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Why newest Russia-Ukraine peace plan is VERY STRANGE Ex-NATO ambassador · INSIGHT TODAY

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  Speaker 1: The US, as well as Ukraine, Germany, France, and the
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  Speaker 1: UK are expected to hold negotiations tomorrow in Geneva on
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  Speaker 1: President Trump's new plan to end Russia's war on Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff
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  Speaker 1: are expected to attend. The Trump administration says it will
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  Speaker 1: hold separate talks with Russia. Ukrainian President Zelenski says the
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  Speaker 1: latest US plan forces him to choose between his country's
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  Speaker 1: sovereignty and keeping US support. Let's bring in Kurt Volker,
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  Speaker 1: former US Ambassador to NATO, Ambassador of Vulkar. You probably
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  Speaker 1: have access to more of the details on what this
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  Speaker 1: proposal is than the rest of us. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think of it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it is incredibly one sided. It puts
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  Speaker 2: all the restrictions on Ukraine and none on Russia. And
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  Speaker 2: that's very strange because it is Russia that has attacked Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: We are calling in this agreement Fork to withdraw from
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  Speaker 2: some Ukrainian territory rather than calling on Russia.
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  Speaker 3: To withdraw from Ukrainian territory. So there are a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things that are off about this. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: very good that the US, UK, France.
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  Speaker 2: Germany and Ukraine are all meeting in Geneva to talk
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  Speaker 2: about this. I'm reminded of the Minerals Deal, where the
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  Speaker 2: first draft of that was also just a terrible document,
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  Speaker 2: but it was improved through negotiations, and let's hope that
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  Speaker 2: a similar process takes place here.
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  Speaker 1: The Russians invaded Crimea in the Obama administration, they didn't
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  Speaker 1: get much of a response from the West. Then they
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  Speaker 1: invade Mainland, you know, the main major part of Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: In the Biden administration. They still have a good chunk
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  Speaker 1: of the eastern part of that country. Should they be
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  Speaker 1: rewarded and allowed to keep it?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the confusing things about this US draft
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  Speaker 2: piece agreement is that it confuses the idea of de
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  Speaker 2: facto Russian control versus recognition. Literally says would be recognized
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  Speaker 2: as de facto Russian, which is a non secutur. You
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  Speaker 2: don't really know what that means Russia. None of the
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  Speaker 2: occupied territors should be recognized as Russian. They are by law,
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  Speaker 2: by recognition, by Russia's own past diplomatic recognition, all part
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  Speaker 2: of Ukraine. And we should not be legitimizing. And he
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  Speaker 2: gains for aggression like that. Similarly, Russia has committed heinous
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  Speaker 2: war crimes in Ukraine, abducting children, murdering civilians, targeting civilians
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  Speaker 2: deliberately with drones or amissals.
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  Speaker 3: These things need to be held to account, and.
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  Speaker 2: Just whitewashing that, as this agreement would do, would set
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  Speaker 2: a very bad precedent for future confidence.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've read that Russia is kind of hanging on
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  Speaker 1: by a thread. Their economy is in shambles, the sanctions
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  Speaker 1: have had a real bite. They've lost maybe a million
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  Speaker 1: and soldiers trying to take Ukraine, and we're about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to enter the winter fighting season, which is really the
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  Speaker 1: worst for both sides. Is it possible that if Ukraine
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  Speaker 1: could hang on for another six months that the Russians
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  Speaker 1: would just have to give up turntail and leave.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's certainly possible. At a minimum, I think we
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  Speaker 2: can get putin to a point where he sees an
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  Speaker 2: interest in a ceasefire in place. What this agreement that
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  Speaker 2: the USS proposed would do is give Russia more territory
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  Speaker 2: and many advantages limiting Ukraine's sovereignty in the future.
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  Speaker 3: So that is really a non starter. But if we
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  Speaker 3: can add to those woes.
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  Speaker 2: That Putin has financially, economically, militarily, then he may want
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  Speaker 2: to get a ceasefire in the not too distant future,
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  Speaker 2: and we should be jumping on that just to stop
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  Speaker 2: the war where it is, rather than creating all of
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  Speaker 2: these unnecessary guarantees for Russia.
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  Speaker 1: The Germans invaded France in World War Two and the
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  Speaker 1: United States never said, yeah you can, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: can go ahead and hang on to France. We kicked
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  Speaker 1: them out. Why not do that again. I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 1: US troops are not involved here, but US weapons certainly are.
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  Speaker 2: Right well, certainly, I think every US president that has
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  Speaker 2: dealt with it, Obama, Biden, and Trump, they have not
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  Speaker 2: wanted to get US military forces involved directly in fighting Russia.
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  Speaker 2: And that's partly because it could lead to escalation to
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  Speaker 2: nuclear weapons, so they're all cautious about that. But as
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  Speaker 2: you say, there is no reason to hold back, as
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  Speaker 2: the Biden administration did, and as now the Trump administration
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  Speaker 2: is doing no reason to hold back in giving Ukraine
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  Speaker 2: the weapons that it needs to defend itself, especially if
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  Speaker 2: they're being paid for by our European allies. So there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot more that could be on the table with
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  Speaker 2: the weaponry for Ukraine. They've also developed their own long
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  Speaker 2: range drones and long range missiles and are themselves able
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  Speaker 2: to take out military targets deep inside Russia. We should
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  Speaker 2: be facilitating that in order to get putin to one
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  Speaker 2: to have a cease five.
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  Speaker 1: The G twenty leaders issued a statement regarding the President's
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  Speaker 1: peace plan. Here's part of it. We are clear on
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  Speaker 1: the principle that borders must not be changed by force.
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  Speaker 1: We are also concerned by the proposed limitations on Ukraine's
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  Speaker 1: armed forces, which would leave Ukraine vulnerable to future attack. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's what the Russians have done here is tried to
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  Speaker 1: change the border.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and that's what they claim to have
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  Speaker 2: done by having votes in their parliament to say that
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  Speaker 2: they have now annexed these five provinces that are part
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  Speaker 2: of Ukraine. No one else in the world recognizes that,
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  Speaker 2: nor should they, Just as that G twenty statement says,
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  Speaker 2: taking other countries territory by force is unacceptable. That's a
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  Speaker 2: terrible precedent for future war.
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  Speaker 1: Real quickly, I want to put up the key points
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  Speaker 1: to the President's Ukraine Russia peace plan. One of them
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  Speaker 1: says Ukraine would receive reliable security guarantees. Well, if you
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  Speaker 1: give Russia a big chunk of Ukraine white nat right now,
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  Speaker 1: what's to prevent them from taking another chunk down the road.
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  Speaker 3: That's right?
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  Speaker 2: And why would Ukraine believe in any of these security
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  Speaker 2: guarantees if the countries that are going to offer those
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  Speaker 2: guarantees are signing away Ukrainian territory as we speak. You
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  Speaker 2: also have to remember there is something called the Budapest
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  Speaker 2: Memorandum signed in the mid eighties where Ukraine gave up
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  Speaker 2: its nuclear weapons in exchange for security guarantees from the
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  Speaker 2: United States, the UK, France, and Russia.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Russia flagrantly violated that by attacking Ukraine and we
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  Speaker 3: did nothing. Uk did nothing, France did nothing.
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  Speaker 2: So you could see why the Ukrainians don't really believe
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  Speaker 2: that security guarantees short of NATO membership are actually going
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  Speaker 2: to be followed through on.
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  Speaker 3: They're very, very skeptical for good reason.
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  Speaker 1: Ambassador Kurt Volker, it's good to have your insights.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, it's a pleasure.
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