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- 0:00Speaker 1: I Am all in again.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Oh that's you.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I Am All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
- 0:21Speaker 1: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of I'm All
- 0:26Speaker 3: in Town Meeting with myself, Tara, and Susanne.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Hello.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Hello, Today we're talking about season four, episode four, Chicken
- 0:33Speaker 3: or Beef, which aired on October fourth, two thousand and three.
- 0:36Speaker 1: There was a lot of fours in there.
- 0:39Speaker 3: I didn't realize it until I followed out, but just
- 0:42Speaker 3: before we jumped on, I said, I really liked this episode.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a good, solid episode.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like that we're back in stars Hollow temporarily,
- 0:53Speaker 3: like they gave us the first three we're going to
- 0:56Speaker 3: we're going to college, and now we're back.
- 0:59Speaker 4: Right right, So it's not it's not like the show
- 1:03Speaker 4: is like Jumped the Shark and we're gonna be at
- 1:05Speaker 4: Yale forever. Like it's it's going back to its roots.
- 1:08Speaker 4: And so we got to have that little star tip.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Yeah, and it kind of made sense. I mean, she
- 1:11Speaker 1: is only an hour away, so m h.
- 1:14Speaker 3: I mean when I wasn't living at home, I definitely
- 1:17Speaker 3: just came home and brought my laundry you're not gonna lie, like.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I did the same thing.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I did think. Uh.
- 1:25Speaker 3: I thought the alarm system of it all was kind
- 1:28Speaker 3: of dumb though. I think I think the payoff worked.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Yeah with Kirk, right, but the alarm system. In the beginning,
- 1:36Speaker 3: I was like, the scene is so dumb.
- 1:38Speaker 4: Yeah, and the alarm doesn't I don't know when they
- 1:41Speaker 4: went to stand in the corner so that the alarm
- 1:43Speaker 4: like it doesn't work like that.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't work like that.
- 1:46Speaker 3: But then if you notice in the in the scene
- 1:49Speaker 3: after the credits when they're putting the post its and
- 1:51Speaker 3: they just stand up, they stood up in the same
- 1:53Speaker 3: spot where the alarm went off yesterday.
- 1:55Speaker 2: It's true.
- 1:57Speaker 1: By the way, clown pillow front and center.
- 1:59Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like nice shot of the clown pillar. It
- 2:02Speaker 4: was an interesting angle, like from up at the top
- 2:04Speaker 4: of the stairs.
- 2:05Speaker 3: Lay I I liked it actually, yeah, yeah, but I
- 2:09Speaker 3: thought the at the end I kind of forgot the
- 2:14Speaker 3: I kind of forgot the payoff with Kirk. Like so
- 2:17Speaker 3: when when it happened, I was like, oh, that was cute.
- 2:20Speaker 1: But yeah, in the beginning, I was like, this is
- 2:22Speaker 1: just a dumb scene.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a little park bench and
- 2:27Speaker 2: he left his gun in the house. But those private
- 2:29Speaker 2: security people.
- 2:30Speaker 4: They don't have guns, like you know, super realistic, but
- 2:34Speaker 4: I mean it stars hollow.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Also it's a new alarm system, so clearly like no
- 2:39Speaker 3: one has it right. And the mail, the mail stuff
- 2:43Speaker 3: was really funny. Yes, like in town meeting when they're
- 2:47Speaker 3: all like handing each other their stuff. I didn't have
- 2:53Speaker 3: any like I mean, I guess we can go through
- 2:56Speaker 3: our like the big moments, but like call outs, I
- 2:58Speaker 3: didn't have any.
- 3:00Speaker 1: I'm sure you do, but I didn't see any.
- 3:02Speaker 2: You know, not that many.
- 3:04Speaker 4: Like really, the only like thing that we really noticed
- 3:07Speaker 4: when we were watching it was that scene. It was
- 3:10Speaker 4: a very prop heavy scene where Luke was making that
- 3:15Speaker 4: shake or that smoothie for damn, popping the vegetables and
- 3:18Speaker 4: running the mixer and like there was a lot going
- 3:21Speaker 4: on there, and the vegetables in front of him kept changing,
- 3:23Speaker 4: like there would be like green onions and then there
- 3:26Speaker 4: were peppers, and like it just kept changing back and forth.
- 3:29Speaker 4: But other than that, there wasn't really that much. We
- 3:32Speaker 4: didn't find like really any you know, goofs or anything
- 3:35Speaker 4: like that.
- 3:35Speaker 3: It's funny you say that because I I was actually
- 3:39Speaker 3: watching because it looked like he was putting it in
- 3:42Speaker 3: like a drink shaker, like you know, like when you
- 3:45Speaker 3: make alcoholic drinks, they have that shaker. Yeah, it looked
- 3:48Speaker 3: like he was putting in that. And then when you
- 3:49Speaker 3: put it on and I was like, oh, it's a blender,
- 3:51Speaker 3: Like yeah, I realized what it was at first.
- 3:54Speaker 4: I was like, oh, yeah, it was like a metal blender,
- 3:57Speaker 4: metal one.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't notice the changing vegetables.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, it was. It was just one of those.
- 4:04Speaker 1: It's probably like ten scenes, ten takes in and like.
- 4:07Speaker 4: I know, it probably took them a long time because
- 4:09Speaker 4: there was a lot like he was doing a lot with.
- 4:11Speaker 2: His hands in that scene.
- 4:12Speaker 3: I know.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to get it all right every time.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, the dean of it all I just have
- 4:19Speaker 1: to get into.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so awkward.
- 4:23Speaker 1: So awkward? Well, which part of it was awkward for you?
- 4:26Speaker 4: Well, just the whole thing, really, the whole thing, like
- 4:29Speaker 4: her coming home and not realizing his wedding was that
- 4:31Speaker 4: weekend and then she runs into him, and then the
- 4:34Speaker 4: whole thing with Luke and don't go but he won't
- 4:37Speaker 4: tell them why.
- 4:38Speaker 3: That was the weirdest part to me like, yeah, you're
- 4:41Speaker 3: just going to take Luke's word, and then like it
- 4:45Speaker 3: felt a little weird, and I was like, well, Laura's
- 4:48Speaker 3: not going to go talk to Luke.
- 4:49Speaker 2: It's exactly that my husband and I were saying that
- 4:52Speaker 2: last night.
- 4:53Speaker 4: Like maybe with Rory she'd be like okay, whatever, but
- 4:55Speaker 4: Lorlay absolutely would not just let that stand.
- 4:59Speaker 2: She walking over to Luke's and saying, what's the deal.
- 5:03Speaker 4: She's not just gonna be like, oh, okay, I guess
- 5:05Speaker 4: we're not going just because Luke said some and we
- 5:07Speaker 4: don't know why.
- 5:08Speaker 2: I didn't find that that believable.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, me either, especially because like she bought the gift. Yeah,
- 5:16Speaker 3: Like I feel like season three, Laura I would be like, well,
- 5:19Speaker 3: I bought this gift, so we're gonna figure out why
- 5:21Speaker 3: you're not going or you're going, right?
- 5:24Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, it was like, give me the.
- 5:25Speaker 4: Reason why you're telling me, Like, she's not just gonna
- 5:29Speaker 4: She's not just gonna be like oh okay whatever.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Yeah. I did.
- 5:34Speaker 3: I did feel a little bad at the last scene
- 5:36Speaker 3: when she's watching the wedding. I don't know why, but
- 5:40Speaker 3: I felt like in my head, I was like, why
- 5:42Speaker 3: do I feel bad. I don't know, but I just
- 5:44Speaker 3: felt a little bad.
- 5:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you could see she I mean it
- 5:48Speaker 4: was a good nonverbal performance from Alexis because you could
- 5:52Speaker 4: really see what was happening inside her head even though
- 5:55Speaker 4: she was just standing there looking at it. But yeah,
- 5:57Speaker 4: you could see there was like some some regret there,
- 6:01Speaker 4: maybe some disappointment, but you know, she made her choice.
- 6:05Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it was good for her,
- 6:08Speaker 3: but I don't know if it was more regret as
- 6:12Speaker 3: it was disappointment because she's chose someone who didn't treat
- 6:19Speaker 3: her right and then left, and then now she is like,
- 6:22Speaker 3: well I had something good, I let that go.
- 6:25Speaker 1: He's taken and now I'm single.
- 6:26Speaker 3: Like, I don't think, and I mean, I guess it
- 6:30Speaker 3: takes us to the end of the season and that
- 6:31Speaker 3: I'm not going to tease, even though we all know
- 6:32Speaker 3: what happens. But I think it's more about what's going
- 6:37Speaker 3: on with her instead of what could have been. Mm.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
- 6:44Speaker 4: I mean, she made her choice and now she's alone,
- 6:48Speaker 4: and so.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Yeah, by choice, right, yeah, yeah.
- 6:54Speaker 4: Exactly like she it wasn't her choice, but I mean
- 6:57Speaker 4: it was her choice to leave Dean, but.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Then it was her choice where she is now, so yeah,
- 7:02Speaker 2: I agree.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:04Speaker 3: By the way, Jared looked great in this episode.
- 7:08Speaker 1: I thought he looked real cute.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Really, you know, the hair, I don't the long hair,
- 7:17Speaker 2: it's not.
- 7:18Speaker 3: Her It was the best part. I was like, oh
- 7:20Speaker 3: my god, he looks so cute.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Two thousand and three. Yeah, this was that time.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Of that that wavy long hair.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't quite my thing.
- 7:32Speaker 4: Oh well, I mean he's just handsome in general, but
- 7:34Speaker 4: oh yeah, the hair. The hair wasn't doing it for me.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Oh well, we all have our own opinions.
- 7:41Speaker 2: But speaking of hair, hair.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Yeah, well, okay, we'll get to that because well, I
- 7:46Speaker 3: guess let's talk about now, because it was a scene
- 7:48Speaker 3: the first year with her and Dina was like, man,
- 7:51Speaker 3: their haircuts are real similar.
- 7:54Speaker 1: I didn't like her. I don't like her that short.
- 7:56Speaker 4: You don't see I love her haircut like that. I
- 7:59Speaker 4: think that was a really good look for her. But
- 8:02Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that say that haircut signifies
- 8:06Speaker 4: when she starts to turn bad. A lot of people
- 8:09Speaker 4: are like, oh, you know, when she changes her hair,
- 8:11Speaker 4: that's when her personality starts to change. Meaning now, Yeah, no,
- 8:17Speaker 4: because then that's when she starts getting like more entitled
- 8:21Speaker 4: and you know, kind of I think it has more
- 8:24Speaker 4: to do with Yale and sort of the people that
- 8:28Speaker 4: she was surrounding herself with. But people use that as
- 8:32Speaker 4: like a landmark in the timeline.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I see.
- 8:34Speaker 3: I just thought it was like, you know, this new
- 8:37Speaker 3: school year, new haircut. I feel like people go all
- 8:39Speaker 3: the time too.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're like halfway through, you know, it's like
- 8:42Speaker 2: season four. They probably just wanted to do a little
- 8:46Speaker 2: change and yeah, but I thought it looked good. I
- 8:50Speaker 2: liked it.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Do you think or I guess because you know more
- 9:03Speaker 3: about what people say on like Red and stuff.
- 9:05Speaker 1: The scene where.
- 9:07Speaker 3: Between Luke and Dean when it's the morning after he
- 9:12Speaker 3: said Rory's name while drunk. Yeah, do we think he
- 9:16Speaker 3: remembered him saying that or does he not remember?
- 9:20Speaker 2: Dean remembered?
- 9:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he did because of the way that
- 9:25Speaker 4: Luke started to say something to him and Dean cut
- 9:28Speaker 4: him off.
- 9:29Speaker 3: Okay, I thought the same thing, but I was wondering
- 9:31Speaker 3: what you think and what I think Dean.
- 9:34Speaker 4: Had a vague memory of what he said, but he
- 9:38Speaker 4: was real drunk. He was he was pretty toasted. And
- 9:42Speaker 4: I also wonder, and I think maybe we mentioned this
- 9:45Speaker 4: on the last watch through, like did I wonder if
- 9:48Speaker 4: he ever realized that he was sleeping in Jess's bed.
- 9:55Speaker 2: At Luke's house at.
- 9:58Speaker 1: It Also, he looked giant in that bed.
- 10:00Speaker 2: I know, his feet were totally hanging.
- 10:02Speaker 3: It was like it was basically just his torso on
- 10:05Speaker 3: the bed. But then I couldn't tell if the bed
- 10:08Speaker 3: was small. I know Jared's like over six feet. It
- 10:10Speaker 3: was like probably a combination of both.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably was.
- 10:14Speaker 4: And And speaking of interesting camera angles, that was an
- 10:16Speaker 4: angle of Luke's apartment we don't see very much.
- 10:19Speaker 1: It was like it was like out the door, like
- 10:21Speaker 1: through I couldn't tell where it was.
- 10:22Speaker 4: No, it was I think it was from where the
- 10:25Speaker 4: where that that weird bathroom used to be in Like
- 10:29Speaker 4: in the Rachel era there was a bathroom there.
- 10:32Speaker 2: I think it was just from the corner of that room.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, weird angles this episode. Not weird, but just different.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely different.
- 10:39Speaker 4: But yeah, I feel like I definitely feel like I
- 10:44Speaker 4: started to say, Jared Dan was like, I don't know,
- 10:48Speaker 4: he had it in the back of his mind.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Yeah, and he even.
- 10:52Speaker 4: Seemed like that when he was talking to Rory on
- 10:55Speaker 4: the street because they were talking about the wedding and
- 10:59Speaker 4: they you know, how they were taking over the town
- 11:01Speaker 4: and she said something. One of them said something about
- 11:04Speaker 4: it being Lindsay's wedding and your wedding too, and he goes, yeah,
- 11:07Speaker 4: my wedding too, like almost like an afterthought, Like it
- 11:10Speaker 4: just seemed kind of yeah, like he wasn't so into
- 11:13Speaker 4: the whole wedding idea even though he's.
- 11:16Speaker 1: The one that proposed right.
- 11:17Speaker 3: I also do think it's weird that he just invited
- 11:20Speaker 3: Rory and then like Lindsay didn't know.
- 11:24Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to give the key to her a
- 11:25Speaker 4: head count like the week before.
- 11:27Speaker 3: It's also like I don't think i'd want my fiances
- 11:31Speaker 3: X at my wedding.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Oh totally yeah, and her mother and her mother.
- 11:37Speaker 3: Yeah, And it wasn't like it wasn't like, you know,
- 11:40Speaker 3: I think it's different if like it was a twenty
- 11:43Speaker 3: year difference and Rory was married with.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Kid right, like maybe maybe, but it was like a
- 11:47Speaker 1: year ago.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Yeah, it was still pretty fresh.
- 11:50Speaker 4: And it was definitely and even if I was Rory,
- 11:53Speaker 4: I wouldn't have wanted to go like it just would
- 11:56Speaker 4: have been too weird.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Do you think she wanted to go? I felt like
- 11:59Speaker 1: she just felt obligated.
- 12:01Speaker 4: I think she did, and she didn't know how to
- 12:04Speaker 4: say no because she was She kind of stumbled over
- 12:06Speaker 4: it a little bit, but she was so insistent that
- 12:09Speaker 4: she just went along with it, because yeah, that's how
- 12:11Speaker 4: she is.
- 12:12Speaker 2: But but yeah.
- 12:13Speaker 4: I don't think she was. I don't think she really
- 12:16Speaker 4: wanted to go either.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:18Speaker 4: Yeah, But did you notice how when she was sitting
- 12:20Speaker 4: in the gazebo reading and then the party set up
- 12:23Speaker 4: people come, she just like walks off and leaves her
- 12:26Speaker 4: She's like food in her trash and stef Yeah, in
- 12:29Speaker 4: the gazebo.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Well, I think she assumed they were going to move
- 12:32Speaker 1: into that rate.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Maybe yeah. Yeah.
- 12:36Speaker 3: We didn't get into the dragonfly of it all.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Yes, and Taylor's ridiculousness.
- 12:45Speaker 3: I mean it made great TV, even though he's very annoying.
- 12:49Speaker 3: But I was craving ice cream when Rory was eating
- 12:53Speaker 3: that chocolate ice cream.
- 12:55Speaker 1: We were talking.
- 12:55Speaker 2: About that, and she even had chocolate in the corners
- 12:57Speaker 2: of her mouth. Did you notice that?
- 13:00Speaker 3: I was like, Man, I really want to go to
- 13:01Speaker 3: like a baskin Robbins right now.
- 13:04Speaker 2: I know I want ice cream now.
- 13:06Speaker 3: They close the basket Robins by my house and I
- 13:09Speaker 3: don't go often, but you know, like a couple.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Of times a year you're like, let's go get ice cream.
- 13:13Speaker 3: Yeah. And I was craving it like maybe two weeks ago,
- 13:16Speaker 3: and it's right next to Chipotle.
- 13:18Speaker 1: It's like in a shopping center.
- 13:19Speaker 3: Hu And I was like, oh, maybe we'll get like
- 13:21Speaker 3: Chipotle and like get like a little like thing of
- 13:23Speaker 3: ice cream.
- 13:23Speaker 1: And I was like, and it.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Wasn't even like clothes. It was like sign gone, like
- 13:27Speaker 3: it disappeared overnight.
- 13:29Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, like rest in peace.
- 13:32Speaker 3: Basket in Robbins. But we have a Handle's ice cream
- 13:34Speaker 3: next to me now, so handle is great.
- 13:37Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a couple of those around hair and
- 13:40Speaker 4: we like those. I just I love ice cream.
- 13:42Speaker 1: I love ice cream.
- 13:44Speaker 3: I'm trying not to keep it in the house or else.
- 13:45Speaker 3: I feel like I'll go have a scoop every night.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, sing Hair.
- 13:49Speaker 3: If I get it, like we'll get like a one
- 13:51Speaker 3: pint and then we'll just like share it with my
- 13:53Speaker 3: family and so everyone gets like one, one or two
- 13:55Speaker 3: scoops and we're done after two days.
- 13:57Speaker 4: So yeah, I remember, way back in the day before
- 14:00Speaker 4: we had kids, my husband and I would go to
- 14:03Speaker 4: Coldstone and we'd get like that would be dinner, Like
- 14:06Speaker 4: we'd have Coldstone for dinner.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Done loved. Did you ever have a golden spoon that's
- 14:10Speaker 1: very California based?
- 14:12Speaker 4: No? Oh, my god, that's frozen yogurt, isn't it.
- 14:16Speaker 3: It's frozen yogurt, but it was so like creamy. I
- 14:20Speaker 3: can't really explain it. There used to be one in
- 14:23Speaker 3: this shopping center by my school, so, like when I
- 14:26Speaker 3: was in middle school, we would all like sometimes my
- 14:29Speaker 3: mom would be like, hey, can you walk down, I'll
- 14:30Speaker 3: meet you at like the girls and Spicyo.
- 14:32Speaker 1: It was just easier.
- 14:33Speaker 3: She's grocery, and I'd always go get it after school.
- 14:36Speaker 3: Like in middle school. It's like like all the kids
- 14:39Speaker 3: would walk down together and we'd be like, Oh, that
- 14:42Speaker 3: scene made me want ice cream so bad. I did
- 14:46Speaker 3: think it was funny though, because she like went back
- 14:48Speaker 3: to being a kid for a second, Like you're forgetting
- 14:52Speaker 3: that she's invited to her ex's wedding, right, She's just
- 14:55Speaker 3: sitting there and eating.
- 14:56Speaker 2: She's just so excited to have chocolate ice cream.
- 14:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I did like that they went and got Michelle back, yes,
- 15:02Speaker 3: and the town meeting was just I mean, it was
- 15:05Speaker 3: just fun.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:07Speaker 4: They made kind of a rude comment about French people.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I call that. But yeah, we'll blame it
- 15:16Speaker 1: on it being two thousand and three, I know.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Exactly, but it just was.
- 15:20Speaker 4: The whole thing was just from start to finish just
- 15:22Speaker 4: classic stars, like all the townspeople were doing their thing.
- 15:26Speaker 2: And it was a good episode. We got to see it.
- 15:28Speaker 3: I literally have like no notes. I like thoroughly enjoyed
- 15:31Speaker 3: watching this one.
- 15:32Speaker 4: I like when they took the picture at the end
- 15:34Speaker 4: with the sludge hammers, like just was a cute.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, very cute.
- 15:40Speaker 3: All right, Well, next week we'll be watching season four,
- 15:42Speaker 3: episode five, the Fundamental Things apply.
- 15:45Speaker 1: We'll see next week.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Meeting adjourned
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