph Takapina. Taka, I doubt you
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  Speaker 4: caught that last night because you're busy. You're doing stuff
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  Speaker 4: all day and all night long. But for what it's worth,
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  Speaker 4: our girl, Saritha, beat the living daylights out of Letitia
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  Speaker 4: James last night. And we can only hope that in
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  Speaker 4: 24 days, she replaces Letitia as the attorney general. Joseph Takapina,
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  Speaker 4: we can only hope. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I didn't see it, but I really
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  Speaker 3: I read a thorough breakdown of it. And I think
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  Speaker 3: she was phenomenal. I really do. You know, called her
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  Speaker 3: a political hack. She clearly is. You know, talked about
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  Speaker 3: the laws were broken and James broke them. You know,
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  Speaker 3: she was the largest champion for having this catch and
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  Speaker 3: release system, which New York is suffering from. She brought
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  Speaker 3: up some great points. Letitia James is qualified to be
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  Speaker 3: attorney general as the guy who makes my espresso in
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  Speaker 3: the morning at the cafe. I swear to God. And
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  Speaker 3: she just keeps making the stupidest mistakes. And how she
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  Speaker 3: accepted an appointment for the Cornell 7 case is out.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't understand it. I just don't understand it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't either.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's Kathy Hochul. That's Hochul's choice.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's Hochul's choice, but she also has to understand,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Hochul's a moron, okay, a moron. I know
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  Speaker 3: you guys have breakfast together and stuff like that, but
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  Speaker 3: she's a moron. She is a moron. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: cannot escape the worst prosecutor. First of all, she's not
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  Speaker 3: a criminal prosecutor. She's never prosecuted a rape case in
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  Speaker 3: her life, okay? Let's start out with that. Then let's
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  Speaker 3: go to the more important things. She's already come out
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  Speaker 3: on which side of the fence she finds credible. Before
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  Speaker 3: being appointed, she actually said that she stands with The victim. Right.
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  Speaker 5: But the victim on Facebook.
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  Speaker 4: And just so you know, I want to repeat this
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  Speaker 4: because it's important because I'm not standing with anybody. But
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  Speaker 4: but what I did say was and Joseph agrees, what
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  Speaker 4: these boys did was morally reprehensible.
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  Speaker 5: You know, she no girl. I don't care how messed
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  Speaker 5: up she is. Wants to have sex with seven guys.
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  Speaker 3: OK, no girl.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe she agreed to one or two, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: So at the very least, what these boys did was grotesque.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean, I know Joe agrees, that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 4: they're criminally guilty, which, as you said, Letitia James already
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  Speaker 4: said on social media before she officially was appointed with this.
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  Speaker 3: Case, yes? She said that they're– yes, she said they're
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  Speaker 3: guilty because she stands with the quote-unquote victim. It's appalling
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  Speaker 3: what happened to her. I mean, if it happened to her,
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  Speaker 3: that means there was an act. There was a crime,
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  Speaker 3: that she is the victim. Now, two days later, she
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  Speaker 3: gets up on her podium and says– We're going to
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  Speaker 3: do a fair investigation and let the evidence take us
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  Speaker 3: where it takes us and where it leads us. Well,
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  Speaker 3: wait a minute. You just said that the girl's telling
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  Speaker 3: the truth. You just said that the boys are rapists.
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  Speaker 3: So now you're going to do a fair investigation? This
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  Speaker 3: is what she did with Trump. It's exactly what she
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  Speaker 3: did with Trump. I mean, first came out in her
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  Speaker 3: campaign to get elected by saying she's going to go
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  Speaker 3: after Trump. She's going to prosecute Trump. I then, as
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  Speaker 3: his lawyer, was simply asking the question repeatedly, really? I'd
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  Speaker 3: love to debate on that because I want to ask
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  Speaker 3: her a question. How did she know she was going
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  Speaker 3: to prosecute Trump? She was a private citizen that did
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  Speaker 3: not have access to evidence, did not have subpoena power,
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  Speaker 3: did not have anything but a campaign promise. OK, so
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  Speaker 3: that's all that was. That was political. This is now
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  Speaker 3: doing the same thing. I mean, she's still with this woman.
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  Speaker 3: But let me say this to you. You know, fraternity.
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  Speaker 3: And frat house behavior does not necessarily equate to criminal activity. Right.
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  Speaker 3: So we have to be careful. Right. We could all
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  Speaker 3: be appalled by it, but a lot of frat houses
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  Speaker 3: are appalling. But, you know, I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 3: we can't jump to the conclusion that it was simply
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  Speaker 3: because it was disgusting, despicable, things we would never consider doing,
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  Speaker 3: things we'd be embarrassed if our kids did, does not
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  Speaker 3: make it a crime.
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  Speaker 5: No, I understand that.
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  Speaker 4: But, but, but, like you said on that TV show,
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  Speaker 4: and you were great there, too, as you are here
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  Speaker 4: every week, That word consensual, come on, college kids don't
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  Speaker 4: throw that word around unless they started to figure out, oh,
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  Speaker 4: my God, we're in trouble. We better say it was consensual. Also,
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  Speaker 4: you had the Snapchat, you know, the discussions back and forth.
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  Speaker 5: Head on in there, pre-sex. So you're right, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: We got to get to the bottom of this. We
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  Speaker 5: got to get all the facts.
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  Speaker 4: But at least early on, there's a lot of very
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  Speaker 4: damaging stuff that points to the boys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there is. I mean, there is some... Those conversations
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  Speaker 3: are brutal, right? I mean, especially the ones that say,
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  Speaker 3: you know, come on up, the door's still open, you know,
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff like that. That's bad stuff. Gross. But
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  Speaker 3: it's gross. But, again, Sid, you know, there's... a lot
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  Speaker 3: of facts that have to be unpackaged here. There really are.
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  Speaker 5: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: And those, those messages are, are, are, are fat boy nonsense.
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  Speaker 3: And it's, it's wrong. It's disgusting. It's despicable. Now, again,
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  Speaker 3: if she was quote unquote, the standard of the law
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  Speaker 3: is physically helpless. If she was physically helpless. Okay. Anyone
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  Speaker 3: at that point who, who engages with her sexually is
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  Speaker 3: committing rape. Okay. Well, they know to not. And that's why.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: Well, when you say when she, well, all those two
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  Speaker 4: words you used exactly physically, what helpless?
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  Speaker 3: There's two standards in New York law, mental incapacitated and
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  Speaker 3: physically helpless.
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  Speaker 5: So physically helpless. So if she's unconscious.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise, or otherwise physically... Okay, fine.
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  Speaker 4: But physically helpless, unconscious is that. Can you be conscious
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  Speaker 4: and talking and still be considered physically helpless?
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  Speaker 3: You know, then we're going to mentally incapacitated, right? So
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  Speaker 3: that's another thing. That's when you're just, you can't even...
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  Speaker 3: You don't have the ability to consent. So you can
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  Speaker 3: be able to speak but not able to consent because
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  Speaker 3: you are so inebriated, intoxicated, drugged up, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 3: There's the mental incapacitated standard in New York law along
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  Speaker 3: with physically helpless. One of those two things happen. You
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  Speaker 3: cannot have sex with a girl legally or a man, okay, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: legally because it's rape. And that's what we have to
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  Speaker 3: talk about here. That's what we have to find out now.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so passing out after drinking doesn't give anyone
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  Speaker 3: permission to have sex. I think we've established that. Right.
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  Speaker 3: So you have to, you know. And so there's this
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  Speaker 3: whole thing that we have to really unpackage here because
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  Speaker 3: I saw a lot of her text messages in this
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  Speaker 3: conversation that was just released. And they're not helpful to her.
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  Speaker 3: They just are not helpful to her. No.
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  Speaker 5: Because I saw messages where she said, I exposed you.
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  Speaker 5: You're a liar. I never said that. I never agreed
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  Speaker 5: to that.
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  Speaker 3: So, look, there were text messages on October 21st to
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  Speaker 3: this guy, Jonathan Newell, one of the guys, right? And
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  Speaker 3: it included reassurances that the encounter and statements was what
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  Speaker 3: she enjoyed. She said, you know, my body, my choice, right?
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  Speaker 3: And she said, oh, yeah, there were some devastating statements,
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  Speaker 3: very good statements for the defense, okay? She enjoyed being
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  Speaker 3: with him. She talked about I don't know how to
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  Speaker 3: say this on your show.
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  Speaker 5: Just say it.
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  Speaker 3: Sucking ketamine on the body part of the boy.
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  Speaker 5: What's so bad about that, by the way?
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  Speaker 3: That's okay. It was amazing. Right. Don't get me in trouble. So, yes,
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  Speaker 3: but she said those things. The defense argument, those statements
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  Speaker 3: close to the time of the events may conflict with
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  Speaker 3: her later allegations. And if authenticated and admitted, that's some
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  Speaker 3: powerful cross-examination.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I was going to ask you.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you're the best defense attorney in the world. But,
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  Speaker 4: of course, you started, like most defense attorneys, as a prosecutor.
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  Speaker 5: You all did.
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  Speaker 4: You, Artie, my wife.
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  Speaker 5: But just a little.
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  Speaker 4: Hypothetical here, just a make-believe world. If this girl wanted
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  Speaker 4: you to be her attorney, would you do it? And
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  Speaker 4: do you think you could win the case?
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  Speaker 3: Here's how I would do it. I would do it
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  Speaker 3: after I sat down with her and asked her a
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  Speaker 3: lot of very tough questions, okay, a lot of very
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  Speaker 3: tough questions. And I'm sorry. I am not in the
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  Speaker 3: camp that if someone makes an allegation, a female in particular,
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  Speaker 3: against a male of sexual abuse and or rape, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not in the camp that it must be true because
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  Speaker 3: they said it. And anyone who says that is so
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  Speaker 3: repulsively unintelligent. I know it's politically correct to just say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: if the woman said it, why would she be making
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  Speaker 3: it up? I have many cases. Where women have made
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  Speaker 3: it up.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, let me give you one right now. E. Jean Carroll.
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  Speaker 5: How about that one?
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  Speaker 3: We won the rape case there because she made it up. OK,
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  Speaker 3: no question about that. We you know, I had the
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  Speaker 3: rape cops case. OK, that was an acquittal. OK, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, so the allegations of and believe me, in
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  Speaker 3: both those cases. I mean, I was like being attacked.
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  Speaker 5: I would get a message.
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  Speaker 4: What's up with your scumbag friend representing orange guy over
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  Speaker 4: a poor girl who got raped. He didn't even do
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  Speaker 4: it in a hotel. He did it in a damn
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  Speaker 4: fitting room.
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  Speaker 3: In the locker room, Birdo could be on the fifth
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  Speaker 3: floor in the middle of the day, 26, 27, 28, 29,
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  Speaker 3: 30 years ago. We couldn't tell. We don't remember. We
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  Speaker 3: never went to the police. We don't know what time
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  Speaker 3: of year it was. We could check our schedules. There
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  Speaker 3: was nothing.
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  Speaker 5: Although it is funny.
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  Speaker 4: You just said something that's very ironic. You said never
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  Speaker 4: went to the police. And in this case with the
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  Speaker 4: Cornell girl, she didn't either. Now, look, we know girls
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  Speaker 4: are embarrassed.
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  Speaker 5: I get that. I get it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm never going to hold it against if she really
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  Speaker 4: is a victim. Never going to hold against them that
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  Speaker 4: they're embarrassed. But in both those cases, this girl also
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  Speaker 4: did not go. She went to the school first.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the school has its own police department. So I
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  Speaker 3: thought about that shit. I was thinking, geez, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you get raped, you don't go to civil court, you
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  Speaker 3: go to the police department, right? And that's something I
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  Speaker 3: pointed out to the E.G. Callender. I said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's a right down the block, Ms. Carroll, one block
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  Speaker 3: from this courthouse, there's a police station. Do you plan
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  Speaker 3: on going there soon? Because, you know, if this happens,
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  Speaker 3: you have a duty to protect society, right? You should
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  Speaker 3: go to the police. Of course, no, but you wanted
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  Speaker 3: money and went the civil route. Same thing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you could argue here about, Because she's filing a civil
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  Speaker 3: lawsuit for money, right? But it's not quite as clear
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  Speaker 3: cut because Cornell has its own police department. So she
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  Speaker 3: went to the Cornell Police Department. You know, they are police.
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  Speaker 3: So she did report it to law enforcement. However, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Mickey Mouse is that law enforcement. Right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they were law enforcement.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I want to bring you to this icing today.
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  Speaker 4: Then we'll let you run. So, look, I'm all for
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  Speaker 4: cops investigating cops. No one's got more awards from cops.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you, but I don't think so. Other than me.
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  Speaker 4: And I was, again, back at Bussos on the Bay
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  Speaker 4: last night being honored by the DEA and Scott Munro.
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  Speaker 3: Rick Torelli was there with you, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Yes!
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  Speaker 4: Yes, he kept bringing up your name a hundred times. Takapino,
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  Speaker 4: Rick Torelli, very nice guy.
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  Speaker 5: You know I love the cops.
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  Speaker 4: But listen, once in a while they score up a
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  Speaker 4: little bit, you know. So if it turns out that
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  Speaker 4: this shooting.
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  Speaker 4: Marble Hill yesterday, the ICE agent shot a guy who
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  Speaker 4: had a five-year-old in the car.
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  Speaker 5: That's never good, okay?
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  Speaker 4: If it turns out that it was an overreaction, trust me,
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  Speaker 4: Mark Wayne, Mullen, the police.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to find out.
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  Speaker 4: But regardless of that, let's put that to the side.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, there's a guy that didn't die. The little
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  Speaker 4: kid didn't get shot. Why would the mayor... Go out there.
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  Speaker 4: Tell everybody he lied. I called Trump and Mullen spoke
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  Speaker 4: for two hours. Do you think that President Trump and
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  Speaker 4: Mark Wayne Mullen spoke to this idiot for two hours
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  Speaker 4: last night?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think so. I think it was a pretty
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  Speaker 5: quick conversation.
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  Speaker 4: But why would this mayor, regardless of what I did
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  Speaker 4: or didn't do, Why would he call the President of
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  Speaker 4: the United States to have a guy who's got gang relations, alleged,
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  Speaker 4: a guy that this is not alleged, has a long
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  Speaker 4: rap sheet, including two arrests in New York. Why would
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  Speaker 4: the mayor want that guy back on the streets, regardless
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  Speaker 4: of what ICE did?
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  Speaker 3: He's a Trinitario member, okay? Suspected anyway, Trinitario member. He
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  Speaker 3: is a gang member for sure, right? So he is
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  Speaker 3: someone who was a legal immigrant gang member with a
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  Speaker 3: horrific record. It doesn't mean we get to shoot you. Right. However, however,
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  Speaker 3: you know, on the other hand, you have to understand
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  Speaker 3: it's not like some old lady walking down the street
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  Speaker 3: was shot by a nice agent. OK, so we have
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  Speaker 3: to put in perspective what drives me crazy about this mayor.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot, a lot that drives me crazy. The
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  Speaker 3: fact that we're driving every billionaire, you know, major taxpayer business.
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  Speaker 3: out of New York City in droves is scaring me.
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  Speaker 3: I think our city is the greatest city in the world.
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  Speaker 3: I love it more than any city.
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  Speaker 4: In the world.
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  Speaker 3: I've been all over the world and there's nothing like
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  Speaker 3: New York, but you feel the core corroding a little
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  Speaker 3: bit here because the people like, I'll go back to Griffin, right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the guy was the largest taxpayer in New
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  Speaker 3: York City and then not to mention his 600 billion,
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  Speaker 3: 600 million philanthropic donations, okay? And he's got, like he
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  Speaker 3: got pushed out of New York by this guy who
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  Speaker 3: stood in front of his house He should be kissing
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  Speaker 3: his feet. OK, so it's more the same with Mondami.
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  Speaker 3: I digress on that. I'm sorry. But but it just
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  Speaker 3: he drives me crazy when I see the city looking
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  Speaker 3: like it did under, you know, the Lincoln days a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. You know, it makes me worried because we
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  Speaker 3: have the greatest city in the world that's as vibrant
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  Speaker 3: as ever been. It's now going in the wrong direction.
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  Speaker 3: And then when you have the mayor of the city
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: again attacking the police, defending a gang member. It really,
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  Speaker 3: really is troubling. I mean, this is the same mayor
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  Speaker 3: who went a top and a perp at a shootout,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: and both were shot. He went to the hospital. To
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: visit the perp.
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  Speaker 5: That's right. I actually told that story last night.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that to me was the most appalling thing
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  Speaker 3: I've ever seen. You stand behind your police. They go
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: out there every day, not knowing if they're going to
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: come home. Every single day. Okay? And we have to
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: support and stand behind them. We have to say thank
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: you to those guys and women of the police force.
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  Speaker 3: We have to. And when he does something like that,
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  Speaker 3: how do you think the police feel? Wait, I got
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: into a shootout with a guy who was a criminal
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: who tried to kill a member of law enforcement. And...
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  Speaker 3: The mayor went to go to his hospital bed and
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: didn't come to my hospital bed. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you want to, if you're a cop, you want to just,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: you know, throw the donut shop, keep your head down,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: get your shift done and go home. Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 5: You're right. No, I actually, uh, wrap this up.
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  Speaker 4: But, um, when they honored me last night, I, I
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: went up there and I said, you guys didn't think
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I was going to speak and not mention mom Donnie.
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  Speaker 4: I said, I don't want to make this political because
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: you're honoring me and John and Margo Katzmatidis.
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  Speaker 3: It was lovely.
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  Speaker 4: But I spent most of my very, very short speech
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: talking about Mamdani, Hochul, how the politicians and even citizens
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: in this city don't appreciate law enforcement. I said, how
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: nice would it be if they got a couple more
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: bucks and be your pensions were better. But see, the
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: people in the street respected you and the politicians didn't.
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  Speaker 4: actually loved you. And I got a pretty nice round
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: of applause because what you just said is true. This
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: mayor doesn't like the cops, not even a little. He
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: holds on to Jessica Tisch because the truth is she
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: makes them look good. You know, he can boast about
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: the crime numbers being down. He can also say, hey,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not an anti-Semite. My police commissioner is Jewish. He
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: only holds on to Jessica Tisch because she checks a
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: couple of boxes that work in his favor.
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  Speaker 5: Trust me.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: In his core, he can't stand her. She wears a
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Mogan David every day to work. He can't stand her,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: but he's a user, and she works for him, okay?
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: But the truth is, he hates the cops, and that
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: was evident again last night.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: So how much fun was it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Going to Italy with all of our high school friends
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: a couple days ago?
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: That was awesome. Thank you for giving me that last-minute call.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: It was awesome. And to see those guys, yeah, I mean,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: those were my boys. I mean, you know, each and
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: every one of them, Barron's and Skaglion, Camariano's, Agliano. I mean,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: it was really a cool thing, brother.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: They were very excited to see you, too. You know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: everybody in Pali, they're very proud of you, Joseph, as
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: I am. And, of course, you and I have remained very,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: very close.
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  Speaker 3: We're brothers.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: We're brothers forever.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: The better part of five decades, but some of those
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: guys are really excited to see you. And you look
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: like a million bucks with those big, beautiful arms. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: got to tell you, if I was gay, and I'm not,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: but if I was, oh my God, what I would
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: have done to you that night.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: So that when your hand was on my leg, that
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: was accidental.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: That was a little bit of foreplay, Joseph. That's all
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: that was. I know you were great. You look great.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: And today you were great as well. We love having
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: you on every Friday, Joseph. Thank you so much.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: That's a highlight of my week, brother. Thank you.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I know you mean that.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I love you.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Joseph Takapina, the best defense attorney anywhere in the world,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: and more importantly, my buddy of 49 years.
• 18:58
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