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Jim Bowden torches Acuña trade rumors, O’s moves, Salary cap debate · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: They got the thirty seventh pick in this year's draft
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  Speaker 1: from Tampa Bay to get pick thirty seven for Brian Baker.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Lias did a good job today. I thought.
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  Speaker 2: Time for money moves presented by Truest Bank. Let's bring
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  Speaker 2: on Jim Bowden. We're going to talk a little cash,
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  Speaker 2: little trades, the whole deal right now with JB. Are
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  Speaker 2: a front office insider, JB.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see you. I do want to throw you tweet.
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  Speaker 2: I want to throw this tweet up there for you, JB,
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  Speaker 2: because I get the notifications. Of course, when you throw
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  Speaker 2: something out there and I'm like, WHOA, WHOA, where's this
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  Speaker 2: coming from? So you wrote yesterday. Just to be clear,
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  Speaker 2: the Braves have no interest or plans to trade Ronald
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  Speaker 2: Kunya Junior, nor will they even consider offers for him,
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  Speaker 2: according to multiple gms who have inquired after some various
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  Speaker 2: media reports. So just to take the second portion of
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  Speaker 2: that tweet, JB, there have been phone calls where GM
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  Speaker 2: actually he's going to figure out a way to talk
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  Speaker 2: alex Anthopolis into a trade this season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think when you have some respected media members come
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  Speaker 1: out and they go on MLB Network TV and they
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  Speaker 1: say there's a possibility a Cooni gets moved. I think
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  Speaker 1: some people watch that listen to it and go, we
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  Speaker 1: better make sure we check our homework to make sure.
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  Speaker 1: But just as clear as could be, and I've confirmed
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  Speaker 1: this with the Atlanta Braves too, there's zero chance that
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  Speaker 1: they trade Rondacunya junior or even converse about the trades.
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  Speaker 1: And so I just want to put it to bed
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  Speaker 1: because there seemed to be some momentum on that because
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  Speaker 1: of some media reports, and I just wanted to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that we snuffed it out as quick as possible.
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  Speaker 4: If they traded Ronald d'acunya junior this season, there might
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  Speaker 4: they might burn the battery down, Like what was the
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  Speaker 4: when was it the Civil War when they burned Atlanta?
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  Speaker 4: Whoever that was, it burned down Atlanta, right, Like that
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  Speaker 4: would be what would happen to the battery? The fans
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  Speaker 4: would go crazy. There's no, he's not such a team
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  Speaker 4: friendly deal. What He's the one guy in the lineup,
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  Speaker 4: him and Nelson that are hitting. Why would you get
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  Speaker 4: rid of him?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how would why would you ever? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean like me trading Barry Larkin back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: You don't trade Roma Coon Junior stend him. That's what.
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  Speaker 3: You did.
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  Speaker 4: Trade Griffy.
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  Speaker 1: I traded Griffy. No, I traded for Griffy agents. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't there. Yeah, I didn't trade k Griffy Junior.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I just don't see any reason why you
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  Speaker 4: would ever trade Acune at all. I mean, he's such
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  Speaker 4: a team friendly deal and he doesn't when he's healthy.
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  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. Like the fact that whoever brought this up,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna mention no names, they're crazy because this ain't hapen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, That's why I wanted to put it to bed.
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  Speaker 2: Well JB, let's continue while we're on Atlanta. They are
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  Speaker 2: looking very likely to be not involved in the playoff
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  Speaker 2: race this year. The tricky part with them is that
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  Speaker 2: most of these guys are on long term deals, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's why people are making things up, trying to
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  Speaker 2: come up with franchise players that are signed up for
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  Speaker 2: still a while and seeing if there will be offers
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  Speaker 2: for them. Are they going to be one of the
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  Speaker 2: most boring sellers at the trade deadline? It's like maybe
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  Speaker 2: they try and get someone to take on Azuna if
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  Speaker 2: he's feeling okay, what is it the shoulder that's been
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  Speaker 2: bothering him or the hit the hip?
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  Speaker 1: It's the hip. Yeah. So right now we have eight
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  Speaker 1: teams that are selling as of this minute at the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta is one of them. With Washington, Miami, Pittsburgh, Colorado, Baltimore,
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  Speaker 1: the White Sox, and the Athletics, they're the only eight
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  Speaker 1: teams right now that aren't within reach that will listen
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  Speaker 1: to certain players. Now with Atlanta, they're not going to
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  Speaker 1: do a rebuild. They're not even going to do a reboot.
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  Speaker 1: But that being said, you mentioned Marcelo Zuna with the hip,
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  Speaker 1: still has some power. We still have some teams that
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  Speaker 1: need a little bit of offense to their lineup, and
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  Speaker 1: I think there's no doubt that if Alex has the
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  Speaker 1: right deal for Ozuna, he will move on from him.
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  Speaker 1: I've also heard that there's a couple of teams, in
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  Speaker 1: particular San Diego and Tampa Bay that would like to
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  Speaker 1: pry Sean Murphy from them, knowing they have Drake Baldwin
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  Speaker 1: as their long term catcher there. So I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a possibility that they could go. But if Atlanta does anything,
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  Speaker 1: it will probably Ozona Murphy or something small. But all
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  Speaker 1: the rumors about Akunya and Albe's and Riley and some
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  Speaker 1: of these other bizarre Chris Sale name I've heard as well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not getting that impression from the Atlanta Braves at all.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's small tweaking at the very most
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  Speaker 1: of the deadline for Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I have to ask, this is a former GM
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  Speaker 4: and a former person that was in charge of a team,
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  Speaker 4: what would you do with Michael Harris? What do you
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  Speaker 4: do with Michael Harris? Because he's still played a goal
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  Speaker 4: goo center field, but right now, if you look at
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  Speaker 4: his numbers, he's the worst hitter in the Major leagues
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  Speaker 4: over the last two months. What do you do with
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  Speaker 4: a Michael Harris if you're the Braves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the first thing I would do is
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  Speaker 1: try to see how we can reach him and try
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  Speaker 1: to get the potential out of him. If I felt
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  Speaker 1: like my hitting room didn't feel that there was a
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  Speaker 1: pathway for that, if my hitting room felt like there's
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  Speaker 1: not adjustments that could be made to make this work,
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  Speaker 1: then I would call Dana Brown, who is the one
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  Speaker 1: that drafted him with Atlanta, who's the GM down there
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  Speaker 1: in Houston, and I would see if there was a
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  Speaker 1: deal where he would have interest in getting him. He's
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  Speaker 1: always been his biggest supporter, and I would see what
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  Speaker 1: kind of value I could get, and I would check
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  Speaker 1: the marketplace. But I think my first priority would be
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  Speaker 1: talk to as many hitting people as I possibly could
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  Speaker 1: and see if anyone had ideas or solutions to try
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  Speaker 1: to get him back on track. Because I I was
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  Speaker 1: in Dana Brown's camp on Michael Harris. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was going to hit. I thought he used the whole field.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he would make adjustments, and for three years
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  Speaker 1: we haven't seen that. So I guess my answer to
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  Speaker 1: you is one, I would try to fix him. Number Two,
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  Speaker 1: I would see what the marketplace says for him, and
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  Speaker 1: if not, I'm still okay with the elite centerfielder hitting
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of my lineup.
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  Speaker 3: You had mentioned Sean Murphy. How hard is it for
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  Speaker 3: a GM at this time of year to trade for
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  Speaker 3: a starting catcher? And I know teams are going with
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  Speaker 3: that like two catcher split kind of thing, but there's
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  Speaker 3: Sean Murphy's not getting traded unless he's a starting catcher.
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  Speaker 3: Unless I'm completely wrong, How hard is it? Because you
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  Speaker 3: rarely see it, and you're adding a guy to a
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  Speaker 3: playoff team that needs their pitching staff to do well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it really depends on the team.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the two teams I just mentioned that are
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  Speaker 1: looking for catching, the Padres and the Rays. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he would be a significant pickup I think for either
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  Speaker 1: team in handling their pitching and be a plus on
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  Speaker 1: both of those teams. Obviously, if you're going to trade
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  Speaker 1: for a thirty year old, experienced catcher with a track record,
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  Speaker 1: he as the prospect price to get him, You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to overpay to do it. And Atlanta is not
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  Speaker 1: in a position where they have to move him because
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  Speaker 1: if they end up trading Marcelo Zuna, they can use
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  Speaker 1: Murphy and Baldwin, one at catcher and one at D eight,
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like they don't have a perfect spot there.
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  Speaker 1: And if they have an injury, you know, they're kind
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  Speaker 1: of protected there. So they have to really win a
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  Speaker 1: trade to do that. But in terms of a contending
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  Speaker 1: team getting a catcher mid season, it has happened before,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it really depends on the catcher, and
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  Speaker 1: it depends on what you have right now, and It's
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  Speaker 1: nothing against Danny Jansen or Martin Maldonado, but Murphy would
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  Speaker 3: Can we classify the Orioles trade deadline as a fire
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  Speaker 3: sale or is it gonna be kinda meh? And what
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  Speaker 3: are they? What is what is the most intriguing pieces
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  Speaker 3: that they're pushing out there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think it's If I had to guess,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's Matt, which is really disappointing. But
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  Speaker 1: I think the president and GM Michael aas his job
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  Speaker 1: is on the line, I think he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: really careful now. He's going to concentrate on adding pitching.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he wants to do. He's not going to
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  Speaker 1: break this team down. When you see the rumors about
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  Speaker 1: Adley Rutchman's names, it's like Ronda Coune Jr. He's not
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  Speaker 1: talking about Adley Rutchman. Even though Sambasaiyo is coming. His
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  Speaker 1: plan is for both of them want one to catch
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  Speaker 1: and the other dh or play first base. So that's
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  Speaker 1: not happening. What I'm hearing with the Orioles is they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be concerned more about the players that are
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  Speaker 1: free agents at the end of the year. So Ryan
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  Speaker 1: O'Hearn a good bat that some teams need, Contending teams need,
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  Speaker 1: Cedric Mullins a center fielder. Cup Relievers like Greg Risoto
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  Speaker 1: and Anthony Deminguez are all free agents. Some of them
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  Speaker 1: needs a right hand a bat. If they have interested
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  Speaker 1: in Ramon Loreano Charlie Morton, who is a free agent,
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  Speaker 1: I might retire after this season. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be that group of six players that are moved. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be the sexy Felix Bautista. If
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  Speaker 1: Zach Efflin gets healthy, it could be him because he's
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  Speaker 1: a free agent. But I don't get the impression that
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  Speaker 1: the Oils are ready to wheel and deal and make
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  Speaker 1: that kind of impact. Although I will say this, they
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  Speaker 1: made one small deal today and I really like the
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  Speaker 1: deal for that. Even though Brian Baker is a really
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  Speaker 1: good middle reliever. If it was ninety six ninety seven
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  Speaker 1: with that ridiculously good change up that he's got, and
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna help Tampa. They got the thirty seventh pick
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  Speaker 1: in this year's draft from Tampa Bay. Just think about
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  Speaker 1: two years ago Beggars did with a thirty seventh pick.
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  Speaker 1: They got shortstopped Kevin McGonagall, who will be in the
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  Speaker 1: futures game, is hitting like three point fifty and has
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  Speaker 1: a chance to win a batting title someday. And that
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  Speaker 1: was pick thirty seven. So to get pick thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: for Brian Baker, Michael Las did a good job today, I.
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  Speaker 2: Thought, yeah, I want to dive into that. So bring
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  Speaker 2: us all on for a sec because this is something
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  Speaker 2: that we have heavily criticized the Orioles for, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: with you, JB.
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  Speaker 1: Good trade, But does.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone love a good pick and a prospect quite like
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  Speaker 2: Michael Las. We've been hyping that up for years and
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  Speaker 2: it's like, dude, I mean, this guy's got three years
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  Speaker 2: left of control. Clearly in my mind, JB. They're looking
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  Speaker 2: at the indicators and whatever they have behind the scenes
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  Speaker 2: and saying, this is probably a peak Brian Baker, So
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  Speaker 2: let's trade him right now. Because you know, if we
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  Speaker 2: thought he was going to be the next high leverage
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  Speaker 2: superstar in our bullpen, we would hold on to him
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  Speaker 2: because you would think that they're competing next year, So
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I mean, they got themselves in basically
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  Speaker 2: an end of first round pick. But I'm like, what's
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  Speaker 2: the direction here. That's just getting a nice return for
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  Speaker 2: now for teams that need bullpen pieces. Aren't they competing
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if they compete in twenty six. Let's see
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  Speaker 1: what they do in the offseason. Let's see if they
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  Speaker 1: go get some starting pitching in the offseason and can
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  Speaker 1: get a more competitive pitching staf. But I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: you're Michael liias you just mention it, what's his strength?
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  Speaker 1: His biggest strength, whether he was in Houston or in
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore is the amateur draft. That's what he does extremely well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he hasn't proven what he can do in
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  Speaker 1: building a major league roster, but he has proven that
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  Speaker 1: he can pick the right guys. And a pick thirty
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  Speaker 1: seven for a setup reliever that's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: a closer and really isn't an eighth or ninth inning guy.
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  Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense when you're about to
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  Speaker 1: go in the draft, and when you look at this
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  Speaker 1: draft right now, there's fifty good names you can hit
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  Speaker 1: big with second, we've seen cy young Award winners come
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  Speaker 1: out of the second round right at this range of picks,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I kind of think it's a no
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  Speaker 1: brainer whether he was buying or selling. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a no brainer for Tampa. It tells you that they're
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  Speaker 1: all in right now. They know they can make the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs at the very least as a wild card team,
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  Speaker 1: and they're trying to get that those extra pieces as
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  Speaker 1: this team is being sold. So it's very interesting that
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  Speaker 1: Eric Neander would push those chips in for a reliever.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised, Jim, where do you draw
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  Speaker 1: the line?
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  Speaker 4: Though? You mentioned Elias as great at the draft, but
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  Speaker 4: has he developed guys great? I mean, you know Adley,
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  Speaker 4: I mean Jackson, Holliday, Gunner. Yes, they're all in the
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  Speaker 4: big league some of them, but they're all kind of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, not as great. I don't think as we
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  Speaker 4: thought they would be, right, and they're pitching definitely hasn't
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  Speaker 4: developed the way we thought.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the.
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  Speaker 4: Fine line as a GM or president of baseball up?
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  Speaker 4: So being great at the draft or being a great
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  Speaker 4: talent development or being a great at putting a team together?
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  Speaker 4: Is there different strengths that every GM has, and then
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  Speaker 4: do you hire people to help you with the other
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  Speaker 4: things that you might not be as great at.
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  Speaker 1: AJ You're one hundred percent right, That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: We know Mike Elias's straints. He doesn't have to know
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  Speaker 1: and do everything, but he has to make sure he
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  Speaker 1: hires the right people under him to do the things
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  Speaker 1: that he's not capable of doing. You look at any
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame general manager, John Schulz and Pat Gillick,
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  Speaker 1: theo Epstein who will eventually be a Hall of Famer,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sabian. You know, let's just pick those four guys,
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  Speaker 1: because they all won world championships and they're all superstars.
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  Speaker 1: And what they did they surrounded themselves with the best
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  Speaker 1: people to get that done. I mean, the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the Orioles have failed in developing players at both the
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  Speaker 1: minor league and major league level, that has to do
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  Speaker 1: with the people that Michael Olias and the Oriols have hired.
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  Speaker 1: That's on them. You know, when they made that managerial
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  Speaker 1: change earlier in the season with Brandon Hyde, I thought
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  Speaker 1: they were going to go outside the organization and bring
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  Speaker 1: in some experience successful managers and coaches that would help
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  Speaker 1: get this group better, and that's not what they did.
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  Speaker 1: They just promoted from within, so there really wasn't much
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  Speaker 1: of a change. And to your point, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: guys asked about Michael Harris earlier. You know, Adleie Rutchman
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  Speaker 1: should be a star. He should be developing at a
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  Speaker 1: better rate. We are seeing progress with Jackson holiday this year.
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  Speaker 1: We got to give them credit for him as well.
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  Speaker 1: But you know is cursed at being developed properly? Is Kowser?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just I question whether or not they've
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  Speaker 1: hired the right people to maximize the picks that they made,
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  Speaker 1: and the results have answered that as no.
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  Speaker 3: Last time he came on, you just landed from the
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  Speaker 3: plane and you hadn't read what Rob Manford had come
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  Speaker 3: out and said, what do you think of the comments
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  Speaker 3: that he had from I think it was about last
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  Speaker 3: week or a week and a half ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't look in his particular
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  Speaker 1: position as the Commissioner of Baseball. He's listening to all
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  Speaker 1: the small and middle market owners that are complaining that
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  Speaker 1: the Marlins spend eighty million a year and the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: spend four hundred million a year, and how are we
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  Speaker 1: supposed to compete when they're putting down three hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty million more year than us, And they're right. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that the commissioner looks at the NBA and
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  Speaker 1: the NHL and the NFL, they all have a salary cap.
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  Speaker 1: And I think he looks at Major League Baseball and
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  Speaker 1: it would be great for Major League Baseball and for
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  Speaker 1: him and for the thirty teams, or not thirty, but
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  Speaker 1: most of them, if there was a way that you
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  Speaker 1: could have teams, you know, in the same range.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: That being said, if you're in the Union, why would
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  Speaker 1: you want a salary cap? Why do I want to
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: stop how much the Dodgers and Mets are going to spend,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: you know? And I think that to me, again, this
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: is my own personal opinion, is I've always believed that
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: the television revenue should be equally shared with all thirty teams,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: because even if you're in a big market and you
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: have your own network, you still are televising against the
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Marlins and the Pittsburgh Pirates and the Athletics. It's the
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: same game. One team gets paid a lot more money
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: for that television game than the other does, but it's
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: still both sides are playing in the game. I'd like
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: to see those revenue shared, and I'd like to see
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: a salary floor. If you're going to have revenue sharing,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: then your major league payroll has to be Let's just
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: say it's one fifty and then you know. In terms
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: of a cap, I don't like the hard cap because
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I want the owners. If Steve Cohen wants to overpay
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Soto seven hundred and sixty five million, I don't want
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: to stop one Soto from getting paid on the open market.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: But I want a penalty. Let's just say you had
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: a soft cap at three point fifty, and you can
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: spend whatever you want, but anything over three point fifty
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: you're gonna pay one hundred percent tax, and it's gonna
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: be split between the twenty nine teams, not just the
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: low market teams, but the other twenty nine teams. You're
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: gonna pay one hundred percent tax. There's a way of
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: doing it that works. Bottom line is how much revenue
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: are the players gonna get. Are they getting fifty percent,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: are they getting forty eight percent? Are they getting sixty percent?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: That needs to be negotiated, But I do think we
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: need to get a better system and I think both
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: sides need to work together to do that. I don't
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: like the fact that there's a lot of people taking
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: sides behind people's backs. I'd rather have everyone do it
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: right up front, have the players just as involved as
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: the owners to try to find a solution that everybody likes.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I also think the minimum salary should be one million
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: dollars for every single player. If you get to the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: big leagues and you're that good, you're in them, salary
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: today should be a million dollars.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Well, it's pretty close, Jim, it's pretty close. But there's
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: a couple of things in what you said. One salary
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: cap in the other leagues doesn't necessarily work because you
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: look at certain teams, and if you're taking the union side,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: you know, the basketball players have to give money back
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: in hockey because they're guaranteed contracts are in escro right,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: they're not. They're not fully guaranteed. It depends on revenues
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: and this and that. And then the other thing you
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: said about you know what's it supposed to be, you know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: the revenue sharing fifty to fifty. Well leagues you're trying that,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: like the NFL, and then they have lockouts because they say, oh, well,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: we're not really getting fifty percent, We're only getting forty
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: eight percent. And it's it fluctuates and this and that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: So I get both sides of it. I do, But
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: to me, there is no perfect system. And for baseball,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: if owners who just spend because they have money, it
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: would work. But they don't want to spend because they're
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: like the Pittsburgh Pirates use it. We use them as
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: example all the time. But here's the thing. Bob Nutting
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: gets a check every year for like seventy five million dollars.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: He puts that right in his pocket and says, Oh,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: I'm using it to develop a city and this, and
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I'm doing this in the minor leagues, nobody ever sees
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: those real gains for the I guess some players do,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: but you don't see gains in the big league. It
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: has to go there should be somewhere. It has to
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: go to the big league team in payroll. But again
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: then they're gonna want to cap. So there's just too
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: much to break down here.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Aja, but I do think that. I mean, again,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: this is just my own personal opinion. I do believe
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: we need to get a floor, and I do believe
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: if you're getting revenue sharing, it shouldn't go into your operation.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: It should go into the major league payroll on the
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: major league team. That that is my belief. And then
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: if you knew you had to spend one hundred and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: fifty million on payroll, then there's gonna be some you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: players that are gonna get paid more just because the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: teams at the bottom have to spend their money, and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that's gonna help a bigger group instead of just the stars.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: So I never believe that we should do the revenue
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: sharing that we do without that money going to the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: big league pairl I understand the argument of hey, I'd
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: rather spend money and development and scouting if on the Marlins.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I get that argument. Right now, they're trying to rebuild
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the technology, the analytics, the science, they're trying to copy
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the raise and by the way, Peter Pendex is doing
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: a good job of doing that right and I get
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: why he wants to invest it there. But if you're
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: going to ask the teams to share, the fans want
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: to see the major league product. That's what they want.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And it's great to say, well, yeah, but four years
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: from now, these guys will get there. But still, I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: just think it's unfair to have that much money being
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: shared and then a team not spending it, like Pittsburgh,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: like Miami. I don't think that's good for the game.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Totally on the same page with you, JB.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: And what I feel like happens sometimes is that teams
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: are becoming more and more like a real estate deal.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Which is fine.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: That's a way for them to make money around the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: ballpark and even with the facilities they have. So it's like, cool,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I got revenue, sharre I won to spend ten million
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: of that this year on boosting certain facilities. What does
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that do that improves the franchise valuation of your team?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: You can also win a World Series and improve the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: franchise valuation of your team. I just think there are
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: some owners that are so short sighted that they're like,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I know this is a lock. I might not win,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: but I know this is a lock. This is going
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to help my cause. Here's my question for you, because
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: we seem to be on the same page.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: With most of this.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: The big push from rod Manford is trying to crack
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the union and say, hey, guys, you've cost yourselves billions
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: of dollars. I keep pushing the percentage up of how
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: much money I'm taking from the pot. So you should
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: listen to me now, and let's do a salary cap
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and this will solve all of the problems. We have
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: a soft salary cap, the union can say whatever they
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: want about it. There is significant penalties for teams that
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: spend over a certain amount of money on the fairness scale.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: We don't have that right now. On the other side, so, hey,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. Revenue sharing money has to be
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: spent on player payroll, period player payroll. That's a huge
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: part of the problem that's been going on. I think
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: everybody can agree on that. But number two, another way
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: to force that is why do we have this soft
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: but not this on the bottom like that? Why do
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: we not have a certain line that says, hey, fifty
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: mill and if you don't, it's not like the all
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: all end all, but you get punished for that, you
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: lose picks or you know, we can come up with
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a variety of ways that teams get in trouble for that,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: or they have to give money back, stuff like that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I know it's never going to happen, and this is
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: part of the whole problem of the sport. But I
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: think the main issue that people are having in baseball
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: is that the bottom feeders or the low revenue teams
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: are pocketing the money and they're not spending it, and
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: we're not forcing them to do it, and the owners
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: are never going to agree to anything like that unless
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: we go the other way and.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Start to punish the big market teams. Yeah, I'm just
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: going to verbally repost everything you just said. I agree
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: with absolutely everything you just said, and I also just
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: want to add the fact that, you know, labor negotiations
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: are serious things, and you have to give Commissioner Rob
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Manford and the team's a lot of credit because the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: players dominated when Donald Fear was there, and years after him,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: players dominated that and did a really good job. The
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: last three labor agreements it went the other way and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the clubs have been kind of dominating there, and I
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: think we all need to take a deep breath and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: kind of look at it and say, shouldn't we be
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: doing a deal that's best for everybody, for the clubs,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: for the players, for the cities, for the teams, and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: try to balance it out if we really care about
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the game. That's where our concentration has to be. We
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: have a huge problem when you're sitting there for the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: last ten years and the fifteen teams with the smallest
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: markets in baseball have never won a World Series ten years.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: That's where we That's what we're going on right now.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean, you know, they aren't wildcard teams. That
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean market twelve to fourteen can't win, But we
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: haven't had a World Championship in that bottom fifteen. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to me, we can argue expanded playoffs has help and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: if you get in, you can run the table. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: agree with it. We saw it two years ago when
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the Rangers beat Arizona. I love it. That being said,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: we still have to do something to address the teams
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: at the bottom. We have to find a way to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: bring their payrolls up.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Fair.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I agree. I agree with everything he said. Now, Jim,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: before let you go, it's got to be quick. Everyone
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: online and a check is commenting about your sweatshirt. I
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: dig it, Leuis Vuitton. It's cool. But what I really
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: want to know is what's under that bedspread over your shoulder,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: because is there like a board of like all these
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: chess moves that you have for every team that you
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: have covered up or is there a body underneath there?
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: What's underneath that bedspread next to you?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably my wife. I haven't really checked recently.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I've been kind of busy, you know, with the trade deadline.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: But probably under there, I guess. I don't know.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: She's gonna surprise you and say, hey, JP, I got
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: you some coffee for yeth segment of the week exactly.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I love it. Well, JB. This is really good stuff.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Obviously, we'll have you a little more during this month
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: so we can get really granular on some of these
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: trade ideas and the rumors that flow through.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Good talking to you. We'll catch up soon. Sounds good.
• 23:43
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• 24:35
  Speaker 2: All right, I've got two things. Number One, I love
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Jim Bowden. He's a great person. I've known him for
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a long time. He's a good friend. But also from
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: an information perspective, I was going back and forth in
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: the chat with everyone. Some insiders just go over news rumors,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the whole deal, right. Others come up with all kinds
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: of trade ideas. I used to do that with Dan
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: O Dowd when I worked at MLB all the time. Right,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: here's five trade ideas that I like. It's just their
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: fun think piece. A lot of people seem to have
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: issues saying like, oh, like that's not the right reporting
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: or whatever. It's not reporting. It's an idea, and so
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: someone even in the chat was like, well, he needs
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to differentiate that more. He literally says that at the
• 25:11
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• 25:13
  Speaker 2: from a GM. He does that too. He'll do like,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: here's what I'm hearing from GMS. But just wanted to
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: clarify that because I feel like that becomes a problem.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: They're like, he's off with this. I'm like, it's a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: fake trade. He's coming up with a fake trade. So anyway,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: on the other side, AJ, what did you think of
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: his answer? I mean, for me, obviously, I'm pleased. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: did a one minute ran and he agreed with everything.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: He thinks low market team should be punished and no
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: salary cap at the top.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Well, they're kind of doing that. Remember what happened to
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Oakland when they moved. They had to spend money. The
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Marlins need to spend money. There are teams, and I
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: agree with that part of it. But you're not getting
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: a floor without a cap, right, And if he keeps
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: saying we need a cap, we need a floor, well
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: there's the problem. There's the biggest problem you're going to
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: run into. I don't know what the solution is I
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: brought up an idea Scott yesterday that was floated to me,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: and you guys all shout it down, which is fine.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: It was just an idea, But I don't know what
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: the idea is. Yes, everyone wants it's easy for like
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Jim Bowden and me and you and Gout and crats
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: and everyone and everybody sees like we need to do
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: what's best for the game. Well here's the problem. Every
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: side wants to feel like they wont and yes, what's
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: best for the game. Every side thinks their ideas are
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: best for the game.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: So I don't know where this Yep, we got a
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: year and a half to talk about it.