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DIDDY CELL-EBRATION WHINES ABOUT BIRTHDAY GRILLED-CHEESE AS GRAND JURY LOOMS · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. It's a ditty celebration, that's right.
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Speaker 1: Sean Comes whining again about his birthday grill cheese sandwich.
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Speaker 1: He's worried about a grilled cheese sandwich as a grand
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Speaker 1: jury looms, I, Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. Day Wilcome.
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Speaker 2: When we will name names other than Shawn Comes, and
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Speaker 2: there's a.
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Speaker 1: Lot of names.
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Speaker 2: It's a long list already because the nature of this case.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna make damn shore, damn sure that we're right
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Speaker 2: before we do that. But the names that we're going
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Speaker 2: to name are names that will shock here.
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Speaker 3: Sean diddy Comb celebrated his fifty fifth birthday behind bars
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Speaker 3: at the MDC in addition to a call from his children.
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Speaker 3: Comes enjoyed a breakfast cake for his first meal of
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Speaker 3: the day and had a choice of pizza, salad, or
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Speaker 3: pasta for dinner. The Disgrace Mogul turned a year older.
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Speaker 3: Amidst a desperate battle in state of gag order has
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Speaker 3: more damaging claims emerge from complainants and witnesses. The latest
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Speaker 3: alegation that a grand jury witness is in possession of
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Speaker 3: at least eight of Didy sex tapes with a list celebrities,
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Speaker 3: some of them miners.
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Speaker 1: There's some controversy was it pasta or was it a
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Speaker 1: grilled cheese? In any event, Sean Comms need to stop
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Speaker 1: whining about his breakfast and lunch menu at MDC Correctional
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Speaker 1: Institute and start thinking about what the Grand jury is doing.
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Speaker 1: The Feds let me tell you, I was a FED
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Speaker 1: for three years. Love to do what we call a
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Speaker 1: superseding indictment. What is that? That is when they add
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Speaker 1: to the current indictment or revise translation change the current indictment.
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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. He's already under a federal indictment.
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Speaker 1: So why is the Green Jury continuing to meet? But
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Speaker 1: back to the urgent issue of the grill geese and
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Speaker 1: the birthday celebration. Joining me an all star panel to
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Speaker 1: make sense of what we know now? Straight out to
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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, a longtime colleague, host of Naughty but Nice
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Speaker 1: podcast which can mean so many different things, but former
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Speaker 1: publicist to Sean Combs and author of the four word
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Speaker 1: Answer very important. He was Combs's publicist for many years.
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Speaker 1: He was also Jennifer Lopez's publicist, and he has attended
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Speaker 1: many white parties. Okay, first question to you, and I'm
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Speaker 1: honor bound to ask this, rob Shooter, when you say
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Speaker 1: that you attended the white parties number one, where you
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Speaker 1: subjected to the requirements to attend a white party. In
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Speaker 1: other words, did you weigh over one hundred and forty pounds?
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Speaker 1: Did you wear a short dress where your quote butt
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Speaker 1: cheeks show? Were you wearing stilettos? Were you quote sexy
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Speaker 1: with low cut top? Because those are some of the
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Speaker 1: requirements that had to be met before you could put
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Speaker 1: one toe in a Diddy white party. Translation, you had
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Speaker 1: to wear all white. Also, did you have to stand
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Speaker 1: on a set of skills which were right there as
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Speaker 1: people were entering to make sure you weren't over one
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Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds? And were you subjected to an
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Speaker 1: age request where you asked how old are you? So
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Speaker 1: if you could just clear the air right now and
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Speaker 1: answer those questions, Shooter.
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Speaker 4: Let me be clear, I worked at Diddy in the
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Speaker 4: early two thousands, over twenty years ago, and he wasn't
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Speaker 4: yet the Diddy that we know today, So he was
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Speaker 4: still sort of figuring out who he was as a celebrity,
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Speaker 4: as a businessman, and so the party is that I
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Speaker 4: root for Diddy. I was a publicist. I organized the
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Speaker 4: press outside the red carpet, something we call a step
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Speaker 4: and repeat. Celebrities walk down and take pictures. Those parties
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Speaker 4: were about two thousand, Peace called. Now. There were codes
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Speaker 4: of conduct. You have to wear just white if you.
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Speaker 1: Jumped up in wait wait, wait, wait, excuse me? Code
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Speaker 1: of conduct? Are you serious? Code of conduct? You're you're
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Speaker 1: acting like he's trying to get into the Naval Academy.
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Speaker 1: A code of conduct. This is a dress code for
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Speaker 1: women only. They had to show their breasts and their backside.
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Speaker 4: I wasn't I never saw that list. What I saw
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Speaker 4: was a list to get into the regular party, the
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Speaker 4: ones that started at about ten o'clock, not the ones
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Speaker 4: that started at two or three am.
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Speaker 1: That's a very that's tenient. Isn't it that you knew
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Speaker 1: nothing about the attendance requests? But that said, I'm afraid
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Speaker 1: I'm pulling a Diddy right now. He's all worried about
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Speaker 1: having to eat a grilled cheese sandwich on his birthday
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Speaker 1: instead of the grand jury. Let's get down to what's
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Speaker 1: happening right now, other than whining about his treatment behind
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Speaker 1: at MDC. Doctor Dwayne Hendricks is joining me our associate
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Speaker 1: warden at m d C Metropolitan Detention Center. Former senior
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Speaker 1: warden with the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons,
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Speaker 1: Founder president of a New Daylight Foundation, and author of
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Speaker 1: Who Are You See It? Say It? And Sees It? Okay,
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Speaker 1: doctor Hendrix, was Diddy supposed to have a special birthday
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Speaker 1: celebration behind bars?
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Speaker 5: No, No, not at all. It's frequency discussed. There's a
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Speaker 5: national menu. What he ate on his birthday on Monday
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Speaker 5: was on the menu. And again, I don't continue to
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Speaker 5: understand why he's still complaining about Mills when he's been
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Speaker 5: there for well over going on two months now.
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Speaker 1: So well, hey, doctor Hendricks, nobody offered me cereal fruit
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Speaker 1: or breakfast cake whatever that is. Nobody offered me positive
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Speaker 1: with marinara sauce, meatballs and a salad. Really dinner chicken
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Speaker 1: or toad with fried rice, black beans and carrots. I
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Speaker 1: have to go in the kitchen and cout dinner every night,
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Speaker 1: and he's whining he had chicken, fried rice with black
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Speaker 1: beans and carrots. Is this all about his grilled cheese
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Speaker 1: or is it just the fact that he doesn't have
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Speaker 1: his private chef anymore. So let me see doctor Dwayne
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Speaker 1: Henrick again. Are you telling me the birthday boy did
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Speaker 1: not get special treatment on his birk?
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Speaker 5: The birthday boy did not get special treatment. He's being
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Speaker 5: treated just like every other incarcerated person in the building.
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Speaker 5: And I think the sooner that he understands that he's
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Speaker 5: just going to be just like everyone else, the better
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Speaker 5: off that he'll be in terms of him being at
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Speaker 5: the institution while he's a Wayne trial. So again, he
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Speaker 5: has welfish that's out.
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Speaker 1: Of their way. There's going to be a superseding indictment,
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Speaker 1: and he's going to have to sit put for quite
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Speaker 1: a while. Rob Shooter with me. Former publicist de Sean
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Speaker 1: Comes for many years also served as Jennifer Lopez's publicist
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Speaker 1: for a period of time, Rob Shooter, what meals did
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Speaker 1: did he normally have with his private chef? What was
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Speaker 1: on the menu at those white parties that you supervised?
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Speaker 4: He lived like a king, Nancy. I've never seen anybody
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Speaker 4: he lived like this. I worked with a lot of
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Speaker 4: celebrities and did he was the one that enjoyed being
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Speaker 4: a celebrity the most, like the perks of it. We're
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Speaker 4: talking lobster. We're talking nobu, We're talking the best sushi
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Speaker 4: in the world. He would kick his fingers and have
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Speaker 4: people deliver a cheesecake to him in the early hours
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Speaker 4: of the morning. What he has given up as far
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Speaker 4: as his LifeStyle's been taken away from him, as far
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Speaker 4: as his as his lifestyle is concerned, is extraordinary. Nobody
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Speaker 4: lived better than did.
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Speaker 1: Hey, don't you you say something about snapping his fingers
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Speaker 1: in the week morning hours and getting cheesecake delivered.
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Speaker 4: He did. If you worked for Diddy, you worked for
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Speaker 4: a tyrant. He was an absolute boss. He would text
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Speaker 4: me at four or five six am in the morning
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Speaker 4: and expect a response. It was a really stressful time.
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Speaker 4: He taught me how to be a publicist. And the
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Speaker 4: one thing about Diddy I want to point out that
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Speaker 4: people don't talk about enough if he was charming Dancy.
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Speaker 4: He was absolutely charming, which is why he'd probably got
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Speaker 4: away with what he did for so long.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't understand what's charming about getting a text
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Speaker 1: at four am to do what? What would he want
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Speaker 1: you to do at four am?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Guys, those are photos that have just emerged that indicate
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Speaker 1: that certain alleged victims were with Diddy at the times
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Speaker 1: they say they were, their faces have been blacked out. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what Shooter, what would anybody want at four am in
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Speaker 1: the morning.
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Speaker 4: He wanted to figure out what his next day publicity
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Speaker 4: would be. It was all about being the most famous
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Speaker 4: person in the world with pretty limited talent. He's not
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Speaker 4: the best singer or dance or actor, but get somehow
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Speaker 4: he made himself into the center of a circus. It's
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Speaker 4: almost like he was baring them. He was the ringmaster
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Speaker 4: of this circus that he ran. He was the boss.
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Speaker 1: I still don't understand exactly why he would text you
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Speaker 1: at four o'clock in the morning, and how you can't
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Speaker 1: continue to say that he was charming when.
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Speaker 4: You were wished Tod and I. I think this is
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Speaker 4: quite common with a lot of really bad people out there.
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Speaker 4: There was a sensic deity that he made you feel special.
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Speaker 4: He looked you in the eye, he showered you with gifts,
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Speaker 4: and now looking back, I can see how manipulative it
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Speaker 4: all was, But in the moment, he made everybody around
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Speaker 4: him feel very special.
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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter joining me for any but Nice podcast? Did
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Speaker 1: you just say? Did? It was not that talented.
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Speaker 4: He was not a natural finger, He was not a
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Speaker 4: natural actor. He was not a natural musician. I don't
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Speaker 4: think he plays an instrument. Yet he managed to make
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Speaker 4: himself into the center of the music business. That comes
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Speaker 4: with a certain amount of talent, with hutzpur with ambition,
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Speaker 4: But as far as traditional talents of a musical artist,
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Speaker 4: he did not possess them.
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Speaker 1: Well, guess what You're in good company. I guess you've
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Speaker 1: heard of the renowned music producer Quincy Jones. Listen.
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Speaker 6: Legendary music producer Quincy Jones passed away Sunday at the
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Speaker 6: age ninety one, and with his death, many are remembering
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Speaker 6: his brutal opinion of Sean Diddy Combs. Jones said to
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Speaker 6: artist Bruno Mars at a twenty twelve Spotify events at
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Speaker 6: that he did he wouldn't know a B flat if
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Speaker 6: it hit him. Jones describes Combs as a master marketer
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Speaker 6: but a lackluster producer. Moments after encouraging artists to really
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Speaker 6: learn their craft, Jones later took to social media to
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Speaker 6: say he didn't mean to diss the rapper and had
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Speaker 6: nothing but love and respect for Combs and his achievements.
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Speaker 1: Right, nothing but love, but would know would be flat
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Speaker 1: if it bit him in the neck. Joining me, Doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst, joining us from LA, author of deal Breaker.
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Speaker 1: You can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com
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Speaker 1: and see you're on Peacock. Doctor Bethany. Here is the
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Speaker 1: crux of what I'm getting at while a grand jury
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Speaker 1: is continuing to me. You know what that means, doctor Bethany.
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Speaker 1: That means twenty to life on multiple charges each. That's
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Speaker 1: what's happening right now. The fans are gonna pull. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to go to Josher Ritter on this in just
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Speaker 1: a moment, going to pull as they should if they've
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Speaker 1: got the evidence to support it. What we call a
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Speaker 1: superseding indictment, which means you add to or change the
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Speaker 1: existing indictment. So that's what I would be worried about
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Speaker 1: right now behind bars. Not my grilled cheese sandwich I
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Speaker 1: had on my birthday, Not whether Quincy Jones said I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't know a beef flat if it bit me in
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Speaker 1: the neck. But I guarantee, Bethany, that is what is
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Speaker 1: consuming him right now. I guarantee you too.
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Speaker 7: You know it does matter to him because he did
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Speaker 7: He only cares about his own bodily pleasures, whether it's food, sex,
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Speaker 7: the clothing that he wears. He is a glutton, okay,
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Speaker 7: so of course he's going to be staring straight at
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Speaker 7: that pasta marinara and wondering if the temperature is hot enough.
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Speaker 7: He lives his life for food and sex. He snaps
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Speaker 7: his fingers at four in the morning to get a
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Speaker 7: birthday cake delivered to him. He's I guess Freud would
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Speaker 7: use the term his royal highness the baby. He gets
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Speaker 7: everything he wants, and you know all that music, Nancy.
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Speaker 7: I think of music is a way to share a message,
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Speaker 7: share an emotional transformation you're going through, so that you
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Speaker 7: can help other people. Music for him was just to
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Speaker 7: sell through.
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Speaker 1: Mean, Bethany, you're telling me that Sean Comes aka Diddy
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Speaker 1: aka Puff aka Puffy aka puff Daddy aka Love and
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Speaker 1: anymore created music to express his own deeply failt emotions.
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Speaker 7: I'm saying the no.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying the opposite.
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Speaker 7: I'm saying most artists they express themselves through music because
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Speaker 7: they want to move and inspire others. He used music
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Speaker 7: to lure people in so he can rape them. It's
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Speaker 7: a perversion of that whole art form. It's like if
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Speaker 7: you painted a beautiful photo, painted a beautiful painting just
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Speaker 7: to invite guests to a gallery opening so you could
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Speaker 7: sure them champagne laced with drugs so you could rape
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Speaker 7: them all at the end of the night.
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Speaker 1: I think that's what.
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Speaker 7: Quincy Jones was referring to, not even knowing a bee
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Speaker 7: flat if it hit him in the face, you.
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Speaker 1: Had a mathony. Can I get us out of the
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Speaker 1: weeds and back in the middle of the road. What
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Speaker 1: does it mean when someone such in this case, such
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Speaker 1: as in this case is Sean Combs, is more worried
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Speaker 1: about his birthday grillties. He's sitting in the MDC, nobody
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Speaker 1: wants to be there, and he's angry he didn't get
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Speaker 1: his usual birthday I don't know Fantasia and he's upset
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Speaker 1: that Quincy Jones said he wouldn't be flat if it
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Speaker 1: bit him in the neck. What does this mean? And
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Speaker 1: could you please be concise because I'm trying to get
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Speaker 1: into his head. I'm trying to understand where he's going
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Speaker 1: to go at trial. People who are disturbed operate at
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Speaker 1: an infantile level. They are concerned about the things babies
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Speaker 1: are concerned with babies are concerned with being an eating
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Speaker 1: and being taken care of and coddled. And that's all
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Speaker 1: he cares about. That's his psychopathology. He's primitive and infantile.
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Speaker 8: Sean Diddy Combs has now been sued with claims of
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Speaker 8: molestation and sexual assault, whopping twenty seven times with more
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Speaker 8: on the horizon. Houston lawyer Tony Busby has filed seven
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Speaker 8: new lawsuits on top of the six already filed last week.
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Speaker 8: Two of the latest anonymous plaintiffs are miners, and several
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Speaker 8: unnamed celebrities are mentioned in the accusations. The cases have
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Speaker 8: all been assigned to different judges, with at least two
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Speaker 8: asking the filers to justify their anonymity.
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Speaker 4: A birthday, I'm happy, thank you very much.
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Speaker 9: I love you.
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Speaker 5: I love you in a couple of days.
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Speaker 10: I know Daddy by right here he on the Florence
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Speaker 10: here Pops love you. You know you can't, so you're
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Speaker 10: not gonna have none love.
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Speaker 1: That is from Prince j d C on Instagram. You
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Speaker 1: know to doctor Bethany Marshall. That video to me is heartbreaking,
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Speaker 1: not for Combs because he did this to himself at
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Speaker 1: the expense of many, many alleged victims that were raped.
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Speaker 1: But it's sad to me because of his children. I
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Speaker 1: mean how many. Just the other day I did the
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Speaker 1: birthday videos of the twins for their birthday. Okay, long
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Speaker 1: and extensive birthday videos which I have already started looking
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Speaker 1: back at happily. And their father is behind bars, and
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Speaker 1: it hurts me for them to be going through this.
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Speaker 1: And of course there's no way he's ever going to
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Speaker 1: admit to any of this. I mean, think about Scott
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Speaker 1: Paterson to this day. He is dug in. He's never
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Speaker 1: going to admit no matter what, and he's dragging everybody
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Speaker 1: along with him, including his family. Same thing with Combs Nancy.
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Speaker 7: Whatever Colm's attachment style is with his victims, wanting to
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Speaker 7: have power over them, to exploit them, his attachment style
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Speaker 7: will be the same with his children. It'll just take
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Speaker 7: a different form, maybe interpersonally offending with them by getting
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Speaker 7: them to listen to his stories, by manipulating them into
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Speaker 7: thinking things that are not true. So these poor children,
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Speaker 7: not only are they living a life without their father,
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Speaker 7: but they're going to spend their entire adult lives dismantling
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Speaker 7: the mythology that their dad is great and loving and kind, and.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they ever will, Bethany, I don't
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Speaker 1: know that they ever will. Because who wants to hear
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Speaker 1: something right about their parents? Nobody, most people, And they
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Speaker 1: attacked the tables them. I don't think they're going to
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Speaker 1: dismantle anything.
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Speaker 7: Well, maybe some will and some won't.
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Speaker 1: We'll see what their resiliency is.
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Speaker 7: I think what you're suggesting, Nancy is they'll stay in
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Speaker 7: a state of idealization and denial about their father, which
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Speaker 7: many adult children do. But look, there's sometimes we have
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Speaker 7: adult children who turn their parents in for crimes. They
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Speaker 7: can see, they can see the parent, who who the
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Speaker 7: parent is. So this is something that we will.
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Speaker 1: Learn going forward to Crime online dot Com investigative reporter
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Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner, what were the ages of the youngest alleged victims,
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Speaker 1: because many of them are younger than Didi's own children.
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Speaker 1: Let's just think about.
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Speaker 4: That for a moment, Nancy.
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Speaker 11: The latest filing from a minor at the time who
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Speaker 11: claims they were attacked as a minor with a ten
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Speaker 11: year old boy auditioning for combs. They also have a
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Speaker 11: thirteen year old and Tony Busby has said that a
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Speaker 11: nine year old victim plans to file. So lots of
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Speaker 11: young children here, sixteen, nineteen years old in Combes's youngest child,
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Speaker 11: Love is just about two years old now, and his
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Speaker 11: twins are seventeen themselves.
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Speaker 1: To Chris mcdunn and joining me, director of the Cole
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Speaker 1: Case Foundation and for my purposes, former homicide detective and
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Speaker 1: vice detective. He is a host of a blockbuster YouTube channel,
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Speaker 1: The Interview Room. Chris, I'm speaking of the alleged younger victims, juveniles,
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Speaker 1: alleged victims. This has not been proven in court yet.
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Speaker 1: There are many of them, and they all have a
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Speaker 1: startlingly similar story that they wanted to audition to get
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Speaker 1: into the music industry through Comb's and the audition would
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Speaker 1: often include him forcing or asking for oral sex from
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Speaker 1: a minor. My question to you is we see the
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Speaker 1: same modus operandi, method of operation alleged over and over
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Speaker 1: and over. I mean, can you teach an old dog
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Speaker 1: a new trick? Apparently not?
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Speaker 3: You're one hundred.
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Speaker 12: Percent right, Nancy, And that pee in his name may
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Speaker 12: have a whole different meaning. Now, the fact that he
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Speaker 12: is living this secret life, you know, behind the scenes
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Speaker 12: and projecting this public persona I e.
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Speaker 9: On that phone call. It just goes back to doctor
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Speaker 9: Bethany's thought process and relationship to you know, total power
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Speaker 9: and control, and the fact that he's choosing children. Okay,
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Speaker 9: that just puts him at a whole different level because
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Speaker 9: now as he projects, you know, hey, so I beat
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Speaker 9: somebody up in the past, I'm sorry for that, He's
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Speaker 9: going to have no feeling in relationship to these children
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Speaker 9: at all. He's past feeling there.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, so Jirov Sater to a
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Speaker 1: Not Even Nice Podcast, former publicist to Sean Combs and
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez Rob I'm hearing what Chris mc dunnet is saying,
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Speaker 1: and we're talking about the MOO method of operation, where
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Speaker 1: you basically think you can get away with anything, you
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Speaker 1: can demand anything, and you can get it. What was
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Speaker 1: it like? Was that true when you worked for him?
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Speaker 4: When I started working with Diddy about twenty years ago,
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Speaker 4: he was still flexed in his muscles. He was early
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Speaker 4: on in his career. He wanted to become a big
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Speaker 4: mobile so he was still still trying to figure it
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Speaker 4: all out. Was he arrogant, was he rude? Was he
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Speaker 4: aggressive yet? Or he had yet to figure out just
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Speaker 4: how powerful he was or he was going to be.
20:44
Speaker 4: But I think about the children, if I can just
20:46
Speaker 4: jump in for a second here. What alarms me about
20:48
Speaker 4: that video with the kids is that should have been
20:51
Speaker 4: a private celebration conversation with his family. The fact that
20:55
Speaker 4: they videoed that and put it on social media telled
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Speaker 4: me that Puffy's to use these kids in his defense.
21:02
Speaker 4: He's now fighting two battles, a legal battle and the
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Speaker 4: battle of public opinion, which really matters to him. And
21:08
Speaker 4: in the second battle, he will use his kids or
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Speaker 4: whoever to try and present himself as a caring father.
21:15
Speaker 4: Not true.
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Speaker 3: The world of Diddy Freakovs has physical requirements for all
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Speaker 3: women taking part, and the list is now public. You
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Speaker 3: cannot be over one hundred and forty pounds other no
21:25
Speaker 3: nos on the list. No flab, no celluli, nobody who's
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Speaker 3: overly pierced, are two tatted up, no short hair, no pants,
21:31
Speaker 3: no genes. You have to be young and hot and
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Speaker 3: showing cleavage. You must wear provocative, revealing clothing with stilettos,
21:37
Speaker 3: nothing else. Every girl has to wear a party dress,
21:40
Speaker 3: a short party dress, short enough to just cover the
21:43
Speaker 3: butt cheeks. The Metropolitan Detention Center has been under increased
21:48
Speaker 3: scrutiny since two inmates were fatally stabbed over the summer.
21:51
Speaker 3: A recent interagency operation at the MDC turned up numerous
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Speaker 3: homemade weapons, electronic devices, and drugs hidden throughout the prison.
21:58
Speaker 3: Investigators say the large scale sweet for contraband had nothing
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Speaker 3: to do with Shaun cums incarceration, but was pre planned
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Speaker 3: and coordinated to ensure the safety and security of staff
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Speaker 3: and inmates.
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Speaker 1: Right. It has nothing to do with Sean Combs being
22:11
Speaker 1: an inmate there after his disastrous grilled cheese sandwich. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure he's complaining.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: Now let me understand to you, Sidney Sumner or Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter, tell me about the MDC
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Speaker 1: increased scrutiny because I understand more than one agency is
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Speaker 1: investigating MDC.
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Speaker 11: Why, Nancy. We believe this is due to the stabbings
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Speaker 11: in incredible violence that happened at the MDC. We know
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Speaker 11: that federal agents and the Bureau of Prisons started this
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Speaker 11: investigation and wanted to tape all of the contraband in
22:47
Speaker 11: the prison out. They needed to eradicate this to really
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Speaker 11: help inmates and staff stay safe because the amount of
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Speaker 11: violence at the NBC is ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Of hornt okay well, so far in the claims by
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Speaker 1: Combs that he has been attacked or mistreated in any
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Speaker 1: way other than the grilled cheese. So large scale sweep
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Speaker 1: for contraband, including electronic devices, homemade weapons I Eate a shank,
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Speaker 1: drugs and more. Now, who else has lived at MDC?
23:19
Speaker 1: A lot of celebrities, so Diddy is not alone. Let's
23:23
Speaker 1: say they're sixty nine. Oh, he doesn't look happy. Alison
23:26
Speaker 1: mack r Kelly, whose case is very similar to Combs,
23:31
Speaker 1: is Keith Rainier, Michael Cohen, Jelaine Maxwell, in Sam Bateman freed.
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Speaker 1: There are so many high profile celebrities. But to you,
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Speaker 1: doctor Dwayne Hendrick's former associate Warden at MDC, I didn't
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Speaker 1: hear any of them whining about their grilled cheese. And
23:51
Speaker 1: I wait a minute, Jelaine Maxwell did whine about being
23:55
Speaker 1: cold or something to that effect that said, I didn't
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Speaker 1: hear them whining they didn't get special treatment on their birthday.
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Speaker 5: No, And in terms of the sleep that went through
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Speaker 5: the interagency action that went through the institution last week,
24:12
Speaker 5: it's not in common that these interagency actions are occurring
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Speaker 5: several months ago and in Florida, a large prison federal
24:19
Speaker 5: prison complex also had a multi agency sweep which led
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Speaker 5: to with LEDs to charges to inmates and staff due
24:27
Speaker 5: to a homicide and staff bringing and contraband. Now I
24:31
Speaker 5: will say I don't believe the sweep last week had
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Speaker 5: anything to do with Diddy. However, with the increased scrutiny
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Speaker 5: on the institution in these.
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Speaker 1: Are you telling me you believe in coincidences that Diddy
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Speaker 1: whinds about his treatment and about MDC and then suddenly
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Speaker 1: there's a sweep.
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 5: I think there was obviously several weapons, cell phones, and
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Speaker 5: different things of that nature. And I think the agency
24:57
Speaker 5: has learned from other media issues in terms of, you know,
25:02
Speaker 5: trying to keep things in house, so to speak, and
25:06
Speaker 5: I think by bringing our law enforcement partners, it brings
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Speaker 5: transparency and it also helps create a safer environment. But
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Speaker 5: I do I will also admit having Sean Holmes there
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Speaker 5: and all eyes on the institution, especially with some of
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Speaker 5: the issues that they've had there over the last several years,
25:24
Speaker 5: that made that next multi agency suite probably happening a
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Speaker 5: lot faster than it would have maybe a.
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Speaker 1: Few So now you're saying it is connected. Okay, you
25:35
Speaker 1: cannot have your cage on a similar and eat it too.
25:39
Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you a moment to think
25:41
Speaker 1: about what you just said and then come up with
25:43
Speaker 1: your decision to Shawn comes being there have anything to
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Speaker 1: do with a sweep across the entire MDC revealing what
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Speaker 1: a lot of weapons, cell phone devices, and much more drugs, shanks,
25:55
Speaker 1: you name it, Josh Ritter, When you and behind bars guys,
26:01
Speaker 1: Joshua ridd is a renown criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor,
26:05
Speaker 1: and host of Courtroom Confidential on YouTube. You can find
26:09
Speaker 1: them at Joshua Ridder dot com. I'm always amazed that
26:14
Speaker 1: people lead a life of crime and when they end
26:18
Speaker 1: up behind bars, they're like, what this is awful? Okay, yeah,
26:23
Speaker 1: it's jail, But do they not understand that a life
26:27
Speaker 1: of crime leads to incarceration.
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Speaker 13: Well, I think one thing that criminals don't do is
26:33
Speaker 13: think about consequences. Most of their life has lived on
26:37
Speaker 13: this idea that they're going to get away with it.
26:39
Speaker 13: So yeah, there's a lot of rude awakenings when they
26:42
Speaker 13: end up behind bars. It's an incredibly uncomfortable is not
26:47
Speaker 13: even the right word for it. It's an incredibly horrible
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Speaker 13: place to be in. I mean, you're you're first of all,
26:53
Speaker 13: you're lacking all kinds of comfort. But secondly, as we're
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Speaker 13: finding out, it's also incredibly stressful, a horrible place.
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Speaker 1: How do you think those women feel when they wake
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Speaker 1: up the next morning still greased up with baby oil
27:05
Speaker 1: infused with g HB gama hydroxy butty eight, with their
27:09
Speaker 1: rear ends and their vagina's herding. What about that? And
27:13
Speaker 1: you're telling me Gella is a horrible place.
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Speaker 13: To be And yeah, no, you're absolutely right, And that's
27:20
Speaker 13: why he's ever.
27:21
Speaker 1: Wake up morning govern baby hurting ridder.
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Speaker 13: Not No, I cannot say that that I've experienced that.
27:28
Speaker 4: But lucky you.
27:30
Speaker 1: I guess you didn't go to a white party, you know,
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Speaker 1: Rob Sheeter, I agree with what Richard just said that
27:37
Speaker 1: criminals do not think about consequences of what they are doing.
27:41
Speaker 1: Rob Sheeter, could you just give me a peek into
27:45
Speaker 1: the lifestyle that Sean Combs enjoyed before he ended up
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Speaker 1: in MDC.
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Speaker 4: He lived like a king, like an absolute king. Could
27:55
Speaker 4: he afford the best of the best, from private plane
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Speaker 4: to the best restaurants to the best clothes. The most
28:00
Speaker 4: important part of this that we don't talk about enough
28:03
Speaker 4: is that it's the way people would treat him. Puppy
28:06
Speaker 4: could get on the stone with pretty much anybody, and
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Speaker 4: a winter who runs Vogue magazine in fd lrder If
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Speaker 4: he wanted a fravrance whatever giddy place to call, it
28:16
Speaker 4: was returned. He loved being a celebrity. He went out
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Speaker 4: all the time, the parties he played, and he literally
28:23
Speaker 4: was the king of New York for quite a period
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Speaker 4: of time. It wasn't that sure.
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Speaker 1: The NDC Brooklyn amenities okay, indoor outdoor facilities for games
28:33
Speaker 1: and sports, cable TV, movie nights on weekends, True linked
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Speaker 1: tablets for communication. I guess it's like an iPad and
28:44
Speaker 1: a library. Wait a minute, in or outdoor facilities that
28:47
Speaker 1: mean basketball and tennis, cable TV. I hope he's watching
28:51
Speaker 1: right now. Movie nights on weekends. Nobody's giving me a
28:55
Speaker 1: movie night? Does that come with partcorn and soda? True
28:58
Speaker 1: linked tablets, I guess, says an iPad and a library.
29:03
Speaker 1: Now to you, Rob Shooter, what would a day in
29:07
Speaker 1: the life of Ditty be like before? In DC?
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Speaker 4: It would be extraordinary. He looked like a change. He
29:14
Speaker 4: looked like a superstar. He would wake up, he'd have
29:17
Speaker 4: people there to make his breakfast. They'd have people there
29:19
Speaker 4: to dress him. It'd have clothes brought him and he
29:22
Speaker 4: could select. He would then get in a show for Limos.
29:25
Speaker 4: He's driven to his office where he'd spend a couple
29:27
Speaker 4: of hours, and then he would go to the gym,
29:30
Speaker 4: and then he'd meet friends for dinner. It was an
29:32
Speaker 4: extraordinary life and people to jump. He could send people
29:37
Speaker 4: and they would take those calls and.
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Speaker 3: Just crime stories with Nancy Grace ja Ja Rune Subramaniam
29:52
Speaker 3: rejects a gag order proposal from the defense team for
29:54
Speaker 3: Sean Ditty Combs did. He claims government officials are leaking
29:57
Speaker 3: information about him to the media in an effort make
30:00
Speaker 3: him look dangerous to prevent every from getting out on
30:02
Speaker 3: bond before trial. After ejecting the proposal from Ditty, the
30:05
Speaker 3: judge adopts a gag order similar to that requested by Combs.
30:09
Speaker 3: The judges order insists federal agents, investigators, and Ditty's team
30:13
Speaker 3: must follow the laws forbidding them from leaking grand jury
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Speaker 3: proceedings that can create problems for a fair trial.
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Speaker 1: Two. Joshua Ritter high profile lawyer. Isn't it true that
30:22
Speaker 1: Combs is facing new grand jury testimony while prosecutors have
30:28
Speaker 1: rejected a demand that he that they be forced to
30:34
Speaker 1: reveal the accusers' identities, and that Comb's is insisting that
30:41
Speaker 1: everyone potential witnesses be under a gag order. Is that
30:46
Speaker 1: what they are arguing right now?
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Speaker 13: Yes, And the government's saying absolutely no. Dies, There's no
30:51
Speaker 13: way they're going to be handing over this information about
30:54
Speaker 13: the alleged victims impossible witnesses because they're trying to protect
30:58
Speaker 13: these people. They know the kind of power this man.
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Speaker 1: Well, another thing is that this is another thing, Joshua,
31:06
Speaker 1: is that such a gag order would be placed on
31:09
Speaker 1: potential witnesses, including civil compliance that are suing for money. Well,
31:15
Speaker 1: I do see one problem. A grand jury witness came
31:19
Speaker 1: out and had a press conference. Listen.
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Speaker 6: Courtney Burgess, reportedly a friend of the late Kim Porter,
31:24
Speaker 6: tells reporters outside the courthouse that he just testified in
31:27
Speaker 6: front of the Diddy grand jury as a witness. Burgess
31:30
Speaker 6: claims that Porter gave him eleven flash drives for safekeeping
31:33
Speaker 6: shortly before her death. Burgess says the drive store at
31:36
Speaker 6: least eight sex tapes picturing Colmns with different a list
31:39
Speaker 6: celebrities who Burgess describes as victims, two or three of
31:43
Speaker 6: whom appear to be minors. Burgess claims he no longer
31:45
Speaker 6: has possession of the tapes.
31:47
Speaker 1: Why did a grand jury witness come out and hold
31:50
Speaker 1: a presser claiming that he has videos of celebrities at
31:54
Speaker 1: the party. Why would he do that? What is his
31:58
Speaker 1: motivation for implicating celebrities?
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Speaker 14: Well after that presser this happened two days after Courtney
32:04
Speaker 14: Burgess publicly discusses his testimony, Shawn Combs's legal team submits
32:07
Speaker 14: a letter to Judge Subramanian demanding with renewed urgency that
32:11
Speaker 14: he established a gag order. The defense attorneys specifically cite
32:14
Speaker 14: Courtney Burgess' eagerness to speak with the media and a
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Speaker 14: New York Post article using a federal agent as a
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Speaker 14: source as improper pre trial publicity that is making it
32:25
Speaker 14: impossible for comes to have a fair trial.
32:28
Speaker 1: If that's true, that a federal agent or a federal employee,
32:31
Speaker 1: it could be the person making xerox copies for all
32:33
Speaker 1: I know that works in the courthouse. The state's got
32:36
Speaker 1: to ferret out who is making links if anyone. But
32:39
Speaker 1: the Feds are fighting back. Listen.
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Speaker 6: Federal prosecutors are fighting Comb's requests to identify his accusers,
32:45
Speaker 6: calling the defense's petition an attempt to hijack the criminal
32:49
Speaker 6: case to fight civil claims against him. Prosecutors cite serious
32:53
Speaker 6: and ongoing concerns for victims and witnesses safety as reason
32:57
Speaker 6: enough to deny Comb's demand, But the Feds also that
33:00
Speaker 6: asking the judge to force an early disclosure of evidence
33:03
Speaker 6: is a thinly veiled attempt to restrict the government's proof
33:06
Speaker 6: at an early stage of the case.
33:08
Speaker 1: In the middle of all of this, a celeb weighs
33:13
Speaker 1: in slamming, of all people, Jennifer Lopez. Okay to you,
33:19
Speaker 1: Rob Shooter. Look, I don't have an opinion one way
33:22
Speaker 1: or the other. On Elon Musk, he must be brilliant
33:25
Speaker 1: to be launching rockets. Well, some of them work. But
33:28
Speaker 1: that said, the guy's got to be a braining act.
33:31
Speaker 1: But why is he waiting into the show?
33:35
Speaker 14: On Combs Controversy, listen, Elon Musk is slamming Jennifer Lopez
33:39
Speaker 14: for her failure to warn anyone about Ditty's disgusting behavior.
33:43
Speaker 14: Musk comments that someone had to know that Combs was
33:46
Speaker 14: abusing women and children, but the music industry continued to
33:50
Speaker 14: feed him victims. Lopez has always remained very tight lipped
33:54
Speaker 14: about their relationship, but did reveal Combs often referred to
33:57
Speaker 14: their relationship as a marriage and frequently threatened her with divorce.
34:02
Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, you repped j Loo and Sean Combs. What
34:07
Speaker 1: was the nature of their relationship? All I know was
34:10
Speaker 1: after that nightclub shooting, she broke.
34:13
Speaker 4: Up with him, right, That's right. Jennison would credit Sean
34:17
Speaker 4: with creating a lot of her career. She changed the
34:19
Speaker 4: name to j Loo because of his recommendation. He's the
34:22
Speaker 4: one that encouraged her to get into the music this
34:25
Speaker 4: to release albums. He stead her up with several different
34:28
Speaker 4: producers so early on in her career. He was quite
34:30
Speaker 4: helpful for her. However, after that shooting incident in the
34:35
Speaker 4: nightclub where she was presented at the time, that was
34:37
Speaker 4: the end of their relationship. Rantically, they did stay friend,
34:41
Speaker 4: don't talk to one another.
34:43
Speaker 1: It is praise please stop stop stop, Rob Shooter. They
34:48
Speaker 1: stayed friends. Uh uh she all you can see j
34:52
Speaker 1: Lo was elbows and tailhole. She ran the other way.
34:56
Speaker 1: Of course, She's saying, oh, we're still friends. Who wants
34:59
Speaker 1: to store up before was Sean comes? For Pete's sake?
35:01
Speaker 1: Why are you saying they stayed at friends? That's stuff
35:04
Speaker 1: when you break up with a bad boyfriend. Oh yeah,
35:06
Speaker 1: we're still friends. No you're not. Why are you saying that?
35:09
Speaker 4: Good question. She did maintain publicly that her and puppy
35:13
Speaker 4: was still friends. Now, I represented both of them, and
35:15
Speaker 4: I can tell you when I worked for them, they
35:17
Speaker 4: were not together romantically, and both accounts were very separate.
35:21
Speaker 4: She never ever asked me about him. He always asked
35:24
Speaker 4: me about her.
35:24
Speaker 1: Hmm. Interesting, So he was thinking about her a lot
35:28
Speaker 1: more than she was thinking about him. Doctor Bethony Marshall again,
35:32
Speaker 1: I would not know Musk if he bit me in then, Nick,
35:35
Speaker 1: but you've got to agree he's a brainiac, Okay. Why
35:38
Speaker 1: he would inject himself in the middle of all this
35:41
Speaker 1: much less attack?
35:42
Speaker 2: J Lo.
35:43
Speaker 1: So what if she did disagree with his behavior? Why
35:48
Speaker 1: do you think she turned hail? I'm wondering with Elon Musk.
35:51
Speaker 7: If you have one power hungry man taking advantage of
35:55
Speaker 7: another person's waning power. Now Elon Musk is going to
35:58
Speaker 7: be at the head of the heap right, And I'm
36:00
Speaker 7: sure j Lo had to say that she was friends
36:03
Speaker 7: with P Diddy because he was probably stalking her like
36:07
Speaker 7: he stalked all of his victims. And when a woman
36:10
Speaker 7: is being stalked, the last thing she's going to do
36:13
Speaker 7: is say anything negative about the stalker. She's going to
36:16
Speaker 7: smooth it over as much as she can.
36:19
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't like seeing Jennifer Lopez attacked
36:24
Speaker 1: because of not taking a public stand against her benefactor
36:30
Speaker 1: and mentor that helped her in her career, that said
36:36
Speaker 1: final word to you.
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Speaker 7: Bethany, Well, she probably had a lot to lose by
36:39
Speaker 7: taking a stand because he probably had power over her,
36:42
Speaker 7: like he had power over every other victim in his life.
36:44
Speaker 3: A form playboy model claims Diddy invited her and two
36:47
Speaker 3: friends to a Tokyo party that she now believes was
36:49
Speaker 3: a freak off. Rachel Kennedy says she met Combs at
36:52
Speaker 3: a Tokyo club where she worked, and he returned the
36:55
Speaker 3: next night to invite her to a party. When Kennedy
36:57
Speaker 3: and two friends arrived to come hotel room, was alone
37:00
Speaker 3: in a bathroom with a bottle of champagne. Kennedy says,
37:03
Speaker 3: Combs had a j Lo music video playing in a
37:06
Speaker 3: loop on the TV while he talked on the phone
37:08
Speaker 3: with his then girlfriend.
37:09
Speaker 1: Chris mcdunna joining me, former homicide and vice cop. Again,
37:14
Speaker 1: the arrogance of inviting somebody over and then you pop
37:17
Speaker 1: out in nothing but a bathroom and a bottle of champagne.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you can't make this stuff up. But
37:22
Speaker 9: let's remember he is a very dangerous individual in terms
37:27
Speaker 9: of as a hunter. His whole persona is is to
37:33
Speaker 9: lure that victim men. And this is an obvious situation
37:38
Speaker 9: here where he gives these two women to come to
37:41
Speaker 9: his apartment or his hotel room, whatever it was. There,
37:45
Speaker 9: He's already prepared, and that's what a hunter does. He's
37:49
Speaker 9: already staked out, you know, the where he's going to
37:51
Speaker 9: do the hunting. He's already got it figured out, you know,
37:54
Speaker 9: if he's gonna you know, how he's going to execute,
37:58
Speaker 9: you know, the the event that evening. He is a
38:02
Speaker 9: very dangerous individual.
38:04
Speaker 1: The grand jury is meeting now are they hearing these
38:09
Speaker 1: other alleged victims? And remember, Sean Comes is innocent until
38:14
Speaker 1: proven guilty in a court of law. All of this
38:16
Speaker 1: is just allegations that said the longtime manager of superstar
38:22
Speaker 1: John Legend has now been added to the alleged victim
38:26
Speaker 1: list listen.
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Speaker 3: John Legend's longtime manager, tys To Gloria has wrote about
38:29
Speaker 3: her terrifying experience at a ditty party. In an op
38:32
Speaker 3: ed for The New York Times. Sir Cloria says she
38:34
Speaker 3: was a recent college graduate when she snuck into a
38:36
Speaker 3: Saint Bart's got party with her brother Stacloria's belief she
38:40
Speaker 3: was following a man to a disco room, but wound
38:42
Speaker 3: up locked in a bedroom with him alone. Sir Cloria's
38:44
Speaker 3: managed to convince the man her brother would be looking for,
38:47
Speaker 3: but to this day she wonders how much worse that
38:49
Speaker 3: situation could have been.
38:51
Speaker 1: As the grand jury continues to meet and what I
38:55
Speaker 1: believe gathering testimony for a superseding felony indictment against Shawn Combs,
39:02
Speaker 1: he is concerned about his grilled cheese birthday sandwich. Let's
39:08
Speaker 1: stop and remember an American hero. Police officer Cody James
39:12
Speaker 1: Brotherson West Valley CITYPD, Utah struck and killed in the
39:17
Speaker 1: line of duty just twenty five, survived by grieving fiancee
39:22
Speaker 1: Jessica and their fur baby, Bolo, American hero police officer
39:28
Speaker 1: Cody James brotherson Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,