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  Speaker 1: They wanted me to audition for three parts. I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be this Roy guy. It was so polarizing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I can really take this role and
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  Speaker 1: be outrageous with it.
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  Speaker 2: More money, more problems never made any sense to me
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  Speaker 2: until I had more money.
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  Speaker 1: Facts, God and death change everything for me. That's the
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  Speaker 1: main components to life that changed everything. God and death.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't born with hater DNA. I don't see someone
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  Speaker 2: else's success as taking away from my success.
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  Speaker 1: Can cussing this.
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  Speaker 3: They're telling me to cuss us.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, Welcome Too Personal. I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so
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  Speaker 2: much for joining us this week. If you haven't already,
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  Speaker 2: make sure that you hit subscribe and follow us on
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  Speaker 2: our social media at two Personal Show. I'm very excited
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  Speaker 2: for this week's guests. We have Julian Horton on the
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  Speaker 2: show today. He plays Roy in the wildly popular and
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  Speaker 2: very crazy, very fun Tyler Perry drama Beauty in Black.
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  Speaker 3: We talk all about that, as well as.
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  Speaker 2: New music he came out with, and of course we'll
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  Speaker 2: get to Never Too Personal later on in the show.
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  Speaker 2: But first, I have been encouraged by some people in
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  Speaker 2: my life and my therapists to work on being more vulnerable.
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  Speaker 2: I hate being vulnerable. I hated being vulnerable before this year,
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  Speaker 2: and this year has really knocked me on my ass
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  Speaker 2: with my ability to open up to people, to trust people.
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  Speaker 3: To be soft with people, to.
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  Speaker 2: Really let anyone know if I'm struggling or if I
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  Speaker 2: need help. And I've gone through chapters this year where
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  Speaker 2: I've been okay with that, and now I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of hardening again. I always knew from the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of this year that I was going to change
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, and I am still not
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  Speaker 2: sure all the different ways that I will change and
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  Speaker 2: what will be lasting and what will be temporary. But
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  Speaker 2: in this journey of trying to paint the next chapter
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  Speaker 2: of my life and doing this show, where I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: to people in a completely different capacity than I really
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  Speaker 2: have in my career because most of the spaces that
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  Speaker 2: I have worked in have been in sports, and not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of them have been directly one on one
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  Speaker 2: interview or conversation spaces. I'm exploring all these different parts
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  Speaker 2: of me and obviously having conversations where I want people
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  Speaker 2: to be vulnerable with me. So it's something that I
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  Speaker 2: know I need to work on more. And when I
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  Speaker 2: talk to you people that listen to the show or
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  Speaker 2: watch the show, there's an expectation of vulnerability that I
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  Speaker 2: think is fair. So I'm working on it. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how it's going to manifest. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how I will be six months from now, a
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  Speaker 2: year from now, five years from now. When I look
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  Speaker 2: back on past traumas that I've experienced in my life.
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  Speaker 2: In the moments, I felt like what I was feeling
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  Speaker 2: was very permanent. But I also think that when I
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  Speaker 2: look at those traumas, to me now, it seems pretty
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  Speaker 2: obvious that those were things that I would be able
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  Speaker 2: to get over or would be able to contextualize with
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  Speaker 2: the proper you know, storytelling, if someone had cheated on me,
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  Speaker 2: or someone had lied to me, or someone had been abusive.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's all these different ways that.
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  Speaker 2: You can heal by recognizing the behavior of other people.
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  Speaker 2: But I think this year it's been a completely different experience.
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  Speaker 2: I've been angry, I've been sad, I've been.
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  Speaker 3: Really isolated. I've felt very.
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  Speaker 2: Very betrayed, but also like a lot of things were
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  Speaker 2: very unfair. I've felt like my authenticity has been my
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  Speaker 2: ability to be authentic has been kind of taken away
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  Speaker 2: from me, and I'm trying to work through how I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to get back to maybe not the me I
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  Speaker 2: was before, but whatever I'm going to be now and
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  Speaker 2: the things that I liked about myself before all this happened.
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  Speaker 2: So I just want you to know I'm working through
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  Speaker 2: it and I don't know how it's gonna turn out,
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  Speaker 2: but I think, like with anything.
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  Speaker 3: It takes time.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, through this process of doing the show
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  Speaker 2: of healing, of going through major life changes, deal with
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  Speaker 2: the insane political environments and social environment that we're all
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  Speaker 2: dealing with, you know, being bombarded with constant negativity, it
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  Speaker 2: can all feel really overwhelming. And I think this year
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  Speaker 2: has been kind of a weird one for everyone. Everyone's
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  Speaker 2: dealing with a lot of different things, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's the Year of the Snake. It's a year of change,
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  Speaker 2: of shedding things, of growth, of force, discomfort, And I
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  Speaker 2: just want to be transparent about my hesitation to be
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  Speaker 2: really really vulnerable because it is something gets manifesting in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different places in my life. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're on too personal and that's what.
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  Speaker 3: I felt like talking about today.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us today and hanging out. I'm really
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  Speaker 2: excited to talk to Julian Horton And that's next on
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  Speaker 2: Too Personal.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'm so excited Julian.
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  Speaker 2: Wharton is here in the house. Incredible actor, music producer.
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  Speaker 2: He plays Roy Belair in the wildly wildly successful Tyler
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  Speaker 2: Perry drama Beauty and Black, and he just released a
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  Speaker 2: single and a really incredible music video as well that
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  Speaker 2: he produced with Timo and Erica Banks called Gonehead Bust It.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome, Too Personal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up? Thanks for having me, Thanks for being here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here.
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  Speaker 2: So you were saying before we started recording that we
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  Speaker 2: have actually met before.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we have.
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  Speaker 3: Where did we meet?
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  Speaker 1: So it's a Gravy party and this is like February
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  Speaker 1: last year, and I think it was the Roots Party.
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  Speaker 1: It was the Roots and the Yes, yes, and I
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  Speaker 1: was a Julie Jolie just so happy to meet you know,
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  Speaker 1: my friend Taylor Rooks. Oh that's what it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was to remember this interaction now, yes, yes, yes, no,
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  Speaker 3: I remember.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, which it was?
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  Speaker 2: It was the it was Quests party, yes, and it
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  Speaker 2: was with Team Epiphany shout out Team Epiphany and yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: I totally remember.
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  Speaker 1: Now, yes that's what we met.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy. What a little full circle moment.
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  Speaker 1: Great, and now you're on the pod podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That's so exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, congratulations first of all, because the show is a
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  Speaker 2: hit and you are a very hm hmm, what's.
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  Speaker 1: The word outrageous compelling.
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  Speaker 3: Your character.
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  Speaker 2: When you were reading about the character, were what was
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  Speaker 2: your like initial reaction for how you were going to tap.
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  Speaker 3: Into it because it's an intense show.
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  Speaker 1: It's very intense. The thing about it is like they
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  Speaker 1: they wanted me to audition for three parts Calvin the Driver,
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  Speaker 1: even my brother, well not Stephen Charles, who was played
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  Speaker 1: by Stephen Northfleet. They want to be all just for
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  Speaker 1: him and they want to mee the audition for Roy.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even I wanted to be so intentional with
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  Speaker 1: this part because it was Netflix and it was Tyler Perry.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even audition for Calvin and Charles's park. I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to be this Roy guy because from the
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  Speaker 1: description that they had gave it was so polarizing, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I can really take this role and
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  Speaker 1: be outrageous with it because what it was asked me
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  Speaker 1: to do. It was something about, say, if I bring
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  Speaker 1: myself Julian and Horton to this role, this can be
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  Speaker 1: really monumental and it be something that people talk about
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  Speaker 1: it because the way it's written is one way. But
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  Speaker 1: I knew if I brought myself to it, the animation,
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  Speaker 1: the charisma, and just the humor to it, it could
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  Speaker 1: be something that's talked about it. People were like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I hate this character, but he's also kind of fun too,
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  Speaker 1: because it could have been just a one noted role,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when I saw this character,
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  Speaker 1: I really just I knew I could do something with it,
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  Speaker 1: and it was really just Yeah, I would say it
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  Speaker 1: was compelling this and I wanted to play role.
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  Speaker 2: What's the fan reaction to the show, Because it has
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  Speaker 2: a pretty strong cult following.
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  Speaker 1: It's been it's been crazy. When I first got on
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  Speaker 1: the show, I thought I knew it was gonna be big.
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  Speaker 1: I knew Netflix, I know you have Tyler Perry, you
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  Speaker 1: have this whole combo of just like for success, you
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  Speaker 1: have a combo for success. But the way the fans
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  Speaker 1: are going about this show, I'm extremely grateful because everyone's
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  Speaker 1: tapping in everyone loves the show. They call me Roy
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  Speaker 1: everywhere I go. Now, I got use to that. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's all good though, and I'm just thankful
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  Speaker 1: to be able to. You know, people used to say it,
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  Speaker 1: used to make Instagram videos. Bro, you should go on bomb, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: you should do a skitch. I'm like, nah, I want
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  Speaker 1: to do it the right way. So for now to
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  Speaker 1: be able to honor God's investment with this acting and
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  Speaker 1: to be seen by multiple people across the world, and
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  Speaker 1: to really just be this character and get my acting off,
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  Speaker 1: I'm extremely grateful. And it's a character people, Hey, I
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  Speaker 1: hate Roy. I hate them. It's like people get to
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  Speaker 1: see my acting, and I love that because, like that's
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  Speaker 1: the actor's dream to be seen.
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  Speaker 2: I actually, I think that being a character that is
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  Speaker 2: hated is very powerful because that means you're really moving
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  Speaker 2: people's emotions. Like I don't I don't hate a character
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't bother me, Like your acting is so good
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  Speaker 2: that it's bothering people.
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  Speaker 3: That's a that's a big compliment.
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  Speaker 1: And I appreciate it. I mean, so I'm doing my
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  Speaker 1: joy that you play a roll two wheel. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what did you want me to do? Like media. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and people are saying that
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  Speaker 1: to me, like you that Game of Thrones character fan.
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  Speaker 1: Someone told me that the other day. You were just
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  Speaker 1: gave a Thrones charre or too. Don't connect, I've I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen Game of Thrones.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a character Jeffrey, Yes, who, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: actually is not the work the most like evil character
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  Speaker 2: in the show. Ramsey is worse to me, but Jeffrey
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  Speaker 2: is a notorious character because he played the role so
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  Speaker 2: well that it like it almost like ruined his life
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  Speaker 2: because people were so attached to how much like they
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  Speaker 2: hated him. I mean I hated him too, but then
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  Speaker 2: they brought Ramsey on and I was like, oh, he
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  Speaker 2: ain't got it on.
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  Speaker 1: Joffrey like Draffa, the the blond hair like teenage.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah he's the teenage king.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he looked annoyed just from seeing him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very annoying. He is.
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  Speaker 1: Even watch the show get terms.
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  Speaker 3: It's an incredible show.
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  Speaker 2: But that is a huge compliment, I mean, to be
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  Speaker 2: compared because he's one of the most hated characters in
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  Speaker 2: all television history.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why you have to like what I'm learning
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  Speaker 1: is you have to reconfigure the people's minds quickly because
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  Speaker 1: I'm not about to be stuck in the boxes roy
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  Speaker 1: my whole life. Hell no, I can't do it because
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  Speaker 1: like they'll try to put you in a box and like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're hight that's forever. But it's like that's why I
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  Speaker 1: did the music quick, get on TikTok quick, because I
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  Speaker 1: know that this character is compelling and I know he's polarizing.
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  Speaker 1: But you have to reconfigure the people's brains quickly because
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  Speaker 1: if you don't, they're just going to see why his
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  Speaker 1: character for the rest of your life. And I know
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to do a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like hey guys, I'm not a cheating husband that Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really animated late does he does he ever smile?
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  Speaker 1: I don't take life serious at all. So I'm really
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  Speaker 1: opposite of my character because he's like mad all the
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  Speaker 1: time and he's vicious and he's just angry and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not that way. So I don't want people to just
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  Speaker 1: like think that I'm that way. I'm not that way
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  Speaker 1: to at all.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel like the role has changed your life?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, Definitely, it's changed my life in so many ways.
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  Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, I'm just thankful. He's changed my life
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  Speaker 1: in incredible ways. Obviously the attention from the show, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, the resources, the money, and Tyler Perry being
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  Speaker 1: on Netflix. It's just when it gave me my own
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  Speaker 1: icon on Netflix, I knew something that changed. I say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: life is different. Now they gave me an own icon.
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  Speaker 1: So now you can just like be me on the
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  Speaker 1: little thing. Now. I was like, yeah, this thing is different.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. This thing is different, and it's definitely changed.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, the resources, man, the resources, and
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  Speaker 1: now we can do the videos. Now we can do music.
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  Speaker 1: Now can because everything in my life is kind of
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  Speaker 1: just like supporting one another. So with football is supporting
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  Speaker 1: my acting dreams because football taught me you gotta be
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  Speaker 1: work hard, you gotta have great, you gotta have this,
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  Speaker 1: that and the third. And I brought that into my acting.
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  Speaker 1: The competition, the competitiveness, the drive to be great. I
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  Speaker 1: brought that into the acting. And then with the acting,
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  Speaker 1: now it's funneled into the music. Now I can take
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  Speaker 1: her to the music. So, by the grace of God,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just thankful for the show because it's allowed me
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  Speaker 1: to just put my dreams on the forefront and be
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  Speaker 1: allowed to chase them even better. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: And it's great.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So you are actually the first one we're going
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  Speaker 2: to do this with. We it's called too personal, So
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  Speaker 2: we want to get we want to get personal, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to ambush you.
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  Speaker 2: So you pick the personal question that we're going to
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  Speaker 2: start the rest of the the interview with conversation like, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Too personal, la, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I'll participating this with you.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, what's something you believe about success or
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  Speaker 1: happiness that you no longer do. It's something you used
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  Speaker 1: to believe about success or happiness you no longer do.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question. Let me read it again. Something,
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  Speaker 1: Let me think about this, because I got to, like
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  Speaker 1: really think about it. Can still get them lift from
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  Speaker 1: last night. My mind had to get it. You have
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  Speaker 1: to reconfigure.
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  Speaker 3: Don't notice you want me to go first.
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  Speaker 2: I used, well, I'll go with the I'll go with
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  Speaker 2: the happiness part. I used to think that I needed
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  Speaker 2: other I needed a partner to be happy, and I
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  Speaker 2: no longer believe that. And the success part I used
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  Speaker 2: to believe that success would make things easier. And it
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  Speaker 2: does when it comes to the resources, when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to making more money, when it comes to doors opening
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  Speaker 2: and all those things. But more money, more problems never
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  Speaker 2: made any sense to me until I had more.
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  Speaker 3: Money, more problems.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like there's a simplicity in life that you
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  Speaker 2: don't appreciate for what it is. Like I think about
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  Speaker 2: when I was in college and I was broke, and
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  Speaker 2: we would go out and just have the time of
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  Speaker 2: our lives and there were no cameras and there were
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  Speaker 2: no stakes. We just had to make it the class
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  Speaker 2: in the morning. Nobody was worried about what we were doing,
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  Speaker 2: and everything just happened like it just it just worked,
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  Speaker 2: like it just happened.
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  Speaker 3: It just worked. We had so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: We made these memories, and all the while we're trying
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  Speaker 2: to pursue bigger things and you know, obviously finished school
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  Speaker 2: and have careers, and you know, there's just like all
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  Speaker 2: these things we need to aspire to and accomplish.
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  Speaker 3: But we thought we had problems. Then we did not.
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  Speaker 3: And now I am in no way complaining. I'm so grateful.
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  Speaker 2: But it just as your life changes, you take on
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  Speaker 2: more things. There's more things you're responsible for, more bills,
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  Speaker 2: there's more people you have to take care of, there's
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  Speaker 2: more things.
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  Speaker 3: That are assigned to you.
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  Speaker 2: You have your family, you have your kids, you have
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  Speaker 2: like even if you don't have kids, you have kids
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  Speaker 2: to take care of.
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  Speaker 3: Like it just it is.
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  Speaker 2: Everything just expands and you get more on your plate.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of the successful people I know have
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  Speaker 2: to find a way to balance all of it because
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  Speaker 2: especially if you were you know, if you have a
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  Speaker 2: family that people, you're the one that people rely on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: people rely on you, whether you want that assignment or not.
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  Speaker 1: I think, first of all, that's great. Should too, that's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I think what I've learned is that when you go
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  Speaker 1: to unfamiliar places, familiar people that used to rock with
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  Speaker 1: are always going to go with you.
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  Speaker 3: You can't take everyone with you.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I've learned too. It's like I thought people
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  Speaker 1: are going to like, you know, it's just I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what it is. I don't know what's in the energy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I guess you're reaching
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  Speaker 1: new heights. But like people that I was rocking with
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  Speaker 1: before the show, some people, you know, I got my crew,
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  Speaker 1: my solid crew, but just people that you were like,
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  Speaker 1: let's say go out with and party with stuff. It's
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  Speaker 1: like the support and the energy is not the same.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know why that is. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to a different places, he don't need
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  Speaker 1: us no more, whatever, whatever, I don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like sometimes you expect everyone to support and
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  Speaker 1: show love, but then again, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of familiar people's you know, it kind of
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  Speaker 1: just it's not as the same as it used to
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: be because now that you may see you as you
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: made it, you don't need a support no more. And
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen that from some people in my life for sure.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an interesting that's an interesting perspective. Like
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you when you're coming up, you want people to pull
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: up for you to like watch the show. You want
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: people to support, to repost, and then you reach a
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: certain point and then people stop doing it. Yeah, and
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: it's like, hello, comment on my.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Video right now, this video right now, and it's like,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: you know, it took a lot to make that video happen.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot to make It's a very elaborate video.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you what is it? It's like nine minutes,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: nine minutes.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Ang, it's like a short film.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: It's a short film. We really did, really like put
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: them all into it because if I'm just going to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: go to the music side, I gotta go crazy with it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I got to kill like five birds in one stone.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I'm my executs video. I'm gona write it, I'm a
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: creative directed, I'm gonna produce to beat, I'm gonna do everything,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make my acting get off too, because
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the act of industry
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: is tough right now. They're not just giving people parts
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: like I got on Beauty and Black, and it's not
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: like everyone's at the door like hey, we got into
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the park for you. It's not like that. It's like
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: it's still slow. So if they're not gonna give you parts,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: we got to create parts. We got to be proactive
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: about it and do things where we can like get
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the people an experience and make it cinematic and give something,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you know, that's enjoyable to watch, because that's kind of
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: missed in today's music video game. People just make a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: video We at the gas station with the homies. That's
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: what people do, and it's really and I get it
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: because it's simple and easy. But I'm like, you know
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: what if I'm gonna do it nothing not. But it's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: like it's the same video type stuff. SAME's the same
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: type of video, which is cool music videos.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Growing up were.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: It was, it was in cinema, Michael Jackson, you want
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: my world, you go to you go to a lot
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: of videos and just have the boat exactly. It was
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: just cinematic videos. And I wanted to bring that back
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: because I wanted to pay homas to centers. I wanted
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to pay homers to the nostalgia of the two thousands
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: of the nineties when videos are great, and I just
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: wanted to get my acting off too. And it's crazy.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: It's like you would expect everyone July got new video out,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't happen like that you got it. It's
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: like more people that are just like new people I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: don't even know than are reposting the video, not the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: people that you were familiar with it, you know what
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you just you don't make a big
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: deal out of it. You know, you keep a rocking
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and keep a pushing, but you notice it a little
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: bit and I noticed it a little bit, but it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: just like, it is what it is. You got to
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: keep on going.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Have you had your your real hater moment yet?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: What's a real hare moment?
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Like just like sounds like you haven't had it yet. Yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: well I don't wish that on you at all. Hopefully
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: you you never have that, but you do. You know
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: this this business is ferocious, yes, and people people switch
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: up on you. Yeah, well that's good, that was the
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: right answer. That means, so you have peace in your life.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I do have peace in my life. I'm very you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I'm very just aware of who I allow to even like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you know, being my energy in nowadays because it's just like, yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I don't want to have a hater moment. Hopefully I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: don't have the No.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I hope that. I hope that you don't either. But
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: it is true though you cannot take everyone with you.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: You can't. You can't, you can't, And it's just it
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: is what it is at the end of the day.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It's like, but also I think chapters in life, like
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: if we look at that in sort of a negative way,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: but there's plenty of people, different chapters of my life
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: that did not come with me to the next Yeah.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: And I don't look at them at that necessarily as
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: a bad thing every time.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: No, I don't look at it as bad. I just
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: look at it as it's life.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you grow, maybe you move cities, people start
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: to have families, people get into different careers, they get busy.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: So I think, you know, people always contextualize it as like, oh,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: you know, they're old friends, like you used to be friends,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you used to rock with me. Like everybody doesn't go
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: with you through your entire journey of life. It's very
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: rare to have a friend or even family that can
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: rock with you for that amount of time.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: That's true. But you know what it is. I think
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: it's because I'm like that and I want to support
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: everybody to the fullest.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Why you have these blessings.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Thank God, for sure, And I appreciate that because like
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: even when I didn't have it, even when I was
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: like on the you know, the journey of trying to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: make it, I never saw somebody in didn't support them
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: because I thought like their shine was taken away from mine.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And that's just who I am as a person. And
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I show a lot of love and I'll continue to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: show love. And that's why I'm with the people. That's
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: why I replied back to everybody because I look at
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: life differently. I don't. I don't this whole Like God
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: in death change everything for me. That's the main components
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of life that changed everything. God and death. And then
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: what I mean by that, it's like God changes everything
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: for me because it's like, Okay, He's given us something.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: He given us a talent, he gives you a gift.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's in our duty and our due
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: diligence to amplify that and maximize that to the best
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: of our ability because it's been a gift that's been
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: gifted to you. So that's why I go so hard.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, God give it to me, I gotta
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: go crazy with it. Death changes everything because we're here
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: for a finite amount of time. We don't know when
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: we're leaving this earth. So if we don't know when
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: we're leaving this earth, that means you got to go
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: hard as you can to make an impact, to lead
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a legacy and change as many people's lives as you can.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: So that's why I am the way I am and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: like show the love, the people in and replying to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: people and doing everything I can to be inspiration and
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: just be with the people, because it's like, if I
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: can change someone's life or I can change someone's mood,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that's what I got to do, and that's the person
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I am. So when you don't get that back from people,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you just got to take it and you got these guys.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Is what it is. But it's like it's kind of
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: tough sometimes. I am so full of love and I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: do want people to win, and I do want people
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to eat, and I do want people to succeed and
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: advance and elevate so much, and then we don't get
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it back.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: It's just like, it is what it is, you know
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Yeah, you have to clock that in people,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: because I'm the same way.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I like to say I don't. I wasn't born with
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: hater DNA, so I just don't. I don't see someone
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: else's success as taking away from my success. I don't
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: see someone else's beauty from taking away from mine, someone
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: else's love, someone else's experiences.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Like, if anything it's inspirational, it's not. I think there's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: more than enough room in the world.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Definitely, and I think that if you.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Have that mentality that there is only a finite amount
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: of space for people, then you will eventually find yourself
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: on the outside. People talk about this with me all
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the time. It's with women in sports, Like I've actually
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: had people say to me like, we don't understand why
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: women are so supportive of each other and you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: this generation of women because there's not that many jobs.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, huh, what do you mean, what are
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you talking about. The more women that are in sports,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the better it is for me, because then it's less
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: of a thing. Then I have to stop fighting tooth
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and nail to have an extra inch of space in
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: this business when you're used to seeing women in that
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: in that space, it only makes sense for us to
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: help each other and put each other on. That's how
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: we make more money, that's how we get more opportunities,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: that's how we experience, how we grow, and that's how
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: we stay.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: So but it is like some people just operate that way.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: They do, they do, you know, and it knows crazy
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: because sometimes even if you see somebody doing the thing,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you might get like a pang of anxiety like damn,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I want it that part or damn. And then that's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: your that's your you know, opportunity to make a choice
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and stuff. You're still support it, or you're gonna be
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a hater and be like, I'm not liking this post
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: because he made it. I'm not liking this post because
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: he booked this. I still like it anyway, even if
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you fee that pan because it's a healthy inspiration type shit.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not like him cussing this.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. God, sorry, I don't know.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so sorry. I'm not body. Yeah you know.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're telling me to cuss less.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly good because I'm like, he's like two customers. Okay,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: cool anyways, but yeah, it's like sometimes you're going to
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: feel that pang of anxiety. Damn, he booked that. But
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it's still loved though, you know what I'm saying, because
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: he's doing his thing and show him up. Some people
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: will see your post, look at it, analyze it, and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: keep scrolling.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like those followers.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Those followers, that's crazy. I've never done that,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: even if someone's doing some dope stuff and said, damn
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you got that. Damn. I want to be there too.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Keep doing your thing, baby and like it. That's that's
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the type of shit I'm own. That's the type of
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: person I am. And that's I think what I would
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: say to go back to that question. That's why I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: think I've really observed with this new found success.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you you have this new music video.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, I am.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: So. I like horses. Yeah, I own a horse. Yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: for racing purposes, not for riding purposes. Was that your
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: first time riding a horse?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: It didn't look like.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: It was my first time.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: But okay, but how many times have you ridden a
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: horse before that?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Two to three times?
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were like going, I was Were you not scared?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I was a little bit not not scared.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: But his dinosaurs like they're big as fuck.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then it's like you be thinking
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: you gonna fall off the whole time too.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: It's like I have anxiety watching your body.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many times he's been on a horse.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: He's flying on this bitch and lying. So okay, so
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: you just went for it, Like how did it go
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: for it?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Oh? My god? Because you know recently the video we
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: wanted to be like Sinners was like he was because
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you know, like the Remick when he first appears in
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the movie, he jumps off to the screen and then
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: goes to the house. I wanted that to be like
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the video. I wanted to start like that, but them
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: horses wouldn't go. The horses wouldn't go, so we had
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: we had to maneuver. We had audible from that plan,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and that's why the video is like we ain't gonna
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: have no problems, though, are we? And it has to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: do a flashback because we weren't really gonna start like that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: We really wanted to be like fast paced, but then
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: they won't go where Shadow go, and they wouldn't go,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and then finally we got it. We just had to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: use that. We shot it in shot in Atlanta at
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: this place Atlanta Utility Works, and we shot at Bella's
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: barn and I forgot where it's I think it's like
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: in somewhere in Georgia, like near Connors. So that's what
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: we shouted at in two locations for sure. And we
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: used the horses and we it was crazy because that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: we did one day, we did the horses and they
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: didn't run at all. Shadow kept going back to his barn.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: He kept taking me to his barn. I said, that's hard.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: It's not last time. I was going crazy. I was not.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I was not joking. I was going crazy also because
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: because I'm producing the video and and now I understand
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Tyler Perry when he's like, hey, we gotta get a shot,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: because now I'm producing the video and it's on my dime,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and it's like it's getting late and we haven't got
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the shot yet. And now this little nigga is continuously
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: going back to his barn. And I told the host
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: he's not. Then yeah, and then we had to reshoot it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: And then the next day he was better though. Shadow
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: shout out, Shadow shoutout and Bella the two horses that
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: we use. He's a young teenage you know, he wasn't listening.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: But he finally did you Like, isn't don't you wear
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: like the spurs?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: And like, well, I was kicking this little nigga everything
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: is not doing it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: He wasn't with you.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: He wasn't shit. Shadow, you don't get your fucking ash
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and get your wesh And he's like finally start going
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Did you feed him? Did you give him like carrots
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I started rubbing him. He was sweating. It's a shadow,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: come on, man, and he just wouldn't go. And finally
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: he went. And that's what shaw we used. We didn't
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: have that many shots, but damn it. That's why I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: was wanted to don't make no sense sometime like by
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: myself riding because that's not show we had. Because he
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: finally was going, I said, oh, ship, and then almost
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: fell off the horse because he start going too fast.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I said, nig you're showing out now, shadow, And that's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: what happened.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: How did you get him to stop? And and and
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that was such soul memory.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: It was because that nigga big pause. But it's like
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: it's like it's it's like, yeah, it's just an appropriate pause.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I know it's exactly. So it's like, yeah, and he
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: finally stopped. Like they have, they have the mine on
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: their own. That's why horses are kind of like, well, yeah.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: That's why I don't. That's why I don't play with them,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: like I am not. I'm little, so I'm not trying
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: to be that high off the ground. I don't speak animal, yes,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: like I have no pets. I've had pets before they not,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: they do not listen to me. The only ones that
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: do are cats, Like I'm for that reason in the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: cat person, I don't have cats, so yeah, and horses
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: like they're so they're they're very much like energy creatures.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: You are they are? That's they kept saying her energy.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: He's a dominant one, you know. I'm like, I don't
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: give a damn out, like give me, but yeah, exactly.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So it's like it is the energy thing with the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: horses for sure. And then once she finally got a downpack.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: But Shadow is that he's a teenager. Even wh're shooting
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a gun scene and ship, he's just like kept moving it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Shadow, will you please be still bigging? Because
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: tim Timbo, yeah chilling, bell are just chilling, and the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Shadow just.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Like they didn't have any other horses.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: He did, but I wouldn't him because he was like
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: he came and he was just the best looking and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: just big and just like stout. But he was just
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you know, doing his own thing. He's a teenager. He's
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: on teenager. It's like really a thing like teenager horses
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: act like they really do, they really do. But but
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: but he did a great job shadows that he's a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: great horse. I'm like talking about a horse and stuff
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: like my negative shit. Shadow is a great horse.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: And yeah, the you know, the animal people will be
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: happy to hear that you They won't they won't like
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that you kicked him, but.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think they know how to no.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: No, but I didn't kick him. But it's just like you,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that's how you ride a horse exactly.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: You got to give him a little, a little nudge.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: What is a role that you would like to play?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Something like action some just just using my body and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: using just like my it's the world I'm looking for
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: just to energy that, you know, the athleticism. I want
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: to use that, you know, because right now let's say, yeah,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you look mean, nig we're gonna give you the woman
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that as a rule. Every time we're gonna give them
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the mean guy rule. It's like I can do a
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: lot more than that. That's why I'm doing my own
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: thing with the videos. Every video we do, the next
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: video we got, oh yeah, crazy.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: We needed a tease army army okay.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: And this song fire. They don't they don't know, they
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: don't know, they don't know. He's Roy Bellery. No I
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: keep thinking that were about to take over it, like
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I'm being dead. Seriously, I got a whole label. We
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: got artists, and we got real cinematic art pieces that
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: were about to give to the world.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it's important to be diverse in what you offer, definitely,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: especially in this business because, as you said, like things.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Things come and go.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Definitely do.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Opportunities come and go.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: The wave of the busines, this changes, funding changes, definitely
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: do so. It's always good to have your hands in
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: a bunch of things. I could see you in an
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: action film, definitely an action series, that for sure. But
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: you want to play the good guy?
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Do you like playing a villain?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Kind? It's fun, it's fun personally. Is Roy a VILLAINO?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Or he's just an idiot? Allain villains like Thanos and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: like Jason Boies and like Freddy Krueger, that's villain.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: An anti hero villain you.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Can be like like Panos is like an anti hero.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Santos is well. I think all good anti hero is tough.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I think all really good villains have something that makes
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: sense about them.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, like Thanos.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I saw someone commented on something some news story that
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: was posted the other day, like Thanos was right, fifty
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: percent of y'all gotta go, Like, you know, the purpose
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: behind Thanos was, you know, his idea of like saving
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the planet and restoring or saving the universe and restoring
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: it back to a time when things were not just
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: being exploited and you know, the Earth was or the
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: planets were healing was not a far fetched idea, But
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: getting rid of fifty percent of the universe is like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of a shitty way to go
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: But you have the Joker.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Like the Joker, his purpose is anarchy, but he's fucking
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: with everybody, particularly the establishment and particularly the bad guys
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: that are running the establishment, so he kind of like
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: makes sense. So I think when you play a villain,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: a well played villain has something about them that is
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: like you're like, you know what. That's why I love
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Sarcey Lanister from Game of Thrones because she used a villain.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: She was fucking everybody up, but she was loyal to
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: her family and even though it was her brother, she
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: was loyal to her man.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: So like she she has these like redeeming things. She's
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: just smarter than everybody.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: So I think the trick with the villains is do
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you are you totally hated exactly, but you have a
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: you have a sex appeal in the show.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Sex appeal and.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Humor to animation, right, So do you feel like you
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: lean on that to keep it from being like a
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: full one?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I definitely did that, and and and I like playing
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the villain because, like I said, it really does get
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: the people going. It does get the people going, and
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: it's site people be and it's all bullshit. I hate
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: really when they see me in real life, I don't
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: see the hate. It's different in real life. To him,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: it's different, you know, like exactly, it's going to be
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: different in real life.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Like if you if you read the comments on anything
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that I post, it's not very kind exactly. No one
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: has ever Well that's not true. Actually someone did throw
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: a hot dog at me once, but this was a
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: long time ago. It was at a football game Washington
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: when they were the Redskins.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I was perfectly behaved, I.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Answer your question. That's why, Like I was very adamant
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: about bringing myself to the role. You know what, I'm like,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: how do you get cured? How do you get so
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: dark for the role. It's like, I really didn't have
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: to do much. I just really brought myself to the role,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and brought my animation, brought
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: my goofiness to it. And then you know, he still
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: has to be vicious and dark and things of that nature.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But like I said, I think the animation and the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: humor and the goofiness and just like the unseeriousness that
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I have, I brought that to Roy and I think
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that that makes him redeemable right there, because he's just
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: not like he's not like I think his name is
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Charles from dar Darving Man, Black Woman. Yeah, he's not
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: just like mean and vicious like he Charles is mean,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: very seriously mean, just an asshole. Roy is like funny,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: he's like he's this niggas, he's wild, he's vicious, but
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: he's also like I said, he's he'd be he'd be
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: fun to have a drink with this guy. And I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: think that's a redeemable quality right there. Is just because
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I brought my light to it and I didn't want
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: to make it super dark, and I think that's what
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: give him a redeemable quality where people are like we
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: don't like you, but like we do like you. A
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: little bit because it's not so one noted, and I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: made sure to bring every aspect of my being to
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the role.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Well, there's also a lot of dark characters in the show.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It is so it to be like the darkest character
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: in that show would be intense.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: It is intense, and and and and other things like
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Crystal who plays Mallory. Our our relationship, our chemistry is
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: amazing and people love that when we argue and how
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: she just talks crazy to me. It's all funny games
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: too with it too, So it's like busiousness but also
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: has a light to it. So that's what makes the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: show just like great because it has, you know, redemable qualities.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: What do you find it uncomfortable to do some of
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the more dark scenes or or let me say this,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: do you find it hard to get out of the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: state of mind you have to go in to do
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: some of those dark scenes.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I don't probe a hard get out state of mind
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: because to me, it's just like I need you to
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: make you my bitch. Like it's easy to get into that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I just do it, you know what I'm saying, Not
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: like I like I gotta go to therapy and like
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: meditate and get into this role, not just do it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I'll just do it. I'll just do it. But when
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I do read something the scene, it's like, damn, I'm
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: gonna talk to this black woman crazy and don't like
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: doing that, especially my sisters and shit like damn, I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: gotta talk to her crazy. Let's do it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Is that?
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Does it help that you have a good relationship with
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: your your coat, your coat?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Taylor Polodor is such a good actress, Like even the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: first season, we didn't rehearse nothing. We just say I said, hey,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: it's the first time we seen each other, it's the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: first time going over it. Let it. Let it just rock,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and we just let it rock. We didn't rehearse nothing.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: And what you see is the first time has happened.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: That's why it's so like real and authentic because it's
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: really real. But it it we're talking to someone crazy
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: like that, It is like damn. But then when that
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: camera said actions sorry, it's time to go.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: But the camera cuts, though, is there a drop and
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: energy on the set.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: No, you're good, tell her good, I'm good, We're good,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and we started going again.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because people would always ask me and it's obviously
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: not acting.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: But when I was doing Undisputed, they'd be like, oh, well,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: you know, what's it like in the breaks, you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: when Skiff and Shannon are done going at each other,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, nothing, It's that we're doing television, Like
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: we're not saving lives, we're not saving souls. They're arguing
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: about Dak Prescott. We're going to break and then they're
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: going to read their notes for the X block. Like
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: there's nobody's at least when I was on the show,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: nobody is, uh, you know, really.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Upset about that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Like there's a there's a level of professionalism that's required
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: in these moments. And I'm you know, it's not acting obviously,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: like you guys are exploring quite different topics and using
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: different language and all those things. So does the energy
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: ever get like that on set or is it just
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: like you just rolled through.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: It every everyone is I mean maybe maybe with some
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: other people said maybe get like that. For me, I'm
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: do my scene and I'm back to joking and I'm like,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: those have fun. I'm always want to have fun. I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: mean that's maybe my problem. I always want to have fun.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I'm always unerious. So with me and when people just
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: seems to me. It's always fun. It's always fun. So
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, everyone's different on the shelf. Sometimes I'm
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: not everyone. I'm not with everyone when they're doing their scene,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: so it might be a drop. I don't know, but
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: with me, like even like that. Have you seen the
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: season two, Well, there's a crazy scene in there with
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Tara Carter when I'm telling them like to say, he's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: my bitch. And it was a very very very intense
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: scene and then we just start laughing after that. We
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: just had a good time after that, and it was
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: it was all good. It was chilling. It was very
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: intense because they got a big six five Nygas telling
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: me that he's my bitch, and I may just say
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: it five times. The script said one time. I said, no,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you're gonna say five times because I've learned from JK.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Simmons and Whiplash and I was inspired from that scene
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and Whiplash and he's like, I'm upset, Louder, I'm upset.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I'm upset. He says like four times. I said, you
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm doing that tomorrow and then I'm sitting
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the script. It was it's just like say I'm your bitch.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, nah, mother, tune it up. I said, Varney,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: you a gorilla nigga, say it with your chest and
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: he's no bitch. So it's like it's a crazy intense scene.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: It's a crazy intense scene, but after that laughing and
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: having a good time. So there's no drop of energy
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: at all me cause this is fun. Man. We get
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: like you said, we're not saving lives. Just like a
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: childhood dream. I've been Actingselve as a kid. We used
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: to make movies on the gam court it me and
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: my siblings, so yo act out. And to be able
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: to do this at thirty three years old, to get
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: paid for it and to be on Netflix, why would
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I get mad? You know what I'm saying. This is
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: a dream of mine that I get to do. And
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: it's just like my four year old self is very
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: very happy because I'm getting to live the four year
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: old dreams that I have when I was younger. Everything
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: like real talk, like music, acting football. I've just been
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: doing the same shit. I'm like, I'm a young kid.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just a kid, and I think that's what life's about.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: It's like keeping your young self alive. A lot of
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: people life happens. People change, people get reconfigured to act
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a different way from you're like from when you were
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: a child and shit. And so I think I'm so
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: grateful to God that I'm just able to still be
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: my young kids up. And that's why I'm so like
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Julie is there animated and goofy, how could I not be?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm doing the ship I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: was doing with my siblings on Netflix now. Yeah, so
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm just I'm just living life, having the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: good old ball, having the time. That's what I'm doing.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: What do you think has prepared you the most for
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: this chapter of your life? Because when I think of that,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: like that if that question was asked to me, I
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: think of some moments. But people always ask like, how
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: do you deal with criticism? Or how do you deal
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: with you know, like misogyny, how do you deal with
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: the business, how do you deal with all those things?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Like what what prepared you for all that? And I'm like,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just like fought a lot when
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I was saying.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't know, I just it doesn't really
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I think people think I'm exaggerating, But there are things
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: that bother me, But those things don't bother me. Yeah,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: And in some ways I feel like I was kind
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of just made to be in this space because it is.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: It's a difficult space to be in. But what do
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: you think has prepared you for that?
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I think just life in general. I think by my
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: energy and who I am and the way I live
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: a life, you wouldn't think that a lot of shit
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: has going on in my life. But I've gone through
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of to multuous things in my life. I've
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: seen a lot. I've experienced a lot of ups and
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: downs and family drama, personal drama, relationship drama, sports drama,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: ups and downs, And I think all that has really
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: just been preparing me for this moment right here, because
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I got to learn through all those moments. I got
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: to gain wisdom, I got to fail, I got to
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: go through things that were tough and in game anxiety
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: that gave me depression, that gave me in truthful thoughts,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: and it's like how to battle through that with God
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and myself. And when you go through those things, it
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: toughens you up. It builds grit, it builds toughness, and
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: it's like, now when you have a moment like this,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you're easily able to be prepared for it because you've
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: been through so many things. Like I played football. I've
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: had moments where I messed up and done things wrong
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: in the game and people are, oh, man, we hate you,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and this that and the third. I've gone through family drama,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I've lost friends, I've gone through grief, and it's just like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: that's why I am the way I am, because this
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: is real life. This is a real life for living.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I lost four friends on my team, and two years
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: ago I lost four of them in the same year.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm just like, I'll just look at
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: life differently now because my whole life's been prepared for
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: this moment. And now that I have this moment, I'm
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: doing everything I can to pay it forward and honor
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the investment that God has given me. Like I said,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: God and death change everything. So that's why I when
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I have this moment, I'm with the people. I'm calming
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: them on TikTok Live, and I'm like, because I don't
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: look at it like how other people look at I
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: don't give a shit about none of this shit. I
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: don't care about the material shit. I don't care about
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the tangible stuff that you can get. I don't care
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: about me and more superior. Only God superior. That's it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: God's always celebrity in this world. At the end of
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the day, the media and the people make people this hierarchy,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: but then everyone's the same. Everyone's the same, everyone is.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So I go with that attitude because I've gone through
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: a lot, I've seen a lot, and then at the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like, you got to make
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: people feel good in this world. You got to make
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: people feel seen. And that's what I want to do
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: with my position, with this opportunity and with the investment
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: of God's given me. That's all I want to do.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: It's a really great mentality to have, especially at this
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: particular chapter in your career, because so often you work
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: to get to next steps and you have all these
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: things that you aspire to and you accomplish them, and
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: you kind of just like blow through the moment. You
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: don't take the time to enjoy what's actually happening to you.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: And you know, it sounds like you're consciously deciding to
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: celebrate this successful time, and like you should.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Do that because what you said prepared me is like
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I've lived a lot. I'm thirty three years old. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: booked to show thirty three years. Oh I got this
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: fame whatever at thirty three. So what was the nigga
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: doing before that? You know what I'm saying? What was
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: he was living life? He was going to bullshit, he
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: was being an everyday person like every day people are.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I was driving Uber every day. He used my brother's
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: a count, driving fourteen hours just to make one hundred
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and fifty dollars. Hey, sir, how you doing? How you
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: doing today, sir? How you doing driving Uber? So when
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: you go through that stuff and you'd be that regular life,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: when you get the opportunity to freaking be seen and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: it has notoriety, Oh yeah, I'm giving it back to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the people because that every day shit is hard. Everyday
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: life is hard, and people are blessed to have this position,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and then they forget about it, like they didn't go
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: through real life shit. And it's like, I'm not forgetting
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: about that. That shit was tough. Going through life is tough,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: working that horizon, going fifty minutes to Alpharetta from Gownett.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: It's tough driving my mom's pickup truck with the coolin
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: might go out and in my gas and I'm being
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: it's tough, and it's just like I don't forget where
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I came from at all. I'm never going to forget
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: where I came from because this shit was tough. So
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I make sure I do everything I can because it's
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: like people seeming now and I don't know how you
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: look at me whatever. They can look at me however
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you want. But I know that when you've got a
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: position like this, you can impact someone's life and impact
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: someone's energy by just making them feel appreciated. And that's
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: why I do because I want everyone to be the
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: best selves.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: That's the best mentality to have. Because people always say
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: to me, like people.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: That are close to me, like you're so bad at
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: being a famous person, Like you don't know that you're
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Like I don't. I don't think I'm that famous.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: But even when I met you, though it is energy great,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: even you want to met you last year, it was love.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was love. I feel like I've
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: known you for a long time. Thanks, so it's like
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I feel the energy from you, like from you, it's
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: just like it was just straight love.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I can be socially awkward sometimes, so I like to
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: do something nail in.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: No, in fact, she's straight pure love. Man. I felt that,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate that for sure.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Of course. Well, I'm very proud of you. The show is.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Bel and I'm proud that you have the mentality that
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: you have on everything that's happening right now, because it's
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: very easy to get sucked into things and you're just you,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: just living life.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Living life, living life as you should, having fun, having fun,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: having so much fun. TMO, my homies, what's happening? They
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: know they are having a lot of fun. They're having
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun right now. It's just so much
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: fun and it's just like it's a movie and just
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: living in a movie. I love it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll keep an eye out for the next video,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: but make sure you go and check out the video
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: on YouTube.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Gonehead, bust It.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Gone ahead, bussy, Simo, basic and watch the whole thing
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: and comment.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Can I see how to happen real quick? Yes? Mm hmmm. Serendipity, Haley, serendipitous. Serendipitous. Well,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: because the crazy thing is, like, we make this song
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: and I've just seen centers right right, So I've seen
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Centers and at the end when Stax character visited a
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: buddy the old when he's older and stuff, he opens
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: the guitar and there's this like guitar sounding thing that goes,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and that's what happens at the sound effect. So I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: seen Centers. I went to the club that weekend and
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I need to do like some
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like Centers record and just like make some dope shit.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: So I started playing with these guitars on fl studio
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: and I started playing with it and then I slowed
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: it down. I used gross speed, so basically what that
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: means it's like half time the sound, and I came
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: up with this sound that kind of sounded like that
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: movie clip from the Sinners Joint. So I did that
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and the next thing, you know, I just started working
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: on this beat and that's when the beat came alive
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: and I was like, bro, this ship kind of fire,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: like like yeah, so it's kind of fire. Send it
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: to Tim and Tim's like, you know, and I had
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: something to it, and he did his own thing and
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: he just made like gone ahead, bus, gone ahead, bust it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: So we're trying to figure out, like damn, we know
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: that Erica Banks has a song called bust It. We
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: know because the viral challenger went crazy on TikTok five
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: years ago and went crazy, so we know she has
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: a song called bust It. So we're like, dog, what
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: are we gonna call this song? Because you keep saying
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: go ahead, bust it. I'm like trying to figure it out.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: We're like, fuck, it's called bust it, bro, so we
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: call it bus it, call it bust it, and let
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: it be. I tried to get a female rapper on
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the song because I'm like, don't need because you know,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: female rapper is big right now and everyone is and
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: it makes the song just even better from Glorilla, from
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Meg Cardi. It makes a song just like right now.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: It's like we're in the female rap era right now
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: and I love it and everyone's eating and this shit
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: is fire, and it's like I want to female rapper.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: So I hit some people on Instagram, some artists and
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: some local artists and stuff like yeah, and we're saying, no,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: all right, Tim, you gotta do yourself, bro. That is
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: what it is. Whatever, not even lying. Like three days later,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I go to Cheetah in Atlanta, and you know, you
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: know what, Cheata is in Atlanta. I gotta go to Cheetah.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It's great food, great food, great great restaurant.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, a great restaurant. So I go in there.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I promise you and everything I love, I promise you.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Bust it is you. And this song's playing on the
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: speakers as soon as I walk in the club. So
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, as I like, that's crazy. You know, we
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: just made the song Busted, and busses playing it's crazy.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Pay the lead lady of the front. I usually sit
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: like in the back in the wall. That's usually sit.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Everyone's taking all those all those seats are taken, so
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the only thing is available is the red booths. So
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I'm ca't gonna sit in the red booth.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I sit in the red booth. My friends come to
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: meet me. I see a girl Jojo Olonzo show Jojo Alonzo.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: She what's the nine six point one in Atlanta? I
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: see her and she's interviewed me and stuff, you know,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: because of the show My Jojo what's up? Juliet lo
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: And behold right behind her is Erica banks Ah. So
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's crazy, this is this is weird. I'm
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: telling you. I'm like, it's clairvoyant. Shit, it's weird. I'm like,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: we just made bust It. The song that was playing
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: on walked In is bust It. And now the person
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: who may bust it is right here in front of me.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: This is crazy. My homeboy Max shout out Max Tangy.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: He's a white boy. He used to work at STK.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: STK has a lot of celebrities go through Atlanta, you
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and people love it. He's an
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: outspoken white boy. He loves talking to people. So he
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: kind of kind of got cool with Erica, so he
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: kind of like knew her. So he was like, oh,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Erica was oh Max, he what's up? How you doing whatever? Whatever?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: He introduced me to Erica. Eric Alreay knew because the show,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: so I love your show. Whatever. Whatever. They go to
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the bathroom and I tell Max, I'm like, bro, should
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: we tell her about the song we just did bust It?
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Said yeah, let's do it. Bro. I'm like, hell, let's all,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: let's tell her about the song. They come back from
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: the bathroom and like Erica, Erica you know, like you know,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: you know, he had acting everything, but he don also
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: produces too. He does music too. And last, what's up?
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: So she really wasn't paying on you know. She's like,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: all right, O, cool. He just did a song called
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: bust It. And then Erica's face is funny. It's like
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I love Erica. She's great. It's like she was happy
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: and like cool. But it's also like, what, like, yeah,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I made a song called bust it, and so I
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I didn't know what to do. We didn't.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: We try to come up with something different, but that's
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the only thing we came up on, bust it. She's like, well,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: how do you spell it? I was like, ship, it's
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: the same way. Ship, it's the same jack. We're gonna
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: have the same song name slaying. She's like, oh cool,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: yeah cool. I'm like yeah, I'm sorry. She's like, uh,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: let me hear it. She ain't gotta tell me twice.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Here you go. She started hearing the song. She's no
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: in her head to him, Okay, she she might like
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: it a little bit. The song completely finishes. Let me
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: get on it, and I said, bringing people together, it's
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: a Tuesday night to random Tuesday. This is some weird ship.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: She said, let me get on it. I'm like lying.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: There's no way you're lying. There's no way you're telling
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the truth. Like no, I'm serious, make it on it
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: for real, change numbers next week, laid down her verse
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and she's on the song, and then we changed it
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: to go ahead buss it and then that's how it happened.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy too because I tell this story because
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I've just saying how God's working and it's ordained, and
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: it's like so interesting with the energy that is going
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: on in the world right now, which is with my life.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Is like the mixing engineer. So mixing is obviously integral
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: part of the song. It makes a song pop out
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and stand out and polishing basically a mixer can really
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: polish a song and make it like stand out.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: I gave my.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Tracking engineer a chance to mix it. So tracking engineers
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: one who records the song, and you give it to
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: the mixed engineer, and then you give it to the
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: mastering engineer to like really complete it. My tracking engineer
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the one who recorded it. I wanted to save a
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: little bit of money and I said, bro, can mix?
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Can you mix the song too? He mixes the song.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: The mastering engineer Kenny Mix. He's the guy who completes
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: the song masters it. He texts me it is like, bro,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: it's not what it needs to be. Basically, it needs
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: to be mixed a little bit differently, a little bit better.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: He's I got a guy that can mix the song
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: for you. His name is ray C s e A
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Y ray C. Who I'm like, Okay, I'm like, who
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: is he? Who is he? Come to find out, ray
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: C is the guy who mixed get Low and then
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: the song we interpolate to the one to the Wall.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: So it was so crazy how this all works out.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: It's like, bust it. We get Erika Banks and then
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: we get the guy who mixed the get Low records,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: so he know how it's supposed to sound, and then
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: he gave it that universal feel and then the song
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: ended up being what it is. So it's just like
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: all worked out. It's it's kind of you know what,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: It's also contagious energy.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: When you're thinking out good energy and you're believing in
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: things like.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Manifestation, like those things tend to pile on to each other.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And it happens naturally too, without forcing it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: And it's also important to go to.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: It definitely is. It definitely is. And it's the last
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: thing I say this, and I think that it's because
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: and I want people to hear this for real. It's
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: like I tell people this all the time. The greatest
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: thing you can conceive in this life is God. That's
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: why I tell people all the time. The reason I
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: say this is because that is the great thing you
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: can see, Like, no amount of cars can amount to God,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: no amount of money, no matter women, no matter of houses,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: and nothing can compare. So if you have that mentality,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: it allows things to happen naturally and organically without you
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: being desperate, because you're not desperate for anything, because you
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: already know you already have the greatest thing in life already.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: That's how I live my life. And that's why things
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: be happening because I don't put pressure on. Shit, I'm
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: gonna put pressure on. I gotta get this role. I
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: gotta I didn't put pressure on. I didn't get the role.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: At first. I wasn't like, oh my god, I go
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: to get the poor I was all right, next next part,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: we'll get the next one. You putting pressure on nothing,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: and then naturally it's just here here. I'm not putting
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: pressure on shit, and I want people to know that, like,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: just step into your purpose, walk your faith, and walk
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: your walk with faith, I mean, and just continue to
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: align yourself and being the best person you can be
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: and things going to happen naturally and fall into place
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: because people be desperate in one of the things, like
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: one of things that happen so fast because we live
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: in a comparison game. Social media is huge. It's rampid
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: right now and at the end of the day, it's
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: just like, you ain't got to be desperate for nothing.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Just know that God's with you, know that you're good
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: and it continues to be the best person in yourself
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: and everything's gonna fall into place, and that's what that's
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: that's how to lead with that.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: You're dropping a lot of gems today, Juliane.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: You know it's early too.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Stop telling everybody we're recording breakfast on Instagram.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: But you on the lookout for season two, Part two
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: of Beauty and Black and check out the two seasons
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: already their excellent and the new song as Jade twelve
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: go ahead bust it not bust it, go ahead, bust.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: It No here bus and Erica Banks Yes and shout
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: out to Cheetah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: For many reasons.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Love to thank you so much for for coming by.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: We really appreciate it.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Thanks so much to Julian for stopping by. Too Personal.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Make sure you check out Beauty and Black and his.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: New music video Gonehead Buss it all Right. Now it's
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: time for Never Too Personal. If you want to be
• 57:16
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• 57:20
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• 57:25
  Speaker 2: please do a PSA on emotional intelligence.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: PSA.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Emotional intelligence is something that is very very essential to
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: success in any aspect of your life. It's important to relationships,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: it's important to professional success, it's important to personal life balance,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: it's important to health.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: And it is the type of intelligence that you can't
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: really read in a book.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: You can't really learn from anything but experience and the
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: desire to tap into other people. I think when you
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: run into somebody who is not emotionally intelligent, they're kind
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: of the bull in the China shop. In the room,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: it's the saying you can't read the room. They just
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: walk in, they say something completely insensitive. They don't take
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: time it's happened to the energy of the situation. They're
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: just very much in their own bubble. They're not open
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: to what is happening, what people are feeling, what the
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: energy of the situation needs. And emotional intelligence is such
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: an essential type of intelligence if you want to be successful,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: because it's really interacting with other people where they are.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: And I think the best leaders are extremely emotionally intelligent.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: I think the best parents have emotional intelligence. The best partners,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: the best friends, the best people that you're going to
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: spend time around are ones that can tap into what
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: it is other people are experiencing, and not from a
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: brute or forceful way, but in a way where you
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: can see that someone is experiencing a certain type of
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: emotion and not be forceful in either speaking to them,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: reaching them, helping them, or in some cases just avoiding
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: them and giving them the space that they need. I
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: think emotional intelligence is incredibly valuable if you want to
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: be successful because you are able to maneuver around people
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: and with people in a way that makes them feel very,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: very seen, and it can be very motivating. So I
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: hope that was a solid PSA. It's not something that
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: you can develop overnight. Some people are just naturally emotionally intelligent.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Some people have to work at it. But it is
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: incredibly valuable and incredibly useful, incredibly useful.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: In a lot of different areas of life.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Great question, I think requests I don't know, but if
• 1:00:16
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• 1:00:26
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• 1:00:29
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