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Feminists Around the World: Legends of Hawaiian Surfing · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this Scenny and Samantha and welcome to Stuff whe
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  Speaker 1: Never Told You production of I Heard Radio.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome back to another episode a Feminist around the World,
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  Speaker 2: and we are dedicating this episode to some of the
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  Speaker 2: legends of Hawaiian surfing, the Hawaiian wahine as we have
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  Speaker 2: referenced before, who have and continue to change the sport
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  Speaker 2: and do some amazing things within their community. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: as with most of our episodes, when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: who we are talking about and who is making an impact,
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  Speaker 2: it's a giant list. So the list we have is
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  Speaker 2: very small compared to the many who deserve to be
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  Speaker 2: recognized and given their flowers. And one day, maybe if
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  Speaker 2: we just keep going for the next ten thousand years,
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  Speaker 2: we can talk about all of them, all of them. Yeah, sure, sure, sure,
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  Speaker 2: sure sure, But yes, this is just a small, very
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  Speaker 2: small list for a very short segment that we wanted
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. But also with kind of a content warning,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, not necessarily content warning, just a heads up.
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  Speaker 2: As per usual, we try our best with pronunciations. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think there's anything big this time around, but we
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  Speaker 2: can get pronunciations wrong, and there's a lot of times
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  Speaker 2: where we figured out that we don't say some of
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  Speaker 2: these words out loud, yes, and have to figure out
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  Speaker 2: how to pronounce them, even though they might be common.
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  Speaker 2: But what was common in our heads is not actually
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  Speaker 2: how it's said.
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  Speaker 1: This is true. This is true. This is one of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest lessons of podcasting.
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  Speaker 2: It's true. It really threw me off how little I
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  Speaker 2: knew how to say things so that way I say it.
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  Speaker 2: And also with this, there is a lot of controversy
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  Speaker 2: that is happening within the surfing community, especially when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to trans athletes. There was a whole band on
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  Speaker 2: one trans athlete Sasha Jane Loewerson. She was barred from competing,
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  Speaker 2: and I think they got Huntington Beach one. But I
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  Speaker 2: know there's been new conversations and new rules and new
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  Speaker 2: opinions I guess that have come about, and there it
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  Speaker 2: is ongoing and continuing. And with that, of course, we're
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  Speaker 2: trying our best to exclude transphobic people, because I think
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  Speaker 2: that's really important that when we show our allyship to
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  Speaker 2: those in the trans community, that we are not trying
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  Speaker 2: to highlight people who are damaging our trans sisters. So
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  Speaker 2: with that, we are purposely leaving some people off of
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  Speaker 2: our list. If we added someone that is up making
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  Speaker 2: or have been known to make trans phobic remarks, please
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  Speaker 2: let us know, because I tried. We tried diligently to
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  Speaker 2: research as much as we could, but in the end
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  Speaker 2: we found out that, not surprisingly, the surfing community is
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  Speaker 2: pretty small and they are a lot of interlinking and
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  Speaker 2: associations between people. And we know this just because someone
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  Speaker 2: has an association with someone does not mean they have
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  Speaker 2: the same opinions. A lot of people have fallen out
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  Speaker 2: because of these opinions, but it wasn't known until much later.
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  Speaker 2: Like we've talked about how Trump really let us know
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  Speaker 2: who people were. Yeah, and I was like, that's one
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  Speaker 2: of the good things. We saw them for who they were.
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  Speaker 2: But they were friends with us, you know, we were
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  Speaker 2: friends with them for so long and we never saw
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  Speaker 2: that side quote unquote, not to give excuses, so but
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  Speaker 2: just say we are trying to be very conscient just
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  Speaker 2: of that. So please let us know. And we do
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  Speaker 2: apologize if we do include someone that is really hurtful,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't want that to be but again, we
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  Speaker 2: do want to celebrate those who are making a difference
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  Speaker 2: in our activists in these communities. So with that, we
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  Speaker 2: are starting off the list with the legend herself, carrisam
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  Speaker 2: Moore Caarisa Moore is an Olympic champion surfer who won
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  Speaker 2: the gold medal in women's shortboard surfing in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: and has qualified for the twenty twenty four Olympic gains. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she started surfing with her dad at the age of
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  Speaker 2: five in Honolulu. And yeah, this woman has won all
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  Speaker 2: of the awards. Well, at least it feels like it.
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  Speaker 2: As I was looking at the list, I'm like, that's
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  Speaker 2: a lot, So I'm just gonna leave it there. But
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  Speaker 2: she is a five time world champion and is still
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  Speaker 2: making waves obviously in the surfing world. And with all that,
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  Speaker 2: she founded the More Aloha nonprofit, which quote supports young
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  Speaker 2: women through scholarships, mentorships, and annual events centered on surfing.
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  Speaker 2: We found that out on Britannica dot com. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: very much.
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  Speaker 1: And she recently opened up about her own mental health
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  Speaker 1: struggles and the need to care for herself and her
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  Speaker 1: well being. She told Pop Sugar quote earlier this year,
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  Speaker 1: I made a huge decision to step away from competing
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  Speaker 1: on the Championship Tour full time. It is something that
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  Speaker 1: I had thought about for a few years. I was exhausted.
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  Speaker 1: Competing at the top level is very intense. I needed
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  Speaker 1: some time to shift focus and follow the joy, follow
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  Speaker 1: my heart. It's been a fun last couple of months.
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  Speaker 1: I'm busy in a different way and a little bit
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  Speaker 1: less stress, which is awesome. It's gotten me to be
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  Speaker 1: creative and think about other things aside from surfing.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But of course again, she's coming back for the Olympics,
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  Speaker 2: and she did say this would be her last big
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  Speaker 2: competition for a while. Anyway, I think that's a really
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  Speaker 2: big competition to end on.
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  Speaker 1: I I know then we have Coco Ho. Ho has
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  Speaker 1: been surfing since the age of seven and even earned
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  Speaker 1: her first sponsorship at the age of eight. She has
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  Speaker 1: won countless competitions and she was the youngest woman to
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  Speaker 1: qualify for the World Surfing League at the age of
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  Speaker 1: seventeen and a bit more from Forbes dot com quote,
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  Speaker 1: Hoe was the youngest woman to ever qualify for the
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  Speaker 1: World Surf League Women's World Tour at age seventeen, and
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  Speaker 1: prior to the WSL, she tore up the youth circuit,
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  Speaker 1: winning her first major event in pro surfing in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and five, when she became the Open Women's Regional
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  Speaker 1: champion for Hawaii. In two thousand and seven alone, Hoe
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  Speaker 1: won the VQS Championship and the Triple Crown Rookie of
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  Speaker 1: the Year award and napped the US Open Junior Pro
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  Speaker 1: Champion in two thousand and eight. Nearly every year after
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  Speaker 1: that until twenty sixteen, Hoe won multiple surf championships across
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  Speaker 1: the globe, from the Pacific to the Iberian coast.
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  Speaker 2: Right and with all her success, she has recently launched
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  Speaker 2: our own surfboard brand, XO Coco Oh. And also she
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  Speaker 2: was a part of the only surfing movie I ever watched,
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  Speaker 2: Blue Crush? Is that true? I probably watched other surfing movies,
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  Speaker 2: but none of them left an impact like Blue Crush.
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  Speaker 2: Well centered around It wasn't centered around women competing, so
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  Speaker 2: so it was centered around a white woman competing. But
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  Speaker 2: it is what it is. She also has become a
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  Speaker 2: fierce advocate for those who suffer from types of skin disorders,
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  Speaker 2: as some one who suffers from atopic dommatitis AD. She's
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  Speaker 2: been working alongside medical professionals to not only educate people,
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  Speaker 2: but helping people to get treatment so they can navigate
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  Speaker 2: the challenges of doing outdoor activities like surfing, and she
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  Speaker 2: was talked about how painful it can be. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's an amazing thing to be a part of. Oh
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  Speaker 2: and here are a few girls that were featured in
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  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three documentary from Amazon. Yes, I need
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  Speaker 2: to put this on your list. Kai Kai Na Surf Girls.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Okay. Starting with Pua de Soto. DeSoto has been
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  Speaker 1: surfing most of her life with her family, who are
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  Speaker 1: also legends in the community. DeSoto has said that she
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  Speaker 1: has been surfing since she was five months old, and
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  Speaker 1: it was at the age of eleven she decided to
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  Speaker 1: go professional. According to Free Surf magazine quote, DeSoto grew
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  Speaker 1: up surfing and learning from the best under their guidance.
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  Speaker 1: She began competing in local HASA and NSSA contest when
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  Speaker 1: she was eleven. By age thirteen, she was doing w
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  Speaker 1: s L, Junior pros and QS events. Now, at age sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: Desto has seven national titles under her belt.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and this article was from two years ago, so
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  Speaker 2: she's lacking now, she's still a baby, but she's still
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  Speaker 2: winning all the awards. And then we have Brianna Cope,
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  Speaker 2: a surfer who has recently begun to embrace her disability
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  Speaker 2: and who has always been a tough and fears competitor
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  Speaker 2: in the sport. In twenty twenty three, she made the
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  Speaker 2: USA national team for the ISA World Surfing Game, and
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  Speaker 2: has been surfing since the age of four, and was
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  Speaker 2: in her first competition just six years later at age ten.
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  Speaker 1: She talked about her past experiences of being bullied for
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  Speaker 1: her disability. She was born with the physical impairment of
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  Speaker 1: her hand and trying to hide it from the world.
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  Speaker 1: She told Olympics dot Com growing up, it's always so
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  Speaker 1: hard to be labeled as different. When I was a kid,
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  Speaker 1: I thought everyone was different, and I was the one
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  Speaker 1: with the normal hand. Being born with a birth defect
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  Speaker 1: and having kids pick on you, it really is so tough.
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  Speaker 1: I was always so shy, so embarrassed. So that taught me, though,
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  Speaker 1: to overcome. I bring it back to competing because I
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  Speaker 1: have the drive and the tenacity from being bullied and
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  Speaker 1: from being pushed down so much that I'm able to overcome.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it translates into my surfing and how
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  Speaker 1: I am as a person.
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  Speaker 2: Right And I believe she has a different documentary as well,
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  Speaker 2: specifically about her career, so that's something to look up
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  Speaker 2: as well. And then we have a ul Ulay Wang
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  Speaker 2: who started surfing at the age of two and began
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  Speaker 2: competing at the age of nine years old. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I definitely have missed the boat on surfing.
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  Speaker 2: He at the end of the window, completely missed it.
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  Speaker 2: And according to the inertia dot Com quote, in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two, Wang finished third at the Sunset Pro, fourth
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  Speaker 2: at the Hallewa Challenger, and one goal at the ISA
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  Speaker 2: World Junior Surfing Championships, helping Hawaii bring home the overall
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  Speaker 2: team gold. Yeah. And in that same article they ask
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  Speaker 2: about her childhood and surfing, which she said, something my
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  Speaker 2: parents always told me was it's not just about you,
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  Speaker 2: is about a bigger picture. You're not just surfing for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: You're surfing for your people and your culture. That's always
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  Speaker 2: been a big part of the reason for why I serf,
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  Speaker 2: especially going to a Hawaiian emerging school where we learn
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  Speaker 2: to speak the language and about our culture. Surfing as
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  Speaker 2: a cultural practice and learning about the language kind of
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  Speaker 2: came hand in hand, which is an amazing idea. So
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  Speaker 2: with that we're going to end because I know that's
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  Speaker 2: just so short and sweet, but we are going to win.
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  Speaker 2: With a shout out to the ladies on the twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four US Olympics surfing team, including Carissa Moore, Caroline
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  Speaker 2: Marx from Florida and Katie Simmers from California, good luck.
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  Speaker 2: We can't wait to see what you do.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, just yes. And we have done past episodes
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  Speaker 1: on how kind of recent women in the Olympics is actually,
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  Speaker 1: so check those out if you would like again let
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