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Almost Famous OG: A Gold Mine with Golden Tate · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hello everybody,
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  Speaker 1: We're reunited. Bob, We're back, AFO G's are back.
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  Speaker 2: Reunited, and it feels so good.
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  Speaker 3: I love missed you, t I missed you, Tea Bone.
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  Speaker 4: I mean right, I was so sad.
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  Speaker 1: I kept seeing all the social media posts that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I know it started when I actually started
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  Speaker 2: the week before though, when I went to Dallas. I
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  Speaker 2: think you had to do three or four interviews without me.
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  Speaker 2: I missed I missed Marion Jones, I missed the other
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  Speaker 2: two d s.
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  Speaker 4: H miss Rudy and Billy.
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  Speaker 1: You missed my recap with Christy. You have been a
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  Speaker 1: traveling fool.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know.
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  Speaker 4: All of them were amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I had such good conversations with everybody. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's no shock, like I love all of the cast,
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  Speaker 1: members of the cast, recruits on this season and of
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  Speaker 1: Special Forces, and it was just it's been so fun
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  Speaker 1: to talk to everybody. So I'm so glad that you
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  Speaker 1: actually get to be a part of this one finally
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  Speaker 1: one of them.
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  Speaker 5: I know me too.
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  Speaker 2: And so let's recap now, so we know every Let's
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  Speaker 2: go through everyone that's left the show.
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  Speaker 3: So far, so we've lot Stephen Baldwin, Steve Niece, Richards, Denise,
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  Speaker 3: then of course yours truly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Then after that, Jordan.
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  Speaker 3: Jordan, Nathan Adrian and.
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  Speaker 4: Marion Jones, Marion Landon, Landon.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of those are all. A lot of those
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  Speaker 3: were medical.
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  Speaker 1: Too, Yes, a lot of them were medical. And Golden
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  Speaker 1: is still in it.
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  Speaker 3: Golden still in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, So let's bring him in. I'm so excited, let's.
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  Speaker 3: Bring him in. I cannot wait.
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  Speaker 2: I have not seen Golden Tate in quite some time,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm a big fan for many reasons, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: excited to touch base them and share those.
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  Speaker 3: So hello, well it's up going to the third Hello. Hello,
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  Speaker 3: how are we doing, Gang? Oh we're doing great, man,
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  Speaker 3: We're doing great. Great to have you on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 5: My pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: I was actually just watching your your podcast with Nathan,
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  Speaker 2: and you got me laughing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was great.
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  Speaker 2: But I love that you guys both agreed that it's
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  Speaker 2: time to get everyone of every ethnicity in the pool.
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  Speaker 3: Amen of that, and I couldn't agree with you more.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it was. It was a great topic
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  Speaker 3: to have with him, though, he's such a thoughtful guy. Now, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 6: To spend enough time with Nathan, but right away, like
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  Speaker 6: we just kind of hit it off, and like I
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  Speaker 6: spent a lot of time with him in the vans
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  Speaker 6: going to the different missions, and I just really enjoyed
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  Speaker 6: like picking his brain. We're kind of in a similar
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  Speaker 6: space as far as like new babies into our family,
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  Speaker 6: trying to figure out the dynamic of how to be
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  Speaker 6: a good dad, but also our sport is kind of done,
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  Speaker 6: and trying to figure out how to manage dad and
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  Speaker 6: find a new purpose. And so we had some really
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  Speaker 6: good conversations and he's just a sweet, sweet, big teddy
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  Speaker 6: bear that was always happy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems like a golden Before we get two
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  Speaker 2: into stuff, I want to I want to remind you
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  Speaker 2: how we've met. So I first met you with Scott
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  Speaker 2: Fitter many years ago when you were at the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of my best friends and he was like
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  Speaker 2: the director of player personnel. And then then we met
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  Speaker 2: Jermaine introduced us to play with my buddy Dave Ross.
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  Speaker 2: We played golf a couple times, but Dave, do you
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  Speaker 2: remember Dave?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm usually really really really good
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  Speaker 6: at with faces in this case, so I logged us like, man,
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  Speaker 6: that name, I know that name from somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He was like he owned an insurance company out in Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: and was like mutual friends. And we ended up playing
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  Speaker 2: golf a few times, and man, you are a stud
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  Speaker 2: on the course. When they told me that, they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well Golden wants to you know, wait a little bit
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  Speaker 2: before we do the inter because he's finished up around
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  Speaker 2: the golf.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, not a surprise, man, the guy could crush it.
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  Speaker 3: And then the.
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  Speaker 2: Last today, the last time we met, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: show you some I have a three year old and
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  Speaker 2: from watching videos.
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  Speaker 3: The last time we met was when you.
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  Speaker 2: Were in Detroit, and get what my three year old's
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  Speaker 2: jersey is.
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  Speaker 3: Stark.
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  Speaker 5: This isn't that crazy? That makes me so happy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's honestly, it's so funny. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: he's like, I love going. I'm like, how do you?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, okay, you know, but I guess it's just
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  Speaker 3: some like watching videos and watching old stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, because I used to do a lot
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  Speaker 2: with the Lions franchise when and now, of course this
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  Speaker 2: year you were one of the voices of the Lions
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  Speaker 2: in the preseason too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so did some work with them and had some fun.
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  Speaker 6: But man, calling them games is hard. It's not hard
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  Speaker 6: because I'm talking about football, not football at the back
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  Speaker 6: of my hand, but talking football and trying to articulate it.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm not talking down to people, but all so
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  Speaker 6: articulated where they can understand what's going on is like
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  Speaker 6: a gift in it and so like you listen to
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  Speaker 6: try Eightman and.
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  Speaker 5: Joe Buck and they make it sound easy, but it's
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  Speaker 5: it's a true gift.
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  Speaker 6: And so I'm been in the in the lab trying
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  Speaker 6: to grind it and figure out where in that space.
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  Speaker 3: You know, who I love is that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's gotta be tough, but I
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  Speaker 2: think I think someone who really made a quick transition
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  Speaker 2: to that is Tony Romo, like from a from a
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  Speaker 2: not Some people don't like the.
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  Speaker 3: Intricacies of the game that he gets into, but.
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  Speaker 2: I really do, you know, because I played at Michigan
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  Speaker 2: State years ago, and so in my mind it's like
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  Speaker 2: taking me back to the to what could have been
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, yeah, much like this show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, much like this show could have been. Talk
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  Speaker 3: I talk about this all the time. I'm always like, man,
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  Speaker 3: this is the show I wish I could have been on.
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  Speaker 3: You know. She's like, well, they might still call you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but after watching it, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I could do it.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Where do we even start?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, Well, actually I'd love to start with
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  Speaker 1: just how you got approached, how you decided to actually
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm actually out in Bend, Oregon at the time,
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  Speaker 6: and I met a wedding with my wife one of
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  Speaker 6: her best friends. It's getting married out in Oregon, and
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  Speaker 6: I get this text message and hey, would you be
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  Speaker 6: interested in being on Special Forces World Sevice Tests. At
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  Speaker 6: this point, I hadn't even really heard of the show,
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  Speaker 6: had definitely hadn't watched it, and so I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you know whatever, So kind of forgot about it. And
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  Speaker 6: then a day later while I was still in the
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  Speaker 6: organ and say, hey, just you know the excellent emphasizing
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  Speaker 6: the message like hey, makes you've seen this and stuff
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  Speaker 6: like whatever. So I ended up like watching a few
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  Speaker 6: like seconds like teasers and trailers, and half an episode.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, oh, Okay, I feel like I could
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  Speaker 6: do this. This could be fun, is what I think.
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  Speaker 6: I said fun. Uh, you know, we negotiated back and forth,
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  Speaker 6: and eventually I had my mind. I said that I
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  Speaker 6: was going to do it as a nice, fun, little challenge,
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  Speaker 6: and then I dove right into it.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I only had about three weeks before it was.
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  Speaker 6: Time to like, you know, go to London and Wales,
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  Speaker 6: so I didn't have much time to prepare.
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  Speaker 5: And boy was it was a rude awakening. When I
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  Speaker 5: got there. I showed up thinking this is gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 6: And from the very first moment they took those potato
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  Speaker 6: bags off our faces in the middle of water. Stuff
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  Speaker 6: got real quick. I got PTSD almost like thinking about
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  Speaker 6: some of the stuff. But you know, it was kind
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  Speaker 6: of like anything, you know, I had his ups and downs.
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  Speaker 6: I would definitely say it was the hardest thing I've
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  Speaker 6: ever done because it was mentally, emotionally and physically very
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  Speaker 6: very tough. And in most jobs in the world, physically
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  Speaker 6: you might have a tough day maybe emotionally, but mentally
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  Speaker 6: you're probably okay or but you never have like all
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  Speaker 6: all three of them boxes get checked out daily, and
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  Speaker 6: they found a way to check those box every single day,
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  Speaker 6: and it was just kind of wearing you down, and
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  Speaker 6: like the psychology of it. They were so they were
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  Speaker 6: really good, like at placing different things in our minds,
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  Speaker 6: Like day seven is when they are eight or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: They have us. They show us videos of our family.
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  Speaker 6: If they were to showed these videos on day one
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  Speaker 6: or two, we probably yeah, okay, whatever. But at day
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  Speaker 6: seven where we were thinking, like I'm looking for a reason,
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  Speaker 6: like to get out of here because it's hard, and
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  Speaker 6: we know it's just going to get harder and harder
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  Speaker 6: each day.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, for me, those three things just made
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  Speaker 5: it tough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's tough. I mean the same thing I've
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  Speaker 1: said it over and over again, hardest thing I've ever done.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed in your pre interview. So when we're in
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  Speaker 1: London before the show starts, we do all the interview
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  Speaker 1: stuff and they ask us a billion questions of like
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  Speaker 1: what if this and what if that?
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  Speaker 4: And what if this?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: But what I noticed in your pre interview I kept
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  Speaker 1: getting drawn to one of your necklaces that was around
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  Speaker 1: your neck and it looked like it was maybe made
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  Speaker 1: my little teeny tiny hands. Can you tell us the
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  Speaker 1: story of your maybe necklaces, but especially that necklace?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, My daughter London, who is now seventh six at
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  Speaker 6: the time, knew we were getting ready for this big trip,
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  Speaker 6: but me and my wife kind of censored her from
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  Speaker 6: what was going on because we started to explain it
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  Speaker 6: to her, like Dad's about to go to the show,
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  Speaker 6: and right away she was like she saw like ten
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  Speaker 6: seconds of was like.
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  Speaker 5: No, Daddy, I don't want you to go, Like you
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  Speaker 5: can't go like that, just don't go and tell them
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  Speaker 5: you can't do it, say you're hurt. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: oh no, no, make it back.
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  Speaker 6: And then the data I left, she gave me this
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  Speaker 6: necklace that I put on as I'm like in the
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  Speaker 6: car head to the airport and I'm already like getting
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  Speaker 6: them over like man, because I just don't want to
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  Speaker 6: leave my babies, but also not have any contact with
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  Speaker 6: any of my family for however long I guess. Now
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  Speaker 6: we know that I was there for at least ten days.
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  Speaker 6: So I was kind of nervous, frightened, had a little anxiety,
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  Speaker 6: and so I put that necklace on and it was
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  Speaker 6: weird because it gave me comfort. Whenever I would look
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  Speaker 6: myself in the mirror, I would see, you know, in
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  Speaker 6: my reflection, I would see my family who I was representing,
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  Speaker 6: and I had a real deep pride to like make
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  Speaker 6: them proud, And so it was a good reminder, like
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  Speaker 6: when things got tough, like to just look down and
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  Speaker 6: know that my little ones who loved me for just me,
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  Speaker 6: they don't really care of the outcome. They just care
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  Speaker 6: that Daddy comes back home and gives me a big hug.
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  Speaker 6: And so it motivated me.
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  Speaker 1: I love that I figured that one of your one
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  Speaker 1: of your kiddo's made that necklace. I'm like, I just
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  Speaker 1: have to hear the story, and I do have to
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  Speaker 1: say if she listens, or if you want to, just
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  Speaker 1: tell her and tell your wife, tell your kids. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, I'd love to meet them at some point someday,
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  Speaker 1: but please tell them from me that for sure, they
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  Speaker 1: should be so proud of you. I mean, obviously it
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  Speaker 1: speaks for itself, like you lasted as long as you've
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  Speaker 1: lasted so far, and you've done such amazing things, but
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  Speaker 1: the fact that you really truly kind of took care
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  Speaker 1: of people like me who I just I just couldn't
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  Speaker 1: do stuff. I just couldn't carry my pack, and I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't run, and I couldn't whatever all these things and
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  Speaker 1: instead of just you know, forging towards the front and
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  Speaker 1: focusing and keeping your head down. You were always looking
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  Speaker 1: out for the little people like me. So thank you
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  Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart. I like one of
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  Speaker 1: the main reasons I wanted to have you on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: And I know I've said this in person, but I
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  Speaker 1: want the world to know that you just have such
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  Speaker 1: a huge heart. And I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 1: have I don't know if I would have stayed for
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  Speaker 1: the just two short days that I stayed had you
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  Speaker 1: not been there. So thank you, and they should for
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  Speaker 1: sure be so proud of you.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 6: I know we I really enjoyed my time with you
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  Speaker 6: and everyone else, and I was able to acknowledge that,
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  Speaker 6: you know, maybe I'm going to be physically stronger than
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  Speaker 6: other people, and I always felt like I had more
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  Speaker 6: in the tank and went I went into this like
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  Speaker 6: with a mindset of like, hey, look, there's no like
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  Speaker 6: clear winner in this, Like there's not like we make
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  Speaker 6: it to the end, we get like this huge big
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  Speaker 6: paycheck or anything.
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  Speaker 5: It's just like you pass it or you don't.
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  Speaker 6: And like my goal going into is like, hey, I
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  Speaker 6: want everyone to go as far as they possibly can.
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  Speaker 6: So if I can provide any physical help or mental
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  Speaker 6: emotional support, I'm going to do that. And because it
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  Speaker 6: was always better with us and numbers and so like it. Truly,
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  Speaker 6: it really hurt when, you know, when you finally tapped out.
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  Speaker 6: But I was really proud that you. You know, each
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  Speaker 6: and every mission, you fought as long and as much
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  Speaker 6: as you could. And I was really proud because you
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  Speaker 6: could see, you could see and feel that Trista was
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  Speaker 6: given everything she had even when she didn't have anything left,
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  Speaker 6: and she was trying her best, and you know, eventually
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  Speaker 6: you walked away, and it made me.
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  Speaker 1: Sad, oh golden that morning. I feel like had it
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  Speaker 1: not been so chaotic that morning, I would have stayed.
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  Speaker 2: Like.
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  Speaker 1: It was just so chaotic with the like gunshots or
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  Speaker 1: whatever was in the trash can. It was just so
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  Speaker 1: stressful and I was like, I just my body told
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  Speaker 1: me last night that I it was at its limit,
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  Speaker 1: and now mentally I'm like, I just can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: And you looked at me and you said, I told you.
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  Speaker 1: I pulled you aside and I said, I'm going to go,
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  Speaker 1: said are you sure? I said, I was like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't want to be a burden anymore. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you've given enough of your time to
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  Speaker 1: me that I want you to focus on your your journey.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I was ready.
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  Speaker 5: We had hey, I was read.
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  Speaker 6: I was prepared to help you through the next day
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  Speaker 6: and the next days as much as I possibly could.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, I know, I know, And you made
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  Speaker 6: it back safely and healthy and hopefully mentally in a
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  Speaker 6: good in a decent place. We definitely missed you. But hey,
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  Speaker 6: look I get it. You know that that one song
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  Speaker 6: R Kelly song that we don't really want to use
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  Speaker 6: his name too much, but you know that song.
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  Speaker 5: My mind is telling me no, but my body, my
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  Speaker 5: body tell me that's how it was on that it
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  Speaker 5: was on mount a few times, like I can, like, god, Lee,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if I can do this.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I also want to draw attention to one thing
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  Speaker 1: that I really noticed watching the last episode, and that was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when we got to the bridge the first day,
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  Speaker 1: the bucks were bad, but they were nothing like when
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  Speaker 1: you guys got back to the bridge to do the
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  Speaker 1: breakman thing. Was it so hard to deal with that? Like,
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  Speaker 1: how did you deal with it. Was it something that
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  Speaker 1: was a problem and they just didn't show you guys
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  Speaker 1: dealing with that because I was like, holy crap, they
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  Speaker 1: are swarming around Billy and anyone who was down waiting
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  Speaker 1: to be the brakeman or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was gnarly.
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  Speaker 6: It was so gnarly both times when we did the jump,
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  Speaker 6: but also the Brakeman and none stop just smacking your face,
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  Speaker 6: swatting them away for several hours, and you were like
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  Speaker 6: hoping that a breeze would come to just let them go.
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  Speaker 5: Somewhere else, but they just kept picking at you.
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  Speaker 6: And I remember on the Brakeman when we got back
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  Speaker 6: to Billy who was at the bottom, and I kept
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  Speaker 6: like trying to get him out of here, get him
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  Speaker 6: out of here.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, what are you scared of? They're just bugs.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, man, these little things bite and then these
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  Speaker 6: little red marks. Actually, but you know, stop swatting your face.
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  Speaker 6: I I wasn't get in trouble for visiting again and
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  Speaker 6: get stuck in it again, which I was pissed off
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  Speaker 6: that they did not show that an episode.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: No, okay, you need to tell everybody about it. Please
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: tell everybody about it right now?
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: Okay, so day one, Day one, we finally get back
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: to the living quarters after getting thrown off a boat
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: and having to swim like a triathlon or something, we hike.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: We finally get back and they he Billy makes a
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: comment of like something that we're doing wrong, and I
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: just like quickly like kind of pulled my shirt down
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: to make sure I'm like a uniform.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: And they saying, you know, oh, no, stop feting.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: You will be punished for that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, dang, the worst.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: You don't want to hear, and everyone like straightens up,
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: but I get called out, and then eventually everyone goes
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: to the to see the living quarters, the mess hall,
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: the showers, the toilets and whatnot. Number nine come with
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: me and they put me in what we called as
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: a group, the chicken coop. Okay, the chicken coop is
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: probably what two feet underground and probably two feet above ground,
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: so it's high enough where you know, I can't I
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: can stand, but I can't like fully stand up like
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: I have to, Like I don't know, it's like a
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: child's pose, like when a cowld like sits and he's
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: pooping his diaper or something like that.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: There like mites while everyone's.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Like just jogging around camp, and it became kind of
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: like a fun little game for me. I was like, man,
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: maybe I get one of the recruits to look over
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: here and like me like acting like a chicken.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: And I got a few people.
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: I remember Brody like looked over and he saw me
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: being goofy and but so he didn't want to last,
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: so he was like look straight ahead again, but smirked.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: And I think I got a few other people.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: But I was a dang so I get in trouble
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: as soon as we get on to camp.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: But they didn't show that they didn't.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: I actually pointed it out to Ryan.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, that is the chicken coop and where
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Golden had had to squat, gosh, not sit.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Like, not be on your knees.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: You were like you described it perfectly with a kid
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: pooping in their diaper or something.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: I hadn't hurt it, buddy, I played football for twelve years. Okay,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: these knees and ankles and toes have been through some
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: things putting on them boots and then get stuck in
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: a chicken coop that was brutal.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And not only were you hiking, but you were carrying
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: somebody else's pack and yeah, you had a pack.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: In the front of the pack in the back. Yeah
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: eighty pounds.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: Even I guess, but I mean I could not believe,
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: like that's how we started at all.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Man. I was like, dang, that is crazy.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was going to say, you know, one of
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the things I thought was that we were talking about,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: like even the episode with Trista, the two episodes of Trista,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I was so emotional.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I'm like text her on the side.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm just so proud of you guys,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: you know, And I feel like, even though we've only
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: met a few times, always felt like I knew you.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: But I will say this, I think one of the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: things that this show has done for a lot of
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the people that've been on the show, not that they
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: need it, is that it's really highlighted things that people
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: wouldn't know about you otherwise. Right, Like everyone knows you've
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: been a standout since high school, college, pros, the whole bit,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: but they didn't know that you had the ability to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: really kind of go deep, you know, and you did.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, like, you and Brody in particular, were
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: two people that I've known for years from different things
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and watching guys on that show, I was like, oh
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: my god, I feel like I just you know, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you were right, like the different levels that they go
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: to with you guys, and how they get you there,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: but you weren't afraid to go there emotionally, which I
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: thought was pretty crazy.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, and man, well, thank you so much
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: for noticing that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of went into it, like.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: My foundations work closely with our military veterans. I've always
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: thought our military veterans are like real life superheroes. Yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: I understand the sacrifices that they've given for our freedom.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: I've visited Frankfurt, Germany, and Kuwait on the USO tour.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: I've always paid homage, and the NFL has like months
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: dedicated to our military, and I've spent a lot of
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: time with them and heard stories, but I've never had
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: a chance to actually live it. And we probably only
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: lived a tenth of what they actually go through. And
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: all six recruits, we knew that we were going back
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: home at some point, and we knew it was going
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: to be within right now or in ten days. And
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: that's not the luxury that they have. Like they were
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: out there not hoping that they were going to go home.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: And so I guess the point I was making is
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: that I took myself mentally to a place that in
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: every scenario I was going to try to envision that
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: I was a man or a woman serving our country
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: and what it was actually going to be like, because
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: I really wasn't.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Worried about dying. I really wasn't worried.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: You know, I don't like heights, but I know that
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: I was not going to die on jumping off a bridge.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Was.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I wasn't claustrophobic. I do hate the water.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: They didn't tell about it to me that I wasn't
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: really scared of like any of that, And so I
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: was able to take myself before, before, after during every mission, like, man,
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: what would a soldier actually be thinking right now? And
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: just those thoughts kind of made me like get really
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: emotional and tear up.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're you were compassionate to everybody. It was.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: It was It was really cool, man, I will say,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: you know, being I think Q when we had Q
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: on we talked about this a little bit trist that
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: was you know, you you get used to watching everybody
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: from Afar, right especially with NFL players and stuff, and
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: you think you know them right, like you think you
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: know I would think your touchdown dances and you know
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: your posts.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, yeah, he's a funny guy. He
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: does this and this.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: But then when you see in those moments and it's like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: you know, oh that's right, they're just a person just
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: like me. They're going through the same emotions I'm going through,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: you know, or whatever. And it was really I thought
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: it was a really great thing for you, especially the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: way that you embrace that side of it, because I'm
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: sure that's that's got to be something that challenges a
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: lot of the professional athletes to go on there.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, so thanks for seeing that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, man.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I was proud for you, like like I knew, like
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I like I knew yet, but yeah, but Trista, Man,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I still say this this day, Trista on that show
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: to see one of like someone who I've known now
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: for twenty years very closely, to go through the things
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: that she went through and just to push to that
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: next level.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I was impressed, Trista. I really was. You know, I
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: think I've told you, but it really is the truth.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: You did great.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I mean, I feel like the two days
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: is nothing. And actually I don't know your you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: we have to wait and find out how long you last,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: if you last until the very end, golden. But for me,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you know, coming home, I was at you, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I was at such a peaceful place when I left.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, it's the right time. But I have
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: thought like maybe I should have pushed through and kept going,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you know, and then there's this battle, you know, back
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and forth. But gosh, the two days is nothing, I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: feel like compared to what you guys have done, the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: being freaking.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Buried all lit b.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, so I don't know what if you've had
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: any experience with reality television, but obviously I have a
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: little bit for you know, twenty two whatever years, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I know that producers are going to ask you. If
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: they ask you certain questions and you answer them, they're
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: going to use it against you, you know, against you.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: So when they asked what our biggest fears were, I
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: did not mention being buried alive was one of them.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: And I can't just because I knew, okay, maybe they'll
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: take that and run with it and I'll actually be
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: buried alive. And I didn't want to give them information,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and you guys actually did it. I think that would
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: be my worst fear. Was that one of the worst
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: tasks for you? Or were you able to just mentally
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: like zen out and deal with it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: So when we showed up to this I can't remember,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: did were you there for the buds training?
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, So we showed up to that
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: same location of the bus training. My heart stopped.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: I was like no, no, no, no, no, not long again,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: not longer again. Please, I can't, I can't do this again.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: And then it was like, almost like when I heard
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: when I figured out we were getting buried, it was
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: kind of like, Okay, I can deal with this, which
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: was really yeah, because it was like physically, you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to get crushed now. What was hard
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: for me again was like once we got in that
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: box and I understand, I tried to take to like
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: understand the magnitude of what was actually happening in real
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: life for men and women, and like that's what kind
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: of like got me and crushed me, like because like
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: I said, I wasn't claustrophobic, and you know, I didn't
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: know if we're going to be in there for thirty
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: minutes or three hours, it really didn't matter. But it
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: took me to a place of thinking, like, like, as humans,
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: we make so many mistakes throughout the day, and you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: in life, but hours a lot of there's not really
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: a consequence for our mistake, right, and our men and
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: women who serve our country and these missions A minor
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: a minor mistake such as not half your button button
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: or a shoelace not tied can result in your best
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: friend being killed at war, and like thinking about thinking about, like, man,
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: if something, if I were to make, you know, skip
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: a step in whatever the situation was the result of,
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: like me having a give American flag to my best
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: friend's wife and say, hi, I'm sorry that your husband
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: and also the father and children is no longer coming
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: home because of the silly, careless mistake I made. And
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: so I was able to like sit there and think
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: about that, like how many times has it actually happened?
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: At war?
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: But it's also made me respect my military is so
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: much more of the elite discipline that you have to have,
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: and like, along with that discipline comes like the focused
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: part of it, controlling your heart rate and very chaotic situations,
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: and it's it's not something that's easy to do. You
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: have to train yourself. And so like that's another reason
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: like I admire them so much. So like kind of
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: what you're saying, Like it wasn't really the burier being
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: buried apart, it was like the thought of, like how
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: we got to this point.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: That's a great perspective. Lore able to tap into that?
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Like is that something that you feel like you've been
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: able to tap into in normal life? Like getting back
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to your real life? Because for me, you know, one
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: thing I took away, one major thing I took away
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: from the show is just that I am really lucky.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I live in a country where we have
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: soldiers who fight for our freedom and I have, you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: a beautiful family and so many blessings. And I left
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: with that kind of perspective, and you know, in times
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that I get frustrated, I try to remember that, you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and tap into that. Is that something that you feel
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the same, you know, did you take away the same
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: kind of things? And are you able to use that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: perspective in your daily life?
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: You know, it's a space that I'm unfamiliar with, and
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: at times uncomfortable. I grew up just a little bit different,
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: and I almost was taught not to feel.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: And so that's where sports placed such a big part
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: in my life. Is that I didn't grow up the
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: most fortunate and having dinner every night and having all
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: the necessities of to be successful in life were at school.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: But sports is where I went to feel like I
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: was okay and that was good enough. And so you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't change any of that, you know, to the
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: journey of where I got, but it kind of taught me, like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: you know, perspective is everything, kind of to your question,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: is I was taught not to feel, And so I've
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: been working on that through through professionals of like flocking
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: into my emotions and understanding like my childhood to how
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: I got to this point and being you know, more
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: compassionate because I feel like whenever things would go away
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: in life, I would just flip the switch off and
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: try to ignore the emotion, ignore the feelings, and I
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: would just run away from it and go straight to
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: like a sports field. It even happens now, like whenever
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: I get angry at my kids or me and my
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: wife have a disagreement, instead of like talking about it
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: and working through it. I run away from it and
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I go play a sport or I'm a thirty six
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: year old that goes and plays Call of Duty or something.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: I just kind of avoid those feelings. I've been working
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: on just trying to like be okay with these feelings.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Likes. My feelings are my feelings.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: I own those for the rest of the time, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: it's okay if I feel a certain way, even though
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: maybe I shouldn't feel that way, but that's my feelings.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: And so acknowledging that is something I went into this
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: wanting to pay a lot of attention to.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: And also perspective.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: I think perspective is so key just in life, and
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: I think it's something that we all need to focus
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: a little bit more on, because, look, the truth matters.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: I can be living in the middle of North Dakota
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: and I can personally think it is the greatest place
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: on the entire planet.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: But I can also, in the same sense.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: Probably make it make it seem like it's the worst
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: place on the entire planet.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: So it's just how do you think about it? How
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: do you think about it?
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Like being on Special Forces made me really think about
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: like that what am I really complaining about in life?
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: Like what really truly matters and what doesn't truly matter?
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: And like I'm cheating myself If I'm not gonna remember
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: what was going with like while I was mad next week,
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: then I need to drop it. And it's hard to
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: do at times, and so like just kind of you know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: I could have very easily felt sorry for myself, but
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: instead I said, you know what, instead of feeling sorry
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: for myself, I'm gonna I know that there's someone who
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: has it way worse than I am than I do.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: In converse, I can probably make an excuse for there's
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: someone who has it way better than me. But my
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: cards are my cards, and it's like what I do
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: with it moving forward. And so I was able to
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: like go into this thing like with kind.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Of like a.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: Like a very broad plan and perspective on it, and
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: kind of I was able to hang on to it
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: and kind of focus on those few little pillars.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: It almost seems like you made a spiritual journey out
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: of it too, you know, like I know you were
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: keeping a journal and you know you were doing things
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: like that which would really keep you in touch with
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: those feelings. So you know, that's that's kind of that's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: huge man, to be able to go through that, especially
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: you know where you're at with your life. Like you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you were pretty open in the mirror room talking to
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the guys like I'm just trying to figure out what's next,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: you know, And that's a hard thing for a man
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to say, right that you don't know what's next, especially
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: with all the success you've had. So I can imagine
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: it's got to you know, it's got to really kind
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: of hit a nerve. Did you have you gone back
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: and looked at any of the of the journal entries
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: that you made while you were on the show, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: have you have they resonated with you at all?
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: I read them at the reunion out in LA and
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: then I I actually keep them in my backpack and
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: I looked at them from time to time just to
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: refer to. You know, over time, you just forget details
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: unless you're telling me every day. So I've forgotten a
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: few little things and they refer back to it. I'm like,
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: oh my gosh, Like I giggle, you know, listening to
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: the theme or the note of the day that I made,
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: and you know, like kind of like you like you said, like, yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: it was. I was very spiritual with it, and I
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: think I think that's what we as people need to
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: kind of lean in on a little bit more. I
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: think we get caught up thinking we need to we can,
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: and we need to fix every single problem. But the
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: God that I serve wants us to lean on him
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: at our weakest moments and let him do the work.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: And I promise that if that, if I could just
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: trust in God's plan and not my own plan, I'm
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: going to come out of this much more stronger, with
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: greater perspective, a humble heart, a serving heart, more wisdom,
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: and a better understanding on what truly matters.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: And so trying to like keep that theme.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: In my mind when I am being pulled by the
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: enemy to be selfish or to say something that's not factual,
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: or talk about someone or just act in a not
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: good way, I just have to remember that and also remember, like, man,
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: I serve a God that gave it all up for
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: me and said, being able to like remind myself and
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: not feel sorry for myself has kind of helped me
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: and it just makes my problems feel small. And although
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: these problems are big in this moment, but in the
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: grand scheme of things, it's really it doesn't matter. And
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: to people out there that are going through stuff, it's
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: okay to go through stuff, and there's someone else's going
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: through stuff. So find you someone that you can talk to,
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: that you trust and can and can work out of
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: this this right. But more importantly, like lean on God,
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: like God has got you, and that we have a
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: God that's so much bigger than anything we can even
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: understand and and do my trials, if we just seek
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: to be closer to our God, I promise you we're
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: going to come back out of it and be strong longer.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: And so sorry to turn this into like a church service, no.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Truth, Yeah that's what happens.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, man, you think about it that way, everyone
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: that goes through this show, especially if they come through
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: with that kind of perspective, Golden, I mean, it'd be
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: a whole different.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: World, buddy, I mean, you know, it really would.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, people going through this, I mean it's like
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: it really is a challenge for everyone, and it's a shame.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: It's only what thirteen people or sixteen people or how
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: many people started the season, I can't remember, Yeah, sixteen people.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: So it's shame they don't do it for you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: a whole lot more, because I think we could all
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: use it.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: You know, it's nice to hear you say that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: It was really good that this show, like I think
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: to our kids and other people like you, didn't show
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: all of us at our absolute best, when we're all
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: in our best clothing, make up, fresh haircuts. You showed
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: us in a very vulnerable state. And you know, we
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: were all okay with that because we knew we were
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: signing up. So I thought that said that said a
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: lot about you know, just like like, hey, it's be
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: perfect because social media is gonna pay everyone to be
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: had this perfect life and none of us have none.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so right, No, we sure do not. Okay,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the really pressing question, who do you think is going
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl?
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: It's a loaded questionnaire.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say the Lions three weeks ago. I'll
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: tell you that much.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: Okay. So I'm kind of torn. I'm torn, and I'm
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: gonna tell you I'm torn because I played with A. J.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: Brown.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: Saquon Barclave played with him, and I've always thought the
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: world of him, and I thought he was the best
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: one of the He's going to be known as one
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: of the best runner backs ever play based off his
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: effort is ethic, work, ethic, and his talent. But at
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: the same time, like we are able to potentially witness
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: like history, something that's never been done before. Patrick Mahomes
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: and Kelsey and any read to three pet and our sport.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: I don't know if people really understand how incredibly hard
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: that is, because the intangibles and the tangibles have pretty
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: much need to line up for three straight years in
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: order for you to do that, and no team is
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: ever the same. I don't care, it's just never the same.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: Guys move on to different teams, they retire, coaches go
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: get better opportunities, guys will get more money.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: And so to have to build.
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: A team essentially three years straight and to have that
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: team and the ultimate team sport click well enough to
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: be called world champions is so hard to do. And
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: so I appreciate that on a whole another level because
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: I was able to win one Super Bowl and it
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: was very, very very hard to win one that loan
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: to do it three times in three consecutive years.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: I know guys who've played.
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: I know guys like Calvin Johnson and Barry, you know
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: Barry Sanders who played for eight, nine, ten, twelve years
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: and didn't even make it to the playoffs or didn't
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: even want a playoff game. And so to be able
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: to carton the world champion is a big deal. And
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: so we're witnessing something that is beyond special. So I
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: encourage people who like are tired of the Chiefs swinning
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: and I'm tired of seeing Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Taylor Swift. Hey, look we're in the presence of greatness,
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: and hold onto this memory because one thing I have
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: learned in sport is that the people who are go
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: toed are typically the people who are not liked. And
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: because people want to build you up and eventually once
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: you get there, they want to tear your butty down.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: People don't like Lebron for what reason, Because he's great,
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: he's not getting in trouble. You don't hear much about
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: him getting in trouble off the court. Right, hated Kobe
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: pretty much until he passed away, and now we appreciate
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: him shot me because of whatever reason.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Now we appreciate it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: Now he's done playing, and so like, enjoy this moment,
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: you know, with whatever happens. But nonetheless, I think it's
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: gonna be a great game. I think you're a.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Bunch of superstars all.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: On one field. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty special to
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: watch that. And so I'm pumped you went.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Were you on the Seahawks team with the year you
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: guys went back the second year in a row?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Or was that when you went to Detroit?
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: That was my first year in Detroit?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because I remember I went to that because
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I'm good buddies at Warren Moon, and so I went
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: out to that game, and then the second year I
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: went out to the second one, and when when the
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Seahawks lost, I was like, oh my gosh, I couldn't
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: be leave it. But yeah, yeah, that's interesting. That's really interesting. Cool,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And I agree with you, man. I mean, I love
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. I just I'd love to see him win one.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: But you're right, I wasn't. I'm one of those tired
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: of the Chiefs guys. So that resonated with me. I'm
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: gonna think about it differently.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's so true. Though we are hopefully
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: witnessing history. I mean, good football is good football. Hopefully
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: everyone will watch and hopefully everyone will watch the finale.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I cannot see of Special Forces World Stuffest Test. It's
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday nights. You can watch on Fox and then
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the next night binge it on Hulu. Golden, thank you
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so much for coming on the Almost Famous OG podcast.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: We are really excited about your podcast. So where can
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: people find you? And you know, of course the Tate
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Tate three, t third Jersey, But where can people find you?
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: Well, first off, I can't answer the question. So you
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: tell me who you got in the Super Bowl.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'll tell you this. I'm buying a bunch of squares.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Just buy a bunch of squares. Had I just want
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: everyone to have fun.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I think what you said is right right on.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I will be well.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I will be at a dance competition with my daughter
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, so and she literally has dances from like
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: nine in the morning until ten at night.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: So I will be at a dance competition.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, actually fortunately because I love dance competitions.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: But I would love.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: To see the game. I know my husband will be
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: watching and rooting for both of us. But I do
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: think that it is true like people love to knock
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: people down. Tom Brady is a perfect example. You know,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you're you're you are the man in football, and everyone
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: just is a hater, so I feel like, yeah, like
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: why not lift them up?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: This?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: This is historical, so I have to say, I'm a
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Midwestern girl, I gotta go for the Chiefs.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I'm struggling.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I will say this.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I'm struggling because my team in Madden back in the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: day was I would take I would take the Donovan
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: McNabb Eagles to the super Bowl every year.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: And I don't know why it was my team back
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: in the day.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I'm Madden, so I'm such a Lions guy, so it's
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: hard for me to root for anybody else. But I
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: will say, I am going to have to rethink I was.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I was all Eagles all the way until you just
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: said what you said. And now I'm starting to wonder
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: if I'm one of those haters. So I got to
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: rethink when I'm I got to rethink this. I'm not
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: so I'm not sick of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's adorable, so you know, from that perspective,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: it doesn't.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Bug me a bit.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, I think I got to get over
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: the fact that I feel like sometimes Mahomes uses the
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the the rules to his favor, you know, with kind
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: of drifting to the sidelines and cutting up when everybody
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: else backs off. That one makes me mad, but but
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I get it. He's just smart. So I gotta quit hating.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Yea, quit Hayten.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: You can see Showtime with Golden on Spotify, Apple, or
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: you can watch it on YouTube. We've had some amazing
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: guests out there so and we'll probably even even once
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: the season's over, will still be having some contestants. Hopefully
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Trusty will come on and join us and we'll have
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: some fun with it and see what happens.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I would love that.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I would love it. So yes, everyone go listen to
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Showtime and follow you on Instagram. I love your recaps
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: when you're sitting by the by the TV and you're
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: just like, and this happened, and this happened.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: I think I might go ahead and do like a
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: whole season recap and like just take like, oh know,
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: use the actual season as a green screaming I guess,
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: and then I'll be like, paulse this is what actually
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: happened here, and maybe do it for each episode, just
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: will take some time.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: That'd be great, you know what, please do that, if
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: if only just for all of the rest of the recruits,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: because part of me wants to write the producers and
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: ask if we can have like the raw footage, you know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: just so I can actually show my family that I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: did these tasks, because they didn't show me doing much
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: other than crying. So I would love to see the
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: raw footage. But at least if there's like, you know,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: this is this is really what was going down, and
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I was in the chicken coop and squatting like I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: was pooping my diapers.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: But anyways, yeah, Golden, thank you man, thanks for joining us.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: It's been really great getting to reconnect with you a
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: little bit. And like I said, Man, I think as
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: a as a viewer who wasn't on the show with
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: both of you, I think just the you know, the
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: mental toughness and but also the compassion that you you
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: specifically show Golden too, you know, the other people on
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: your team and in your troop and and the cadets.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, like Trista always says she was
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: you were one of her angels, and so I think
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: it's pretty cool to see that and then to you know, see,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: like I said, you and Brody, for whatever reason, have
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: stood out to me as two of the men on
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the show who really kind of you know, showed people
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: your emotions and showed a different side of you that
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: that we had never gotten to see before. And I
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: think that was huge and I think you needed to
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: do that, but I think it was huge that you
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: guys have both done that.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: I think it really lets people fall in love with
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're welcome, Thank you, and would love to come
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: on the podcast, so you just let me know when.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Alrighty, all right, awesome.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Thanks everybody, Thank you so much.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Loved having you.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: Pleasure, my pleasure.