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Emerald FlowShow #112: Fourth Time's a Charm · The Emerald FlowShow

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to episode 112 of the M.O.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm drawing it back with Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul, we're just talking off an arrow like...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about you, but getting into this, I caught up like, yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would dare, there is a lot of stuff to catch up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I didn't set a date for us to record, I'm not sure what I would have caught up with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, also luckily, I canceled my trip to WXW weekend, because otherwise, we would have actually got an extra trouble finding a data record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, literally just realized that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, wait a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We couldn't have done this if I hadn't canceled the trip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So was this because I haven't looked at the two closer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just some things, but is this because Ali catch was there you decided to cancel and I had already canceled, but I'll have it did make me feel better about cancel But you also miss knock this is the weekend that Akka Jim is going, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is, so one of the, like, and that was my main motivation of going, but then I just put up buying it, take it forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I'm going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to really mention, eventually I just had to face it, but it's like, I kind of don't want to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, not a dreamer would have been a main draw for me, but then I'm also like, like, it would be, it's going to be fun to see him that environment, but also, I've literally seen him against Ken Tamia in the fucking Yo-Yogi, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like no matter what he's going to do, dare it's not going to beat that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, did you really want to like spend an entire weekend in Oberhausen?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I would have had to stay in Oberhausen as well, because this is a dog has a backstreet voice concert sort of to tell so expensive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So going to a bunch of shows where I'm like, okay, I'm excited for like one guy's match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the rest of it is just
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[SPEAKER_01]: doesn't look that exciting like this weekend just like I did it last year and I have to say it's just again as we're going to talk about I think good segue like it's very very bloated because it's just free tournaments going on at the same time so you can really get into like each individual one all that much so and I think that that I think that kind of nicely like leads us over into like other stuff we're going to talk about actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we have turned this to talk about, but first I will just say I did watch and it was the only thing from the show I watched.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I watched the KOD open-away telematch between now, Hubonari Abe, which went 19-14 with now winning with the ghetto clutch sort of reversal out of an octopus hold.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not watch the subsequent stuff which involved illusion being to cocky for the right to challenge anywhere and then challenging now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you didn't what you didn't a god of us is true nakiyama i didn't know which only went uh... what nine seconds oh no oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, yeah, cuz didn't go into the second seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I saw it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably because I looked at that at first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, we didn't watch it like a 12 minute match between Eugene and Gajan during a gamma and like, no, it was 12 o'clock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the Yes, I was like, I thought I saw something as social media or in the discord, the view of you discord.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was like, this is only a nine second wall up thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, oh, well, I'm not gonna.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, okay, that's like whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if that was a proper match, I'm like, yeah, I don't watch that, but no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I would recommend, you know, because it's only like the match that I mean, or quote unquote this main event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A wet 19 14, it's worth checking out like kind of like, I don't know how to describe what you would expect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, versus I'll be to be with like crazy reversal that a little comedy thrown in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd go like four star range max, not going to knock your socks off, but it's a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just thought I would add that because,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I suppose in some ways you could argue that it under delivered, but it didn't like, I don't know how to describe this like, so I don't feel like it under delivered, but I also feel like this could have been, I suppose, hypothetically better, but I don't think that's that's the problem with a lot of my will matches, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also don't feel like ripped off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but yeah, it's worth checking out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just thought I would make a quick mention of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, I feel like this is something that we would be into because great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's going to do to see it, as soon as she works as Kazan Yuki Fujita, I don't know how to come to the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as I have dubbed it in the discord, what if the unstoppable force meets the very easily moved object?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And people are basically taking bets like how quick the match is going to be, where Mike Spears put you over under, I think on like three minutes for D, which I call very generous, and people were like, I don't think he's going to get as much time as like Oda Shima did last year, and that was a one minute time limit draw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it a one minute time when you tried was a fight was it there was a one minute time let me draw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay Yeah, he might get a little more than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think he gets five minutes so I feel like that could happen Hi, I could see them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean five minutes of things feels like a fair like Yes, yeah, I thought it also very well could just be like Fujita goes in just like elbow checks and power bombs
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[SPEAKER_01]: he's usually literally still doing what it was doing as like a young boy like 10 years ago and uh not has not moved the fucking engine as career at such a waste, that's I hate it remember when he was feeling with me a horror?
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[SPEAKER_00]: yeah, why is I feeling with me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: again like when great form that was like oh yeah you're gonna be a guy and yeah I know um you was Zuka obviously known for getting beaten up and shoot fights but didn't he also get beaten up as you fight or my dream yeah yeah he had a I pretty sure he had an MMA match yeah yeah but it wasn't he to one that threw up I see I feel like he was super a Zuka
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, yeah, so he had one on the great version Mega, he had an MMA match, where he lost to Akirugono in round 3.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, round 3 is respected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, but I was that the one where he threw, I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was definitely somebody that had an MMA fight, and then threw up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm very distinctly remember that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see, I, it, Izuka and Izuki sort of blurring together for me because it's, yes, that, like, yes, young talented guys, I just get the shot and crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And meet up, both, they both started up in Hido, but as well, like that doesn't help you, Hido.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's that, you know, Izuki is managed to keep going, well, Izuka, obviously is very beat up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to take like a whole year off and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there we're going to move into our first tournament that we have to discuss, which is the end one, which isn't even over yet, although it's literally on, it's literally on my TV right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're going to give us a quick brief update of today's show, which I, for now, I for some reason, I think there was another show Saturdays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so we start off we go all the way back almost two weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's see oh my god Only two weeks ago this feels like it's been going on forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is so much longer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Back to cork and haul in front of 1492 fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a pretty good number for them on a show with no data
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that too and I mean as I was cool guys definitely like I'm much at as anticipated amongst like no Heart course, but I don't think it's like like kuga isn't really known to like non-no offense It like it's not like like oh Zava fingers a guy that you can draw if you put them on a post I think kuga is that I don't think kuga is at that level yet
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we start off the show with your shiki and MRI defeating you, you know, 1042 with the discharge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this is a good little, uh, hospital as we were sort of expecting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think way to like open the tournament as well to like get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People enter it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just have to people just like slam into each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes So actually now that I think of it probably going back to matches kind of crazy Sure about a show is that we've got but like what else caught your attention on this show or Yeah, I mean I actually like Shane Hayes for this cuz you could food each so did I
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[SPEAKER_01]: like that was that was that was really fun like again like Fujita doing a job like on night one two in Corrican Hall it is to a former champion but still like I think that was noteworthy otherwise I mean the main event obviously can I just yeah can of his title that was very good
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've probably tied as the best match of the whole tournament.
11:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the thing I think Tidus is one of those guys that has very much kind of gotten lost and the shuffle in the whole tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I thought maybe this would be like a breakout for him, but kind of hasn't been to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think the problem of Tidus is like he's obviously a guy with a lot of talent, but then he's kind of just being at the same, like he hasn't really shown much progression over like the last like two to three years, which is right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The wrong time for him to not do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're trying to put it in for a long time, how would she be in Japan for a while?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When normally people then you see the improvement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you just compare, we'll all spray a pre-japan and then after he was in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like a night and day in terms of wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Titus hasn't really done that step that leap yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, also a couple of things that's worth noting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, maybe we're starting to get a can't tell which started, uh, can't just big, uh, fat losing streak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, losing streak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was actually one of the more fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, for a length of the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, uh, KO Alpha Wolf, uh, nice little match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about, um, Chen versus Sugura because I thought this did a very good job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All things considered using the team 2000 X format actually get the baby face over because obviously Chen was an unknown quantity came out and pressed the crowd with his like I don't know negative 5% body fat
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you don't see, I thought he's been looking good like I don't think he's like a blowaway worker Oh, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very solid seems to be like I don't think it seems to be getting over of the crowd too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I thought that this was a good Not that I mean love with feels to girl in team 2000 acts, but he did his job properly here, and Structure this properly is like him beating up your shintatsu was obviously gonna get him over with a big pot
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, no, I think like this is what you use like a heel for basically, especially someone like Securer where let's be honest like he's not pushed anymore like he just he just isn't a push entity anymore He's just he's just a guy on the he's just a body on the roster now unfortunately
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so let's go back to the made event Osawa versus Kruga because obviously this is like the big Kruga coming out party and uh, I'm digging him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome kicks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, I mean, obviously it makes sense, like you just have to think about, like, okay, when was he like in the dojo and like who was there at the time and everything?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, like who would he have been like watching like at ringside and everything or would have been like, uh, go and and Nakajima?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that does make a lot of sense that he takes some influence from them, but I also have to say, like, he kind of makes us have a look worse as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I was very high gunnow zawa, but he's clearly stalled out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at least in ring-wise, there's no question about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this, who could just ask me to turn it only?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's turnin' only for the, like, drove it from, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but talking about Taita's not really taking another step.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Ozava very much is not taking another step in this tournament at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not stepping up really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, he's getting too comfortable gliding on the gimmick for sure, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he needs to leave that faction yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's obviously not going to happen now before like the end of the tournament, but who knows?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just, he needs to get out of team 2,000 eggs and he just needs to like, Like maybe who are coming in and kind of like, you know, like looking as good as he does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's like something that will like light a fire on the him to actually be like, Okay, maybe he should actually try what we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then we go on to the 14th at Okuyama, Conducia Center in front of 388 fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of these spot shows not drawing that big like, you know, in the 500's ranges.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And nor are they being, uh, sort of, um, called supernovae currencies either, so I find that a little interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess, like, that's a very small building too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no, there's no, it doesn't really draw many places out of Tokyo, even though they have been hotter in the last couple of years, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they aren't really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I have what I also have, I think one of my criticisms of the tournament is that the crowds aren't good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, not Trump's, like watch people, but like in terms of like, like their energy level is so low.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They get really makes, like, I think it actually makes some of the matches look worse than they actually are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just because the crowd is so quiet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fair, definitely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's okay, I'm a show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did, I mean, I liked Fujita versus Chen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what it's got, simply enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sugira versus Eno was actually a little disappointing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, that really was like, what I was looking for, but I think it's just have to like lower expectations for Sugira as a mattress unfortunately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I don't know if it's a gimmick, or if it just doesn't give a shit, or if he's just his body can't do it anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Alpha Wolf versus Inamura solid and then Kumi versus Hastin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like good solid mean event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I feel like to be this tournament I will say is only further solidifying my love of Shane Ace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, no, Heathgrade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a nice top 20 finish in my office on 50 US for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I would say like it's either him or Kenno as like the MVP of the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then like Eno for it probably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think soy up there too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cougar, Cougar too, like that's the feeling that the kind of turns into a bit of a glut there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like it's clearly like haste and like can't understand, I would say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be a little, um, finally I didn't say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, more and cue me have been good too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a little up and down I suppose that and then on the 15th at Kumamoto Castle Hall Civic Castle Hall Civic Hall and for a 590 fans we had Masakitamiya defeating Titus Alexander in the Strangleholds Gamma which is like this is completely forgettable and when both guys sort of like disappearing to the ether of the turn yeah yeah Masakitamiya is like such absolute nothing in the
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a couple of matches where I'm like, okay, he's kind of getting my attention, but he, he, you know, this is a lot of it is not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then Matt, it was sort of a defeat of Osawa with the Dandel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, like, we too forgettable for what these guys should have been able to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially the head like a blood flute earlier in the year and yeah, this isn't so last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it's not dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's being like it's kuma motor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't give it shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cano defeat a kuga in 1235 by referee stop now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was good in that other like good performance kuga and everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the kind of special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Tetsuya and Oversus Kenta, in 1716 with the modified shooting star press, it was fine, but again like, I don't know, and also trapped in the ether.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Kentus trying, well, yeah, no, I mean, Kentus, Kentus, arguably had like one of the best mattress in the tournament with Keno.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I also wrote that later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, and also just lost in the ether.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although, there wasn't and don't match against the surprising component that I did sort of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tettis Alexander also now we go to her Hiroshima Industrial Hall East Exhibition Hall on the 17th in front of 482 fans Tettis Alexander defeated Kugun 1036 with a big ugly that was solid Tetsuya Endo defeated Keto 229 with the horizontal cradle I mean it was fun while it lasted but this was a night off of these kinds for whatever Yeah this was just complete nothing I was really disappointed I was one of the endometrics I was really looking forward to
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know, I just, interesting, like, why, like, who said, let's have a night off?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, maybe Catta was like, I don't want to deal with this guy or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe one of them was like a bit banged up as well, and they were like, okay, let's cut the short.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and then B-block Ozawa defeated Kento in 1309 with the backside and this is one of the backside just got very annoying to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm like, okay, you know what you beat Cougar with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a nice little tricky little thing that when you do Yeah, especially when you have Cougar returning and everything like that so You know, I'm not gonna give him the win over Zava that makes sense But you also don't want him to look weak so you do the backslight finish and that's fine.
19:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now it's just becoming very
20:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, that's just, yeah, it's like really like, I mean, if it's especially for doing like this whole like losing storyline with Kenna, then like Kenna's beat him definitively, like it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, um, mean, if that must have killed it, we were so bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and kill me on the diving center, I actually did think this was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've put it right up to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got to kill me as better match for this trip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was a main event.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that might have helped us motivation levels, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the 20th that you made a sky building Stella Hall in front of 500 fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was a supernova agency for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had Alpha Wolf defeated Kazan.
20:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You keep for gated in 557 with the horizontal cradle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's which is I want to celebrate for gated doing a bunch of jobs.
20:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like this was a waste of a job.
20:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what absolutely was stuff at all.
20:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what, this actually reminded me of, it's like when I did the same thing with like Wagner Jr.
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I hear a Wagner talk about Wagner Jr.
21:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, you know, it was Andy and one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, that would lead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wish, would you show this for a question to blow you down?
21:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that wouldn't even, like, whether what he was even pinned.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can feel very similar to that.
21:15
[SPEAKER_00]: But this also had like interference and stuff, so which is why Apple is put you in 557.
21:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And look, if you have put you to say, I'll do what I don't know, three jobs in this tournament, four jobs in this tournament, to pick the more carefully.
21:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Apple doesn't really do anything.
21:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for watching.
21:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for watching.
21:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
21:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, um, a chain defeated Jukeeno in 1942 with the exclamation mark.
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this was a good solid match.
21:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, yeah, I'm keep bringing Chad back.
21:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I just think he has potential.
21:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He just needs more reps. And he can do some really great looking stuff.
21:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Just to put it all together.
21:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, definitely.
21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think it's ever going to be like a top guy or anything like that because I think he just doesn't have the, like, carisma.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's serious with that.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, yeah, no, he's absolutely guy that you can just like keep bringing back and I think he's going to like improve and like when he gets more apps and everything.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it gets like because he could already see it in this tournament where he just kind of like puts things together a bit more like it's not clean essentially.
22:15
[SPEAKER_00]: A, so, um, next up, Kado Kimiya defeated Takashi Tsugiri 1232 with the Skawak Albo.
22:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was fine, but also, you know, you just gotta, you gotta, gotta, certainly not the word, like, this is like a middling tournament match, but it's just like, you know, I mean, at this much one of the bigger, I mean, that's also the other thing, like, this is in, like, Osaka.
22:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I have, like, a little bit of higher expectations as well.
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So, main event though, your Shiki and Amard feed a Shane Hayes in 1757 with the discharge, good stuff, right?
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Another, yeah, or beef to a beef to a great chemistry, yeah, they do, yeah.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So, obviously one of the better matches of the tournament, and just like, hey, you know, these are the two guys that are holding it down.
23:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we go to the 21st, at Toku Jin Tumoni Arena, or
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: From 854 fans, this is one of their bigger, sort of, outside talking stops.
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think actually, I think we're missing a show.
23:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're missing a show where, um, we're Kaito and in a Murad Roo.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, um, you're right.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You're looking at it, right?
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, because Kaito has seven in a more as five, so this is after that show happened.
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Why was the date of that?
23:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, must have been... Oh, was the 16th.
23:40
[SPEAKER_01]: The 16th, okay.
23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so hold out.
23:43
[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
23:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just gonna toss it in the run sheet here.
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's go back to this.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so on this 60th of Acros Fukuloka About 596 bands we had Sugira defeating Fujita in 9.50 while with the inside cradle look I get it Fujita will be willing to put over Sugira
24:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which again.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, nothing to do.
24:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, but I'd say again like feed at a bunch of bullshit and yeah, of course, I just hope that this doesn't mean that food you're just gonna do it And it was a few to two thousand eggs.
24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what if he joins team to first
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.
24:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll put Wolf to feed you, you know, in 11 17 with the Pesadilla solid match.
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought and then we get to the top two Shane Hayes to feed the 10 and 12 19 with the air's rock bottom solid definitely solid.
24:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, with forced and I thought why I think that this works so well is they could just WWE it.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just kind of do a fairly perfunctory like perfectly acceptable poor wrestling match.
24:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I thought it was good.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I know it was it was it was.
24:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But like you have Shane Hayes that's worked like a ton of like guys like that while he wasn't WM.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And then kind of key to me versus your shiki in a more Tamil draw 30 minutes.
25:04
[SPEAKER_00]: It was good, but I mean these guys tip to everything off
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go back to the figure.
25:13
[SPEAKER_01]: To be taking a lot of time on these things, yeah.
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It is one of those matches where it ends in a time and a draw.
25:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But to hide it, they do a bunch of crazy stuff early on to make it think, oh, it's going to be a short match.
25:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, nope, you're very clearly worth.
25:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going like you're conserving your energy for like 30 minutes.
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I do be fair.
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I did like the finish though with like in a mirror having kind of up for like the power bomb.
25:40
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was good, it just tipped it off, so that sort of like, you know, no, that hurt, you know, like I said, I don't like time limit draws.
25:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
25:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, I thought that Cantor versus Anzion, the Champion Carnival, was much less of a tip off.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that one they did work more like a normal match and it was like this one was very much like a kth of like okay You're not working this like you normally would but something's up.
26:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
26:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So back to the Toku jinn tomorrow arena Ozawa defeated Titus Alexander in 1021 with the real rebel.
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of those matches where like it's fine But like you were expected more from these guys.
26:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, there was their limitation
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, these are like two guys.
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, obviously it was always like a champion, everything.
26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, these are still, there's still kind of in the mode of like, no, you want, you're wanting to show off and neither really.
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Osarva was very much coasting and tied a cell exam address.
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he didn't work this like a match.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you would work a match against the guy that is basically the biggest star on the entire company.
26:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just, it was a car placing too, like, look, I got you know, Titus is still just like a lower mean corner guy, but I know, I just felt like this should have happened.
26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I feel like even more if you try to sell Xander, you should want to show off more.
27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So that next time they're not going to put you like this far down, they don't put all of your matches this far down the card.
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They actually get more time to show off.
27:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next box though, cool good defeat of Masakidami in 98 with the back slide, which is a nice little call back to Ozzawa and I like this.
27:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a good field good big first win against Kuga.
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's obviously like, you know, he is like Kidami is a guy that obviously is a guy you have to go over if you're going to move up the card.
27:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I thought this was obviously one of the Kidami is better matches just in terms of like what this match set out to do.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: and it did it for my stable mate as well.
27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I know, especially because I think it I mean, I was unbeaten in the tournament up until this point.
27:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, cool guy like ending that win streak as well.
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, like, it was just really well-boked kind of like, piece of business, yeah.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then Sammy Maynivan, Tetsuya, and don't defeat a minute.
28:00
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw it in 1347 with the shooting star press, which I will give to endo because this is one of his better matches.
28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And it turns into a...
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah though it was like that that one was really really good just like both my like worked hard and everything and just like I like to finish as well with Ken Otruth being like nah nah nah you like you're fucking tapping out man.
28:20
[SPEAKER_00]: This was definitely one of the better main events, too, because of the main event, Kenobi is going to count in 2352 with the Kenobi special, and what can I say these guys obviously have this great chemistry as we all know and everything once Kenobi returned, so this was kept it up there, and Kenobi got some revenge from this 24-hour J.C. Tettlery.
28:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
28:43
[SPEAKER_00]: to be fair that was entirely self-inflicted yes all things considered yes that's right I think it's actually one of the better ships at the turn yeah no it really was actually and then on the 22nd in the act city have a Matsu we had to Kashi Sugira defeating Alpha Wolf in 1923 with the hurricane Ronette which again was like well what is going on here
29:08
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, nothing to it.
29:10
[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, no, this show very much does, like, yeah.
29:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then in a morrow defeated, Chen in 11.
29:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, five with the discharge again, like, Chen's having his better back, just the WWE guy.
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, too, if it makes sense, like, they know each other and everything.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I assume Chen is here because, like, he knows in a morrow.
29:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he knows in a month and then Shane Hayes to feed you can you know in 1225 but there's rock bottom, which again, good match.
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what we'll talk about I guess MVP's of the tournament so far in a bit and then kind of give me a defeated catcher.
29:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You could put you in 1404 with the skywalk elbow, which look, this was the right booking.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, this was not a waste to chop.
29:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he takes a proper, takes a proper pin as well.
30:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and like, look, it would have been cool if this was in like a bigger stage and everything, but I actually did like this match.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It just, no, I wouldn't have had better heat.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, like, I don't know, like, two years ago, like, this wouldn't have been the finish, like, like, either if we did, I would have gone, or like, it would have been a roll-up again, but like, I think.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's that maybe kind of finally gets a bit of respect.
30:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we move on to September 23rd at Corrigard Hall in front of 1,326 fans.
30:29
[SPEAKER_00]: This is down from the opening night, but...
30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll think considering if you're coming back here in the middle of the tournament, that's, I don't think that's a bad number at all.
30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, on the one hand, I actually think it's nice when Noah has gotten with, like, Hurricane attendance is that I can actually say that I find this number disappointing.
30:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like it was nice.
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it there when, when Osama was on fire as the champion?
30:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it doing a couple of Hawkins that really shit the bad because there was, like, no title matches on them or something?
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: No, like those basically they basically sold all the hurricanes at that time.
31:03
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but when he was on top of the show, maybe.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But still, like I think I'm more comparing it to where we were.
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know, like two or three is like the drakely era.
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what they were trying like hurricane compared to that like this now.
31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's very different.
31:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I would say that I did find this number a little disappointing because, okay, it is a mid week show.
31:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was a bank holiday, right, it was this like silver week in Japan at the time.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and you did have a fairly big match with Kanohan to Zawa on top.
31:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I would have expected that this draws a bit more closer to like what the, uh, would like the opener drew as well, but still like it's a good number overall.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying I'm a little disappointed.
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what, if you disappointed about one phone, 300 fans of Kirk and I think you're in a good spot.
31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, like almost 400, like eight or way from 400, it's not like, no, it's absolutely not the best.
32:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, speaking of Jake Lee, he now looks like he's part of uptown.
32:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen his latest outfit?
32:06
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they see like does he have like a big like fake hair and every like no like multicolored types and everything that would actually be a big league yeah yeah like somebody somebody has to lead to clown fraction and dragon gate and take the open the dream gate off of KZ
32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He is that home God.
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say like that is like a that is a finishing spot for him I wonder if he's too tall and and drink it won't take him Yeah, probably because I think Kai is about as tall as you're allowed to be to be a dog If you're a foreigner you can be tall, but
32:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, seemingly, but that's a, that's a new thing as well.
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, because like Brody Lee was there and, uh, but not like long-term, the way, like, John Evaleta is.
32:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true, too.
32:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, we have to get in our, our Jake with.
32:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, of course, it legally meant we're not going to have a breakdown of like the art of the of the Joker gimmick and then and how he uses the negative space Although, you know, let us know in the video that you discord if you want to have that here that it's got really if really is about what he does between the moves
33:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay, so we get to this show, um, I'm sorry.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this did 1390.
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It did 1326.
33:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was for their way for 1480.
33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
33:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So Titus Alexander defeated Tetsuya and actually, just, let's pick that kind of talk about the, the, the, the map, right.
33:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that was, that was before the tournament match.
33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's start that.
33:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
33:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so Tetsuya,
33:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in 66, because some mysterious, uh, new Trent heels member in a rescue mode.
33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It's mysterious, phantom invader.
33:57
[SPEAKER_01]: MPI.
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Mysterious screen invader, yes.
34:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Not X or XX.
34:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope, it's mysterious.
34:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a dream of it.
34:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a dream of it.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a dream of it.
34:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what are your thoughts on this?
34:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like I am actually kind of a battle that nobody seems to have figured this out yet.
34:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not that I have figured it out, like I have no idea who this is.
34:21
[SPEAKER_01]: What's funny to me?
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, if you compare that to how quickly the looter dog had figured out that all the pan brought in and he's an absolute nobody,
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it has to be somebody off like name value because he's gonna beat my Fuji for the national title At the fact that nobody has figured that one out yet is actually quite interesting Well, we have to sort of take it a consideration that we had like no tattoos or no nipples to examine
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We really only have like a bit of hair.
34:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We do have his eyes, but yeah, it's really about it.
34:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I never really spent much time actually thinking about who it is, because I don't, I don't know.
35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't know.
35:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, now did they say it was a foreigner or
35:05
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but she just looked, I don't know, just build-wise.
35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, yeah, I didn't say it was a foreigner.
35:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but it did kind of imply that it is somebody that, like, basically, LTG knows.
35:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it can't be a former LIJ member, like, because, like, those are all either still a new Japan.
35:25
[SPEAKER_01]: or they are with WWE so they're out like it's obviously like yeah I don't think any of them would even fit like built in a hide-wise so put my best guess then would be it is a former New Japan guy if it is somebody they know yeah I really also have like no idea okay what I will say though there is something about his mannerisms that does seem familiar to me
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can't place it.
35:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know who he reminds me of.
35:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, this seems familiar, but it just, no, nothing will connect, basically.
36:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Besides, just this vague sense of, it seems familiar to me.
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, okay, that was a cool furniture, too.
36:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I just had the finish of in a mirror versus Fujita and Fujita has this boiler for you, I guess.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Fujita just showed the absolute life out of in a mirror for the finish.
36:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was a good match overall, like it was actually like it wasn't a quick match either.
36:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this was a proper good long match and then Fujita just chopped them the fuck out to for the finish.
36:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So back, so Titus out there to feed Titus and though in 904 with the big ugly, I actually thought this was good.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It was good, it didn't get a lot of time though.
36:44
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that was the big thing.
36:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they decided to put a junior title match on this show.
36:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, again, Cougar defeat a manibus say in 410 or 4 with the FOK.
36:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd have a good match that could have got it.
36:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really liked this one actually.
37:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I did one definitely should have gotten more time.
37:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was like, yeah, this is actually kind of cool and Cougar's really coming to it into his own like, it like now basically.
37:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
37:10
[SPEAKER_00]: He looked more confident, kicks even even better.
37:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they look good at the beginning.
37:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I get so Zala, but even better now.
37:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Block B, can't take defeat in Massachusetts, hit me in 1127 with the horizontal cradle.
37:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, here's five.
37:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's perfectly serviceable.
37:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it existed for sure.
37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, given that this was the fucking like title match coming out of the end one last year, it's kind of,
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a pretty good.
37:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
37:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, gee, gee, gee, you're heavyweight title.
37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Kai Fuji-Morning defeated our 1809 with the Death Hanger.
37:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And first, to make us first defense and guess what?
37:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You can probably telegraph this match in your head.
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, lots of bullshit.
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of bullshit, obviously, like, you know, Alejandro getting all of his big fluries of,
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: author and hope spots and then of course the team 2000 exposure right so yeah you know and yeah I thought it was better I mean I then did like I definitely seen Various matches out of the feud like I thought this was actually one of the better ones that they've had but it still wasn't great no no it just I don't think you really needed on this show
38:22
[SPEAKER_01]: No, this show had a lot of stuff on it already, like, yes, it's really just, that could have used it.
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like, it probably, like, if you don't have this, then you can probably give more time to Kubibra's Manavusoya and like, tie the same Xanderras endo.
38:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
38:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in the middle of that carrot field, Osawa in 1857 with the Endrin.
38:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And, well, this made me think that Osawa was like, oh, man, this guy's a star.
38:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
38:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this is like the Ozot how Ozot well.
38:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean look credit to Keno because Keno's Keno, but like this is the kind of actually like yeah Ozawa Yeah, that's the thing.
38:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so fit but that's makes it almost more frustrating when we get out of him normally.
39:02
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing But it's like no we know this guy is still in there and he's just doesn't do it for whatever reason
39:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and that brings us to today the 25th Sendai Pit.
39:15
[SPEAKER_00]: So take it away and Paul, what have you seen from this show?
39:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So from this show, I've seen, basically, I've seen Yuki Universe Kaitakeemia, which tab one was really, really good.
39:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's the first one of the whole tournament.
39:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's basically, it's also the thing of, like, well, Kaito would have just won the block outright.
39:34
[SPEAKER_01]: If he went here.
39:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, no, this was just really good, like, heart-hitting action between, like, you know, just like,
39:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You could feel the desperation and you know, as well, well, like he hasn't won a single match in this tournament at all, so far.
39:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's always up against, like, kind of fucking kill me, uh, and he just, like, throws everything he has at him, and then he eventually actually, like, gets to spear, and, like, gets to win.
39:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is actually one of my favorite matches of the whole tournament so far.
40:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this, this has been pretty damn good.
40:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch Alphavals defeating Chen.
40:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see that match because I just went straight to Eno versus Kiyomiya and then I kind of just let the show play.
40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, then yeah, I just talked about like Fujita version of Mura.
40:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I, again, I liked that one as well, like when the 11, uh, yeah, but nearly 12 minutes.
40:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Just...
40:24
[SPEAKER_01]: again really good like just they were just beating the shit out of each other like again that's the thing with Fujita like when he's in there with somebody that like can do like to stand up game with him he's pretty good and did that here as well and then you know as much as I always criticize Fujita when he does like Matt work I think that worked really well here because it kind of showed like okay in a mirror is just better and is younger and better
40:47
[SPEAKER_01]: then like Fujita at like brawling.
40:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So Fujita then like takes it to the ground and then chokes in a mirror of the fuck out.
40:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I thought was like a pretty cool finish.
40:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I can't say much about Shane Hayes versus Takeshi Sigura because it's on right now and it literally started like 30 seconds ago.
41:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know how it's going to end, but I can't tell you anything about the magic.
41:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't tell you, I can't literally do a live move by move like commentary over it,
41:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, this could be Seger's best match to the tournament.
41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had a very real chance of being as fast-match in the tournament, yeah.
41:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, oh no, there's your shithats that never might be the fighting behind the corner.
41:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, it's funny because like, yeah, main event against one of the best.
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that too.
41:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, that would be the thing.
41:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So the standing's after the 25th and how many shows and lots, let's see.
41:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Not, I think basically just one, right?
41:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're basically done.
41:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we got 25.
41:52
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we got two more.
41:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a show on tomorrow and Sunday.
41:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think because they split, it's because they split up by blocks.
41:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so basically we have like one more for like each block essentially.
42:03
[SPEAKER_00]: No, tomorrow's show is all block B.
42:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And then some of this show is out.
42:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a full like just and one eight match.
42:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's everybody.
42:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
42:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so like, let's look at, okay, so let's look at this.
42:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do this.
42:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's look at the latino.
42:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do the standings first.
42:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
42:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I so I block a cow key me a nine chain hasten off a wolf eight in a more seven Fujitas six, Chen four, Sugira four, and you know two block beat, kiddo me a six, Ozawa six, and those six, 10 times.
42:34
[SPEAKER_00]: He's six, right?
42:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was six,
42:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So Kenta is the only one that's mathematically eliminated, I guess?
42:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I don't know how to type break us break down if like Soya and Google, like, yeah, I'm not going to do that, but you block so you got Kenovers' story out, which seems kind of important.
42:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't oversteal, it's like Soya is going to take out Keno there.
43:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Keno versus Titus, which feels like a Ken to stop.
43:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't that takes a child us and no versus Kruga is probably going to be important because they're both it I mean again, that that's probably Kruga takes out end of then so then you have to be a person here for Yeah, but that was all we'd skid them here and then was all about going through yeah
43:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, probably not.
43:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and over so Zawa feels like and it's going to knock Zawa out unless it's out unless okay, but he is actually is actually something what if Kitamiya beats a Zawa right yeah, and then can it takes out Kitamiya and then Ozawa be Zendo, but then but then Ozawa's only at eight and Kitamiya is the typewriter of him that doesn't work either and then soy ever
44:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, I made a quote also just the Osava wins out and just wins the whole block.
44:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like it's gonna be either Osawa or Kenu.
44:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's Osawa or Kenu.
44:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think pretty sure, like, I'm not.
44:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still like a way for, but I don't think they're gonna let Kuga go through, like, and then that gets a lot for, like, it's not on the last, last show.
44:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We got kind of over 10, which, well, I mean, yeah, but that feels like, because I think if Kai do wins, then he just wins the block outright.
44:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you only have one.
44:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like Chen takes a kite, so then so Ozawa's winning then, because that feels like if Chen is the one taking out kite, then kaito isn't winning the block.
44:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Ozawa's not in the block.
44:43
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but then I mean, but because we were like kite either kaito or Ozawa is winning the tournament.
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: What if Kaito isn't even making the final, then Ozawa's obviously the one winning the tournament?
44:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now we have in a Mara vs. Sugaera, which feels like that could be a spoiler too possibly.
44:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, he's going to be a big 8 vs. 8.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that actually determines the wind's to block there.
45:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So I assume that in that case, I will Mike is for the final, would be Shane Hayes for the Zawa.
45:13
[SPEAKER_00]: oh that's a good point um that's a very good bite and then Ozawa gets his wind back as well great um but you know versus Fujita and then that's not gonna be meaning anything no um yeah Ace versus Ozawa final that is um
45:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it hopefully should be better because I'd argue haste first singles match so far, but okay, maybe not as far as, but like out of his title match was like Osawa.
45:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly, it's the weakest, I'll say, you know.
45:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:48
[SPEAKER_00]: But do you want to go to Osawa versus NATO already?
45:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess, right?
45:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Because then, because that means Kaito is the one that beats NATO,
45:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you mean, I don't know the news because because I already beat No, yeah, right, so you can have a novel news and then kaito beats Naito on the New Year's Eve show.
46:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean it makes sense.
46:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like because I think kaito winning the tournament and then losing to Naito Like like you already lost to Naito.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That just yeah, yeah, you're right, make sense.
46:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure that
46:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the thing.
46:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it makes more sense for us to kind of like He wins the tournament, but then he comes up short against Naito and then He gets kicked out of the faction or whatever.
46:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
46:39
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be the ideal course of action.
46:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
46:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so okay.
46:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So who are your standouts of this tournament?
46:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have to go with Shane Hayson.
46:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's Shane Hayson.
46:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
46:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Hello.
46:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, you know, so yeah.
46:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And then kiddo, I would also give it to me and uh, in a murder deserve.
46:58
[SPEAKER_00]: In a murder, yeah, for sure.
47:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we'll, we'll give a special gold starter food to eat up and putting his, well, kind of putting his shoulders down on the bad, but yes.
47:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I think who goes well, right?
47:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he could, oh yeah, I'm going like confidence throw to tournament.
47:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I would say about the tournament, right?
47:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it had like a very, very high floor.
47:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there wasn't really like, there wasn't a single match for I thought this was bad.
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there was some matches that were kind of boring, but I never really thought like, ah, this was this was shit.
47:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also feel like the ceiling wasn't super high either.
47:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Then had the downside, it just made a lot of these shows feel like very, very samey, because they were also all like pretty small buildings too.
47:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they all work the same like it didn't jim someone.
47:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, I liked to, I liked to turn them into roll, but it also like just, yeah, it feels like it feels like a bit of a slog.
47:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I thought was for, yeah, I don't know.
47:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is weird, because again, it's not a bad turn event, it's just, it feels so
48:01
[SPEAKER_00]: mm-hmm.
48:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So with that, we move on to all Japan Pro Wrestling, the World Road Tournament.
48:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It began on September 9th, which seems so long ago now after all these shows that we watched.
48:18
[SPEAKER_00]: In Shinagawa, Prince Hotel Stella Ball, in front of 775 fans,
48:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Timothy Dacher, defeated Khadecki Suzuki in 1524 with the Fuji Aura Armbar.
48:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought this was great.
48:37
[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't going to be for everyone.
48:40
[SPEAKER_00]: But look, this is what I was expecting from these two when they delivered this and I love the finish of that.
48:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's very much box-spotted to the Fuji Aura Armbar to get the signature.
48:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That was really fucking cool.
48:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I am obviously, I'm a big fan of fatter.
48:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I love this.
48:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, especially him and the air with like, he-de-key, where it's like, they just always feel like they're like, you know, like, they're not, they're obviously not brothers, but they feel like they are.
49:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It was very, very similar in terms of all of the influences and everything, which is obviously why they, like, gel well together and why, like, fatress here in the first place and everything.
49:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it's actually another thing where I was thinking, it's like, oh, fatress here, so you can have a match with Suzuki.
49:24
[SPEAKER_01]: But tomorrow I think about it, and tomorrow it's watching another match.
49:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, actually maybe fatress was here to have a match with that guy.
49:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he really badly probably wanted a match with that guy.
49:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think this was actually not my favorite fatress match of the tournament.
49:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really.
49:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
49:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
49:39
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about that because I think we have different.
49:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So in the next batch, can't tell me a hard feed of here.
49:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, going 10.
49:48
[SPEAKER_00]: 54 with the shutdown.
49:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Super, it's old.
49:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, this is an incredible batch.
49:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Just in terms of kept those performance here.
49:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm going to get oh, go over as the ultimate baby face.
49:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, Okava needs some work.
49:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's obviously Yeah, like he just drives teammates of work.
50:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, but I'm not sure.
50:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
50:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I see people say that, but it's like, I don't know what you expect given him exactly.
50:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's like, what does he have?
50:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't even have a contract for money.
50:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been around long enough like this was probably his like like he's probably still in like double did like Load double did that match as total in his program.
50:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know Well, I mean, I think that just the raw energy and that's why this is if he uses his part of the charm Yeah, yes, and it's obvious that like everybody sees it as well Which by all dependent immediately puts him in this tournament and puts him against fucking can't do me a horror I thought exactly
50:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So this was exactly what it needed to be perfect and like Kento was a perfect.
50:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So how quickly do you think he's moving up from up down to all Japan?
50:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That's an interesting question because I feel like it's January too soon in terms of like proper, not because you want to say equally great, proper etiquette of like stealing someone's
51:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That too, yeah, it's just like, oh, you debuted at the sky and we're going to steal him six months later.
51:06
[SPEAKER_00]: If you stung him, well, Kofuji was here in Osaka Star Wrestling, what a year, maybe.
51:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but he did it like a duel thing for like a while, right?
51:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he didn't really like, I think he really only like recently like properly left or w to be like full-time all Japan.
51:25
[SPEAKER_00]: are rising high at or only, like, recently, left behind progressively.
51:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly, yeah.
51:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's probably what you could do, right?
51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, where he just gets like a dual contract with uptown and all Japan.
51:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
51:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm curious, how many shows is uptown even running out of, I think it's all in, like, they're all in Tokyo, pretty sure.
51:48
[SPEAKER_00]: They're running, they're running one show a month.
51:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's very easy.
51:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they started doing that their first show was an April of 2025 and they have run 18 shows.
51:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They wrote, they run one show a month.
52:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me see for the sake of this.
52:05
[SPEAKER_00]: How often does Otsaka style wrestling run?
52:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Otsaka style runs maybe two to three times a month.
52:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that's a bit more yeah, which all I mean, I was actually did you see the yoga video of like him just standing like somewhere like a suburb and then fucking What's his face?
52:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Gerald pulls up in like the k-car and handsome and an envelope of money and that's how he gets paid.
52:34
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's also bad.
52:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Very sleazy.
52:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Very sleazy.
52:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
52:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, did you all want that jacuzzi vibe to his company?
52:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
52:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to be fair, the K-Car isn't exactly a jacuzzi vibe, but yeah, yeah.
52:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But still, yeah, no, like him just standing in the middle of nowhere just being handed an envelope full of cash is very, very, very sleazy.
52:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then the main event of the show with Gosheo's lucky defeating Renai Abby in 2227 with the go-on-layer, and this match rocked.
53:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
53:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny though.
53:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
53:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Ayabe has been really good lately, but it feels like his push has been de-emphasized.
53:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
53:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's why he's more motivated, but because he's like, actually, no, you actually need to show us something you can't just beat all.
53:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
53:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
53:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I mean, like look at honestly like look goes the ring general that carry this but look I think I have his women looking pretty good lately and yeah, no definitely he's he's been looking a lot better than he has been yeah, and then we go to corroborate city general sports center main arena the show.
53:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not as good as the opening night.
53:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Round one, Dysuke Sekamoto's fetishotaris, you know, in 1318, with a big pain, catastrophe.
53:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, basically someone here was penalized for not being over six feet.
53:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that's right.
53:56
[SPEAKER_00]: As you pointed out, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be, it can be
54:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it was very perfunctory, basically, like it was, it wasn't measured existed, but I don't think it will be stored out on any way shape or form.
54:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we go to Zion versus on a defeating Odyssey in 1180 with the diving head by no look.
54:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I would just say this wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.
54:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, it was not good.
54:36
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it wasn't.
54:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like if you have Zion have to be, like obviously in this case, Zion has to be the guy that carries the match, but also you really don't want Zion to be the guy that carries your match, like that's not good.
54:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the finish was fun, because the finish was actually fun.
54:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I will give them that.
54:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I very much will give them that.
54:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
54:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in the main event, Rocky Haunted defeated Kumurashi in 2157 with the final event.
55:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And look, I thought this had a good finish.
55:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Extracted with the problem here is you do not want to put Kumurashi in the 20 minute match.
55:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Before do you start?
55:07
[UNKNOWN]: No.
55:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
55:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
55:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a place I thought to get him up for the final event.
55:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, you could probably could have done that in a significantly shorter amount of time.
55:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just like cool.
55:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, he's like a 12-minute time limit.
55:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the bombs can get out, right?
55:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's yeah, like to be quite frank, like if I compare like right because okay, it's the main event They have to give it some time, but you know what then I probably would have like shuffle things around I would have put like you my hands.
55:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just Ray and the main year and then put a Honda versus Schumer like on the next show And then you don't have to go to any minutes
55:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes exactly.
55:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And then so we go to kiss a bunker hall, medium hall in Matsuboto in front of 680 fans and the only two tournament matches on this one, this was like, in some way, this is like going to the best shows in the tournament actually.
55:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah!
55:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You must, you must, let's decide to.
56:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you must double you must versus double side-os here.
56:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You must end if you're to race in 1123 with the Gabo Chara.
56:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there was obviously a miscommunication between water and the timekeeper at the end of this.
56:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, so it looked awkward, but at the same time, like it was probably fine point to end the back here with the running knee.
56:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
56:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's not putting very up in that.
56:22
[SPEAKER_01]: No, like he finally seems to have learned that lesson of like no, no, no, no, don't like in this promotion you don't want to just have that finisher where you have to lift up really big guys right on to your fucking neck and then drop them get like a finisher where they can be underground and you just do like like this is actually like this is what I've been wanting him to do because this is a finisher he can keep doing for the rest of his career.
56:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
56:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But otherwise, I thought this rock that loved their chemistry.
56:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I, like, when they had their triple crime match, I raised and caused them back to the year.
56:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wasn't disappointed here.
56:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it looked awkward at the finish, but if that had gone fine, no one would have noticed and it was a perfectly good time to spot the end of the match to be completely out of it.
57:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
57:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so that rock and what rock even more was you may air you're studying June set of 20 minutes and 20 seconds with the referee spot from the end game and like this is the back that dude set of you having during his triple crown rate.
57:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like this is a cathartic as well.
57:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really felt like you may air yagi overcoming like it's like a city like year and a half, basically.
57:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, well, you already kind of done that with a carnival, but this
57:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because like you like literally like discreem in the finish, basically like when he has him in the end game like it like that's I think what made it feels like a farting Well, he's just like yes, I've done it.
57:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
57:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go And the first time that you might've ever gotten out of the first round.
57:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really yes I think it not realized that because I was reading like translations on the website and I was like oh, you're right And I look back and this is the I think like the night is like 10th try and he gets out of the first round
58:05
[SPEAKER_01]: that's wild like he's like a multi triple crown so now we have a new story for the tournament well we did yeah but like no we yeah and now we have like okay you must finally got out of like the first round like Kenny actually went and out yeah I mean this is like incredible pocket I think actually yeah no that's that's I did not realize it even but yeah and more to think about it's like yeah he can't really remember that many like you maio yagi like roll road matches probably because
58:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And twice to Honda.
58:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that that makes that that makes the fight or leaving the bike.
58:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So then we go back.
58:44
[SPEAKER_00]: We're in second round now.
58:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Should keep a first ring.
58:47
[SPEAKER_00]: The first is two so it's there with 334 fans for a super no big and see full house.
58:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll start Paul.
58:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You may handside a few Timothy Thatcher in 606.
58:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So you start because I think I might have a different opinion this month.
58:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
58:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You.
59:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So to me,
59:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird to say that it's a frobeck, but it is.
59:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And this really felt like one of those like evolve like matches from like the 2010s.
59:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I like which is where like Fatcher like really like like started to become like more like well known and everything.
59:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this really felt like one of those like style battle like matches that he would have, you know, like the likes of like Drew Goulak and everything.
59:28
[SPEAKER_01]: which is very slow, very measured, like everything kind of feels like meaningful in a way, where like he's really like slowly what's heard, like trying to like tear like anxiety apart, and then eventually like because I mean the one thing I will say about this matter that I feel like that I felt like saturated took a bit too much of it almost.
59:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's a fair criticism.
59:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's something I felt about the match as well.
59:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But then like, I think then like, Anzard was like calming back after like enduring that, basically and then finishing off Fatch.
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like such a really nice moment as well.
1:00:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's how I felt about the match.
1:00:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I thought this started off awesome.
1:00:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I went and Zy's whip it out, his own Matt game.
1:00:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But that, yeah, it did descend into that you're taking too much in this match.
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just thought that it was that you're looking aggressive and then like, Anzai, just felt like Anzai didn't really do much to win this.
1:00:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean it was a very quick comeback, but I think that like me in a way that like sold like the damage that he had taken more as well with felt more desperate Basically, where he's just like okay, I just managed to like get for I somehow managed to like get out of this holds finally I need to enter now before he can like drag me back into it because I'm not gonna get out of second time
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, to me, because this is like, you know, kind of what we thought maybe facture would be going out here against Anzai, which we correctly predicted.
1:00:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was like, to me, it's like, okay, well, you got your young future ace, star guy, you should be going toe to toe with Thatcher and showing more.
1:01:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's, and that's how the match started.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_00]: But then it just turned into facture, you know.
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I thought like, I thought like, I thought like, Anzai did not show off as much.
1:01:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
1:01:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You should have.
1:01:20
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, but the early on, like, especially with the early part, that's why I was thinking, it's like, okay, it's fetching here because he actually really wanted to work with.
1:01:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, no, that's very possible.
1:01:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because the thinking, it's like, there were supposed to be a sound like, uh, that you had like a good buy post being like, uh, buy, but you never know what might happen in the future, which doesn't sound like, this guy is going to be back to team with the deck in real-world.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Technically, which sucks.
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking forward to that,
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought, but then it looked like he didn't exactly like, yes, Takahyan or I formed a faction.
1:01:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, to be fair, they just didn't come.
1:01:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's what they did.
1:01:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:01:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It just didn't come.
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they literally, they literally got the music back as well, which was fascist music originally before Walter stole it.
1:02:03
[SPEAKER_00]: But they do that like a bunch of shows and I'm like, oh, is this like a fashion forming type thing?
1:02:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, but I mean, I'm all for that.
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_00]: You're coming back, it's a shame.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_00]: What we'll talk about who they're.
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We're re-forming.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_01]: What was it called?
1:02:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Re-out.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
1:02:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Re-out.
1:02:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Re-out.
1:02:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't the fact that they kept existing after he
1:02:29
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... that had uh... did i have wager and renaid to pre as well uh... it also had uh... it also had sex in the hoxley
1:02:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
1:02:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure, well, let me double check.
1:02:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so, yeah, so, Real was E-Deki, because you could put Dita, Saxon Haxley, Shuhei Tanaguchi, and Timothy Fathcher.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're good, yeah.
1:02:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but he's like, he's, like, I don't know.
1:02:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know how long ago it's like, uh, his, uh, like, knee injury Ross.
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's probably still out for a while.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna be out for a while.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, E-Deki wasn't ever Lucian?
1:03:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's in evolution.
1:03:05
[SPEAKER_01]: or was oh god yeah no it was yes sorry I thought if that's what's like something I don't remember from like the 2010s but no yeah right when it did the whole thing with Subama he did actually join evolution
1:03:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the main event of this show was you, Ayoyagi feeding Daisuke Sekamoto in 1903 with the fool and another very good match.
1:03:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Not quite as good as versus June, but you know, another great performance by Yuma here.
1:03:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And the big win, like, you know, big win over a big outsider type thing.
1:03:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
1:03:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, no, no, I think about a Decina gave it away that like, Anzai and like, that the Yuma's are gonna have a match because they literally put them like back to back every single time.
1:03:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, um, then we go to the 17th and other shorts and keep our first ring, super no big as you fall out.
1:03:52
[SPEAKER_00]: For House, Zion defeated Ghosts in 1937 with the rundown.
1:03:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And while I mean, hey, take your take, take a victory laugh on that one.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I take it right into the lap on that.
1:04:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, well, because they had that other singles match that should keep a couple of months back and it just like feels like they're building to this one.
1:04:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and let's not forget that go missed two shows in a row with a hip back and injury.
1:04:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Hip injury.
1:04:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
1:04:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
1:04:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was sent.
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you not see he was selling his hip in this match?
1:04:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God, such a work, wow, like that's the thing that you might also actually be heard.
1:04:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But the man's hand might be on the verge of disintegration, like I don't yet certainly very possible.
1:04:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, he sold the injury that he was a legend.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, look, I mean, maybe you want to, you want to bench go for a couple of taking something back in a lot.
1:04:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's like obviously an element of work even if his hip is This is exactly the same kind of match they had before.
1:04:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like somehow.
1:04:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a little plotting But he pulls something passive out of Zion at the end.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I also kind of like like the little like handshake that they did at the end before like go like rolled out of the ring Which kind of felt like put like a nice like story like a nice bow on this hole like go leaving have it to like fight-have-work storyline basically.
1:05:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_00]: and then main events right behind it if you can't show me a horror in 2028 with the final events.
1:05:19
[SPEAKER_00]: This was good.
1:05:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It just felt also like a gentleman's canto.
1:05:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to describe it.
1:05:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I kind of get it.
1:05:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the thing I will say about like Ricky Hondey on this tournament.
1:05:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, like given where this was going to end up, I would have expected him to like have better matches.
1:05:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that it's matches for bad, but it's like, no.
1:05:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:05:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I, if haunted, like, haunted is going to be challenging, spoiled, haunted is going to be challenging.
1:05:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
1:05:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, they got to turn it up from what this was.
1:05:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:05:50
[SPEAKER_00]: This is fine and should keep if pursuing this is not fine.
1:05:52
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a cork in me to bed.
1:05:54
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
1:05:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I, I also don't really know, like, how to feel about it.
1:05:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's good that he got that big one.
1:06:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think it was necessary for him to get that big one of a kind of an everything, but still, like,
1:06:06
[SPEAKER_01]: disappointed by what it was.
1:06:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have really photo what I've been a lot more and then So we go on to the final night at Corrigard Hall in front of 1,510 fans Supernova agency for house Very good sign for all Japan Rookie Honda defeated Zion in nine oh six for final events and this might have been Zion's best batch He's ever had in all Japan and probably possibly ever because they just went in there through bombs for like nine minutes
1:06:37
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was pretty great, yeah, and then like Honda like again, and this is where like the final one looks like really fucking impressive Yeah, it's just I mean, it's one of the things where I'm like Mandy really should have protected that move better But yeah, like it was like yeah, you know like because many first started using it I was like oh like nobody should be kicking out of this for like 10 years basically, and then like they did it within like three months or whatever
1:07:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, oh, the other show I'm going to final, you may eruyagi this feeling, you might answer in 2021-38 with the full, the ticket away Paul.
1:07:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I obviously, I fucking love this one.
1:07:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I, so I watched this yesterday and yeah, no, this is like I actually went full five stars on this and it's just, again, like I think what really was the thing about this whole like you may eruyagi thing in this tournament is just that it feels like very chaotic basically.
1:07:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Yuma is, like, the more experience, like, the more decorated of the two, but, and, and I still, like, fail in you and everything, right?
1:07:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But, ans, I was, like, the one that was, like, the dominant one and as much.
1:07:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it felt like Yuma had to overcome ans, I, despite the fact that ans, I has never beaten Yuma.
1:07:52
[SPEAKER_01]: which is kind of an interesting way to construct that as well, right?
1:07:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's normally you were through the opposite, but it's like, Well, Anzai has never beaten huma, so obviously huma is going to be like dominating the match of whatever.
1:08:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, like this very much felt like no Anzai is actually the guy that is ahead of huma in the pecking order.
1:08:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So huma has to be the guy that overcomes Anzai somehow.
1:08:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And it also showed off how good of a worker and Zion, because not many guys are like this good, it's like leading a match, like being the guy that is in control.
1:08:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's actually something a lot of like, not that experience versus really, really struggles.
1:08:28
[SPEAKER_01]: like a lot of them are pretty good at already at like you know taking a beating like selling and everything but like and i probably like let this match like he was in control for good for like a good chunk of it like he really was like like taking it to you are really like trying to just like grind him down and everything and you are just refusing to give up like just taking basically almost everything like and i can like throw at him and then
1:08:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually like it's like he just like gets the fool and just like like he gets like the rocks up And he gets the fool and everything and he actually beats and he actually like he beats a guy He has always been he beats a guy like right back that that's why if you're like this match Just it like it shouldn't feel this emotionally impactful for Yuma to be the guy He's beaten every single time they've had a single smash
1:09:20
[SPEAKER_01]: to what it did.
1:09:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what made us so great like the fact that they gave it so much time too, right?
1:09:27
[SPEAKER_01]: They normally don't, they never give this much time to a semi-final.
1:09:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like and they always feel like so perfunctory as well.
1:09:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I've been talking about like, like they came to me a horror like semi-final match, which is the exact same fucking match every single fucking time.
1:09:43
[SPEAKER_01]: like down to the exact moves at the exact same time.
1:09:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's could probably overlay them.
1:09:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And like you never get a semi-final like this.
1:09:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That is this good, that is feels like this impactful and this important.
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And it also feels like it progresses the storyline as well.
1:09:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you progress to the storyline at the same time you could you progress the whole like you are trying to overcome like both like his like bad years of like bad year in terms of like where he's been booked on the cards, right?
1:10:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And also like his like never really being able to get that deep into the sternum and now he actually manages to make it to the final and you also like continue the storyline of like yes and I is like the next guy when he still has not managed to beat you me or Yagi that's still the one like accomplishment that eludes him and then I hope will continue to like elude him for like a while longer still because I think whenever he actually does beat him is actually going to mean like
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_01]: be like in a very like meaningful spot as well.
1:10:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I fucking loved every single thing about this match.
1:10:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was awesome.
1:10:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I went four, five wonders and well, I did say in the moment that I'm gonna put it as my number one.
1:10:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a match of deer.
1:10:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna stand by that, but I will have to like rewatch like
1:10:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Okada versus Tanahashi.
1:11:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I basically will have to watch these two back to back essentially and then just basically make the call which I'm going to put number one.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm very, very certain like one of these two is going to be like my match of the year at the end of the year.
1:11:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
1:11:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I were for the quarter.
1:11:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this is one of those cases that I'm going to be by far the high man on the match.
1:11:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, one of the best algebra and matches here, I mean, the way that this tournament turned out was, I mean, it was, it was incredible booking.
1:11:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is really good booking.
1:11:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the best booking that I'll just end is done, I want.
1:11:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, like I don't really have any complaints about the booking to be honest.
1:11:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:11:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So before we go to the finals, we had a little skit, and I got to say, like, the grants sweep of wrestling skits.
1:11:55
[SPEAKER_00]: This was as bad as anything that TNA or WWE is.
1:12:00
[SPEAKER_00]: like it really was.
1:12:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, with the three members of have sitting around the table and then I'll say I miss go, including a she-know who says I miss go in English.
1:12:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Ziya gets on the phone and then it actually cuts to whoever Ziya is talking to on the phone.
1:12:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
1:12:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just such bullshit like it's such a
1:12:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is bondwagoner, I can't, you know, that's only the other thing, like who are we going to replace?
1:12:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Go Shiazaki, one of the greatest wrestlers of all time with the fucking bondwagoner.
1:12:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Jesus Christ.
1:12:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to know, now there seems to be some interesting, uh, I mean, it's not really a debate, it's a debate that I've made up in my head.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But um, you know, uh, I believe that, uh, see here double check.
1:12:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, actually, you know, by the checking, do you know who won vagueness only matched this year has been with?
1:13:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Or do you only match that made cage match?
1:13:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So it is a former Royal Royal, and no, not a former Royal, but it is a former all-japan or a wrestler.
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want me to tell you the promotion?
1:13:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, look at it.
1:13:17
[SPEAKER_01]: World classic professional big time wrestling, wrestling out of Ohio.
1:13:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, um, world crew.
1:13:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he beat Lord Crew in 8.36.
1:13:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, is that how he got this fucking?
1:13:31
[SPEAKER_00]: No, he got this fucking pussy.
1:13:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He got this fucking fucking pussy.
1:13:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look, this isn't, this isn't very indicative of anything, but, um, he has a lower rating on K's Rational Odyssey.
1:13:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
1:13:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I just clicked on a random year of him in WWE and the first match I see is Odyssey Jones defeats Von Wagner in two minutes, fifty six.
1:13:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But okay, so he has a lower cage match rating than Odyssey, and that's despite not having allegations.
1:14:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not great.
1:14:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, although I've seen other people be like, well, he can't be worse.
1:14:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't be like I can't even see how he could be worse.
1:14:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing like here's the thing say what you will about Odyssey But he um he kind of like I've done more of an indie grind than then bloom has because bloom is out for 11 months before he pops up
1:14:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, there could be Indies that fly under Cage Match's radar.
1:14:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah, you must keep that in to consideration.
1:14:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But Cage's friends on the list of having 10 matches since he left WWE.
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was last match at WWE was April 2024.
1:14:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He does not return to the ring until March of 2025.
1:14:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:14:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's had 10 matches in like a year and a half.
1:14:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:14:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't see how he's going to improve with that.
1:14:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and a competitor to like, all you see who again is the shit, but like he had 44.
1:15:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he left WE, and then okay, he also takes a while to pop back up.
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he has his last match in WE in August.
1:15:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he doesn't reappear until February the following year.
1:15:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But then again, he had 44 matches last year and he had 33 matches this year.
1:15:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And he would have been on a 90 day because he was on the main rock.
1:15:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, not good.
1:15:26
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but he's got the ultimate size.
1:15:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for it's right.
1:15:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, he's already.
1:15:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He's pretty too already as well.
1:15:35
[SPEAKER_01]: This has got this.
1:15:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this feels like Sutra, like, like, made 2000s move.
1:15:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he is the Bobby Cannon.
1:15:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I was trying to, like, I didn't remember.
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for some reason, I didn't remember.
1:15:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's... And when I say Cartoon.
1:15:51
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing then and move?
1:15:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a perverse interest in seeing it.
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, yeah.
1:15:57
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
1:15:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, I, I want to see how how deep can this go.
1:16:01
[SPEAKER_01]: How bad can this be?
1:16:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll get to that.
1:16:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you actually think also the show?
1:16:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else?
1:16:08
[SPEAKER_01]: No, basically not.
1:16:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's always interesting.
1:16:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Terramish with Bussashi, Ruzing Hatter, and Hokutou, defeating Dan Sago, and Shola Kufuji was actually pretty good.
1:16:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can imagine that.
1:16:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they did the ring comp pose again with Suzuki Thachun Yano, but this time go also participated.
1:16:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look, kind of subtract Yato from that.
1:16:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's like my perfect faction.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And they let Thachun leave by submitting IABA in a match where a russian hero O'Gawa work could have also taken.
1:16:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Right there, yeah.
1:16:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That's also notable.
1:16:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I would, you know, what's, what's what I was like, Dan, he really is getting deep push here.
1:16:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:16:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not so trying to convince that to come back and look, I think he should.
1:16:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he should.
1:16:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I really should.
1:16:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see, I want to see he deki and fatter, and she'll be able to explain.
1:17:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:17:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So in the main of the auto tournament, we had Rayuki Haunted defeating Yuma Ariagi 2533 with the final vent.
1:17:07
[SPEAKER_00]: This is certainly no Uma squared by any means.
1:17:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It got a little sloppy, and that was hardest fault, but look what's still a good final.
1:17:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'd go like maybe three corners, maybe flirting with four.
1:17:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And it obviously carried itself at the end, and it was obviously like a big, it had tons of heat.
1:17:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Big emotional moment for a hundred of finally get the win.
1:17:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the thing, it was good, but I feel like it was almost disappointing and it should have been better, right?
1:17:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it was a story line that they filled up for literal years of Honda coming up short every single time, and then him finally...
1:17:51
[SPEAKER_01]: like managing to overcome that and like win this tournament that he's that has just eluded him.
1:17:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But then also not even just like the fact that this tournament is eluded him that this is like the first be like win of his career as well.
1:18:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And like this is finally him like like him overcoming so many
1:18:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Just you know like it should have felt like it meant more.
1:18:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Should have been like I don't think like obviously Maybe you can't really get to like you must wear it match, but like it at the very least should have been like a no-brainer notebook like four stars Floor kind of match and it wasn't that
1:18:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it really got there and I think that's not great like that if that's right if you want to still these are the kind of moments you really want to show up.
1:18:44
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to like say that like you have to that you deserve a push to the main event, these are the kind of spots that you need to show up with like an outstanding performance and I just don't think Honda did, right because
1:19:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he wrestled for like nearly a fucking hour on this day.
1:19:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but like still like it's like the fact that the match didn't quite get them, wasn't on him.
1:19:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was on Honda.
1:19:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
1:19:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so a couple of things.
1:19:15
[SPEAKER_00]: First, uh, I'm gonna vote you my area for most proof.
1:19:20
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's a good one actually.
1:19:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:19:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you would say my mother Fuji.
1:19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: As I was working weird, why is that?
1:19:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are those of my two most improved of the year fucking
1:19:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, look, I'm going to give you the edge because Marford has not had a match like gets you said like that's true, or again, yeah, and so as I wrote in the run sheet after this does hard to have it and I would have said like when Honda was doing this like before with this road falling short gimmick, I'm like, oh, it's just about a time, just about a time.
1:19:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think maybe I was hired in others on a Honda for a while, but now I'm coming down on him.
1:20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's a bad, but he's like a solid like, he's a challenger, he's a tape, he's not a triple crunch.
1:20:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the weird part where it's like, I liked his match for fucking Rena Yabe.
1:20:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I thought that was such a better match, like the the final that he had against Rena Yabe.
1:20:17
[SPEAKER_01]: That was such a better match than this one.
1:20:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's like, yeah, it's just a real, real task.
1:20:22
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to turn it up, I think.
1:20:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, absolutely.
1:20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, at that mean, to be fair, like, the final that they had last year was, like, pretty damn good as well.
1:20:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
1:20:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So, like, I, because that's why I felt maybe also, like, about, like, when, like, Honda, actually beat Kento, as well, uh, in the second round, was like, okay, if this wasn't, maybe, at exactly that level, but it's also like, that they still have to triple a crown match coming up,
1:20:49
[SPEAKER_01]: throw everything out there because you have like another match coming up pretty quickly too.
1:20:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't know.
1:20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I was also always somebody that was like, no, I think Honda is going to get I think Honda is very much going to be a triple crown champion.
1:21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm not sure.
1:21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I really have to see he really has to like impress me in the triple crown match of me, Ahara.
1:21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And it can't just be that you get carried by Ken Tamiyahara to a good match.
1:21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be like, no, this match is all it's a good because Rayyuki Honda was in it.
1:21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And not because Ken Tamiyahara was in it.
1:21:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:21:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So also forgot to add, after the humus batch, that humus got on the mic and apologized to Anzai about getting suspended and proposed to reform their tag team and they challenged the side-os.
1:21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And then after the side-os batch is the side-os accepted.
1:21:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know what a perfect booking too, perfect booking, so overall parts of the tournament.
1:21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the fur like I, I really like the tournament.
1:21:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought like I don't fit.
1:21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't love every match on it, but the matches that I loved and it, I really loved and I thought the booking was just like 10 out of 10.
1:22:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, I was maybe complete.
1:22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I could maybe complain about
1:22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, it's just like that would literally be like the only thing like otherwise I think 10 out of 10 booking like I literally there is not like normally I would be like oh yeah Okay, maybe I would do this maybe I may be able to dismiss all differently may I would put this through guy I think that would have made more sense because of this and it's I don't have that at all for this time I failed this was just flawlessly both just perfectly executed it did the story that they had set up for years
1:22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: They also advanced another story that I didn't even know, which was the whole U.M.A.O.
1:22:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yager thing, which makes the whole thing even better.
1:22:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Because now you have that as the follow-through, now it's like, okay, now U.M.
1:22:47
[SPEAKER_01]: has to be the guy that actually has to win this tournament.
1:22:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I would argue that was this like the best Royal Rotornament they've ever done.
1:22:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Because normally, this is like the secondary tournament.
1:22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And it very much feels like the secondary tournament.
1:23:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But I really this year, I thought, I would argue maybe that it was better than the carnival.
1:23:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's maybe that's a bit strong, but at least it wasn't as obviously like the secondary tournament as it normally is.
1:23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I would, yes, I think it was a much better tournament.
1:23:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a little softness in the middle, but in terms of booking in terms of the stories telling you, it's incredible.
1:23:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And often this tournament does not have like the air, the air, the air, the air, the air, the anxiety, the anxiety, the bracket, like really elevated like the mid-middle round matches way higher than they would do.
1:23:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
1:23:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will go and we will look at the upcoming shows.
1:23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So on October 3rd at Gaiota Green Arena, Maina Arena, which is in the Saitama Prefecture, which is one of those basketball arenas that Akuta loves to book.
1:23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Ryzen Khado and Yast Tatiana versus Musashi and Hogutou Amori, so Amori still a sconce within the junior division.
1:24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Kuma Rashi versus Yu Aoki.
1:24:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, could be a crazy thing, yeah.
1:24:04
[SPEAKER_00]: This could be a really good match if they keep it to 12 minutes.
1:24:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would assume it's probably on the shorter side because it's like in the mid-guards, I bet.
1:24:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Could also, could this also be them like moving a okay up to like heavyweight as well?
1:24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, hope so.
1:24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: My leg because I could see him be, I could see him maybe even get like a win here.
1:24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
1:24:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were teasing a Rashi and a okay forming a tag team like...
1:24:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that might also still happen.
1:24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That might be like what's coming out of this matter honestly, where they like shake hands out of words.
1:24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, can we also talk about the fact that Confucius wants a challenge for the six-man tag tell us is said you taught the wrestle one team.
1:24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to bring someone scary for wrestle one.
1:24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And Paul, do you know who it is?
1:24:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Kodo.
1:24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh god.
1:24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, huh.
1:24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He hawk.
1:24:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a GMO?
1:24:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't do that.
1:24:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So many interesting people who could have fought for very, like, four minutes of one time.
1:24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, bring fucking Maliki Kodo.
1:24:55
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
1:24:55
[SPEAKER_00]: No, the way he said there was someone like that would scare you or concern you or someone.
1:24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, who did that?
1:25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:25:01
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
1:25:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Kodo.
1:25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I see what I've been, what have been, what have been if you bring in the, this is how Nakajima comes back.
1:25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Zion Odyssey is Tari Shia vs. Dekis Suzuki, Masa Yuki Kono and Nobuki Kukumara, who's another uptown trainee.
1:25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And then World Tag Team title skirmish, Yuma, Ayoyagi, Yuma, Anzai, and showed a Kifuji versus a June set of Ray Saito and Senior Saito, triple crown skirmish, can't tell me a hard and ghost, she was lucky versus righty-haunted Red Eye Abay, that could be good, that could be real good.
1:25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And then junior heavy, PWF junior, World Junior Heavyweight Championship, Dan Tamar versus Seki Ashiyoka.
1:25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: which again, I got some high hopes for so that's that show and then raising an Irene Memorial Series 2026 at Sunday Sun Plaza Hall and so it's Sunday Sun Plaza Hall.
1:25:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you can get with the big event here.
1:25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So we got rising high at a whole total more versus Isawa, number one in Makoto Oishi, another six man tag title skirmishi.
1:26:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And this one's Kuma Rachi versus Soda Gopuji.
1:26:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm a gochiyo Zaki and Matsunuki Kona.
1:26:12
[SPEAKER_00]: What a blast from the past.
1:26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That's such a, that's such a fucking 2014 match deal.
1:26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Zion Odyssey in Chotaro, Shino.
1:26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Gay or a TV title in Misaki, which is Uki vs Yasutaki Yado, so much as Uki's office is gonna retain that one.
1:26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Another triple crown skirmishot looks good, because it's Kento and Hadekki vs Honda and Ayave.
1:26:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the main event, which I have actually really insane high hopes for because, oh yeah.
1:26:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Think about this.
1:26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You're in Sendai with the sitos and you've got Yuma on the peak and you've got Anzai with all of his like bachelor at post popularity.
1:26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: This should be like nuclear heat here.
1:26:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have SIDO brothers versus Yuma squared.
1:26:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I have me.
1:26:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I've built the guy.
1:26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I haven't say like okay, but if you beat the SIDO here actually.
1:27:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know.
1:27:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And now have they beat the SIDO's in their
1:27:10
[SPEAKER_00]: At least as a tag team, I feel like Ray locked this big sign, but Well, I mean, yeah, because they did the triple-chrome match.
1:27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
1:27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It was sent over the side.
1:27:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:27:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to retain.
1:27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I probably would keep the titles on them as well.
1:27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that makes the most sense, but
1:27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I, it would be spicy.
1:27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be like a spicy.
1:27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to put some heat on like the humus like that would be even the way to do it Yeah, and then so on the D12 at Sunwreck Kidakami Yes, tagi on versus Izzawa number one.
1:27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You my aoyaki and Dan Tamarov versus Go Shiozaki and Seki Oshioca Actually that could be real good.
1:27:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I run out of any sushi versus Zion and Odyssey You my Anzai versus Hoko Tol Mori.
1:27:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to see that to see what Anzai can get of them
1:27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, June and Ray versus Tento and Rising Hayato, which could be a lot of fun, and then another and then the six band title match, which is Hada, Arashi and Sago Touchy bought a versus a decky Kono and Kofuji.
1:28:11
[SPEAKER_01]: such a weird as to you.
1:28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And then as far as he's more of a guy that would put like a deki makes sense.
1:28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a guy that puts fear into vessel one, get bathed on how it's all fucking run.
1:28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that's right, that deki, that could have been had deki that had done it.
1:28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So it makes even less sense that it's codo.
1:28:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for mysterious reasons, nothing has been announced for there already sold out October 15th, Shinkima, first ring shot.
1:28:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably why, I really bad.
1:28:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, actually, we might have felt as talk about this year because I kind of forgot about to talk about this earlier.
1:28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I think also what helped like elevate your do tournament, I was talking about earlier, how like the crowds, but kind of bad for Noah, like the all-depand crowds are like the polar opposites.
1:28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: They are so into everything.
1:28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they hope I shouldn't, those in Kiba crowds just fucking go nuts for like everything.
1:29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd really bad he want to go to one of these shows.
1:29:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just they sell out so fucking quickly.
1:29:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the 22nd, at Cork at Hall, actually we got Kentucky versus Co-Fuji, that could be fun.
1:29:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Dan, Seigo, and Ho-To-Mori, and U-A-O-Ki, versus Musashi, Seki, or Shio-Ka-Razing, Hayata, and, yes, Tapiano, we're gonna set up others versus Havic, cause it's Zion, Odyssey, Chotaris, you know, in Cal Blue versus June, Seto, Ray, Seto, Mr. Seto, and the rookie doing, thank you.
1:29:34
[SPEAKER_00]: said you're a shadow, so you know how we've been taking the pin.
1:29:37
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you say it in that joke slam on senior shadow and being okay, you've got to fucking put it through the ring.
1:29:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, and then we have, I'll just pan versus got you to Coru.
1:29:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You may argue, you may answer and run.
1:29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I always listen to Doka Kukuta, your shiki kato and ishiin.
1:29:55
[SPEAKER_01]: See, and Dave makes me think that you must have winning the title.
1:29:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I see that.
1:29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Or could just be that Kukuta and Kato are going to be in the real world,
1:30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Could also be because obviously then the other one would be like that like that like hell blue and somebody are like challenging the scientists I think those are like basically we either gonna get havoc was decided next or we're gonna get you must wear this guy to talk a row Yeah
1:30:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and speaking of real well tagging previews, we have Suam and go Shiozaki, which is Cango, Machimo, and Daisuke Sekamoto, and I see fact that this is the Fakio number one contenders match, and they will challenge, and what is it this will challenge the setos on the Hokkaido tour.
1:30:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that also what makes sense, because of doing the Hokkaido thing again, right?
1:30:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, and then triple count.
1:30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Catch on me a horror versus right.
1:30:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You hada.
1:30:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, uh, Paul a couple of things I want to note.
1:30:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
1:30:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I am concerned.
1:30:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Cal Bloom coming in this late in October and not working the rest of the tour kind of screams to me that this guy's going to be in the real world tag.
1:30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, absolutely is in the real world.
1:30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And probably we could kind of... Yeah, yeah, probably.
1:30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're going to be around trouble, you're going to be a Shino and Cowboy.
1:31:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I, okay, here's the thing, that's the less bad option.
1:31:06
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a word, there is like, the way worse option is if you get Cowboy lumin Odyssey.
1:31:10
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
1:31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to be fair, that would then give a Zion and a Sino, which actually would be kind of a fun team.
1:31:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I really really really really fun.
1:31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I put a really, really do not want to see an Odyssey Kel Bloomty.
1:31:24
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's also such a fucking core, all-depand thing, to look at those two guys and be like, we should put them in a tag team together.
1:31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Look how tall they are.
1:31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, we're basically we're going to get some combination of those four guys like and like we're going to get to have a teams and the real little technique.
1:31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
1:31:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Also looking at this.
1:31:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Who do you expect a common challenge can tell for the record breaking tell defense because we think can tell is obviously retaining against Honda, right?
1:31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that puts it like 10 and that puts his record breaking defense in Hokkaido probably.
1:32:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, could be anyone that's like a small van, he's a smaller than you.
1:32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, see, just kind of historically speaking, wouldn't you make it to Wama?
1:32:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then you're running, because you're running credit to oversusualment part 3,000, but in in Hokkaido in a smaller venue.
1:32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that could be possible, too.
1:32:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And you, oh, it's a kind of make it like a thing that's almost like this is, this is my actual like last average challenge.
1:32:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I would try to get more mileage out of that bigger building than like a 700C.
1:32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: but like he's he is I don't know but he's such a like part-time and I'll I don't know forever gonna get like a title character film and like a big building again right like he's not even signed to the promotion anymore that's true
1:32:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the last one, the last one he did was like, in an idiom too.
1:32:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when he challenged, and that's also like, that's two years ago, actually.
1:32:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, to be fair, I mean, it would be, I'm pretty sure that would be, like, if they do it on the Hokkaido to that would be by far, the smallest building they've ever done, can't reverse the Suama.
1:33:05
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really did it in the Buddha-Kan, Korkan, Korkan,
1:33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, would be by far the smallest building if I would like to on that match on.
1:33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't really see anyone that sticks out.
1:33:19
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's the thing.
1:33:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't really think of anybody else, right?
1:33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the neither of the humus makes a sense here.
1:33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
1:33:26
[SPEAKER_01]: A cyto maybe, maybe June.
1:33:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, if the humus win the tag titles, then I guess maybe June.
1:33:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But then June is going to lose on the show.
1:33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, not he's not going to put his going to be on the losing side.
1:33:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he'd take it, but he'd take it, feels like actually we had choice for the record.
1:33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I was cycling in the fence.
1:33:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, second defense on the rain, gotta go.
1:33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Madoka Kikuta?
1:33:49
[SPEAKER_00]: What about second motor or marshmallow?
1:33:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Me, that feels even weaker.
1:33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Second motor?
1:33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know second motor would definitely feel like a throw away for like the record breaking the fence.
1:34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: We are talking about, like, I can't remember how big is that ballroom in the hotel and support.
1:34:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's keeping something.
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:34:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So these are not big shows.
1:34:14
[SPEAKER_00]: They sell them out and they do very well, but they're all five to seven hundred things I believe.
1:34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:34:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me look what they drew last year on these shows because, like, you know, I just feel like there's one more cork and you can pop with Siwawa.
1:34:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe I'm completely off base with me.
1:34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, what about Kikuto?
1:34:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, actually, that would make sense.
1:34:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That would also make sense.
1:34:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's a big match, it's an outsider.
1:34:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can, like, so there's not nothing really like lost.
1:34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but it wouldn't feel like a throw away.
1:34:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it would be like, right?
1:34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Masha will feel like a guy who doesn't have a fucking snowball chance in hell to, like, win.
1:34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Where's Kikuta?
1:34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Very much would feel like a guy that could actually win the match.
1:34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he is no longer, he is no longer the open-to-dream gay champion, so you can actually like have him job to the Triple Crown Champion.
1:35:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So at the Support APA Hotel and Resort on November 3rd, it's your 728 fans, and that doesn't say Super Nov against the or anything, but probably not bigger than 800 if we're being honest here.
1:35:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was Kent Overs' whole good toe, which actually was a really good batch, I think people slept on, but anyway.
1:35:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, I mean, this is the size of the venues we're talking about.
1:35:25
[SPEAKER_00]: So they did like on this tour of the last year, they did 325, 445, 78, 65418, 525 by 28, 728.
1:35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll do a little better, but like we're talking in like the dozens better.
1:35:38
[SPEAKER_00]: No, like hundreds better because I don't think these are particularly big buildings to begin with.
1:35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, it doesn't really matter with the challenge.
1:35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't want to, it would feel weird for like, you know, like a record breaking defense for it to just be like a nobody, but nobody feels wrong, but you know, like not like a credible challenger.
1:35:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have it.
1:36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
1:36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like, let's go.
1:36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
1:36:03
[SPEAKER_01]: What do we just talked about her?
1:36:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting.
1:36:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for example.
1:36:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just talking nonsense.
1:36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Who is out there?
1:36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:36:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Like who else even left?
1:36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:36:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes with making any sense.
1:36:12
[SPEAKER_00]: You work down.
1:36:13
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, like, you know.
1:36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I think that's a sort of very weird, like, Zion.
1:36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
1:36:20
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
1:36:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Hellbloom is going to be the record breaking title sentence.
1:36:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You say Zion, but I don't think that's actually a possible.
1:36:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you get to the semis of the tournament?
1:36:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no.
1:36:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it is actually.
1:36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it is actually impossible.
1:36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Paul, question for you.
1:36:39
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think of bad humor versus Ken to us the main events for New Year's Eve?
1:36:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not against it.
1:36:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm not against it.
1:36:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm like throwing, and I back in, feels a bit too soon now.
1:36:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think, yeah, no, actually going with bad humor and actually giving him like a, like him beating Ken to as well, right?
1:36:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, presumably whoever is challenging that is beating Ken to because... Yeah, it's time to end this ring.
1:37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so what I'm going to be a shameless fantasy book.
1:37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think of this?
1:37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bad humor wins triple crown, New Year's Eve.
1:37:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Good humor wins the carnival by beating different types of the finals.
1:37:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's just the cut to say the same thing.
1:37:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Because what was the last time they had the winner of the carnival win the triple crown?
1:37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It has been a while.
1:37:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so hot.
1:37:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm trying to think.
1:37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And frankly, I mean, I'm trying to question it always from me.
1:37:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, would Ashino have won the title?
1:37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:37:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's the thing.
1:37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I have, yeah.
1:37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's like the last one where I even think they would have done it.
1:37:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:37:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's perfect for Anzac to also break that.
1:37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That first to yeah.
1:37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like my be.
1:37:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:37:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Because look, I mean, I mean, I suppose like that kind of contradicts my previous.
1:38:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get this title on to Anzac.
1:38:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And you do, but I feel like the story that they have now set up is you
1:38:11
[SPEAKER_00]: you know you may or yagi has rebuilt himself now like he is he is like a credible like this tournament really did one of them to just really like make him a credible like main event guy again yeah and the thing is this is less than a year because like the carlens and may you can have the title match to the end of May early June like it's you know it's still less than a year yeah to to to drag this out and before I was all about gotta get this on ends I know now now but
1:38:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Bandit's to do this properly, I think, and so maybe that way might be better.
1:38:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
1:38:43
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
1:38:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Any closing thoughts before we take off?
1:38:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, the only one I wanted to bring up was like the crowd thing, but we already talked about that.
1:38:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So...
1:38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think, I think, I think all Japan isn't a good spot right now.
1:38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, very good.
1:38:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And the booking is booking's on fire right now, yeah, for sure.
1:39:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is not always the case, but, uh, I don't know.
1:39:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably be still what's the believe I can go ahead to this.
1:39:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he does.
1:39:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I very much think he does.
1:39:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I forgot to mention this earlier, but I'm like, I still think no, Zah was got a hand in booking
1:39:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe and I don't know like do not pushing like his like favorites, but yeah, I would say I would say I will say the mystery Phantom invader is prime 80 false that I love it I actually kind of like it actually the fact that he gave him that name makes the whole thing so much better for me
1:39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Mysterious Phantom Invader is just like like my joke answer who's under the mask is like it's fucking Magnum TA who got like taken with a time machine Like just like basically just before the cartridge like and because of like like he's gonna have like this is now Gonna be like the like redeeming thing.
1:39:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like he has like his run that he never actually got and then but because of like the law of like
1:40:05
[SPEAKER_01]: like temporal interference, he will have to be put back into that moment, eventually, but until then, he will get like a proper neuron.
1:40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to lock that in as my guess.
1:40:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Magnum TA from like 1985, probably a time machine.
1:40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that your walk over week?
1:40:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my lock.
1:40:24
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my lock.
1:40:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the Magnum TA.
1:40:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:40:26
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
1:40:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will see you soon.
1:40:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll come back pretty soon right after the N1 finals because there's a couple and one shows left is the finals.
1:40:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They will have an idea of what the house is going to happen for January, for Noah.
1:40:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there'll be a couple of all Japan shows by then as well.
1:40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So until then, enjoy all the wrestling out.
1:40:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.