Latest / I Do, Part 2 / Love Island (EP 2): Crying?! Already? It’s Only Been 24 Hours!
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hey that folks. It is Thursday, June fourth, and Love
- 0:06Speaker 1: Island Season eight, episode two ended last night with a pricky,
- 0:11Speaker 1: big cliffhanger, and it appears one of two Islanders is
- 0:15Speaker 1: about to get kicked off. Is it gonna be the
- 0:18Speaker 1: cop who quit his job to be on the show,
- 0:22Speaker 1: or is it gonna be the girl that everybody seems
- 0:26Speaker 1: to be talking about? And with that, welcome to this
- 0:28Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ. She do we call the
- 0:32Speaker 1: star of the show yet Robes? Or she's the what
- 0:35Speaker 1: was it, hudah it was? Is she that? Already in
- 0:38Speaker 1: episode two.
- 0:39Speaker 2: We're talking about Kenzie and she's the most talked about,
- 0:43Speaker 2: but not for any of the reasons. She's gonna want
- 0:45Speaker 2: to hear because she's very intense, she's very expressive. Some
- 0:51Speaker 2: people might say she has crazy eyes. She's just a
- 0:55Speaker 2: lot and so, yes, everyone seems to be there're already memes.
- 0:59Speaker 2: My dog already sent me tiktoks about her, and I
- 1:02Speaker 2: think about you know what I said to Ava when
- 1:05Speaker 2: she sent me this TikTok yesterday, I said that poor
- 1:08Speaker 2: girl is going to leave the villa and she's going
- 1:10Speaker 2: to see all of this and of all the people
- 1:12Speaker 2: on that cast, she appears to be the least prepared
- 1:16Speaker 2: to handle it.
- 1:17Speaker 1: And it transitioned from episode one to us being a
- 1:22Speaker 1: little amused by her, a little annoyed by her, curious
- 1:27Speaker 1: about her, to a little sympathy for her because there
- 1:32Speaker 1: were some things we will get into in a second,
- 1:34Speaker 1: but we started to recognize that makes your heart go
- 1:37Speaker 1: out to her, and that's just the truth throats.
- 1:39Speaker 3: Yes, I agree.
- 1:40Speaker 2: However, this show ended season sorry, episode two ended with
- 1:45Speaker 2: her giving a massive eat shit look.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was also coming from a herd place.
- 1:52Speaker 1: That was also we'll explain the bond byer here. I'll
- 1:54Speaker 1: get into that in a second. And again, the other
- 1:57Speaker 1: person that by the cliffhanger is Sean, the guy who's
- 2:00Speaker 1: and talked about so much because the mayor of his
- 2:02Speaker 1: town was pissed because he actually quit his job as
- 2:05Speaker 1: a police officer, hadn't even been on the job a
- 2:07Speaker 1: year full year, didn't appreciate they're down one in a
- 2:11Speaker 1: small town.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Yes, he moved to this small town to be closer
- 2:14Speaker 2: to his child, who was I guess with his former girlfriends.
- 2:19Speaker 2: So he had just moved there and said sea when
- 2:22Speaker 2: he got the opportunity to be on.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Love Island to some degree, we could understand that, given
- 2:26Speaker 1: with some police officers get paid. But still it's okay.
- 2:30Speaker 1: So this is where we are. Let me, we had
- 2:32Speaker 1: impressions after the first episode. Let me just ask off
- 2:35Speaker 1: the top, second episode and the books, just first impressions.
- 2:39Speaker 1: I know we'll get into some stuff, but just reaction
- 2:41Speaker 1: right off the top.
- 2:42Speaker 2: I mean, it's getting good. The drama is building, and
- 2:45Speaker 2: I'm just wondering aloud as I watched episode two, is
- 2:49Speaker 2: kissing now like a directive? Are they telling the contestants
- 2:53Speaker 2: the Islanders to kiss as often as possible?
- 2:56Speaker 3: Seems like it, and my.
- 3:00Speaker 1: First impression is getting close. I said it to you
- 3:02Speaker 1: several times throughout. I said, they're about to lose me,
- 3:06Speaker 1: that this kissing stuff is too much. I don't know
- 3:08Speaker 1: if they think it's hot or who. Maybe they can't
- 3:10Speaker 1: control what the Islanders do, but they are setting them
- 3:14Speaker 1: up in scenarios robes to encourage that.
- 3:17Speaker 2: You're choosing people with makeout sessions. That is a directive
- 3:22Speaker 2: from the producers. They don't say the person's name aloud,
- 3:25Speaker 2: they just start making out. And it got to the
- 3:27Speaker 2: point where and people are starting different characters. I shouldn't
- 3:32Speaker 2: say characters because they're playing themselves. But certain people are
- 3:36Speaker 2: starting to grow on us a little more than others.
- 3:38Speaker 2: But Kse, the nursing assistant at a nursing home, when
- 3:44Speaker 2: some of the kissing was going on, he looked to
- 3:46Speaker 2: his girl and said, I can't watch this now. It
- 3:47Speaker 2: was a tense situation, but still I felt him in
- 3:52Speaker 2: that moment.
- 3:52Speaker 1: It's awkward, it's too much. And the word that's being
- 3:56Speaker 1: thrown around most, I suppose is cringey, it's MS. I
- 4:01Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I'm past whatever age to where I'm
- 4:05Speaker 1: the proof.
- 4:05Speaker 3: No, our younger kids are saying the same thing.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Oh but I just I do not understand this. And
- 4:12Speaker 1: they're thrown together in such a way. We're going to
- 4:13Speaker 1: talk about in cyclists do it now? The new feature
- 4:17Speaker 1: now where the bombshells take two people into the bed
- 4:21Speaker 1: and sleep with them that night. Well, I mean they're
- 4:24Speaker 1: setting up very sexual situations that I don't know why
- 4:29Speaker 1: they feel necessary a move mean to be edgier. Again,
- 4:33Speaker 1: it's their choice. I'm not the target audience, but man,
- 4:37Speaker 1: they're getting close to losing me.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unnecessarily sexual and provocative when I think look
- 4:44Speaker 2: maybe when you get more invested in a relationship and
- 4:48Speaker 2: in a couple where you're rooting for them or you
- 4:50Speaker 2: like them, it won't be so awful to watch them
- 4:52Speaker 2: make out, but to see strangers awkwardly make out one
- 4:56Speaker 2: after the other. I don't know anybody who finds that
- 5:00Speaker 2: be a small segment who thinks that's hot. I think
- 5:02Speaker 2: most people think that's gross.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Right next to each other. Okay, it's a decision, a
- 5:08Speaker 1: conscious one they're making, and it continues, and it will continue,
- 5:11Speaker 1: the doors and the surprises. Are you Are you liking this?
- 5:15Speaker 1: I kind of not.
- 5:17Speaker 3: I think it's a cop out. It's you know what.
- 5:19Speaker 2: It seems like they're trying too hard to be cute,
- 5:22Speaker 2: and I think just let it be what it is.
- 5:24Speaker 2: It's a great concept. We love watching actual relationships, and
- 5:29Speaker 2: not just romantic ones, but platonic and see how people
- 5:32Speaker 2: figure things out in groups. All of it is incredibly
- 5:34Speaker 2: from a social experiment standpoint, fascinating to watch. We don't
- 5:38Speaker 2: need some of the gimmicky stuff that they've now added.
- 5:42Speaker 2: I don't know why to make it they think more interesting.
- 5:45Speaker 2: It is so fascinating in on its own right.
- 5:48Speaker 1: I think it's been great and I guess they'll always
- 5:50Speaker 1: say shows have to evolve, try new things. Maybe the stuff,
- 5:53Speaker 1: the stuff won't come back. This is the one off.
- 5:56Speaker 1: I don't know, but the drama, even of the doors,
- 6:01Speaker 1: ends up making me feel bad because it ends up
- 6:04Speaker 1: we've seen several people humiliated essentially with that's a good word.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Yes, you open a door and it's empty on the
- 6:10Speaker 2: other side because a person has literally ditched you.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Because and you not even facing the person who has
- 6:16Speaker 1: now hurt you. They're just gone.
- 6:18Speaker 2: I don't and even the people who left who wanted
- 6:21Speaker 2: to keep their options open, which by the way, is
- 6:23Speaker 2: totally understandable after having just met someone twenty four hours before,
- 6:27Speaker 2: even one of the contestants, and I believe it was Beatrice, Beatrice,
- 6:31Speaker 2: I want to say her name right, but she even
- 6:33Speaker 2: said I felt so bad because I thought when he
- 6:36Speaker 2: opened the door and didn't see me there, I'd be
- 6:37Speaker 2: able to come back and explain to him, hey, I
- 6:39Speaker 2: like you.
- 6:40Speaker 3: I still want to.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Keep the door open, literally like figuratively excuse me for
- 6:45Speaker 2: a potential romance. But I also wanted to see what
- 6:47Speaker 2: else was out there and to make him understand so
- 6:50Speaker 2: for him not to get any explanation, and for her
- 6:52Speaker 2: not to be able to give one, she even felt
- 6:54Speaker 2: bad about.
- 6:55Speaker 3: And I do think it's unnecessarily cruel.
- 6:57Speaker 1: It's reality show ghosting. You just got dumped. They just
- 7:01Speaker 1: disappeared and no explanation why.
- 7:04Speaker 3: And the world is watching and now you feel a fool.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Yeah, and that stuff Robes is apparently playing out.
- 7:11Speaker 3: And it does and it hasn't sat well with Kenzi.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Okay, let's get the King for Let's get the King. Yeah, okay,
- 7:17Speaker 1: did what did we see in episode one from Kensey
- 7:20Speaker 1: and Folks One Room when she's the young lady from
- 7:21Speaker 1: Kennesaw just graduate from nursing school. I believe in.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Kenesaw, Georgia, and we know, I mean, oh my goodness,
- 7:28Speaker 2: so many of my friends talk just like her, look
- 7:30Speaker 2: like her, like she's someone who we know right, Like
- 7:33Speaker 2: she's got that Southern charm. But she's very intense and
- 7:38Speaker 2: immediately her eyes just everything about her it's she wants
- 7:43Speaker 2: this so bad and you can feel it, and you're
- 7:45Speaker 2: almost like, I'm in my mind begging her to pull back,
- 7:49Speaker 2: save something for later. She's just putting it all out
- 7:52Speaker 2: there and you just can see her setting herself up
- 7:55Speaker 2: for disaster and to that point. Episode two opens with
- 8:01Speaker 2: her having just seen that the door on the other
- 8:03Speaker 2: side was empty, and her.
- 8:07Speaker 3: Guy Zach, went to go see what else was out there.
- 8:09Speaker 2: But she had been crying like she just ended a
- 8:13Speaker 2: two year relationships and so that was what was really
- 8:17Speaker 2: uncomfortable to watch.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Its spiral from the moment that door opened, it spiraled
- 8:22Speaker 1: for her the rest of the show.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Yes, in fact, I actually have a quote that she
- 8:26Speaker 2: said because she's so baffled as to why Zach would
- 8:29Speaker 2: have not been on the other side of the door
- 8:32Speaker 2: when he clearly stated you're not my type beforehand. But
- 8:36Speaker 2: she said, I like how I look. I feel like
- 8:38Speaker 2: I'm in love with myself. I just want to feel
- 8:41Speaker 2: like that about someone else. It was kind of weird.
- 8:44Speaker 1: You know, And I got, that's so funny you and
- 8:46Speaker 1: I wrote down the same quote. I got. I started
- 8:49Speaker 1: with it at a different part when she said, I'm
- 8:51Speaker 1: being beat down, but I know I'm attractive, I know
- 8:54Speaker 1: how I look. That's how she started it. I'm being
- 8:57Speaker 1: beat down, rote down twenty.
- 9:00Speaker 2: And he just went to go see if maybe someone
- 9:05Speaker 2: else might be a better fit.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Which is the point of the show. Yes, but Robes rejection,
- 9:12Speaker 1: rejection stings on all levels at any point. No, mch
- 9:17Speaker 1: she had known this dude for how many hours? Even?
- 9:20Speaker 1: Was it even ours?
- 9:22Speaker 3: No, it was it was hours.
- 9:23Speaker 2: But then it was so interesting to watch Kenzie have
- 9:26Speaker 2: the conversation with Officer Fancy Pants Sean. The two of
- 9:30Speaker 2: them were the ones who were left standing. They had
- 9:33Speaker 2: chosen their partners and their partners had not chosen them.
- 9:37Speaker 2: And Kenzie asked to Sean, were there warning signs?
- 9:40Speaker 3: What do you mean signs? You would only you had
- 9:43Speaker 3: just met hours? How could there?
- 9:45Speaker 2: I was like, if she's talking about signs she missed? Also,
- 9:49Speaker 2: he made a very clear one to her. He told
- 9:51Speaker 2: her he had never dated a blonde before and that
- 9:54Speaker 2: she wasn't his type. I don't That was him trying
- 9:57Speaker 2: to be as kind as he could, kind of letting
- 9:59Speaker 2: her know pretty early on. I don't think I'm that India.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Okay, where is it, though? Roe, I'm trying to give
- 10:05Speaker 1: this young lady some space. Man, I'm trying to and
- 10:09Speaker 1: I'm trying to. This is where the only place you
- 10:11Speaker 1: and I have talked about this plenty off microphone here
- 10:13Speaker 1: and so you know I'm in your camp of what
- 10:15Speaker 1: the hell young lady. I'm trying to put them now
- 10:19Speaker 1: in this pressure cooker of a reality show to where
- 10:22Speaker 1: I could be off this show tonight and be gone
- 10:25Speaker 1: from Fiji and miss all these opportunities and might not
- 10:27Speaker 1: be a superstar.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Right, That's probably the source of her.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Intensity, need something towards.
- 10:33Speaker 2: It working against her though, to have that In fact,
- 10:36Speaker 2: as we're still on the topic with Kenzy, can we
- 10:38Speaker 2: talk about her Lyne in the Gazelle. She said that
- 10:41Speaker 2: she wanted her man to be like a lion and
- 10:43Speaker 2: her to be a gazelle, and that she would be
- 10:45Speaker 2: chased and he was only chasing after her. And then
- 10:48Speaker 2: she went on because Sean made her breakfast that morning
- 10:50Speaker 2: because her guy was gone, and I guess he put
- 10:53Speaker 2: the eggs in the shape.
- 10:54Speaker 3: Of a heart. Yeah, she got so intensely giddy.
- 11:00Speaker 1: She was happy, you're excited, but.
- 11:02Speaker 3: In a cautionary way for men, cautionary like it.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Almost looked like single white female or fatal attraction. It
- 11:09Speaker 2: was like, next thing, you know, she's boiling a bunny.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Like That's what it felt like. It was just there
- 11:14Speaker 2: was an uncomfortable intensity even to her happiness.
- 11:18Speaker 1: This is we don't know the young lady. Of course,
- 11:21Speaker 1: we've only got two episodes that we've only gotten to
- 11:24Speaker 1: know her. But if somebody told me she had boiled
- 11:27Speaker 1: a bunny.
- 11:27Speaker 3: You'd believe it.
- 11:30Speaker 1: I don't think I'd be shocked there. This is not
- 11:34Speaker 1: an indictment of her as a person. It's an observation
- 11:39Speaker 1: of her behavior on the show right now, and from
- 11:42Speaker 1: what we're seeing Robes she is the kindest middle ground
- 11:47Speaker 1: way to put it is a lot.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Yes, and you were even saying, Wow, they knew who
- 11:52Speaker 2: they were casting, because look, I do think, yes, they
- 11:57Speaker 2: don't need some of the gimmicks that they've already started
- 12:00Speaker 2: to sprinkle throughout the show, because if cast well, you
- 12:03Speaker 2: can just let things play off. And clearly I think
- 12:06Speaker 2: it seems as though this will be an interesting cast
- 12:10Speaker 2: that they've put together.
- 12:11Speaker 1: You know, I thought about this. I'm not sure how
- 12:15Speaker 1: it's going to go with this last ceremony, right, somebody's
- 12:17Speaker 1: supposed to get kicked off.
- 12:19Speaker 3: Yes, that'll be tonight.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course that'll be tonight. I wonder will
- 12:24Speaker 1: they make any adjustments and what I mean by that
- 12:27Speaker 1: rogues if they notice or pay attention to Wow, everybody's
- 12:30Speaker 1: talking about Kennedy.
- 12:32Speaker 2: They don't want her to leave. I actually think having
- 12:35Speaker 2: her leave will make the show more boring.
- 12:38Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the next most interesting character. Wow, actually,
- 12:44Speaker 1: who is the next most interesting character?
- 12:45Speaker 3: Casey?
- 12:46Speaker 2: Maybe from the nursing home like k Okay, I'm sorry,
- 12:48Speaker 2: I like Casey. He's got a great smile and you
- 12:50Speaker 2: know what he's not saying, what he's thinking. He's got
- 12:52Speaker 2: a big old grin on himself a lot of times,
- 12:54Speaker 2: and you're like, what's going on in that head? Also
- 12:56Speaker 2: should note still amazing favorite cast member is the narrator.
- 13:01Speaker 2: He has still been delivering some incredible funny one liners
- 13:05Speaker 2: that are clever and like, Casey had like a crocheted
- 13:09Speaker 2: looking tank and tank top, and we know he works
- 13:14Speaker 2: as a nursing assistant at a nursing home. He just said,
- 13:16Speaker 2: looks like one of his patients might have knitted him
- 13:18Speaker 2: a gift before he left.
- 13:20Speaker 3: I burst out laughing.
- 13:22Speaker 1: But yet this dude is doing this in real time. Yes,
- 13:25Speaker 1: he's seeing this video and reacting to what he's saying.
- 13:27Speaker 1: I bet he is so good live.
- 13:30Speaker 3: We got to get him on the show at some point.
- 13:32Speaker 1: He is.
- 13:33Speaker 2: He has been consistently our favorite character throughout and the
- 13:37Speaker 2: Bombshells have certainly added some very funny conversations.
- 13:41Speaker 3: We can get into some of these.
- 13:42Speaker 2: So each of the Bombshells got to steal, as you mentioned,
- 13:45Speaker 2: two people, and we got to watch them overnight in
- 13:48Speaker 2: a weird ass trio. But the conversations that they had
- 13:52Speaker 2: to try to get to know one another were hilariously entertaining.
- 13:56Speaker 1: What you do, it's awkward, You're thrown into a room.
- 13:59Speaker 1: I don't know. Rod is awkward if you're being filmed
- 14:01Speaker 1: constantly and you know you're supposed to be entertaining and
- 14:04Speaker 1: you want the audience to like you and you want
- 14:06Speaker 1: endorsements later, and all this stuff is in their heads.
- 14:08Speaker 1: And don't we know now there are people who train
- 14:11Speaker 1: these people before they go on these shows and how
- 14:13Speaker 1: to behave They all have media.
- 14:15Speaker 2: Teams and all this, But at a certain point, you
- 14:18Speaker 2: don't really have cameras on you. You are just you
- 14:20Speaker 2: fall into the bubble that it is, and I do
- 14:24Speaker 2: think ultimately your true self comes out.
- 14:26Speaker 1: I asked the bonfire at the end. We know how
- 14:28Speaker 1: that ended up being left And again they had to
- 14:31Speaker 1: add kissing one more time. Why so, yes, they were
- 14:36Speaker 1: the Bombshells had to pick one of the two people
- 14:38Speaker 1: they were going to choose, and all you have to
- 14:40Speaker 1: do is say their name, dude, but they said seal
- 14:43Speaker 1: it with a kiss. So then we have to watch
- 14:45Speaker 1: another makeout session in front of them. And then they're
- 14:48Speaker 1: making out in front of the person they just.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Rejected, correct, and the person they rejected on the couch too.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Oh yes, when you get.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Multiple rejections going on watching this makeout session, that part.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Of it added to Actually one more thing. Do you
- 15:01Speaker 1: like that they don't have the hosts come out and
- 15:03Speaker 1: do the bondfi when they have them do it.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Through No, I really think if Ariano Maddox is the
- 15:09Speaker 2: hit that she is, and I understand it's a six
- 15:11Speaker 2: week devotion of time in Fiji, but there are worse
- 15:13Speaker 2: places in the world to get stuck. They can't get
- 15:15Speaker 2: her to show up.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not suggesting, no, no, no, no. I thought
- 15:19Speaker 1: it was a strategic idea to sometimes have the drama.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Oh no, I wasn't suggesting at all that she wasn't available.
- 15:25Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, because that's what I was thinking. That
- 15:27Speaker 2: the reason why they're doing it is because that she's
- 15:30Speaker 2: otherwise occupied and.
- 15:31Speaker 1: That could be the case she had to go back
- 15:33Speaker 1: and oh not at the very beginning. Seems strange just
- 15:35Speaker 1: day two, so it seemed like they're doing that to
- 15:37Speaker 1: add to some drum.
- 15:38Speaker 2: They deliberately chose the people to read the directives from
- 15:42Speaker 2: someone who it would be awkward coming from.
- 15:44Speaker 1: Yes, so that's what happened at the end. So this
- 15:47Speaker 1: is what led to the Kinsey moment. Yes at the end.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Okay, So.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Kenzie and Sean are both brought up because they're now
- 15:57Speaker 2: single and vulnerable. So it's very obvious that tonight one
- 16:00Speaker 2: of those two is going home, Kenzie or Sean. So
- 16:05Speaker 2: all of a sudden at the end, they have Zach,
- 16:08Speaker 2: who did not show up, did not show up on
- 16:10Speaker 2: the other side of the door for Kenzie, whoted her
- 16:12Speaker 2: who she's been crying about for twenty four hours. He
- 16:15Speaker 2: had to read to Kenzie that she is now single
- 16:19Speaker 2: and vulnerable. So she then decides to blow a kiss
- 16:23Speaker 2: to him and say thank you as sarcastically as she
- 16:26Speaker 2: possibly can, and he kind of looked at his new
- 16:29Speaker 2: girl baffled, and looked back at Kenzie and.
- 16:31Speaker 3: Said you're welcome, very very quietly, and then.
- 16:35Speaker 2: She just gave him the biggest eat shit look and
- 16:39Speaker 2: the episode ended.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Of all the stuff Kinsey did, this was one I
- 16:42Speaker 1: would give her. Take that one sus to And they
- 16:46Speaker 1: set her up, of course with the show, and it
- 16:47Speaker 1: was probably a brilliant thing to do. Have the person
- 16:50Speaker 1: that rejected you read the text just.
- 16:52Speaker 2: For the extra rub. You're now vulnerable because I said no.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Because I told you all right. But stay here, folks,
- 17:00Speaker 1: we're actually gonna pick up with that point robes And
- 17:02Speaker 1: I always always say some of these reality shows, reality
- 17:07Speaker 1: dating shows, and yes, in particular Love Island sexy as
- 17:11Speaker 1: they are as fun as it all is, there are
- 17:14Speaker 1: real relationship questions and issues that come up. Stay here,
- 17:19Speaker 1: there are a couple in particular we should all pay
- 17:21Speaker 1: attention to.
- 17:31Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to our Love Island episode. We're gonna
- 17:35Speaker 2: be I think, are we fully committing or we're gonna
- 17:38Speaker 2: do our best? I know you hate that to basically
- 17:40Speaker 2: give you our synopsis or our thoughts on the episodes.
- 17:45Speaker 2: They just there are so many. They are putting up
- 17:49Speaker 2: episodes of Love Island's USA season eight every single night
- 17:54Speaker 2: except for Wednesdays. I think that's pretty awesome. But you
- 17:57Speaker 2: know what, they're smart. They know once you get hooked.
- 17:59Speaker 2: You want more, you want more, and you're gonna keep
- 18:02Speaker 2: tuning in. This is kind of a brilliant strategy for
- 18:05Speaker 2: them that has worked and keeps us watching and more importantly,
- 18:08Speaker 2: talking headlines are made every day.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Okay, well that's huge. Firsture headlines can you have and
- 18:15Speaker 1: just say they kissed again? There's the Brazilian tongue. Once
- 18:18Speaker 1: more people.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Are gonna start getting dumped. There's gonna be shocking moments.
- 18:23Speaker 1: You know, yes, I actually asked you this in the
- 18:25Speaker 1: seasons past. I'm not sure if I paid that close
- 18:28Speaker 1: attention early on. Maybe that's what it is. They have
- 18:30Speaker 1: to get past this little stage and when real relationships form,
- 18:33Speaker 1: I'm all in you start.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Yes, it's much like you start investing.
- 18:37Speaker 1: You know.
- 18:37Speaker 2: They even say when you're watching a scripted series it
- 18:39Speaker 2: takes a couple episodes to really get into it. But
- 18:42Speaker 2: once you're invested in each of these people, you care
- 18:45Speaker 2: what happens, you care how they react, you care who
- 18:48Speaker 2: they hook up with, you care who they end up with.
- 18:51Speaker 3: So you get invested.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Okay, then I will buy into that. So the question
- 18:56Speaker 1: this comes up all the time, and we saw it
- 18:59Speaker 1: play out on episode two. He was honest with her
- 19:05Speaker 1: that she Kinsey was not his type. He said it
- 19:09Speaker 1: as nicely as he could. I thought I did too. Okay.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Should he have been honest with her? No, he should
- 19:18Speaker 1: not have been.
- 19:18Speaker 2: No, he shouldn't have immediately told her I've never dated
- 19:22Speaker 2: a blonde before. I typically only like darker features. That
- 19:25Speaker 2: just hurts. That's nothing she can change. That's nothing that
- 19:28Speaker 2: she can do anything about. And to tell her that
- 19:32Speaker 2: was not the right way to say, Hey, I don't
- 19:35Speaker 2: know that we're a good fit. He could have absolutely
- 19:37Speaker 2: said something like that to her versus basically going.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Right after her looks immediately you want.
- 19:43Speaker 2: To talk about, well, if you could have just said, like, hey,
- 19:47Speaker 2: I'm feeling friend vibes with you. I think you're an
- 19:49Speaker 2: amazing girl, but I just want to put it out
- 19:51Speaker 2: right now, like just but don't go straight for her looks.
- 19:54Speaker 2: He told her that she wasn't his type based on
- 19:57Speaker 2: her looks immediately without really getting to know her. That
- 20:01Speaker 2: is tough to hear. That'll throw most women in a tizzy.
- 20:04Speaker 2: That's a tough thing to hear. In Kenzie's defense, that's
- 20:07Speaker 2: a hard hit right off the bat, and knowing that
- 20:10Speaker 2: everyone in America just heard him say that to you,
- 20:13Speaker 2: because what she hears is you're not attractive, You're not beautiful.
- 20:17Speaker 3: I don't think you're hot.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Man. You just said two fellas. Don't be honest with.
- 20:26Speaker 3: Us, not about certain things. Don't tell us. Don't be
- 20:30Speaker 3: honest with us when it comes.
- 20:31Speaker 2: If it's the way I look turned you off, you
- 20:34Speaker 2: don't need to tell someone.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Don't be honest with He didn't say turn me off.
- 20:38Speaker 1: Don't be honest with us.
- 20:39Speaker 3: Don't tell us you don't like how we look.
- 20:41Speaker 1: Don't be honest that I'm not your type. That's different
- 20:44Speaker 1: from I don't like how you look.
- 20:46Speaker 2: I just think that's exactly how it's interpreted and it's
- 20:50Speaker 2: how it was intended.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Okay, so that is very tricky for men. How what
- 20:55Speaker 1: is a guy to do? You asked for someone to
- 20:57Speaker 1: be honest with you, but only for so much, only
- 20:59Speaker 1: for these and if it's about this thing, only go
- 21:01Speaker 1: this far. Don't go for the look. Didn't go for anything,
- 21:05Speaker 1: but he did, No, he didn't. This is where I
- 21:07Speaker 1: will take issue ropes. They put them together, open a door,
- 21:11Speaker 1: kiss the stranger on the other side, and you want
- 21:13Speaker 1: to talk to me that I'm supposed to know her personality.
- 21:16Speaker 1: This whole thing is about looks, an attraction and sex.
- 21:20Speaker 1: I ain't got time for this. He could have been
- 21:23Speaker 1: much meaner. I thought he could have talked to her.
- 21:26Speaker 1: I don't because I do. He saw someone I could
- 21:29Speaker 1: get kicked off tonight. Why am I spending time with
- 21:33Speaker 1: someone I am not vibing with or not attracted to me.
- 21:36Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you at all that you should
- 21:38Speaker 2: do in these shows exactly what you want to do
- 21:42Speaker 2: in terms of what's best for you. But I also
- 21:45Speaker 2: think that men, probably when giving a reason for not
- 21:48Speaker 2: wanting to go on that second date, shouldn't reference looks
- 21:51Speaker 2: in any way.
- 21:51Speaker 1: Okay, then you're taking issue with a guy doing it
- 21:54Speaker 1: outside of the villa.
- 21:56Speaker 3: I just think if you don't want a girl to
- 21:58Speaker 3: be crushed, just.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Don't bring up her looks. I think we got friend vibes.
- 22:03Speaker 2: That's all I can tell you is I got friend
- 22:05Speaker 2: vibes with you.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Your girl. The bombshell when talking to Bryce, what do
- 22:11Speaker 1: you go for? And she listed everything in the world.
- 22:15Speaker 3: He's not okay, I have that written down and I agree.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Zach explained to Kinsey. Did he not? Yes?
- 22:22Speaker 2: But I would just say that Bryce obviously has a
- 22:26Speaker 2: much better self esteem.
- 22:29Speaker 1: I guess, wait, dear lady, so now the man needs
- 22:32Speaker 1: to measure the woman's self esteem.
- 22:35Speaker 3: No, I think most women.
- 22:36Speaker 2: I think most women would be offended if you said,
- 22:39Speaker 2: the reason why we're not going to have a second
- 22:41Speaker 2: date is because of the way you look.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Now ask this for me. Would most women respond the
- 22:47Speaker 1: way Kinsey has?
- 22:49Speaker 3: Yes?
- 22:50Speaker 1: Well, no ring and that's now it's something unique to Kinsey.
- 22:55Speaker 3: Well, her outward reaction was a lot.
- 23:00Speaker 2: I do think everyone would feel like if someone said
- 23:04Speaker 2: that to me, I would absolutely feel crushed inside, but
- 23:07Speaker 2: my pride probably wouldn't let me say it out loud.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Ask what type of person do you usually date? And
- 23:15Speaker 1: that answer is a description that might not be what
- 23:19Speaker 1: you are. Where are we finding fault in that response?
- 23:26Speaker 2: I'm not saying as it's wrong. I'm saying it will
- 23:31Speaker 2: be received offensively. That's what I'm saying.
- 23:36Speaker 1: And there it is. So this is the thing. I
- 23:38Speaker 1: guess we need to get that out. Don't be honest, fellas, No,
- 23:41Speaker 1: I'm kidding, that's just that obviously, I know when it
- 23:45Speaker 1: comes to looks.
- 23:45Speaker 2: When it comes to looks, maybe just recognize that that's
- 23:48Speaker 2: a real soft spot for most women.
- 23:51Speaker 3: It's for most women, And I don't know.
- 23:53Speaker 2: I don't think that men feel that vulnerable about their
- 23:56Speaker 2: looks in the same way women do. Women sometimes feel
- 23:59Speaker 2: like that's their only said, that's their only value. Unfortunately,
- 24:02Speaker 2: a lot of women do feel like that. I don't
- 24:04Speaker 2: think most men feel like that, and so I think
- 24:07Speaker 2: that is why there is a difference when we see
- 24:09Speaker 2: Bryce actually kind of laugh off the fact that she said,
- 24:12Speaker 2: basically when he said what your type, and she said,
- 24:15Speaker 2: I like dark features and he's blonde with blue eyes.
- 24:18Speaker 2: So obviously it was a very similar situation that we
- 24:22Speaker 2: saw with Kenzie and Zach. But Bryce is a hot
- 24:27Speaker 2: model who just let that roll right off his back.
- 24:30Speaker 1: Again. I'll take care as you were. But it's just
- 24:33Speaker 1: this idea now of I don't know, because it might
- 24:38Speaker 1: be insulting coming from man, right, this idea that we're
- 24:43Speaker 1: telling women not to accept an honest answer, like, well.
- 24:46Speaker 2: I don't think we're telling women not. I'm just saying
- 24:49Speaker 2: there's something to be consider.
- 24:50Speaker 1: You're telling miss You have said very clearly in this
- 24:53Speaker 1: episode fellas, don't do it.
- 24:54Speaker 2: So don't don't don't use a woman's looks as the
- 24:57Speaker 2: reason why you're not going on another day.
- 24:58Speaker 1: That is not what I'm saying here.
- 25:01Speaker 3: And even if it's like I'm saying, well, are.
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