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Martin Nowak, Jeffrey Epstein and the Questions Harvard Still Hasn’t Answered (8/25/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Whenever we talk about Jeffrey Epstein and higher education,
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  Speaker 1: the first university that comes to mind, at least for me,
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  Speaker 1: is Harvard. And that's because even after all this information dropped,
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  Speaker 1: even after we found out about Jeffrey Epstein's ties to Harvard,
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  Speaker 1: the university still has zero desire to cut all ties
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  Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein. And in my opinion, I'm sure that
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  Speaker 1: many of the people that are at Harvard, people that
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  Speaker 1: are on the board, etc. They don't think they did
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  Speaker 1: anything wrong, and they think the whole entire situation with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein is overblown. I mean, what else could explain their behavior.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you would think that if you had an
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  Speaker 1: employee who was emailing with Epstein and talking about spies
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  Speaker 1: and torture and the rest of it, that you'd cut
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  Speaker 1: ties with that person and move on. And in most
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  Speaker 1: normal businesses that what would happen. Go ahead and pop
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  Speaker 1: off some crazy shit and then see how long you
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  Speaker 1: keep your job for. In this day and age, somebody's
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  Speaker 1: going to report you on the Internet, somebody's gonna call
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  Speaker 1: your job, somebody's going to tell people that you're being
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  Speaker 1: a fool and you're gonna get fired. But at Harvard, Ah,
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  Speaker 1: no big deal. We'll just keep on keeping on. Today's
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  Speaker 1: article is from the Western Journal, and the headline Harvard
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  Speaker 1: still employs professor whose emails with Epstein mentioned spies and torture.
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  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Emily Kopp. Even as the
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  Speaker 1: class of twenty thirty prepares to arrive to the Harvard
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  Speaker 1: campus in two weeks, it's not yet clear how much
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  Speaker 1: longer Martin Owak, who cryptically discussed a captured spy and
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  Speaker 1: torture with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein in an unearthed twenty fourteen email,
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  Speaker 1: will remain on the university's payroll. What's he still doing
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  Speaker 1: on the payroll? As is? Imagine spending all this money
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  Speaker 1: to send your kid to Harvard and they end up
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  Speaker 1: shacked up well one of Jeffrey Epstein's buddies. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a no from me. Doug Epstein deeply
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  Speaker 1: embedded himself with NOAX program for Evolutionary Dynamics ped just
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  Speaker 1: off of Leafy, Harvard Yard. Epstein maintained an office there,
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  Speaker 1: describing it as my institute at Harvard in an email
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  Speaker 1: released last fall and look, there's no doubt that Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was one of the biggest players when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to people donating to Harvard. This man was well connected,
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  Speaker 1: well liked, and certainly well received. Now all those people
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  Speaker 1: that were clamoring around him, enjoying as large as eating
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  Speaker 1: crumbs off his table, well, now all those saying people
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  Speaker 1: want you to know that they had no idea who
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  Speaker 1: he was or what he was up to. But the
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  Speaker 1: emails blow all that shit out of the water. That
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  Speaker 1: whole entire narrative of we had no idea, and the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the song and dance that goes with it,
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't hit because these people, they were aware
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  Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein was a degenerate. And even if you
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  Speaker 1: didn't know the full scope of what he was doing,
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  Speaker 1: you knew he was up to no good, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you were getting emails from him talking about torture and
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  Speaker 1: talking about spies. It's back to school season, but many
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  Speaker 1: questions about Epstein's relationship to the Ivy League remain unanswered.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the individuals who lent Harvard prestige to the
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  Speaker 1: sex trafficker eager to wander his reputation and remain ensconced
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  Speaker 1: in elite circles maintain their positions. Well, that's because there's
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  Speaker 1: no accountability. People don't really care. The only people they
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  Speaker 1: want accountability for are their political enemies, not everybody else
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  Speaker 1: who has time to go after all of the people
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  Speaker 1: who are adjacent to Jeffrey Epstein. But the truth is,
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  Speaker 1: that's where the story is because those people that were
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  Speaker 1: helping them along the way. Without them, none of this happens.
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  Speaker 1: Do you really think that Jeffrey Epstein is as successful
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  Speaker 1: as he was doing the horrible shit he did, if
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  Speaker 1: all these people weren't helping him, if all these people
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  Speaker 1: weren't covering for him, And now those very same people
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  Speaker 1: think I give a fuck about their reputations, Well, I
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  Speaker 1: care about their reputations about as much as they care
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  Speaker 1: about the survivors or the truth. The Faculty of Arts
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  Speaker 1: and Sciences confirmed to the Daily Caller News Foundation that
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  Speaker 1: Noak remains on administrative leave, but did not respond when
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  Speaker 1: asked about the status of a formal inquiry launched nearly
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  Speaker 1: six months ago. Harvard shuddered the ped in twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: shifting its research to the Mathematics department, then reinstated Noak's
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  Speaker 1: advising and research privileges in twenty twenty three, per the
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  Speaker 1: Harvard Crimson. In February, Harvard placed Noak on administrative leave
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  Speaker 1: following the legally compelled release up three million records about
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  Speaker 1: the Epstein controversy by the Department of Justice, including the
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  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen exchange. So look, he has nobody to blame
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  Speaker 1: but himself. I mean, I don't know how many times
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  Speaker 1: I have to say it. I'm not somebody that gets
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  Speaker 1: on here and starts yapping and running his mouth about
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  Speaker 1: people unless we have evidence. But once that evidence is
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  Speaker 1: provided and they don't have a legitimate reason or excuse
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  Speaker 1: for what they were up to, you better believe. I
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  Speaker 1: have questions, But it's all predicated on evidence, right. We
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  Speaker 1: got to make sure that we have the goods at
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  Speaker 1: the very least enough inroad to get things started. And
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  Speaker 1: the good news for us is there's ample amounts of it.
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  Speaker 1: And you have to be straight up stupid at this
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  Speaker 1: point to not see that. In a statement posted to
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  Speaker 1: his website, Noa said the email referred to a video game.
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  Speaker 1: On social media, there is confusion over an email exchange
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  Speaker 1: that was released with the Epstein files. Some have missed
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  Speaker 1: that our spy was captured after completing her mission. Is
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  Speaker 1: a line from a computer game called Civilization two, a
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  Speaker 1: game I played many years ago. He said, when you
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  Speaker 1: get this response in the game, then what you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do had worked out. It's a moment of success. Strangely,
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  Speaker 1: this silly line struck with me. I sometimes think about
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  Speaker 1: it after having solved a small mathematical problem. This led
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  Speaker 1: to the email Oh yeah, I'm sure Jeffrey Epstein's hit
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  Speaker 1: to Civilization two. I'm sure he's you know, part of
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  Speaker 1: that inside joke. Save the bullshit, mister Noak. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not buying it. I have no idea what triggered Epstein's response.
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  Speaker 1: The email exchange did not refer to an actual spy.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody got captured, nobody was on a mission, and nobody
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  Speaker 1: was tortured. He continued, Well, except for all the girls
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  Speaker 1: that were tortured, except for all the spies that were
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  Speaker 1: actually on a mission. You mean besides them, right? Noak
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  Speaker 1: has not been charged with a crime. The professor did
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  Speaker 1: not reply to request for comment about his relationship to
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and the status of the form inquiry. Some of
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's contacts describe the PED as his lab. Science writer
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  Speaker 1: Robert Kuhn referred to evolutionary dynamics your program at Harvard
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  Speaker 1: in a December twenty seventeen email to Epstein, apparently referring
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  Speaker 1: to the PED as the two brainstorm topics for a
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  Speaker 1: television show on scientific topics. Look, Epstein was so involved
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  Speaker 1: in all of this that no amount of revisionist history
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  Speaker 1: is going to change it for those of us who
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  Speaker 1: know the ship is seld. And instead of trying to
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  Speaker 1: deny this bullshit, instead of trying to push it back
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  Speaker 1: into the room, you sons of bitches, might as well
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  Speaker 1: just meet it head on. That's your best bet. Other
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  Speaker 1: documents shed light on Epstein's motives for boosting Noak's lab.
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  Speaker 1: Though beneficiaries of Epstein's scientific grants like Noak, have described
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  Speaker 1: them as a curious intellectual, the convicted pedophile clearly leveraged
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  Speaker 1: his association with Novak and other scientists to improve his
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  Speaker 1: SEO and who knows what else. Look, we have to
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  Speaker 1: understand that Jeffrey Epstein was the ultimate information broker. So
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  Speaker 1: all these scientists that he was collecting, it wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: because he liked science. What were they working on? How
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  Speaker 1: many of them were working on things that were classified.
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  Speaker 1: How many of them had information scientifically speaking that would
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  Speaker 1: be profitable to a guy like Epstein. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a big part of this investigation overall that's been neglected.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we're going to start diving into that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more because I'm very interested to see
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  Speaker 1: what these scientists were working on. In twenty ten, Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was still working to bury headlines about his two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and eight Sweetheart non prosecution deal, since it shockingly lacks
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  Speaker 1: terms were first unsealed in September of two thousand and nine,
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  Speaker 1: and at least eighteen young women still had civil suits
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  Speaker 1: against them. Imagine having all that go on and being
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  Speaker 1: this snoak cat and being like, ah, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's a good He told me he didn't do anything wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I can believe him. Not so much. The smartest man
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  Speaker 1: in the room, are you so? Epstein paid made to
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  Speaker 1: launch two websites highlighting his role as scientific benefactor for
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  Speaker 1: an exclusive circle of luminaries at Science's frontier. He sought
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  Speaker 1: to bury headlines about his pedophilia with the bespoke blogs Www.
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  Speaker 1: Jeffreyepstein science dot com and www Jeffreyepstein dot org, and
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  Speaker 1: that was all controlled by al Seckel, who was married
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  Speaker 1: to one of Glenn Maxwell's sisters, and who shockingly enough
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  Speaker 1: ended up taking a header off of a cliff over
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  Speaker 1: in France. But I'm sure that was just an accident too,
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  Speaker 1: right right. Epstein's website claimed he supported the PED to
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  Speaker 1: the tune of thirty million in funding by twenty ten,
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  Speaker 1: though the university disputes that figure, placing it at six
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  Speaker 1: and a half million. Summers, then the president of Harvard,
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  Speaker 1: helped Epstein establish the lab in two thousand and three,
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  Speaker 1: alongside Harvard mathematician Benedict Gross. According to the PD website
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  Speaker 1: at that time, the name tracksaw Benedict Gross hanging out
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  Speaker 1: with the grossest man on Earth. All right, makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Summers announced his retirement in February after email's revealed years
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  Speaker 1: of frequent personal emails with Epstein. In two thousand and four,
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  Speaker 1: epstein publicist persuaded the lab to add a page dedicated
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  Speaker 1: to him on its web page, hosted on the search
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  Speaker 1: engine optimizing Harvard dot edu domain. According to a twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty fact finding report that Harvard commissioned after Epstein's twenty
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  Speaker 1: nineteen death, It would be very helpful in terms of
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  Speaker 1: Google results if his name were attached to a Harvard
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  Speaker 1: dot edu url. Epstein's publicist told Noak's lab per the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty year report. Noak agreed, of course, he did.
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  Speaker 1: Got to make sure that the golden goose keeps producing
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  Speaker 1: those golden eggs. Indeed, Epstein leverage the Ivy League to
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  Speaker 1: launder his reputation up until his August twenty nineteen death
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  Speaker 1: press brutality. Wow, will need to cure cancer to move
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  Speaker 1: this down the page, Epstein wrote in a twenty eighteen
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  Speaker 1: text exchange about funding for another Cambridge scientist, mit researcher,
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  Speaker 1: John de la Para, now at the Rockefeller Foundation. It's
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  Speaker 1: clear from the new documents that the twenty twenty report
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  Speaker 1: Harvard commissioned is incomplete. For instance, Harvard's report estimates at
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's last visit to campus occurred in October twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: while the new documents contain evidence of a November twenty
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  Speaker 1: eighteen visit. Listen, I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you that
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  Speaker 1: the Harvard internal report was a bunch of nonsense, bunch
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  Speaker 1: of fugesee nonsense, just like all these internal reports. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's investigate ourselves. That's going to really put things to
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  Speaker 1: Harvard launched a new investigation on November nineteenth, twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Six days later, Harvard added JP Morgan Asset and Wealth
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  Speaker 1: Management CEO Marry Erdos to the governing board of its endowment.
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  Speaker 1: The Harvard Crimson reported, just another Epstein adjacent, No big deal.
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  Speaker 1: We don't love Jeffrey Epstein up here at Harvard. Erdos
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  Speaker 1: was in constant contact with Epstein while he was one
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  Speaker 1: of JP Morgan's wealthiest clients. According to a November nineteenth
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  Speaker 1: Senate memo, she played a key role and ensuring Epstein
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  Speaker 1: remained a client, pushing back on compliance officers who raised
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  Speaker 1: concerns about signs of money laundering. According to The New
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  Speaker 1: York Times, and not just the New York Times, this
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  Speaker 1: was found out also by the USVII when they had
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  Speaker 1: their lawsuit against JP Morgan. Mary Erdos's name was all
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  Speaker 1: over it. But yet she's getting this gig over at Harvard.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's transactions should have raised concerns about sex trafficking two,
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  Speaker 1: namely three million in direct payments to women or girls,
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  Speaker 1: including accounts in Russia. Belarus, Turkmenistan, Latvia, and Lithuania, according
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  Speaker 1: to a Senate investigation released earlier this month. So what
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  Speaker 1: it really comes down to is that university is like Harvard.
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  Speaker 1: They don't really care. They don't care that Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was a gigantic part of their ecosystem. What they care
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  Speaker 1: about is that you know, and that's what they can't
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  Speaker 1: abide by. That's why they have to act like they
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  Speaker 1: are doing something right because people are hip to it now.
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  Speaker 1: But if Harvard really cared, do you think they'd be
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  Speaker 1: hiring somebody like Mary Erdos And do you think they'd
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  Speaker 1: keep somebody like mister Noak on staff even if he's
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  Speaker 1: on leave or whatever. Of course not, they'd cut ties
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  Speaker 1: and they'd move on. But I guess Harvard has other ideas.
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